I Bought a FAULTY Original XBOX Crystal | Can I FIX It?
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- Опубліковано 5 січ 2024
- I picked up this mint but FAULTY Crystal XBox on a recent trip to sunny Morecambe. It was sold to me as having a faulty disc drive. Other than that, I have no idea what's going on inside.
I really like the look of this thing, and would REALLY like to get it working. So let's give it a go!
Hope you enjoy!
Steve
PS. I'm not an expert in repairs at all. I do this for fun, and it may not be the best or safest way to go about repairing broken stuff. I'm pretty good at melting plastic though. Please don't copy me - I'm an idiot.
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Stupid Times Table
Yay, I forgot it was Wednesday
Don't give up. You'll get it!
The clock cap was probably fine but no harm in replacing it. Stez needs to check his for trace rot
We're with you, it was 27 for sure :P
If you see on capacitor the spot welding parts on side has a + and on other side a - sign
I suspect that the positive side would be the one that has the plus sign pressed into the leg, where the minus sign is on the negative side.
Yeah, that makes sense! Didn't see that 🫣
Glad you spotted that too! Thought I was imagining it 😂
I thought it was obvious too 😂 never mind ste, we all make mistakes
I spotted that as well, and remembered the reference in another video. Surprised that whatever website talked about the arrows didn't mention the + and - indentations on the legs.
Came here to say that. 😂
Anyone else love this channel vs other repair channels because it feels like you’re actually hanging out with him? Other channels do too much production and it just feels like you’re watching them….vs one on one hangout. So relaxing.
My Mate Vince
Ah its just class. He's a very likeable chap and very funny too.
Not repair, but Dawid does tech stuff has similar humor. great channel
FYI, the HeXEn disc is a tool for modded systems. HeXEn, in this case, stands for Heimdall's Xbox Engineering disc and it allows you to do a whole ton of stuff for modded systems, such as TSOP/modchip flashing, installing another dashboard, etc etc.
thank you kagura
I've watched this channel grow so fast in the last year... congrats Steve, you deserve it
Steve, the clock cap is only rated for 6 hours of power. So what you had just meant it was unplugged for more than 6 hours.
I'm no expert and couldn't do most of shit but just admit I thought shouldn't you plug it in, set it and see?
Is that seriously all it lasted, that's crazy.
My brothers Pokemon Blue with original battery is still somehow holding enough charge, mind you, our Gold & Silvers died, only discovered that in 2021 how much power do those timing crystals consume.
And no I'm not comparing batteries to Caps, I know they are night & day in terms of total energy, just thought it might've been a couple days.
Absolutely right - my crystal green one is the same.
The sound when adding the incorrect thermal paste, hilarious! I think TronicsFix will love it 😂
Lol Genius and had me in stitches also
The driver belts getting lose is a common problem on OG Xboxes. I had it on both of the consoles I worked on. I got a pack advertised as "Xbox360 driver belts" from China since I could not find any for the OG Xbox, but they worked great.
The clock capacitor only keeps the time for around 6 hours. It will still ask you to set the time after that, that's why many people don't even bother to put a new one in.
Don't think you need to put thermal paste around the CPU as well. That area doesn't seem to make contact with the heat sink.
Very common problem on 360s as well. Boiling them does help but I always have a pack of new ones on hand. And yeah they're interchangeable - they're all just 1" bands, if I've remembered the size right.
This is a 1.6 model which has a slightly different board layout and are MUCH less prone to the leaking clock capacitor, I modded my crystal 1.6 last year with a re-pro aladdin XT and a 1TB HDD. If anyone else wants to do this you need an 80 pin IDE for the IDE to SATA converter to work properly. I thought this was a pretty fun project and actually led me onto RGHing some xbox 360's that I rescued off of facebook marketplace.
The hint for the capacitor are the big + and - signs on the terminal welds. Also, never put thermal paste around the die, it'll just trap the heat in the thermal compound with nowhere for it to transfer.
Yeah I hope he sees this.
My favourite electronic repair channel. Love the comedy side of things.
Keep them coming Steve.
13:29 the indentations on the welded legs are also in the shape of +/- signs. Neat!
😂
Seeing you take apart an Xbox makes me feel more confident in getting into mine. I've been meaning to take care of the SUPER clock capacitor on mine before it can go BOOM!
It's actually nice and easy to take apart. Definitely worth dealing with that SUPERCAPACITOR before it explodes! 😁
If you have a 1.6 revision MoBo, you are good... Only the earlier revisions had bad clock capacitors.
They dont usually go boom on 1.6 consoles
unfortunately they still do, ive seen many 1.6'es that have started leaking out the legs. worth it to replace on 1.6'es now @@electrohacker
@@DForce26 I doubt mine is a 1.6 board based on its manufacture date. So I should get it out my closet and pop it open sooner rather than later.
Just love the video and how you present them, glad to see your improved since your first video, been catching up on your back catalogue. Thanks a bunch for the light relief, stupid or not well worth the watch.
There is something wildly satisfying about watching you clean and solder. I know little to nothing about working with circuit boards but find your videos to be informative and so relaxing! Thank you!!
Love this channel. I watched a lot of videos over Christmas break!
I just started getting into fixing these things and it's cool seeing you posting new videos about them.
Hahaa, you was just trolling us putting the thermal paste all around the die - loved it.
I love how you heated up the stickers first, and also that you tested the new battery thoroughly. Great job!
lol, that Super Cap had a plus + and a minus - constructed into the silver tab legs. For next time. luv your work. Daz xx
Yet again another AWESOME video!! Thank you.
You sure do make this repair stuff look fun!!
Man, you crack me up. I only found your vids a couple of days ago, but I love watching them, you're so funny and cool (and you fix stuff).
That is a great find for just 10 quid. Only a minor problem. Very clean and snazzy looking thing.
One thing to note… I have seen in some of your other videos as well, when you test capacitors, you do not let them test long enough. When testing capacitance on a multimeter, you have to give it some time to charge up. This goes the same for that component tester. Cheers!
Always a fan of your videos, keep up the great work!
Great to see you back. Looking forward to following progress.
I find it very satisfying when Steve manages to fix items that seem beyond repair great channel Ste cheers
Depending on how long it was disconnected from the power it will still ask you to reset the time. It's a cap, not a battery.
Saves the time for something like 6 hours or so. :)
Reacted to that too. As far as I remember, the clock lasts around 5-10 minutes max. It was a cheap way Microsoft did it. EDIT: Taking that back. According to the MS website: "up to about three hours after losing mains power"
@@AdBlock-User Even if Microsoft had used a rechargable battery for that you'd have to exchange it by now, because those batteries would be mostly dead.
Because of the way the clock circuit is made a battery would have lasted 10-20 minutes
@@MyRegardsToTheDodo You don't need a rechargeable battery. The CR2032 battery in my NES game from 1993 still keeps the save file alive.
Great find that, in such good condition too well done Steve great fix 😊
Some of the best entertainment on YT, great job Stez!
Excellent video. I love my original Xbox. If I ever go to England, I will endeavor to find one of these original clear models just for the case. Great job Steve. You covered everything... dusting, capacitor, drive cleaning and lubing and thermal paste. Now you just need to mod it. 😎
Love the seagull noises 🎉
as a fellow commenter said it dose feel like hanging out but also feels like a 90s tech show, just the calm voice and suttle giggle :) and the going in blind and being a little stumped here there is brilliant, feels like learning together :) you sir have a new subscriber! (Y)
My new fave channel, very entertaining and informative
Nice one you away make me laugh on here you put in a fun way on restoring things :-)
Great find and awesome fix!
what a steal, good find!! i still love this console, loads of modding potential as well.
thanks for the upload :) i enjoyed it.
many will say just leave the cap out, i have 6 xboxes and i also replaced the cap in all of them as well.
Was expecting a wrong answer, but genuinely nearly choked as sipping a can of Pepsi Max when answered 27 to 3 x 2!!! Stupid times table!!!
Best and most entertaining retro repair channel around by far, deserves all the success and more. Can't wait for next vid.
Brilliant vid, Ste. Keep up the great work 😂
That was a 1.6 console (the extra ram pads were removed), so the clock cap didn't need replacing (and it won't run without it). All you needed was to boil the band as those (as you saw) can settle into position.
Great buy for 10 pounds! Next up you need to either chip it, softmod it (recommend 007 Agent Under Fire), or TSOP flash it (a little more difficult on 1.6 boxes).
You can't TSOP flash a 1.6 - on these machines the boot ROM is combined with the PIC that controls power sequencing in a custom chip called "Xyclops"- if you want custom boot code you need to add a modchip on the LPC bus, but you need to fix the traces for the LPC data lines that MS removed first.
Loved the ending keep up the brilliant videos pal
Informative and entertaining, what more could one ask from a concole refurbishing video. Subbed.
I love the xbox classic. I have been in the modding scene of the x360 and the ogxbox for quite some time now and absolutely love the nostalgia this console gives me. Very nice one you got there. Enough written, now I have to watch the video. :D Greetings from germany.
NGL, this beat slaps. That bassline!? Buttery!
I love your content man i want to see more console fixing videos greetings from Bulgaria 🇧🇬
11:30 The thermal paste sound effects... I'm dying! 😂
Awesome job! I remember my first OG Xbox that I had softmodded, to run games and what not. (I Transferred movies / games to it via FTP...lol) The good old days.
Nicely done Steve!
If you look where the spot welds on the new clock capacitor are theres a plus and minus stamped into the metal
Love your channel always makes me laugh keep it up
The Crystal Classic! That beat though when ya start cleaning the disk drive!!! ✌️
You are one of the funniest tech repair or video game guys on UA-cam. First video I have watched and you got my Sub!
Funny, TronicsFix just uploaded an OG Xbox repair video yesterday. What a coincidence
I love the look of clear/translucent cases on electronics, I had the purple gameboy colour and I thought it looked awesome with the components on show.
It’s beautiful! And you know the door tap trick! Lol!
I’ve been watching for a long time now which gave me confidence und fixing stuff so I ordered my broken Xbox a week ago and am now just waiting on parts to fix. The only problem I have is the case which is completely busted lol
Steve you never fail to put a smile on my face
It was a pleasure. Great, entertaining, education!
For the capacitor. The negative side has a rectangular recess in the middle and for the positive a cross-shaped recess 😃 Love ur vids!
Just found and subbed! It's like My Mate Vince with good tunes :)
Waking up on sunday with a cup of coffee and a new video. Life is good. ☕️😊
yo step love your channel found it a month or 2 ago keep it up bro I might try this sh myself
This I think was prob my fav console, the amazing modding scene adding bigger HD, lights ect made this an amazing console . Still got my original clear xbox now , got 1tb sata drive in it full of emulators and xbox games
Why SATA?
@Okurka. as ages ago I got the sata adapter kit and new cable , think sata drives faster at accessing too.
Great video would still replace the belt though they are super cheap. As long as the drive opens it can be charged with a tweezer thats how i charged mine.
This makes me more confident to open up my own XBOX to fix the disc drive and replace the SUPERCAPACITOR!
This takes Me back. I remember the disc drive has to be specific to the board or u have to flash it.
Morecambe resident here love lees games
I still got mine, with the Xecutor 3 mod installed, all fully working!
Very nice, my king.
I wouldn't mind another video learning my times tables with you.
beautiful content! for your SuuuuUPER CAPACITORRRR polarity check look at point soldering shape, one side is minus shaped and the other has a PLUS shape, nice!!
Cheers dood. Appreciated 🤘🏻
If you look at the capacitor, it has a metal cut out + on one side and a - cut out in the metal on the other side, which I guess is how it has been labelled up in metal.
Nobody explains the whole thermal paste debacle better than you do man that was pretty funny.
Great video 👌
the crystal case looks nice
The fact that it was asking you to set the time doesn't mean the capacitor was bad - it only stores a charge for about 3 hours, so that's normal. Also you have a v1.6 motherboard there, which used caps thaf are less prone to failure. But of course replacing it with a newer, better one is never a bad thing!
And the rev 1.6 boards REQUIRE the capacitor to function. That would indicate to me that the cap was at least somewhat functional. Replacing it, as you said, is never a Bad Thing.
Awesome 👌 score there legend.
Nice job on the rap this week. Good one Steve!
I liked the stress that no one had been in it before as the label is intact, before using heat to remove the label so it stays intact.
I bought a new one of these in 2002, upgraded the HD and software, then swapped all to a crystal case with crystal controllers when I could get hold of a crystal case . Still works great even in 2024.
To remove stuck heat sink, a twist is better than a tug.
A wiggle even better.
OGX heatsinks are walled in by a frame, making a twist impossible. They also use a "sticky" paste, not quite true thermal epoxy, not quite thermal paste. You should only attempt removal of the heatsinks when they are hot, as once they are, the paste/epoxy becomes liquid and only a gentle tug is required to break contact.
Seen people rip off the caps and dies of the OGX CPUs and GPUs going ham on them when they're cold.
@@spottedtango looking at this video where the heat sinks are cleaned, they look perfectly smooth here. No frame.
@@UnCoolDad What's that black plastic the mounting clips attach to 8:54 ? That's what I'm talking about. The heatsinks are recessed in that frame and only allow very slight rotation before interfering. Good enough to give it a slight twist to see if the paste is liquid enough to pull on; but not enough to break contact.
@@spottedtango ah, I see what you mean now. I suppose if you can do a slight wiggle from side to side, it may help release too - with some heat. Will keep that in mind 👍🏻
I Love the Crsytal Case !
That beat from Matt Large - No bueno is fire!
You have a voice of an angel when spreading circuit heat paste 😇
I think Tronixfix should come visit the comment section :D
Another brill vid, thanks Ste!
I wonder, would it be possible, and even worth, using a flat battery holder thingy instead of a super cap for the clock?
It's really not useful - the problem is that the RTC is embedded into the MCPX chip, and that's built using a process technology that has high speed, but also significant leakage. As a result, the current drain would kill a coin cell in a quite short period of time, which is presumably why MS went with the supercap approach in the first place.
@@TrimeshSZ Interesting mate, thanks for that. I've a lot to learn 🙃
Loved the Inception moment.
My disc tray did this on my console as a kid, a firm thump to the top when pressing the open button did the trick.
Exactly what i do on my Xbox. Now she needs a good softmod 😍
Amazing. The Disc Drive reads Discs. I hope you know how rare that is nowadays, especially for a Crystal Xbox.
You got yourself a real bargain there!
You spurred me on to get mine out of the attic and yes, it had leaked everywhere! 3 hours on and we're back in business 😁
Heatsink paste application, you should have used a Hitchcock movie scream clip. The CPU just needs about half a grain of rice worth on the die (small square raised silicon at the centre) - too much or some around the side is risky in that it can ooze out and can be conductive or capacitive.
The GPU - the X method is probably best and you don't need much at all. Draw the X from a few mm in from corner to corner.
Love the duke controller!
That was one sexy clean looking xbox! Must of been kept in a box/bag all this time and really looked after when it was working.
Hi Steve,I work on a lot of gaming consoles & the best method I found for removing hardened Microsoft thermal paste is to use a couple of sprays of THE WORKS Geocel Multi Use Cleaner.softens the paste up much better than alcohol & you can get it in 500ml aerosol form.
Lovin' the humour, and the 1980's style in repair soundtracks. But, let's face it, STUPID at the end of the day Steve.
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you can also see on the new capacitor that the metal tabs on each side also have a + and - stamped in the metal
I've had so many of these over the years I use to buy them DIRT cheap at carboots, the lowest was a fiver back in the day but it had a hard drive issue so wouldn't boot....Scoured the internet and found an absolute GEM and managed to backup the eeprom to write to a new bigger drive.
Nice buy, definitely better buy than the shower radio