dude I just started following you and now this video pops up! Dude someday you need to get them all in a room together at the same time (JP, Joscha Bach, Robert Kuhn, Chris Langan, Donald Hoffman) it would be so epic!! :D
JP needs to speak to that English man I can’t mention on UA-cam. You know the one who has been writing about all this happening 30 years ago. You know his name and it’s not Goliath it’s his adversary.
As a dishwasher of 6 years, it was nice for JP to acknowledge that it is extremely complex. In the restaurant business we are considered unskilled labor and get little respect for our contributions. So thanks JP, you made me smile this morning before I go in to do it again today.
Your comment caught my eye, because when JP said dishwashing was an extremely complex task, myself being in the computer and data communications field, the comment threw me into a thought experiment that made me realize, for instance, the massive amount of computing power required just to determine what is a dirty plate, and what is just the decorative pattern on the plate. That alone would require a massive bank of computers that have optic ability, robotics, and the programs coding would be damn near infinite. Bottom line is, kudos to all the dishwashers out there, thank you for your very complex abilities.
Just about anyone who does unskilled labour laughs at the managers, who for the life of them could NOT do our jobs. Not only that, we're the ones who make this world run!
I truly hate doing my own dishes, I'm very appreciative if I go out to eat that somebody is in a baking hot small back kitchen, getting wet, hot, on feet for hours And hours. Thanks for your service. In UK we don't tip.. not like USA... managers keep tips. I'd prefer to see the back staff, but they don't allow. Kudos to your hard work 👏
@@normanshadow1 A good manager is one that rises from workers, I meet some of them and they are truly one of the best, so your presumption is wrong. Also you presume what a manager job should be while you never being there so is equally true that you don't know. However a good manager is always good with people and his / her number one function is to manage people and if it lacks that, even if is a good worker and can take over your job in case of need, he is still a bad manager.
Am 21 years old and at times I don't even understand half of what you saying... But I still stay Infront of my screen and listen...just having the feeling that something's happening and I want to be there. Thank you very much for such podcasts
Curt has shown the ability to talk about many different subjects at a high level and honestly it's shocking how well he can understand and discuss, well, the theories of everything. He can easily keep up and even push back on professionals in almost every field. Dude deserves more recognition.
Very interesting cross disciplinary questioning/perspectives have allowed them to tease out subtle information on universal insights. Peterson loves breaking arguments down to specificities in the definitions of language.
@@liviamoraes2573 I personally interpreted his reticence in the beginning as him observing JP and his mannerisms, so that he would know when to interrupt and when to let him speak, which I observe he comes to excel at as the conversation progresses. I don't think I've ever seen an interviewee of JP's do that so well, they usually let Jordan talk all over them (as much as I love the man, he does tend to interrupt people too much and run off with his own ideas about things.) A very intelligent observer and thinker, in my opinion, Curt is.
I’m a centrist. No left no right. All I know is social media has rotted honest dialogue and reason. Information for the masses relies on media barons directing editorial prerogatives and AI algorithmic permutations. If Jordan keeps a modicum of balance that will be amazing. I’ll keep listening to him for now.
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT To me it’s not so much the centre that is being cancelled, but a nuanced view is. Or, in light of this conversation, people have a hard time dealing with complexity.
He has a very good point about the utility of the Left. They speak for the dispossessed when the hierarchies have become stagnant, corrupt, and tyrannical. It's (extreme) Leftist types (folks that can't rationally and reasonably be debated) that sabotage the reasonable, rational Left. He underscores that there is a psychological, temperamental, personality-based proclivity to be more left- or right- leaning. I was very much on the Left as a youth, now more center right, or center left, depending on the issue. He's a very eloquent thinker.
I do not see it being possible to be on the left and love Jordan Peterson. The philosophy that Jordan Peterson espouses is not at all genuine, wise, or compassionate from the point of view of the left. You can think Peterson is wise or you can be a leftist. One or the other. If you think you're both, then there's something you're not getting about at least one of them because they are not compatible.
@@Io-Io-Io but we can agree that lying to appease the lynch mob is wrong? Can we agree that a lynch mob that requires lies to avoid inflicting calamity upon others is inherently immoral?
The level of revelatory quality in this dialogue is unprecedented. It's truly an honor and a blessing to listen and absorb this. Thank you to both of you.
I just want to say thank you for changing my life. I've had a lot on my mind recently and I was a bit lost. I have a baby on the way and I'm just 20 years old and I believe I've found myself just listening to you and you've changed my perspective on things quite bit. I've decided to join the coast guard and my goal is to be a rescue swimmer and I've made that goal my purpose and to be able to provide in a immediate fashion and be the best father I can be I used to be quite scared and very unsure of myself and my future. I was afraid and constantly asking what if Im not going to be a good father for my child not anymore though I'm confident in my future and my own family's future now. All I can say is thank you for changing my life and changing millions of others lives. I'm not sure what kind of mental place I would be in without discovering you I'm eternally grateful I just hope you see this and realize what you have done for me and my future child.
This is the one time that I see Jordan genuinely challenged to think about things very deeply before he gives an answer and that is an accomplishment on itself Curt. Time flies when you're having fun, I think you two should do a follow up on this video soon, clearly you're not finished talking on this topic and you left me the mother of all cliffhangers and I really want to see this conversation go on a bit more. I learn so much from these conversations and I wish that I had someone in my life to talk about these kind of things at the level you two did in this video. Thank you so much for sharing this on UA-cam Jordan.
Ahhhh imagine being able to sit and have a conversation like this with someone man it would be beautiful. Too bad people like this are needles in the haystack
I listened to this wonderful conversation while I was on a long brisk walk with my dog today… My dog kept looking at me as if wondering if I was losing my mind… as I kept bursting out-loud with “Yes!”, “Exactly!”, and several “Oh man!”. In the 5+ years of listening to your lectures, discussions, debates and interviews, this felt like the most articulate conversation on many of the topics of greatest interest to this old guy. Thank you for what you have done, for what you are doing and for staying the difficult course. I hope you are as blessed as you have blessed me, really.
Isn't it strange how people can differ so greatly? I hate dogs. They give the shits. They cause panic attacks and stress. If I see a dog walker or hear a dog barking I'll often have a complete meltdown and I'll feel ill for hours after. Wearing noise cancelling phones 24/7 helps as does valium but I'm basically a prisoner in my own home... yet you choose to walk a dog? I don't understand the attraction of dogs?
I really enjoy how relatable and humble Curt is. When he was talking about his anxiety and not feeling well after the George Knapp and Colm Kelleher interview I knew exactly how he felt. Curt you're covering topics that MATTER to us right NOW. Whether it's UFOs, God, or the political divide, I appreciate all of the conversations you foster!!!
@@nathanaelmorales760 I don't. It's the George Knapp Colm Kelleher interview and it's the very end after all questions are done. He was giving us an update and roadmap for the future and he got very candid about his feelings and how he's doing. He even mentions the situation with Linda Moulton Howe and that he apologized to her about her interview.
God and consciousness are my two favorite subjects to discuss. I cant even explain how satisfying it is to listen to this conversation. I have spent most of my thinking on these topics. Thank you both.
@messenger ministries Sure buddy, the guy who is speaking against NWO orders and did a whole lecture on Genesis and explained how amazing Christianity is for humanity is surely a deceiver
Mr Peterson, your skill and integrity to reason through ideas is amazing to watch. I turn of most conversations around the world when I see emotion interfere with a theory. When I was a young man (50 now) I hated the world and especially authority and those doing well financially. In my young mind, I came up with a solution for my problem. I am a big man and very talented in the fighting arena around my circles, I was thinking one day that I am capable of taking by force anything I want, I wasn't worried about the Law. The one thing that stopped me and eventually changed me to the man I am today was that I believed in a power that was bigger then me and the world, not only was that power bigger then me, the consequences of any negative actions I do, will carry on for me past my time on this earth. I am a very gentle man these days and work with people with violent backgrounds and trauma in all areas. I am this way because i have changed for the bigger picture not what this world currently values. I have found many men from violent traumatic backgrounds, reason these very concepts as a definition of purpose in this world. Thankyou
It seems to me you have taken on a heavy load, just getting people to be willing sit down, and then to listen, and then to open up and talk, that is an almost insurmountable task, and I suspect an immense amount of frustration, but incredibly rewarding and fulfilling. Having been where they are now would have to be your biggest asset, which goes to show your biggest failings can turn out to become your greatest strength. You make me feel a bit envious, I'm 56 and yet to find a worthy path in life, I'm still searching through.
@@jasonlambert2226 Not sure if you were asking me? I'm going to answer anyway. I was christened a Roman Catholic, but at the age of five I was put on a bus in Booraloola Northern Territory by myself to Alice springs Northern Territory. When I went to church, I learnt many things, two of those things were, the massive statue of Jesus and thou shalt not bow down to a craven idol, I thought "that's hypocritical" yes, at 5. I have settled on something like on Star wars, after looking at the Annunaki and seeing what they done gene splicing us, yes they made us who we are, but I believe there is a universal deity that is way bigger than most people can conceive.
@@steveunderhill5935 Try reading a reliable national newspaper for reality and a doctor for delusions and paranoia, Jesus Freak. Like Duhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@steveunderhill5935 Just tell your medical doctor that you have delusions of invisible super-duper heroes and paranoia about invisible enemies and eternal hellfire. Just because law courts don't swallow this moose poo doesn't mean that you are a rube hustled by Christian hustlers, Cupcake. It might be aliens hustling you instead! I use Holy Water enemas myself and like to wear an altar boy costume and pout.
Curt did so well in this podcast - his thinking is very in the moment while also being concise enough to follow. He lays out big questions without rambling, which is hard to do!
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! Those who believe Jordan Peterson is hitler are the real hitler because they are threatened by what Dr Peterson stands for... The need to please everyone is the key to failure in everything... 🤗
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸 Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it..
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler ele esta sempre procurando se safar . que fechar os olhos para realidade . as mascaras deles ja cairam . comprovadamente . lá em Israel intende os fatos sabe bem como e um campo de concentração aquele e um povo vivido ja passaram por isso morreram muitos em 1943 hitler ate 1945 . foi o povo que mais morreram . em campos de concentração#
Better left unsaid is a very informative and balanced documentary , it has been heavily suppressed by big tech so the people that really need to see it will unfortunately , never see it.
@BROADKAST...AND THAT IS SO F*****D UP OF YOU TUBE. IT'S THE SAME THING THATS HAPPENED WITH THE MEDIA. IF THERE ARE NO DIFFERENT OPINIONS OFFERED, WHY BOTHER TO VISIT THIS ARENA.....
One of the more deeply fulfilling conversations I have had the pleasure of having access to in a long time. I love being a fly on the wall in these moments. Hopefully these two will meet up again soon and share it with us. What an amazing time we live in
@@martinkent333 all the negative comments on here share a common theme. All-knowing, bitterness, belittling and lame usage of sarcasm. It's almost guaranteed. Just scroll through and read others, bud. You sound like a miserable lot and don't sell your brand of thought very well.
Conversations like this articulate what many of us already know. I guess that's why it feels powerful and enlightening. It's awesome that we have the privilege to see and hear great minds talk.
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸 Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it.
*To all the dreamers out there, don't ever let the world's negativity disenchant you or your spirit. If you surround yourself with love and right people, ANYTHING is possible.* 🙏🖤
JP needs to speak to that English man I can’t mention on UA-cam. You know the one who has been writing about all this happening 30 years ago. You know his name and it’s not Goliath it’s his adversary.
Lovely. If we all sit in lotus and hum ‘Omm’, that will fix everything, right? I genuinely appreciate your intention and I don’t mean to be facetious, but I think we need a bolder, braver, morality just now for the sake of the future good.
❗ *6 GUIDELINES FOR LIFE:* *1) When you are alone, mind your thoughts.* *2) When you are with your friends, mind your tongue.* *3) When you are angry, mind your temper.* *4) When you are with a group, mind your behaviour.* *5) When you are in trouble, mind your emotions.* *6) When God starts blessing you, mind your ego.*
Jordan you give me a lot of hope for the human race. I am glad you are willing to stand up for truth. People try so hard to shut you down. And yet you keep standing strong. Thanks for spreading truth.
This is one of the best podcasts iv ever listened to. Maybe THE best (imo ofc). I will definitely be following this guest’s progression. Remarkably similar to Jordan Peterson in at very least his potential. And with differing perspectives too. Gives me hope during this time of intense hopelessness. Simply brilliant
Why does my heart shrink tears out of my eyes when two remarkable gentlemen salute eachother with such genuine respect at the end of an equally remarkable conversation. Thank you For this experience, I truly hope to see more conversations between these two great minds.
Yay! Two of my FAVORITE people together! 🤗 I didn't see this coming. I've been so distracted by world events. What a welcome surprise! I look forward to hearing this conversation. Thanks, guys! You are wonderful. 💔🙏🏽🕊️
I know what you mean about world distractions my friend, since there's so Many going on sadly.. Sometimes we All need to "Disconnect" from the world. But at least we have a nice, interesting conversation to listen to though. 👍 Godspeed to You n your's my Friend, since there's going to be Far worse time's coming among us All, n to mankind on our Beautiful planet. Since it's only the Beginning.. 😥
Okay, so I listened to this twice in a row. At no point during this conversation was I NOT experiencing an overall feeling of "...what is happening right now?!" This was inspired by the divine, as was the Gospel.
Well not a damn thing they talked about meets Sceintific Merit...Hell I'm not sure what the hell they were discussing..It's Psycho Babble.. Why you ask? Because the Affect can never be Greater then the Cause. That is an Axiom in the Scientific Method of Discovery..So to get Mind. The Universe needs the traits to Create Mind. Feelings, Emotions, Music, Art etc....You tell me the Universe can. I will laugh in your face so hard. As it's not Testable, Observable, Repeatable. Anywhere in the Universe. So these two are second rate. When it comes to Meta Physics. Higher Dimensions. The concept of an Outside Agency. God, Creator. It's above them... To quote Spock... How do you Feel? I don't understand the question.... Why you don't have to be religious. To spot people that live their lives under the rules of Situational Ethics. Which is dangerous. As long as I mean well. It's ethical and moral. Up too and including Murder. Why we have Laws, Standing Armies, Jails, Prisons, Police. etc...As they would kill us all and burn it all down.
@@WizzRacing @Up2NoGood honestly, if youre going to criticize these guys for being second rate and spouting psycho babble, you should probably articulate yourself a bit better while doing it. This argument is all over the place, im not even sure what your counter argument is here. Also, the random capitalizations dont help.
@@dylandecesare2652 Well let me make it easy for the Short Bus Riders. Can the Effect be Greater then the Cause? Does the Universe have the Traits to create Mind? What Mechanism Allows it? As you only have the Four Fundamental Forces in Nature. That cause an Action or Something to Move... If that is too hard to comprehend. No wonder you're confused. You been robbed of an Education. As Analytical Thinking is required to start with.. Maybe punch your teachers in the stomach. Then ask the Schools for a Refund. I will wait, while you fumble around for an answer...
@@WizzRacing ok, we get all of that, sorta. Because youre hardly articulating your claim. Still havent made clear what it is you are refuting. Still capitalizing letters at random. Maybe you should punch your English teacher because your grammar is second rate.
So glad to hear this being talked about. Ive followed you for a while Jordan, but its crazy because every time I have some obscure question about the way the world works, theres always an underlying despair because I realize most people dont even know how to ask certain questions in the first place. Simply bringing the questions to light and addressing them the best you can with other people is an enormous blessing! Thank you!
@@kaivogel253 Its funny you say that, because most of Jordan Petersons questions about topics often result in him asking what the topic even is in the first place. Which most people dont do. What exactly did he say that you think is "wrong?" I think he is exceptionally good at asking questions. Almost too good, because he is willing to sacrifice our current knowledge of something for something new. Which ironically, if I had to guess, is why people like you dont like him. You want a simple answer, and you cant comprehend why people who follow him would be okay with "not knowing." But please, tell me exactly what he said that you think is "wrong."
Still unbelievable this content is FREE. One of the greatest thinkers alive right now… imagine if Aristotle Plato or Socrates could have reached everyone on the globe during their time …
@@gsav1320 You never check Bible facts, cuz Christian brainwashing makes you a fabulous rube! If you ever did check Bible facts, you would find that Jesus Christ appeared when the Jews failed in their revolt against Rome in 70 CE. The Hebrews in Palestine created Jesus Christ aka Maccabbees ll. That way they could do business under a new name and feed their families and avoid massacres. The Apostle Paul was an excellent example of this. He was about to enter Damascus and saw that there was a Jewish massacre there. So he became an instant Christian. On the high ground between three continents, the ancient Hebrews created Moses and Jehovah in 950 BCE. Checking Bible facts helps you with law courts, and avoids delusions and paranoia. Kids, if you crave anal sex, just wink at a priest!
@@gsav1320 Looking for Scrupulosity suffers and on Easter Weekend, offering free Holy Water enemas. For a price, I can give them Kentucky Moonshine to mix in, so that they can SEE GOD........................................ On Good Friday 2033, the 2000th anniversary of Jesus Christ's happy crucifixion, the streets of Jerusalem are sold out - BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@martinkent333 it’s funny you would make an ambiguous comment like that instead of refuting any single point that was made in the entire video- but that simply reveals your intention of the comment and I will not be listening to you accordingly
@@martinkent333 So liking something makes it a cult... your reasoning is sound, I'll never listen to anything again unless it's something you prescribe that's based on the same things you like. BECAUSE you could never be co-opted into a decisive ideology. OR and hear me out you could just let people enjoy conversations without poo pooing on them because someone likes this persons content over your own. We have a pandemic and potential world war maybe, just maybe let people enjoy the things in life they enjoy.
@@jordanmizell4402 Archeologists and historians can't find any facts to back up the Holy Bible, but you have an opinion? The Jews created Moses and Jehovah in 950 BCE. 200,000 raped altar boys testify to your mighty God and his mighty angels' heavenly protection. The Book of Revelation took 300 years until it was recognized as a part of the Bible canon. When carbon-dating St Peter's chair, it was found to be a hoax. If you want to frolic in fantasyland with the other rubes be my guest, but if I see a comment that smacks of extreme silliness, I will appear to you..............
@@martinkent333 Once again all I said was I enjoy this conversation , Now you are having an argument with yourself and that's probably all the community you will get cause the rest of us have friends. Give it a rest and stop bringing up weird things I never talked about. I'm not Catholic I was barely religious but based on what you just said and based on what they said I'm for sure going to look into going to a church and finding some loving community as what you offer seems vile and detestable. good day sir.
Wooo it's nice to see young thinkers that will be there to carry the torch forward. Really get the feeling from both that it's less about finding answers but realizing we need to ask questions and challenge complacency.
I did not want it to end either, because I thought if I waited long enough, I might get to hear from the "guest" instead of merely Jordan, for 90% of the time. Maybe Curt thought the same.
Curt is a revelation. Precise, concise, sharp and is in the 'zone' with regards to questions revealing intellectual truths. Thanks gents for a rewarding conversation.
@@martinkent333 well itdepends on what do you mean by “personality cult”. What I meant was it seems I’ve been introduced to a well-read, intelligent person, who’s careful with his words while being admirably articulate.
Well done Curt! This conversation was like an almost never-ending crescendo, a symphonic cacophony, I could physically feel tension building up within me, and then there were a couple of sentences that were like an epiphany, which released all the tension and brought everything together. As an analogy, much like a techno dance track when you've had a couple of Garys and the bass finally drops. Equally similar, was that feeling then began to repeat itself, however, the earlier epiphany made the repetition less tense. Thank you gentlemen.
@@isabellachavez3555 We made it, Isabella! 😉 Curt is very easy to listen to and understand, I think the feelings you and I felt were a reflection of Jordan's energy.
I always hoped that Jordan would have a talk with Ken Wilber. I don't know how Ken's health is but it certainly would be a delight for me to listen these two giants of integral thinking converse.
I was really happy to see Curt mention Donald Hoffman, however briefly, because the discussion up until that point made me realise how compatible in many ways JP's views on perception (and its fundamental relationship with consciousness) could be with Hoffman's model, which left me hankering for Curt to mention him. I would really love to see a dialogue between JP and Hoffman, because I think there is a lot of shared ground, or intuition, between them. That said, I'm not entirely sure how fruitful it would be since they seem to be coming at similar problems from such radically different disciplines, with very different reasons for doing so. There may be overlap in thinking, and I think in some sense they are converging on similar underlying ideas, but when you start from such different places in such complex terrain, sometimes you fail to see how you're even exploring the same territory. In any case, fantastic talk. I always enjoy Curt's attentiveness, sprawling thoughts and humility (particularly his lack of hesitation to ask for further clarification). Great to see you two have a discussion.
Such an engaging conversation. 🙂 I much appreciated this conversation and can't wait to hear more from Mr Jaymungal. I rewound several times to grasp topics. Thank you for your time, wisdom, and knowledge. Blessings to you both.
Good luck on that one. The reason they don’t give a rats ass about us is obvious. Before you can give something you have to have it first… And who the xxx would want to have a rats ass?
The discussion around 50:00 is beyond fascinating: If our most fundamental mode of interaction with (perception of) the world is use/utilization, since the utilization have a very strong connotation of power, then at the very base of our reality is power ... this brings us full circle back to the issue of post-modernism and its corrosive effect on the modern civilizations (as outlined earlier in the talk).
Big fans of you both. That was one of the most enjoyable podcasts that I have heard. Excellent conversation. I hope there will be a part 2 at some stage.🖒
This is one of the best podcasts iv ever listened to. Maybe THE best (imo ofc). I will definitely be following this guest’s progression. Remarkably similar to Jordan Peterson in at very least his potential. And with differing perspectives too. Gives me hope during this time of intense hopelessness
I'd say, this is the first guest to really expand upon the JBP ethos. If there was ever someone who could come close to filling the shoes of JBP, Curt is it. Please consider having him on again!
Jordan Peterson, I've been praying for you for the past year, that God would reveal Himself to you as so much more than a concept - so much more than philosophy and symbolism. All of these are but shadows in our reflective existence, indicating the reality of Him Who lives outside the dimensions we are limited to in this life. All life, all goodness, and all personhood flows from Him. As such, He is more of an individual person than any human. I pray He reveals Himself to you, Jordan, as He longs for you to know Him... because He is the answer to every question and conundrum we wrestle with. There's such complete rest and peace, in His presence. I pray for you, Jordan. You are an incredible blessing to so many people! To receive His presence, it's required that we humble our human mind to receive as an experience a knowledge that we cannot explain with human words. For God to be God, His wisdom and personhood must be far more than the wiring of our brain circuits can handle. This can make a logically-oriented person pull back from experiencing Him. But there is no rest for the human soul until it finds its rest in God.
I love it.imagine if everyone had this knowledge and able to have discussions with intentions to learn and grow and educate so we can evolve in a way that really benifits us all
Man, that’s a deep, symbiotic, and exploratory conversation. Like, two free-style jazz musicians, jammin. And realizing that this conversation is just the tip of a much deeper and wider iceberg. Danm, makes me feel ill-equipped for further discovery. But, that doesn’t mean I won’t try; I still have a snorkel and goggles at least 😉
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸 Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it.
@Mitthenstein lol I was trying to end this. You win! Good job. Your very smart and don’t have your own bias😁. Think about it all I did was admire the convo. And you had to reply with a rant, lol. I made no statement saying he was right or wrong. You just assumed im a fan because i admired the conversation. Geez relax man
Dr Peterson you're such an amazing moral man. I love your discussions and ability to assess people behaviors. I agree with all you say. A gift to us all. African American Muslima 67yr.
@@martinkent333 So commenting how intelligent I found somebody who I'd seen for the 1st time makes me a dimwit? Iv just witnessed the majority of the World accept a problem and run for the solution without a second thought. For a flu, and amongst them some far more intelligent people than myself. I wasn't one of them was you? Don't presume u know me enough to call me that. I'm exploring a few people's opinions on certain things and some things , tho I don't profess fully understand some of the things I definitely got the points on the level I could understand it on. So sorry Proffessor Kent !!!!!
@@martinkent333 Brainwashed people vaccinate themselves and their children and still don't get the irony that after everything that's happened it's now be treated as a flu, but not until April 1st Boris said.!!!! Haha. FOOLS DAY. ( though he brought it forward the plain sight message remains.. They even believe they made the decision when they were clearly cohersed , first through fear then through the fear of losing jobs not being able to travel etc etc. Bet you was one of them as well. Got my back up you . Defense mechanism I think it's called Proffessor.
Watching these podcasts has caused a serious pattern of distracted driving for me. Not because I’m necessarily listening to them while I’m driving, but because they leave my mind wandering with so many thoughts, hypotheses, and burning questions about the abstract world, existential reality, and morality. Seriously, I’ve almost gotten into a lot of accidents because of this. Who would have thought that thinking would be a form of distracted driving?
Wow!!! Been waiting for this. I'm at work now but can't wait until this evening to watch this. I have so much respect and admiration for both of these gentleman!
The end of this talk brought to my mind “The One and the Many” by W. Norris Clarke, S.J. - a book about Thomistic metaphysical systems of thought. A worthy read and another example of how great minds can take each other to even greater heights. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Mr. Jaimungal for this most intriguing discussion!
Wow , I'm lost but still totally enthralled, imagine being that intelligent, I'm always sat daydreaming thinking now so imagine these guys deep in thought.
This is the way we should be learning in schools. Make those connections to obtain a better understanding of not only the subject you're studying but to relate to different fields and to gain new perspective. Perspective is D.E.I.
This was a wonderfully enjoyable conversation and I'm grateful for the opportunity to have participated in it. Thanks JP.
dude I just started following you and now this video pops up! Dude someday you need to get them all in a room together at the same time (JP, Joscha Bach, Robert Kuhn, Chris Langan, Donald Hoffman) it would be so epic!! :D
JP needs to speak to that English man I can’t mention on UA-cam. You know the one who has been writing about all this happening 30 years ago. You know his name and it’s not Goliath it’s his adversary.
Man you are hitting all the highs. Congrats.
Congratulations Curt, continue the great work!
@@splaz333 that's an astute observation
As a dishwasher of 6 years, it was nice for JP to acknowledge that it is extremely complex. In the restaurant business we are considered unskilled labor and get little respect for our contributions. So thanks JP, you made me smile this morning before I go in to do it again today.
Your comment caught my eye, because when JP said dishwashing was an extremely complex task, myself being in the computer and data communications field, the comment threw me into a thought experiment that made me realize, for instance, the massive amount of computing power required just to determine what is a dirty plate, and what is just the decorative pattern on the plate. That alone would require a massive bank of computers that have optic ability, robotics, and the programs coding would be damn near infinite. Bottom line is, kudos to all the dishwashers out there, thank you for your very complex abilities.
Just about anyone who does unskilled labour laughs at the managers, who for the life of them could NOT do our jobs. Not only that, we're the ones who make this world run!
I truly hate doing my own dishes, I'm very appreciative if I go out to eat that somebody is in a baking hot small back kitchen, getting wet, hot, on feet for hours And hours. Thanks for your service. In UK we don't tip.. not like USA... managers keep tips. I'd prefer to see the back staff, but they don't allow. Kudos to your hard work 👏
@@normanshadow1 A good manager is one that rises from workers, I meet some of them and they are truly one of the best, so your presumption is wrong. Also you presume what a manager job should be while you never being there so is equally true that you don't know. However a good manager is always good with people and his / her number one function is to manage people and if it lacks that, even if is a good worker and can take over your job in case of need, he is still a bad manager.
As a former dishwasher and currently still in the pits of food service - dishwashers are really what drive the industry.
Am 21 years old and at times I don't even understand half of what you saying... But I still stay Infront of my screen and listen...just having the feeling that something's happening and I want to be there. Thank you very much for such podcasts
Keep learning
Give it a couple years and you'll be able to unserstand
You understand more than you think you do.
Don’t forget your life and experiences that should be happening sans screen!
Good for you.
Curt has shown the ability to talk about many different subjects at a high level and honestly it's shocking how well he can understand and discuss, well, the theories of everything.
He can easily keep up and even push back on professionals in almost every field. Dude deserves more recognition.
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Very interesting cross disciplinary questioning/perspectives have allowed them to tease out subtle information on universal insights. Peterson loves breaking arguments down to specificities in the definitions of language.
@@steveunderhill5935 Checking Bible facts, helps us to be humans instead of zombies.
I don’t agree perse. I saw him struggling to add anything to the conversation in the beginning.
@@liviamoraes2573 I personally interpreted his reticence in the beginning as him observing JP and his mannerisms, so that he would know when to interrupt and when to let him speak, which I observe he comes to excel at as the conversation progresses. I don't think I've ever seen an interviewee of JP's do that so well, they usually let Jordan talk all over them (as much as I love the man, he does tend to interrupt people too much and run off with his own ideas about things.) A very intelligent observer and thinker, in my opinion, Curt is.
I am on the left and I love Jordan Peterson! I think he is genuine, wise, compassionate and I could listen to him all day.
Could you explain what the left is in your own words - I'm hearing different definitions.
I’m a centrist. No left no right. All I know is social media has rotted honest dialogue and reason. Information for the masses relies on media barons directing editorial prerogatives and AI algorithmic permutations. If Jordan keeps a modicum of balance that will be amazing. I’ll keep listening to him for now.
@@LETSTALKENTERTAINMENT To me it’s not so much the centre that is being cancelled, but a nuanced view is. Or, in light of this conversation, people have a hard time dealing with complexity.
He has a very good point about the utility of the Left. They speak for the dispossessed when the hierarchies have become stagnant, corrupt, and tyrannical. It's (extreme) Leftist types (folks that can't rationally and reasonably be debated) that sabotage the reasonable, rational Left. He underscores that there is a psychological, temperamental, personality-based proclivity to be more left- or right- leaning. I was very much on the Left as a youth, now more center right, or center left, depending on the issue. He's a very eloquent thinker.
I do not see it being possible to be on the left and love Jordan Peterson. The philosophy that Jordan Peterson espouses is not at all genuine, wise, or compassionate from the point of view of the left. You can think Peterson is wise or you can be a leftist. One or the other. If you think you're both, then there's something you're not getting about at least one of them because they are not compatible.
"When you have to lie to keep supporting your position, you've gone too far." man, that's brilliant.
@@Io-Io-Io but we can agree that lying to appease the lynch mob is wrong? Can we agree that a lynch mob that requires lies to avoid inflicting calamity upon others is inherently immoral?
@@michaelalan6459 No. Yes.
@@Io-Io-Io stay with your convictions
😆😆😆😆😆😂😆
@@Io-Io-Io the ballgame really is different at that point….when you can keep to truth regardless of outcome, then that’s REAL courage.
The level of revelatory quality in this dialogue is unprecedented. It's truly an honor and a blessing to listen and absorb this. Thank you to both of you.
Personality cults are so groovy!
@@martinkent333 nice to see you here. Glad your still hanging in there!
I just want to say thank you for changing my life. I've had a lot on my mind recently and I was a bit lost. I have a baby on the way and I'm just 20 years old and I believe I've found myself just listening to you and you've changed my perspective on things quite bit. I've decided to join the coast guard and my goal is to be a rescue swimmer and I've made that goal my purpose and to be able to provide in a immediate fashion and be the best father I can be I used to be quite scared and very unsure of myself and my future. I was afraid and constantly asking what if Im not going to be a good father for my child not anymore though I'm confident in my future and my own family's future now. All I can say is thank you for changing my life and changing millions of others lives. I'm not sure what kind of mental place I would be in without discovering you I'm eternally grateful I just hope you see this and realize what you have done for me and my future child.
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Personality cults always dazzle the dimwits with brainwashing!
@@martinkent333 if its brain washing then why waste your time hear palpitating. Let the lad breath man
@@kehindeakinlotan854 Cuz kids read this moose poo and believe it's valuable, Rube.
This is a very inspiring comment, may your journey as a father be a great one, wishing the absolute best future for you and your child.
This is the one time that I see Jordan genuinely challenged to think about things very deeply before he gives an answer and that is an accomplishment on itself Curt.
Time flies when you're having fun, I think you two should do a follow up on this video soon, clearly you're not finished talking on this topic and you left me the mother of all cliffhangers and I really want to see this conversation go on a bit more.
I learn so much from these conversations and I wish that I had someone in my life to talk about these kind of things at the level you two did in this video.
Thank you so much for sharing this on UA-cam Jordan.
Charismatics dazzle with their groovy personality cults, Rube.
Ahhhh imagine being able to sit and have a conversation like this with someone man it would be beautiful. Too bad people like this are needles in the haystack
You can always start a group on Facebook and invite people 😊👍
@@svetlanavanwyk5623 Christian sensationalism owns one billion Rubes. You must be very very proud.
No, he was set off balance by Noam Chomsky's narrow view as well as synthetic opinion.
I listened to this wonderful conversation while I was on a long brisk walk with my dog today… My dog kept looking at me as if wondering if I was losing my mind… as I kept bursting out-loud with “Yes!”, “Exactly!”, and several “Oh man!”. In the 5+ years of listening to your lectures, discussions, debates and interviews, this felt like the most articulate conversation on many of the topics of greatest interest to this old guy. Thank you for what you have done, for what you are doing and for staying the difficult course. I hope you are as blessed as you have blessed me, really.
Isn't it strange how people can differ so greatly? I hate dogs. They give the shits. They cause panic attacks and stress. If I see a dog walker or hear a dog barking I'll often have a complete meltdown and I'll feel ill for hours after. Wearing noise cancelling phones 24/7 helps as does valium but I'm basically a prisoner in my own home... yet you choose to walk a dog? I don't understand the attraction of dogs?
I really enjoy how relatable and humble Curt is. When he was talking about his anxiety and not feeling well after the George Knapp and Colm Kelleher interview I knew exactly how he felt. Curt you're covering topics that MATTER to us right NOW. Whether it's UFOs, God, or the political divide, I appreciate all of the conversations you foster!!!
You have a time stamp? I must’ve missed it
@@nathanaelmorales760 I don't. It's the George Knapp Colm Kelleher interview and it's the very end after all questions are done. He was giving us an update and roadmap for the future and he got very candid about his feelings and how he's doing. He even mentions the situation with Linda Moulton Howe and that he apologized to her about her interview.
Cuz dimwits don't like facts?
@@Serpents_and_Doves Brainwashing is a beautiful thing!
Or is it:
You're doing what I want SOMEONE to do so i'll support YOU.
who knows? >.^
God and consciousness are my two favorite subjects to discuss. I cant even explain how satisfying it is to listen to this conversation. I have spent most of my thinking on these topics. Thank you both.
@messenger ministries Sure buddy, the guy who is speaking against NWO orders and did a whole lecture on Genesis and explained how amazing Christianity is for humanity is surely a deceiver
Curt is bringing to UA-cam a whole lot of interesting conversations for us to learn from. In my book he is a hero. Thanks JP!
Totally agree
TOE is top tier UA-cam content.
@@josephhertzberg2734 Brainwashing is better than real experts? Mumbo Jumbo good, Tarzan?
@Y K Cuz freaks know?
@@cloud1stclass372 High-level brainwashing for the intellectually constipated?
Mr Peterson, your skill and integrity to reason through ideas is amazing to watch. I turn of most conversations around the world when I see emotion interfere with a theory. When I was a young man (50 now) I hated the world and especially authority and those doing well financially. In my young mind, I came up with a solution for my problem. I am a big man and very talented in the fighting arena around my circles, I was thinking one day that I am capable of taking by force anything I want, I wasn't worried about the Law. The one thing that stopped me and eventually changed me to the man I am today was that I believed in a power that was bigger then me and the world, not only was that power bigger then me, the consequences of any negative actions I do, will carry on for me past my time on this earth. I am a very gentle man these days and work with people with violent backgrounds and trauma in all areas. I am this way because i have changed for the bigger picture not what this world currently values. I have found many men from violent traumatic backgrounds, reason these very concepts as a definition of purpose in this world. Thankyou
It seems to me you have taken on a heavy load, just getting people to be willing sit down, and then to listen, and then to open up and talk, that is an almost insurmountable task, and I suspect an immense amount of frustration, but incredibly rewarding and fulfilling. Having been where they are now would have to be your biggest asset, which goes to show your biggest failings can turn out to become your greatest strength. You make me feel a bit envious, I'm 56 and yet to find a worthy path in life, I'm still searching through.
Does that mean your a Christian? If not I was curious what specifically the higher power is that you mentioned. God Bless
@@jasonlambert2226 Not sure if you were asking me? I'm going to answer anyway. I was christened a Roman Catholic, but at the age of five I was put on a bus in Booraloola Northern Territory by myself to Alice springs Northern Territory. When I went to church, I learnt many things, two of those things were, the massive statue of Jesus and thou shalt not bow down to a craven idol, I thought "that's hypocritical" yes, at 5. I have settled on something like on Star wars, after looking at the Annunaki and seeing what they done gene splicing us, yes they made us who we are, but I believe there is a universal deity that is way bigger than most people can conceive.
Dr Peterson and Curt are good together. This was a great conversation.
Curt's end of the conversation was so impressive. The man is clearly asking the right questions, and bless him for it.
Brainwashing always dazzles the personality cults!
@@martinkent333 I feel enlightened for listening. Brain ✅washed✅
@@martinkent333 you seem obsessed with cults, Martin.
@@steveunderhill5935 Try reading a reliable national newspaper for reality and a doctor for delusions and paranoia, Jesus Freak. Like Duhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@steveunderhill5935 Just tell your medical doctor that you have delusions of invisible super-duper heroes and paranoia about invisible enemies and eternal hellfire. Just because law courts don't swallow this moose poo doesn't mean that you are a rube hustled by Christian hustlers, Cupcake. It might be aliens hustling you instead! I use Holy Water enemas myself and like to wear an altar boy costume and pout.
Great job Dr. Peterson. Curt is a top tier guest and has an exceedingly brilliant attitude to new ideas.
Yes he does! Inspiring human!
@@SubconsciousNarration Brainwashing is fun for rubes!
Curt did so well in this podcast - his thinking is very in the moment while also being concise enough to follow. He lays out big questions without rambling, which is hard to do!
You are dazzled by cheesy brainwashing?
@@martinkent333 find a hobby, Martin
@@martinkent333 If you can do better, which I seriously doubt, why not start your own podcast or UA-cam channel?
@@mkaberli Punch my name and see what happens when sensationalism is ignored by me. Jordan is adored by many - by being a total psychopath, Cupcake.
I've not heard of Curt, but he seems quite intelligent. What a fascinating conversation!
I'd love to see a weekly stream with these two. I don't understand most of what's being said but oddly find it riveting! Thank you Prof. Peterson!
"If you limit yourself to saying nice things you can't really talk about anything at all" - Peter Thiel
Yes
No matter how benign your speech, your enemies will find a way to take offense.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! Those who believe Jordan Peterson is hitler are the real hitler because they are threatened by what Dr Peterson stands for... The need to please everyone is the key to failure in everything... 🤗
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸
Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it..
@@AquarianSoulTimeTraveler ele esta sempre procurando se safar . que fechar os olhos para realidade . as mascaras deles ja cairam . comprovadamente . lá em Israel intende os fatos sabe bem como e um campo de concentração aquele e um povo vivido ja passaram por isso morreram muitos em 1943 hitler ate 1945 . foi o povo que mais morreram . em campos de concentração#
Better left unsaid is a very informative and balanced documentary , it has been heavily suppressed by big tech so the people that really need to see it will unfortunately , never see it.
@Conner Cox I just tried linking it there , but of course, the UA-cam overlords removed the link in under 30 seconds.
@BROADKAST...AND THAT IS SO F*****D UP OF YOU TUBE.
IT'S THE SAME THING THATS HAPPENED WITH THE MEDIA.
IF THERE ARE NO DIFFERENT OPINIONS OFFERED, WHY BOTHER TO VISIT THIS ARENA.....
@@broadkast477 This is why Rumble is rising.
Has anyone read Anthem, by Any Rand? It's really interesting how God sent an Atheist to teach us how to protect our freedom ... from Russia...
@@ElephantWhisperer222 The link to the doc is in the description.
One of the more deeply fulfilling conversations I have had the pleasure of having access to in a long time. I love being a fly on the wall in these moments. Hopefully these two will meet up again soon and share it with us. What an amazing time we live in
Personality cults are so groovy! Love the Kool-Aid!
@@martinkent333 all the negative comments on here share a common theme. All-knowing, bitterness, belittling and lame usage of sarcasm. It's almost guaranteed. Just scroll through and read others, bud. You sound like a miserable lot and don't sell your brand of thought very well.
Conversations like this articulate what many of us already know. I guess that's why it feels powerful and enlightening.
It's awesome that we have the privilege to see and hear great minds talk.
The deeper I listen to this kind of conversation It become more interesting and makes you nod in every point.
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I had never heard of Curt before, I thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
Blessings
Curt’s channel is great. Much (most) of it is above my understanding. But he is so relatable.
Same he seems really intelligent
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸
Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it.
That guy is pretty broad and smart. His own greatest critic, which is a bit troublesome, but it probably keeps him sharp
Check out his channel man. Really
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You mean trained soldiers and the resolve to destroy the occupying forces?
JP needs to speak to that English man I can’t mention on UA-cam. You know the one who has been writing about all this happening 30 years ago. You know his name and it’s not Goliath it’s his adversary.
You can't beat Bolt in a sprint.
Lovely. If we all sit in lotus and hum ‘Omm’, that will fix everything, right? I genuinely appreciate your intention and I don’t mean to be facetious, but I think we need a bolder, braver, morality just now for the sake of the future good.
@@mrashford122 who? What does the second name rhyme with?
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*1) When you are alone, mind your thoughts.*
*2) When you are with your friends, mind your tongue.*
*3) When you are angry, mind your temper.*
*4) When you are with a group, mind your behaviour.*
*5) When you are in trouble, mind your emotions.*
*6) When God starts blessing you, mind your ego.*
#1 Mind your ego
#2 Be grateful
#3 Respect the ecosystem
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mind your ego thoughts.
Jordan you give me a lot of hope for the human race. I am glad you are willing to stand up for truth. People try so hard to shut you down. And yet you keep standing strong. Thanks for spreading truth.
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"We have to stop lying" Thats all that needs to be said! Beautiful!
Two of my favorite philosophers having an amazing conversation.
Wow! Beautiful conversation! 🤯💭
ToE is my favourite podcast by far. Thank you for this conversation.
This is one of the best podcasts iv ever listened to. Maybe THE best (imo ofc). I will definitely be following this guest’s progression. Remarkably similar to Jordan Peterson in at very least his potential. And with differing perspectives too. Gives me hope during this time of intense hopelessness. Simply brilliant
Why does my heart shrink tears out of my eyes when two remarkable gentlemen salute eachother with such genuine respect at the end of an equally remarkable conversation. Thank you For this experience, I truly hope to see more conversations between these two great minds.
ya thats a good reaction
Very much enjoying Curt’s attitude and thought processes. What a beautiful thinker.
Yay! Two of my FAVORITE people together! 🤗 I didn't see this coming. I've been so distracted by world events. What a welcome surprise! I look forward to hearing this conversation. Thanks, guys! You are wonderful. 💔🙏🏽🕊️
I know what you mean about world distractions my friend, since there's so Many going on sadly.. Sometimes we All need to "Disconnect" from the world.
But at least we have a nice, interesting conversation to listen to though. 👍
Godspeed to You n your's my Friend, since there's going to be Far worse time's coming among us All, n to mankind on our Beautiful planet.
Since it's only the Beginning.. 😥
Excellent timing, Ty Professor J.Peterson since we All learn something new everytime there's a discussion. 👍👍
Godspeed to you All my Friend's.
Okay, so I listened to this twice in a row. At no point during this conversation was I NOT experiencing an overall feeling of "...what is happening right now?!" This was inspired by the divine, as was the Gospel.
Well not a damn thing they talked about meets Sceintific Merit...Hell I'm not sure what the hell they were discussing..It's Psycho Babble..
Why you ask? Because the Affect can never be Greater then the Cause. That is an Axiom in the Scientific Method of Discovery..So to get Mind. The Universe needs the traits to Create Mind. Feelings, Emotions, Music, Art etc....You tell me the Universe can. I will laugh in your face so hard. As it's not Testable, Observable, Repeatable. Anywhere in the Universe.
So these two are second rate. When it comes to Meta Physics. Higher Dimensions. The concept of an Outside Agency. God, Creator. It's above them...
To quote Spock...
How do you Feel?
I don't understand the question....
Why you don't have to be religious. To spot people that live their lives under the rules of Situational Ethics. Which is dangerous. As long as I mean well. It's ethical and moral. Up too and including Murder. Why we have Laws, Standing Armies, Jails, Prisons, Police. etc...As they would kill us all and burn it all down.
@@WizzRacing @Up2NoGood honestly, if youre going to criticize these guys for being second rate and spouting psycho babble, you should probably articulate yourself a bit better while doing it. This argument is all over the place, im not even sure what your counter argument is here. Also, the random capitalizations dont help.
@@dylandecesare2652 Well let me make it easy for the Short Bus Riders.
Can the Effect be Greater then the Cause?
Does the Universe have the Traits to create Mind?
What Mechanism Allows it? As you only have the Four Fundamental Forces in Nature. That cause an Action or Something to Move...
If that is too hard to comprehend. No wonder you're confused. You been robbed of an Education. As Analytical Thinking is required to start with..
Maybe punch your teachers in the stomach. Then ask the Schools for a Refund.
I will wait, while you fumble around for an answer...
@@WizzRacing ok, we get all of that, sorta. Because youre hardly articulating your claim. Still havent made clear what it is you are refuting. Still capitalizing letters at random. Maybe you should punch your English teacher because your grammar is second rate.
@@WizzRacing Best you work on your humility.
One of the best conversations I've heard. Had to rewatch and stop multiple times to take notes... Amazing!
I thought I was the only one doing that. I kept on writing, rewinding the video, pause, write and play.... this was a lecture and a half.
I really enjoyed the conversation, it's an honor to be in the presence of such well read, deep thinking people. Thanks for sharing this.
Brainwashing is fun for all rubes!
So glad to hear this being talked about. Ive followed you for a while Jordan, but its crazy because every time I have some obscure question about the way the world works, theres always an underlying despair because I realize most people dont even know how to ask certain questions in the first place. Simply bringing the questions to light and addressing them the best you can with other people is an enormous blessing! Thank you!
@@kaivogel253 Its funny you say that, because most of Jordan Petersons questions about topics often result in him asking what the topic even is in the first place. Which most people dont do. What exactly did he say that you think is "wrong?" I think he is exceptionally good at asking questions. Almost too good, because he is willing to sacrifice our current knowledge of something for something new. Which ironically, if I had to guess, is why people like you dont like him. You want a simple answer, and you cant comprehend why people who follow him would be okay with "not knowing." But please, tell me exactly what he said that you think is "wrong."
Curt has been killing it the past year or two.
Still unbelievable this content is FREE. One of the greatest thinkers alive right now… imagine if Aristotle Plato or Socrates could have reached everyone on the globe during their time …
Personality cults are so groovy, Rube.
@@martinkent333 martin find god
@@martinkent333 what is an elderly fella like yourself doing on youtube comments
@@gsav1320 You never check Bible facts, cuz Christian brainwashing makes you a fabulous rube! If you ever did check Bible facts, you would find that Jesus Christ appeared when the Jews failed in their revolt against Rome in 70 CE. The Hebrews in Palestine created Jesus Christ aka Maccabbees ll. That way they could do business under a new name and feed their families and avoid massacres. The Apostle Paul was an excellent example of this. He was about to enter Damascus and saw that there was a Jewish massacre there. So he became an instant Christian. On the high ground between three continents, the ancient Hebrews created Moses and Jehovah in 950 BCE. Checking Bible facts helps you with law courts, and avoids delusions and paranoia. Kids, if you crave anal sex, just wink at a priest!
@@gsav1320 Looking for Scrupulosity suffers and on Easter Weekend, offering free Holy Water enemas. For a price, I can give them Kentucky Moonshine to mix in, so that they can SEE GOD........................................ On Good Friday 2033, the 2000th anniversary of Jesus Christ's happy crucifixion, the streets of Jerusalem are sold out - BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Curt is such an incredibly profound and articulate thinker- thank you so much for the both of you talking. I’ll be checking out more of his content
Cuz personality cults are so groovy?
@@martinkent333 it’s funny you would make an ambiguous comment like that instead of refuting any single point that was made in the entire video- but that simply reveals your intention of the comment and I will not be listening to you accordingly
What a fantastic conversation. Worth every minute!
Wow, congrats Curt. Incredible to find you here with the good doctor! Health and love to both of you.
Hands down one of the best podcasts I wanted 3 more hours and hopefully they will get back together soon
Personality cults serve poison Kool-Aid, Jordan.
@@martinkent333 So liking something makes it a cult... your reasoning is sound, I'll never listen to anything again unless it's something you prescribe that's based on the same things you like. BECAUSE you could never be co-opted into a decisive ideology. OR and hear me out you could just let people enjoy conversations without poo pooing on them because someone likes this persons content over your own. We have a pandemic and potential world war maybe, just maybe let people enjoy the things in life they enjoy.
@@jordanmizell4402 Archeologists and historians can't find any facts to back up the Holy Bible, but you have an opinion? The Jews created Moses and Jehovah in 950 BCE. 200,000 raped altar boys testify to your mighty God and his mighty angels' heavenly protection. The Book of Revelation took 300 years until it was recognized as a part of the Bible canon. When carbon-dating St Peter's chair, it was found to be a hoax. If you want to frolic in fantasyland with the other rubes be my guest, but if I see a comment that smacks of extreme silliness, I will appear to you..............
@@martinkent333 Once again all I said was I enjoy this conversation , Now you are having an argument with yourself and that's probably all the community you will get cause the rest of us have friends. Give it a rest and stop bringing up weird things I never talked about. I'm not Catholic I was barely religious but based on what you just said and based on what they said I'm for sure going to look into going to a church and finding some loving community as what you offer seems vile and detestable. good day sir.
Wooo it's nice to see young thinkers that will be there to carry the torch forward. Really get the feeling from both that it's less about finding answers but realizing we need to ask questions and challenge complacency.
Curt didn't want the conversation to end. 🤣
I din´t want the conversation to end :P
I did not want it to end either, because I thought if I waited long enough, I might get to hear from the "guest" instead of merely Jordan, for 90% of the time. Maybe Curt thought the same.
I absolutely loved this conversation! This is by far my favorite one yet. I just need to understand why!
Cuz brainwashing feeds your siliness.
Satisfies your spiritual constipation.
Curt is a revelation. Precise, concise, sharp and is in the 'zone' with regards to questions revealing intellectual truths. Thanks gents for a rewarding conversation.
I had no who Curt Jaimungal is and now I'm thoroughly impressed
Another personality cult?
@@martinkent333 well itdepends on what do you mean by “personality cult”.
What I meant was it seems I’ve been introduced to a well-read, intelligent person, who’s careful with his words while being admirably articulate.
@@e.znamini3241 A slick hustlers, eh Cupcake?
Very few people demonstrate the same level of epistemic humility as Curt which is one reason his podcast is so damn interesting.
Truly transcendent conversation.
Well done Curt! This conversation was like an almost never-ending crescendo, a symphonic cacophony, I could physically feel tension building up within me, and then there were a couple of sentences that were like an epiphany, which released all the tension and brought everything together. As an analogy, much like a techno dance track when you've had a couple of Garys and the bass finally drops. Equally similar, was that feeling then began to repeat itself, however, the earlier epiphany made the repetition less tense.
Thank you gentlemen.
I felt the same, sometimes I was terrified and sometimes I was relieved.
@@isabellachavez3555 We made it, Isabella! 😉 Curt is very easy to listen to and understand, I think the feelings you and I felt were a reflection of Jordan's energy.
I always hoped that Jordan would have a talk with Ken Wilber. I don't know how Ken's health is but it certainly would be a delight for me to listen these two giants of integral thinking converse.
Two of my favorite channels in one interview! ♥️
After Covid, I am with myself.
Thank you for a highly intelligent conversation regarding how easily people are divided against themselves.
Fascinating conversation ! Bring on more philosophers & Muslim theologians please. 🙏🏾
I was really happy to see Curt mention Donald Hoffman, however briefly, because the discussion up until that point made me realise how compatible in many ways JP's views on perception (and its fundamental relationship with consciousness) could be with Hoffman's model, which left me hankering for Curt to mention him. I would really love to see a dialogue between JP and Hoffman, because I think there is a lot of shared ground, or intuition, between them.
That said, I'm not entirely sure how fruitful it would be since they seem to be coming at similar problems from such radically different disciplines, with very different reasons for doing so. There may be overlap in thinking, and I think in some sense they are converging on similar underlying ideas, but when you start from such different places in such complex terrain, sometimes you fail to see how you're even exploring the same territory.
In any case, fantastic talk. I always enjoy Curt's attentiveness, sprawling thoughts and humility (particularly his lack of hesitation to ask for further clarification). Great to see you two have a discussion.
I get pumped every time I hear Hoffman brought up. Lex Fridman mentions him once in a while as well.
Such an engaging conversation. 🙂 I much appreciated this conversation and can't wait to hear more from Mr Jaymungal. I rewound several times to grasp topics. Thank you for your time, wisdom, and knowledge. Blessings to you both.
Great interview - really enjoyed it. I can't help thinking that we need more leaders in power that are honest to themselves and don't lie so much.
Good luck on that one. The reason they don’t give a rats ass about us is obvious. Before you can give something you have to have it first… And who the xxx would want to have a rats ass?
@@johnlamarca9439 The police are sleeping, Cupcake?
Paranoia keeps you aware? Your trust in the police is shattered, Karen?
Great conversation, guys. Can't wait to watch Curt Jaimungal's documentary ‘Better Left Unsaid’.
Brainwashing gives you the shivers?
The discussion around 50:00 is beyond fascinating: If our most fundamental mode of interaction with (perception of) the world is use/utilization, since the utilization have a very strong connotation of power, then at the very base of our reality is power ... this brings us full circle back to the issue of post-modernism and its corrosive effect on the modern civilizations (as outlined earlier in the talk).
Big fans of you both. That was one of the most enjoyable podcasts that I have heard. Excellent conversation. I hope there will be a part 2 at some stage.🖒
Personality cults always dazzle the halfwits!
Phenomenal conversation!!! Two of my favorites. 🙏 thank you
Very excellent conversation
Thankyou so much guys these conversations feed the soul, they are so valuable. Even more valuable is the word of God itself 🙂
This is one of the best podcasts iv ever listened to. Maybe THE best (imo ofc). I will definitely be following this guest’s progression. Remarkably similar to Jordan Peterson in at very least his potential. And with differing perspectives too. Gives me hope during this time of intense hopelessness
Brilliant exploration ! I humbly admit that my intellectual capacity has been optimally stretched with this conversation, and I like it !
Cuz ignorant rubes are always dazzled by brainwashing!!
@@martinkent333 what
Love Curt, so happy he got this interview!!
"God isn't like a table" - Jordan B. Peterson, Nov. 1, 2021
I'm Imagining a table-God in heaven: "Why do you think my son was a carpenter? Man JBP, so close yet so far."
Always love your talks Curt. This was a JP podcast, but with these conversations, it doesn't matter. I'll watch everything you do.
ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛ, ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴀᴛʜʀʏɴ ʟɪɴᴄᴋ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs
𝚃ᵉ𝚇ţ𝄍𝑾𝒉𝔮τ𝑠𝑨𝑝𝑝
±𝟭𝟲𝟭𝟵𝟴𝟯𝟲𝟭𝟵𝟬𝟳
ʟᴇᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ɪ ʀᴇғᴇʀʀᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ...
I'd say, this is the first guest to really expand upon the JBP ethos. If there was ever someone who could come close to filling the shoes of JBP, Curt is it. Please consider having him on again!
2 articulated intelligent people having an AWSUM conversation.
Who is interviewing who? Who cares.
Curt has by far the best general podcast on UA-cam bar none.
This guy has spoken to Jordan Peterson and Norman Wildberger in less than a month. He's working my dream job.
He had the Convo with Jordan in November
❤️my friends im happy to hear this talk. You are looking good Jordan🙏healthy
Jordan Peterson, I've been praying for you for the past year, that God would reveal Himself to you as so much more than a concept - so much more than philosophy and symbolism. All of these are but shadows in our reflective existence, indicating the reality of Him Who lives outside the dimensions we are limited to in this life. All life, all goodness, and all personhood flows from Him. As such, He is more of an individual person than any human.
I pray He reveals Himself to you, Jordan, as He longs for you to know Him... because He is the answer to every question and conundrum we wrestle with. There's such complete rest and peace, in His presence. I pray for you, Jordan. You are an incredible blessing to so many people!
To receive His presence, it's required that we humble our human mind to receive as an experience a knowledge that we cannot explain with human words. For God to be God, His wisdom and personhood must be far more than the wiring of our brain circuits can handle. This can make a logically-oriented person pull back from experiencing Him. But there is no rest for the human soul until it finds its rest in God.
These conversations make my brain grow. 🧠
I love it.imagine if everyone had this knowledge and able to have discussions with intentions to learn and grow and educate so we can evolve in a way that really benifits us all
Man, that’s a deep, symbiotic, and exploratory conversation. Like, two free-style jazz musicians, jammin. And realizing that this conversation is just the tip of a much deeper and wider iceberg. Danm, makes me feel ill-equipped for further discovery. But, that doesn’t mean I won’t try; I still have a snorkel and goggles at least 😉
Listen to the conversation at 1.5 speed...even more of a ride! I'll need to relisten and use handrails
@Mitthenstein ya for u maybe. Not for everybody else
When you watch on rumble the documentary JFK to 9/11 everything is a rich man's trick you will see both Democrat and Republican are both Nazis... The Nazis were created to retaliate against the Russian people that beheaded the cousins of the British royals and took over the castle kicking them out and keeping them from traveling there. This was a retaliatory strike for them doing this they created Hitler with two purposes maintain the kingdom and get rid of populations in Russia Europe and all sorts of other places. Hitler was controlled by ☠️👁️💸
Why do you think Hitler invaded Russia in the winter! His whole purpose was to shut down communism because that's what he was controlled and told to do. Operation paperclip Nazi supposedly lose all the Jews instead of given homes back in their own countries are shipped out to a massive concentration camp in the desert called Israel!!! Anti-communism beliefs get pushed into America and now this is accepted by both sides that this is bad and Hitler wins an America is the new Nazi regime. Search for this documentary on UA-cam but you have to scroll for a long long time because they do not want you to see it but I'm rumbled it will be the very top video under that search term JFK to 911 everything is Rich Man's trick. It's almost 4 hours long just watch it.
@Mitthenstein ok sure, whatever you say. Thanks for your input. I change my…….oh nevermind
@Mitthenstein lol I was trying to end this. You win! Good job. Your very smart and don’t have your own bias😁. Think about it all I did was admire the convo. And you had to reply with a rant, lol. I made no statement saying he was right or wrong. You just assumed im a fan because i admired the conversation. Geez relax man
That was so great I didn't want it to finish (like many other conversations on this podcast)! I hope you'll continue at some point.
Dr Peterson you're such an amazing moral man. I love your discussions and ability to assess people behaviors. I agree with all you say. A gift to us all. African American Muslima 67yr.
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Terrific conversation. Yes, let's not burn the world down. God, or whatever the creation is, bless us all. The Good, the bad the ugly
A most interesting conversation. Thank you for this food for my soul. One of the best I’ve heard. Really thought provoking.
How intelligent is this man , he makes things crystal clear. Last comment until I think about it! 😄
Brainwashing and personality cults always dazzle the dimwits, Jeff!
@@martinkent333 So commenting how intelligent I found somebody who I'd seen for the 1st time makes me a dimwit? Iv just witnessed the majority of the World accept a problem and run for the solution without a second thought. For a flu, and amongst them some far more intelligent people than myself. I wasn't one of them was you? Don't presume u know me enough to call me that. I'm exploring a few people's opinions on certain things and some things , tho I don't profess fully understand some of the things I definitely got the points on the level I could understand it on. So sorry Proffessor Kent !!!!!
@@martinkent333 Brainwashed people vaccinate themselves and their children and still don't get the irony that after everything that's happened it's now be treated as a flu, but not until April 1st Boris said.!!!! Haha. FOOLS DAY. ( though he brought it forward the plain sight message remains.. They even believe they made the decision when they were clearly cohersed , first through fear then through the fear of losing jobs not being able to travel etc etc. Bet you was one of them as well. Got my back up you . Defense mechanism I think it's called Proffessor.
Two of my favourite gentlemen-I cannot wait for this discussion!!!
Watching these podcasts has caused a serious pattern of distracted driving for me. Not because I’m necessarily listening to them while I’m driving, but because they leave my mind wandering with so many thoughts, hypotheses, and burning questions about the abstract world, existential reality, and morality. Seriously, I’ve almost gotten into a lot of accidents because of this.
Who would have thought that thinking would be a form of distracted driving?
Be careful, bud!
Thank you both of you, it was a fantastic conversation
Wow!!! Been waiting for this. I'm at work now but can't wait until this evening to watch this. I have so much respect and admiration for both of these gentleman!
Wow! You guys were on fire. Bringing clarity to deep fuzzy ideas!
Was looking for a new podcast as this pops up! Perfect!
One of the best conversations I have had the opportunity to listen to. Thank you as always sir
ᴛʜᴀɴᴋs ғᴏʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴄᴏᴍᴍᴇɴᴛ, ᴍᴀᴋᴇ ᴀ ɴᴏᴛᴇ ᴛᴏ ᴋᴀᴛʜʀʏɴ ʟɪɴᴄᴋ ʀᴇɢᴀʀᴅɪɴɢ ʙᴛᴄ/ ᴇᴛʜ ɪɴᴠᴇsᴛᴍᴇɴᴛ ɪᴅᴇᴀs
𝚃ᵉ𝚇ţ𝄍𝑾𝒉𝔮τ𝑠𝑨𝑝𝑝
±𝟭𝟲𝟭𝟵𝟴𝟯𝟲𝟭𝟵𝟬𝟳
ʟᴇᴛ ʜᴇʀ ᴋɴᴏᴡ ɪ ʀᴇғᴇʀʀᴇᴅ ʏᴏᴜ.
The end of this talk brought to my mind “The One and the Many” by W. Norris Clarke, S.J. - a book about Thomistic metaphysical systems of thought. A worthy read and another example of how great minds can take each other to even greater heights. Thank you Dr. Peterson and Mr. Jaimungal for this most intriguing discussion!
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Thanks Curt and Jordan!
Wow , I'm lost but still totally enthralled, imagine being that intelligent, I'm always sat daydreaming thinking now so imagine these guys deep in thought.
He’s so happy to see curt on here 👏🔥
This is the way we should be learning in schools. Make those connections to obtain a better understanding of not only the subject you're studying but to relate to different fields and to gain new perspective. Perspective is D.E.I.