For sure the twin V10. Cheaper to maintain, slightly better fuel economy (per Beneteau's own testing), similar range but the price difference is not worth the slight increase in speed. Even better, take the savings from the 3rd engine and get a set of Sharrow Props and economy goes up even more and you'd close the gap in acceleration.
Outboards on a boat like this is just stupid... Dual Diesel inboards would give you much better fuel economy and a large swim platform which would also be a place for storing a tender.
@@BilldalSWE I mean - OK. You're going to pay more for inboards, lose interior space, and have higher maintenance cost and less performance. If range and fuel economy is your only consideration then inboards is the way to go. I have no interest in inboard powered boats and my use case is not super long-range cruising so I'm really glad to have a larger boat with outboard power. Seems like there are other companies going this way so I can't be the only one.
@@albertpenello You were the one mentioning fuel economy and the fact a slight increase in performance was not worth it. Otherwise I wouldn't have commented. Also as an example of performance , dual 440hp Volvo Penta D6 takes a Sargo 36 fly which is the same weight (20000lb/9000kg)as this Antares up to 42 knots and has a higher combined torque of 2000Nm compared to only 1275Nm for 3x300 Verados which (with the duoprops) means better acceleration. The loss of storage space under the cockpit floor is definitely a good point but not one that overweighs the loss of the swimplatform and dingy storage as I've never met someone with a 40+ ft flybridge boat who didn't run a dinghy.
Is there any benefit to having trippel outboards? Top speed okay, but the difference is not that big from 2. Personally cruising range is more important.
Speed. Fuel economy is *slightly* worse with 3 V8 vs 2 v10, but the boat is faster to plane and a higher top speed. Cruising range is about the same with both engines.
Another superb review video Jack. Always a pleasure to watch. Certainly a-lot of boat and innovation for the $ with the Antares 12. Probably go with the twin engines and get the bow thruster integrated into the remote. Now, Your fur-lined Crocs.... I've found some on your recommendation. Did you find to had to go up a size? Looking forward to your next video.
Antares range of boats are practical, the galley is well thought out all the seats are flexible in their use. Décor is tasteful, a good contrast between white and wood. Expensive for me yes, but if you have the money then she is definitely worth a look, and buy.
The only thing I would question is the TV right behind the hub. Cooking may cause splattering on to the screen. Plus, it blocks the window. Of course, and I don't believe you said either way, If the TV is retractable... That would make sense.
Hi I am very interested in a boat like this but curious if you have come across any FB/CB boats like this that have a fishing package. Mainly rod holder and rocket launcher (upper rod storage) and maybe convertible cooler live well. I feel like this would be a great option here in south Florida. Some luxurious trolling. Ty!
Idd I read that 2engines could be enough for normal cruising. Still I am very curious to see a test with oce 300 hp twin diesel outboards with sharrow props on it.......
I bet just sharrow props on the V10's would help a lot. The money you save in buying 2 V10's vs 3 V8's more than pays for a set of Sharrow props and you get better economy and probably close the gap on speed an acceleration as well.
Another great review Jack 👍This has tough competition from the Jeneau/Merry Fisher 1295, but i think this seems to be a bit higher quality spec? Re your question, heart says triple 300's, the head, and wallet, says twin V10 400's...
Outboards on a boat like this is just stupid... Dual Diesel inboards would give you much better fuel economy and a large swim platform which would also be a place for storing a tender.
Twin 400's would be the better option. A lot of people don't know that those engines actually burn less fuel than the 300's. But the 300's are also very fuel efficient. However 2 engines pushing 800hp vs 3 engines pushing 900hp, you have to account for the extra weight of that engine so it isn't giving you the full 900 so it would cost more to habe an extra engine that is pushing marginal extra power. Not worth it. Put some Sharrow props on them 400's and really get fuel savings
Love this cruiser Jack, personally I'd go with the twin engine option, plenty fast enough. Just a thought, but with a cruiser of approx. 12 metres do manufacturers of smaller boats ever consider it would it be better use of space if there's wasn't a flybridge helm? Appreciate though that navigating from the upper helm can be great in the warmer months.
Thanks Jack. The Joy Stick for Mercury can integrate the bow thruster. It's nice to know that a $680K boat crawls up towards a Million with a seakeeper. They seem to be an popular but expensive option.
Hi jack a while back you did a review of Regal 42 FXO at the time you said it was the only outboard power flybridge well not anymore. This boats so much better. In so many ways two standard bathrooms larger rooms, bigger flybridge if I had one negative thing to say, that it doesn’t come with a hard top I just don’t like Bimini oh p.s would go with-the three engine option
One thing that's missed a lot is the Regal is not only significantly more expensive, but since it was designed as an inboard boat you have a lot less interior space. Boats designed from the start as outboard boats don't have to accommodate for a large engine room. This boat is cheaper and has a lot more room than the Regal.
I find it odd that the beds in the Twin cabin, and VIP cabin is down on the floor. Wouldn't it be more practical to raise the beds up.. even by 10".. and have storage underneath? I believe it would be very difficult to change the bedding also.
Strange place for the TV it's going to get filthy behind the stove (unless it's a hi low unit) and can't be seen if anyone is cooking, also the grill on the flybridge is right behind the helm so the back of that seat will be covered in grease in no time.
I'd go for the two engine option. I'm not sure that anyone could notice those few knots difference and there are reduced maintenance costs also. I am amazed by how many boats this size are going for outboards instead of inboards.
Great review Jack. Really like the boat’s use of space and amount of forward facing seating (strangely unusual!). However, to succeed in the UK/Europe I suspect they’ll need to offer inboard diesels!
Great boat for sure, but considerably more expensive then the twin-engine Antares 12, and being an inboard boat you have less space. Galeon makes awesome boats but like the Regal you're going to pay a lot more.
It definitely boils down to the spec options you put on the boat. Another boat to consider is the MF 1295 Fly, this I believe is the most for your $ in this size flybridge@@albertpenello
@@SeaVTV4 Agree! Interesting you bring up the MF1295. I looked at both boats at FLIBS (along with the Galleon and the Regal) - here's the thing in reality the Antares 12 is a MUCH better deal AND can be had cheaper than the MF1295. Reason is, Jeanneau does not pre-rig the motors so the price they are quoting is without engines. Beneteau (starting with the Antares 12) is pre-rigging the boats from the factory so the price quoted is WITH motors. This saves the customer money in rigging costs from the dealership but makes Antares 12 appear more expensive at first glance. Also, the MF1295 does not offer at 2 motor version, so right off the bat you can get into an Antares 12 for $80K less than the MF1295. The Antares 12 learned a lot of lessons since it came afterward, so the A12 is 1.5 feet longer (adding the gangway in the rear means the cockpit seat does not need to go back to raise the motors, which does happen in the 1295), and there are options not available in the MF1295 like the factory installed inverter and anchor locker wash-down. And finally, the flybridge layout is improved over the 1295 by removing some wasted space up front, moving the helm seat forward (better visibility) and so the Fly on the A12 seems much more spacious than the 1295. I saw both boats back-to-back at FLIBS and got the price sheets on both to compare. The A12 has more standard features and a lower entry point than the 1295 but because of how they talk about "starting at" the MF1295 appears cheaper but it's not.
Is a boat with 800/900 hp a good contender for „best family boat“? Considering it being far far away from being a sustainable solution, adding heavily to climate change, harming the children’s future.
Thank you for this great review of the new Antares 12, Jack! It was a pleasure having you onboard !
Beneteau's Antares line is fantastic. Love the short and sweet reviews you've been doing. 👍
Thanks Jeff, appreciate that! - Jack
I was able to get on this boat at FLIBS and loved it. Been waiting for Jack and YachtBuyer to get this video up!
Sorry to keep you waiting, hope it was worth the wait! 😆
Love it. Quality tour and edit. More please 😊
A very nice yacht, some nice features and details. Triple engines for me it just looks more awesome. Great tour Jack thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it, Sean, thanks! - Jack
I think this is a excellent practical boat for the money thanks Jack
For sure the twin V10. Cheaper to maintain, slightly better fuel economy (per Beneteau's own testing), similar range but the price difference is not worth the slight increase in speed. Even better, take the savings from the 3rd engine and get a set of Sharrow Props and economy goes up even more and you'd close the gap in acceleration.
This!
Outboards on a boat like this is just stupid... Dual Diesel inboards would give you much better fuel economy and a large swim platform which would also be a place for storing a tender.
@@BilldalSWE I mean - OK. You're going to pay more for inboards, lose interior space, and have higher maintenance cost and less performance. If range and fuel economy is your only consideration then inboards is the way to go. I have no interest in inboard powered boats and my use case is not super long-range cruising so I'm really glad to have a larger boat with outboard power. Seems like there are other companies going this way so I can't be the only one.
@@albertpenello You were the one mentioning fuel economy and the fact a slight increase in performance was not worth it. Otherwise I wouldn't have commented. Also as an example of performance , dual 440hp Volvo Penta D6 takes a Sargo 36 fly which is the same weight (20000lb/9000kg)as this Antares up to 42 knots and has a higher combined torque of 2000Nm compared to only 1275Nm for 3x300 Verados which (with the duoprops) means better acceleration. The loss of storage space under the cockpit floor is definitely a good point but not one that overweighs the loss of the swimplatform and dingy storage as I've never met someone with a 40+ ft flybridge boat who didn't run a dinghy.
Great presentation, as always. Thank you very much
Our pleasure!
Beneteau ! One of the BEST!
The Antares is ok, but which boat is the blue one on the other side?
Very smart boat, twin V10's please. 😜
Loved the start of the vid very cool. 👍❤️🇬🇧
Is there any benefit to having trippel outboards? Top speed okay, but the difference is not that big from 2. Personally cruising range is more important.
Put in a couple of Volvo diesel and you are better of.
Speed. Fuel economy is *slightly* worse with 3 V8 vs 2 v10, but the boat is faster to plane and a higher top speed. Cruising range is about the same with both engines.
Nice job Jack. I'd be happy with either, but I'd do the triple 300 mostly for resale value.
Another superb review video Jack. Always a pleasure to watch. Certainly a-lot of boat and innovation for the $ with the Antares 12. Probably go with the twin engines and get the bow thruster integrated into the remote. Now, Your fur-lined Crocs.... I've found some on your recommendation. Did you find to had to go up a size? Looking forward to your next video.
Thank you, appreciate the kind words! I had to revert to standard Crocs as the fur took a beating! Enjoy them while they’re fresh - Jack
Antares range of boats are practical, the galley is well thought out all the seats are flexible in their use. Décor is tasteful, a good contrast between white and wood. Expensive for me yes, but if you have the money then she is definitely worth a look, and buy.
Great summary! 💪
I wonder if there is a tender attachment for this vessel? Other than towing it.
Love
You are very relatable. Always enjoy your work!
That’s kind of you to say, thank you - Jack
I quite like this.
The only thing I would question is the TV right behind the hub.
Cooking may cause splattering on to the screen.
Plus, it blocks the window.
Of course, and I don't believe you said either way, If the TV is retractable... That would make sense.
It is, you can see the cover on the top
Thank you for clarifying that 😉
And by the way... I absolutely love your channel.
You have your own unique way of giving tours. Definitely a lot better than most!
Great to hear Max, thank you! - Jack
Hi I am very interested in a boat like this but curious if you have come across any FB/CB boats like this that have a fishing package. Mainly rod holder and rocket launcher (upper rod storage) and maybe convertible cooler live well. I feel like this would be a great option here in south Florida. Some luxurious trolling. Ty!
Twin engines here🎉
It doesn't look like that TV drops down so it doubles as a backsplash when you're cooking on the stove top?
It does drop down into the galley unit - Jack
Idd I read that 2engines could be enough for normal cruising. Still I am very curious to see a test with oce 300 hp twin diesel outboards with sharrow props on it.......
I bet just sharrow props on the V10's would help a lot. The money you save in buying 2 V10's vs 3 V8's more than pays for a set of Sharrow props and you get better economy and probably close the gap on speed an acceleration as well.
Another great review Jack 👍This has tough competition from the Jeneau/Merry Fisher 1295, but i think this seems to be a bit higher quality spec?
Re your question, heart says triple 300's, the head, and wallet, says twin V10 400's...
Yep, there’s some good stuff in that sector! - J
Outboards on a boat like this is just stupid... Dual Diesel inboards would give you much better fuel economy and a large swim platform which would also be a place for storing a tender.
Hi Jack, twin 400's will save about £1000 a year in servicing. Not a small amount of dosh.
Good point 👍 - J
Twin 400's would be the better option. A lot of people don't know that those engines actually burn less fuel than the 300's. But the 300's are also very fuel efficient. However 2 engines pushing 800hp vs 3 engines pushing 900hp, you have to account for the extra weight of that engine so it isn't giving you the full 900 so it would cost more to habe an extra engine that is pushing marginal extra power. Not worth it. Put some Sharrow props on them 400's and really get fuel savings
Twin 400 is available - Beneteau has the fuel economy and it actually favors the V10 slightly - at the expense of top speed.
Hey I love your videos, but this price class is still to high for most of us😅. Can you maybe start a series with used yachts? Would be awesome!
What’s your profession? Would you mind changing your job if I ask nicely?
Love this cruiser Jack, personally I'd go with the twin engine option, plenty fast enough. Just a thought, but with a cruiser of approx. 12 metres do manufacturers of smaller boats ever consider it would it be better use of space if there's wasn't a flybridge helm? Appreciate though that navigating from the upper helm can be great in the warmer months.
Thanks Jack. The Joy Stick for Mercury can integrate the bow thruster. It's nice to know that a $680K boat crawls up towards a Million with a seakeeper. They seem to be an popular but expensive option.
I asked about this an unfortunately that feature isn't implemented here. They aren't using the variable-speed bow thrusters which integrate yet.
The video quality does not do this boat justice. Might be time for a higher resolution camera. Love the boat, and the host is great!
I'm watching it in 4k/2160P. Not sure about you.
Hi jack a while back you did a review of Regal 42 FXO at the time you said it was the only outboard power flybridge well not anymore. This boats so much better. In so many ways two standard bathrooms larger rooms, bigger flybridge if I had one negative thing to say, that it doesn’t come with a hard top I just don’t like Bimini oh p.s would go with-the three engine option
One thing that's missed a lot is the Regal is not only significantly more expensive, but since it was designed as an inboard boat you have a lot less interior space. Boats designed from the start as outboard boats don't have to accommodate for a large engine room. This boat is cheaper and has a lot more room than the Regal.
I find it odd that the beds in the Twin cabin, and VIP cabin is down on the floor.
Wouldn't it be more practical to raise the beds up.. even by 10".. and have storage underneath?
I believe it would be very difficult to change the bedding also.
Strange place for the TV it's going to get filthy behind the stove (unless it's a hi low unit) and can't be seen if anyone is cooking, also the grill on the flybridge is right behind the helm so the back of that seat will be covered in grease in no time.
The saloon TV does retract 👍
I'd go for the two engine option. I'm not sure that anyone could notice those few knots difference and there are reduced maintenance costs also. I am amazed by how many boats this size are going for outboards instead of inboards.
it keeps switching from 1080p to 4k
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Great review Jack.
Really like the boat’s use of space and amount of forward facing seating (strangely unusual!).
However, to succeed in the UK/Europe I suspect they’ll need to offer inboard diesels!
Twin's for power!
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This used to be sub 500k wasnt it? Doesn't seem that interesting when it competes with Targa40 in price.
Id pick the Galeon 440 fly instead
Great boat for sure, but considerably more expensive then the twin-engine Antares 12, and being an inboard boat you have less space. Galeon makes awesome boats but like the Regal you're going to pay a lot more.
It definitely boils down to the spec options you put on the boat. Another boat to consider is the MF 1295 Fly, this I believe is the most for your $ in this size flybridge@@albertpenello
@@SeaVTV4 Agree! Interesting you bring up the MF1295. I looked at both boats at FLIBS (along with the Galleon and the Regal) - here's the thing in reality the Antares 12 is a MUCH better deal AND can be had cheaper than the MF1295. Reason is, Jeanneau does not pre-rig the motors so the price they are quoting is without engines. Beneteau (starting with the Antares 12) is pre-rigging the boats from the factory so the price quoted is WITH motors. This saves the customer money in rigging costs from the dealership but makes Antares 12 appear more expensive at first glance. Also, the MF1295 does not offer at 2 motor version, so right off the bat you can get into an Antares 12 for $80K less than the MF1295. The Antares 12 learned a lot of lessons since it came afterward, so the A12 is 1.5 feet longer (adding the gangway in the rear means the cockpit seat does not need to go back to raise the motors, which does happen in the 1295), and there are options not available in the MF1295 like the factory installed inverter and anchor locker wash-down. And finally, the flybridge layout is improved over the 1295 by removing some wasted space up front, moving the helm seat forward (better visibility) and so the Fly on the A12 seems much more spacious than the 1295. I saw both boats back-to-back at FLIBS and got the price sheets on both to compare. The A12 has more standard features and a lower entry point than the 1295 but because of how they talk about "starting at" the MF1295 appears cheaper but it's not.
@@albertpenello Excellent insight about pre-rigging and 2 outboard option.
No it is not. Sirena Marine has far better offerings.
Two 400's and keep them well apart, so it runs like a mono but handles like a cat
Don't fancy the job of wiping off the bacon grease off that TV 'splash back'... seriously ? ... 🇬🇧
The TV drops into the counter when not in use...
@@Yachtbuyer Ah, now it makes sense ! ... Great review as always Jack. 🇬🇧
I can barely afford a new car. Why the hell am I watching this?!
Is a boat with 800/900 hp a good contender for „best family boat“?
Considering it being far far away from being a sustainable solution, adding heavily to climate change, harming the children’s future.