I am also a phd scholar in english literature ,working as an assistant professor ..as a woman for me...drinking and going to parties is not feminism..being independent ,financially stable ..loving passionately ...study ..and taking care of my family ..is the real feminism...what nonsense is getting drunk like fool ..and sleep with anybody you come across..its only spoiling our youth
There's nothing wrong to drink or smoke or doing party if it's individual's choice ,, but it's not the meaning of feminism at all .. ⚠️ not encouraging these activities though
Hahah!! I choose the other way around.. I love to experiment and explore.. it's wrong to say that it's not real feminism.. femininity is what a female is, the energy she exudes and the grace with which she carries herself.. we are defining things which is great!!
Empowering women doesn't mean sirf sex karna, bikini pehna , alcohol Pina.. Oh my god.. aurat k life in saari cheezo se kafi large and agey hain.. self love also doesn't mean mustarbation only. Self-love means khudko samajhna, khudko praise karna, encourage karna, khud k sath time spent karna, heal hona andar se etc.. and short dress pehna hi smart nhi hain aur na saree , salwar pehna sirf old fashion ya behenji hain..dress colour ye to har kisiko apni choice hain.. dress apni jagah aur thoughts apni jagah... I didn't say that jo ladkiaya chhote kapre pehente hain wo unsanskari hain.. Lekin sex daru, bikini hi aurat ki zindagi nhi hoti ... Is ke alawa bhi humari life me bohut saari cheeze hain.. wo bhi kripaya dikhaya kare film o me .
You should understand from where this mindset is coming... All these years Females are asked to live a life based on pre-set standard.. aka _Sati-Savitri_ ... no one communicated what SHE wants... thus, in order to oppose those norms... these things pops up... P.S. -Don't get me wrong.. I am not trying to justify such behavior.. I myself follow rules.. I Don't wear short clothes.. I Don't drink/smoke because I am Health conscious person and my family doesn't allow me to have bf.. so I m living happily single life (without guilt) past 29 years.. But.. but.. but.. I Don't like this categorization.. if u drink/smoke.. have affairs or wear short clothes--> UN-SANSKARI Bad women_ However, Men are considered COOL for drinking/smoking alot of behaviors like having multiple Affairs or late night party are ignored on "Boys will be Boys" quote..
Talking about sexx and orgasm of women is also important. Because men and women's body are different and thats true that many women might be frustrated for not having fullfilled life. men would go to prostitute because he's not satisfied with his wife yet nobody points finger at them. But when women does it, suddenly its a problem.
@@quizuditabro I think this statement is somewhat right and somewhere wrong. If a women has some problem about how she feels for example in her sex life she should to talk to her respective partner but what's their to make a film about it? It's just unnecessary. And people who consider wearing short clothes and drinking alcohol etc for girls Un - sanskari are the people who do not come from our generation and didn't have much exposure. Nowadays girls also toh take it a lot more further na in the name of feminism and all. For ex- that metro girl. I am not justifying ki mat pehno chote kapde . Its just ki nobody is perfect .
@@quizuditabro I think this statement is somewhat right and somewhere wrong. If a women has some problem about how she feels for example in her sex life she should to talk to her respective partner but what's their to make a film about it? It's just unnecessary. And people who consider wearing short clothes and drinking alcohol etc for girls Un - sanskari are the people who do not come from our generation and didn't have much exposure. Nowadays girls also toh take it a lot more further na in the name of feminism and all. For ex- that metro girl. I am not justifying ki mat pehno chote kapde . Its just ki nobody is perfect .
A few years ago, we wanted women to know that it was okay for you to party, wear comfortable clothes, or express your opinion. We now have to explain to them (especially to cinema girls) that going out does not equate to having sex, dressing comfortably does not equate to wearing a bra on special occasions, and voicing your opinions does not equate to constant discussion of feminism and misogyny. We, as women, don't have to tell the world that, see, that's how I am living; I am partying, and I can wear whatever I want. Simply put, live, and stop talking. When it comes to providing answers, we regular people are undoubtedly smarter than this Bollywood and more open-minded. btw love the video 🤗
How ironic, Bhomi’s first film was actually to some extent changing the narration that was a good film tackling misogyny and patriarchy but this is pure garbage.
I'm so proud of you girl!! You don't encourage nonsense things and speak what is right. Nowadays all movies and web series want to tell how drinking n going to pubs late nights is "one and only way to have fun". I hope it doesn't increase cz its really bad for the youth .
Imagine a guy blaming a bunch of girls he slept with for his lack of concentration and satisfaction of orgasm and erotic problems and shaming women shamelessly on their gender😂 creepy na ye movie bas gender opposite hai 👍
When I saw jawan I loved the way they showed the women in the movie. Not because they were fighting or doing action but the way their character was written. None of the victimed girls asked for sympathy but rather fought for the betterment of other victim people. Thats what true women empowerment is.
exactly, even Deepika's character was shown as strong and not a woman who lost her family not even single women are shown weak or stereotyped versions of women
Basically this movie trying to manipulate young and teenage girls by proving the point that orgasm is more and more important than how your partner is behaving with you, how much he prioritize and respect you in relationship and how much satisfaction he gives in bed. On social media girls are craving for old school romance and flirting from their partners but nowadays in movies they just prioritizing intimacy scenes for main characters. Shehnaaz also now getting objectified. They basically used her and other influencers' fame in this movie to get audiance. I hope they realize where they are wrong and why this movie get flop.❤
Bhumi herself was a part of the movie Pati Patni aur woh where the movies justified in many scenes that a man can have an affair outside the marriage..they even compared the husband with PRABHU SRI RAM and had marital r***e joke in it...That was the real mysogyny..Also in Thank you for Coming trailer they made fun of cheating ( it was Bhumi's engagement and she slept with an unknown guy ) and lack of consent (she was literally intoxicated while having s**x)..If they genuinely wanted to normalise female pleasure they can make it as a serious topic but they are just selling it in the name of s** and Wokism..
I liked you used the correct word Wokism.. ppl are connecting it with feminism... Just because it's main character ≠ feminism... It is mostly based on Orgasm ..
@@quizudita they are using the name of feminism in promotions to promote this and that's the main problem...If a women is not getting se**ual pleasure in a relationship there is nothing wrong in discussing it in a movie...But to give one message why are they promoting other wrong messages like justifying cheating,lack of consent etc..Same problem Was in Lust Stories Kiara Advani episode..As a women I never found that episode empowering..Why Vicky Kausal's character was shown as dumb in the movie..She never talked with him about her physical needs and the movie was making of Vicky's Erectile dysfunction even though it is a physical problem which can affect a person's self esteem..Many reviewers called that episode empowering don't know how..I don't think female Orga** should be a taboo topic but the film makers are not sensible enough to make a proper movie about it... their intentions are just to sell it through bold scenes, but with a rapper of feminism..
Yes you are correct... Being woman... I don't understand to explain feminism why Bollywood always has to show party , drinks culture... That's is not wrong but there are so many aspects of feminism.... Every this type of movies has such concepts ... This gets very wrong perspective about female as well as about society ... 😅
They will never portray hindu goddesses as icon. Coz it doesn't suits their narrative. People don't like feminism not because what it mean, but how these so called feminist icons conducts themselves and preach.
And being independent to wear whatever she wants is also empowerment in short do you even know how big is feminism tujhe jo lagta h chaar sabdo me nipta degi
What world are you living in ?? They are women who are financially successful independent still need permission to were curtain tyoe of clothes even forced to get married forced to listen to your husband behave like sati savitri no matter how much independent you get you still be in control
@@anushnakar6288 exactly ager isko feminist and empowerment bole ge than jo log bharat ko international level pe represent krte hai and jo arm forces mai hai unko kya bole ge.?
The thing is extreme of everything is bad be that feminism.. ye log feminism ko kuch alg way mein leke jaate hai that has no sense aur phir log bolte hai feminism is toxic because of people and movies like these .. thoda toh sense hona chahiye kisi bhi cheez kaa …
This movie is related to Orgasm (taboo topic) which is imp for both the genders.. it is written from the lens of a unsatisfied 30+ lady... Just because it's main character ≠ feminism... Stop equating things senselessly... a good movie on s3x was OMG2.. more mature portrayal...
if they only focused on womens orgasm without all the intoxication then it would be better. They have the biggest misconception that ONLY a woman who drinks smokes dates multiple people can relate to the topic of orgasm. Drinking/smoking has nothing to do with the natural process of orgasm.
Okay so as a girl, loving myself does not require me to drink alcohol also wearing short clothes is not equal to woman empowerment. I believe Indian culture is is so beautiful and protects us from many hard things no doubt some things need to change for the good but over all it is just absurd, women should now really see what they are being potrayed as
But people who want to do all these things are also free to that. If that's not your choice it doesnt mean someone else can't find happiness in that. Ik drinking is not good, but some people are that way nd its their life, nd the movie is about not being judged for being yourself. A man is not questioned on his character for drinking so why are women being judged? That's the point. Its about having empowerment to live it your way whether you are a girl or boy as simple as that.
@@oktarababy empowering and drinking are not equal, it can never be empowering you can say it this way that a woman who drinks is as normal as a male who drinks, basically nobody can question her character as she is has as equal rights as a man but empowerment is a whole different concept, woman empowerment can never include open consumption of drugs or alcohol, woman empowerment included educating women, paying them as equal as a man, not questioning their work status for being a mother.. yes drinking can give happiness to many but that is nothing to do with woman empowerment, you can drink and you can ask for equal freedom and equal right to not to be judged but honestly that doesnt help to woman empowerment
@@hakeemfatimah1819 i disagree cuz it is now termed as empowerment bcz women from a very long time were questioned on their characters for being as free as a man. We all know that very well. So at this point drinking openly which is not a very good thing to do but still is some people's choice, is included in the empowerment thing cuz women were deprived of that basic freedom. It was such a basic and common thing for man that raising this topic triggers them cuz this is not as important as "education" "equal pay" the big words. But just think, a right which is so basic for the other gender that they think its absurd to include it in women empowerment ,was snatched from them. Everyone fails to recognize that nd just shouting "education " this that. The main purpose is that only, the things that we think are unimportant should not go unheard. These are also real basic problems
@@oktarababy your statement is contradicting, "deprived of freedom" itself states that it is matter of rights nobody is saying do not do this but this is not a basic need basic need is something every woman would want not every woman finds happiness is consuming alcohol or partying in clubs it might give happiness to that particular woman but it doesn't help the idea of empowering women while on other hand education is a basic need, every woman wants to have an opportunity to become something and earn herself some bread , empowerment is a movement for all women which means one woman can transmit power into another woman to fight for herself, when a company pays a woman equal to man another woman can go and question her designated company to do same, please do not mix women empowerment with social evils, what you are talking about is problem of society some might question you for drinking , some might ignore you it varries so it is a matter of freedom as a human not something every woman asks for
Man muslim girls are always on point about modesty they never indulge in immoral activities in the name of feminism . They are so pious and traditional and always respect their family and religion unlike our hindu girls who can justify anything in the name of feminism and always abuse hinduism for sounding cool . Muslims girls are queens .
@@Susah55555 better than this the actual consideration of side characters and their story went together also main lead has baggage so there was a bit substance compared to this movie
Call me prude or close minded but I prefer movies that has little to no intimacy. There are other ways to potray love between character ways to convey emotion beyond being naked
Now some shehnaaz gill fans will definitely bash me but recently in one of her interview she said it's okay to be fat.. What matters is your confidence ... Are we really normalizing obesity now? Edited : I'm not body shaming anyone being healthy is completely fine .. My question is if she speaks about being fat is completely fine then why did she loose weight??? She is an influencer who needs to know about what is she preaching the youth...
Exactly. Shehnaaz ne to ye sirf bola. There are many Indian so called influencers jo insta pe actually normalise karna shuru kar chuki hai. Or rahi bat shehnaaz ki to usko pick me syndrome hai..bas sabka favourite ban na hai usko isliye faltu ki batein.
Nd the irony is she starve herself to get perfect size and advocate about abesity.. see.. being healthy is the goal rather than fat or skinny if you are healthy as far as that obesity doesn’t matter!
Sehnaz was also fat once but she was confident enough in Bigg boss Now she has lose weight so I don't think she is promoting obesity in any form . India mai koi thoda bhi healthy hay naa usko bhi fat boltey hain log...
Carrying 5-10 kgs extra body weight is okay.. if you are fit and Healthy... But Obesity cannot be justified... _P.S. I once weighed 113kgs and I lost about 32 kgs till date (Healthy Weight Loss takes time.. one shouldn'tgo for silly diet plans)..._ Obesity is Definitely Bad.. and Having 6 packs ≠ Healthy.. in fact most of the influencers/celebrities STARVE to achieve this.. I'll blame Movie Industry for UNREALISTIC BODY STANDARDS ... which has affected Everyone... Actresses creates Fake body Image.. which in turn develops body image issues among teenage girls...
Perfect explanation... Also, the point that you mentioned... Learning together and giving time to let the other one keep up and learn, at times, are very important aspects of relationship... And, this particular thing isn't there in the Western Culture...
Your description reminds me of the situation Veere Di Wedding created. I don't know how people do the same mistake again and again. If Indian audience was uncomfortable with such topics, then movies like Lipstick under my Burkha and just recently OMG2 would have never garnered such appreciation. If they make such woke misandrist movies, they will surely get backlash. These films don't make any real difference.
@@vinnienanda Sorry for not writing properly. The movie in a way boasts of talking about a taboo topic and sex education is also a taboo topic That's why I a compared it.
In one sentence she's saying love yourself and other moment she said daro piyo when it's dangerous to human health I mean loving yourself doesn't mean Killin yourself
3:20 You asked the right query girl....I am so proud of you for asking the right question....these women like bhumi, rhea, ekta .....they are so delusional , they dont know the exact meaning of feminism. And Bhumi was being absolutely illogical....like they just dont want to understand the basic aspects of women empowerment. And here we have spill bee, always spilling beautifully n logically, which makes it all the more beautiful. Also, your voice is so serene.
Beautifully explained. 🌸 it is sad to see an actress like Bhumi Pednekar, of a much higher caliber than many others in the industry putting forth such vague comments, lacking depth. It seems more like a downgrade at this point.
If anyone wants to watch a movie focusing on such topics, go and watch OMG 2. It has a great storyline which is both fun and educational. Idk why i was late in watching this movie.
This is super bad thing!! How does promotion connects with Facebook this is a absolute crap reason! I think the producers and directors were just out of there mind 😂😂😂
As a Man, This is what we need from a woman. This video I'm sharing to all my female friends and colleagues. Why blaming mens for each and everything. Thanks The Spill Bee for making this vid. ❤ Like your point on discuss with partner instead of going on public to share those issues with speakers
I watched this movie as we planned a girls day out and there was some offer going on at inox...and this movie gave a headache so bad that I had to have medicine and 3 cups of chai to get over it...and I have developed a liking for veere di wedding after this
Don't link feminism with it... The movie was supposed to be about orgasm... something that is a need for both men and women. It's a taboo topic bss present thik se nhi kar paaye. Yha ek woman ke point of view se dikhaya hai. A better representation of something like that is in OMG 2 and that film portrayed it more seriously and maturely. Feminism has nothing to do with it so please don't use it for this movie because this movie is nothing but just nonsense.
@@albatross_007 that's what I'm talking about if you watch there interviews there are linking the filming with feminism and even in the movie they are low key degrading men...
You are exactly right, times have changed and people are not relying on mainstream media for facts. Wish you a happy new year & may this year bring you more growth.
The way few women have shaded feminism, that's so tragic. I mean how wearing nothing, smoking and all is empowering and helping anyone to know themselves. Like how? Not even a single brain cell is used while giving those comments.
My opinion on having multiple sensual partners: We as humans all crave for emotional intimacy and yeah it can be achieved through touch to an extent. But the base of it is trust. And there’s in no way any person could trust someone who has multiple partners. And lemme say it again it’s not a taboo and you do you but there is a lot of mental health issues that comes along with unstable emotional connections.
I don’t understand why we have to tear down the opposite gender in order to feel “empowered”. Not all men are perfect just like not all women are . Let’s try to be more empathetic with each other and get through this life. This is getting tiresome now .
I wish they should have shown problems women actually face when topics like sex and intimacy come becoz in india there is a male ego if a women is not satisfied she is afraid to question her partner becoz she fears that it will hurt his ego which is a truth they should have shown this kind of storyline jisme actually mai koe ladkio sexually koe problem face kar rhi ho or wo gynecologist ko visit kre ya fr kuch esi story k uska partner or wo communicate karke isko solve kre or ladkio ko y sikhaye k they can ask to there husband if they r not satisfied and they should discuss about each other desires....but they just show daru party sex which is wrong chahe wo ladka kre ya ladki it is cheap to be honest ....unhone acha khasa topic bekr kr dia
Exactly..I also feel the same..few girls are saying it is a women empowerment but I had not watched this movie as I'm not a movie person but I heard about this movie and I always watch your content. My opinion is the same, being a biologist I also conduct many lectures and make many students aware about reproduction and reproductive health in a very clear manner without hesitation but as they are portraying this is not the correct way they are misguiding people who are not well aware..I feel our indian culture is teaching a good way of living, and our culture never taught about degrading women.
I agree with your points...movies like thank you for coming and veere di wedding instead of empowering women actually is a setback for woman empowerment...its because of these films people find it easy to misinterpret feminism... But i would like to point out something too...mysogyny is real and partriarchy is badly embedded in both men and women of our society...i know a lot of men who are so egoistic will not even talk about this topic with their female partner..if the wife is facing such a dissatisfaction...and express it honestly they will simply take it to their ego and become angry...there are men who will not allow their woman to use a lube even after seeing her pain coz somehow her using a lube will hurt his male ego ....yes i do believe in not generalising any gender but there is this side of the coin too and its real bad
Very well said......the crap that is being served is crazy.......boozing n smoking, cheating is freedom.......focus is more on sex, than love.......Nothing is being said about career, character or fidelity......imagine the impact it will have on young girls......... Don't such women have fathers or brothers........😂
How Orgasm is related to Women Empowerment or Partying to Self Love. Downright idiotic. Riya Kapoor I dont why she comes up with such stupid concepts. She really needs to check ground reality in order to make good women empowering movies or series. Spill Bee as usual thank you for your unbiased opinions. Sending you more love 🥰
4:09 reminds me of one street interview, where the woman who was interviewed, told the interviewer that his thinking is very misogynistic. When he asked her whats its meaning she couldn't answer, she even asked her friend about the meaning. It was embarrasing. Similarly if you ask this celebrities and director whats the meaning of self love, misogynistic, feminism. You'll get idiotic answer.
Even Indiam audience would appreciate this kind of content but on one condition the content should be good not shitty like Thank you for coming. Matlab kuch bhi
I feel Dhak Dhak starring Sanjana Sanghi, Ratna Pathak Shah, Fatima Sana Shaikh, and Dia Mirza is the kind of Feminist movie I gravitate towards. Recently I watched a Pakistani film named Joyride. And the way they had handled & depicted feminism, story of a transgender in love with a gay man was so beautiful! ❤ Sexual & emotional intimacy does matter. And there is no issue in talking about orgasm from a woman’s POV. But the main issue I have with these kinda movies claiming to be about revolution & feminism is that they only look at it from the perspective of a particular class of women. And they only touch the topic on a surface level. And then glamourise it with rebellion, fashion, partying, rudeness. There are lotsa other things that women look for when they say they need “freedom”. Bhumi’s Dolly & Kitty aur Chamaktey Sitaare was a better film than this one, Veere di Wedding, Four More shots and other Ekkta Kapoor “women centric films”. I feel women with power and money are taking the same route as their male counterparts, only by disguising their efforts under the blanket of feminism. Swara Bhasker’s attitude changed after Veere di Wedding & it did affect her career in some ways. I hope Bhumi doesn’t walk on the same path.
Her character was literally the most toxic person in the whole movie. Objectified all the men, used my man Jivan (who is the real protagonist lets be real), and shoved her drama into the lives of everyone around her and then proceeded to blame the men in her life for her actions. Then coming out and waxing philosophical really doesn't sit well, as if that's what a woman being free is about.
In this movie, they are talking about being open minded and all still they are not talking to their partners about their sex life. Bhyi jab itni independent aur open minded ban rhi ho to apne partner se discuss kro na ki he is not satisfying you. Agar ye movie ladkon ke baare me hoti to ye fake feminists bawal kr deti unhe hawasi aur pta nhi kya kya bolke. The thing is that just communicate with your partner whatever you feel instead of telling your friends about it and making fun of your partner in front of them.
Wow amazing video. You did great job at educating on this topic than this whole movie. Also Bhumi is delusional. On some level I think she knows the corrupt theme they r trying to sell relying on dumbness of audience but it’s backfiring on their faces. It’s total non sense. N I totally agree with you spill bee.
What if i dont want to drink and go out in clubs. This movies are not motivating but manipulating jisko lgta hai ki use ye sab ni pasand vo bhi manipulate ho jae
I don't understand why this elitist directors of Bollywood think that a woman having fun is always related to drinking, partying, talking about sex all the time, using abusive words, running away from their years long relationship and falling in love with a random person after just two days of meeting. That is the plot of basically every so called women empowerment movie made by this elitist directors. Their movies shows that how much they are indifferent or ignorant abt the Indian society and common women's conditions, problems and position in our society.
Bhumi Pednekar is an amazing actress, her acting skills in Bala, Toilet - ek Prem Katha, Pati Patni or Woh is top notch, dk why she is degrading herself down by doing such low-grade movies, from doing best of the best storyline movies to now these crap movies, feels like she too has got completely brainwashed and carried away by the so called "glamour world" :(
Loving yourself doesn't mean to go party, and self satisfaction doesn't mean having orgasam, and masturbating. There is a lot more to teach the teenagers and the youth, these people only think that wearing western clothes and partying and drinking and smoking are cool and modern and loving yourself. Nope these kind of Films gives wrong information to the young generation.
When i went to theatre with my family and this movie trailer came up. I was really embarrassed. Not because of the topic but because the way they presented it. They were talking as if women having orgasm with multiple men, smoking, partying, bla bla..is normal and this way only she can figure herself out. Like seriously girl..!! I don't know what Gen Z will be learning out of this. I think self touch, knowledge, spirituality, self connection, isolation is a NICE way to discover yourself. This is not a message on orgasm instead normalising multiple sex, drinking, and all the negative stuff. They are telling women that you can have as much partners you want just to discover your orgasmic strength.. Like dude.! you are insulting other real #Feminists.. I would appreciate "The Lust stories" about how they have really presented orgasm topic without overdoing the reality. 🌟
thankyou boht accha bole aap didi aisa kuch mai bhi sochta hoon par keh nahi pata aur jab words aate hai to lagta hai ki mai kahi kuch galt to nahi keh rha
I am Scientist. working in Ireland since last five years. After watching this movie, i felt ashamed on Rhea kapoor who is promoting fake feminism. Even in western society noone likes or respects sleeping with random. They need to redefine their women empowerment theory. If ese hota woman empowerment mai bina empowerment k hi achi.. worst movie
Aajkal pseudo feminism ka fashion chal rha he....aur bollywood to gutter k alawa kuch bnata hi nhi..... bollywood khud women ko stereotype krta he or audience ko bolta he ki indian audience narrow minded he....indian audience is smart enough to judge which movie is good or bad
Exactly Sexually satisfy ni ho Discuss with your partner Ya tab tak bande change kre to jab tak satify na ho? Banda aisa kre to tharki, charachterless to use bhi bolte hain, arrange marriage me agar tum womaniser famous ho to dikkat to tumhe bhi hogi Ladki ko zyada backlash milega i agree But that doesn't change the fact that both are wrong Koi sense hai What about love? Aur ye kya 90% ladko ko satify krna ni aata Matlab wo pehle se practice kiya hua ho Are you serious? Do people listen themselves while taking?
I feel like we have so many films and web series regarding these stuff now people know about them and don't need another movie to explain all over again
What such movies forget is that wearing short dresses, partying all night , having phy relationship with anyone is not empowerment. A women in a saree, or suit can also be empowered without changing the way they dress or their lifestyle. a homemaker or a working women both can be strong and independent. Yess people should not blame/judge women when they party..but this not what women empowerment stands for ..it simply means a woman should also get same respect same opportunities same acceptance and appreciation that a man gets.
In India, it looks like the concept of freedom and liberation is having sex, drinking, substance use, and these things, and that's why they backfire. It's not wrong to show these things in movies/shows, but it should add something to the storyline. Also, I heard that the West is tired of such unnecessary vulgarity in media, and no doubt why The Idol flopped so bad. Half of that show is just sex and drugs, and it added nothing to the plot.
I watched that movie and just felt disgusted. I am a modern woman who believe is equal opportunity and rights but this movie was not about any of it. And what they wanted to promote,that 14-15 year olds should focus on having sex than focusing on their studies or future career.
What excellent observation and explanation you gave #Spill_Bee 🔥🔥🔥 just mind-blowing. Exactly what I was thinking of, but you explained it so appropriately 🤩
The substance of the film is 👉: 1️⃣ If you are not getting satisfaction from your partner and getting orgasm by yourself then you don't need to marry someone just to fulfill social criteria. 2️⃣And the second is almost all the people gets intimate with their partners sometimes. It's totally ok. The people who captures private moments and makes it viral, they are the culprit. And if you are in such situation you don't need to feel guilty or ashemed. Hold your confidence. Yes there are some problematic statements too. But overall this is the main massages of the film.
Call me old school but I still prefer movies like veer zara,guru,vivah,swades,anwar where the love story is so pure but there is absolutely no vulgarity or unnecessary intimate scenes. I think it brings the best form of love bwn lovers practiced in our culture.
I hate it when people become so arrogant and egoistic that any criticism is Gaslighted by calling it misogynistic or mansplaing and its always everyone's else fault but there's...
when "feminism" became mainstream and we started talking more about it i was so elated that i could be a part of something that talks about equality in genders and breaking harmful notions that harm us as individual, harm us as society. But time progessed the actual meaning of "feminism" has twisted in such an extent that i'd rather go and call myself "old fashioned" in so many ways instead of justifying the woke sentiments labeled as feminism. Yes woman can party, can wear short dresses, can have seggs, can live alone and can do anything they wished to but all those seggsual liberation doesn't signify what "freedom" means. if you can do those things that means you are already in a place of priviledge to even think about this, where we live in a world where some girls/women fight for basic education and opportunities. So by achieving an orgasm or not wearing bra or not shaving your pits got nothing to do with "feminism" that 's an individual choice to wear a bra or not, to shave your pits or not. You shouldn't blame the society for everything lol. Society also tells you to be a good human & helo others but how many of us do so? also about achieving orgasm god just because you didn't get from one partner you should switch to someone else? how about trusting each other talking with other about limits and exploring to see what two people can achieve in seggsual satisfaction? par nahi apne ko toh bas 100 sexual partners banane hai fir koi kuch bole toh feminist ban jayenge. I'm tired with bollywood making films on "women empowerment, feminism" when it only benefits the narrative of seggs & seggsual freedom. this movies are nothing but a waste of time i can definitely say the opinions and views these actors are projecting while promoting the films are actually harming the women in the society in the world. Shashi Godbole from English Vinglish, Rani from Queen, Sulochana from Tumhari Sulu are just some names that shows the women empowerment in true sense. And i'm not saying making movies about seggs is wrong but the way it is presented towards a certain section of people only to make them think this is the feminism they should want is so cringe Everything about feminism is seggs then about asexual person? what should they do? 🙄
Smoking sex is all personal choice but but it shouldn't be glorified at a mass youth ko isse be zayada disri chizzo e diyan dene k zarurat h .its doesnt show case feminism at all .its beyond that independent financially morally being a good women embracing ourselves is what is all about
theme was good, very poorly executed. second , idc about rest girls which are creators but WHY BHOOMI? same theme with different director would have done wonders. rhea kapoor has ZERO vision to execute sensitive topics.
Idk about this film but if they want to make it about self love... Then they have to show different women living different lifestyle and their different meaning of self love... One is happy being housewife , one is happy in her business or job, one is happy in her hobbies, helping others and one is happy in socialising, party, trips.... Women empowerment is not just you wear short clothes, alcohol , sex and talking rubbish about boys.... Ye to naa women empowerment h naa men empowerment ... Is not bad to do this things but there is limit , balance...
Masturbation is not self love. Human has a nature of finding a lovable partner. But in life we came across many instances where we make wrong decisions, wrong choices sometimes people used us and sometimes we fell in a toxic situation. Self love means to love and forgive yourself in such situations as you forgive your loved ones. Take care of yourself, saying "it's ok i was innocent, i didn't know, and moved on" self love teaches us not to ruin our lives over constantly regretting not to ruin our life by physically or emotionally killing ourselves. Love yourself first , so if you're in a toxic or abusive situations/ relationships you have the courage get out of it. Self love means not to let anyone or even yourself harm you. You are precious. ❤
Okey all i can say is when shenaz gill was in Big boss Salman Khan said sehnaz tum boht agy jaogy agr tum ne apny famous ko achy se use kya after that muje ek bat samjh agye sehnaz ne ek boht thin line thi wo cross kar de and now no once likes her even i was a biggest fan of her now whenever she came to screen mae screen ko he scroll kar deti hn she lost all her innocence and being so irretate 😊
Although I am a gay guy, but even I find it very disrespectful when some straight girls say that "90% of the mardo ko karna hi nhi aata". It's really disrespectful to the entirety of men. Just imagine if the opposite has been said in today's time the kind of Havoc it would have created.
They do say. India mein sex kbhi villainise nhi kiya gya tha jitna ab Kiya jata and boom see the result chote chote bacche porn addict horhe kyuki logo ko normal sex education Dena konsa cultural destruction rakhta. Simple hain sex is two sides, both should communicate but humne itna villainise kr rakha hain ki puchna hi nhi chahte ek dusre se ki kya chaiye expectation kya hain.
6:05 exactly 😊😊❤❤...samne wale se baithkk bat karne se bahut sari chize thik ho jati hai bas aapko apni bat rkhni aani chahiye aur aajakl ke ladke bhi kafi hadd tak educated hai vo aapki bat ko samjh jayenge , lekin akdum se sara blem un par dal dena sahi nhi hai ..😊😊 Aur inkk muh women power ke nam pe sirf daru pina party karna inhi chizo ke liye khulta hai , yrr daru pina kha se aapko power dega bta do ...ye bolna chahiye ki aadmi aur aurat dono ko hi nhi pina chahiye health ke liye achha nhi hai , to nhi ladke pii skte hai to hum bhi piye gf ye kha ka logic hai 😂😂😂😂😂...aur ha mai ak ladki hoke bol rhi hu ye sab 😊😊..
Wow, Good video. I haven't watched this movie, but i wonder how talking about orgasm, degrading men is considered women empowerment or FEMINISM. No doubt From centuries women have been shut at so so many level so I agree speaking up openly is important, but there is a way. Promoting sexual education amongst boys and girls, healthy conversations on topics like orgasm etc should be done in a responsible way. Saying NO to objectifying roles/songs is what actresses should promote instead. Also I feel the reason why bikinis, alcohol and abusive language is shown in women centric film is because people still make a big issue out of it whereas Shirtless men, men in the bars, men having drugs or smoking in the movies is not even questioned. In that case veere di wedding movie was somewhat balanced and appreciated
There is a temple in India with all sculpture doing all poses having sex, also in India kamasutra long time ago was written, but audience is conservative they can't as a family watch sex, nudity onscreen so filmmakers need to consider if they want wider audience please don't show sex and nudity. Simple right?
Queen , english Vinglish and piku will forever be the true meaning of women empowerment
Very true Mam!!!
True
Yess
Dangal and secret superstar also
Mary kom is also for women empowerment..
As a woman, i feel second hand embarassment from bhumis definition of empowerment. Its true money cant buy class.
That embarrassment is REAL !!
Exactly
I am also a phd scholar in english literature ,working as an assistant professor ..as a woman for me...drinking and going to parties is not feminism..being independent ,financially stable ..loving passionately ...study ..and taking care of my family ..is the real feminism...what nonsense is getting drunk like fool ..and sleep with anybody you come across..its only spoiling our youth
FINALLY❤❤❤❤ WE NEEDED AN INTELLECTUAL OPINION❤ THANK YOU MA'AM. WE NEED MORE SCHOLARS LIKE YOU
I agree mam ❤
There's nothing wrong to drink or smoke or doing party if it's individual's choice ,, but it's not the meaning of feminism at all .. ⚠️ not encouraging these activities though
@@ananyapramanick5325 exactly ..
Hahah!! I choose the other way around.. I love to experiment and explore.. it's wrong to say that it's not real feminism.. femininity is what a female is, the energy she exudes and the grace with which she carries herself.. we are defining things which is great!!
Empowering women doesn't mean sirf sex karna, bikini pehna , alcohol Pina.. Oh my god.. aurat k life in saari cheezo se kafi large and agey hain.. self love also doesn't mean mustarbation only. Self-love means khudko samajhna, khudko praise karna, encourage karna, khud k sath time spent karna, heal hona andar se etc.. and short dress pehna hi smart nhi hain aur na saree , salwar pehna sirf old fashion ya behenji hain..dress colour ye to har kisiko apni choice hain.. dress apni jagah aur thoughts apni jagah... I didn't say that jo ladkiaya chhote kapre pehente hain wo unsanskari hain.. Lekin sex daru, bikini hi aurat ki zindagi nhi hoti ... Is ke alawa bhi humari life me bohut saari cheeze hain.. wo bhi kripaya dikhaya kare film o me .
You should understand from where this mindset is coming...
All these years Females are asked to live a life based on pre-set standard.. aka _Sati-Savitri_ ... no one communicated what SHE wants... thus, in order to oppose those norms... these things pops up...
P.S. -Don't get me wrong.. I am not trying to justify such behavior.. I myself follow rules.. I Don't wear short clothes.. I Don't drink/smoke because I am Health conscious person and my family doesn't allow me to have bf.. so I m living happily single life (without guilt) past 29 years.. But.. but.. but.. I Don't like this categorization.. if u drink/smoke.. have affairs or wear short clothes--> UN-SANSKARI Bad women_
However, Men are considered COOL for drinking/smoking
alot of behaviors like having multiple Affairs or late night party are ignored on "Boys will be Boys" quote..
@@quizuditamature reply.
Talking about sexx and orgasm of women is also important. Because men and women's body are different and thats true that many women might be frustrated for not having fullfilled life.
men would go to prostitute because he's not satisfied with his wife yet nobody points finger at them. But when women does it, suddenly its a problem.
@@quizuditabro I think this statement is somewhat right and somewhere wrong. If a women has some problem about how she feels for example in her sex life she should to talk to her respective partner but what's their to make a film about it? It's just unnecessary. And people who consider wearing short clothes and drinking alcohol etc for girls Un - sanskari are the people who do not come from our generation and didn't have much exposure. Nowadays girls also toh take it a lot more further na in the name of feminism and all. For ex- that metro girl. I am not justifying ki mat pehno chote kapde . Its just ki nobody is perfect .
@@quizuditabro I think this statement is somewhat right and somewhere wrong. If a women has some problem about how she feels for example in her sex life she should to talk to her respective partner but what's their to make a film about it? It's just unnecessary. And people who consider wearing short clothes and drinking alcohol etc for girls Un - sanskari are the people who do not come from our generation and didn't have much exposure. Nowadays girls also toh take it a lot more further na in the name of feminism and all. For ex- that metro girl. I am not justifying ki mat pehno chote kapde . Its just ki nobody is perfect .
A few years ago, we wanted women to know that it was okay for you to party, wear comfortable clothes, or express your opinion. We now have to explain to them (especially to cinema girls) that going out does not equate to having sex, dressing comfortably does not equate to wearing a bra on special occasions, and voicing your opinions does not equate to constant discussion of feminism and misogyny. We, as women, don't have to tell the world that, see, that's how I am living; I am partying, and I can wear whatever I want. Simply put, live, and stop talking. When it comes to providing answers, we regular people are undoubtedly smarter than this Bollywood and more open-minded. btw love the video 🤗
Also Bhumi's obsession to be in the middle during every single promotional event was soooo soooooo annoying
Yes I m permanently annoyed by Bhumi now 😅
I hate her.
It looks like she’s the tallest of them and the other members are shortest and if so, that makes sense why she’s in the middle constantly
@@elithluxe7568 dolly is the tallest amongst them
She just wanted to tell everybody that she's the main lead of this flop film that is it
How ironic, Bhomi’s first film was actually to some extent changing the narration that was a good film tackling misogyny and patriarchy but this is pure garbage.
I'm so proud of you girl!! You don't encourage nonsense things and speak what is right. Nowadays all movies and web series want to tell how drinking n going to pubs late nights is "one and only way to have fun". I hope it doesn't increase cz its really bad for the youth .
So true
Imagine a guy blaming a bunch of girls he slept with for his lack of concentration and satisfaction of orgasm and erotic problems and shaming women shamelessly on their gender😂 creepy na ye movie bas gender opposite hai 👍
Most men just wants sx they don't have so much expectations as long as girl is beautiful.😂yk this truth.
Soo true
Ekdum sahi😂
@@sainiharika 🙏🏼😁
@@Muskansingh_07 i appreciate 🙏🏼😁
When I saw jawan I loved the way they showed the women in the movie. Not because they were fighting or doing action but the way their character was written. None of the victimed girls asked for sympathy but rather fought for the betterment of other victim people. Thats what true women empowerment is.
exactly, even Deepika's character was shown as strong and not a woman who lost her family
not even single women are shown weak or stereotyped versions of women
Monogamy is core value in our culture. I am not against polygamy...but it's not healthy having multiple partners.
True 👍
They even think std are healthy 😂😂
Polygamy seems unethical to me it's disgusting.
Basically this movie trying to manipulate young and teenage girls by proving the point that orgasm is more and more important than how your partner is behaving with you, how much he prioritize and respect you in relationship and how much satisfaction he gives in bed. On social media girls are craving for old school romance and flirting from their partners but nowadays in movies they just prioritizing intimacy scenes for main characters. Shehnaaz also now getting objectified. They basically used her and other influencers' fame in this movie to get audiance. I hope they realize where they are wrong and why this movie get flop.❤
i agree with u instead of educating its doing a wrong job of potraying things☹️
But shouldn't both the partners care for each other's pleasure? If you are indulging in intimacy?
@@unknownperseit actually depends on how u communicate with ur partner. Not all of us can exp it in the same way.
Bhumi herself was a part of the movie Pati Patni aur woh where the movies justified in many scenes that a man can have an affair outside the marriage..they even compared the husband with PRABHU SRI RAM and had marital r***e joke in it...That was the real mysogyny..Also in Thank you for Coming trailer they made fun of cheating ( it was Bhumi's engagement and she slept with an unknown guy ) and lack of consent (she was literally intoxicated while having s**x)..If they genuinely wanted to normalise female pleasure they can make it as a serious topic but they are just selling it in the name of s** and Wokism..
I liked you used the correct word Wokism.. ppl are connecting it with feminism...
Just because it's main character ≠ feminism...
It is mostly based on Orgasm ..
@@quizudita they are using the name of feminism in promotions to promote this and that's the main problem...If a women is not getting se**ual pleasure in a relationship there is nothing wrong in discussing it in a movie...But to give one message why are they promoting other wrong messages like justifying cheating,lack of consent etc..Same problem Was in Lust Stories Kiara Advani episode..As a women I never found that episode empowering..Why Vicky Kausal's character was shown as dumb in the movie..She never talked with him about her physical needs and the movie was making of Vicky's Erectile dysfunction even though it is a physical problem which can affect a person's self esteem..Many reviewers called that episode empowering don't know how..I don't think female Orga** should be a taboo topic but the film makers are not sensible enough to make a proper movie about it... their intentions are just to sell it through bold scenes, but with a rapper of feminism..
Yes you are correct... Being woman... I don't understand to explain feminism why Bollywood always has to show party , drinks culture... That's is not wrong but there are so many aspects of feminism.... Every this type of movies has such concepts ... This gets very wrong perspective about female as well as about society ... 😅
They will never portray hindu goddesses as icon. Coz it doesn't suits their narrative. People don't like feminism not because what it mean, but how these so called feminist icons conducts themselves and preach.
Bcs these r written by wannabe Hollywood. Who mindlessly copy American media without even thinking for once.
Empowering means being independent importantly financially, being educated and being able to speak out for yourself when you are not being listened.
And being independent to wear whatever she wants is also empowerment in short do you even know how big is feminism tujhe jo lagta h chaar sabdo me nipta degi
What world are you living in ?? They are women who are financially successful independent still need permission to were curtain tyoe of clothes even forced to get married forced to listen to your husband behave like sati savitri no matter how much independent you get you still be in control
@@sumanpriyadarshini6585For god sake learn something about sati - savitri before demeaning her name .
@@usersjifxvjxfhvlmao nah
@@usersjifxvjxfhv💯
It's funny how these days smoking, drinking, partying, having multiple sexual partners, sexualizing themselves is considered EMPOWERING!!!
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Aj kal empowering women and feminist ka meaning he alag ho gaya hai.. 🙂
Yes sis it means showing more skin , bashing men, alcohol, talking vulgar.
@@shrishtishukla4149Wahi na I don’t understand how this is feminism?
@@anushnakar6288 exactly ager isko feminist and empowerment bole ge than jo log bharat ko international level pe represent krte hai and jo arm forces mai hai unko kya bole ge.?
@@shrishtishukla4149Equal right bhartiyta me rhkr v diya ja skta hai ...uske liye american culture ko copy krne ki jarurat nhi hai
So true!🥺 why don't they understand that this is NOT feminism!
The thing is extreme of everything is bad be that feminism.. ye log feminism ko kuch alg way mein leke jaate hai that has no sense aur phir log bolte hai feminism is toxic because of people and movies like these .. thoda toh sense hona chahiye kisi bhi cheez kaa …
This movie is related to Orgasm (taboo topic) which is imp for both the genders.. it is written from the lens of a unsatisfied 30+ lady...
Just because it's main character ≠ feminism...
Stop equating things senselessly... a good movie on s3x was OMG2.. more mature portrayal...
if they only focused on womens orgasm without all the intoxication then it would be better. They have the biggest misconception that ONLY a woman who drinks smokes dates multiple people can relate to the topic of orgasm. Drinking/smoking has nothing to do with the natural process of orgasm.
That's my words
Okay so as a girl, loving myself does not require me to drink alcohol also wearing short clothes is not equal to woman empowerment. I believe Indian culture is is so beautiful and protects us from many hard things no doubt some things need to change for the good but over all it is just absurd, women should now really see what they are being potrayed as
But people who want to do all these things are also free to that. If that's not your choice it doesnt mean someone else can't find happiness in that. Ik drinking is not good, but some people are that way nd its their life, nd the movie is about not being judged for being yourself. A man is not questioned on his character for drinking so why are women being judged? That's the point. Its about having empowerment to live it your way whether you are a girl or boy as simple as that.
@@oktarababy empowering and drinking are not equal, it can never be empowering you can say it this way that a woman who drinks is as normal as a male who drinks, basically nobody can question her character as she is has as equal rights as a man but empowerment is a whole different concept, woman empowerment can never include open consumption of drugs or alcohol, woman empowerment included educating women, paying them as equal as a man, not questioning their work status for being a mother.. yes drinking can give happiness to many but that is nothing to do with woman empowerment, you can drink and you can ask for equal freedom and equal right to not to be judged but honestly that doesnt help to woman empowerment
@@hakeemfatimah1819 i disagree cuz it is now termed as empowerment bcz women from a very long time were questioned on their characters for being as free as a man. We all know that very well. So at this point drinking openly which is not a very good thing to do but still is some people's choice, is included in the empowerment thing cuz women were deprived of that basic freedom. It was such a basic and common thing for man that raising this topic triggers them cuz this is not as important as "education" "equal pay" the big words. But just think, a right which is so basic for the other gender that they think its absurd to include it in women empowerment ,was snatched from them. Everyone fails to recognize that nd just shouting "education " this that. The main purpose is that only, the things that we think are unimportant should not go unheard. These are also real basic problems
@@oktarababy your statement is contradicting, "deprived of freedom" itself states that it is matter of rights nobody is saying do not do this but this is not a basic need basic need is something every woman would want not every woman finds happiness is consuming alcohol or partying in clubs it might give happiness to that particular woman but it doesn't help the idea of empowering women while on other hand education is a basic need, every woman wants to have an opportunity to become something and earn herself some bread , empowerment is a movement for all women which means one woman can transmit power into another woman to fight for herself, when a company pays a woman equal to man another woman can go and question her designated company to do same, please do not mix women empowerment with social evils, what you are talking about is problem of society some might question you for drinking , some might ignore you it varries so it is a matter of freedom as a human not something every woman asks for
Man muslim girls are always on point about modesty they never indulge in immoral activities in the name of feminism . They are so pious and traditional and always respect their family and religion unlike our hindu girls who can justify anything in the name of feminism and always abuse hinduism for sounding cool . Muslims girls are queens .
When you realise veere di wedding was so much better 💀
No way
@@Susah55555 better than this the actual consideration of side characters and their story went together also main lead has baggage so there was a bit substance compared to this movie
actually
It was actually good. I never felt uncomfortable watching it, well aside from a particular scene that's all.
Wasn't it a remake?
Call me prude or close minded but I prefer movies that has little to no intimacy. There are other ways to potray love between character ways to convey emotion beyond being naked
Fellow prude here, prolonged intimacy scenes make me kinda uncomfortable.
Agree...nowadays in movies intimacy = sex. There are other forms of intimacy that haven't been shown often in movies.
Finally a comment which describes me❤
@@dishuuu112 yes romantically holding hands is much better than having sex all the time
Just like Sita ramam😊
Now some shehnaaz gill fans will definitely bash me but recently in one of her interview she said it's okay to be fat.. What matters is your confidence ... Are we really normalizing obesity now?
Edited : I'm not body shaming anyone being healthy is completely fine .. My question is if she speaks about being fat is completely fine then why did she loose weight??? She is an influencer who needs to know about what is she preaching the youth...
Exactly. Shehnaaz ne to ye sirf bola. There are many Indian so called influencers jo insta pe actually normalise karna shuru kar chuki hai. Or rahi bat shehnaaz ki to usko pick me syndrome hai..bas sabka favourite ban na hai usko isliye faltu ki batein.
Nd the irony is she starve herself to get perfect size and advocate about abesity.. see.. being healthy is the goal rather than fat or skinny if you are healthy as far as that obesity doesn’t matter!
Sehnaz was also fat once but she was confident enough in Bigg boss
Now she has lose weight so I don't think she is promoting obesity in any form .
India mai koi thoda bhi healthy hay naa usko bhi fat boltey hain log...
being fat isnt always about being obese there are people who can be overweight pls
Carrying 5-10 kgs extra body weight is okay.. if you are fit and Healthy...
But Obesity cannot be justified...
_P.S. I once weighed 113kgs and I lost about 32 kgs till date (Healthy Weight Loss takes time.. one shouldn'tgo for silly diet plans)..._
Obesity is Definitely Bad.. and Having 6 packs ≠ Healthy.. in fact most of the influencers/celebrities STARVE to achieve this..
I'll blame Movie Industry for UNREALISTIC BODY STANDARDS ... which has affected Everyone... Actresses creates Fake body Image.. which in turn develops body image issues among teenage girls...
Perfect explanation...
Also, the point that you mentioned... Learning together and giving time to let the other one keep up and learn, at times, are very important aspects of relationship... And, this particular thing isn't there in the Western Culture...
Your description reminds me of the situation Veere Di Wedding created. I don't know how people do the same mistake again and again. If Indian audience was uncomfortable with such topics, then movies like Lipstick under my Burkha and just recently OMG2 would have never garnered such appreciation. If they make such woke misandrist movies, they will surely get backlash. These films don't make any real difference.
OMG2 dealt with misogyny?
OMG 2 dealt with sex education
@@vinnienanda Sorry for not writing properly. The movie in a way boasts of talking about a taboo topic and sex education is also a taboo topic That's why I a compared it.
Misandrist is as toxic as misogyny.
@@MuskanSingh-kw7ux15 your comparison was apt...👍
In one sentence she's saying love yourself and other moment she said daro piyo when it's dangerous to human health I mean loving yourself doesn't mean Killin yourself
And sleeping with anyone😂 like really bro
Ek bar aids hogya maza ajyga😂😂kya hi smjhao ese logo ko
3:20 You asked the right query girl....I am so proud of you for asking the right question....these women like bhumi, rhea, ekta .....they are so delusional , they dont know the exact meaning of feminism. And Bhumi was being absolutely illogical....like they just dont want to understand the basic aspects of women empowerment. And here we have spill bee, always spilling beautifully n logically, which makes it all the more beautiful. Also, your voice is so serene.
Beautifully explained. 🌸 it is sad to see an actress like Bhumi Pednekar, of a much higher caliber than many others in the industry putting forth such vague comments, lacking depth. It seems more like a downgrade at this point.
If anyone wants to watch a movie focusing on such topics, go and watch OMG 2. It has a great storyline which is both fun and educational. Idk why i was late in watching this movie.
I am an Actress.
I work for South Indian movie industry.
I was removed from a Bollywood movie because I denied promoting it on Facebook.
This is super bad thing!! How does promotion connects with Facebook this is a absolute crap reason! I think the producers and directors were just out of there mind 😂😂😂
As a Man, This is what we need from a woman. This video I'm sharing to all my female friends and colleagues. Why blaming mens for each and everything. Thanks The Spill Bee for making this vid. ❤
Like your point on discuss with partner instead of going on public to share those issues with speakers
Have you researched a phenomenon called "The Orgasm gap"?
I watched this movie as we planned a girls day out and there was some offer going on at inox...and this movie gave a headache so bad that I had to have medicine and 3 cups of chai to get over it...and I have developed a liking for veere di wedding after this
Can anyone please explain how is the theme of film portraying feminism?? What if the men made film on woman not giving them bj would that make sense??
Don't link feminism with it... The movie was supposed to be about orgasm... something that is a need for both men and women. It's a taboo topic bss present thik se nhi kar paaye. Yha ek woman ke point of view se dikhaya hai. A better representation of something like that is in OMG 2 and that film portrayed it more seriously and maturely. Feminism has nothing to do with it so please don't use it for this movie because this movie is nothing but just nonsense.
@@albatross_007 that's what I'm talking about if you watch there interviews there are linking the filming with feminism and even in the movie they are low key degrading men...
@@Anonymous-ow1zo Yahi kaam hai unka shayad. Veere di wedding mein bhi yahi kiya tha.
@@Anonymous-ow1zo that's the problem with many female actors but as a girl myself I know it's just nonsense... Just keep ignoring them
A case should be filed on this movie 🙄 idiot movie maker n idiot actresses!
You are exactly right, times have changed and people are not relying on mainstream media for facts. Wish you a happy new year & may this year bring you more growth.
In 2013 there marathi film name Balak Palak was realeased with similar topic but the movie was made with intension of education.
Marathi movies and makers are on point and well justifies when it comes to such subjects..
Marathi movies are actually good
But you folks don't watch it
The way few women have shaded feminism, that's so tragic. I mean how wearing nothing, smoking and all is empowering and helping anyone to know themselves. Like how? Not even a single brain cell is used while giving those comments.
We are moving towards darkness😮😮
My opinion on having multiple sensual partners: We as humans all crave for emotional intimacy and yeah it can be achieved through touch to an extent. But the base of it is trust. And there’s in no way any person could trust someone who has multiple partners. And lemme say it again it’s not a taboo and you do you but there is a lot of mental health issues that comes along with unstable emotional connections.
I don’t understand why we have to tear down the opposite gender in order to feel “empowered”. Not all men are perfect just like not all women are . Let’s try to be more empathetic with each other and get through this life. This is getting tiresome now .
What😂
I wish they should have shown problems women actually face when topics like sex and intimacy come becoz in india there is a male ego if a women is not satisfied she is afraid to question her partner becoz she fears that it will hurt his ego which is a truth they should have shown this kind of storyline jisme actually mai koe ladkio sexually koe problem face kar rhi ho or wo gynecologist ko visit kre ya fr kuch esi story k uska partner or wo communicate karke isko solve kre or ladkio ko y sikhaye k they can ask to there husband if they r not satisfied and they should discuss about each other desires....but they just show daru party sex which is wrong chahe wo ladka kre ya ladki it is cheap to be honest ....unhone acha khasa topic bekr kr dia
Exactly..I also feel the same..few girls are saying it is a women empowerment but I had not watched this movie as I'm not a movie person but I heard about this movie and I always watch your content. My opinion is the same, being a biologist I also conduct many lectures and make many students aware about reproduction and reproductive health in a very clear manner without hesitation but as they are portraying this is not the correct way they are misguiding people who are not well aware..I feel our indian culture is teaching a good way of living, and our culture never taught about degrading women.
To the point....... Thank you for coming on this point SPiLL BEE 🐝
I agree with your points...movies like thank you for coming and veere di wedding instead of empowering women actually is a setback for woman empowerment...its because of these films people find it easy to misinterpret feminism...
But i would like to point out something too...mysogyny is real and partriarchy is badly embedded in both men and women of our society...i know a lot of men who are so egoistic will not even talk about this topic with their female partner..if the wife is facing such a dissatisfaction...and express it honestly they will simply take it to their ego and become angry...there are men who will not allow their woman to use a lube even after seeing her pain coz somehow her using a lube will hurt his male ego ....yes i do believe in not generalising any gender but there is this side of the coin too and its real bad
Thank you for coming SPILL BEE❤🎉😘
I think bhumi herself doesn't understand the substance of the movie that's why she is saying whatever comes to her mind.
Very well said......the crap that is being served is crazy.......boozing n smoking, cheating is freedom.......focus is more on sex, than love.......Nothing is being said about career, character or fidelity......imagine the impact it will have on young girls.........
Don't such women have fathers or brothers........😂
How Orgasm is related to Women Empowerment or Partying to Self Love. Downright idiotic. Riya Kapoor I dont why she comes up with such stupid concepts. She really needs to check ground reality in order to make good women empowering movies or series. Spill Bee as usual thank you for your unbiased opinions. Sending you more love 🥰
4:09 reminds me of one street interview, where the woman who was interviewed, told the interviewer that his thinking is very misogynistic. When he asked her whats its meaning she couldn't answer, she even asked her friend about the meaning. It was embarrasing. Similarly if you ask this celebrities and director whats the meaning of self love, misogynistic, feminism. You'll get idiotic answer.
Even Indiam audience would appreciate this kind of content but on one condition the content should be good not shitty like Thank you for coming. Matlab kuch bhi
I feel Dhak Dhak starring Sanjana Sanghi, Ratna Pathak Shah, Fatima Sana Shaikh, and Dia Mirza is the kind of Feminist movie I gravitate towards.
Recently I watched a Pakistani film named Joyride. And the way they had handled & depicted feminism, story of a transgender in love with a gay man was so beautiful! ❤
Sexual & emotional intimacy does matter. And there is no issue in talking about orgasm from a woman’s POV. But the main issue I have with these kinda movies claiming to be about revolution & feminism is that they only look at it from the perspective of a particular class of women. And they only touch the topic on a surface level. And then glamourise it with rebellion, fashion, partying, rudeness. There are lotsa other things that women look for when they say they need “freedom”.
Bhumi’s Dolly & Kitty aur Chamaktey Sitaare was a better film than this one, Veere di Wedding, Four More shots and other Ekkta Kapoor “women centric films”. I feel women with power and money are taking the same route as their male counterparts, only by disguising their efforts under the blanket of feminism.
Swara Bhasker’s attitude changed after Veere di Wedding & it did affect her career in some ways. I hope Bhumi doesn’t walk on the same path.
Her character was literally the most toxic person in the whole movie. Objectified all the men, used my man Jivan (who is the real protagonist lets be real), and shoved her drama into the lives of everyone around her and then proceeded to blame the men in her life for her actions. Then coming out and waxing philosophical really doesn't sit well, as if that's what a woman being free is about.
In this movie, they are talking about being open minded and all still they are not talking to their partners about their sex life. Bhyi jab itni independent aur open minded ban rhi ho to apne partner se discuss kro na ki he is not satisfying you.
Agar ye movie ladkon ke baare me hoti to ye fake feminists bawal kr deti unhe hawasi aur pta nhi kya kya bolke. The thing is that just communicate with your partner whatever you feel instead of telling your friends about it and making fun of your partner in front of them.
Wow amazing video. You did great job at educating on this topic than this whole movie. Also Bhumi is delusional. On some level I think she knows the corrupt theme they r trying to sell relying on dumbness of audience but it’s backfiring on their faces. It’s total non sense. N I totally agree with you spill bee.
Very well explained. Thin line between cheapness & organism.
So glad this came from you. Thank you for making this video
What if i dont want to drink and go out in clubs. This movies are not motivating but manipulating jisko lgta hai ki use ye sab ni pasand vo bhi manipulate ho jae
I don't understand why this elitist directors of Bollywood think that a woman having fun is always related to drinking, partying, talking about sex all the time, using abusive words, running away from their years long relationship and falling in love with a random person after just two days of meeting. That is the plot of basically every so called women empowerment movie made by this elitist directors. Their movies shows that how much they are indifferent or ignorant abt the Indian society and common women's conditions, problems and position in our society.
THANK YOU FOR CALLING THIS OUT.
Bhumi Pednekar is an amazing actress, her acting skills in Bala, Toilet - ek Prem Katha, Pati Patni or Woh is top notch, dk why she is degrading herself down by doing such low-grade movies, from doing best of the best storyline movies to now these crap movies, feels like she too has got completely brainwashed and carried away by the so called "glamour world" :(
These type of movies need to be stopped. They're the reasons why feminism has gained such a bad name.
When I first saw this trailer I was genuinely shocked....
Loving yourself doesn't mean to go party, and self satisfaction doesn't mean having orgasam, and masturbating. There is a lot more to teach the teenagers and the youth, these people only think that wearing western clothes and partying and drinking and smoking are cool and modern and loving yourself. Nope these kind of Films gives wrong information to the young generation.
When i went to theatre with my family and this movie trailer came up. I was really embarrassed.
Not because of the topic but because the way they presented it. They were talking as if women having orgasm with multiple men, smoking, partying, bla bla..is normal and this way only she can figure herself out. Like seriously girl..!!
I don't know what Gen Z will be learning out of this. I think self touch, knowledge, spirituality, self connection, isolation is a NICE way to discover yourself.
This is not a message on orgasm instead normalising multiple sex, drinking, and all the negative stuff. They are telling women that you can have as much partners you want just to discover your orgasmic strength.. Like dude.! you are insulting other real #Feminists..
I would appreciate "The Lust stories" about how they have really presented orgasm topic without overdoing the reality. 🌟
thankyou
boht accha bole aap didi
aisa kuch mai bhi sochta hoon par keh nahi pata aur jab words aate hai to lagta hai ki mai kahi kuch galt to nahi keh rha
I am Scientist. working in Ireland since last five years. After watching this movie, i felt ashamed on Rhea kapoor who is promoting fake feminism. Even in western society noone likes or respects sleeping with random. They need to redefine their women empowerment theory. If ese hota woman empowerment mai bina empowerment k hi achi.. worst movie
Aajkal pseudo feminism ka fashion chal rha he....aur bollywood to gutter k alawa kuch bnata hi nhi..... bollywood khud women ko stereotype krta he or audience ko bolta he ki indian audience narrow minded he....indian audience is smart enough to judge which movie is good or bad
Exactly
Sexually satisfy ni ho
Discuss with your partner
Ya tab tak bande change kre to jab tak satify na ho?
Banda aisa kre to tharki, charachterless to use bhi bolte hain, arrange marriage me agar tum womaniser famous ho to dikkat to tumhe bhi hogi
Ladki ko zyada backlash milega i agree
But that doesn't change the fact that both are wrong
Koi sense hai
What about love?
Aur ye kya 90% ladko ko satify krna ni aata
Matlab wo pehle se practice kiya hua ho
Are you serious?
Do people listen themselves while taking?
That's why I watch your videos, honest feedback without any biased opinions ❤
Now I’m getting why our parents grandparents used to use movies hamare zamane ke bht ache the
I feel like we have so many films and web series regarding these stuff now people know about them and don't need another movie to explain all over again
Drinking and partying has what substance? Nothing. Just spoiling one's health
What such movies forget is that wearing short dresses, partying all night , having phy relationship with anyone is not empowerment. A women in a saree, or suit can also be empowered without changing the way they dress or their lifestyle. a homemaker or a working women both can be strong and independent. Yess people should not blame/judge women when they party..but this not what women empowerment stands for ..it simply means a woman should also get same respect same opportunities same acceptance and appreciation that a man gets.
A big clap for you.. for making such a great video...❤❤❤
In India, it looks like the concept of freedom and liberation is having sex, drinking, substance use, and these things, and that's why they backfire. It's not wrong to show these things in movies/shows, but it should add something to the storyline. Also, I heard that the West is tired of such unnecessary vulgarity in media, and no doubt why The Idol flopped so bad. Half of that show is just sex and drugs, and it added nothing to the plot.
I watched that movie and just felt disgusted. I am a modern woman who believe is equal opportunity and rights but this movie was not about any of it. And what they wanted to promote,that 14-15 year olds should focus on having sex than focusing on their studies or future career.
What excellent observation and explanation you gave #Spill_Bee 🔥🔥🔥 just mind-blowing. Exactly what I was thinking of, but you explained it so appropriately 🤩
The substance of the film is 👉: 1️⃣ If you are not getting satisfaction from your partner and getting orgasm by yourself then you don't need to marry someone just to fulfill social criteria.
2️⃣And the second is almost all the people gets intimate with their partners sometimes. It's totally ok. The people who captures private moments and makes it viral, they are the culprit. And if you are in such situation you don't need to feel guilty or ashemed. Hold your confidence.
Yes there are some problematic statements too. But overall this is the main massages of the film.
Call me old school but I still prefer movies like veer zara,guru,vivah,swades,anwar where the love story is so pure but there is absolutely no vulgarity or unnecessary intimate scenes. I think it brings the best form of love bwn lovers practiced in our culture.
Absolutely agree. Those were such great films. Miss that era !
I hate it when people become so arrogant and egoistic that any criticism is Gaslighted by calling it misogynistic or mansplaing and its always everyone's else fault but there's...
when "feminism" became mainstream and we started talking more about it i was so elated that i could be a part of something that talks about equality in genders and breaking harmful notions that harm us as individual, harm us as society. But time progessed the actual meaning of "feminism" has twisted in such an extent that i'd rather go and call myself "old fashioned" in so many ways instead of justifying the woke sentiments labeled as feminism. Yes woman can party, can wear short dresses, can have seggs, can live alone and can do anything they wished to but all those seggsual liberation doesn't signify what "freedom" means. if you can do those things that means you are already in a place of priviledge to even think about this, where we live in a world where some girls/women fight for basic education and opportunities. So by achieving an orgasm or not wearing bra or not shaving your pits got nothing to do with "feminism" that 's an individual choice to wear a bra or not, to shave your pits or not. You shouldn't blame the society for everything lol. Society also tells you to be a good human & helo others but how many of us do so? also about achieving orgasm god just because you didn't get from one partner you should switch to someone else? how about trusting each other talking with other about limits and exploring to see what two people can achieve in seggsual satisfaction? par nahi apne ko toh bas 100 sexual partners banane hai fir koi kuch bole toh feminist ban jayenge.
I'm tired with bollywood making films on "women empowerment, feminism" when it only benefits the narrative of seggs & seggsual freedom. this movies are nothing but a waste of time i can definitely say the opinions and views these actors are projecting while promoting the films are actually harming the women in the society in the world.
Shashi Godbole from English Vinglish, Rani from Queen, Sulochana from Tumhari Sulu are just some names that shows the women empowerment in true sense. And i'm not saying making movies about seggs is wrong but the way it is presented towards a certain section of people only to make them think this is the feminism they should want is so cringe
Everything about feminism is seggs then about asexual person? what should they do? 🙄
Your voice ❤🎉 lots of love 💕
Smoking sex is all personal choice but but it shouldn't be glorified at a mass youth ko isse be zayada disri chizzo e diyan dene k zarurat h .its doesnt show case feminism at all .its beyond that independent financially morally being a good women embracing ourselves is what is all about
theme was good, very poorly executed.
second , idc about rest girls which are creators but WHY BHOOMI?
same theme with different director would have done wonders.
rhea kapoor has ZERO vision to execute sensitive topics.
Idk about this film but if they want to make it about self love... Then they have to show different women living different lifestyle and their different meaning of self love... One is happy being housewife , one is happy in her business or job, one is happy in her hobbies, helping others and one is happy in socialising, party, trips.... Women empowerment is not just you wear short clothes, alcohol , sex and talking rubbish about boys.... Ye to naa women empowerment h naa men empowerment ... Is not bad to do this things but there is limit , balance...
Bhumi is getting worse day by day.....
Apne ko upper dikhane ka mtlb ye nhi ki dusre ko nicha dikhao......
Masturbation is not self love.
Human has a nature of finding a lovable partner. But in life we came across many instances where we make wrong decisions, wrong choices sometimes people used us and sometimes we fell in a toxic situation.
Self love means to love and forgive yourself in such situations as you forgive your loved ones. Take care of yourself, saying "it's ok i was innocent, i didn't know, and moved on" self love teaches us not to ruin our lives over constantly regretting not to ruin our life by physically or emotionally killing ourselves. Love yourself first , so if you're in a toxic or abusive situations/ relationships you have the courage get out of it. Self love means not to let anyone or even yourself harm you. You are precious. ❤
Please do a video on Roadies famed Siwet’s misogynistic behavior
Fr😭 andhbhakts will never get this behaviour and call him King🤮
Okey all i can say is when shenaz gill was in Big boss Salman Khan said sehnaz tum boht agy jaogy agr tum ne apny famous ko achy se use kya after that muje ek bat samjh agye sehnaz ne ek boht thin line thi wo cross kar de and now no once likes her even i was a biggest fan of her now whenever she came to screen mae screen ko he scroll kar deti hn she lost all her innocence and being so irretate 😊
I love the way u explain, i love ur voice, i love u for being true, i love u for ur sabr. U deserve more ur account is underrated.. Sister great work.
For me woman empowerment is being independent financially stable, emotionally etc❤
Laws nd restrictions are necessary to live a decent life - my fellow generation is proving it in every possible way
Your point is right
Happy Durga Puja spill 🐝 in advance 🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Although I am a gay guy, but even I find it very disrespectful when some straight girls say that "90% of the mardo ko karna hi nhi aata".
It's really disrespectful to the entirety of men.
Just imagine if the opposite has been said in today's time the kind of Havoc it would have created.
Nowadays the life of straight men = hell 😞😞😞😞😞😞
They do say. India mein sex kbhi villainise nhi kiya gya tha jitna ab Kiya jata and boom see the result chote chote bacche porn addict horhe kyuki logo ko normal sex education Dena konsa cultural destruction rakhta.
Simple hain sex is two sides, both should communicate but humne itna villainise kr rakha hain ki puchna hi nhi chahte ek dusre se ki kya chaiye expectation kya hain.
6:05 exactly 😊😊❤❤...samne wale se baithkk bat karne se bahut sari chize thik ho jati hai bas aapko apni bat rkhni aani chahiye aur aajakl ke ladke bhi kafi hadd tak educated hai vo aapki bat ko samjh jayenge , lekin akdum se sara blem un par dal dena sahi nhi hai ..😊😊
Aur inkk muh women power ke nam pe sirf daru pina party karna inhi chizo ke liye khulta hai , yrr daru pina kha se aapko power dega bta do ...ye bolna chahiye ki aadmi aur aurat dono ko hi nhi pina chahiye health ke liye achha nhi hai , to nhi ladke pii skte hai to hum bhi piye gf ye kha ka logic hai 😂😂😂😂😂...aur ha mai ak ladki hoke bol rhi hu ye sab 😊😊..
Wonderful explanation
Wow, Good video. I haven't watched this movie, but i wonder how talking about orgasm, degrading men is considered women empowerment or FEMINISM. No doubt From centuries women have been shut at so so many level so I agree speaking up openly is important, but there is a way. Promoting sexual education amongst boys and girls, healthy conversations on topics like orgasm etc should be done in a responsible way. Saying NO to objectifying roles/songs is what actresses should promote instead. Also I feel the reason why bikinis, alcohol and abusive language is shown in women centric film is because people still make a big issue out of it whereas Shirtless men, men in the bars, men having drugs or smoking in the movies is not even questioned. In that case veere di wedding movie was somewhat balanced and appreciated
Abhi ladke aise movie banaye toh inka target ban jate hai bolke ki women lo objectively use Kar Rahe but for woke girls yahi feminist banengi
There is a temple in India with all sculpture doing all poses having sex, also in India kamasutra long time ago was written, but audience is conservative they can't as a family watch sex, nudity onscreen so filmmakers need to consider if they want wider audience please don't show sex and nudity. Simple right?
the fact that this video has more likes than that movie trailer....bursts me up😂