So, I took your advice. I did this on a vanity top I purchased from a guy who had demo'ed a house. I had to remove some scratches from and it and it worked man! Awesome. The part of the granite that I polished looked nicer than the rest of the granite. I ended up polishing in the rest just because it looked so much nicer. Luckily it was a small area. : ) The entire Regent Kit is expensive, so I purchased only what I saw you use in this video. That saved me some money. Thanks again.
Yes we regularly refinish and polish black absolute to factory. Black absolute is actually a pretty soft granite and one of the easier materials to polish.
Very well done, I've used the very same technique for several years except I don't use hogs hair I get perfect results by using an Alpha black or white buffing pad. I always join my stone using the seam phantom first and then after joining I top polish the seam for a near perfect finish.
Ricardo, yes you can match the factory finish of black granite. Black Absolute, Black Galaxy, Black Impala etc. The main issue we see now is many of the black stones are dyed from the factory to give the dark black color. This can come out while refinishing. If you achieve the shine, but lack color, you can re-dye with something like Tenax TepoxV
Yes! Using this method will get rid of your cloudiness and provide clear polished finished. Work the surface in a systematic way as shown to reduce waviness that may have been caused when the seam was ground down.
With all the care and respect there is with modern methods, its a stunning thought to consider what the methods must've been for people like the Romans and Greeks. Great video, and thanks! I'm working with a lot of reclaimed material since it seems like a lot of people don't recycle countertops.
The way that you describe is how we used to do it. We have found that with the NSI rigid turbo diamonds, you get a better result if you use them to #1000 then switch to your 4 inch resins. Also many times, you can yield a factory finish with your final buff pad making the Diaglo or Potea at the end unnecessary. However you get the result that you are looking for without causing waves is good in our book. We have found that MB-20 will cut down the time and effort on those final grits. T
It took me years to perfect top polishing. you know you've got it when you polish out a scratch in black india every time. Remember, setting your seams flat eliminates the need for polishing seams. If you have a skip try to position it in the back, sometimes you have to alternate your skip front to back when one piece is concave and the other is convex. Polishing always removes material and you will see a dip in the reflection of the stone no matter how far you feather. Good luck!
@dodoslovensko - Thank you for your comment. MB-20 is not a wax. It is not a topical of any kind. It creates a mechanical shine similar to your 5000 - 10000 diamond pads. Tests have been done with blades, chemicals, even torches to prove it. Check it out, it may be worth it. Thanks again.
This was a great video. Thank you for sharing. Very informative and educational. Thank you so much. I hate the way my granite looks. Very helpful video.
you can also clean your granite countertop with acetone and paper towel and then apply it with granite wax and depend on your granite color if its a dark material you can used black wax or if its a light material then used white or clear wax both are the same. apply it and remove excess wax as soon as you can remaining wax can easily remove by useing tripple zero steel wools and paper towel. i hope this will help!
I've been getting really good results by using the rigid top polishing pads from 100 to 400 grit, than switching to regular diamond pads with a soft backer from 800 to 3000 grit. This allows you to be really pressure aggressive with the higher grits to ensure you get that shine back. It also really helps to use minimal water with the last 2 grits, you kinda want to run them slightly dry. Then buff it with diaglow.
with edge polishing you dont need a lot of pressure because there is such a small contact patch between the stone and the pad. This creates a ton of friction and allows for a fairly simple techniquie. with this face polishing, a lot of guys struggle with controlling the machine. Keeping it flat takes practice but when taught correctly you can usually get the hang of it in about an hour.
@MrMotomik3 - Thank you for your question. Yes, you do not need to use the low grits if you are not going to be removing scratches. In many cases, you can simply clean your counter with alcohol to remove contaminants and polish the surface with MB-20 Granite Polishing Paste. If you have a lot of streaking now you may have a build up of soap residue on the surface. You can remove this with a degreaser, but make sure you rinse thoroughly though before you polish.
This is 1 way to do it. Still need your ppe tho. An round the edges of the cups so you dont accidentally tilt an dig in. Only experienced pros should attempt the face
Polishing the face is much different that polishing the edges. We have used multiple different methods including dry pads and wet pads and other abrasives; and have found that this method is the best way to achieve the results that we are looking for on the broadest array of granite surfaces without have to make too many adjustments. The key is to always be able to duplicate your success. All of the items used in the video cost around $500 and will do 25-50+ seams and/or scratch removals.
Very nice video guys i can't believe i haven't seen it till now.The problem i usually have is doing all the areas around sinks by hand if i'm afraid to remove the fixtures because they are old.You should do one on engineered stone.I've got one to do next week,so hurry.Haha.
Great work,Not a Diy'ers job it takes allot of practice to get it perfect.I would get a practice piece before going to town on a finished top.We still use 4 inch backers felt pad and dia -glo .Good video though for training.The target concept is how I learned
I loved the way you cleared the scratches off. I have a natural stone pavement on my bathroom with a lot of stains, what do you recomend to remove them all and give that floor the a "look like new" look? Thanks
Hello and thanks for the great video. I would like to please ask some questions. 1. Can a disc sander be used for polishing purposes, or the RPM is too high? 2. How can I know if I need to polish dry or wet on a particular stone? 3. Can heat from the friction of the rotating accessory cause discoloration or disfuguration of the worked area? Thank-you.
Hello, 1. Disc sander rpms are too high. The video talks about the speed being around 600 rpms 2. All commercial granite materials can be treated the same way 3. This has not been a problem because we do not heat the surface too high. If your work area is large you should alternate aeas when working wet to dry to reduce heat issues.
Hi Ted. So, I’ve been in granite for about almost 5 years. I was taught that when you have to face polish granite, always go with with 3 inch Alpha turbo discs/NSI and move on to the Ceramica wet to dry and MB20 to finish the gloss. Using regular diamond pads cause a haze, a ripple and overall, is not recommended. So I’ve always used 3 inch discs with a variable at a low RPM. Today, at my new job, I was reprimanded for not using your typical 4 inch Diamond pads (7 step or 3 step) pads because the disc process takes longer and need to use diamond pads as I was told the discs are “No good”. I understand that every place is different but what can I do to give a valid, good debate on this process is just overall better? Thanks Ted
This is the most critical. Next is understand what is too much speed or pressure. This just comes with time. Practicing on several pieces will get you more comfortable with the procedure.
Mike, I am working on getting some info for you about getting MB-20 in the UK. There is a distributor in Ireland, but I'll see what we can do. I will contact the manufacturer. I am the one in the video.
I have etching from cans of coke that were left on top for weeks. Granite is very light with lots of Silica in it. If you place a light underneath counter top you can see light thru the tops in sections. Will this lengthy process work on these tops? Thanks
Looks great. Would this be something to use for hard water stains? I have black granite in my kitchen thats about four years old. It was sealed when installed. However i have white hard water stains that i cant get out.
really smooth but how could they have done this thousands of years ago?? i have been in the Kings Chamber in the Giza Pyramid, also granite and also just as smooth
do i clean and impregnate first ? then seal after mb20 polish stage for finalizing? can i use a white hook and loop fine foam pad with the mb 20 using a DA polisher? or wool pad with the mb20? which is closest to the hoghair pad? can i use any hook and loop 1000 grit sand pad before the mb20 polish stage?
Hi there, can you tell me what MB20 is please. I am a stone polisher in the UK. I use Stardust and Jimmy to final polish using wire wool. Where do I get MB20 from? Great video thanks.
I placed some pre-cut granite bull-nose edges in my kitchen and some and some were cut with differently leaving me with about 1/16th to a 1/8th lip around the edges in some spots. Can this be grind-ed down and re-polished to hide the lip?
It can be done but 1/8" is a pretty large difference in height. It may be difficult to grind it flat without leaving waves. Grinding seams is different than scratch removal. you have to grind the high spots without affecting the low spots until the high spots are sufficiently flat.
Would this system work for rectifying errors in a headstone inscription or is it only for flat surfaces? There would be a dimple in the stone so pads might not be flexible enough? How good is it on black?
Ted, I just opened the garage and it in fact is fairly reflects images off of the one area I worked on a really long time. Does this mean we simply need to do more?
depends if they are actual stains or etches, Many times etch marks are mistaken for stains. A stain can be removed with different solutions, etch marks must be sanded or refinished to make them go away, as they are an actual chemical damage to the stone. If it is lighter than the stone it is an etch, if it is darker than the stone it is a stain. Can you provide more information?
What about granite with a vanguard on the top? If you go through the vanguard it will leave a lighter spot. the vanguard darkens with age and as you polish can wear away the top layer causing bigger problems. I'm not trying to shoot down your method as your snail lock pads work great but do you have a solution for this problem?
My cold springs granite coffee table had a few scratches near the edge that the fabricator came out to fix using the same machine and method you used. It came out very well, scratched areas actually seem more polished than the rest of coffee table. However I noticed, especially in light reflection, the surface is rippled. As in there are dips in the surface, not flat. It's nearly impossible to feel but very visible when light reflects off it. Is this because he used too much pressure? Is it possible to fix this? Thanks
bluedoggiant The pads in the this video are designed specifically to keep the surface flat. They have zero flexibility, but have more of a learning curve. The waves happen when someone is inexperienced, or use diamonds that have too much flexibility. Sometimes it is not possible to keep it perfectly flat.
bluedoggiant hello where did you buy cold springs granite for the size of a coffee table? that's the granite i want for a bathroom vanity, but everyone has size requirements to allow order so im having trouble trying to find a vendor. thanks.
Hello I polished starting at 300 To remove a scratch Went all the way up to 3000 With water a diamond polishing pads Spot now looks dull do you have any advice that would help
I have been surface polishing for 6 years and i was curious if this will get the same results on a high gloss dark stone WITHOUT using a black powder polish like diaglow and without a deepening agent like ager or akemi spider black? I have also seen people use the orbital polishers and alot of the time they use the powder and a liquid polish and then use steel wool. I def like your guys method i am just curious if the results can be better without the use of those things. thank you
it would be interesting to see if the camera showed all different angles...Usually you can see the difference of quality of machine and hand polish in reflection of light.. a 0.5mm scratch means in the reflection (if you keep your head low to the surface) you can see uneven surface ...Incredibly hard job for a fussy client....
This video was done in 2011 so different angles was difficult. I will create something that gives different angles soon. This process works every time from any angle.
Says "a 1000 grit will result in an almost factory finish". Well, I suppose that depends on what the factory finish is! My almost black Uba Tuba granite was installed with a HONED finish. What grit do I need to finish with when trying to work out faint scratched made from the bottom of kiln-fired plates & bowls?
Honing powder will remove metal marks. You will need to do the entire counter with it. It's pretty easy. If they are scratches you will need to approximate the existing grit. Ask you fabricator how it was honed. This may be better done by a pro.
I wolud like to know if you can get the same polishing on a black granite because I have experience for over 12 years and my father for over 40 years with marble and granite and I don't remember to get the same polishing like the factory, just like Carlos Silva said. Maybe I'm wrong and you have another kind of products to made this, i just want to do know if we can get the same polishing in black granite as the factory?
+Lass-in Angeles Thank you for your comment. You are right, the kit can be expensive . This is intended to give as much information as possible for both DIY and those that you might pay to do it. It would cost $450 - $650+ to pay me to do it depending on severity of existing damage. I am located in Orange County, CA.
If you buy the kit you'll be able to polish/fix 50 tops and scratches. The process is not as easy as Ted makes it look. Like it says in the beginning, get some granite and practice. Make sure you use lots of light because that will tell you if you're successful.
That is a very soft stone, if you focus on such a small area and do not spread out more especially with the first step your going to leave a major dimple in the surface, and on such a soft stone if the scratch is not very deep you should not have to start with anything lower then a 400 grit.
Most granite can be treated the exact same way. The reason why we are so methodical when we teach students how to do this is to eliminate the possibility of creating dips and low spots in the finished polish.
Igor de Oliveira Sa there is indeed 'hard' and 'soft' granite, some stones are a combination of both and can easily be unevenly polished, it all depends on mineral make up
Great video. For doing my own home project, do you recommend a wet or dry polisher? I'll also take a look at your comment from 6 months ago to someone also doing home project, you refer to another website for a diy kit I believe. Thank you
I had a feeling. I ended up getting the Makita Wet model PW5001C as a gift from my best friend. It arrives on Wednesday. It may be returnable if needed. Is the rpm's going to be too high on the wet model vs the 9227 you recommend? I'll be using for granite counter top home project and travertine floors - areas that I couldn't get with floor polisher (stairs, etc.). Thank you so much for your time and expertise.
Again many thanks for your help. I have an email to see if I can swap product before it is shipped. I'm hopeful. I'm taking a stone pro class in Jan through my supplier, I wasn't patient enough to wait to get started....since my floors turned out soooo well.
The farther down you cut, the farther out you need to cut to keep a flat reflection, to not have any waves or wobbles in the reflection. Overlapping is important. This isn't the holy grail of polishing granite, it's a procedure that works for some and may not for others. I'm curious to know what your procedure would be?
@td7474 You can use the MB-20 to polish your counter. However the mineral deposits should due removed first. You can do this by using one side of a single edge razor blade to remove any roughness or particles (do not turn the blade over and use the other side). You can also use fine steel wool (#0 or #00) to remove whatever residues may still be there. What is left should be able to be polished out with MB-20. Be patient with the MB-20, black granite shows everything as you well know.
Ted, I got your reply, thanks, but I cannot see it here or in my inbox anywhere, only the email notification that has the first three sentences. It is made of 2" x 6" strips of black marble and made in China. The color is fairly dark, but varied, and even including some off white veins. There is almost a shine from an angle, but not good. The small area I worked on for 30 minutes again looks a tad better, darker a bit, but still no shine.
Yes for quartzite though you may need to adjust the process depending on the hardness of the stone. For marble there are other better methods. Here is a long and boring video on polishing marble countertops ua-cam.com/users/live18DrORmS75g?si=yEUF8ExvHeDXTA3L
I've polished everything from Cosmos to Mesabi with DC-Pro/Diarex Pro pads. 50-400 hard and gritty, then 800-5000 with USED Dry Meta's. No Alpha carbides - to be honest they're great if "you don't have time" - but if quality is key please use 50-800 Alpha and DC-PRO 1500-5000 dry. Sprinkle/Spray denatured Alcohol between grits... ALSO START YOUR POLISH OFF THE STONE!!!!! SCRATCHED tops are from beginning polish ON stone. Hmph... I pray we can Master the Craft
I had granite counter tops installed in my kitchen. I believe it was an inferior type of cut. It is very pitted and grainy. I am unsure as to how to care for it. It is beautiful and so far I have cleaned it with a moist cloth (no soap). I let it air dry. How can I fix this issue?
Pls I ave a fountain nd which the wall is of granite.... But I discovered a whitish line on the granite wall maybe bcos of the water fountain dropping... But I really want too remove dat whitish stuff.... I tried using water nd soap and some chemicals yet ain't resolved... When I clean it wit water nd chemical qin the affected area it's looks as if it's no more der but after it get dry that whitish stuff comes out again
+Emmanuel Uche In your situation it sounds like you are dealing with heavy mineral deposits. In this case you would want to use an acid based cleaner and a mild scrub pad, like a Scotchbrite Blue pad.
some acids however will etch the granite surface and dull the shine. You may dislike the white mineral deposits more than you do the dull etching. a scotchpad can also cause micro abrasive scratches as well and can be quite difficult to remove much scale very fast. There is a special gell cleaner made by Bio-Dex but it is still an acid that you need to use care in applying. do it by hand not with a machine or you will splatter all the product where you don't need it. Mechanical removal and polishing is best but as you saw in the video it will take time and proficiency as well as an electric power tool that you need to make sure you're using a CGFI circuit protection so you don't get electrocuted if you get the tool in the pool. Recommend draining pool a foot or so anyway. Prevention would be done using a sacrificial silicone sealer also by the same company that keeps the future scale from connecting chemically with the stone and just a light nylon brushing will remove the buildup with regular pool cleaning.
Turbo-Seal I have a granite waterfall I'm interested in restoring has white mineral deposits all over what should I seal it with after using the cleaner
I have vanity top of indian galaxy granite. It came polished from the factory and when i was about to shift in the house the shine was gone. I tried to restore it myself witj pad #3000 followed by pad#5000 and then granite buff. But the problem remains the same.. What i am missing. I can send the pic of it
What does your empire consist of? I may be interested. Also, if this escalates to a triple dog dare, I have no choice. What do I put up for collateral?
So, I took your advice. I did this on a vanity top I purchased from a guy who had demo'ed a house. I had to remove some scratches from and it and it worked man! Awesome. The part of the granite that I polished looked nicer than the rest of the granite. I ended up polishing in the rest just because it looked so much nicer. Luckily it was a small area. : ) The entire Regent Kit is expensive, so I purchased only what I saw you use in this video. That saved me some money. Thanks again.
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Yes we regularly refinish and polish black absolute to factory. Black absolute is actually a pretty soft granite and one of the easier materials to polish.
I did this type of work for years always enjoyed seeing the surface pop after the final polish and buff ,,,,,,
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thank you so much for taking the time to make this video and explain all your helpful tips!! Much appreciated.
My pleasure
Very well done, I've used the very same technique for several years except I don't use hogs hair I get perfect results by using an Alpha black or white buffing pad. I always join my stone using the seam phantom first and then after joining I top polish the seam for a near perfect finish.
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The explanations and the camera work are phenomenal. Thank you for this video.
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The intro message is spot on and couldn't be reinforced enough.
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@@tedmcfadden 😀Slightly delayed response.
@@davidcampbell8031 Long overdue
One of the best vids for Granite. (Not marble)Thanks guys.
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I work as a granite fabricator and I enjoy seeing how others do it
What’s your detail of your job and does a polisher only fo countertops
@@DiegoHerrera-zi5os I just polish countertops and I’m not sure if it can be used for other things
@@Saul_goodman6903 you do that for a living? Is what I want to know I used to buff cars but I’m seeing if there is a career on this
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Ricardo, yes you can match the factory finish of black granite. Black Absolute, Black Galaxy, Black Impala etc. The main issue we see now is many of the black stones are dyed from the factory to give the dark black color. This can come out while refinishing. If you achieve the shine, but lack color, you can re-dye with something like Tenax TepoxV
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Yes! Using this method will get rid of your cloudiness and provide clear polished finished. Work the surface in a systematic way as shown to reduce waviness that may have been caused when the seam was ground down.
With all the care and respect there is with modern methods, its a stunning thought to consider what the methods must've been for people like the Romans and Greeks. Great video, and thanks! I'm working with a lot of reclaimed material since it seems like a lot of people don't recycle countertops.
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The way that you describe is how we used to do it. We have found that with the NSI rigid turbo diamonds, you get a better result if you use them to #1000 then switch to your 4 inch resins. Also many times, you can yield a factory finish with your final buff pad making the Diaglo or Potea at the end unnecessary. However you get the result that you are looking for without causing waves is good in our book. We have found that MB-20 will cut down the time and effort on those final grits. T
It took me years to perfect top polishing. you know you've got it when you polish out a scratch in black india every time. Remember, setting your seams flat eliminates the need for polishing seams. If you have a skip try to position it in the back, sometimes you have to alternate your skip front to back when one piece is concave and the other is convex. Polishing always removes material and you will see a dip in the reflection of the stone no matter how far you feather. Good luck!
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this video makes me appreciate the value of hiring a professional
Great Rotary Polisher! Worth the money.
Yes. Thank you
@dodoslovensko - Thank you for your comment. MB-20 is not a wax. It is not a topical of any kind. It creates a mechanical shine similar to your 5000 - 10000 diamond pads. Tests have been done with blades, chemicals, even torches to prove it. Check it out, it may be worth it. Thanks again.
Can you use a regular grinder with those disc or a low speed one?
@@moisesbeyond Low speed only. I like the Makita 9227C but a lot of pros use the Milwaukee too.
Nicely done 😎
Thank you! Cheers!
This was a great video. Thank you for sharing. Very informative and educational. Thank you so much. I hate the way my granite looks. Very helpful video.
Best video I’ve seen. Delivered well, very organized. Thank you guys.
Very Good job
We did a little different, for example didn't use water when grinding surface. And dust were every where.
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you can also clean your granite countertop with acetone and paper towel and then apply it with granite wax and depend on your granite color if its a dark material you can used black wax or if its a light material then used white or clear wax both are the same. apply it and remove excess wax as soon as you can remaining wax can easily remove by useing tripple zero steel wools and paper towel. i hope this will help!
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I've been getting really good results by using the rigid top polishing pads from 100 to 400 grit, than switching to regular diamond pads with a soft backer from 800 to 3000 grit. This allows you to be really pressure aggressive with the higher grits to ensure you get that shine back. It also really helps to use minimal water with the last 2 grits, you kinda want to run them slightly dry. Then buff it with diaglow.
Then look at that ripple
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with edge polishing you dont need a lot of pressure because there is such a small contact patch between the stone and the pad. This creates a ton of friction and allows for a fairly simple techniquie. with this face polishing, a lot of guys struggle with controlling the machine. Keeping it flat takes practice but when taught correctly you can usually get the hang of it in about an hour.
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Very helpful video - Thank you!
You’re welcome
looks nice . i use 5000 -10000 diamonds pad , my polishing is all water cooled. i dont put any wax on countertops , because no one wants to eat wax.
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Awesome job
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Great video! I feel like I know how it feels holding that grinder. Looking forward to putting this to use someday.
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Good video. Let's see you do it to a bit of resinated black granite though.
A bit more attention to the grinding pattern I think
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@MrMotomik3 - Thank you for your question. Yes, you do not need to use the low grits if you are not going to be removing scratches. In many cases, you can simply clean your counter with alcohol to remove contaminants and polish the surface with MB-20 Granite Polishing Paste.
If you have a lot of streaking now you may have a build up of soap residue on the surface. You can remove this with a degreaser, but make sure you rinse thoroughly though before you polish.
Agreed!
I once repaired a pretty big island back to factory finish.
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This is 1 way to do it. Still need your ppe tho. An round the edges of the cups so you dont accidentally tilt an dig in. Only experienced pros should attempt the face
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Polishing the face is much different that polishing the edges. We have used multiple different methods including dry pads and wet pads and other abrasives; and have found that this method is the best way to achieve the results that we are looking for on the broadest array of granite surfaces without have to make too many adjustments.
The key is to always be able to duplicate your success. All of the items used in the video cost around $500 and will do 25-50+ seams and/or scratch removals.
nice vid...thank you guys for the instruction and the effort made!
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Very nice video guys i can't believe i haven't seen it till now.The problem i usually have is doing all the areas around sinks by hand if i'm afraid to remove the fixtures because they are old.You should do one on engineered stone.I've got one to do next week,so hurry.Haha.
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Great work,Not a Diy'ers job it takes allot of practice to get it perfect.I would get a practice piece before going to town on a finished top.We still use 4 inch backers felt pad and dia -glo .Good video though for training.The target concept is how I learned
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I loved the way you cleared the scratches off. I have a natural stone pavement on my bathroom with a lot of stains, what do you recomend to remove them all and give that floor the a "look like new" look?
Thanks
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@Guyvans We are using the Makita 9227C. I tis the variable speed polisher. I'm not sure about availability in South Africa.
Thanks ted! Not sure i want to tackle this. May have someone some in to clean, polish and seal.
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Hello and thanks for the great video.
I would like to please ask some questions.
1. Can a disc sander be used for polishing purposes, or the RPM is too high?
2. How can I know if I need to polish dry or wet on a particular stone?
3. Can heat from the friction of the rotating accessory cause discoloration or disfuguration of the worked area?
Thank-you.
Hi, your question were really relevant to me as well. Did you get any answers? Thanks
Hello,
1. Disc sander rpms are too high. The video talks about the speed being around 600 rpms
2. All commercial granite materials can be treated the same way
3. This has not been a problem because we do not heat the surface too high. If your work area is large you should alternate aeas when working wet to dry to reduce heat issues.
yes, if variable speed 600/4500
Great video. Very helpful
Glad you think so!
You are right Josh. Thanks for the comment.
Hi Ted. So, I’ve been in granite for about almost 5 years. I was taught that when you have to face polish granite, always go with with 3 inch Alpha turbo discs/NSI and move on to the Ceramica wet to dry and MB20 to finish the gloss. Using regular diamond pads cause a haze, a ripple and overall, is not recommended. So I’ve always used 3 inch discs with a variable at a low RPM. Today, at my new job, I was reprimanded for not using your typical 4 inch Diamond pads (7 step or 3 step) pads because the disc process takes longer and need to use diamond pads as I was told the discs are “No good”. I understand that every place is different but what can I do to give a valid, good debate on this process is just overall better? Thanks Ted
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This is the most critical. Next is understand what is too much speed or pressure. This just comes with time. Practicing on several pieces will get you more comfortable with the procedure.
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Mike, I am working on getting some info for you about getting MB-20 in the UK. There is a distributor in Ireland, but I'll see what we can do. I will contact the manufacturer. I am the one in the video.
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Video done well, thanks for the post.
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I have etching from cans of coke that were left on top for weeks. Granite is very light with lots of Silica in it. If you place a light underneath counter top you can see light thru the tops in sections. Will this lengthy process work on these tops? Thanks
You likely do not have granite. You probably have onyx or marble. Onyx is translucent so allows light to see it from underneath. Onyx also etches.
really informative info,its the same way we do it in the caribbean,but i was wondering whats the name of the cream you used in the last application.
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Looks great. Would this be something to use for hard water stains? I have black granite in my kitchen thats about four years old. It was sealed when installed. However i have white hard water stains that i cant get out.
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good video and very informative. thanks for sharing
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mate that was satisfying - can I use the last step to buff my grant table to rejuvenate the shine? tia
Sorry for the delay. Yes the last step works well to polish the surface of any granite.
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I start work tomorrow. This better calm my nerves.
You got this!
What are your rpm's on the grinder ?
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We regularly refinish and polish granite to factory.
really smooth but how could they have done this thousands of years ago?? i have been in the Kings Chamber in the Giza Pyramid, also granite and also just as smooth
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Slavery, they used slavery.
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Try this on black granite then your a boss. Greetings from a stone mason from the Netherlands
do i clean and impregnate first ? then seal after mb20 polish stage for finalizing?
can i use a white hook and loop fine foam pad with the mb 20 using a DA polisher? or wool pad with the mb20? which is closest to the hoghair pad?
can i use any hook and loop 1000 grit sand pad before the mb20 polish stage?
follow the instructions for best results
Hi there, can you tell me what MB20 is please. I am a stone polisher in the UK. I use Stardust and Jimmy to final polish using wire wool. Where do I get MB20 from? Great video thanks.
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Can you do video about removing smudges on mable stones, thanks
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I placed some pre-cut granite bull-nose edges in my kitchen and some and some were cut with differently leaving me with about 1/16th to a 1/8th lip around the edges in some spots. Can this be grind-ed down and re-polished to hide the lip?
It can be done but 1/8" is a pretty large difference in height. It may be difficult to grind it flat without leaving waves. Grinding seams is different than scratch removal. you have to grind the high spots without affecting the low spots until the high spots are sufficiently flat.
Would this system work for rectifying errors in a headstone inscription
or is it only for flat surfaces?
There would be a dimple in the stone so pads might not be flexible enough?
How good is it on black?
This works great on black. I would not suggest using this on headstones unless you first used a corse cup wheel to flatten the surface.
Thanks for the reply, Maybe stick to the 4" pads and Putty powder finish with uneven surfaces..
Pls give details brand & watts of grinder, red lock wheel brand & pads used
See link in description.
Thank you for your question. The product is called MB-20. It is introduced at the beginning of the video.
what type of sandpaper you use and the type of cream and also if it works in quartz and marble or only in granite.
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Ted, I just opened the garage and it in fact is fairly reflects images off of the one area I worked on a really long time. Does this mean we simply need to do more?
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I can't wait to see your video.
depends if they are actual stains or etches, Many times etch marks are mistaken for stains. A stain can be removed with different solutions, etch marks must be sanded or refinished to make them go away, as they are an actual chemical damage to the stone. If it is lighter than the stone it is an etch, if it is darker than the stone it is a stain. Can you provide more information?
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What speed I need have my polishing machine y what are the number of the pads ?
600 rpms check out easystonecare.com for the grit sequence.
Can you use car compounds and polishes and random orbital polisher for stone?
No. Car compounds are made to polish coatings. Stone is much harder.
How much pressure are you applying to the machine? And is the same pressure applied for every grade?
about 10 pounds of pressure. Same pressure on every grit except a little more with 1000 ceramica
What about granite with a vanguard on the top? If you go through the vanguard it will leave a lighter spot. the vanguard darkens with age and as you polish can wear away the top layer causing bigger problems. I'm not trying to shoot down your method as your snail lock pads work great but do you have a solution for this problem?
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My cold springs granite coffee table had a few scratches near the edge that the fabricator came out to fix using the same machine and method you used. It came out very well, scratched areas actually seem more polished than the rest of coffee table.
However I noticed, especially in light reflection, the surface is rippled. As in there are dips in the surface, not flat. It's nearly impossible to feel but very visible when light reflects off it.
Is this because he used too much pressure? Is it possible to fix this?
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bluedoggiant The pads in the this video are designed specifically to keep the surface flat. They have zero flexibility, but have more of a learning curve. The waves happen when someone is inexperienced, or use diamonds that have too much flexibility. Sometimes it is not possible to keep it perfectly flat.
bluedoggiant hello where did you buy cold springs granite for the size of a coffee table? that's the granite i want for a bathroom vanity, but everyone has size requirements to allow order so im having trouble trying to find a vendor. thanks.
icawn it was leftover from another project my fabricator did. Ask to see their remnants or graveyard material.
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Hello
I polished starting at 300
To remove a scratch
Went all the way up to 3000
With water a diamond polishing pads
Spot now looks dull do you have any advice that would help
Advice: watch the video to the end.
I have been surface polishing for 6 years and i was curious if this will get the same results on a high gloss dark stone WITHOUT using a black powder polish like diaglow and without a deepening agent like ager or akemi spider black? I have also seen people use the orbital polishers and alot of the time they use the powder and a liquid polish and then use steel wool. I def like your guys method i am just curious if the results can be better without the use of those things.
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it would be interesting to see if the camera showed all different angles...Usually you can see the difference of quality of machine and hand polish in reflection of light.. a 0.5mm scratch means in the reflection (if you keep your head low to the surface) you can see uneven surface ...Incredibly hard job for a fussy client....
This video was done in 2011 so different angles was difficult. I will create something that gives different angles soon. This process works every time from any angle.
Says "a 1000 grit will result in an almost factory finish". Well, I suppose that depends on what the factory finish is! My almost black Uba Tuba granite was installed with a HONED finish. What grit do I need to finish with when trying to work out faint scratched made from the bottom of kiln-fired plates & bowls?
Honing powder will remove metal marks. You will need to do the entire counter with it. It's pretty easy.
If they are scratches you will need to approximate the existing grit. Ask you fabricator how it was honed. This may be better done by a pro.
Would you need to use a sealant after polishing this?
Yes
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I wolud like to know if you can get the same polishing on a black granite because I have experience for over 12 years and my father for over 40 years with marble and granite and I don't remember to get the same polishing like the factory, just like Carlos Silva said. Maybe I'm wrong and you have another kind of products to made this, i just want to do know if we can get the same polishing in black granite as the factory?
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Thank you! Very detailed and good demo!!
However, your kit costs $735. At this price, I could pay someone to do it.
+Lass-in Angeles Thank you for your comment. You are right, the kit can be expensive . This is intended to give as much information as possible for both DIY and those that you might pay to do it. It would cost $450 - $650+ to pay me to do it depending on severity of existing damage. I am located in Orange County, CA.
This video was not for DIY. It is to demonstrate to professionals the process of repairing stone so we can charge you the homeowner.
Besides the fact I’d charge you thousands to do it l
@@turbo-seal189 how are you going to tell the guy that made the video it isn’t for diy?
If you buy the kit you'll be able to polish/fix 50 tops and scratches. The process is not as easy as Ted makes it look.
Like it says in the beginning, get some granite and practice. Make sure you use lots of light because that will tell you if you're successful.
That is a very soft stone, if you focus on such a small area and do not spread out more especially with the first step your going to leave a major dimple in the surface, and on such a soft stone if the scratch is not very deep you should not have to start with anything lower then a 400 grit.
Most granite can be treated the exact same way. The reason why we are so methodical when we teach students how to do this is to eliminate the possibility of creating dips and low spots in the finished polish.
Ted McFadden so far as I know, there is no softness difference among granite varieties. Am I wrong?
Igor de Oliveira Sa there is indeed 'hard' and 'soft' granite, some stones are a combination of both and can easily be unevenly polished, it all depends on mineral make up
Skyler Cyr thank you so much!
Great video. For doing my own home project, do you recommend a wet or dry polisher? I'll also take a look at your comment from 6 months ago to someone also doing home project, you refer to another website for a diy kit I believe. Thank you
Low speed dry polisher like the one in the video. Makita 9227c
I had a feeling. I ended up getting the Makita Wet model PW5001C as a gift from my best friend. It arrives on Wednesday. It may be returnable if needed. Is the rpm's going to be too high on the wet model vs the 9227 you recommend? I'll be using for granite counter top home project and travertine floors - areas that I couldn't get with floor polisher (stairs, etc.). Thank you so much for your time and expertise.
I believe that is 2000-4000 rpms. That is too fast. The 9227C is more appropriate for stone refinishing and polishing
Again many thanks for your help. I have an email to see if I can swap product before it is shipped. I'm hopeful. I'm taking a stone pro class in Jan through my supplier, I wasn't patient enough to wait to get started....since my floors turned out soooo well.
Sounds good. We have an online training program at stonecareedu.com that will give you all the info you need.
How much pressure are you applying on the machine??
Seems like you are in effort when you are using the small polisher accessory.
Why so ??
10lbs
The farther down you cut, the farther out you need to cut to keep a flat reflection, to not have any waves or wobbles in the reflection. Overlapping is important. This isn't the holy grail of polishing granite, it's a procedure that works for some and may not for others.
I'm curious to know what your procedure would be?
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I see you are using a Makita polisher, Are they available in South Africa? what model is?
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@td7474 You can use the MB-20 to polish your counter. However the mineral deposits should due removed first. You can do this by using one side of a single edge razor blade to remove any roughness or particles (do not turn the blade over and use the other side). You can also use fine steel wool (#0 or #00) to remove whatever residues may still be there. What is left should be able to be polished out with MB-20. Be patient with the MB-20, black granite shows everything as you well know.
Quisiera saber que materiales y herramientas utilizo asi como los aditivos que echo en la puerta para que quede brillante por favor.
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Ted, I got your reply, thanks, but I cannot see it here or in my inbox anywhere, only the email notification that has the first three sentences. It is made of 2" x 6" strips of black marble and made in China. The color is fairly dark, but varied, and even including some off white veins. There is almost a shine from an angle, but not good. The small area I worked on for 30 minutes again looks a tad better, darker a bit, but still no shine.
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What's the reasoning for only doing half the circle at a time?
So you can see progress?
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@@tedmcfadden well...better late than never...lol
Does this process work on quartzite? Marble?
Yes for quartzite though you may need to adjust the process depending on the hardness of the stone.
For marble there are other better methods. Here is a long and boring video on polishing marble countertops
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i can match the finish om black absolute,or any other granite. i have 27yrs of ex. could tell you,but i do i get in touch with you. marble mike
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What speed are you using
600 rpm
*excelente trabajo amigo great and beautiful job 🙋♂️👌👍👏🤛*
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give me details on what you are using to do this?
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I've polished everything from Cosmos to Mesabi with DC-Pro/Diarex Pro pads. 50-400 hard and gritty, then 800-5000 with USED Dry Meta's. No Alpha carbides - to be honest they're great if "you don't have time" - but if quality is key please use 50-800 Alpha and DC-PRO 1500-5000 dry. Sprinkle/Spray denatured Alcohol between grits... ALSO START YOUR POLISH OFF THE STONE!!!!! SCRATCHED tops are from beginning polish ON stone. Hmph... I pray we can Master the Craft
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Hey, guy! What's the material of grinding granite disc?
Thank you! :)
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I had granite counter tops installed in my kitchen. I believe it was an inferior type of cut. It is very pitted and grainy. I am unsure as to how to care for it. It is beautiful and so far I have cleaned it with a moist cloth (no soap). I let it air dry. How can I fix this issue?
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Pls I ave a fountain nd which the wall is of granite.... But I discovered a whitish line on the granite wall maybe bcos of the water fountain dropping... But I really want too remove dat whitish stuff.... I tried using water nd soap and some chemicals yet ain't resolved... When I clean it wit water nd chemical qin the affected area it's looks as if it's no more der but after it get dry that whitish stuff comes out again
+Emmanuel Uche In your situation it sounds like you are dealing with heavy mineral deposits. In this case you would want to use an acid based cleaner and a mild scrub pad, like a Scotchbrite Blue pad.
some acids however will etch the granite surface and dull the shine. You may dislike the white mineral deposits more than you do the dull etching. a scotchpad can also cause micro abrasive scratches as well and can be quite difficult to remove much scale very fast. There is a special gell cleaner made by Bio-Dex but it is still an acid that you need to use care in applying. do it by hand not with a machine or you will splatter all the product where you don't need it. Mechanical removal and polishing is best but as you saw in the video it will take time and proficiency as well as an electric power tool that you need to make sure you're using a CGFI circuit protection so you don't get electrocuted if you get the tool in the pool. Recommend draining pool a foot or so anyway. Prevention would be done using a sacrificial silicone sealer also by the same company that keeps the future scale from connecting chemically with the stone and just a light nylon brushing will remove the buildup with regular pool cleaning.
Turbo-Seal I have a granite waterfall I'm interested in restoring has white mineral deposits all over what should I seal it with after using the cleaner
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I have vanity top of indian galaxy granite. It came polished from the factory and when i was about to shift in the house the shine was gone. I tried to restore it myself witj pad #3000 followed by pad#5000 and then granite buff. But the problem remains the same.. What i am missing. I can send the pic of it
Use the MB20
What does your empire consist of? I may be interested. Also, if this escalates to a triple dog dare, I have no choice. What do I put up for collateral?
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