Gary, sorry I missed you guys, I was doing the same thing having a few beers and listening to some prog rock/metal outside putting up my Xmas lights. See ya soon my friend
Great episode again. Chicago 17 is a great pop aor record. Icon is a very good band and Night of the crime is their best. Midnight madness, well a classic!
Thanks for another great show. Love the beer discussion at the start. I like real ales like you guys. I find that the Old Jock a tad sweet for my pallette Of the albums I only bought one at the time ,I like Simon,have a copy of Chicago 17 on cassette. I also like this album. Night ranger is a band I discovered with he 7 wishes album ,still my favourite. I did eventually get the Midnight Madness album,again an enjoyable album Missed out on Icon .will need to go to UA-cam or other streaming channels to listen to it. Looking forward to Rainbow discussion,Still one of my favourite bands.
Chicago should be applauded for continuing after Terry Kath's passing. I can't imagine what it was like for them to lose such an amazing talent in the most tragic circumstances. But it was the contributions of all the members that made them such an awesome band, so it's not like they were always going to be doomed without him. It was David Foster who ruined them.
Great show guys, Midnight madness is fantastic, Night of the crime is such a great record also....but I'm with Simon here I'm taking Chicago 17 with me. Its a time and place thing I think but I love it.
What a great show gents, great picks this time around! I love Night Ranger (top 10 band for me) so obviously I have Midnight Madness high on my list (my favorite from this time). Not the biggest fan of Sister Christian but the rest is great! Icon is a fantastic album too so that would be my 2nd, I'm not the biggest ChicagoAoR Era fan I prefer the Terry Katz Chicago although cetera is an amazing singer.
Great to see some coverage on Icon guys! I first caught them on the Metal Shop radio show (anyone remember?) back in the day, where they played "Out for Blood" and I immediately went out and got "Night of the Crime" and the self-titled debut, and wore out the tape on both of them. Sure, the debut was a little heavier and rough around the edges, compared to this one, but it was more or less synonymous with the transition many bands made from '84 to '85, particularly on majors, charged with producing the pop-radio hit and rock anthem. To echo what's already been said, Icon had all the parts in place to make an impact, then suddenly vanished. If they could have landed an opening gig with a major act and rode the wave through the '80s, who knows how far they could have gone. They would have died on the vine in the '90s like the rest of those bands but at least would have some legacy to speak of and potentially re-emerged on Frontiers once melodic rock returned to prominence. They certainly had the talent. I'll disagree with Simon in that Steven Clifford as a vocalist was definitely distinctive and in my mind, a difference-maker. Consider the 1989 "Right Between the Eyes" comeback. It was a pretty good album overall, but you'd hardly recognize it as Icon--totally different sounding singer and they'd probably have been better off renaming the band. Worth checking out in any case. I recall a few years back that the original Icon, including Clifford, was getting back together and doing an album. I suppose it probably won't happen, but then again, other underground "classics" have come back around to varying degrees, so why not give it another shot? Anyway, great record, top to bottom. Night Ranger: "Passion Play" should have been a hit. Good guitar hooks, catchy chorus. Chicago: "Stay the Night" was a good tune--and video. Is that on this album? LOL
"Solid" episode Gents😁 I'm going with a nice tall glass of iced tea this week. Being lazy about this week's assignment. Never heard Icon. Remember the video for 'Stay the Night', and like the song. Listened alot to 'Midnight Maddnes' on my Walkman when I would go for a run (it was on a rotation with Steve Walsh's band Streets)at the time. Interested to hear Steven's thoughts on CTA. Also, enjoying my navy blue UKC tee.✌️& 🎶🔊
Night of the Crime is the greatest AOR album of all-time, in my opinion. A masterpiece! Its the perfect balance of heavy and melodic. Also, the production is fantastic! Courtesy of the great Eddie Kramer.
Just read Steven's review of the latest Sahg release. I saw them playing with Audrey Horne in Glasgow a few years back. Both bands were excellent. Was heartbreaking how few people bothered to turn up
After listening to Scot, and his piece on The Prog Corner about Chicago, I had a long listen to them (whilst ironing). Mmmm they never were really big in the UK!
I would suggest perhaps having a look at the 'More Perfect Union' that Icon did in 1987. It was only ever released on cassette and in a very limited capacy, although there was a cd reissue later on with a few bonus tracks included. The reason I suggested this is that Icon went full on AOR on this album and I think it would be great for the show. The only issue would be that the tracks are extremely hard to find on the internet (they certainly aren't on youtube last time I checked) and copies of the album can be fairly pricey
A metal fan in 83 loved Dawn Patrol first time I heard it, moved to London , met some people but the person that became my best friend and me bonded over Nightranger and bought Midnight madness on release a firm favourite. Icon bought all 3 on Ebay after Butch kept talking about them and like all 3. Hated and avoided Chicago because of those 2 songs Pete persuaded me to try them in lockdown but said stop at XI so I did, really liked them which surprised myself, listening to 17 he was everyone should stop at XI.😂. Steven, my favourite is II maybe try that but if you don’t like horns doubt you’ll like any.
Hi guys..all the way from hamilton new Zealand..really enjoy your shows and massive fan of Pete..after being into rock and metal iv only just got an original mca copy on cd of midnight madness..i have big life and want dawn patrol and 7 wishes..i have all icons cds..both bands are fantastic..😊 cheers lads
Entertaining episode as always! after getting some bad news earlier today I really needed to smile. Thank You Gentlemen! Love Midnight Madness! The Icon record I haven't listened to in a while and I enjoyed it more today than I did back in the day. my friends band used to open their shows with Raise The Hammer! great song they did it heavier than Icon... lol Chicago 17 is unlistenable for me. I Tried! lol!
Night of The Crime is a stunning album; credit has to go to the main writer who was not in the band Bob Halligan Jr. Eddie Kramer and the band also put in fine performances - Aquilino/Wexler and Stephen Clifford (who effectively ended their momentum by leaving after the release) et al - fine job, brilliant album.
You guys are so much fun. Thanks for the Saturday night laughs. "Midnight Madness"; my opinion, great album but I never could stand "Sister Christian". It was a hard song to escape in '84. The rest of the album was real solid. Still listen to it quite often.
Hey guys, actually managed to listen to this tonight - albeit not in one go. Enjoying a bottle of Old Hooky, from the Hook Norton brewery... Interesting opinions on Night Ranger and Icon, both bands I have loved since I first heard them so I'm a bit biased. That said, MM is probably only my fourth favourite 'Ranger album, (Dawn Patrol, 7 Wishes, Neverland are 1-3) but I love them almost as much as I love Journey and Foreigner. And more than Boston, if I'm honest... I love both those first 2 ICON albums, despite the shift in style, and adore Clifford's voice, one of the great losses to the genre. I actually saw them live, with Jerry Harrison it must be said, supporting, of all bands, KINGS X, in Edinburgh - both bands were on Megaforce Records at the time. I only went for Icon, and Dan Wexlers guitar pick, pressed into my hand when he shook it, is still tucked into the front of my NOTC CD to this day. CHICAGO 17 is an album I've never heard all the way through as the singles were overplayed, overproduced and anodyne, and I'm with Steven all the way on this one. I've tried the early stuff too, but that didn't work for me either. I think the over- pervasive horns put me off.... Looking forward tobthe RAINBOW episode, another band I've loved forever...
Wow, great choices this time round! Not really familiar with the Chicago one as most of their later stuff is too bland, even for an AOR nut like myself, BUT... Midnight Madness, nothing really 'meh' about this one, which I'm guessing is this editions "Classic" based on the fact that Sister Christian is on it and was a huge hit! And my love for ICON is perhaps a tad excessive, but NOTC should have been massive, with only, admittedly, the naffness (lyrically at least) of Rock My Radio letting down an otherwise 10/10 album. Looking forward to listening, and will be commenting again afterwards- may not be today though, lots on this weekend!
Night Ranger midnight madness is an aor classic and is chock full of awesome hooks and melodies as for Chicago 17 although not my favorite but its still a fun album
Icon was set to get a huge push with the release of NOTC, Capital had put a lot into it. Then the singer quit and before they could finish mixing the record the Executive who signed and was pushing them was fired. Game over, never even made a second pressing. Even in their home town it was hard to find a copy of the record. I went to the record release party at the world famous Mason Jar and the next day could not find a copy of the record at the local record shop a mile from that venue.
Night Ranger, I was a fan in the 80s, bought all their albums up to Big Life, they fell off my radar after that. I thought they'd split because I think Damn Yankees was around mid to late 80s. Not that familiar with Icon. Chicago, mmmmm, I just couldn't get past the horns. However, I've since tried because of SoT, after Pete persuaded me to look past the horns. I don't mind them now, but still struggle. To be honest I very rarely listen to Chicago, but might revisit the early albums.
Session players and David Foster aside, Chicago 17 isn’t terrible, but it’s not that great. Danny Seraphine only plays on half the album, Peter Cetera only plays bass on Stay The Night, and there isn’t much in the way of horns on it. I love Dawn Patrol just a bit more but Midnight Madness is still a classic. Icon is relatively new to me but I like what heard from them.
Agreed on the Srangeways album! No, I hadn't heard Twlight Cruiser - just rectified that right now. Wow - love it! Hadn't expected the strong Pink Floyd vibe and I'm really impressed.
That's an excellent song and album overall. Like most of their material post "In Your Face," it flew under the radar, yet amazingly enough they (Lenny) managed to release album after album pretty consistently, and in my opinion, they were all pretty good records. Good call.
I don't get the shade cast at Chicago 17. The polish and Foster- smoothness is part of the magic. I totally disagree with Steven. I loved 17 from day one on release and it holds up...even with now 20/20 hindsight of production.
It's poppy alright bit I like it, less today though than back then. Speaking of Chicago producers, Peter Wolf worked with everybody in the genre back in the day from Starship to Heart or Survivor to Lou Gramm. Even worked with Frank Zappa in the '70s and '80s and produced the dreaded Face II Face by Scorpions, his Wikipedia reads like a who's who of AOR.
Opening fun fact: Ron Nevison worked with all 3 of today's bands at some point, he really did get around for a while didn't he? Put me down as another who in theory should love Night Ranger, but barely likes them (the Greatest Hits is enough for me and that doesn't see the light of day often) , but I'll (mostly) align with Uncle Simon on Chicago 17 (and you always have to say Chicago before the number of any Chicago album when naming it, no matter what anybody says). I actually think it's good, at least as good as slick 80s Adult contemporary pop/(very soft) rock can be. But whether or not it's a good album it's certainly a terrible CHICAGO album, so I understand fans who hate it (but I do believe no band who made good/great 70s music made music half as good in the 80s, the difference is most bands went back to their classic 70s sound after eventually realising this, while Chicago kept trying to replicate the success of this, and failing on all levels. Pity). And I'll sign off with the final fun fact that Stay the Night is the (only) track on here to feature Jeff Porcaro, with Carlos Vega being similarly uncredited on You're the Inspiration - Danny Seraphine understandably wasn't pleased and it's the earliest sign of him being slowly edged out of the band - Cetera is still the only original member to have left by choice, rather than death (Kath), sacking (Seraphine) or illness (Parazaider).
First time listening to all 3: *. Night Ranger - Midnight Madness (couple of ok songs/couple I didn't like at all. Mostly meh. Best song: 'Passion Play') ***. Icon - Night of the Crime (Bunch of good songs. not 'Rock My Radio'. Best: the run from 'Missing' thru 'Out For Blood') *. Chicago 17 (meh. Best 'Only You')
Prepping to watch this episode, I tried to get through all three albums. Very much enjoyed the Icon album, which reminded me of a more musically celebratory time I really miss. I enjoyed the Night Ranger album as well, taking me back to the classic MTV days and the time I saw them live in the mid 90's. I tried to get through Chicago 17...I really tried...but it's just...so...Mind-Numbingly...BORING!!!! I felt my brain shrinking as I listened, so had to bail about half way through. GOD how I loathe David Foster.
I am getting to the point if F**king KISS are mentioned again I am off. Every show and every genre. That comedy band are mentioned on every post I can just about take Rush every show and Iron Maiden but Kiss it is only good ! when Ken Golden vents his anger and I am with him. Grifters. P.S I do not own a branded lunch box or a coffin.
Icon - Night of the crime is amazing I still have original press from 1985 and I love it I still listen to it today.
The Icon is an absolute masterpiece. Love every song, listen to it often!
Saturday afternoon here in NJ. USA 🇺🇸/. Beers 🍺/ laughs/ music 🎵. You three crush it. Bi- monthly. 👍💯
Gary, sorry I missed you guys, I was doing the same thing having a few beers and listening to some prog rock/metal outside putting up my Xmas lights. See ya soon my friend
@@kenwhite8103 / absolutely 👍/ enjoy- see ya in AM 👍💯
Hey Steven, I had an Old Jock when we were in Scotland in July. I thought it was really good. I love a good Scotch Ale. Cheers🍻
Great episode again. Chicago 17 is a great pop aor record. Icon is a very good band and Night of the crime is their best. Midnight madness, well a classic!
Yeah big love to Charlie Dominici's family and friends. I ❤ #whendreamanddayunite
Thanks for another great show. Love the beer discussion at the start. I like real ales like you guys. I find that the Old Jock a tad sweet for my pallette
Of the albums I only bought one at the time ,I like Simon,have a copy of Chicago 17 on cassette. I also like this album.
Night ranger is a band I discovered with he 7 wishes album ,still my favourite. I did eventually get the Midnight Madness album,again an enjoyable album
Missed out on Icon .will need to go to UA-cam or other streaming channels to listen to it.
Looking forward to Rainbow discussion,Still one of my favourite bands.
Chicago should be applauded for continuing after Terry Kath's passing. I can't imagine what it was like for them to lose such an amazing talent in the most tragic circumstances. But it was the contributions of all the members that made them such an awesome band, so it's not like they were always going to be doomed without him. It was David Foster who ruined them.
That’s the tough choice that all bands who lose an inspirational member have to make. Metallica is another example.
Good point. Kath was once in a lifetime
Great show guys, Midnight madness is fantastic, Night of the crime is such a great record also....but I'm with Simon here I'm taking Chicago 17 with me. Its a time and place thing I think but I love it.
What a great show gents, great picks this time around! I love Night Ranger (top 10 band for me) so obviously I have Midnight Madness high on my list (my favorite from this time). Not the biggest fan of Sister Christian but the rest is great! Icon is a fantastic album too so that would be my 2nd, I'm not the biggest ChicagoAoR Era fan I prefer the Terry Katz Chicago although cetera is an amazing singer.
Great to see some coverage on Icon guys! I first caught them on the Metal Shop radio show (anyone remember?) back in the day, where they played "Out for Blood" and I immediately went out and got "Night of the Crime" and the self-titled debut, and wore out the tape on both of them. Sure, the debut was a little heavier and rough around the edges, compared to this one, but it was more or less synonymous with the transition many bands made from '84 to '85, particularly on majors, charged with producing the pop-radio hit and rock anthem.
To echo what's already been said, Icon had all the parts in place to make an impact, then suddenly vanished. If they could have landed an opening gig with a major act and rode the wave through the '80s, who knows how far they could have gone. They would have died on the vine in the '90s like the rest of those bands but at least would have some legacy to speak of and potentially re-emerged on Frontiers once melodic rock returned to prominence. They certainly had the talent. I'll disagree with Simon in that Steven Clifford as a vocalist was definitely distinctive and in my mind, a difference-maker. Consider the 1989 "Right Between the Eyes" comeback. It was a pretty good album overall, but you'd hardly recognize it as Icon--totally different sounding singer and they'd probably have been better off renaming the band. Worth checking out in any case.
I recall a few years back that the original Icon, including Clifford, was getting back together and doing an album. I suppose it probably won't happen, but then again, other underground "classics" have come back around to varying degrees, so why not give it another shot? Anyway, great record, top to bottom.
Night Ranger: "Passion Play" should have been a hit. Good guitar hooks, catchy chorus. Chicago: "Stay the Night" was a good tune--and video. Is that on this album? LOL
Entertaining show yet again gents! Never heard the Icon album will have to check that out.
Icon is seriously awesome! Some of the best AOR albums ever
"Solid" episode Gents😁
I'm going with a nice tall glass of iced tea this week. Being lazy about this week's assignment. Never heard Icon. Remember the video for 'Stay the Night', and like the song. Listened alot to 'Midnight Maddnes' on my Walkman when I would go for a run (it was on a rotation with Steve Walsh's band Streets)at the time. Interested to hear Steven's thoughts on CTA.
Also, enjoying my navy blue UKC tee.✌️& 🎶🔊
I've seen Night Ranger live a few times through the 2000's and 2010's, and they were quite impressive.
Night of the Crime is the greatest AOR album of all-time, in my opinion. A masterpiece! Its the perfect balance of heavy and melodic. Also, the production is fantastic! Courtesy of the great Eddie Kramer.
Just read Steven's review of the latest Sahg release. I saw them playing with Audrey Horne in Glasgow a few years back. Both bands were excellent. Was heartbreaking how few people bothered to turn up
After listening to Scot, and his piece on The Prog Corner about Chicago, I had a long listen to them (whilst ironing). Mmmm they never were really big in the UK!
I would suggest perhaps having a look at the 'More Perfect Union' that Icon did in 1987. It was only ever released on cassette and in a very limited capacy, although there was a cd reissue later on with a few bonus tracks included.
The reason I suggested this is that Icon went full on AOR on this album and I think it would be great for the show.
The only issue would be that the tracks are extremely hard to find on the internet (they certainly aren't on youtube last time I checked) and copies of the album can be fairly pricey
A metal fan in 83 loved Dawn Patrol first time I heard it, moved to London , met some people but the person that became my best friend and me bonded over Nightranger and bought Midnight madness on release a firm favourite.
Icon bought all 3 on Ebay after Butch kept talking about them and like all 3.
Hated and avoided Chicago because of those 2 songs Pete persuaded me to try them in lockdown but said stop at XI so I did, really liked them which surprised myself, listening to 17 he was everyone should stop at XI.😂.
Steven, my favourite is II maybe try that but if you don’t like horns doubt you’ll like any.
Hi guys..all the way from hamilton new Zealand..really enjoy your shows and massive fan of Pete..after being into rock and metal iv only just got an original mca copy on cd of midnight madness..i have big life and want dawn patrol and 7 wishes..i have all icons cds..both bands are fantastic..😊 cheers lads
New Zealand awesome! Glad you enjoyed the show I got all the cds you mentioned too :)
GREAT EPISODE!
I like the icon album right between the eyes alot and night ranger was always a favorite
Only Chicago I own is 16 which I love. 17 is absolute muck!!!!
Entertaining episode as always! after getting some bad news earlier today I really needed to smile. Thank You Gentlemen!
Love Midnight Madness! The Icon record I haven't listened to in a while and I enjoyed it more today than I did back in the day.
my friends band used to open their shows with Raise The Hammer! great song they did it heavier than Icon... lol
Chicago 17 is unlistenable for me. I Tried! lol!
Night of The Crime is a stunning album; credit has to go to the main writer who was not in the band Bob Halligan Jr. Eddie Kramer and the band also put in fine performances - Aquilino/Wexler and Stephen Clifford (who effectively ended their momentum by leaving after the release) et al - fine job, brilliant album.
"Midnight Madness" is their greatest album in my opinion. The artwork is corny, but suits the title well!
I only heard about Icon after the axe killer release of night of the crime, they were releasing all these underground classics back in late 90s.
You guys are so much fun. Thanks for the Saturday night laughs. "Midnight Madness"; my opinion, great album but I never could stand "Sister Christian". It was a hard song to escape in '84. The rest of the album was real solid. Still listen to it quite often.
I agree for me the worst song on the album but the rest is great!
I think there's something special and still haunting about the song, I think "Let Him Run" is the real (underrated) gem on the album though.
Hey guys, actually managed to listen to this tonight - albeit not in one go. Enjoying a bottle of Old Hooky, from the Hook Norton brewery...
Interesting opinions on Night Ranger and Icon, both bands I have loved since I first heard them so I'm a bit biased.
That said, MM is probably only my fourth favourite 'Ranger album, (Dawn Patrol, 7 Wishes, Neverland are 1-3) but I love them almost as much as I love Journey and Foreigner. And more than Boston, if I'm honest...
I love both those first 2 ICON albums, despite the shift in style, and adore Clifford's voice, one of the great losses to the genre.
I actually saw them live, with Jerry Harrison it must be said, supporting, of all bands, KINGS X, in Edinburgh - both bands were on Megaforce Records at the time. I only went for Icon, and Dan Wexlers guitar pick, pressed into my hand when he shook it, is still tucked into the front of my NOTC CD to this day.
CHICAGO 17 is an album I've never heard all the way through as the singles were overplayed, overproduced and anodyne, and I'm with Steven all the way on this one.
I've tried the early stuff too, but that didn't work for me either. I think the over- pervasive horns put me off....
Looking forward tobthe RAINBOW episode, another band I've loved forever...
Wow, great choices this time round! Not really familiar with the Chicago one as most of their later stuff is too bland, even for an AOR nut like myself, BUT...
Midnight Madness, nothing really 'meh' about this one, which I'm guessing is this editions "Classic" based on the fact that Sister Christian is on it and was a huge hit!
And my love for ICON is perhaps a tad excessive, but NOTC should have been massive, with only, admittedly, the naffness (lyrically at least) of Rock My Radio letting down an otherwise 10/10 album.
Looking forward to listening, and will be commenting again afterwards- may not be today though, lots on this weekend!
Guess if you're doing melodic Chicago that would be Chicago 16 and on I take it?
Or the 80s soft Rock ballad years AKA David Foster syrup
Nice video...
Night Ranger midnight madness is an aor classic and is chock full of awesome hooks and melodies as for Chicago 17 although not my favorite but its still a fun album
Icon was set to get a huge push with the release of NOTC, Capital had put a lot into it. Then the singer quit and before they could finish mixing the record the Executive who signed and was pushing them was fired. Game over, never even made a second pressing. Even in their home town it was hard to find a copy of the record.
I went to the record release party at the world famous Mason Jar and the next day could not find a copy of the record at the local record shop a mile from that venue.
Night Ranger, I was a fan in the 80s, bought all their albums up to Big Life, they fell off my radar after that. I thought they'd split because I think Damn Yankees was around mid to late 80s. Not that familiar with Icon. Chicago, mmmmm, I just couldn't get past the horns. However, I've since tried because of SoT, after Pete persuaded me to look past the horns. I don't mind them now, but still struggle. To be honest I very rarely listen to Chicago, but might revisit the early albums.
“ A pile of wank “. Simon deals out at least one classic each episode.
I'm really curious what time Pete is recording this 😄🍻
Late afternoon, just before dinner.
I am with Steven and Martin on Chicago, too. I have their first 5 albums, but I only like one song. I tried.
ICON Arizona's Own
Had to switch on closed captions and still had no clue what was going on
Session players and David Foster aside, Chicago 17 isn’t terrible, but it’s not that great. Danny Seraphine only plays on half the album, Peter Cetera only plays bass on Stay The Night, and there isn’t much in the way of horns on it. I love Dawn Patrol just a bit more but Midnight Madness is still a classic. Icon is relatively new to me but I like what heard from them.
Chicago 16 is in this soft rock ball park too, "Hard to Say I'm Sorry" was the big hit there.
@@LarryFleetwood8675I agree to an extent. At least 16 sounded a bit more like a traditional Chicago album.
Strangeways Native sons killer album
To Steve have you heard Twilight cruiser by Kingdom come f great song.
Agreed on the Srangeways album!
No, I hadn't heard Twlight Cruiser - just rectified that right now. Wow - love it! Hadn't expected the strong Pink Floyd vibe and I'm really impressed.
That's an excellent song and album overall. Like most of their material post "In Your Face," it flew under the radar, yet amazingly enough they (Lenny) managed to release album after album pretty consistently, and in my opinion, they were all pretty good records. Good call.
I don't get the shade cast at Chicago 17. The polish and Foster- smoothness is part of the magic. I totally disagree with Steven. I loved 17 from day one on release and it holds up...even with now 20/20 hindsight of production.
It's poppy alright bit I like it, less today though than back then. Speaking of Chicago producers, Peter Wolf worked with everybody in the genre back in the day from Starship to Heart or Survivor to Lou Gramm. Even worked with Frank Zappa in the '70s and '80s and produced the dreaded Face II Face by Scorpions, his Wikipedia reads like a who's who of AOR.
You guys seem to have forgotten "Hot Streets", aka "Not Chicago XII!"
Opening fun fact: Ron Nevison worked with all 3 of today's bands at some point, he really did get around for a while didn't he? Put me down as another who in theory should love Night Ranger, but barely likes them (the Greatest Hits is enough for me and that doesn't see the light of day often) , but I'll (mostly) align with Uncle Simon on Chicago 17 (and you always have to say Chicago before the number of any Chicago album when naming it, no matter what anybody says).
I actually think it's good, at least as good as slick 80s Adult contemporary pop/(very soft) rock can be. But whether or not it's a good album it's certainly a terrible CHICAGO album, so I understand fans who hate it (but I do believe no band who made good/great 70s music made music half as good in the 80s, the difference is most bands went back to their classic 70s sound after eventually realising this, while Chicago kept trying to replicate the success of this, and failing on all levels. Pity).
And I'll sign off with the final fun fact that Stay the Night is the (only) track on here to feature Jeff Porcaro, with Carlos Vega being similarly uncredited on You're the Inspiration - Danny Seraphine understandably wasn't pleased and it's the earliest sign of him being slowly edged out of the band - Cetera is still the only original member to have left by choice, rather than death (Kath), sacking (Seraphine) or illness (Parazaider).
And Stay The Night is the only song on the album where Peter plays an actual bass guitar.
Charlie Dominici RIP
First time listening to all 3:
*. Night Ranger - Midnight Madness (couple of ok songs/couple I didn't like at all. Mostly meh. Best song: 'Passion Play')
***. Icon - Night of the Crime (Bunch of good songs. not 'Rock My Radio'. Best: the run from 'Missing' thru 'Out For Blood')
*. Chicago 17 (meh. Best 'Only You')
Prepping to watch this episode, I tried to get through all three albums. Very much enjoyed the Icon album, which reminded me of a more musically celebratory time I really miss. I enjoyed the Night Ranger album as well, taking me back to the classic MTV days and the time I saw them live in the mid 90's. I tried to get through Chicago 17...I really tried...but it's just...so...Mind-Numbingly...BORING!!!! I felt my brain shrinking as I listened, so had to bail about half way through. GOD how I loathe David Foster.
After 17 I checked out on Chicago. Not interested in what came afterwards.
I take it that you won't be doing a favourite and least favourite Chicago episode guys! 😂
I prefer Chicago 19 over 17 and Peter was not even there.
I am getting to the point if F**king KISS are mentioned again I am off. Every show and every genre. That comedy band are mentioned on every post I can just about take Rush every show and Iron Maiden but Kiss it is only good ! when Ken Golden vents his anger and I am with him. Grifters. P.S I do not own a branded lunch box or a coffin.