Lebron is great but Mt. Rushmore doesn't allow players with Losing Finals Records and No Dynasty .... 4-6=40%. Get real. Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Russell Reply
Straight facts!!! This dude is #1 all time in scoring, #4 all time in assists, so many mvps and 4 time NBA Champion what more can you do! We’ll never see a dude like him again ❤
what standards? Having a winning record in the Finals? Not needing to manufacture teams with all stars and superstars just to compete? Competing against your contemporaries and not wanting to join them? Not choking in Big games down the stretch? Exactly what standards is he held to higher than anyone else?
@@remnant8898 you say this as if lebron hasn’t taken multiple teams with 0 other all stars to the finals which no other player can consistently do and everything else you said is bs ngl
No, we're simply holding him to the standards that were set by the players that came before him. I have no idea why y'all cannot grasp that. It's like pulling damn teeth with your bare hands.
Doesn't matter if you think he's the goat. As a basketball fan I respect that this man stepped into the league with more hype behind him than anybody in the history of sports and delivered for the next 20 years. At 18. Edit: With all due respect to soccer fans it's not the same. It's more common for a talented 18 year old to play soccer professionally, and be successful than doing the same in the NBA. The expectations extend far beyond the court in the US for one. Going against 2 billion dollar business interests, the NCAA, and the NBA to name another. The list is infinite.
I completely agree with you on the bron front you’re also right about it not being the same between soccer and basketball. It’s way more impressive for the soccer guys to do what they do for a number of reasons. That being the truth does not at all take away from the absolutely ridiculously impressive career and achievements of lebron but just because you don’t like soccer doesn’t mean it’s less impressive.
@Hayden Nix Those reasons? Not the same. Amateur systems globally compared to the US is galaxies apart.Talented young soccer players are groomed to play professionally. Until recently amateur sports was controlled by the NCAA. Only baseball and hockey were exceptions due to their amateur leagues. Trus it's different. Why you think we started sending pros to the Olympics.
Give me a break SAS.. LeBron is held to ridiculous standards that not even other greats were held to.. its Absurd, whenever he does anything Media shift the goalpost to discredit this dude! I dont care if you think Jordan or Kareem is the Goat, there's no debate on who gets scrutinized more for less.
exactly! he could go out and put up 40 and media people like SAS with go out of their way to discredit it and say oh well he should’ve had 50. goes out and hits 50 and they again find new ways to hate on him and call him trash and say he should’ve had 60. he could rack up 15 assists too and they’ll discredit that and say he should’ve had 20. could shoot 60%+ and they’ll say that’s trash he should shoot 100% every game. it’s an endless media issue that always finds ways to scrutinize just because they can for clicks and likes.
Lebron is once of lifetime player, one incredible story, who ever is watching this man play or who has watched him play, it's a honor. This man has changed the game of basketball, inspired millions on and off the court, is great father figure to his kids, great role model, has surpassed to many expectations. LongLiveTheKing... Give people there flowers while there here!❤ Rip Kobe,Gigi. Legends never die
Kobe gets disrespected so much! I can understand younger people doing it because they never saw him play. But when adults don't put kobe up their makes me sick. Dude has 5 chips. 2 without shaq. Top like 5 on points list. Closest to mj. And yet they put lebron up on the list. And kareeem who played in a era where it was all skinny weak guys. Kobe def is 2
He and most of those on ESPN move the goal posts on him everytime he does anything. No other players in NBA history were ever held to the standard that he has been held to.
Wild enough, people were doing the same thing to Kobe while he was alive and now everybody loves him coincidentally. Give him love now while he’s still here to enjoy it.
Micheal jordan may be the greatest basketball player of all time, at least in my eyes, but even if he’s not the best there will be nothing ever like him. Hes made 10finals appearances, 19 all star games (i think), alltime leadint scorer and more, he’s the goat of our era, and i sure as hell wouldn’t blame you if you said all time
@@CuriusOdus11 he's not even the GOTE. Can't be the greatest of your era, when you've lost more than you won in your era, and those in your era won the same with a better win ratio.
@@remnant8898 I hear you, but you can attribute that to him playing good teams. It’s ironic though as Lebron fans who say he had tough opposition are then quick to dismiss Jordan going out twice early in his career to the best team of the 80s stacked with 5 HoFers while he had zero support, or losing to a Pistons team stacked with four All Stars while he had none playing with him. 😂
@@CuriusOdus11 I hear that, but no all time great has won chips without playing on good teams. Bron has had more help in the 2010s and still came up short more than he won. What you said is true, and LeBron fans like to dismiss the first 7 years of his career losing to teams who weren't even as stacked and also in an inferior conference.
Lebron is great but Mt. Rushmore doesn't allow players with Losing Finals Records and No Dynasty .... 4-6=40%. Get real. Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Russell
@@jaydubb2005 thank you he would be the only great on the mt Rushmore with no dynasty and a losing record when those guys you named have nothing but greatness attached to there names team wise and individually
Those fans back in the day elevated those players as well instead of comparing MJ to Wilt. We try to keep Lebron off mount Rushmore and dude keeps pushing and proving ppl wrong.
And yet you come with a hating a** comment….WHY? Every body who handles the ball travels and Carrie’s in the NBA….it’s so common it’s not worth calling. It’s not gonna kill you to acknowledge LeBron for the things he’s accomplished, stop being so miserable trying to point the negative
I been saying this, bro been In the league long as I’ve been alive, I’m about to be 22 this year…it’s definitely gone be weird seeing Him not play anymore
Give me Dirk, Duncan, Jordan, Kareem, Shaq, etc. over Lebron any day. Bro needed a superteam to win all of his rings. He's a regular season player, but when it comes to the post-season he needs help. A GOAT doesn't need help. A GOAT can carry. But lebron needed Wade, Kyrie, and prime AD to win anything. Steph, Giannis, and Jokic didn't need any superstars to help them. And bro got swept I don't know how many times. Dude walks around every place he goes chanting that he's the GOAT. Dude is on The mount Rushmore though. the Mount Rushmore of cornballs, ill give him that.
The most discredit thing about LeBron is when he had the Balls & came back to the CAVS to make history. I feel like he get‘s more unappreciated when he leave the NBA bcs of his waiste of Finals.
Listen at the end of the day Lebron surpassed what he was supposed to live up to, society expecting him to 3 peat once or twice like Jordan & the bulls is insane especially with the way the league has so many talented teams now
I’ll always say that about LeBron, he was in high school getting compared to the greatest players of all time. You look at any other player, and there’s no comparison to the pressure he had to be great. Take Luka, Steph, Giannis, Joker for example all these guys can fail in their career and no one bats an eye. LeBron is so talented that NOT winning in the finals hurt him. Even though he made it with guys like Dellavadova, JR Smith, and Iglauskas being his 2nd option… yet the expectation is to beat the toughest teams of all time. This is after he stayed in Cleveland for the first half of his career… he’s one of the greatest to ever do it. Imo, the best all things considered
I’m guilty of criticizing LeBron but Stephen A is right. As a CLE kid, I watched almost every game he played here. LeBron has been unfairly compared to Jordan since the beginning of his career. Never had a chance to surprise anyone because all his accomplishments were expected. LeBron says he’s the goat because that’s all anyone talks about, so I don’t blame him. Jordan is the goat though.
The only thing unfair to lebron James was comparing him to Jordan because i don’t think when he first started playing in the league his motivation was to be like MJ he wanted to be LBJ and the Cavs put that 23 on his back and the fans and media was smoking that gas bruh did him that’s what matters
I can think of 5 or 6 guys I'd put ahead of him . Mike is #1 Kobe #2 Kareem #3 Larry Bird #4 Bill Russell #5 Julius Erving #6 then LeBron just my opinion.
The only reason I could think about why these people treat LeBron like that is that they never let him grow as a player. They put so much pressure on him ever since he was 18 that they never realized that they were hindering Lebron's growth. And when LeBron fails to meet their criteria they will criticize. On the other hand if LeBron surpassed their expectations they either brush it off or find a reason why player x is still much better since he accomplished it in a more respected way.
although i'm a warriors fan and lebron ruined what could've been a 4 peat for us, there's no denying he's one of the goats. lebron is so naturally smart not to mention his photographic memory. also 6'8 250lbs of pure muscle. there will never be another lebron and the league is gonna be so weird without him
He took a dump on that mountain, when he proclaim himself the GOAT. That is not the way one can reach the top. That laugh behind Dirks back.... He is top 10, and that is huge. When he retire we will see where his rank is
@D J They said he could be next MJ, he has his shoot at miami and didnt deliver, lebron is not top 3, mj, bill karem are top 3 and after those you have magic, bird and lebron in any order, and people who believe basketball is offense and defense will have kobe and duncam over lebron, so top 3 is a hard stament, he is with not doubt top 10, and debatable top 5 and definitely not top 3. Lebron Ring and stats dont add up to be considered top 3.
“The real 23” bro what does that even mean💀 he liked Jordan growing up so what? He wore 23 so tf what, idk why y’all are comparing it like he tried to BE MJ when in reality he’s just a better player than him and y’all can’t get outta the 90s, like you do know Jordan was drafted in 1984 right? And didn’t win his first ring until his 7th year in the league the Cavs front office didn’t do their job in putting talent around LeBron to help him win earlier so he had to leave
I notice that Steven A keeps Kobe Bryant's name out of his mouth. whenever he talk about top three players in the world . And he never puts Kobe Bryant in that top three . And I know for a fact Kobe Bryant is always going to be in that list. so I'm kind of thinking Kobe and this guy did not get along at all. And Steven has lost all credibility to me as a NBA analyst. Simply because he doesn't know how to identify legendary.
That might be because he doesnt rate Kobe that highly. Its not the first time he's said Lebron is #2 behind. He's been consistent with that stance for years. And you cant say that SAS doesnt like Kobe, its well-known that they were friends. Maybe its your "Kobe is my favorite player so he must be the best ever" mindset that is the real problem.
I never understood why he is so disproportionately hated compared to other greats, like yea criticize him, but so many people I see in UA-cam comments say he isn’t even top 5 and set the goalpost further for him then anyone else.
@@Madden-Frangrance-Champ Jordan is 1-9 w/o pippen never beat Boston or won anything in the 80s please dnt say cud Boston was stacked n jordan was by him self cuz wen I say dat bout Bron y’all don’t be wanting to hear nan so let’s be consistent with your judgement n as great as kobe was he struggled early which goat Neva had n he wasn’t always da best player in his team which is why he only has 2 finals mvp to brons 4
Bron gets respect Curry literally changed how the entire league plays the game and still is the best shooter currently top 5 handles and still doesn’t make the top 10 cut while having equal championships to Lebron in Less seasons. Kawhi is the Best Defensive player in the league. All they do is bash him for taking the time to keep his body in shape. He’s the guy Lebron hates to have guarding him because he’s good at it and still gets buckets. He’s physically closest to MJ of any player and gets slandered. Lebron gets credit by being in the discussion of the Mount Rushmore. The other 2 don’t and that without the disrespect while KOBE was alive which I can never forget or forgive. He gets hate but others have received more disrespect
None of those guys have the same resume. The three guys you mentioned had one fewer combined regular-season MVP but one more combined finals MVP. Like it or not. MVPs carry way more weight than all-defense selections or DPOY. Along with the records, Lebron has the closest MVP cabinet Jordan and Kareem. That is why rated higher.
The most interesting thing is hes not even done yet. To be compared to the greats when you still have more left than the tank is the greatest respect you can ever earn!!
The reason he gets so much hate is cuz he talks to damn much and is his own biggest fan. He’s def amongst the greats but when you repeatedly say your the goat It takes away from the feeling
Haters will hate, and MJ/Kobe/Kareem fans will present arguments as to why their respective GOATs are the real NBA 🐐… but there isn’s a single basketball player IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA who has collectively done as much as lebron has for the game, current and ex-teammates, social justice, and player image. In his 20 year career, he has not only never had any personal controversy, but he has also demonstrated a near-perfect work-family-extracurricular balance. Imo, GOAT doesnt just mean “best” basketball player. GOAT means greatest of ALL time. It means that out of all the players who graced the NBA, this one individual is the greatest. Not just in terms of playing the game, but managing life in and outside basketball. To me,
Lebron has been my favorite since day 1 vs Sacramento. I've been telling people hating on him they're gonna miss not paying attention, guys like him are once in a generation
So because a man believes he's the best that's a problem for you? So of you have kids you not gonna feel like you the GOAT of dads? Because if not then your life sucks and so does everyone in your family tree
It’s hard to really make an argument for anyone else at this point. This guy is head and shoulders above mike or Kareem as a basketball player. Can’t even deny it anymore
I will acknowledge that I have reached a tremendous level of respect for Lebron James. In my eyes he will never be better than Michael Jordan nor Kobe Bryant, but he does means as much to the game of basketball as they did when they were playing. He is one of the few athletes who has set an example of excellence for athletes both inside and outside their sport. As Stephen A smith said, we as basketball fans will miss him when he is gone.
He makes the game so good he will be missed when he’s gone and your children will ask where were you when he was playing? And if you say you were hating… that will look foolish on you. I’m talking about when it’s all said and done
What other player on your top ten jumped teams and ran to play with other all stars when they couldnt get it done? Not a player that got traded by the team they played for.
Top 3 impossible: He is top 10 for sure, top 5 debatable, betwen lebron, bird and magic i do not see a clear winner, comes down to preference and over those 3 we have MJ, bill and karem clear cut over the rest. You also can make arguments for kobe and tim duncam over lebron. Because as complete players, 2-way player, defense way higher than lebron and offense on par.
Lebron has done this to himself. If he'd given the other generations their credit and not declared himself better, we all would have let him be the goat of his generation and sung his praises instead of knocking him off the pedestal he made for himself.
Bout time Smith. Give LeBron some credit. You don’t understand what you are witnessing.
I concur
Lebron is great but Mt. Rushmore doesn't allow players with Losing Finals Records and No Dynasty .... 4-6=40%.
Get real. Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Russell
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Le superteams after losing time after time is all I see, I won’t miss this 🤡
@@jaydubb2005 let me guess another Toronto fan.
@@jaydubb2005 we have located the meat rider
Appreciate him while you can. Don't take LeBron for granted. He's 1 of 1.
Straight facts!!! This dude is #1 all time in scoring, #4 all time in assists, so many mvps and 4 time NBA Champion what more can you do! We’ll never see a dude like him again ❤
Jordan still the Goat though
@@audread_ i agree, but I still wish LeBron didn't get so many negative comments.
@@blueicydasani4543 respect to him
@@audread_ I new to basket ball and from engalnd and wince I haven't seen jordon play live I say lebron my goat
The problem is that they hold him to standards higher than those greats and they've been holding him to these standards since he was 18 years old. 😅
what standards? Having a winning record in the Finals? Not needing to manufacture teams with all stars and superstars just to compete? Competing against your contemporaries and not wanting to join them? Not choking in Big games down the stretch? Exactly what standards is he held to higher than anyone else?
@@remnant8898 you say this as if lebron hasn’t taken multiple teams with 0 other all stars to the finals which no other player can consistently do and everything else you said is bs ngl
No, we're simply holding him to the standards that were set by the players that came before him. I have no idea why y'all cannot grasp that.
It's like pulling damn teeth with your bare hands.
@@atlien1988 name one 18 year old told that he's a bust and a failure if he doesn't become one of the greatest of all time? I'll wait 😂👀
@@remnant8898 name one 18 year old told that he's a bust and a failure if he doesn't become one of the greatest of all time? I'll wait 😂👀
This man has been playing since before I was born and still dominating. Incredible.
Doesn't matter if you think he's the goat. As a basketball fan I respect that this man stepped into the league with more hype behind him than anybody in the history of sports and delivered for the next 20 years. At 18.
Edit: With all due respect to soccer fans it's not the same. It's more common for a talented 18 year old to play soccer professionally, and be successful than doing the same in the NBA. The expectations extend far beyond the court in the US for one. Going against 2 billion dollar business interests, the NCAA, and the NBA to name another. The list is infinite.
Not only did he deliver, he even exceded beyond our expectations.
He lived up to it and surpassed it
Unlike Ben Simmons & Zion smh
I completely agree with you on the bron front you’re also right about it not being the same between soccer and basketball. It’s way more impressive for the soccer guys to do what they do for a number of reasons. That being the truth does not at all take away from the absolutely ridiculously impressive career and achievements of lebron but just because you don’t like soccer doesn’t mean it’s less impressive.
@Hayden Nix Those reasons? Not the same. Amateur systems globally compared to the US is galaxies apart.Talented young soccer players are groomed to play professionally. Until recently amateur sports was controlled by the NCAA. Only baseball and hockey were exceptions due to their amateur leagues. Trus it's different. Why you think we started sending pros to the Olympics.
Give me a break SAS.. LeBron is held to ridiculous standards that not even other greats were held to.. its Absurd, whenever he does anything Media shift the goalpost to discredit this dude!
I dont care if you think Jordan or Kareem is the Goat, there's no debate on who gets scrutinized more for less.
exactly! he could go out and put up 40 and media people like SAS with go out of their way to discredit it and say oh well he should’ve had 50. goes out and hits 50 and they again find new ways to hate on him and call him trash and say he should’ve had 60. he could rack up 15 assists too and they’ll discredit that and say he should’ve had 20. could shoot 60%+ and they’ll say that’s trash he should shoot 100% every game. it’s an endless media issue that always finds ways to scrutinize just because they can for clicks and likes.
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Bron avg 30 in year 20 and no one talking about it 😂🐐 he’s makes shit looks normal
not without magnets helping his jumpshot 🧲🎯
the reality that most don’t know about
Don’t disrespect the goat.
Jordan at 38 would average 40 in today's NBA where defense is fucking soft. If you breathe on a player they call a flagrant.
@@LOTM-bh7zx only if Jordan retired 4 times in between.
Lebron is once of lifetime player, one incredible story, who ever is watching this man play or who has watched him play, it's a honor. This man has changed the game of basketball, inspired millions on and off the court, is great father figure to his kids, great role model, has surpassed to many expectations. LongLiveTheKing... Give people there flowers while there here!❤
Rip Kobe,Gigi. Legends never die
Love the videos man ❤️❤️❤️
Appreciate you 💜
Kobe gets disrespected so much! I can understand younger people doing it because they never saw him play.
But when adults don't put kobe up their makes me sick. Dude has 5 chips. 2 without shaq. Top like 5 on points list.
Closest to mj. And yet they put lebron up on the list. And kareeem who played in a era where it was all skinny weak guys.
Kobe def is 2
Like you said Kobe is the closest to Mike. LeBron is a 1 of 1
Because SAS and so many others possess what you don't have...basketball common sense.
He and most of those on ESPN move the goal posts on him everytime he does anything. No other players in NBA history were ever held to the standard that he has been held to.
Wild enough, people were doing the same thing to Kobe while he was alive and now everybody loves him coincidentally. Give him love now while he’s still here to enjoy it.
G.O.A.T. James - let's get the 2022-2023 NBA Title 💪🏻
Not the goat. Weak lebron chokes in the post season. Hahahahahahaha
I’ve got jordan higher but Bron is easily 2nd and still one of the best athletes ever. Ignore the guy who commented first he’s childish
@@hypent500 says some clown from his couch 😂
@@hypent500 u clearly never watched Jordan lmao and how ass he was in The Playoff Bron is literally the playoff king
@JBoiiBeatz 😂Bron your deluded just be quiet man
Lebron: its about damn time
Yes we will love you LeBron James ❤❤❤❤
So damn true. I treat it so casually. What is observed is pure greatness🔥
Ppl don’t realize greatness till it’s gone !
Complained about him now celebrates him. Only S.A. Smith can do this and make it sound like a celebration
FACTS…..The World been on his Azz since Day 1 & he been proving mfs Ever Since. It’s bout time to admit he’s HIM 🔥🔥🔥
Micheal jordan may be the greatest basketball player of all time, at least in my eyes, but even if he’s not the best there will be nothing ever like him. Hes made 10finals appearances, 19 all star games (i think), alltime leadint scorer and more, he’s the goat of our era, and i sure as hell wouldn’t blame you if you said all time
He’s the GOTE (Greatest of the Era) but not the GOAT
@@CuriusOdus11 he's not even the GOTE. Can't be the greatest of your era, when you've lost more than you won in your era, and those in your era won the same with a better win ratio.
@@remnant8898 I hear you, but you can attribute that to him playing good teams. It’s ironic though as Lebron fans who say he had tough opposition are then quick to dismiss Jordan going out twice early in his career to the best team of the 80s stacked with 5 HoFers while he had zero support, or losing to a Pistons team stacked with four All Stars while he had none playing with him. 😂
@@CuriusOdus11 I hear that, but no all time great has won chips without playing on good teams. Bron has had more help in the 2010s and still came up short more than he won.
What you said is true, and LeBron fans like to dismiss the first 7 years of his career losing to teams who weren't even as stacked and also in an inferior conference.
@@remnant8898neither of y’all add context to anything that’s in favor of bron
The greatest to ever do it
😂😂😂😂😂 that would be MJ
2nd greatest.
Lebron is great but Mt. Rushmore doesn't allow players with Losing Finals Records and No Dynasty .... 4-6=40%.
Get real. Jordan, Kobe, Magic, Kareem, Russell
@@jaydubb2005 thank you he would be the only great on the mt Rushmore with no dynasty and a losing record when those guys you named have nothing but greatness attached to there names team wise and individually
That would be the guy from Chicago, with a 6-0 record and 6 finals MVPs!!
Those fans back in the day elevated those players as well instead of comparing MJ to Wilt. We try to keep Lebron off mount Rushmore and dude keeps pushing and proving ppl wrong.
I always put LeBron at 2 now, that's credit enough.
"You will miss him when he's gone"!!!!!! Remember those words!
Mount Rushmore of Travelling...
Unparalleled.
And yet you come with a hating a** comment….WHY? Every body who handles the ball travels and Carrie’s in the NBA….it’s so common it’s not worth calling.
It’s not gonna kill you to acknowledge LeBron for the things he’s accomplished, stop being so miserable trying to point the negative
Gona miss him 😭😭
I been saying this, bro been In the league long as I’ve been alive, I’m about to be 22 this year…it’s definitely gone be weird seeing Him not play anymore
I think the whole should be behind him this playoff run
Give me Dirk, Duncan, Jordan, Kareem, Shaq, etc. over Lebron any day. Bro needed a superteam to win all of his rings. He's a regular season player, but when it comes to the post-season he needs help. A GOAT doesn't need help. A GOAT can carry. But lebron needed Wade, Kyrie, and prime AD to win anything. Steph, Giannis, and Jokic didn't need any superstars to help them.
And bro got swept I don't know how many times. Dude walks around every place he goes chanting that he's the GOAT. Dude is on The mount Rushmore though. the Mount Rushmore of cornballs, ill give him that.
Gonna be so weird not seeing bron in the league I’m abt to turn 18 years old I’ve literally never seen a league with no lebron 🥲
Damn I'm getting old. Lmfao 😭😭😭🤣🤣😂😂
I was born 3 months before he was drafted so legit his whole career is literally my whole life 😂😂😂 shits wild
The most discredit thing about LeBron is when he had the Balls & came back to the CAVS to make history. I feel like he get‘s more unappreciated when he leave the NBA bcs of his waiste of Finals.
The real Goat, love or hate him you will miss him when he retires
Speak for yaself
I can’t wait till he retires so my Laker team can build again.
Easy
@jayvega4702 🤣if u say so boss
@@ChadBasedRedpill they gone suck when he leaves
1. Mj 2. Lebron. 3 kareem. 4 kobe. 5. Magic
Listen at the end of the day Lebron surpassed what he was supposed to live up to, society expecting him to 3 peat once or twice like Jordan & the bulls is insane especially with the way the league has so many talented teams now
I’ll always say that about LeBron, he was in high school getting compared to the greatest players of all time. You look at any other player, and there’s no comparison to the pressure he had to be great. Take Luka, Steph, Giannis, Joker for example all these guys can fail in their career and no one bats an eye. LeBron is so talented that NOT winning in the finals hurt him. Even though he made it with guys like Dellavadova, JR Smith, and Iglauskas being his 2nd option… yet the expectation is to beat the toughest teams of all time. This is after he stayed in Cleveland for the first half of his career… he’s one of the greatest to ever do it. Imo, the best all things considered
I’m guilty of criticizing LeBron but Stephen A is right. As a CLE kid, I watched almost every game he played here. LeBron has been unfairly compared to Jordan since the beginning of his career. Never had a chance to surprise anyone because all his accomplishments were expected. LeBron says he’s the goat because that’s all anyone talks about, so I don’t blame him. Jordan is the goat though.
There will never be another lebron james
Even comparing the greatest, you’re being unfair giving him anything other than #1. What more does this man need to achieve!
Love you so Much KinG James 👑
Kareem MJ Bill & LeBron... everyone else is 2nd tier no matter your opinion or favorite. No one has done more than those 4. Kobe comes closest.
On a sidenote, I think that that is a great Mt Rushmore. Russell, Kareem, MJ, LeBron.
The only thing unfair to lebron James was comparing him to Jordan because i don’t think when he first started playing in the league his motivation was to be like MJ he wanted to be LBJ and the Cavs put that 23 on his back and the fans and media was smoking that gas bruh did him that’s what matters
I can think of 5 or 6 guys I'd put ahead of him . Mike is #1 Kobe #2 Kareem #3 Larry Bird #4 Bill Russell #5 Julius Erving #6 then LeBron just my opinion.
LMAO he want to switch up now that Lebron's retiring as the GOAT and he dont want to be on Bron's bad side 😂
Yea true, skip is somehow being loose to lebron too😂
You may love or hate him but we will miss him when he retires for sure.
We? Not I sir
The only reason I could think about why these people treat LeBron like that is that they never let him grow as a player. They put so much pressure on him ever since he was 18 that they never realized that they were hindering Lebron's growth. And when LeBron fails to meet their criteria they will criticize. On the other hand if LeBron surpassed their expectations they either brush it off or find a reason why player x is still much better since he accomplished it in a more respected way.
although i'm a warriors fan and lebron ruined what could've been a 4 peat for us, there's no denying he's one of the goats. lebron is so naturally smart not to mention his photographic memory. also 6'8 250lbs of pure muscle. there will never be another lebron and the league is gonna be so weird without him
Didn’t he blame the dunk contest being lame because of Lebron though?
Lbj and mj is like Messi and cr7 . Both goats ❤ I don’t wanna compare . I wanna enjoy both
He’s the goat by a mile
He took a dump on that mountain, when he proclaim himself the GOAT. That is not the way one can reach the top. That laugh behind Dirks back.... He is top 10, and that is huge. When he retire we will see where his rank is
But nobody told the media to compare this man to the real 23
Lol David Stern did, they knew exactly what they were doing after they found out what one star could do for the league financially.
@D J They said he could be next MJ, he has his shoot at miami and didnt deliver, lebron is not top 3, mj, bill karem are top 3 and after those you have magic, bird and lebron in any order, and people who believe basketball is offense and defense will have kobe and duncam over lebron, so top 3 is a hard stament, he is with not doubt top 10, and debatable top 5 and definitely not top 3. Lebron Ring and stats dont add up to be considered top 3.
“The real 23” bro what does that even mean💀 he liked Jordan growing up so what? He wore 23 so tf what, idk why y’all are comparing it like he tried to BE MJ when in reality he’s just a better player than him and y’all can’t get outta the 90s, like you do know Jordan was drafted in 1984 right? And didn’t win his first ring until his 7th year in the league the Cavs front office didn’t do their job in putting talent around LeBron to help him win earlier so he had to leave
@@jaidenroberts05 the real 23. In other words. The man who’s synonymous with the Jersey 23. Michael Jeffrey Jordan
I started realizing this about 2 seasons ago, he's playing at a high level 20 years in.
I had a similar realization about Brady
I notice that Steven A keeps Kobe Bryant's name out of his mouth. whenever he talk about top three players in the world . And he never puts Kobe Bryant in that top three . And I know for a fact Kobe Bryant is always going to be in that list. so I'm kind of thinking Kobe and this guy did not get along at all. And Steven has lost all credibility to me as a NBA analyst. Simply because he doesn't know how to identify legendary.
That might be because he doesnt rate Kobe that highly. Its not the first time he's said Lebron is #2 behind. He's been consistent with that stance for years.
And you cant say that SAS doesnt like Kobe, its well-known that they were friends.
Maybe its your "Kobe is my favorite player so he must be the best ever" mindset that is the real problem.
I never understood why he is so disproportionately hated compared to other greats, like yea criticize him, but so many people I see in UA-cam comments say he isn’t even top 5 and set the goalpost further for him then anyone else.
I just love how the media skips Kobe bean Bryant every chance they get
because comparing 1-time MVPs is disrespectful to 4-time MVPs...especially since Lebron is better than Kobe at Kobe's best attribute (scoring).
I’ve been watching basketball since 2006 I’ve Neva seen uh basketball player like LeBron James he will forever be my goat
You must never seen #23 because you would've changed your mind quickly
@@Madden-Frangrance-Champ I did see 23 he da goat Dunkman first player to win finals mvp fa 3 franchise
@@eddie1kay um no, 4-6 in the finals can't be the GOAT but give me Black Jesus and Black Mamba
@@Madden-Frangrance-Champ Jordan is 1-9 w/o pippen never beat Boston or won anything in the 80s please dnt say cud Boston was stacked n jordan was by him self cuz wen I say dat bout Bron y’all don’t be wanting to hear nan so let’s be consistent with your judgement n as great as kobe was he struggled early which goat Neva had n he wasn’t always da best player in his team which is why he only has 2 finals mvp to brons 4
Man I love youu Lebron 💯 #blessed to be alive and 😮witness his career
He’s right …..and I’m not a big leBron fan , what this man has done in this sport has in the amount of time is incredible. KINGJAMES🖤💯
Facts Stephen A
Bron gets respect
Curry literally changed how the entire league plays the game and still is the best shooter currently top 5 handles and still doesn’t make the top 10 cut while having equal championships to Lebron in Less seasons.
Kawhi is the Best Defensive player in the league. All they do is bash him for taking the time to keep his body in shape. He’s the guy Lebron hates to have guarding him because he’s good at it and still gets buckets.
He’s physically closest to MJ of any player and gets slandered.
Lebron gets credit by being in the discussion of the Mount Rushmore.
The other 2 don’t and that without the disrespect while KOBE was alive which I can never forget or forgive. He gets hate but others have received more disrespect
None of those guys have the same resume. The three guys you mentioned had one fewer combined regular-season MVP but one more combined finals MVP.
Like it or not. MVPs carry way more weight than all-defense selections or DPOY.
Along with the records, Lebron has the closest MVP cabinet Jordan and Kareem. That is why rated higher.
I agree...I am so MJ fan that I never gave Bron a chance!!
The most interesting thing is hes not even done yet. To be compared to the greats when you still have more left than the tank is the greatest respect you can ever earn!!
The reason he gets so much hate is cuz he talks to damn much and is his own biggest fan. He’s def amongst the greats but when you repeatedly say your the goat It takes away from the feeling
Haters will hate, and MJ/Kobe/Kareem fans will present arguments as to why their respective GOATs are the real NBA 🐐… but there isn’s a single basketball player IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA who has collectively done as much as lebron has for the game, current and ex-teammates, social justice, and player image. In his 20 year career, he has not only never had any personal controversy, but he has also demonstrated a near-perfect work-family-extracurricular balance. Imo, GOAT doesnt just mean “best” basketball player. GOAT means greatest of ALL time. It means that out of all the players who graced the NBA, this one individual is the greatest. Not just in terms of playing the game, but managing life in and outside basketball. To me,
While I agree he's on the Mt. Rushmore, the putting on of the invisible crown is lame.
It is pretty egotistical. I love confidence but its borderline arrogance.
We take greatness for granted
Lebron has been my favorite since day 1 vs Sacramento. I've been telling people hating on him they're gonna miss not paying attention, guys like him are once in a generation
4 chips
Passed Jordon
Passed Kobe (rip)
Passed Kareem
👑 it is done
HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE. BEEN SAYING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. Im done when hes done
Heavy layeth the crown
We be alright
I’ve been a LeBron fan since 7th grade, I’m 26 now
He's right, problem why a lot of people hate Lebron because of the comparison between him and the goats
A lot of people hate him because of his political stances. That is wild...and I think Lebron is kinda ignorant when it comes to politics.
the problem is they keep comparing him to MJ. MJ is great in his own way. there are many ways to measure greatness.
Amen glad he said that. Point blank period
Lebron = Chyna
Would have supported him more if he didn't call himself the GOAT
So because a man believes he's the best that's a problem for you? So of you have kids you not gonna feel like you the GOAT of dads? Because if not then your life sucks and so does everyone in your family tree
Never let someones confidence irritate your insecurities
LeBron is Hulk Hogan with a ball. He's not a basketball player, he's just a sports entertainer.
I won’t miss him while he gone I never took him for granted
1 MJ
2 Kobe
3 Bron
4 Wilt
🐐🐐🐐🐐 MJ Goat 1
🐐🐐🐐 LeBron Goat 1A
He's not that dude
Fun fact: They've been doing this since 2003. #Forever
It’s hard to really make an argument for anyone else at this point. This guy is head and shoulders above mike or Kareem as a basketball player. Can’t even deny it anymore
Not Jordan
I love reading the comments when there is a Lebron conversation. Mj fans will pop up. Lbj fans will also pop and talk. Its so much fun
I think no one has stated this take with quite the eloquence that Mr Smith did in this moment!
I will acknowledge that I have reached a tremendous level of respect for Lebron James. In my eyes he will never be better than Michael Jordan nor Kobe Bryant, but he does means as much to the game of basketball as they did when they were playing. He is one of the few athletes who has set an example of excellence for athletes both inside and outside their sport.
As Stephen A smith said, we as basketball fans will miss him when he is gone.
He makes the game so good he will be missed when he’s gone and your children will ask where were you when he was playing? And if you say you were hating… that will look foolish on you. I’m talking about when it’s all said and done
What other player on your top ten jumped teams and ran to play with other all stars when they couldnt get it done? Not a player that got traded by the team they played for.
I think he signs a 5 year cheap deal to play with Curry and they would win at least 3 out the 5 if he does THAT.....WHY NOT????
Top 3 impossible: He is top 10 for sure, top 5 debatable, betwen lebron, bird and magic i do not see a clear winner, comes down to preference and over those 3 we have MJ, bill and karem clear cut over the rest. You also can make arguments for kobe and tim duncam over lebron. Because as complete players, 2-way player, defense way higher than lebron and offense on par.
Lebron has done this to himself. If he'd given the other generations their credit and not declared himself better, we all would have let him be the goat of his generation and sung his praises instead of knocking him off the pedestal he made for himself.
He’s been the goat ever since the 2016 come back idc what old heads gotta say about MJ
The amount of MJ meat riders is WILD💀
I agree💯
I feel like people who watched mj in his prime say hes the goat and people who watched lebron in his prime say hes the goat
2011 Finals
@@zodspeed 80s choke by MJ.
@@zodspeed Better than a bunch of retirements
Lebum always craving. He couldn carry his team like the others did
Some people LL cry seeing the celebration of his retirement!!!!
They need to put more respect on kobe name...he in that goat conversation..that Mt Rushmore of bball..if he the closest to mj how can he not be???
Jordan is the goat for me but Bron is deffo in that convo. Him and Mike are far better than everyone else. 2 of the best athletes ever
Kobe
Kobe way better than this Le drama queen
@@adnanojd stop it. MJ and Bron are clear of Kobe
@@jasongordan he’s not on the level of those 2. MJ and Bron are on a different planet respectfully
@@hazz2620 stop smokin dust and riding that lemedia hype train
Bron 🐐
Lebron has more than lived up to the hype and expectations placed on him when he entered the league.