Great discussion! WRT the PoE, how would Josh's view handle a case of God permitting horrendous evil consequences of an immoral action as a means of making the person an exemplar even though the person would morally prefer that God had prevented the consequences on which that good depends? Further imagine the greatest good of union with God and good opportunities for soul-making would not depend on the person becoming an exemplar, as there are other morally unobjectionable means of God providing such goods.
Great video, as always. I really love what you do here on this channel. It really touches me. It means a lot. As soon as I clicked on the video, I felt just an extraordinary level of……… testosterone. Like I think I gained like 20lbs
So, did Sijuwade have like 3 interviews today? We got this video. Parker says he interviewed him right before this show, and Pat Flynn just released an interview with him as well. That’s pretty crazy
@@kal22222 , meaning, you want PHYSICAL data. In that case you have come to the wrong person. Joshua's expertise is in philosophy and metaphysics. Tell me, when you were in school did you go to your high school chemistry class and demand that the instructor teach you Chinese history?
So… where’s the evidence then? Imagine someone trying this to prove there’s a continent nobody’s been to. None of this would meet the bar 😂 Beyond that, even if I were to accept that there is a god - which one? Which of the tens of thousands of them is it? Aren’t we all a little too old for this fairytale?
@@giftedtheos , exactly. mattso came here expecting PHYSICAL data to support God's existence. Joshua's areas of expertise, however, are metaphysics and philosophy.
First I've heard of Joshua Sijuwade. Thanks for sharing.
Dr Sijuwade a.k.a the black Richard Swinburne. Glad to see him on the channel 💪💪
I have to say that Ryan Mullins is such ear candy… between him and Than, this stream was so sweet!
@@C0smicNINJA you’re too kind 😂
That was an interesting discussion
Great discussion! WRT the PoE, how would Josh's view handle a case of God permitting horrendous evil consequences of an immoral action as a means of making the person an exemplar even though the person would morally prefer that God had prevented the consequences on which that good depends? Further imagine the greatest good of union with God and good opportunities for soul-making would not depend on the person becoming an exemplar, as there are other morally unobjectionable means of God providing such goods.
This is the best objection to his theodicy imo. Its why any good theodicy I think must address horrific evils
Really enjoying his book so far, sijuwade is a beast.
Great video, as always. I really love what you do here on this channel. It really touches me. It means a lot. As soon as I clicked on the video, I felt just an extraordinary level of……… testosterone. Like I think I gained like 20lbs
So, did Sijuwade have like 3 interviews today? We got this video. Parker says he interviewed him right before this show, and Pat Flynn just released an interview with him as well. That’s pretty crazy
If you have data that proves God you should present the data.
Not just claims.
Which data would you accept?
@@mysotiras21 Probably data that proves the existence of a god, any god.
@@kal22222 , meaning, you want PHYSICAL data. In that case you have come to the wrong person. Joshua's expertise is in philosophy and metaphysics. Tell me, when you were in school did you go to your high school chemistry class and demand that the instructor teach you Chinese history?
So… where’s the evidence then?
Imagine someone trying this to prove there’s a continent nobody’s been to.
None of this would meet the bar 😂
Beyond that, even if I were to accept that there is a god - which one?
Which of the tens of thousands of them is it?
Aren’t we all a little too old for this fairytale?
SPOILER: Absolutely 0 new/any evidence for god in this video.
thanks
Which data would you accept?
Spoiler: Absolutely zero evidence that you understood anything that was said
@@giftedtheos , exactly. mattso came here expecting PHYSICAL data to support God's existence. Joshua's areas of expertise, however, are metaphysics and philosophy.
@mysotiras21 Which isn't evidence 🤣🤣