Jim Cornette on The Big Swole / Tony Khan Controversy
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- From Episode 225 of Jim Cornette's Drive Thru
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Tony wears his emotions on his sleeve and Swole thinks she's more than what she is. That's about it imo.
Nah.. Tony knows SJW's will come running if you are called a racist,so he cut that shit off at the knees.
@@andrewclayterman6230 this is a habit for Khan though. Any criticism of him causes him to jump to Twitter and make a fool of himself. He did this with a jaguars player too, and it made him look petty and dumb
Yeah he's an entitled rich boy like his daddy SHAD with the jaguars they got egoscbut no common sense
No matter what was said by who and who’s right or wrong …
Can we all agree “Big Swole” is one of the worst wrestling names of all time ..
I was pretty confused when I saw her for the first time, I was expecting an Awesome Kong looking chick. How are you 5’ 7” and 125lbs and calling yourself “Big Swole”?
I just realized her name refers to her large ego
Especially when she's got noodle arms.
There’s definitely worse
@@12ozmouse99 she's 5'5"
Even as a black guy, I gotta say: when did it come about filling the color quota instead of picking the best man and/or woman for the job?
True but ever since affirmative action came into popular use, color quotas will never not continue being in use. Whether they’re met or not, people can always bring them up. There’s not a diversity gap, there’s just a lack of talent across the board
Because the best person sometimes doesn't get the look that they deserve.
About 10-20 years ago
@@selfishstockton6123 It's ironic that the people who supposedly support equality, also introduce quotas which discriminate against people of gender and race, who may be the best people for the job, but because of these quotas, lose out on opportunity because of their gender or race.
When everyone needed a participation trophy
Lio Rush backpedalling with a corporate statement was my favorite part of this
I do not take Lio Rush seriously anyway.
Ridiculous.. Everyotime a black person gets fired were gonna have to go through this bs...
Because he would of been unemployed
Screw Lio Rush. We'll see how long he lasts. If I were TK I'd fire him 6 months from now after everything dies down.
Back pedal? I dont think you understood his initial stance.......
I'd cut Lio Rush in two months after jobbing him out on Dark. Guy can't keep out of his own way. He's not worth the trouble, and I'm actually a fan of his.
Anyone who plays the race card is scum - it’s THEM that wants to keep racism alive, so that they can virtue-signal
@ThebestLamer92 Rich Swann isn't a main eventer, even if he main events impact shows.. and Moose works for Impact... so he won't be winning the AEW title. So, you want some random black guy who would be a bad champion to have the belt? Or do you actually have a good suggestion of who should have been the black guy who DESERVED to be the champion in the first 2 years of AEW.
@ThebestLamer92 I'm disgusted by their lack of native Canadian talent. Inuits are a proud people even if they eat whales and sleep in snow.
@ThebestLamer92 so name one
@ThebestLamer92 I demand they hire a top first people talent for eleventy billion dollarydoos and put him over CM Bryan
Brandi named Chief Diversity officer! "We'll sort this out in a steel cage big swole!"
Must be open mic night
@@ren17x50 Well, Brandi did have the mic, so ...yeah open mic night seems about right :)
Isn't she already the Chief Brand Officer? Terribly non-diverse company with two Pakistanis at the top and black women as C-level corporate executives. Swole's totally not jealous or anything. Pay no attention to her hate on Jade for being a bigger, more swole black woman in the company and leaving "Big Swole" with no gimmick. Nope, nothing to do with that. Swole just totally "decided to leave" (definitely not let go) because AEW just doesn't respect African American women. /s
Brandi Dirt...this thing on??? mic check 1, 2?
Some call that a fake job
There are tons of.them
Swole did suck though. Based on her statement she wants someone to write for her and she doesnt wanna have to be creative at all. She wants a sports entertainment job not a wrestling job.
As if she will be used or even hired in WWE
She's a wrestler not a writer
@@joshdamage shes neither.
@@ThatGuyX2 Tony Khan paid her to wrestle 🤷🏾♂
@@joshdamage and she wasnt very good.
"Some people, in this modern era of wrestling, need to understand, that you aint going to change shit until you get into a spot where they can't do without you. And those are few and far between, especially these days" Cornette just preached a whole sermon on pro wrestlers in 2022! That's real and it's not said enough. Stra8 heat!
That's true in ANY area of life......🤔
I disagree. Your argument can have weight because of your status or because it is a valid argument. If Skye Blue tweeted that aew could be doing a better job of elevating women not named Britt baker, I don’t think anyone would care because she’s clearly right.
i didnt like him at all when he was in wrestling on tv and stuff. i like listening to this podcast...he knows his shit..
@@miked4309 you weren't supposed to like him buddy
@@breno7950 almost all the wrestlers i have ever liked have been the heels. but i get what you are saying. i didnt like jim's podcast at first but the more i listened the more i connected.
So sick of people blaming diversity or racism as the reason they suck! Those losers take away from the real problems in the world. Wouldn't doubt it if she popped up in WWE with her hubby.
Who is her hubby?
@@gothard5 Cedric Alexander
she was the idiot who wore blm armbands in her matches, she knows how to play her victim card well, she should have never been employed in the first place, good riddance
Bobby Lashley doesn’t suck the man has a amazing amateur wrestling background , MMA background, and WWE has never showcased Bobby the way they showcased their white stars.
She thinks she’s better that what she is because she’s with Cedric. She was also trained by George South, who has a history of creating wrestlers with bad attitudes. Tessa Blanchard is a prime example of a George South student with a big ego.
Ugh. It was such a big mistake to sign Lio. He's such a drama queen.
Hasn't he retired like 6 times?
@@adambrotherton9930 I think he's retired 4 times since joining AEW. 😏
Lio is fascinating to me. The dude has publicly talked bad of the company he currently works for multiple times now. It makes me wonder if he’s arrogant or something because it seems bold to believe that you’re at a level where you can get away with it.
Sure Stone Cold talked bad about WWE shortly before he walked out that first time but we all understand that’s Stone Cold. He can get away with it because he’s Stone Cold.
It would be amazing to me if Lio genuinely believes he’s at a level in wrestling where he can do this and get away with it. In a sense he kinda did in AEW since they didn’t fire him but in hindsight we now know he was on a six month deal and obviously they didn’t resign him. After what he did in WWE and AEW I wonder how much money he’s cost himself by feeling the need to talk poorly of the places he’s currently working at. I mean realistically he probably wouldn’t have survived through those Covid cuts even without the drama but you do wonder if that drama will prevent him from having another opportunity there. Then again the dude seems to retire a bunch so who even knows what he will be up to in a year.
Agreed 100%. I personally has never really been a fan of Lio
I told everyone months ago that Lio Rush would get into racism accusations. I guess Cody didn't end racism after all.
i think i did see a comment about that, so i guess it was yours, good call my friend.
@@DUFFYISBACK not being racist, but why do black folks like big swole have to cry so much???
@@ericstevens8660 its an execuse for their incompetence
🤦♂️ at the last couple of goofs.
@@ericstevens8660 it’s not a black folk thing, it’s a woman thing
Her gimmick is “big swole”
…how well does that gimmick work when an actual swole person like Jade Cargil is in your division. Hell even Leyla Hersch is more of a physical presence that Big Swole-in-the-head.
You’re bad. Just accept it.
Big shits
Swole colon
Heck jade cargill is heads and shoulders above BIG Swollen🤣🤣🤣
why do you think she is mad, the real reason is jade got all of her push that she thinks she should have had Jade is a newbie and is better than swole (not by much)
Swole mentality
Jane is big swole done right. Just a lil bit green for my taste but she is money.
Imagine if Vince went on Twitter and responded to every wrestler who said something about being released lol
Vince can't remember when his last shit was nevermind the ability to tweet.
They’d be utter outrage
It’s funny how tony loves and takes a vantage of people doing the “leaving wwe podcast” stuff yet can’t take it once it happens to him
Tony the Elon musk of wrestling.. A walking joke that thinks their social media game actually means shit.. the more they both post to social, the more insufferable they become
Imagine if you thought Hypotheticals were clever jokes
Vince isn't that stupid.
Tony wasn't saying, "look at all my black friends". He hit her with facts. The truth hurts. He is a person of color himself! For her to claim "lack of diversity" is the equivalent of claiming she isn't a woman of color.
Tony isn’t a person of color…the only people of color are considered black…not Mexican not Indian nothing else and that’s a fact look it up …so if tony isn’t black he isn’t of color
AEW is gonna regret hiring Lio. It'll be more negative return to the company than positive.
Yep already trying to throw his very lil weight around
Lio Rush is a ticking time bomb.
If he did what he did to me if I was his boss, he's be unemployed.
He’s tainted his own reputation with his constant retiring and coming out of retirement. He’s a great talent, but he acts like he’s The Rock in his prime.
That loud mouth hobbit thinks he's actual talent. Well, in AEW, even Joe Schmo can be a talented "wrestler"!
A lot of these wrestlers going to be really upset when Tony Kahn don't renew their contract. The man employs to many wrestlers. Instead of firing them like WWE does, he just let's their contract expire. If Swole wasn't pulling the ratings then she can't complain. He pushed her when she really didn't deserve one. So she should take it for what it was and improve her product. Tony should have never responded to Big Swole.
Well there's a big difference between what he does. Letting the contracts expire at least gives them the opportunity to go elsewhere soon and grow their name. Vince just altogether kills their career because he views them as his property. Tony is a hell of a lot more fair.
@@shindean But the wrestlers released from WWE can go to other places and grow their name too.
@Big Kevin She wasn't referring to herself. Tony just got butthurt.
No WWE give them 3 months to rest and find work payed. Ending your contract means your done, no money find a new job. Think about it.
@@nathanguffey4204 Wrong. You make it sound like a vacation, Vince takes away all their exposure. No television interviews, no replays of their matches, the merchandise gets limited so they don't have to pay royalties, no social media exposure, Vince dries them out. And what do they get in return after those 3 months having their name eliminated from the business? This is why Jericho and Moxley had to trick Vince, because 3 months is nearly a death sentence.
The only thing I can agree with, is that Omega shouldn't be running the women division
How dare you suggest a woman is unqualified to run the womens division. Shame on you sir 🥸
@@totallybored5526 you are correct sir. I need sensitivity training.
@@dlmoney11 congratulations on being an ally 🤣
Kenny omega is probably banging the whole womens roster🤣🤣🤣
@@ericstevens8660 isn’t that the plot for the sequel to Sissy Slap Fight?
Lio is talented but he thinks he’s worth his troubles. You would’ve thought his last lesson was enough but guess not.
@@user-qm8hk9zb1p all the heat and problems he had in the wwe.
@@user-qm8hk9zb1p He freaks out and quits every couple of months. He quit the Challenge last year. He retires from wrestling anytime he has issues, which is often. He brings said problem upon himself by not getting along with his coworkers.
Lio is the type of guy who would be much more relaxed without phones.
Shame Tony khan had him and Mark Henry talk it out I'd loved for Henry to beat his ass
That's a bit one sided. What happened to Lio in WWE has forever tainted him. He was an established indie wrestler and made a comment about a wtestler he liked and the rest of the locker room got butt hurt.
Is Lio beginning to burn his bridges in AEW, I wonder how long he will last.
3 months tops
Hopefully the next to let go.
I wish Lio Rush would retire for the 768th time.
He just wants to beat terry funk's record of retirements
It wouldn't surprise me if Swole's whole diversity argument was simply a scapegoat for her not wanting to come to terms with how shit she was as a wrestler.
Yes Swole's argument was dumb but Tony's response was even worse.....Just don't even acknowledge shit like that, don't lower yourself. For christ sake! have some dignity
Act like a proper CEO of a major promotion
Bingo
It's fairly obvious. In this day and age just scream racism if you don't have anything else valid to throw out.
Swole holes
It's crazy, because if you ever look at her twitter, ALL she ever does is bitch about her, or her friends, not getting 'wins' on TV because they are black. And her only reason for why she and her friends should get wins was because they were black. She went on about how she deserved a title because they needed more diversity amongst champions. But she was oblivious to the fact that she wasn't getting booked to win titles because she wasn't a good enough wrestler.
Loved how the smarks that called me every insult under the sun when I said she sucks, are now defending TK by saying, guess what, that she sucks... LOL
She does suck
But that's when she actually worked for AEW so it's different, somehow.
Trying to understand the mental gymnastics the far left goes through to justify their hypocrisy will break your brain.
but Tony khan only says she sucks now. before this all came out, money mark called her "talented"
Yup
I was waiting for this the SECOND Tony tweeted. Even before the backlash.
tony just proves what a mark he is for himself, with this incident
embarassing spoiled brat
@@el-youtub3r402 ??? Can you elaborate?
What did he tweet??? He blocked me.
@@TheDas9582 lol, he said big swole sucked and that's wishe wasn't renewed
@@TheDas9582 She said all she said about diversity yada, but he came back with she sucks as a wrestler so I didn't renew, but check out Dynamite!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Khan goes hard every once in a while lol
I thought that Big Swole would grow into a good wrestler that didn't have the "talent" but was a "presence" type wrestler on AEW. Then after she was release, I thought that the women they were bringing in was just becoming more talented or had more to work with. So for her to make this type of statement is like saying Death Valley is not hot. Tony Khan, however, should have kept his mouth shut. Lio Rush just need to wrestle or quit as he is the true example of letting his mouth overrun his tail.
That's what I tought. She sucked in the ring but had presence. With good creative, specially with all the TV time she got, she could have at least become a "gimmick" like Hacksaw,R-Truth.
So I tought she had the right to complain.
Well said
Must admit, I didn't. I think she is not talented. And, wasn't going to get it.
Tony still looks dumb because he gave her airtime and a push and a chance at the belt. He is basically admitting he allows sub par quality on his show.
200% agree Tony shouldnt have fed the troll.
My first memory of Swole on AEW programming, was when she came out saying that she represented the fans with Irritable bowl syndrome, kudos
Hey, listen, I have IBS and that shit's no laughing matter. Pun intended.
Wait.. did she actually say this?
@@arceface For your honesty you get a sub :)
my first memories of her was no selling Lance Archer when she was in the crowd, the awful dentist match or whatever it was..thats it
@@colelatshaw2317 Crohns disease maybe?
I liked how Tony dissed Swole and promoted an AEW show in the same tweet.
Yeah, it's funny as shit. This woke bullshit is killing every single thing it touches.
It was kinda funny but he honestly shouldnt be the one to tweet that tbh. But thats just my opinion
@@angelalvarez2915 why not? She's trying to start racially-based rumors, and that is fucking DAMAGING. Swole just wasn't good enough to be in the spotlight like she was. She's a less talented Bianca Belair
@Z Fouleur cool story lady.
she DOES suck, too
I disagree with Swole. This isn’t a race thing, she clearly sucked. On the other hand when you’re in the corporate world, especially as the CEO, you don’t go about things they way Tony did. He has a lot of little kid ways about him.
And this is what everybody defending him fails to realize. No matter how true his comments are, he’s not supposed to be making them as the CEO of the company
@@emperorjoker9240 he can make those comments all he wants he is the owner and answers to nobody. If swole is going to make such accusations which fall on Tony she should answer on them. Almost a defamation of character to accuse someone of a lack of diversity especially in 2020 when everyone loves to race bait
@@nriab23 you’re missing the point entirely. As the owner of that company he is expected to be professional and how he handles things. Imagine if when AJ Lee called out Stephanie a couple of years ago she responded this way or the millions of time Vince has been called out and he responded like a child. You expect comments like the ones TK made from Marks and trolls, not the owner of $1 million company.
@@emperorjoker9240 then behind the scenes (minus the tweets) if those allegations were legally wrong accusations. he should send his lawyers after her.
@@nriab23 which he would be well within his right to do(could be looked at as defamation). There’s levels to this and at no point in time should an owner(of any kind not just wrestling), respond in search in unprofessional manner. There’s a difference between you and I going after her like that versus someone in his position.
Coming from a black man with my own opinion. Lio rush shut the fuck up seriously. I got into wrestling in 05. I saw Orton, cena, Benjamin, batista, guerreros, mysterio, taijiri, regal etc. Later on tna Ron killings, monty brown, the Japanese crossover work with njpw.
Point being I didn't get into wrestling for diversity. I got into wrestling for wrestling. Even if my favorite was opening the show at least I saw them. While yes diversity is awesome do not late it take power over talent. Do not let it dictate story. Etc. I wanna get in the biz and guess what if I'm the opening guy so what I'm getting paid and having the time of my life.
Another black man here, AEW been super fair and welcoming to all wrestlers. It almost like AEW been checking off the diversity book and have done a great job. Hate seeing Sunny Kiss on t.v. in some booty shorts, but hey diversity check. First time I read her statement, automatically thought complete b.s. Then Lio Rush commented like he some big star telling TK to apologize lol please release his ass. AEW backstage atmosphere been one of their major plus, Lio will fuck it up.
I am a Black man who is a lifelong wrestling fan. Racism is blown out of control. People cry racism when it is not racism and people are called racist when they are not.
Tony should have tweeted back to Leo, "Sorry you feel that way, you can pick up your check from H.R., thanks."
BINGO!
Lio has an open contract he probably makes more in the Indys and New Japan and MLW than he does wrestling matches in AEW
Jim taking a verbal dump on Lio Rush is absolutely hilarious.
"Big Hole?! Didn't she work here?"
Laughed to loud. Now my coworkers are giving me funny looks.
Thanks for the moment Brian
Great work ethic 💪🏻
😂😂
In a few weeks your coworkers will say "Dick T?! Didn't he work here?"
That Corny laugh when he's caught off guard always makes me chuckle
His confused “WHAT?” Always gets me haha
Big Swole botches her matches almost 70% of the time, but AEW and Tony Khan are still not the innocent ones here, they don't have a proper PR team when it comes to these situations big or small... The PR Team is just Tony Khan
90% of the time.....She sucked
If she wanted to make such big accusations Tony should have said. Get your hard evidence and a lawyer or shut the f up. He had every right to defend himself and isnt Brandi the head of the PR team? Black and a women.... no diversity there either -_-
If you're not a bullshitter, there's no need for a PR team. PR teams only exist to deceive.
That's exactly what it is. Say what you want about her skills in the ring and promos but TK messed up royally but talking down to her while before he praised her for being such a talent.
Wwe and many non wrretling business corps have bullshit Ted you into thinking "everyone needs a pr team". No they don't, pr teams want people to need pr teams, because that's their living.
Savage when Tony tells you that your talent level is low haha. That is like Scrappy Doo telling you to calm down.
That's not being savage, that's being an ass when he praised her talent publicly before.
@@redwolfe7049 He didn't praise anything, he said she was improving.
@@redwolfe7049 wait, the wrestling promoter promoted his wrestler?? That’s just crazy talk! I went to a Mazda dealership last week and the manager there told me that Mazdas are actually closer to luxury car producers like Lexus and Mercedes than they are to Japanese economy cars like Honda and Toyota. Personally I likened them to Japanese produced Fords but the Mazda dealership manager wouldn’t have said that unless he truly believed it in his heart of hearts. Or do you think he might have been trying to make Mazdas sound more appealing to me just for the sake of making a sale? What a cynical way to view the world!
@@12ozmouse99 actually Mazda's are built in American Ford assembly factories.
Best thing Tony Khan has Done. I smell a Two Time Booker of the Year coming along.
The first women's champion was Riho, who doesn't even speak English. The second women's champion was Nyla Rose, who has no talent and is totally a diversity hire. Swole just has sour grapes about getting let go.
I agree aew actually gave a guy a woman’s title
You forgot to mention Nyla is actually a guy.
@@wateo1782 isn't it understood?
@@DabsDad People these days keep saying opposite stuff from what they see with their own eyes.
Diversity doesn't count unless it favors blacks. Funny how that works.
"This probably isnt a conversation that two white guys should be having." Actually this is America. Two white men can talk about whatever the fuck they want.
Amen
What do you expect from hardcore dem cucks?
the root of this situation is that AEW signed wrestlers with actual talent and pushed her to the C and D show and after their "amicable" Swole thought she'd have her pick of companies to sign with and nobody called, and she got bitter. she sucked
You need absolute help
She is talking about diversity and respect and opportunities for black ,Asian and Indian people ad that is problematic to you ?
You need help
Imagine being so utterly narrow mixed that you can't understand a basic thing like people of color not seeing people like them being represented in all sectors .
How would u feel ?
Have u tried putting yourself in the shows of a of color ?
@@wheeloftime2908 Just black, asian, or indian need representation? The problem with "needing diversity" is you either showcase all, or showcase none. The current tag champs are Mexican, with the inaugural having a black member, there's been two Japanese and a transgender Native American women's champion, and the TNT champion has been held by a Bulgarian and a man with a black mother (Cody). How much diversity do you really want?
@@wheeloftime2908 are you burning the spoon as we speak??? Aew had black first time tag champion, had a black trans, womens champion, an Asian womans champion (the first ever) had a Bulgarian tnt champ a Spanish tnt champ and currently 2 Mexican tag champs 🤣 not to mention the multiple black, Latino and Asian people currently in storylines on the show... swole was just a shit wrestler and used the race card end of.
@@wheeloftime2908 so because their black, they should get a push?
You say that but they signed Jake altas yesterday... Waste of a signing like half of these people who work there
Forced diversity IS a problem. Giving someone status or money based on the color of their skin and not their achievements is racist.
It could also put us behind the ball.. Hiring black scientist just cause they are black I stead of hiring the best person!? In Cali they want to lower requirements for blacks, and that's insulting and ridiculous. That helps no one. People who make this garbage up have no clue about the real world, they are in gated communities and limos
But giving to others based on their "white" color is ok ?
You mean what they do for white people?
@@schnarfschnarf5886 you may need to educate yourself on the subject. Lol get off the ignorant train.
@@kadiinhooopereira1177 according to these people yes
Just saying, in a company that gives opportunities and championships to:
-Native-American transwoman
-2 Japanese women
-A Black woman who's been the most protected act in the company
-Hispanic TNT & Tag team champions
-Bulgarian TNT champion
-Featured Dante Martin more prominently than the AEW Champ for months
While simultaneously trying to balance the most stacked roster with only 3 hours per week of TV time, saying they don't care about diversity is a pretty tone deaf and only makes sense is you're *only* talking about Black world champions.
And if you think Shawn Dean, Sonny Kiss, Hobbs, Dante, Lee Johnson/Moriarty, Jay Lethal are AEW Main Event acts or ready for that spot right now... You're delusional.
Jay is obviously the most ready, but he's been finishing up bookings outside of AEW and hasn't been featured much as a result.
Well said 👏
If jade wrested as good as she looked, then maybe I could try to sorta half way understand big swole but she needs to shut her big hole.
@@caligulalauren9071 Jade can work better than most who have only been at it for a year, and what she's good at, most never get. She has presence, charisma, plays to the camera well and is a freak athlete.
Yes, she needs to polish it up a bit, but that could be said about almost everyone on the women's roster.
But that’s the thing, you can book anyone to be as strong as you want. AEW has made the choice to present Dean as a jobber to Punk, made the choice for Hobbs to lost most of his matches, for Lethal’s first match to be a loss, etc. You can elevate whoever you want to the main title scene in wrestling, and have yet to *choose* a person of color
@@benjaminp2776 100 percent correct. Aew has a black champion and I don’t think jade loses the tbs title anytime soon.
No one under contract is going to be critical of AEW....just like no one under contract with the WWE is really critical of it.
As more people leave aew ( and it will happen because that is just reality) then I think that you will hear more things that are similar and the appearance of it being some Shangri-La for performers will get more cracks in it.
I absolutely agree because of the way the roster stood by TK. Lio Rush folded right after that.
Exactly, of course Hobbs (and Lio) ended up defending the guy paying them. They could of kept quiet, which makes me wonder if they were asked or "encouraged" to defend Khan.
They aren't going to bite the hands that feed them...and nor should they.
When they are free then that will probably be a different story.
Articles from wrestlers who where signed early on who look out of place now they have signed more polished performers.
@@VictorNewman201 how can they be "encouraged" when aew is the most diverse roster out there.... black tag champ inaugural.. east Asian women's champ inaugural.. black trans womens champ.. 2 Mexican current tag champs... Spanish tnt champ... Bulgarian tnt champ.. Asian CEO.. black CBO.. black woman in the tbs final... multiple black, Latino and Asian wrestlers in current storylines.. you're all on smack intravenously if you think otherwise.
She's the worst wrestler I've seen, Tony let her keep her dignity saying they both decided it's best for her to leave when in fact she got sacked because she sucks. She leaves, finds out no one wants her so decided to slag off the company then got burned
BIG swole is a BIG CRYBABY
Gotta say, Nayr, your comment is spot about the ''diginity'' part.
spot on*
The worst? Come on now. There’s plenty of wrestlers way worse than her lol. I don’t agree with her on AEW but don’t be a stooge.
worst wrestler you've seen? Jackie Gayda?
I hate that I have to mention that I’m black before posting controversial posts just so that it’s socially acceptable to say things like this, but, why the heck do black people like to pull the racism card when it comes to such things? “Is it because I’m black?” Goodness gracious, get the heck outta here?
Pretty sure your profile pic covers the intro. Personally I am sick of the professional victim mentality in this world. You aren't living in Georgia in the 1700's. You aren't in Rwanda. You are in American living in a time that has more opportunities than ever before in the history of the world. You can be an influencer for fruit baskets for God sake. Find your niche, put in the work, and make yourself a nice life. Or sit around and whine and collect money from the government while you are in misery.
Big swole sucks and that's a terrible name. Get entrance music even sucks. This is what happens when people aren't good enough to do what they want. They blame racism and everything else besides themselves.
Big Swole is a name you give a dude, not a woman.
but she never did! that was 1 sentence in a long conversation, this is just the 1 thing everyone wants to talk about
@@mastermoose8390 oh were so sorry king black people you are gods and can never ever have any thing bad happen to you because thats so racist you should get free hand outs because your black
@@wake6937 literally no one said that. Keep exposing your real agenda.
@@wake6937 the racism is in the way you came up with that response out of nowhere!
After Lio posted that statement the anti AEW trolls went after him too, They want to watch the world burn no place for rational discussion.
Wouldnt be surprised if Lio Rush's tweet was written by Megha Parikh or someone related to her and TK. It definitely sounds like a lawyer wrote the statement
A black man can’t write his own statement?🤨✊🏾 #BLM
@@notsteven4809 stop making this about race, that wasnt implied. The wording sounds like a press statement a lawyer would make. Doesnt matter what race the person is.
@@notsteven4809 nobody cares about that crap here. Stop making it about race. Stop playing victim
@@notsteven4809 correct
@@musicjnky1982 You’re going to make me a victim? I don’t fear you white man.
Big Swole was garbage, good riddance!
So is Lio Rush
@@KuttroatKelz bullshit
So people want to say white people are racist, we need more diversity, etc, but at the same time, white people aren’t allowed to talk about diversity….because they’re white?
What is the obsession with race? And isn’t Bryan Jewish? I know Jewish people don’t consider themselves white, so……
There are times when I wish AEW has a dedicated PR team, one that has full access to top management Social Media
What?? Most PR Teams are horrible and phony.
Why? Then they stop bring a real breathing company and a real breathing company hiding behind a bunch of fugazi companies.
@@DannieRay23 That's true but it would stop TK from putting his foot in his bratty mouth.
Only those who intend to deceive need a PR team
No dude. PR doesn't fix problems. They just minimize their impact. Spend money fixing the problem, not making yourself look better.
Been waiting patiently for Jim's take on this over the weekend
I don't see AEW making it much longer with Tony Khan running things he micro manages everything and cant take any criticism blows up on people defending himself that was the issue with this more then anything I think.
@@matthewroller5412 what lol
You guys have been saying for 3 years now they're going to fail and all they keep doing is raising their attendance and getting new deals.
@@happytomakeyousick4172 So you think they are making money overall and not in the hole?
@@matthewroller5412 he gets rattled easily, can’t handle constructive criticism..and Remember when bully ray took him to task on busted open radio about the refs doing a better job he got all pissy
@@brianfinn6800 Yep he has lost it at least a handful of times in Public already where it blew up in his face. I think it is only a matter of time before the whole company goes under he is clearly overspending and some AEW marks think he makes Cm Punks Salary back in merch and ticket sales lol. The way they do feuds is maddening too they pretty much ruined the Daniel Bryan and Page feud already all on free Tv just weeks apart from eachother when their dream matches run out what are they gonna do then to pop a rating?
Big Swole, more like BS
Big Swole was upset she wasn't getting pushed that's why she did the diversity angle
Ironic that she wanted a push for her skin colour... isn't that the thing she's supposed to be fighting against? The melanin privilege?
@@jamst123 she also has to know what she said also hurts Jade because people are going to say AEW had Jade win the belt cause of Swole if she wins which isn't right
No, she didn’t. Stop lying.
@@HoodedAlchemy She tweeted Jade claiming that she was in her spot in the TBS title tournament this is all sour grapes.
@@jamst123 It's like BLM being allowed to have mass riots during a pandemic, never being charged, in some cases being openly funded/aided by the government...and still claiming that everybody's racist.
Tony Khan said like 4 sentences on the issue and was right to be offended as an even lesser represented ethnic minority than Swole, not featured on his own programs. Hardly a diatribe. But that said, horrible judgment by Khan on all fronts; bad tweet, bad professionalism, bad decision to ever pay Swole a dime (bar none the worst AEW performer) and it made Khan look like a goddamn fool.
AEW doesn't have a training program. The Nightmare Factory is its own thing and trains talent that has been featured on AEW, but they are not the training program for AEW. Omega is not "in charge" of the Women's Division- he helps produce the Japanese-speaking female talent. Khan has said as recently as last month, HE is the sole booker and writer of AEW and is in charge of all divisions.
Yep, does AEW even have any Pakistani wrestlers on it's roster?
@@DarkArterialGore or trans Eskimos?
You just proved swole right
@@DarkArterialGore WWE does in Mustafa Ali
As a CEO Tony should not have said that on Twitter. However, not only was it funny. He wasn’t wrong.
Nope, he was wrong
Def not wrong ... she did have some charisma with the crowd....but she was a bad wrestler.... Her husband would have a lot better case if those words came from his mouth Because he is actually talented and not used properly
Alot of people are saying we got Fullum Tony with this response and its in character. I can only hope it continues for more lols.
why can't tony kahn be honest because it's unprofessional or how that's right and important

why can't tony kahn be honest because it's unprofessional or how that's right and important
@@Jefso1404 Idk how you think Swole was a good wrestler.
Swole has been sour ever since being let go. If you read Tony's tweet out of context, you'd think he was taking a random dig at her, but it was just him standing up for himself. I love how Swole tried to play the race card and just have it totally backfire on her.
100% …. Seems she trying to stay relevant be being a marauder for BLM …. Meanwhile we all know she doesn’t have ‘it’ and she really brings nothing to the table .. Loved how Tony Khan basically said she sucked as a wrestler , He handled himself well here…. Maybe it’s all a work anyway for promotion on both sides!
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OMG… you people are either racists, fools or both.
Big Swole didn't said a negative thing about aew
But because Tony Khan got baited by a thumbnail he reacted like a little kid 🤣
@@gustavoschiller6852 Bigs Hole said AEW is too white , well perhaps she is correct .. but who xactly are they holding down ??? Hobbs?..... she just comes off as being sour bc she couldnt cut it ... that tooth and nail match was one of the worst opening matches in recent memory
The genius of Travis is looking at the thumbnail and wondering how did he come up with that. Then u listen and go ohhhh lol i love it
So you can accuse a guy of effectively being racist, but when TK gives reasons showing he actually has diverse talent, it’s just him talking about his “black friends?”
It his tweet did come across like that though
@@peterlee6374 he shouldn't acknowledge woke bs anyway.
@@mysonandme8424 Problem is, woke bs hound advertisers and harass people to the point of suicide.
It sounded that way bro , stop being a snowflake
Black man here, hate that I have to say that but you know how the internet is. Big Swole, simply put, you're not that good and it appears as though when she meant "dversity" she truly meant black people. She didn't strike me as someone who took into account the Asian and Latino folks AEW have had as champions. Funny how the company who were touting about being "diverse" is now being critiqued more than WWE. Merit is supposed to win all the time, can we do better of showcasing talent from different backgrounds and ethncities? Sure, but the key in all of this is being talented. Some black wrestlers are world championship material, others are not and I wonder how much truth is in Swole's comment about her child looking up to her saying she doesnt see herself on TV.
She was hiding behind the colour of her skin to hide her flaws because in 2020 its very easy to falsely blame things on racism and a lack of diversity. rather than doing the harder thing and criticise yourself and look towards self improvement.
She wasn't that good yet she was signed to AEW while TK said she was good. He's disrespecting her now because he didn't like what she said so TK is full of it.
@@redwolfe7049 Yeah, TK had some faults in what he said too, I'm more so arguing another principle of "diversity" in wrestling
@nriab23 you realize that it’s 2022 right?
@@wilcee675 2020s I meant to say
The diversity part is real stupid, “lets push people for their race”
What's stupid about it is that even if people do what the far left orders them to, they STILL wind up getting attacked down the road anyway for not being committed enough to The Cult.
“You ain’t gonna change s*** until you can get into a spot where they can’t do without you” Jim is correct here but here’s the problem when it comes to minorities in wrestling: with the exception of The Rock, look how long it takes for a black wrestler to become a world champion in WWE and then once they win the title it’s a one-and-done. So if black and brown stars go back to the midcard once they win a top title, how can they make change at the top when they can’t even STAY at the top?
This guy gets it
Well AEW only had one black champ and he was a tag champ with 2 white guys?? And is jobbing to Brandi in the mid card now. How long till they get one?
Race has f-all to do with it - that’s a cop-out - just as many white wrestlers have found themselves in the same situation - in WWE, it comes down to who is VKM’s flavour of the month, in AEW, it’s about who is most over
@@nathanguffey4204 I feel like every black “star” in aew is heavily associated with a white person in some type of way on the show
@@MiniLemmy vkm flavor of the month is mostly muscle bound yt guys & skinny blonde women
Tony was wrong ..but let me say this . Im black, ive been a wrestling fan for 30 years. I get where she was coming from especially growing up in the 90s when ron Simmons, the rock and booker t were all we had. And ron Simmons should have been the first black wwf champion when he was leading the nation of domination. I get where shes coming from but i cant Really agree with her. And let's be real... big swoll wasn't that good. She had plenty of chances she just didn't get over. Shes better than jade cargill ...but thats not saying much because shes not good at all and Swoll on top of being below average at in ring and shes not great at promos either.
But People wanted to like her . She didn't give them a reason. Thats on her. Not Khan.
Then she had the nerve to complain about no writers?? If she went to wwe she'd be complaining about crappy gimmicks and how the wrestlers need imput.
And im sorry again but none of the black aew wrestlers are ready or over enough to put a world championship or tnt championship on except Jay Lethal. Maybe Scorpio Sky and Anthony Bowens down the line or Dante Martin and hobbs way way way down the line .
Thought experiment.....take a Look at all the world champions in pro wrestling rn
Impact
Moose
WWE
Roman Reigns
Brock Lesnar
NJPW
Okada
MLW
Hammerstone
ROH
Gresham
Bandido
And take a look at all the black wrestlers outside Lethal , Bowens and Sky.....and sorry not sorry but You're not gonna put sonny kiss, Moriarty, or lio Rush up against those current world champions from other promotions and think they look good with them.
Now look at the female world champions
WWE
Charlotte flair
Becky Lynch
Impact
Deonna Purazzo
ROH
Rok-C
NWA
Camille
Stardom
Shyuri
Im sorry but im not putting swoll up against them either ..... she was dead wrong
Not getting over doesn't mean the crowd is racist or your boss is racist. Maybe she'll thrive somewhere else. What Khan said was uncalled for but was just as much out of pocket
Thank You 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
"We've never seen a wrestler leave a company with a nicer statement than that."
Last doesn't remember the various times AJ Styles left ROH I heard.
Two white guys aren't allowed to discuss diversity....
Interesting.
As a black person....not every black person should be a spokesperson for our race.
Here we go playing the black card. I can't say I'm surprised that she used it. Brown, black, white, male or female. As long as you can wrestle and talk you're most likely going to go far. There are even plenty of wrestlers who can only do one of the two and still get tremendous results. Take Thunder Rosa for example. Not the greatest talker but great look and good wrestling. Plenty of room to grow and of Hispanic/brown heritage. All swole ever did was botch and dance like a moron out into the ring. She even got a push and Britt Baker was nice enough to put this nobody over. Props to TK for calling out her trash wrestling all while plugging his show. Swole should thank him for the free money she got out of him.
It sounds like Lio and Swole are saying you're not a minority unless you're black.
Big Swole kept Tessa from signing with AEW. Now she's pulling this....
Lol if she had any sort of pull to say no to tessa thats more on that company than her.
Big Swole didn't have a Goddamn thing to do with Tessa's not getting hired.
@@juniorlee9341 she did. She claimed Tessa said racists remarks towards her.
@@flyinglow7218 she didn't have pull. She pulled the race card.
@@rjskum688 stop this Tessa kept Tessa from signing from anywhere her actions caused all the issues she's having
There was absolutely nothing racially insensitive about saying Swole is a horrible wrestler. She sucked. If she were white, red, blue, yellow, orange, or green.... she'd suck.
I feel bad for Cedric Alexander..his wife basically ruined any chance he has to be cared about again
Yea....dude stuck in wwe now even if he wants to leave.
@@demoth Doubtful....Remember Cedric started out in ROH and was a standout when the Young Bucks, and Christopher Daniels were there, he's not going to have problem getting a job there!
The rebuttals on twitter to the "diversity" was basically, "but I have a color TV"
To be fair, what the hell is the answer to that? AEW doesn't actively hold minority wrestlers back. The people who go out of their way to talk about diversity 24/7 seem to only want whites to be excluded.
Honestly, I don't know why people like Tony feel the need to talk to the media at all.
@@jesuszamora6949 More diversity doesn't mean seeing whites excluded or that she is calling AEW a racist company. Where did she say that? That's what YOU equate more diversity to mean. Nothing wrong with wanting more representation and a all levels.
@@ijeoma1992 More diversity does mean less or no white people at all to some of these people though because they are woke cult lunatics. This representation bullshit is just a weird neo racism why does it have to be about color and not the quality of the persons work? Also there is plenty of diversity in the company but you will never satisfy these lunatics so of course they will still say some bullshit.
@@ijeoma1992 Oh I agree. I just wish that we'd hear more about the guys we'd wanna see in there. I imagine those recommendations would help to. I only say that because AEW has made an effort to present a diverse roster and there's still complaints being hurled. AEW has LOTS of problems, but that doesn't seem to be one of them.
Jim nails it again! This was great!
That was an AWFUL take. Completely misread the room
@@1stKindChris His comment has 40 likes as I type this. Yours has none. Looks like you're the one who misread the room.
@@DolFan316 he'll just beat Rihanna again
How about all of the UK channels constantly referring to "Tony Khan's big mistake on Twitter"? As if simply arguing with a black woman is forbidden because she's black.
i think every single worker should get a title run so everyone can see their favorite underrated workhorses shit the bed more times than not🤑
She started off as a very green wrestler, like most of the women in AEW. The difference is, everyone else has shown substantial growth, while Swole stagnated.
She was given the opportunity of a life time when she was in that feud with Britt right before Baker took off. Swole could have been pushed based off that feud but she absolutely failed to rise to the occasion.
Bullsh*t. There’s plenty of women on the roster who still have botches. Big Swole couldn’t keep up her training to due to crohn’s disease.
Bullshit.....the aew roster is a botch highlight reel
She beat Deeb. Never should have happened and she didn't improve enough to warrant any of her big wins.
So? Her critic is still valid and Tony for just to dismiss is like that, shows what a idiot he is and mark he is for himself. It's embarrasing to watch from the outside....why does he lower himself to that sort of stuff? And to do that in New Year's Eve as well! does he just sit around and watch his twitter for tweets that mention him?!
I saw her at an Indy show in 2017. She put in a lot of work to improve her conditioning and appearance, but she hasn't improved at all in the ring since then.
It shouldn't matter if it's "2 white giys" talking about diversity, you are human beings and have a right to voice your opinion based on what you see and what you know. Stop virtue signaling
Last is Jewish. He isn't white. All "white" is is anymore is newspeak for Kulak.
I don't feel bad for Tony at all bc he always let them use race as a reason no one likes them he always brings up race like when randy Orton and hulk Hogan wife was involved he always has something to say Brandi and Jade Cargill they always say race is why people don't like them they said in the beginning diversity is what wanted Cody also brings up race remember his promo a black man is equal as a white men or something like that anyway they love bringing up race so Tony should expect this
If he actually released her because her wrestling wasn't good enough and hadn't improved then he would have to release a minimum of half the bloated roster.
Winner winner chicken dinner
He didn't release her, her contract was not renewed.
He probably will when their contracts are up. At least he didn't fire her wwe style.
This is why I think it's bs
Swole wasn't great, but she was leagues ahead of fucking Luther and Joey Janela
Exactly! I saw a trainwreck of a womens match a couple days ago and thought WTF?! But those two were on television but yet Big Swole who was actually getting pretty good pops wrestling wasnt up to par to renew a contract?!
Brian is so woke. Very stunning and brave!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did you notice how badly he wanted to cave to wokeism, but the tiny part of his mind that's still rational wouldn't quite let him? 🤣
His timid tone while implying white people shouldn't contribute to discussions of race was very telling
Tony used to tweet how Swole was one of their bigger people and would improve over time but then when he is criticized (in a professional manner) he says that she sucked. TK has paper thin skin and should not be allowed to do ANY pr related work.
Facts.
he gave her more chances than she deserved and she burned everybody so he admitted she sucked. nothing crazy here
Like when he went berserk on Fox News a couple of weeks ago when they mentioned AEW ratings.
Everything Tony said was the truth. Everything Swole said was butt hurt bullshit to reconcile her ego with her lack of success. Swole wasn't talented enough to justify the chances Tony gave her. And he doesn't deserve her trying to imply he's some kind of bigot. If anything, it's the people with actual talent that deserved the TV time she got that should be pissed off.
@@nsanelycrazy She wasn't saying she should have been pushed though.
This is gonna be good lol
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She is amazing .
I like how Swole said she thought things were getting better even though she was gone, she didn’t mean herself, and Tony was the best boss…And all this happened anyway.
Diversity isn’t the issue. Structure, maybe. TK does need to have a character development system in place. He relies on the wrestlers to provide a gimmick that’s over. It’s obvious all Indy gimmicks won’t work or get over on tv.
It's a neat trick, to blame everything that doesn't go your way on your skin color.
Kentucky Hill folk?
I always knew Tony Khan was full of shit. They don’t have any quality black talent on their roster. They think Brandy playing a stereotypical black person is representation. AEW clearly has diversity issues, that’s why black people don’t watch it.
10 years ago I was like Swole. Not finding the success in life I thought I deserved, I blamed my bosses and just about everyone except myself. The day I was able to look into a mirror objectively was the most important step in life I ever took.
Well said
This had nothing to do with her own personal success though. She never once mentioned it.
id make a 50 dollar bet you arent a black woman.
Did you tell the truth like swole?
@@christiancsq or play the victim like swole?
"Oh, we're white, we can't possibly talk about a spat between people with darker skin!" Intersectional nonsense...
ive no idea why swole was signed to begin with. she was never good in the ring or on the mic. her look was terrible and she was wracked with personal health issues. thats an easy pass for most employers
Ask Tony since he said before she's a good wrestler. Now he's saying Jade is the most dominant wrestler since Goldberg despite that Jade still needs a lot of work in the ring and she hasn't even had that many matches yet.
"A conversation two white guys shouldn't be having." This show is getting pathetic.
Everyone hooting like monkeys over Tony's "totally epic roast of his employee" meanwhile if Vince McMahon said something like this...
EDIT: People really using McMahon acting as a heel on TV during the ruthless aggression era to defend Khan being himself on his Twitter account in 2022 lol
Vince did worse. He say "my nigga " on tv with a durag I believe.
@@THEATTKID to Booker T face.
Excellent question Shelton
Dude at my job last few years constantly whining about anything and everything. His attitude was priceless when he came back from vacation to find his dept looking better than ever. Never witnessed him so quiet LOL
Just like when Gyla Rose: The Neutered Beast leaves.
You just know that after Lio Rush tweeted out "apologise" Tony and Megha took him to one side and said "Lot of free agents about at the moment, do you like it here in AEW?"
Big Swoll wasn’t talking about her, she was talking about in TOTALITY, a lot of black people have questioned Tony Khan in his working with black wrestlers.
Whether you agree with Swole or not, TK handled it as badly as anyone could.
What would have been appropriate? To just ignore Swole? TK is a man of color and wasn’t gonna lay down and let Swole slander him as “ignorant” or “racist” in any way. Anyone who has followed AEW’s motives with Nyla Rose, Sunny Kiss, Anthony Bowens, etc… TK not only supports athletes of color, but he also proudly supports them if they’re gay, trans, bisexual, etc. Big Swole was simply bitter for the way she got booted to the curb and thought she could bark back at Khan. And Khan has clearly shown (Fox News) that he won’t sit idly by and let someone spread lies about AEW without him providing FACTUAL context.
What by saying she's shit? He's bang on the money.
@@jamst123 The only people who think TK is stupid for responding are far left NPC sheep who still think the vaccine actually makes them immune from COVID 19.
I think Brian is right on the money. He is not buying Tony Khan's bullshit.
“Some people, their whole lives, are just injustice collectors. They're going to find new injustices every day.”
Lorne Michaels, Saturday Night Live
Its an ironic quote, considering that SNL is basically a political show now that does exactly what he was talking about.
Lorne Michaels one of OJ Simpson's best friends who fired Norm MacDonald (RIP) when he refused to stop making fun of Simpson when the whole incident happened...
@@boosterkidrg To be fair, OJ didn’t do it. But if he did...
Lorne without a hint of irony or self awareness
I'm a Brown Anerican woman who loves wrestling. The women's division is formatted horribly. Swole was terrible. TK is an idiot. Lio hush. Corny you said it.
Well from my understanding, Big Swole was about to get a push a couple of times & she always ended being ill when that time(s) came
They gave her a push out the door.
She got several pushes! Even when she was barely active. But the girl just lacked the proper in ring skills to be on TV. WWE would never let her anywhere near a TV camera.
@@ravenbeast8639 Considering what wwe let on tv nowadays, i completely disagree.
@@august3787 True, but their women's division is pretty much the only remaining half decent thing about WWE.
@@ravenbeast8639 Even then I'm looking at who's next up from NXT and I wished they didn't make that change into 2.0 until they took it off national TV because they need a lot of work. They're making the same mistake AEW did when it began and you'd think they know better. It's a very top heavy division with few names and a bottomless pit of green women or neglected women like Liv Morgan they trying to get as much out of as possible. This isn't 2017-2018 where we can say its the best or even good, it's decent.
Money Mark pulled out the “I’m not racist, I have black friends” excuse. He was better off ignoring the comments
She’s not talented, why would they push her 😵
Even though Brian doesn't think white guys should give their opinion on racial diversity, I'm going to! Why is it that so many black wrestlers with high opinions of themselves regardless of their lack of talent always have to bring up racism when they're not happy with their push? If there is any form of sport/entertainment that has continually got more diverse with the time, it's pro wrestling! I'm not saying there haven't been actual instances of racial discrimination or ignorance etc in wrestling before, obviously there has been, but when idiots like Lio Rush or Konnan or Ahmed Johnson run their mouth because they're not being treated like the stars they think they are, it diminishes the importance of real cases of racial injustice (the boy who cried wolf syndrome if you will). Did they stop to think "hmm maybe the reason I'm being held back isn't because I'm black, it's because I suck, ?", considering how many more talented wrestlers have been held back even though they're white? It seems to me like the problem is narcissism not racism!
....also I don't want to hear any bs about how Booker T should have beat HHH at WM19! Booker shouldn't have won the championship then because Hunter retaining the championship in 03 ultimately led to Batista winning it in 04 (Batista is half Filipino btw) which made Batista a star whereas Booker was already as over as he was going to be then, and King Booker eventually winning the championship in 06 was a lot more entertaining than if stale WCW style babyface Booker had won it in 03.