June 5, 2023 - FlossTube #5 - Does a Bear $5*! in the Woods??????

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  • @loriirons9503
    @loriirons9503 Рік тому +1

    I completely understand and feel the love of a dog so very deeply. I always say that some of my very best friends in this life have never ever spoken a word to me. Our kids are grown, we do have the blessing of 5 grandchildren that we love dearly, and we have 3 dogs that are such a huge part of our lives. We just adopted a long haired wienie dog 'Cooper' who had to be given up by a lady, I am not sure why. But he is 7 months and so very sweet and only 8 pounds and in two weeks, has stolen our hearts and rules the roost!! 😂💕Just love sitting and stitching and listening to the two of you, makes me miss my 5 sisters so much. We live all over the country...so we don't see each other very often. Callie, you can put your cat in that ort bag! 🤣🐱‍

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Those fur babies are the best medicine for whatever ails you!!!

  • @TheCarolinaStitchers
    @TheCarolinaStitchers Рік тому +1

    I enjoy watching my fellow southern stitchers ❤ Happy Stitching!

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому +1

      Thank you! 😊 I started your video this morning and I will finish it on my way to work!! Great job ladies!! Wish I was going to StitchCon with y’all!! 😭

    • @TheCarolinaStitchers
      @TheCarolinaStitchers Рік тому

      @@FlossBossinCousins yay!! Hope you guys can make it next year .. it’s a blast!!

  • @GretchenHope
    @GretchenHope Рік тому +1

    Finally some other cross stitch ladies who speak my language! Love watching y’all! Can’t wait for the next video
    1 2

  • @Merrcraw15
    @Merrcraw15 Рік тому +1

    Enjoyed watching! Y'all make me smile! Happy Stitching! 🧵

  • @lindameeks5228
    @lindameeks5228 Рік тому +3

    The Needleworker piece is stunning, great stitching and framing.oh my, I'm so in love with that Liberty lane, so pretty. Losing a pet,( family member) it's devastating. Two Needles Pulling Thread, great flosstube. Handwork maniac, another good one. 1,2,3,4.
    Thank you, I love each video visit, feel like I know you both. Have blessed weeks, stitch a lot.

  • @juliemaclean679
    @juliemaclean679 Рік тому +1

    Great floss tube, love your stuff. Callie, your Needleworker is beautiful, well done! I really enjoy so much when you have a new floss tube, keep it up. Thanks so much. 2,3,4🤗🧵🪡

  • @deborahcrotty8397
    @deborahcrotty8397 6 місяців тому +1

    Hello my fellow extroverts. I loved that Christy had her glasses on her head and also on her nose! So funny. Can we please see the cow some time? I could listen to you all for hours. Love all the stitching and goodies. On to #6.

  • @mishxstitches
    @mishxstitches Рік тому +1

    Y’all need a Double Crown since you are Queen(s) of the needle. So enjoy your floss tubes! 1 & 2 please.

  • @rhondasnow5173
    @rhondasnow5173 10 місяців тому +1

    I couldn't believe it when I saw you show the magnolia you stitched for your mother. I stitched just the flower itself from that pattern on black Aida many many years ago. I never did anything with it until I rediscovered cross stitch in 2020. I found that magnolia I had stitched and turned it into a pillow. I love it so much!

  • @barbarahouser
    @barbarahouser Рік тому +1

    What a fun time! What a HAUL!!! Thank you for sharing your time & talents; see you in two weeks. 2, 4 Happy Stitching!

  • @dotdotgoosedesign-denise2230
    @dotdotgoosedesign-denise2230 Рік тому +1

    We love watching your videos at Primitive Gatherings ❤❤❤. Thank you for shouting me out

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Oohhhhh….I’ve got some beautiful shirts from there!!!! Thank you and for the the gorgeous eye candy you put in my life!!!

  • @danakuhlman5122
    @danakuhlman5122 Рік тому +1

    another fun flosstube! Something to look foward to each week!!! You all crack me up! 1

  • @lorihenderson812
    @lorihenderson812 Рік тому +1

    You ladies are great!! I am going back and watching your previous floss tubes because I have enjoyed your current videos. When you got to the Magnolia piece that was from your mom's house it brought back good memories. I also stitches that same pattern for my mom many many years ago and it still hangs in her house. Keep the videos coming!!!!

  • @monaortego1204
    @monaortego1204 Рік тому +2

    Enjoyed watching you today. Another floss tube channel I love is Stitching Fae. Her name is Heidi and she stitches everything from samplers to fabulous Mirabillia Queens. 1,2,3,4

  • @lonnalueker6161
    @lonnalueker6161 Рік тому +3

    I just love watching you ladies…thanks Garden Goose Stitcher for recommending you 😊 I always lol at something you say (your family stories are hilarious). I went back and watched your previous (4) videos!

  • @dorissanders1950
    @dorissanders1950 Рік тому +1

    Love each of your videos...just like sitting down with friends. Stitching certainly brings friends together. My cousin and I used to stitch together ...she's stitching in Heaven. We also were good at shopping together.
    Enjoy your couple of weeks.
    I would enjoy 1, 2 or 3.

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому +1

      Bless your heart!! Nothing like a cousin that is also a friend. You are our stitchy friend!!!

  • @MicD123
    @MicD123 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for a lovely flosstube! Enjoy the next few weeks! I would love #1

  • @cotterillfamily7355
    @cotterillfamily7355 Рік тому +1

    Oh boy where has my Sunday gone?? It’s been so wet and rainy here in Christchurch NZ today that I have just stitched and listened to the two of you chat and giggle. - take care, Nic x

  • @CarolOsborn-d2v
    @CarolOsborn-d2v Рік тому +1

    Listening to you two, just makes me happy. Your finds are crazy good. 1

  • @gardengoosestitcher
    @gardengoosestitcher Рік тому +1

    I love stitching with you gals keeping me company! Kea is the one that told me to watch you!! You know there's a super fun beach retreat in February in Florida! 😉

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      No!! But I need the details!?!? And why haven’t you already told me!?!?!?

  • @juneruggiero8384
    @juneruggiero8384 Рік тому +1

    1,2,7,11,12 Thanks for the smiles snd the laughs. I wish someone in my family lived cross stitch like i do. You're very lucky.💜

  • @teresacurrie3557
    @teresacurrie3557 Рік тому +1

    The 2 of you make me smile. Callie, your framed Needleworker piece is stunning!! Christy, your beautiful Liberty Lane is a delight! I surely am enjoying your flosstube videos. 😊 1

  • @carlalemaster9649
    @carlalemaster9649 Рік тому +4

    I could listen to you two all day. I would pay good money to have lunch with y'all! 😂 You are quickly becoming one of my favorite flosstubes!

  • @angela.g23
    @angela.g23 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for sharing! Love watching your flosstube! The Needleworker crossstitch is really beautiful--love the frame that you picked out it's so pretty! 1

  • @cletawaldron8623
    @cletawaldron8623 Рік тому +1

    Fancy Flamingo mentioned your flosstube and I’m so glad she did! Makes me want to move to the South! Love all your projects! Can’t wait for more!

  • @karenmeadows7216
    @karenmeadows7216 Рік тому +2

    Love, love, love your flosstubes! Better every time Thank you ladies ❤️❤️❤️

  • @jacquelineleibfried4691
    @jacquelineleibfried4691 Рік тому +1

    You two are very entertaining. You make me smile and enable me a little too much. Congrats on your growing numbers. 1.

  • @theresasharkey5467
    @theresasharkey5467 Рік тому +1

    Enjoying your floss tubes!! So much fun!

  • @krisanderson9823
    @krisanderson9823 Рік тому +1

    You two just make me giggle. Loving #1.

  • @DeeAZstitcher
    @DeeAZstitcher Рік тому +1

    Fun video, very pretty Framed Needleworker, love the DotDotGoose cow bag with zipper pull. I have two mini flip open OTT lights (from Michael's) hubby took my white one for the man cave, I take my red one for travel. Ohhhh, lots of de-stash goodies. Atomic Ranch Fabrics are very pretty colors, yet very Thin fabric. I'm doing CO Cross-stitch Camp too, already finished "Summer Whirligig" (Heart in Hand), I hope to start "Spring Bird" later this week. Tons of Haul, Wow! I saw Sarah W's monogram, so cool. Linen & Scraps is a good floss-tube to watch and also Once Upon s Stitch. 1 I think Stitch-Con "A" is this weekend.

  • @kimberlystrickland4101
    @kimberlystrickland4101 Рік тому +1

    You two are great❤❤! So enjoy it! Always fun! Love 2!

  • @rebeccaspaulding280
    @rebeccaspaulding280 Рік тому +1

    Hey ladies. Running with scissors with Jane and Julie. Shouted you all out. Glad they did. Love you all.❤ will be watching more

  • @lisasstitchinstable7779
    @lisasstitchinstable7779 Рік тому +1

    Hi y'all! That pattern is from Leisure Arts from 1988. Callie, love your little sewing machine! Christy, Leisure Lane is looking great!! Another great video ladies! Will be watching for the next one! Happy stitchin🪡

  • @Joyv5410
    @Joyv5410 Рік тому +1

    Hello ladies. Glad to spend the morning with you. What a great find on the lights. Have a great couple of weeks. 1,4

  • @suzetteamos6257
    @suzetteamos6257 Рік тому +1

    Your decoration flowers were BEAUTIFUL! Lordy I miss Alabama and y’all make me laugh outloud!!

  • @dianebeeman3084
    @dianebeeman3084 Рік тому +1

    I just love watching your videos! Another floss tube I recommend is The Stitchin Duo - it's a mother and son

  • @sofialucero3821
    @sofialucero3821 Рік тому +6

    I never feel like I'm alone when watching your flosstubes. I can't wait for the next. 2,3,4

  • @susansaunders397
    @susansaunders397 Рік тому +2

    Thank y’all so much for sharing your love of stitching, your haul, antique finds, & your time with all of us! Highlight of this day is getting to watch y’all. Loved seeing your finishes, too!
    Prayers for Alan & hope he’s feeling better! 1, 2, 3, 4.

  • @brendafoy6755
    @brendafoy6755 Рік тому +1

    Enjoyed the visit today. Hope you have a wonderful week and stitching time galore. 2

  • @dianamooney3409
    @dianamooney3409 Рік тому +1

    Loved your flosstube! Always enjoy watching you two and look forward to your next one. Last time I was in Jasper was probably 2015 maybe; I believe I took my mother to the social security office down there near the mall? It's so much better there than the Birmingham location 😮 Anyway, I hope y'all have great weekend! #1 😀💕

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому +1

      Jasper is a neat little town! And yes the social security office is one of the best around!

  • @susanbeaver9197
    @susanbeaver9197 Рік тому +1

    Just love to hear your Alabama accents. Christie, your haul is to die for. I have been ordering lots of patterns, as there are so many great ones out there. Keep doing what you do. Love your videos. 1

  • @marilynnvanden9704
    @marilynnvanden9704 Рік тому +1

    I am so pleased and blessed to find and follow / listen / learn and laugh along with you ladies! Keep the stories coming! Cheering you on from Ontario Canada ! 2

  • @angiefittro8372
    @angiefittro8372 Рік тому +1

    You two are so entertaining. You remind me of Garnet Rose Stitchers. My stress level reduces greatly when I watch you both.

  • @pattyallder8795
    @pattyallder8795 Рік тому +1

    Y’all just make my day. Thanks for taking the time to share your stitching. 1. ❤

  • @Longfellowstitcher
    @Longfellowstitcher Рік тому +1

    I love the black glasses on top of your head along with the yellow on your face!! My kind of people!

  • @pattyaltier7234
    @pattyaltier7234 Рік тому +1

    Another fun video. Floss tubs I like to watch are Momma loves you GB, Northwood Stitcher, Saltbox stitcher, Fox and Rabbit

  • @wandamallows1006
    @wandamallows1006 Рік тому +1

    More fun…love it! You gals are hilarious. Easy as 1,2,3👏👏👏

  • @laurietuck9644
    @laurietuck9644 Рік тому +1

    Another great flosstube! love you guys so much!!

  • @Handmadebysarahw
    @Handmadebysarahw Рік тому +1

    I love catchin up with y’all. Callie your framed needleworker looks amazing. I’ve got the home of a needleworker framed and hanging by my stitchy spot. Christy I love your haul specifically all your pretty fabrics. I really love that purple flower project bag too! So pretty! Thanks for sending people to watch me ❤️ 2

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Thank you!! I’m proud of you for stepping out of that box and joining us!!!

  • @NDQuilter1
    @NDQuilter1 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for this time with you, always so fun. 1😊💕

  • @cherylbrumbaugh4022
    @cherylbrumbaugh4022 Рік тому +1

    Great Flosstube! I love your stories. Always looking forward to the next one. Happy stitching!
    1, 2, 4

  • @donnatl82
    @donnatl82 Рік тому +1

    Loved your video you are just so fun. You had me laughing so hard. The upside down tape measure on the little black sewing machine 😅😅. The finished needleworker piece is gorgeous. Enjoy your day

  • @raggedygene1770
    @raggedygene1770 Рік тому +1

    Loved the time spent - enjoyed it very much. 1, 2, 3, 4. Happy Stitching❤❤

  • @reneeriley6629
    @reneeriley6629 Рік тому +1

    So nice to spend time with the both of you! Be Well

  • @GlammyBee
    @GlammyBee Рік тому +1

    I'm binging your back videos while I stitch this weekend! Thank you for being my stitch company! If someone hasn't yet mentioned it, the unknown schoolhouse pattern is Little Red Schoolhouse from Leisure Arts (Sheila Tune Upham). When I first started stitching in the late 80's, I loved all the Leisure Arts patterns (and their magazines) because they were in full color (which wasn't all that common) and were easy (to me) to follow. Happy Stitching! Lynn

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Thank you!!! Isn’t it amazing how patterns have changed over the years?? Thank you for spending your time with us!!!

  • @marshawindisch5150
    @marshawindisch5150 Рік тому +1

    I defiantly enjoy each & everyone of your videos! Thank for doing them & keeping me company while I stitch. ❤😊

  • @theresasharkey5467
    @theresasharkey5467 Рік тому +1

    Hello from Wisconsin! Loving your flosstubes! Interested in #4, the teacup with birds. Thanks for opportunity! Keep stitching!

  • @HeatherEllis13
    @HeatherEllis13 Рік тому +1

    Thank you for another great video ladies! Callie, you did an amazing job fixing the sewing bird and tape measure. Your ribbon rack is gorgeous Christy! 1, 2

  • @marybrooks9658
    @marybrooks9658 Рік тому +1

    Ladies I just love watching you two! Feels like your right with me cross stiching 😊 1,2.

  • @kathysmith9129
    @kathysmith9129 Рік тому +1

    I binged watched all your videos this weekend and then found you did another one! I have enjoyed everyone of them and look forward to watching #6.

  • @jomariehogle1980
    @jomariehogle1980 Рік тому +1

    Another enjoyable video ladies. Love seeing what you are working on and finishes also. Great haul. Thanks for sharing. 2

  • @sammiemeacham1714
    @sammiemeacham1714 Рік тому +2

    Just love you, ladies. It's like visiting with friends. Thanks so much. 3 and 4

  • @joannejones147
    @joannejones147 Рік тому +4

    Oh my. You two always make my evening when you release a new Flosstube episode. Yes, I save you for my evening viewing, when I’m sitting down, stitching, and know that I won’t be interrupted. I do get a few looks from my husband when I suddenly burst out laughing! All I can say, is it’s just as well I did my Kegel exercises after I had my kids 😂. Christie, I love watching your haul portion of the video - it makes me feel so much better about my stitchy spending. However, I’m not as good at getting such great deals as you! Numbers 1 and 2 please. Love you ladies, happy stitching xxxx

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      It’s my therapy!!! And thank goodness I have a husband who supports me!! 😜

  • @cherylculbertson5233
    @cherylculbertson5233 Рік тому +1

    Loved your Needlework piece all framed!! Have a great week. 1 😊

  • @SuperMacmom
    @SuperMacmom Рік тому +1

    You two ladies have really become very comfortable in your new role of a floss tube channel must watch!! So enjoy you gals. I am a northerner so it did take me a bit to get use to you Alabama drawl. But I only miss a word or two here and there. Good thing there is a back up button…. Over and over again. 😊 #1 Looking forward to your next video!

  • @kimberwatts
    @kimberwatts Рік тому +1

    Another great video ladies!! Loved your beautiful finishes! Have a great week!

  • @stacymaris6375
    @stacymaris6375 Рік тому +1

    Hey Y’all. My sister and I are enjoying your flosstube videos over here in Mississippi. Glad to have some neighbors to watch. Happy stitching!

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Thank you!! What part of Mississippi?

    • @stacymaris6375
      @stacymaris6375 Рік тому +1

      @@FlossBossinCousins we are in central Mississippi,not far from Ridgeland MS

  • @jacksheilaweber4322
    @jacksheilaweber4322 Рік тому +1

    Hi ladies, I love all your makes. They are beautiful!! 1, 2, 3, 4. Thank you for your podcast! All the best, Sheila

  • @lorettahenderson8979
    @lorettahenderson8979 Рік тому +1

    Thank you gals for a lovely visit❤❤

  • @Chris_Yoo__AsTheYooFlies
    @Chris_Yoo__AsTheYooFlies Рік тому +1

    You guys are too much fun!! Love your projects and thanks for the shares. I would love 1 this time. I'm still cracking up about the $11 ott lights LOL. I never get that type of luck! I attended Stitch-Con weekend A. It was fabulous and it was my very first cross stitch retreat. Met some great people!! Hugs from NE Ohio.

  • @heatherfodor8115
    @heatherfodor8115 Рік тому +1

    The Curious Crafters are fun to watch. They live out in California and it's not only enjoyable to see what everyone is stitching but to see what life is like in other parts of the world. 1

  • @stitchinggrannyof18
    @stitchinggrannyof18 Рік тому +1

    You ladies have been busy, lots of shopping 1 queen of the needle is sew pretty. Thanks for spending time with us today. Question are you starting a new craft room with all the haul lol 😂 shopping sew much fun! Happy Stitching!

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Good question! I have one room of our basement is my craft room!

  • @hilaryrasmussen5736
    @hilaryrasmussen5736 Рік тому +2

    You two were just what I needed tonight. You are both the best and so funny. As always your stitching and framing are beautiful. Love the bags. I am so glad you got the deal on the lights. Have a fantastic week.

  • @sandianaya5141
    @sandianaya5141 Рік тому +1

    Bless you both

  • @lkradfo
    @lkradfo Рік тому +1

    I always look forward to your videos. I am amazed at the amount of fabric that you showed in your haul. I'm a new stitcher and have 4 fabrics and thought that was a lot. LOL Your videos always make me smile. 1,2

  • @audrea5515
    @audrea5515 Рік тому +1

    Love love love you ladies! #2 would be great!!

  • @nautastar
    @nautastar Рік тому +2

    You two are so much fun!! Thanks for posting! 3

  • @FabShabbyRose
    @FabShabbyRose Рік тому +1

    A sweet video ladies! I enjoyed listening to you both as I crocheted on my granddaughters afghan! A pleasant way to spend my morning! Hey find with those lamps Christy! Can’t wait til your next one!

  • @karathompson5568
    @karathompson5568 Рік тому +1

    You are delightful! SO glad I found you.

  • @FrankieKins112
    @FrankieKins112 Рік тому +1

    I so enjoy your Flosstube, partly because you sound like my Arkansas relatives! :D You two are delightful!

  • @TheDairyMom
    @TheDairyMom Рік тому +1

    I love your Flosstube! Christie, your linen haul is amazing! 2

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Thank you so much! I’m building it so when the next pandemic hits, I’ll be ready!

  • @dawnmyers8646
    @dawnmyers8646 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for the laughs today. I soooo enjoyed catching up with you and look forward to your next one. 💗💕

    • @FlossBossinCousins
      @FlossBossinCousins  Рік тому

      Awww thank you Dawn! Thank you for making beautiful bags that I can show off to Flosstube land!!!!

  • @Snichols315
    @Snichols315 Рік тому +2

    I love catching up with you two! You are both such a delight! Keep 'em coming!

  • @pat5840
    @pat5840 Рік тому +1

    You are both a delight! 1 and 3 please. See ya next time❣️

  • @dawnbarney2659
    @dawnbarney2659 Рік тому +1

    Leisure Arts Little Red Schoolhouse # 653 Cross Stitch Upham. Also shows a band of red houses to put around a basket. Very pretty. Enjoy your flosstube very much.

  • @SNNGS
    @SNNGS Рік тому +1

    Oh Ladies, your are so much fun to watch!
    Love the stitching, conversation and you are just fun!! Off to a great start! Now to binge watch the previous videos!
    Glad I found you ladies early on before a whole ton to catch up on!!

  • @maryhelenrodriguez3487
    @maryhelenrodriguez3487 Рік тому +1

    I enjoy watching the family love that you both share .1,2,4

  • @susanalston7941
    @susanalston7941 Рік тому +1

    Another great video!!!! So enjoyed watching everything you both have to share. Callie, your needleworker piece is beautiful! Christy, I'm praying for healing for your husband. Ring it on up, I would have grabbed all the lights up too. 1,2,4 see you on the next flosstube!

  • @rachaelthecreativecleric
    @rachaelthecreativecleric Рік тому +1

    Sitting here feeling poorly after having to return home early from my holiday 😢. You’ve brightened my day and encouraged me to stitch a bit.
    Love your bargain light, I’d have done the same thing, gone and bought all three!
    1,2,4

  • @joyceclowser3371
    @joyceclowser3371 Рік тому +1

    Your videos are so good! Just like sitting down with family! You ladies get a lot done!! Happy stitching!! Off to watch number six!

  • @juliehart6952
    @juliehart6952 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for being from the South! Arkansas here. Kentucky native. Went to school in Tennessee. 1 4. Fun, ladies, thanks!

  • @craftymom205
    @craftymom205 Рік тому +1

    So glad I found your flosstube. I am from Alabama also.

  • @sugarhillstitcher4084
    @sugarhillstitcher4084 Рік тому +1

    Love watching y’all and hearing your stories! Keep them coming.! #2 is beautiful!❤❤🤠

  • @conniesimonich2327
    @conniesimonich2327 Рік тому +1

    Just found your flosstube and throughly enjoyed it. Now to bing watch the rest. 1,2,

  • @peggynewton7382
    @peggynewton7382 Рік тому +1

    Another great video. You two remind me of my cousin and I. We had so much fun with crafting together. Hope you two have a blessed week. 1,2

  • @michelefish5087
    @michelefish5087 Рік тому +1

    Christie that was a mighty impressive haul!! Hope you have a wonderful weekend!!1,2,3

  • @scrapmeme54
    @scrapmeme54 Рік тому +2

    As I have said before, I absolutely love watching you two. Love the stories and I feel as though I have know you both forever! The stitching stuff is a bonus. 1,2,3,4

  • @deborahbrown6061
    @deborahbrown6061 Рік тому +1

    I can't remember the last time I laughed so hard! And I'm telling you, boob sweat is for real! Ya'll remind me of me and my cousin - laughing and enabling!! Stay blessed until we see you again! 1, 2,

  • @Carolyns23
    @Carolyns23 Рік тому +2

    What a treat to see a new video from the two of you! Callie, your Needleworker finish is stunning, with the perfect frame! Also, congrats to your stepdaughter on her first job. Christy, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the called-for colors you're using on Liberty Lane! The colors really pop and are a nice change from the traditional navy/red palette. As for the OttLite deal you got at Joann's, I need to go to Joann's and see if they have any OTTLite lamps on clearance.

  • @michelegibbs9261
    @michelegibbs9261 Рік тому +3

    I always enjoy spending time with the two of you. I feel like I’m sitting with friends and stitching. I too live vicariously through the video recaps of Stitch Con! Looking forward to your next video. 1 and 2