To those who are seeking to create a new project and don't know what to do, pick anything! A majority of stuff you learn on one project will carry over to the next. Making gui applications do carry from desktop to mobile, embedded does carry over to games and other low level apis. Don't worry and just start!
I am confused between web apps and games actually, i had tried game dev earlier, but didn't do it seriously! But the idea of coming up with a game idea and turning it into a prototype and if it works, doing all the art, music and coding and finally polishing it excites me, i love the game design part of game dev most and participation in game jam to work collaboratively with a team to create a game also makes me energised On the other hand, I have tried learning html css and js and tried to see the whole curriculum of web dev, i also want to create web apps through finding unique ideas and implementing them through code by problem solving(personal projects) The problem is I have limited time and I cns only start with one right now, but I am confused which one it should be
I took my courses and ended up being a dev for one of my state government departments. I get paid less than devs in private but my health insurance, guaranteed vacation/sick/personal time, retirement options and... most importantly... JOB SECURITY are all top notch. I work remotely 50% of the time, and am giving my family a better life than I ever expected coming from a pretty low income family growing up.
Hey man, what courses did you take and what do you recommend for me trying to get more experience to get an internship as a comp sci major currently in my second year at college?
same man, i just took a position with my state government after college and im so excited! less pay but better literally everything else. worth it for me since money isnt my main goal, balance is.
I applied to 100's of remote positions, never heard back. I switched up and started going to job fairs locally and applied to mainly local companies. That got me my first offer lol. Software Engineer Intern. First role out of Full-Stack Bootcamp. Don't give up people. Stay the course. You are worthy!
Such a fascinating perspective on how AI is reshaping the job market! As a student learning AI/ML at moonpreneur, It's exciting to see the innovation happening, especially as industries adapt to new technologies. The discussion about AI’s potential in career development and how professionals can leverage AI for personal growth is so important. Can’t wait to see how this evolution continues to unfold!
I got my degree in mechanical engineering in 2005. I obviously worked for well over a decade. Tried my own business at a stage, twice. 2020 came by, moving on... I'm 42 and probably just a few short months away from applying for my first job. The road is not easy. You will want to quit. Hell I wanted to quit last week, again. But I didn't. Keep on keeping on, eventually you get there, one small step at a time. As for money, it's a short term motivator. You can be earning $300k a year and still be unhappy. I wouldn't ever choose a career path based on money. Go for what's interesting. Ultimately the perfect job doesn't exist anyway. All the best, and start today, for whoever is reading this. Consistency is key.
I was probably 12-13 years old when I got a Commadore 64 to play games on. But then I got interested in programming it (basic and asm). It was my hobby. And as a software engineer today it is still more like a hobby to me than work because I love it. So get paid great money for my hobby 😀
personally, I'm programming for like a year now as a hobby and I decided to actually go to college, since I wanted to have a guide and some kind of a feedback. No idea if I chose the best path, but I guess I can never know that. I'm looking forward.
40+ years as a software developer, doing a vast array of different kinds of projects for a couple of big and a bunch of small companies, employed and self-employed. Your advice is awesome, because it's what I did and it worked for me. Knowledge is power. Problem solving is the fun part of programming. The more and wider experiences you make for yourself make you a better problem solver.
I'm a scientist and engineer. My fields of interest are chemical engineering, materials science, electrochemistry, and molecular physics. My training is strictly experimental, but I think I have to learn more about theory and simulation. I think I ought to learn to code and build AI/ML/DL models so I can make better simulations to inform my experimental work, which I believe will then allow me to make better models. Manus manum lavat.
He isn't wrong though... with the path AI is going program writing will be automated very soon and humans will pretty much be going behind the AI and cleaning it up.
@@IOWNA11 Exactly, but it will never be fully automated, every programmer will have to sit behind each AI writing the code. Ai will only fix small coding snippets. It will take a long long time til Ai will have full control over codebases, it is just not safe at all.
@@IOWNA11completely false, ai has been plateauing for several years now, and is increasingly being trained on other ai slop, further poisoning the well
its crazy how 99999% of all these youtubers are all frontend warriors lol. I would reccomend getting into niche backend languages, you will be competing against 99% less people
@@sumthinvishus0361 ultimately you will have to end up choosing what you enjoy! frontend and backend are both very different. but yeah, nowadays most youtubers ive seen are some type of JS/TS developer either doing frontend (mostly what ive seen) or back end. You gotta eventually make the decision depending on what language you like/feel most comfortable with. For example, for me, I'm currently learning C# since I want to do games and cross-platform applications.
Already half way through my computer science degree and I hate to admit it, but I'm one of the people whop doesn't do much coding outside of school(I work full time along with taking classes so I dont have much time), but that changes right now. I'm gonna start trying to do at least some bit of a coding a week. Even if its just one small part of a bigger project at least its something.
I'm currently a junior in highschool taking a programming class at a career center and I absolutely enjoy programming! I'm currently working with java and I have a lot of fun writing code. I love the entire problem solving process of it and I really want to make games! Programming is something I am very passionate for!
I would kill for a job offer at $80k, some people might view that as lower compensation but as a student only just starting out I would absolutely be over the moon at an offer like that
Damn you've give the best advices on the spot and if people follows your advices he will be a great programmer for sure. I have experience of programming but gotten lazy lately in building my projects and it does damage the skill progress. So stay determined, motivated, and keep on practicing. If you don't practice, you will rust.
me who feels I can learn and conquer every corner of this modern software realm. realizing programming is not a hobby or job or something you just do for the sake of doing it programming is much more than that. is a way you express yourself way to embrace and unleash your creativity and knowledge for others to use this field made me know my purpose and helped me a lot to surpass tough times in my life. makes me realize everything within my reach and I am ready to dedicate my life to fulfilling this purpose. i hope you all guys found your ultimate motivation to achieve your desires.
I've been there and most likely people are just overwhelmed and after that impostor syndrome kicks in and you'll stop doing what you do because you think its not for you. But after talking to some professional and even my developer friends is that most of the time they don't know how to do it but they will still do it. Persistence is the key.
I actually needed this video, it made me realize i have to DO and not only study how to do something, but try to do it even though idk how to. Thank you.
The video, I knew I needed but never went ahead searching for it, now when it just popped up on the home page feed, i couldn't resist watching it and here I am after watching it, and I think of it as a good decision Thanks man You made an important remark: Don't do it if you don't enjoy it. No wonder I was so confused.... Heads up for carving my own path
Greetings! New subscriber here!! And a total tech newbie. You had me at several points you spoke about.... like putting to practice what is learned... the REAL tech job stats.... and what seems as your transparency & honesty about the industry. I really appreciate all the support!!
As a person who has used a few types of saws working on your saw skills is something you do need to work on. Can't build something if you suck at cutting
To those who are talking about a CS Degree or "hating" it. Let me just remind you something. By studying CS it's NOT just Code = programmer. CS is a Science with a lot of fields and each field has some code in it, deal with it. Nowadays Almost every science need coding at least for something. BUT, as I said, CS is not just CODE. CS is a Science and as science must be treated. I'm a Network Engineer from CS university, am I a programmer? No. Do I know how to code (FOR MY FIELD) yes. So, in very simple way, you're not studying CS cause you want to be a programmer, you studying CS cause you want to be a Computer Scientist or an Engineer. You can become a programmer without any degree by just working on projects and watching UA-cam. In network engineering and Computer Security I mostly spend (and still spending) MOST of my time working on maths than coding and if someone followed this path from CS knows exactly what I'm saying ( yeah yeah, I know, Computer Security and Cybersecurity is more complex and they need good coding foundation but that's not my point here (: ). Finally, Cause you studying CS doesn't mean you will become a programmer (and TBH it's the least you have to deal with). By studying CS just cause you want to code without considering the other factors such as, engineering, maths etc. etc. then don't. It's better if you try some projects by your own and following some tutorials or taking some courses and build your own portfolio. CS is not about coding, but about mathematics and then coding. Some fields require less maths while others require very good maths knowledge and if you want to go down that "CS path" you will tackle almost all of them without any reason once you want to become a programmer. Studying CS is not about programmers only and if you want to follow CS to become a programmer it's a good idea but not the best (nowadays)~
Bro, school is not as bad as you are describing. You work on problems in school too. I always recommend students make their own side projects too, especially at the beginning of the semester when things are slower
No matter how many tutorials I watched, what helped me learn was making a small bullet hell game on a game engine (game maker for me)and when I got stuck I either watched videos or asked copilot :) ai is the future so use it to your advantage.
amazing video bro, thanks! I'm Designer that wants know the basics of programming to communicate better with my team of devs and of course, building some cool things
I think its the best video i watched about this topic. Well explained, Very detailed ,great examples with a kept open mind. Im definetely subscribing dude thank you!
This is so spot on. When I got into computer hardware in the mid 90s I spent time learning and breaking things. Now, I am tutorial-driven and it is awful. I am going to start using man pages and learning C again. I am done with tutorials. Thanks, Forest!
I know this film is old and don't know If You will see my comment. I want to thank you. I lost my job my few days ago. Not only that, but I lost my self-confident, but this help me fetch drive again. It is really important for me because I'm struggling with depression and anxiety.
I left the CS field for a few years, haven't seen a Forrest knight video in a long time. Came back to this video and suddenly Forrest's voice is way deeper than I remember. Epic style.
Everything will be uninteresting in time. That’s it. I like sometimes to coding, and it can be interesting. But also it’s interesting for me, because I wanna get money in order to live better, and to my family live better.
I am all about the build-build-build. It’s a good way to learn, ideally it’s fun, and also it helps you figure out if you really want to do this. However, one gotcha if you intend on taking classes? You’ll be more bored than you have ever been in your life with the first course or two. The first day was explaining the difference between integers and floating point and other very-basic basics. And my teacher doesn’t have a 2x speed button either. At least in my case, if I want the certificate, I have to take the entry level course. Hey, at least it isn’t typing; back in the 90s in high school, I had to take a half year of typing to get into the Turbo Pascal programming class, and I was already sitting a little above 100wpm by that point. I got the micromanaging typing teacher too. I don’t use classic home row positioning, so we repeatedly had the “use home row” why? “It is faster” cool, show me? “I don’t type as fast as you” - Well yeah, I know, maybe that’s because you spend your time worrying about home row? 😂 Eve more fun, we both knew that home row positioning was like 10% of the grade, actual typing speed or showing an improvement would nail the other 90% and I nailed both. “Fun” times.
Making more money doing something that I enjoy?! That's great to hear! Time to start 'not being productive and watching UA-cam shorts' company, can't wait for the $$$!
I'm a 37-year-old old-timer already making a good salary in Digital Marketing & Data, which I also enjoy, but I like to build stuff so I've started to learn to code. I started with Javascript just because it's used in ad scripts. I want to learn to code in JavaScript to be able to write scripts for marketing automation and other stuff. Still, I also want to learn to make some games (and learn other languages more suited to building games), even though I don't even play computer games myself. Seriously, besides Heroes of Might and Magic 15 years ago, I've never really played games. But, they seem like a cool thing to try so why not. Also, apps interest me. The nice thing about not having monetary stress or career stress involved in it is I can do whatever the heck I find awesome.
Isn't the bit about money at the start a little.....gatekeep-ey? What if you're not passionate about anything in particular? I keep getting contradictory information about this coming from all sort of YT programmers, because at the end of the day, it's just a job.
I would like to develop something that is a real help to people. I want to solve world-changing problems. I want to break through the barriers that people have in their heads and are falsely convinced that they are worthless. The revolutionary fusion between hardware and software that shines like a beacon of hope for everyone in the dark. Programming fascinates me again and again but I can't get anywhere... There must be a way to get started...
Broo you just made my life so sorted with this just one video I am a graduate in ai&ds last month from India in wanted to come in tech I m so grateful founded this video while starting my journey thanks mate❤🎉
I created a react native app cli where i want to connect BLE(BlueTooh Low Energy) devices using ble-manager npm. It was tedious for me just to setup, SDKs, right jdk , handle, and get to how things happens, but it was a nice experience for me get to know about the working of Bluetooth within app.
I've been "coding" for like 3 to 4 years but those 4 years have been in the tutorial hell, i cant seem do to something on my own i have to always go watch a video to understand how i write that specific thing that i want to do
Another way I have been learning to code is by having AI to explain code. And then ask it to give a quiz on what I just learned. By doing this I have learned to read code and write code. I've also had AI give me a 100 question test and then grade it and see where I need to work on more. Now I am a better programmer and I feel much better about what I read and write code. Sometimes I found myself forgetting something and having to go back and refresh. But by using this idea with AI, I have gotten much stronger in my coding.. I agree with you on getting your hands in something and just start writing code.. I just wanted to add this to your video. Test taking is another way to learn coding. Plus you can see where you need help if you get something wrong or something not working EX EX EX..
For the Job Fair thing, that actually wouldn't work for the college I went to. You had to sign in with your student ID in order to get into the Job Fair.
I did a code bootcamp and came out hating web dev. 5 years later and today I am making a blog and learning Rust. I want to become one of the low level systems programmers I always envied. I do not care for the modern web app ecosystem.
One has to be stupid to think that being a software engineer will bring you fortune Its just regular earnings you will make by doing 9-5 Lawyer and other professional makes way more than a soft Engineer with less work
What I think is the most under estimated problem in programming. Is the massive amount of problems, not related to the source code. Installing different packages, linking libraries, driver compatibilities, and the deep sea of command lines that you just are supposed to know (because there are not intuitive way to figure it out). I always get stuck in my projects and never finish them ...
basically u're the jesus of programming LMAO, pretty important things I didn't think and know at all, good video man I'm in the half of the video btw, but pretty sure is a good one
I like computers and solving problems, but I spent most of my career putting Band-Aids on software cancers. There's a great market for keeping ancient, home-grown systems running. However, weeding through code built on horrible designs gets old. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be an actuary.
Thank goodness you mentioned the whole reddit skew towards doom and gloom. Thought I was going crazy after checking a job site and then checking reddit. Complete different reality.
Problem solving. That's the crux. Programming is just a small subdomain of problem solving. And as a trainer, it's mostly where things go bad. Most people DON'T think the "right way". Fastest way to get some insight on people is to give them a small problem that doesn't require any special knowledge but requires them to think about it. "Potential developers" will show a certain type of thought process as they go from A to B. People with little to no potential will be either all over the place or plain stuck.
I'm not sure I necessarily want to be a programmer, but I do want to be able to program and understand these technologies better for my own curiosity. If there ends up being money in that somehow, that's cool too.
Chat bots and youtube tutorials are best for piecing the puzzle together. it's like learning to read before you learn to write. It's a terrible idea to learn how to program by typing aimlessly in the terminal expecting results. Tutorial hell is following a video, screen switching, and copying while you have no idea of the fundementals. I'd compare it people repeating a forign language as they hear it and expecting to know the meaning if they repeat it more without the words ever being translated.
1:23 that's a load of bull. I have a job that I enjoy doing, and yet the payment is garbage and doesn't guarantee a bright future. Then what do you choose?
I don’t have experience as an experienced programmer. Generally though, for learning new skills- this video is absolutely killer. Also, I love your style, man. You’ve got a really cool Mid-western dad vibe about you- it’s very disarming. Keep up the awesome videos!
You are like jesus of software engineers. With mustache... by the way thanks alot i think this experiences is the best thing at this career because its like the treasure and its so important ❤❤❤
To those who are seeking to create a new project and don't know what to do, pick anything! A majority of stuff you learn on one project will carry over to the next. Making gui applications do carry from desktop to mobile, embedded does carry over to games and other low level apis. Don't worry and just start!
you are on point!
@@carpusmediainc4766 I am everywhere and nowhere. Or just bound to the internet all the time *sigh*.
@@MrPoselskybro i need your help, can you be my mentor
I am confused between web apps and games actually, i had tried game dev earlier, but didn't do it seriously! But the idea of coming up with a game idea and turning it into a prototype and if it works, doing all the art, music and coding and finally polishing it excites me, i love the game design part of game dev most and participation in game jam to work collaboratively with a team to create a game also makes me energised
On the other hand, I have tried learning html css and js and tried to see the whole curriculum of web dev, i also want to create web apps through finding unique ideas and implementing them through code by problem solving(personal projects)
The problem is I have limited time and I cns only start with one right now, but I am confused which one it should be
@@rein556 can u tell me how u learned game dev because i have learned the basics of c++ but i don't know what to do after this
I took my courses and ended up being a dev for one of my state government departments. I get paid less than devs in private but my health insurance, guaranteed vacation/sick/personal time, retirement options and... most importantly... JOB SECURITY are all top notch. I work remotely 50% of the time, and am giving my family a better life than I ever expected coming from a pretty low income family growing up.
Can u give me some guidance plz ?
What courses did you take?
Hey man, what courses did you take and what do you recommend for me trying to get more experience to get an internship as a comp sci major currently in my second year at college?
What course did you take?
same man, i just took a position with my state government after college and im so excited! less pay but better literally everything else. worth it for me since money isnt my main goal, balance is.
I applied to 100's of remote positions, never heard back. I switched up and started going to job fairs locally and applied to mainly local companies. That got me my first offer lol. Software Engineer Intern. First role out of Full-Stack Bootcamp. Don't give up people. Stay the course. You are worthy!
What course did u take?
This is very valuable advice! Job fairs allow for immediate rapport and can definitely get you past the ATS part of the process
@@yoyoiziahor it can just get you told "apply on our website"
Thank you man
Such a fascinating perspective on how AI is reshaping the job market! As a student learning AI/ML at moonpreneur, It's exciting to see the innovation happening, especially as industries adapt to new technologies. The discussion about AI’s potential in career development and how professionals can leverage AI for personal growth is so important. Can’t wait to see how this evolution continues to unfold!
I got my degree in mechanical engineering in 2005. I obviously worked for well over a decade. Tried my own business at a stage, twice. 2020 came by, moving on... I'm 42 and probably just a few short months away from applying for my first job. The road is not easy. You will want to quit. Hell I wanted to quit last week, again. But I didn't. Keep on keeping on, eventually you get there, one small step at a time.
As for money, it's a short term motivator. You can be earning $300k a year and still be unhappy. I wouldn't ever choose a career path based on money. Go for what's interesting. Ultimately the perfect job doesn't exist anyway. All the best, and start today, for whoever is reading this. Consistency is key.
How come your businesses didn't work out ?
@@yessir5999 silk road
I was probably 12-13 years old when I got a Commadore 64 to play games on. But then I got interested in programming it (basic and asm). It was my hobby. And as a software engineer today it is still more like a hobby to me than work because I love it. So get paid great money for my hobby 😀
personally, I'm programming for like a year now as a hobby and I decided to actually go to college, since I wanted to have a guide and some kind of a feedback. No idea if I chose the best path, but I guess I can never know that. I'm looking forward.
if you are watching tutorials dont only copy the code, try to change the code just even a bit to make it suit for you better.
That's what I always do! Another thing, try to make the code shorter, or even just trying to understand it on a deeper level is good.
I try to repeat the code after finishing but in a different way
@@basharaasabeh3487 and that's a great practice too!
40+ years as a software developer, doing a vast array of different kinds of projects for a couple of big and a bunch of small companies, employed and self-employed. Your advice is awesome, because it's what I did and it worked for me. Knowledge is power. Problem solving is the fun part of programming. The more and wider experiences you make for yourself make you a better problem solver.
I've seen ALOT of videos about beginner programmers and this is the best guide literally perfect!
I'm a scientist and engineer. My fields of interest are chemical engineering, materials science, electrochemistry, and molecular physics. My training is strictly experimental, but I think I have to learn more about theory and simulation. I think I ought to learn to code and build AI/ML/DL models so I can make better simulations to inform my experimental work, which I believe will then allow me to make better models. Manus manum lavat.
This guy a year ago literally said programming will be dead in 5 years now hes pitching how to become a programmer. The grift is real 😔
He isn't wrong though... with the path AI is going program writing will be automated very soon and humans will pretty much be going behind the AI and cleaning it up.
@@IOWNA11 then why are you watching a video about how to become a programmer?
@@IOWNA11 Exactly, but it will never be fully automated, every programmer will have to sit behind each AI writing the code. Ai will only fix small coding snippets. It will take a long long time til Ai will have full control over codebases, it is just not safe at all.
@@IOWNA11 AI is a big ponzi scheme anyways and it'll get buried just like digital currencies and NFTs lol
@@IOWNA11completely false, ai has been plateauing for several years now, and is increasingly being trained on other ai slop, further poisoning the well
its crazy how 99999% of all these youtubers are all frontend warriors lol. I would reccomend getting into niche backend languages, you will be competing against 99% less people
Can you give an example? I’m new to this and trying to figure out where to go.
@@sumthinvishus0361 ultimately you will have to end up choosing what you enjoy! frontend and backend are both very different. but yeah, nowadays most youtubers ive seen are some type of JS/TS developer either doing frontend (mostly what ive seen) or back end. You gotta eventually make the decision depending on what language you like/feel most comfortable with. For example, for me, I'm currently learning C# since I want to do games and cross-platform applications.
Already half way through my computer science degree and I hate to admit it, but I'm one of the people whop doesn't do much coding outside of school(I work full time along with taking classes so I dont have much time), but that changes right now. I'm gonna start trying to do at least some bit of a coding a week. Even if its just one small part of a bigger project at least its something.
if you don't put 100% of yourself AI will take over you at this pace
Yessir, a little at a time adds up. Soon you'll be designing million dollar ideas :D
Bro you’re not gonna have a job dude anyone saying any different is coping my guy
@@MichaelMartinez-ke4hp what? Make no sense my man. Absolutely none.
@@MichaelMartinez-ke4hp Stupid fucking attitude to have for life in general lol
we can do this dont give up
I'm currently a junior in highschool taking a programming class at a career center and I absolutely enjoy programming! I'm currently working with java and I have a lot of fun writing code. I love the entire problem solving process of it and I really want to make games! Programming is something I am very passionate for!
I would kill for a job offer at $80k, some people might view that as lower compensation but as a student only just starting out I would absolutely be over the moon at an offer like that
In this field you either have all the money or none of it. 😂
Thank you for making this video. Really encouraging for me as I am pursuing a career in software engineering.
Damn you've give the best advices on the spot and if people follows your advices he will be a great programmer for sure. I have experience of programming but gotten lazy lately in building my projects and it does damage the skill progress. So stay determined, motivated, and keep on practicing. If you don't practice, you will rust.
me who feels I can learn and conquer every corner of this modern software realm.
realizing programming is not a hobby or job or something you just do for the sake of doing it
programming is much more than that. is a way you express yourself
way to embrace and unleash your creativity and knowledge for others to use
this field made me know my purpose and helped me a lot to surpass tough times in my life. makes me realize everything within my reach
and I am ready to dedicate my life to fulfilling this purpose.
i hope you all guys found your ultimate motivation to achieve your desires.
Sure.
programming is a hobby
I too feel the same way. I feel that i can learn and master every single thing from programming to hardware and networking to AI and ML😅
This is a good video to have out there. Also, really enjoy your take on it all! Especially the part on the importance of enjoying it.
You’re a cool dude. This was exactly what I needed
I've been there and most likely people are just overwhelmed and after that impostor syndrome kicks in and you'll stop doing what you do because you think its not for you. But after talking to some professional and even my developer friends is that most of the time they don't know how to do it but they will still do it. Persistence is the key.
Very informative! Thanks for literally spilling most of the important stuff in 20 minutes ^^
I actually needed this video, it made me realize i have to DO and not only study how to do something, but try to do it even though idk how to. Thank you.
Thank you a lot! I don’t usually comment but this is so solid! You gave me such a boost to continue what I’ve already started! 💫
One of best videos I’ve watched so far about code and developers
The video, I knew I needed but never went ahead searching for it, now when it just popped up on the home page feed, i couldn't resist watching it and here I am after watching it, and I think of it as a good decision
Thanks man
You made an important remark:
Don't do it if you don't enjoy it.
No wonder I was so confused....
Heads up for carving my own path
I've been quite overwhelmed by how or where to start. This is very helpful thank you
Man I love your videos so much. Holy crap. Great work as always Forrest.
Greetings!
New subscriber here!! And a total tech newbie. You had me at several points you spoke about.... like putting to practice what is learned... the REAL tech job stats.... and what seems as your transparency & honesty about the industry.
I really appreciate all the support!!
As a person who has used a few types of saws working on your saw skills is something you do need to work on. Can't build something if you suck at cutting
To those who are talking about a CS Degree or "hating" it. Let me just remind you something. By studying CS it's NOT just Code = programmer. CS is a Science with a lot of fields and each field has some code in it, deal with it. Nowadays Almost every science need coding at least for something. BUT, as I said, CS is not just CODE. CS is a Science and as science must be treated. I'm a Network Engineer from CS university, am I a programmer? No. Do I know how to code (FOR MY FIELD) yes.
So, in very simple way, you're not studying CS cause you want to be a programmer, you studying CS cause you want to be a Computer Scientist or an Engineer. You can become a programmer without any degree by just working on projects and watching UA-cam.
In network engineering and Computer Security I mostly spend (and still spending) MOST of my time working on maths than coding and if someone followed this path from CS knows exactly what I'm saying ( yeah yeah, I know, Computer Security and Cybersecurity is more complex and they need good coding foundation but that's not my point here (: ). Finally, Cause you studying CS doesn't mean you will become a programmer (and TBH it's the least you have to deal with). By studying CS just cause you want to code without considering the other factors such as, engineering, maths etc. etc. then don't. It's better if you try some projects by your own and following some tutorials or taking some courses and build your own portfolio.
CS is not about coding, but about mathematics and then coding. Some fields require less maths while others require very good maths knowledge and if you want to go down that "CS path" you will tackle almost all of them without any reason once you want to become a programmer.
Studying CS is not about programmers only and if you want to follow CS to become a programmer it's a good idea but not the best (nowadays)~
5:00 only 5 min to grow back his beard.
whaytttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt
how do you even notice that lmfao
I so was just about to mention it! You said it best.
I was gonna say he had a tough day of coding but this is better
thanks so much for the first bit of this video, it was exactly what i needed to hear.
Bro, school is not as bad as you are describing. You work on problems in school too. I always recommend students make their own side projects too, especially at the beginning of the semester when things are slower
Why do you need to go off and build things yourself if you’re in school? Literally no other degree works like this.
No matter how many tutorials I watched, what helped me learn was making a small bullet hell game on a game engine (game maker for me)and when I got stuck I either watched videos or asked copilot :) ai is the future so use it to your advantage.
Thank you sir, I was in a infinite loop - it was time for me to decide my path instead jumping around.
Very good video. You are very relaxed and explain things clearly. 10/10
amazing video bro, thanks! I'm Designer that wants know the basics of programming to communicate better with my team of devs and of course, building some cool things
I think its the best video i watched about this topic.
Well explained, Very detailed ,great examples with a kept open mind.
Im definetely subscribing dude
thank you!
This is so spot on. When I got into computer hardware in the mid 90s I spent time learning and breaking things. Now, I am tutorial-driven and it is awful. I am going to start using man pages and learning C again. I am done with tutorials. Thanks, Forest!
I went the same path.
Now back coding C again, using man pages. Trying to use as few dependencies as possible. Stupid? Yes? But fun? Also yes!
I know this film is old and don't know If You will see my comment. I want to thank you. I lost my job my few days ago. Not only that, but I lost my self-confident, but this help me fetch drive again. It is really important for me because I'm struggling with depression and anxiety.
Thank you so much for this informative message.
I left the CS field for a few years, haven't seen a Forrest knight video in a long time. Came back to this video and suddenly Forrest's voice is way deeper than I remember. Epic style.
Sounds like great advice 👍🏻
Everything will be uninteresting in time. That’s it.
I like sometimes to coding, and it can be interesting.
But also it’s interesting for me, because I wanna get money in order to live better, and to my family live better.
Good general informational video for someone who wants to start or regain some important info. THX :)
I am all about the build-build-build. It’s a good way to learn, ideally it’s fun, and also it helps you figure out if you really want to do this. However, one gotcha if you intend on taking classes?
You’ll be more bored than you have ever been in your life with the first course or two. The first day was explaining the difference between integers and floating point and other very-basic basics. And my teacher doesn’t have a 2x speed button either.
At least in my case, if I want the certificate, I have to take the entry level course.
Hey, at least it isn’t typing; back in the 90s in high school, I had to take a half year of typing to get into the Turbo Pascal programming class, and I was already sitting a little above 100wpm by that point.
I got the micromanaging typing teacher too. I don’t use classic home row positioning, so we repeatedly had the “use home row” why? “It is faster” cool, show me? “I don’t type as fast as you” - Well yeah, I know, maybe that’s because you spend your time worrying about home row? 😂
Eve more fun, we both knew that home row positioning was like 10% of the grade, actual typing speed or showing an improvement would nail the other 90% and I nailed both. “Fun” times.
Im watching this video while listening to a song called 'You were bigger than life' by shook and it feels so fitting
Thanks a lot ForestKnight, your videos always helped me unravel the coding world. Keep it up!
Very good intro to the video! And exactly what I am currently trying to figure out - do I actually enjoy this?
As a 13 year old who genuinely wants to become a software developer, I find this video helpful!
Love ya man. Needed this video
Making more money doing something that I enjoy?! That's great to hear! Time to start 'not being productive and watching UA-cam shorts' company, can't wait for the $$$!
Hey! Quit making fun of me
I struggled with this for a long time. Enjoyed programming but didn't know how to make it in the industry
As a 13 year old who wants to become a programmer, I find this video helpful
I'm a 37-year-old old-timer already making a good salary in Digital Marketing & Data, which I also enjoy, but I like to build stuff so I've started to learn to code. I started with Javascript just because it's used in ad scripts. I want to learn to code in JavaScript to be able to write scripts for marketing automation and other stuff. Still, I also want to learn to make some games (and learn other languages more suited to building games), even though I don't even play computer games myself. Seriously, besides Heroes of Might and Magic 15 years ago, I've never really played games. But, they seem like a cool thing to try so why not. Also, apps interest me. The nice thing about not having monetary stress or career stress involved in it is I can do whatever the heck I find awesome.
Isn't the bit about money at the start a little.....gatekeep-ey?
What if you're not passionate about anything in particular? I keep getting contradictory information about this coming from all sort of YT programmers, because at the end of the day, it's just a job.
ForrestKnight YOU ROCK , THANK YOU ♥
I would like to develop something that is a real help to people. I want to solve world-changing problems. I want to break through the barriers that people have in their heads and are falsely convinced that they are worthless. The revolutionary fusion between hardware and software that shines like a beacon of hope for everyone in the dark. Programming fascinates me again and again but I can't get anywhere... There must be a way to get started...
Broo you just made my life so sorted with this just one video I am a graduate in ai&ds last month from India in wanted to come in tech I m so grateful founded this video while starting my journey thanks mate❤🎉
Thank you forever bro 🫶
I created a react native app cli where i want to connect BLE(BlueTooh Low Energy) devices using ble-manager npm. It was tedious for me just to setup, SDKs, right jdk , handle, and get to how things happens, but it was a nice experience for me get to know about the working of Bluetooth within app.
I've been "coding" for like 3 to 4 years but those 4 years have been in the tutorial hell, i cant seem do to something on my own i have to always go watch a video to understand how i write that specific thing that i want to do
Another way I have been learning to code is by having AI to explain code. And then ask it to give a quiz on what I just learned. By doing this I have learned to read code and write code. I've also had AI give me a 100 question test and then grade it and see where I need to work on more. Now I am a better programmer and I feel much better about what I read and write code. Sometimes I found myself forgetting something and having to go back and refresh. But by using this idea with AI, I have gotten much stronger in my coding.. I agree with you on getting your hands in something and just start writing code.. I just wanted to add this to your video. Test taking is another way to learn coding. Plus you can see where you need help if you get something wrong or something not working EX EX EX..
Try it and maybe you can make a video about it...
For the Job Fair thing, that actually wouldn't work for the college I went to. You had to sign in with your student ID in order to get into the Job Fair.
makes sense, the college want get their students to have the opportunity first.
if you love learning, nothing else matters!
Thanks for the advice.
A great video! And a great motivation!
We have the same thought on build it yourself and be creative not some already made copies
I’ve been working remote for many years for Bay Area tech companies, and they pay very well.
That´s great! I would like to know how did you decide what language to learn, I´m between python or java
I did a code bootcamp and came out hating web dev. 5 years later and today I am making a blog and learning Rust. I want to become one of the low level systems programmers I always envied. I do not care for the modern web app ecosystem.
One has to be stupid to think that being a software engineer will bring you fortune
Its just regular earnings you will make by doing 9-5
Lawyer and other professional makes way more than a soft Engineer with less work
What I think is the most under estimated problem in programming. Is the massive amount of problems, not related to the source code. Installing different packages, linking libraries, driver compatibilities, and the deep sea of command lines that you just are supposed to know (because there are not intuitive way to figure it out).
I always get stuck in my projects and never finish them ...
basically u're the jesus of programming LMAO, pretty important things I didn't think and know at all, good video man I'm in the half of the video btw, but pretty sure is a good one
I like computers and solving problems, but I spent most of my career putting Band-Aids on software cancers. There's a great market for keeping ancient, home-grown systems running. However, weeding through code built on horrible designs gets old. If I had it to do all over again, I'd be an actuary.
F*ck Bro!!. You are talking to my soul. You are like a code prophet. I really like what you said "BUILD A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS".
can't agree with you more, thanks for this video
As a lazy clever developer, I just wanna say "You good Sir, is a Genius."
Thank goodness you mentioned the whole reddit skew towards doom and gloom. Thought I was going crazy after checking a job site and then checking reddit. Complete different reality.
really good video. clear communication.
Problem solving. That's the crux. Programming is just a small subdomain of problem solving. And as a trainer, it's mostly where things go bad. Most people DON'T think the "right way". Fastest way to get some insight on people is to give them a small problem that doesn't require any special knowledge but requires them to think about it. "Potential developers" will show a certain type of thought process as they go from A to B. People with little to no potential will be either all over the place or plain stuck.
Thx Im looking to learn and become a programmer this video is really helpfull
I'm not sure I necessarily want to be a programmer, but I do want to be able to program and understand these technologies better for my own curiosity. If there ends up being money in that somehow, that's cool too.
jet brains gotta be the best, willing to pay over free IDEs
Chat bots and youtube tutorials are best for piecing the puzzle together. it's like learning to read before you learn to write. It's a terrible idea to learn how to program by typing aimlessly in the terminal expecting results.
Tutorial hell is following a video, screen switching, and copying while you have no idea of the fundementals. I'd compare it people repeating a forign language as they hear it and expecting to know the meaning if they repeat it more without the words ever being translated.
i stopped watching this type of video and i just started doing tutorials instead. i am far better than i ever though i I could get.
Oh, and by the way, I salute your mustache good sir!
happily/sadly I've already been a programmer for 20 years. If you don't love coding, don't do it it will be hard
glorious caterpillar above your lip my dude
appreciate it man.
im going to study graphic design,wanted to learn web dev to merge the two worlds,and with ai and all these stuff u give me motivation thank u
I love the part that one of his subreddits is The Vampire Diaries
1:23 that's a load of bull. I have a job that I enjoy doing, and yet the payment is garbage and doesn't guarantee a bright future. Then what do you choose?
thank you jesus christ, you gave me the motivation to learn programming.
I don’t have experience as an experienced programmer. Generally though, for learning new skills- this video is absolutely killer.
Also, I love your style, man.
You’ve got a really cool Mid-western dad vibe about you- it’s very disarming.
Keep up the awesome videos!
I'm from Brazil and I want to learn to program as quickly as possible so I can help Americans.
Great Video!!
You are like jesus of software engineers. With mustache... by the way thanks alot i think this experiences is the best thing at this career because its like the treasure and its so important ❤❤❤