We've already seen this with other intensively raised animals, especially with more intelligent mammals such as pigs--but also with chickens, and farmed fish aren't doing well, either.
Not self aware... You mistake them for Sentience. But like all animals, plants, humans etc... Lock them in a box. See what happens. Just saying... Designing Humanity was the easy part.
Self-conscious is more of an appropriate term for octopus instead of self-aware. But ye, i have a bad feeling about farming octopuses. The fact that they are very intelligent.
They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.
I hate seeing people catch and take them at the pier, one time this dude had 3 in a bucket and I was trying to convince him to put them back, he didn’t. But he turned around for about 1 minute, went to check on them, they all escaped and squeezed through a 1” crack in the pier. I was stoked and cheering for them lol.
When I watch videos of octopuses that recognize frequent divers, and how they latch on for rides or play games... I realize maybe we shouldn't farm them to eat. They're as smart as dogs, so eating one feels just as taboo to me.
If they found a way to extend the life of the octopus that's a scary thought one of the reasons why octopus intelligence hasn't gotten much bigger is because of their short lifespan. If you add more time to learn you increase the capacity for intelligence...
Kind of... Some trees can live longer than humans. Yet lack true intelligence. While some birds live shorter lives. Yet know better than humans, as far as intelligence (not sentience) goes.
Yeah.... eating Octopus and Pig feels weird. They're so.... cool. They have personalities and intelligence. It's not like chickens. Screw chickens. I eat chicken and yet would be okay with those little monsters going extinct..... .... Probably chickens are okay too.
Im not a vegan or an animal rights activist or w/e, hell i've eaten squids and octopus but theres something weirding me out about farming highly intelligent creatures for food consumption. Somehow it feels more "right" to catch them in the wild for some reason lol
I understand feeling like that but that would mean most animals humans interact with would be a nono. We may feel horrible about it but if it's useful and food we can't hesitate. It's the rule almost all animals on the planet by really, and we are one of those animals.
@@blackstar-genX totally agree, but i think for me it was the fact that because they're capable of highly complex thought process that made me feel like they suffer more, but on the same vein; just cause cattle and poultry aren't as intelligent does that make them fair game? We definitely have some degree of biases of where we draw the line of what we consume and what we dont and this definitely opened up my eyes to how things are being farmed. Like how am i comfortable with regular farm animals fit for slaughter, yet somehow farming intelligent creatures weirds me out? possibly cause I consider humans as intelligent beings and if another species specifically bred and farmed us. i'd be freaked out by it.
@@blackstar-genX I appreciate your point. We do live by different rules as highly intelligent animals in certain ways though. For many animals, eating or killing each other within their own species is normal. It is also nature's way to die from polio and bacterial infections but we change that. As humans we have the ability to comprehend our own consciousness and to empathize. We almost unilaterally live as societies in "unnatural" ways so to speak. So I think it's ok to also deviate from the "natural dog eat dog" way when it comes to choosing whether to farm highly intelligent animals on a mass scale. I think there's a difference between raising and eating shrimp vs highly intelligent animals with much greater capacity for suffering.
The farming method can be into question... But animals are animals. Respect the food and thank the Earth that you still exist. In other words... Humans are not God. Don't try to save all life when your very flesh is not the same as what God originally had in mind. Humans are animals. Not special... The cosmos knew this long ago.
Which is another reason I don't exactly want to eat them. The activists may ramble on about the horrors of farms in general, but octopuses have the potential to feel more pain than it's physically possible for any other animal to do.
Eating an alive animals as food is off putting. Cooking it or eating it raw (not alive) food is much better. All humans will join the worms in the end. I see no difference in the morality when humans are nothing special... ... ... The cosmos explains what I mean.
Supposedly, a local woman had an octopus which layed eggs and continued to live and thrive after they hatched. I hope buy one from her for my aquarium.
I've gone vegan and/or vegetarian numerous times because of the heart-wrenching conditions of most large-scale agricultural practices. I do the research, get sad, and give up meat, but it's usually a mighty struggle that falls apart after a couple of years because I inevitably crave/miss meat. However, after watching *My Teacher the Octopus* on Netflix, I knew from a deep-down place in myself that I would never eat an octopus again (a flavor I enjoy very much). It wasn't a choice/commitment as much as a realization that my octopus-eating days were over. Unlike giving up domesticated land animals, giving up octopus has never been a struggle. That documentary changed me...not in a huge way, but in a permanent way. For years now, whenever I've seen octopus on a menu, I've been transported back to the joy of that documentary, and the only regret I feel is for the octopuses that will be consumed that night. This is a creature whose curiosity & intelligence broke through my "meat-craving" wiring, and I am grateful for it.
Lies in the end... ... ... I can almost smell the facade. Because if that company was true, then why only them, a non scientific corporation, who suddenly "broke" the genetic code of octopi??? I do love such a game of deception. Especially when Evil can see through it.
@@simplekneipe2430 they’re still nowhere close to the intelligence of an octopus. I’ve lived on a farm. Cows are still very dun duh duh. Don’t get me wrong. All animals have a certain level of intelligence. An octopus is on a whole different level. They can beat you with your own arm and make you think it’s your fault. Yes there’s sarcasm there but it makes my point. Octopusses, Elephants, orcas, etc., exhibit very different capabilities.
These are sentient and very intelligent creatures. This is not 'farming', it's torture and murder. 'Breeding generations in captivity' is called slavery. This is beyond sad.🥺
They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.
I think the right ethical argument for domesticating animals whether it be for food or companionship, is the belief in mutualism. That captivity grants certain animals an edge against natural selection and allows that animal to breed plentifully and the possibility that that animal could live a bit more successfully than it would in the wild. Octopus are delicious, but they should remain wild catch. It's like how we understand tuna, salmon, and other blue water fish. Obviously as predatory top food chain animals, humans cannot provide a better environment.
Mandela effect, I always knew the plural of octopus as octopi. I also was taught growing up that the plural of fish is fish. I remember being in school and discussing the word “fishes” wasn’t a word. 🤯 Did this change or has it always been this way?
To be fair they have a decentralized nervous system and sentient muscles are a unique taste. I can imagine eating a live/squirming one is a surreal rush like a vampire or Wraith feeding on a live human, but that is way to guilty of a pleasure to be ethical at this scale. No hunger can justify this. Also I'm pretty sure forcing them to socialize is how they develop language, civilize, and get revenge on us one day.
Octopus has three accepted plural forms in English, octopuses (proper English plural), octopodes (the Greek loan word plural) and octopi (Which should really be octopii, the fake Latin plural because octopus is a Greek word and not a Latin one.) For some reason English speakers seem to prefer the last one.
Wait what now i'm British and i didn't even know we caught octopus. I'd assume that they would be imported for our British Asians and possibly served in some restaurants but i never knew we caught them domestically or should i say kept them.
This video is great, even if the context isn't. Keep up with these videos, and your style as a presentor. There are too many dry teachers. I hadn't realized people are once again trying to farm and raise yet another carnivore. This probably will not last.
Why, isn't there enough other stuff to eat! You got me I don't know what to say! I would not eat it! This is something I did not know about, thank you!
I am not a big fan of the Deep from the TV series "The Boys" but the scene in which he eats an octopus named Timothy while translating the begging for its life just made me cry. Watch documentaries like "Earthlings", "Dominion", "Pignorant" etc to see and hear the same begging in real life or just go to a slaughterhouse or fishing boat...!
Does this work the same way for squid? I love fried calamari but if I ever found out they were just as smart and as hard to farm, I would stop eating it.
okay, seriously -- with all the different animals and plants we already eat, do people *_REALLY_* have to add octopus to the menu? like, don't we have enough variety as it is? when will enough be enough?
Octopus is a delicacy in many parts of the world. It's also expensive because of the difficulty in catching them. This is nothing new. I definitely indulge when I can afford it.
@@quinnoshaughnessy Strive, yes... But that's extremely difficulty for Mankind. Strive for what you can. Not for what you cannot. But one day, all of Mankind must try together. More often than not, sadly. But this goes for everything that is. Not just for animals. Respect the food you've found. Treat the animal with respect. Such is a simple life. ... That's old wisdom from my better self compared to today. I can see how far behind Mankind is. But I'm not that person anymore. If the world must be saved, then I'm sure humanity doesn't need me. They can do it because they have to. (I put the World and all who call it home, before myself... ... ... Perhaps I still fight for this future. But my Regret will consume both the World and everyone.)
Octopus farmers would have to breed the food for their prey as well. It would be good to create a smaller ecosystem to give them an environment that is mostly self sustaining.
I used to love eating them when I was a kid but when I became aware of their intelligence (late teens) I stopped. Now I try to inform people how eating Octopus is like eating a crow, magpie, cat, dog or dolphin.
I don't think we should be eating octopi at all. The only thing holding them back from being a smart as we are is the unfortunate inability to pass knowledge from one generation to another, cuz mom and dad separate after mating and mom dies in the process of hatching her eggs. If we could break that cycle, we'd actually have a (realistically, many) civilization in the ocean.
Farming methods are debatable. Like the lies of that specific octopus farm. But you mortals amuse me... In the brink of Earth's end. I hope the human race will still exist without degradation. Otherwise, much like all Life on Earth. The Cosmos will not miss Humanity, nor shall I. Morality has no meaning to me. For Reality cares not of human opinions. Not even Time shall.
I can't help myself to just roll my eyes whenever they say this is a health food it is good for you, they have Supernatural healing properties... Why Asia.. Why
This was the best - well rounded, informative and entertaining documentary I have seen on octopuses. I love them so much, swimming or fried, that I want to get a tattoo of one crawling out of my shirt neck-line. I quit eating them for about two weeks after I'd watched several documentaries about how friendly and intelligent they are. Then logic kicked in and, considering the relish they have in eating each other, I decided it would be foolish to disrespect their own tradition.
It's a much better alternative than overfishing when done right. The fact of the matter is that as long as there are people, we will consume. If there aren't good alternatives to overfishing, which is usually done illegally when something is hard to get, people destroy populations of fish and ocean species. This also fights poaching and overfishing by putting more octopus on the market - lowering the price and hurting the profits, which takes incentives away for overfishing/poaching. In a perfect world, we wouldn't eat such cool creatures. But that's just not the world we live in :( So stuff like this is a good step in the right direction. (Also worth noting that the fisherman and poachers are just trying to survive. They get paid almost nothing compared to the restaurant or food plants that produce and package the product. It's a severe consequence of overpopulation and poverty. It's pretty much legal slavery and something we see in lots of industries... primarily tech and stuff like chocolate)
Humans can survive on plants. We can learn to grow food ourselves and other skills. I think this will help but we have caused so much damage toward animals it will be hard now to simply coexist.
This is quite instigating to me, it show me farming animals from the bottom of the food chain is less harmful to the environment due to presser on the environment from our food commands. But animals from the top of the food chains for example humans would require more from the environment putting a huge amount of press on the environment. Hmmm?
@@frlo7688Dude, self awareness is a VERY rare level of existence. Only a handful of animals have ever shown self awareness. Look up "mirror test" for animals. Learn something. Animals such as Orcas, African Gray Parrots, Orangutans, Silverback Gorillas, Dolphins... and i also agree, species such as the Giant Pacific Octopus. These are special species. I think what YOU meant is that all animals have a soul? In which case, i believenas long as they have a brain and the ability to feel emotions, then yes, I agree that they have the "spark" of life... an encapsulated energy that keeps us capable of generating the energy such complex systems require to exist, which is then released from us upon death. Then, just as out bodies are re-purposed, raw materials of existence being return to the earth. Whilst our energy, our spark, is also released, but in a much more "as it is, it always will be" kinda way. No longer limited to the known confines of human existence Or consciousness. So who knows,that energy has to go somewhere, perhaps another sentiment creature. Whatever the case... I take that as a good enough reason not to eat them.
They should move efforts to making fake octopus meat like crab meat, it clearly so fair doesn’t work farming them and its just unnecessary and looks very unethical. Personally im biased for the octopuses i have never eaten one before and i think they’re adorable all of them but even I wasn’t biased for them this is still morally wrong. Also these farmed octopuses wont probably taste good because it’s diet will be radically different from what it would eat in the wild or so i think, im sure i heard if what something eats is how it tastes.
You think they are not already doing that to humans already. You didn’t learn anything from the past few years. History has shown us from the Tuskegee experiment's and WW2.
There is one potential, and strange side effect from these farms. Octopus intelligence is not just for opening complex boxes or solving labyrinths. There is a theory about octopuses that, they could be capable of building their own civilization if they could transfer information to the new generations and formed colonies. In wilds, octopuses are extremely violent towards one another. One of the reasons why females choose to go away from eggs before they hatch. In captivity however, you essentially create an octopus environment where they can form colonies and get along with each other. With generations of raising and shaping their behaviours, we might get a chance to test this theory. I wonder, will this farm grow octopuses that start to make their own complex tools and such?...
Dolphins: "Most people stopped eating us cause we're smart."
Octopus: "cool story bro...."
They become aggressive and self-harm and eat each other because they are self-aware and this is torture.
We've already seen this with other intensively raised animals, especially with more intelligent mammals such as pigs--but also with chickens, and farmed fish aren't doing well, either.
Not self aware... You mistake them for Sentience.
But like all animals, plants, humans etc... Lock them in a box. See what happens.
Just saying... Designing Humanity was the easy part.
Self-conscious is more of an appropriate term for octopus instead of self-aware.
But ye, i have a bad feeling about farming octopuses. The fact that they are very intelligent.
They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.
@@MyRx777z Indeed they are.
I hate seeing people catch and take them at the pier, one time this dude had 3 in a bucket and I was trying to convince him to put them back, he didn’t. But he turned around for about 1 minute, went to check on them, they all escaped and squeezed through a 1” crack in the pier. I was stoked and cheering for them lol.
As long as they can push their beak through, they can get through any crack.
omg lol theyre so smart im happy for them
@@InterestingMC it’s sad that such a beautiful creature has such a short lifespan unfortunately 🥲
@@ShorelineC yeah it is very sad, they are very complex and interesting creatures but they don't want to live after laying eggs
I hope you never eat any animal then. So bias, Leave fisherman alone.
When I watch videos of octopuses that recognize frequent divers, and how they latch on for rides or play games... I realize maybe we shouldn't farm them to eat. They're as smart as dogs, so eating one feels just as taboo to me.
I'm sorry, but this just seems wrong somehow. They're just way too intelligent to raise them without cruelty.
Yup
Pigs are also known to be very smart.
Yeah, we didn't choose meat animals based on low intelligence.
Even chickens can show something that looks suspiciously like grief.
@@CreticusSome people do. I don't really like most seafood or a lot of meats, but even if I did, I don't know if I could eat octopus or pigs.
I agre, they are very intelligent. Let them swim in the ocean. Stop this BS
If they found a way to extend the life of the octopus that's a scary thought one of the reasons why octopus intelligence hasn't gotten much bigger is because of their short lifespan. If you add more time to learn you increase the capacity for intelligence...
Very observant
I can see an octopus rolling up next time I call an Uber, talking about he is a UA-cam star, and ask me if I seen this video
This is how we get mind flayers.
Kind of... Some trees can live longer than humans. Yet lack true intelligence.
While some birds live shorter lives. Yet know better than humans, as far as intelligence (not sentience) goes.
DO NOT give octopi longer lifespans or make them social!
I can think of nothing scarier.
When a female octopus lays eggs she dies after they hatch. She gives her life to make sure nothing eats her babies.
And genetically too, that octopus decay after mating... Nature do be like that.
And it takes them like 8 years or something. They are amazing. And not food.
She actually spends all that time oxygenating the eggs. Sorta like a brooding hen, except they sit longer
I don’t eat them. They are too smart for me to do it. They are too interesting.
Me too
It's okay, that leaves more for me .
@@GuilhermeSilva-xk1vu Sorry, but you can't escape cannibal interest this way. You will still be eaten if they catch you like the rest of us.
Yeah.... eating Octopus and Pig feels weird. They're so.... cool. They have personalities and intelligence.
It's not like chickens. Screw chickens. I eat chicken and yet would be okay with those little monsters going extinct.....
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Probably chickens are okay too.
Any predator is ..
Im not a vegan or an animal rights activist or w/e, hell i've eaten squids and octopus but theres something weirding me out about farming highly intelligent creatures for food consumption. Somehow it feels more "right" to catch them in the wild for some reason lol
Yes exactly, at least they aren't tortured if you catch them in the wild.
I understand feeling like that but that would mean most animals humans interact with would be a nono.
We may feel horrible about it but if it's useful and food we can't hesitate.
It's the rule almost all animals on the planet by really, and we are one of those animals.
@@blackstar-genX totally agree, but i think for me it was the fact that because they're capable of highly complex thought process that made me feel like they suffer more, but on the same vein; just cause cattle and poultry aren't as intelligent does that make them fair game? We definitely have some degree of biases of where we draw the line of what we consume and what we dont and this definitely opened up my eyes to how things are being farmed. Like how am i comfortable with regular farm animals fit for slaughter, yet somehow farming intelligent creatures weirds me out? possibly cause I consider humans as intelligent beings and if another species specifically bred and farmed us. i'd be freaked out by it.
@@blackstar-genX I appreciate your point. We do live by different rules as highly intelligent animals in certain ways though. For many animals, eating or killing each other within their own species is normal.
It is also nature's way to die from polio and bacterial infections but we change that.
As humans we have the ability to comprehend our own consciousness and to empathize. We almost unilaterally live as societies in "unnatural" ways so to speak.
So I think it's ok to also deviate from the "natural dog eat dog" way when it comes to choosing whether to farm highly intelligent animals on a mass scale. I think there's a difference between raising and eating shrimp vs highly intelligent animals with much greater capacity for suffering.
The farming method can be into question...
But animals are animals. Respect the food and thank the Earth that you still exist.
In other words... Humans are not God. Don't try to save all life when your very flesh is not the same as what God originally had in mind.
Humans are animals. Not special... The cosmos knew this long ago.
arm continues to move because each arm has its own brain and seperate nervous system
Which is another reason I don't exactly want to eat them.
The activists may ramble on about the horrors of farms in general, but octopuses have the potential to feel more pain than it's physically possible for any other animal to do.
What if octopuses have a human farm, and they’re running into the same issues.
We can wish
Do you feel better now…
If you can imagine it, it exist in a Parallel universe gg
"damn, this human meat life cycle is longer than my lifespan" xd
THIS!
They are fun to play with. Much smarter than cats. I had octopus friends in the south pacific Samoa to be specific.
Ive eaten them before... but stopped after learning about them. Its insane just how smart these things are.
Always producing interesting and informative videos
Thank You keep up the great work
in my opinion eating octopi is very cruel (especially If their alive)
Eating an alive animals as food is off putting.
Cooking it or eating it raw (not alive) food is much better.
All humans will join the worms in the end. I see no difference in the morality when humans are nothing special... ... ... The cosmos explains what I mean.
well i respect that but for my opinion it not
Cooked or raw (sashimi) is better than alive.
@@cheemslord9917So you Just Love the animal cruelty what a nice trait to have
This channel won't never get old because this channel teaches us some pretty cool things
octopus are too inteligent to be treated as food and typically too high up the food chain to actually be viable
Supposedly, a local woman had an octopus which layed eggs and continued to live and thrive after they hatched. I hope buy one from her for my aquarium.
I've gone vegan and/or vegetarian numerous times because of the heart-wrenching conditions of most large-scale agricultural practices. I do the research, get sad, and give up meat, but it's usually a mighty struggle that falls apart after a couple of years because I inevitably crave/miss meat. However, after watching *My Teacher the Octopus* on Netflix, I knew from a deep-down place in myself that I would never eat an octopus again (a flavor I enjoy very much). It wasn't a choice/commitment as much as a realization that my octopus-eating days were over. Unlike giving up domesticated land animals, giving up octopus has never been a struggle. That documentary changed me...not in a huge way, but in a permanent way. For years now, whenever I've seen octopus on a menu, I've been transported back to the joy of that documentary, and the only regret I feel is for the octopuses that will be consumed that night. This is a creature whose curiosity & intelligence broke through my "meat-craving" wiring, and I am grateful for it.
Imagine that octopuses in the future will develop a plan and destroy humanity using the same methods 😱
🎯
@@dalhousiekid I'll remember this just in case I see a steak hovering in the air or see a cool hidey-hole on the beach.
And we'd deserve it, too.
@@SnotRockets55What do you mean? Not all people are evil. That's like saying all dogs bite people, or all sharks try to kill people.
They already make a documentary about this, the genre is called tentacle hentai
7:34 "their natual habitat is in the wild"
me too bro
They genetically modified these octopus in order to farm them.
Lies in the end... ... ... I can almost smell the facade.
Because if that company was true, then why only them, a non scientific corporation, who suddenly "broke" the genetic code of octopi???
I do love such a game of deception. Especially when Evil can see through it.
I can fix it. Leave them alone. No I’m not a vegan or animal activist. They’re too intelligent to be held captive, just like elephants.
same!
Cows are as smart as a 4-5 year old if not smarter, can WE Farm 1-3 year olds?
@@simplekneipe2430 they’re still nowhere close to the intelligence of an octopus. I’ve lived on a farm. Cows are still very dun duh duh. Don’t get me wrong. All animals have a certain level of intelligence. An octopus is on a whole different level. They can beat you with your own arm and make you think it’s your fault. Yes there’s sarcasm there but it makes my point. Octopusses, Elephants, orcas, etc., exhibit very different capabilities.
"No I’m not a vegan or animal activist."
Would that make your opinion less valuable?
@@phillip0908 no, I just wanted to stop the “you people” comments before it started, lol
These are sentient and very intelligent creatures. This is not 'farming', it's torture and murder.
'Breeding generations in captivity' is called slavery.
This is beyond sad.🥺
Yea, same as other animal agriculture
WATOP as usual makes my day more interesting
keep talking about the intelligence when we eat pork every day, and they're crazy smart
human is weird
They also tend to trust people, this is horrific, monstrous abuse, cruelty,betrayal. People please find pétitions urgently on change and promote boycotts of any and all consumption of these precious créatures.
I wish people would stop eating these amazing creatures. We eat enough animals already.
Thanks for the info, I think I'm gonna do that 24/7 now.
I think the right ethical argument for domesticating animals whether it be for food or companionship, is the belief in mutualism. That captivity grants certain animals an edge against natural selection and allows that animal to breed plentifully and the possibility that that animal could live a bit more successfully than it would in the wild. Octopus are delicious, but they should remain wild catch. It's like how we understand tuna, salmon, and other blue water fish. Obviously as predatory top food chain animals, humans cannot provide a better environment.
This feels like the plot of some sort of horror movie
All because stinky rich people decided they wanted to eat octopus.
The recent popularity of Takoyaki has greatly worsened this issue imo
The CGI budget has doubled🤣
0:28 that back ground sound will forever remind me of Top notch idiots 😂😂😂😂
Mandela effect, I always knew the plural of octopus as octopi. I also was taught growing up that the plural of fish is fish. I remember being in school and discussing the word “fishes” wasn’t a word. 🤯
Did this change or has it always been this way?
We also said school instead of shoal. No Mandela affect. We just learned how to speak and pronounce things properly.
The plural of octopus is either octopuses, octopodes or octopi. They are all accepted.
What the music you have in the background at the start? Relaxing.
Do you want an interspecies war? Cause this is how you get an interspecies war.
I wonder if a farm would work if they find a way to make a octopus video game. Some form of entertainment in a small space.
Anyone see the short about the cutest baby cow that answers its owners whistle, comes running and takes a bottle? Yeah. Vegan anyone?
To be fair they have a decentralized nervous system and sentient muscles are a unique taste. I can imagine eating a live/squirming one is a surreal rush like a vampire or Wraith feeding on a live human, but that is way to guilty of a pleasure to be ethical at this scale. No hunger can justify this. Also I'm pretty sure forcing them to socialize is how they develop language, civilize, and get revenge on us one day.
Where are all the Karen’s telling us it’s Octopi!? lol 🐙
I think you mean ichthyologists. I don't think Karen's know that. ;)
@@greenalien5509 indeed and thanks for the new word 🤪
That these horrific torture and murder practices overshadow any grammar issues should tell us something.
Octopus has three accepted plural forms in English, octopuses (proper English plural), octopodes (the Greek loan word plural) and octopi (Which should really be octopii, the fake Latin plural because octopus is a Greek word and not a Latin one.)
For some reason English speakers seem to prefer the last one.
Seems to me like an animal that needs to be left alone.
Wait what now i'm British and i didn't even know we caught octopus. I'd assume that they would be imported for our British Asians and possibly served in some restaurants but i never knew we caught them domestically or should i say kept them.
With our luck, with so many octopuses together, they'll figure out how to summon Chthulu
I think octopuses are just wayyy too smart for us to be doing this to them.
This video is great, even if the context isn't. Keep up with these videos, and your style as a presentor. There are too many dry teachers. I hadn't realized people are once again trying to farm and raise yet another carnivore. This probably will not last.
Why, isn't there enough other stuff to eat! You got me I don't know what to say! I would not eat it! This is something I did not know about, thank you!
I love octopus
So, for food they want to cage the best escape artists?
In Malindi, Kenya, local women have a place on a shallow beach in the Indian ocean where they cultivate
"Resulting in a slow, painful death which has been scientifically confirmed."
.... Did a scientist freeze an octopus just to watch it die?
I am not a big fan of the Deep from the TV series "The Boys" but the scene in which he eats an octopus named Timothy while translating the begging for its life just made me cry.
Watch documentaries like "Earthlings", "Dominion", "Pignorant" etc to see and hear the same begging in real life or just go to a slaughterhouse or fishing boat...!
Does this work the same way for squid? I love fried calamari but if I ever found out they were just as smart and as hard to farm, I would stop eating it.
I don't know if we have a good sense of squid intelligence, but I know they're difficult to farm.
They are (on average) as smart and they are not easy to farm. They feel emotion and pain. Even delicious, it is not right to eat them.
okay, seriously -- with all the different animals and plants we already eat, do people *_REALLY_* have to add octopus to the menu? like, don't we have enough variety as it is? when will enough be enough?
Octopus is a delicacy in many parts of the world. It's also expensive because of the difficulty in catching them. This is nothing new. I definitely indulge when I can afford it.
Octopus tastes good but I'd rather they be caught in the wild than be tortured like this in captivity.
Amusing... Given the end of Earth outside of human control.
Well... Farming is debatable.
But all things come an end upon the Red Sun.
@@absolstoryoffiction6615 but until then, should we not strive to do better?
@@quinnoshaughnessy
Strive, yes... But that's extremely difficulty for Mankind.
Strive for what you can. Not for what you cannot. But one day, all of Mankind must try together. More often than not, sadly.
But this goes for everything that is. Not just for animals.
Respect the food you've found. Treat the animal with respect. Such is a simple life.
... That's old wisdom from my better self compared to today. I can see how far behind Mankind is. But I'm not that person anymore. If the world must be saved, then I'm sure humanity doesn't need me. They can do it because they have to.
(I put the World and all who call it home, before myself... ... ... Perhaps I still fight for this future. But my Regret will consume both the World and everyone.)
Determination could be a great quality to have but you need the intelligence to know when to give it up. This is one of those instances.
Octopus farmers would have to breed the food for their prey as well. It would be good to create a smaller ecosystem to give them an environment that is mostly self sustaining.
I used to love eating them when I was a kid but when I became aware of their intelligence (late teens) I stopped. Now I try to inform people how eating Octopus is like eating a crow, magpie, cat, dog or dolphin.
The battlefield is in your mind. They taste delicious.
@@rosemarietolentino3218 😮💨 I know...
Or pigs and cows, pigs are even smarter than dogs.
I don't think we should be eating octopi at all. The only thing holding them back from being a smart as we are is the unfortunate inability to pass knowledge from one generation to another, cuz mom and dad separate after mating and mom dies in the process of hatching her eggs. If we could break that cycle, we'd actually have a (realistically, many) civilization in the ocean.
Fishing using bleach is so laughable, what money makes people do is hilarious
Why do we keep opening Pandora's Box 🤨🤨🤨
Such an amazing animal! They are what I would picture an alien from another planet to look like.
I would never eat a octopus and growing them are not ok.
This is how the evolve ..shapeshift into people after becoming social and take over
It's like that spaghetti episode of rick and morty 😂
I don't think u should farm animals that are smarter than most people it's sad for the octopus
Farming methods are debatable. Like the lies of that specific octopus farm.
But you mortals amuse me... In the brink of Earth's end. I hope the human race will still exist without degradation. Otherwise, much like all Life on Earth. The Cosmos will not miss Humanity, nor shall I.
Morality has no meaning to me. For Reality cares not of human opinions. Not even Time shall.
1% are doing it to humans now why not animals.
"I don't think u should farm animals"
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Very sad. They're so smart and deserve much better.
Ethics go right out the window when profit is involved...
Birth of the mindflayer
they are already gonna finish their first nautiloid when we successfully breed octopuses
This is absolutely horrible, they are geniuses. Please put an end to this non sense
I can't help myself to just roll my eyes whenever they say this is a health food it is good for you, they have Supernatural healing properties... Why Asia.. Why
They taste delicious❤
I have a feeling they'd farm humans if it wasn't illegal
Bro it was done in the past
Slavery 😢
I’m Portuguese and love sea food including octopus, but saying that leave them alone and work for your catch’s no need to destroy them
scary if they develop super intelligence
This was the best - well rounded, informative and entertaining documentary I have seen on octopuses. I love them so much, swimming or fried, that I want to get a tattoo of one crawling out of my shirt neck-line.
I quit eating them for about two weeks after I'd watched several documentaries about how friendly and intelligent they are.
Then logic kicked in and, considering the relish they have in eating each other, I decided it would be foolish to disrespect their own tradition.
This is how sci-fi horror movies begin...
Why you ask? because they are smart, really frikkin smart
They’re too intelligent, I can’t eat ‘em
The most important thing is that they keep trying and will continue to grow them for meat, what a cruel world
It's a much better alternative than overfishing when done right. The fact of the matter is that as long as there are people, we will consume. If there aren't good alternatives to overfishing, which is usually done illegally when something is hard to get, people destroy populations of fish and ocean species. This also fights poaching and overfishing by putting more octopus on the market - lowering the price and hurting the profits, which takes incentives away for overfishing/poaching.
In a perfect world, we wouldn't eat such cool creatures. But that's just not the world we live in :( So stuff like this is a good step in the right direction.
(Also worth noting that the fisherman and poachers are just trying to survive. They get paid almost nothing compared to the restaurant or food plants that produce and package the product. It's a severe consequence of overpopulation and poverty. It's pretty much legal slavery and something we see in lots of industries... primarily tech and stuff like chocolate)
An overpopulated world
Humans can survive on plants. We can learn to grow food ourselves and other skills. I think this will help but we have caused so much damage toward animals it will be hard now to simply coexist.
@@timsmith7242 consumerism and overpopulation will be the death of this planet. Nothing about how the world runs right now is actually sustainable.
Survival of the fittest, the world isn't all white and pink 😅 nature is cruel af
spider for silk have similar problem.
To be honest, I dont give a damn how smart they are. What is important is how they are treated when farmed.
not all generalists are easy to cultivate
I've had octopus. But I really want one as a pet buddy
This is quite instigating to me, it show me farming animals from the bottom of the food chain is less harmful to the environment due to presser on the environment from our food commands.
But animals from the top of the food chains for example humans would require more from the environment putting a huge amount of press on the environment.
Hmmm?
Octopuses are a very interesting animal would be cool to fit one with a small cam to see what it does in wild... have a good day everyone.
I think octopus are sentient. At least super intelligent. They can use tools. I wont eat them.
All animals are sentient ... 🤦🏻♂️
@@frlo7688 No they are not but thanks for playing!
@@frlo7688Dude, self awareness is a VERY rare level of existence. Only a handful of animals have ever shown self awareness. Look up "mirror test" for animals. Learn something. Animals such as Orcas, African Gray Parrots, Orangutans, Silverback Gorillas, Dolphins... and i also agree, species such as the Giant Pacific Octopus. These are special species.
I think what YOU meant is that all animals have a soul? In which case, i believenas long as they have a brain and the ability to feel emotions, then yes, I agree that they have the "spark" of life... an encapsulated energy that keeps us capable of generating the energy such complex systems require to exist, which is then released from us upon death. Then, just as out bodies are re-purposed, raw materials of existence being return to the earth.
Whilst our energy, our spark, is also released, but in a much more "as it is, it always will be" kinda way. No longer limited to the known confines of human existence Or consciousness. So who knows,that energy has to go somewhere, perhaps another sentiment creature. Whatever the case... I take that as a good enough reason not to eat them.
This is creepy. I hate it, thanks.
Seriously tho, thx for informing on this, more people need to know.
It's like keeping bird in cages!😢
I've eaten octopus a few times. I like it. But it's not an animal that should be farmed.
Isnt there enough to eat? We have to eat these precious intelligent ocean creatures....😢
I will never eat an octopus!! They clearly think and have feelings and can communicate!!
Cheese
They should move efforts to making fake octopus meat like crab meat, it clearly so fair doesn’t work farming them and its just unnecessary and looks very unethical.
Personally im biased for the octopuses i have never eaten one before and i think they’re adorable all of them but even I wasn’t biased for them this is still morally wrong.
Also these farmed octopuses wont probably taste good because it’s diet will be radically different from what it would eat in the wild or so i think, im sure i heard if what something eats is how it tastes.
If they start farming octopus 🐙 I would never eat it
You ever had em grilled with butter and spices
Sure, let's catch and mess with octopus DNA. Who knows, we might see kraken in our lifetime, or perhaps few hundred years later.
You think they are not already doing that to humans already. You didn’t learn anything from the past few years. History has shown us from the Tuskegee experiment's and WW2.
Even before getting into this video, I can tell a huge reason this is stupid is cause they're just too smart
There is one potential, and strange side effect from these farms.
Octopus intelligence is not just for opening complex boxes or solving labyrinths. There is a theory about octopuses that, they could be capable of building their own civilization if they could transfer information to the new generations and formed colonies.
In wilds, octopuses are extremely violent towards one another. One of the reasons why females choose to go away from eggs before they hatch.
In captivity however, you essentially create an octopus environment where they can form colonies and get along with each other. With generations of raising and shaping their behaviours, we might get a chance to test this theory.
I wonder, will this farm grow octopuses that start to make their own complex tools and such?...
Damn I keep finding new ways to be disappointed