We launched 14 gravity loaded Buffs MITO on Guam during Busy Coconut 88 with no red balls. All came back clean. Quite a task but sent a message to the bean counters the B-52 was and still is a viable war-time asset.
Hello Paul I was stationed at Guam for a while in 74 or 75. I use to really enjoy watching the 52, tankers and fighters leave their. On their way back home. That runway from the terminal end has a very distinctive dip in it. And from my security post. At that end you could watch the. SAC planes almost disappear before they would get enough speed to get into the air. Do you remember the alert area a little further up? One night we had a aircraft call a inflight emergency. Said that he had a fire. The poor guy got confused on where they were directing him to. And got a little to close!! I don’t think that I have ever seen that many flashing lights or heard sirens like that again anywhere. Any time I got called into the bosses office. I thought of that poor pilot. And it didn’t seem so bad.
Those were about 15-second MITOs. When we went to 12-second, that's when it got really fun. You can barely see the BUFF (and runway) right in front of you through his exhaust, and just hope to God you don't hear an abort call from someone. Inevitably after take off, you get into a little of his wake turbulence as you make your way to your own assigned heading, and for a second for two, the plane just does it's own thing before you regain control. What a blast.
The Dash One manual mentioned a "25 mile noise footprint." My parents were once visiting, I instructed the wife to stand with them off the end of Carswell's south runway. We delayed rotation on a Wet thrust takeoff, treated them to noise that they could feel in their bones. It was the highlight of their visit!
You can't appreciate this until you actually see it in the real. 28th BW, Ellsworth AFB SD August 1976 to December 1979. Ellsworth AFB had 30 B-52H models and I watched as 15 of them were generated during an ORI
When it was cold enough, they didn't use water injection - the temperature differential was enough to provide the needed thrust - and the water tanks were dumped to prevent freezing in the aircraft. As it warmed up, they needed to have their water tanks filled again. So, at certain times of the year in your average northern tier SAC base, the tanks were dumped nearly every night and there would be a moderately organized scramble in the morning to get the alert force topped off again. That was my job - POL not only handled jet fuels, but also the demineralized water. This wasn't any water that you could drink - it was rife with acids that broke down any minerals that might clog the inlet nozzles. And it had to be delivered heated. Many a mid-shift hour was spent in the pre-dawn, pulling the water trucks out of the barn, parking them in a circle, and setting them to recirculate water through their heaters, occasionally going up top to drop a thermometer down the man hatch. The area was always permeated by an oily mildew smell that I will never forget. That was a long couple of hours.
As cool as this is as a dependent living at Ellsworth and March Air Force Base when I saw this knowing my father was flying one of these I would literally pray it was an exercise. Us cold war brats had nightmares knowing this is how the end would begin. And if it happened near noon when the 12 o clock siren would blare I would break out in a cold sweat. Thank God for the Men & Women of the Strategic Air Command who made Damn sure it didn't happen. Freedom Ain't Free!
@@mateostaplez7497 Grew up on SAC bases from 55 to 64. My dad didn't fly at that point but was a nuclear weapons officer. Many of my friends dads were B-52 pilots or crew. We all knew as young kids that if it was a real war that we were all toast.
That water injection system REALLY produces some serious noise. 1979 I was at Duluth IAP just arrived there and waiting for permenant housing. KC-135's would come to Duluth from the nearby SAC bases (At that time it was Strategic Air Command) to shoot touch and go's. So for over an hour you could hear the tanker approaching and just wait for that moment when the throttled up and those old water injected engines would rattle every window on the small base. It took about 3-5 minutes for them to do that loop and return and you just knew it was coming and there was nothing you could do. This would be happening between about 6:00PM and 9:00 PM On of those sounds you can never forget along with the screech of the F-104, and the lawnmower sound of the C-5
As a young boy living near Carswell AFB (Early 1970's, Fort Worth TX) I didn't know why the B-52s took off so close together, I just knew it happened quite a bit. All us kids knew if that day ever arrived, the war wouldn't last long. Carswell to the west, the Dallas Naval Air Station to the east. Defense plants for General Dynamics, Bell Helicopter, and LTV, all had to be prime targets Soviet ICBMs.
Encountered many MITO's during my assignment to Fairchild AFB Washington. I was in the alarm tower of the alert area 50 feet up, had a commanding view as the aircraft headed to the opposite direction taking off. Most always the aircraft started at the 23 end of the runway near the alert area as to not pose a risk to the alert B-52's on the Christmas Tree.
Spent my first years of life 5 miles from Rickenbacker AFB in Ohio. I was introduced to the thunderous sound of J57 powered KC135s at a very young age!
Matt McGowan the B-52G has. FAN Jet Engines! They take off at 65% throttle the earlier engines were straight jet engines and used water injection to augment thrust and screamed until the water was used up!
I live about 5 miles south directly under barksdale AFB. I have seen crazy stuff over the years. You can always tell when something is up because the b-52s will be flying all night. It have seen MITO once.... Scared the shit out of me. They fly over the ranch at ~500-2000 ft. They have rattled the windows on the house before when really going hard.
I loved the sweet chorus of eight J-57's. I think they always used water injection flying out of Kadena AB Okinawa in the 1960s. I was always impressed by the MITO launches of tall tail B-52Ds and KC-135As headed "down south". The later fan jets just don't sing like the J-57.
'The Best Years of Our Life' - kinda - Altus AFB, OK, the 11th Air Refueling Squadron, KC-135 and 307 Strategic Bomb Wing, B-52D, U-Tapao AFLD, Thailand. Both used the J-57 (with water) and both left a love in your soul. The only thing I ever experienced with more sound and shake was the U-2. Sweet memories.
@@heribertawells9297 - I was there in 1970. Started in Altus with KC-135's (jet engine 43250), went to U-Tapao with B-52's, and back to Altus. The first orders they cut for me out of U-Tapao were to March AFB with a MAC group and then said no - once SAC always SAC - back to Altus. Arthur
The world was a safer place with those J57’s flying above. The sight, sound and smell of those engines with water injection….one of the greatest sights in aviation!
Thanks propliner1955, I have since looked further into these old engines and learned alot including water injection. Very interesting how more power was achieved.
@@RemoVegas I just can't! It says: Type: text_plain (hopefully I am writing it right). I have more than 300 pure aviation videos saved in my PC, plus a lot in my cellphone (UA-cam Go). I already had this video in my UA-cam Go, but, one day, the video was deleted and the app said: The owner of this video doesn't allow the download (something like that).
I watched this while on a fuel stop sitting on an inactive runway at Andersen loaded for bear! 5 minutes after the last one left then 10 came back clean! 2 days later after an RON at Clark field, PI I felt and heard them drop their ordnance!
The J57 had a completely different sound when using water injection. With the water on, the engines were just this big, massive roar. Without water, you could actually hear the high pitched whine/whistle the engines made as the aircraft approached. Compare the G models in this video to hear the difference: ua-cam.com/video/P76fEoUOjsU/v-deo.html Though I know the TF-33 engines that came on the H model were a big improvement in terms of thrust and fuel efficiency, there was always something about the J57 equipped B-52s that I preferred. I'm probably just one of those rare nut cases, but I like my aircraft LOUD. Those old G models were certainly loud. You could hear the rumble continue for what seemed like 5 minutes after one passed overhead.
Some of my best years was while in the USAF, first assignment was Helenikon AB Greece then onto Carswell AFB (Ft.Worth) a SAC base. Common saying "SAC sucks but a suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!" Lyle / Tulsa
It looks bloody great and I wish I was there to see it live but after the first aircraft takes off its a wonder the rest of them can see where they are going with the amount of smoke ejected.
The J-57 is no longer used because it sucks up a lot of fuel like crazy and even the last of the 707 jets have been refitted with newer technology engines on them.
Nothing like the sounds and sights of J57's at full throttle with water injection system being used to add thrust. Spent many hours on both the B52G and KC135A aircraft. Too bad they are deemed obsolete now days. They both were great flying a and very capable aircraft.
There is a movie about the B-52 which has the late rod taylor and rock Hudson in it. It was made in the year of 1957 and is a true classic. It hasthis nearly the same scene in the film bombers b-52.
That would be "A Gathering of Eagles" from 1962, yes, great film!! "Bombers B-52" was indeed 1957, and starred Karl Malden, Natalie Wood and Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.
The classic film to which you refer was story of the 93rd Bombardment Wing; stationed at Castle AFB, California; near my hometown ( Merced ), the base where my dad finished his T.O.D. Castle was ALSO the FIRST installation to receive and operate the Boeing KC-135; also in March of 1957 ( just a little factoid for you trivia geeks! ).
*Just an additional footnote: The film in reference pertains to the storied 93rd Bomber Wing; who became famous for being the FIRST squadron to SUCCESSFULLY fly around the world NON-STOP. This feat was only remarkable at that time in that it was done WITHOUT the aide of the faster, higher-flying KC-135; which had not yet come into service. Instead, the B-52 crews had to rely on the slower, lower-flying, piston-engined "old clunker" for refueling, the KC-97.
That would be "A Gathering Of Eagles" that Rock Hudson and Rod Taylor starred in. "Bombers B-52" has Ephram Zimbalist Jr. in it and, of course, one should not miss that Grand Daddy of them all (even though it's B-36s and B-47s) "Strategic Air Command" starring James Maitland "Jimmy" Stewart.
All of these J-57 engines are gone and so are many of these B-52's except the H models we have today as for the tankers they still use the KC-135 jets still to this day.
This must be from the early 1980s since the BUFFs are G models. Nothing makes as much smoke as a J57 using water injection takeoff power. My wife grew up near a SAC base in the 1960s (her dad did maintenance on B-52s), and she told me when they did a rapid alert wing scramble, the noise was so overpowering that she crouched down under the kitchen table.
A squadron of Buffs and KC's creates its own weather system. I think it got darker as the smoke blotted out the sun! That's a lotta coal burnin' goin' on. LOVE it. Go, USAF/USAFR/USANG!!
The human eardrum ruptures at 170 decibels. According to Mark Hasara's book Tanker Pilot, a takeoff in one of the KC-135A "Water Wagon" aircraft with the water injection on was around 165 decibels.
The J 57 engines were first used on the old 707 jet airliners and believe it or not the KC 135 stratotankers are the old 707 jet airliners but thanks to todays technological advancements the new jets are much better and quieter now.
Not really... Both the KC-135 and the 707 were based on the 367-80 prototype, but no 707 was ever converted to a KC-135. Proving this knowing they are in service since the 1950s or 1960s
When they did the MITO, the 1st launch was straight away, the 2nd usually to the rt., the 3rd to the lt, then repeat. If you see one, you'll notice the later planes require more runway.
Incorrect, Sir John! (partially, that is) No series of B-52 has ever had any engine upgrades/replacements. What you perceive as upgraded engines is actually the remaining 70 or so B-52Hs which were manufactured with Pratt & Whitney TF-33 engines which they retain to this day. All SAC B-52Gs (J-57s with water injection, featured in this video) were retired in the mid to late '90s with their owning bases closed. Barksdale and Minot are the only remaining B-52 Home Bases)
We didn't mito with our iron bomb load outa Guam slated for targets in Vietnam in our G's. In all the missions as copilot I flew outa Guam, we never had flying speed even with water injection, by the end of the runway because the center of the runway was lower than each end. The airspeed indicator would stop increasing after the midpoint. So the pilot and I would pull the yoke back to 'yank' our buff off the runway then count to five and push the nose over to gain flying speed as we descended toward the ocean pulling up the gear and flaps, waiting for the water to run out after 90 seconds. The gear came up quick, then while the flaps were coming up, the water would run out about the time we had flying speed. Then the flaps finally completed their cycle so as we accelerated, we could pull the nose up and start climbing out. Every mission, that sequence was followed. The Nav team hated it. Any additional crew members required for the days mission would choose to fly on the B52H's because their thrust was about twice ours without water injection. Ahhh, the good ole days....
"I love the smell of jet exhaust in the morning" I was stationed at a SAC base. We had many "mobility" exercises. At least once a month. We had 56 B-52's and a dozen KC-135's. When they did MITO's they would get them ALL up in less than 18 minutes. Have ya ever heard 448 engines all at the same time? what? What? WHAT? I can't hear you.
Ah, those were proper planes back then. Somehow a B-52 with a turbofan just isn't a real B-52 to me. They sound like big turboprops, and they don't smoke enough. As planes "advance" they loose a lot of their true character, in my opinion. Although a B-52 with TF33s would seem far more interesting than a B-52 with four hi-bypass turbofans, as some keep advocating. That indeed would really justify a new designation for them (used to be they would give a new designation for every minor little change, while lately a whole new avionics set just means a new "Block" number half the time).
Re rdfox76's comment, there was one 6-month period in the mid-60s when every SAC base's bombers and tankers launched on their Operational Readiness Inspection (ORI) mission in a mass MITO. At Turner AFB, GA we launched 15 tankers and 15 bombers together, with six aircraft on the active runway at one time. The noise was deafening to those family members watching from the perimeter fence, and the turbulence (I was in the 23rd aircraft) was pretty exciting. As Poe's raven said "nevermore!"
Notice how the planes end up flying parallel to each other, instead of making a row? That's not an accident, but part of the MITO procedure. It's half about avoiding the unstable tail vortices of the preceding aircraft, and half about not making an easy, single target to a potential, incoming fighter.
If one saw this it meant the sub launched nukes were on their way. The Soviets would try and knockout the bomber after they had taken off by detonating nukes in their supposed flight path away from the base as well.
1:40 Sounds a little like (but louder and smokier) the 727s that used to fly over my house near Hartsfield in the 80s. I like the sound of jets but the 727s were very annoying and Delta seemed to have a lot them!
We had an F model lose an engine and water on the same wing during an ORI in 1969 made it OK just cleared the water tower in White Settlement Texas. Maximum effort!
Wurtsmith the triangle k on tail is the 379th this base had huge history was a shame they closed it I seen old crow express take off and fly off into the history books. Later was there when her closed ki Sawyer in 94 the guardians of the north were no more
We launched 14 gravity loaded Buffs MITO on Guam during Busy Coconut 88 with no red balls. All came back clean. Quite a task but sent a message to the bean counters the B-52 was and still is a viable war-time asset.
Hello Paul I was stationed at Guam for a while in 74 or 75. I use to really enjoy watching the 52, tankers and fighters leave their. On their way back home. That runway from the terminal end has a very distinctive dip in it. And from my security post. At that end you could watch the. SAC planes almost disappear before they would get enough speed to get into the air.
Do you remember the alert area a little further up? One night we had a aircraft call a inflight emergency. Said that he had a fire. The poor guy got confused on where they were directing him to. And got a little to close!! I don’t think that I have ever seen that many flashing lights or heard sirens like that again anywhere.
Any time I got called into the bosses office. I thought of that poor pilot. And it didn’t seem so bad.
Those were about 15-second MITOs. When we went to 12-second, that's when it got really fun. You can barely see the BUFF (and runway) right in front of you through his exhaust, and just hope to God you don't hear an abort call from someone. Inevitably after take off, you get into a little of his wake turbulence as you make your way to your own assigned heading, and for a second for two, the plane just does it's own thing before you regain control. What a blast.
were you a BUFF Pilot?
@@sidv4615 Yes sir.
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The Dash One manual mentioned a "25 mile noise footprint." My parents were once visiting, I instructed the wife to stand with them off the end of Carswell's south runway. We delayed rotation on a Wet thrust takeoff, treated them to noise that they could feel in their bones. It was the highlight of their visit!
Lived off the end of the runway at Kincheloe AFB, Michigan. They used to rip the roof off the house. Loved it!
Named after Ivan?
Named after Ivan?
Nice video of the b-52 and kc-135s Minot takeoff video
You can't appreciate this until you actually see it in the real. 28th BW, Ellsworth AFB SD August 1976 to December 1979. Ellsworth AFB had 30 B-52H models and I watched as 15 of them were generated during an ORI
When it was cold enough, they didn't use water injection - the temperature differential was enough to provide the needed thrust - and the water tanks were dumped to prevent freezing in the aircraft. As it warmed up, they needed to have their water tanks filled again. So, at certain times of the year in your average northern tier SAC base, the tanks were dumped nearly every night and there would be a moderately organized scramble in the morning to get the alert force topped off again.
That was my job - POL not only handled jet fuels, but also the demineralized water. This wasn't any water that you could drink - it was rife with acids that broke down any minerals that might clog the inlet nozzles. And it had to be delivered heated. Many a mid-shift hour was spent in the pre-dawn, pulling the water trucks out of the barn, parking them in a circle, and setting them to recirculate water through their heaters, occasionally going up top to drop a thermometer down the man hatch. The area was always permeated by an oily mildew smell that I will never forget. That was a long couple of hours.
So it was a bit like looking after cattle.
That "oily mildew smell" might have been hydrazine, an additive to prevent oxidation to pumps, valves, etc. Extremely toxic but extremely effective.
Liar. The jet engines run off of fuel, not water.
Carl Saberhagen I like how you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.
@@rifleshooterchannel208 I assumed Carl was making a funny.
As cool as this is as a dependent living at Ellsworth and March Air Force Base when I saw this knowing my father was flying one of these I would literally pray it was an exercise. Us cold war brats had nightmares knowing this is how the end would begin. And if it happened near noon when the 12 o clock siren would blare I would break out in a cold sweat. Thank God for the Men & Women of the Strategic Air Command who made Damn sure it didn't happen. Freedom Ain't Free!
When I was growing up I remember seen those smoke trails my house would shake near castle air force base home of the b-52 at that time early 90s
Thank you for your service we appreciate you 🙏💪
I pulled alert for SAC, READY to nuke 200 million commies, now they runnin the country, not 1 shot fired!
My dad too, bro, from 59 To 65.
@@mateostaplez7497 Grew up on SAC bases from 55 to 64. My dad didn't fly at that point but was a nuclear weapons officer. Many of my friends dads were B-52 pilots or crew. We all knew as young kids that if it was a real war that we were all toast.
I just can't get enough of these J-57s, can't get enough.
That water injection system REALLY produces some serious noise. 1979 I was at Duluth IAP just arrived there and waiting for permenant housing. KC-135's would come to Duluth from the nearby SAC bases (At that time it was Strategic Air Command) to shoot touch and go's. So for over an hour you could hear the tanker approaching and just wait for that moment when the throttled up and those old water injected engines would rattle every window on the small base. It took about 3-5 minutes for them to do that loop and return and you just knew it was coming and there was nothing you could do. This would be happening between about 6:00PM and 9:00 PM On of those sounds you can never forget along with the screech of the F-104, and the lawnmower sound of the C-5
I was a KC-135 Nav stationed at Plattsburgh AFB. Believe me, being in a MITO was every bit as much fun as it looks.
I was a gunner at KI, MITO was fun if you were the first ship. Otherwise, it was ... festive lol.
Same here on EC-135's. If a MITO didn't get your heart beating fast, nothing would.
Recognize the name Pete Mrvos by chance?
How do we know this to be true?
@@wrs8574 is that Peter J Mrvos you're talking bout?
As a young boy living near Carswell AFB (Early 1970's, Fort Worth TX) I didn't know why the B-52s took off so close together, I just knew it happened quite a bit. All us kids knew if that day ever arrived, the war wouldn't last long. Carswell to the west, the Dallas Naval Air Station to the east. Defense plants for General Dynamics, Bell Helicopter, and LTV, all had to be prime targets Soviet ICBMs.
Encountered many MITO's during my assignment to Fairchild AFB Washington. I was in the alarm tower of the alert area 50 feet up, had a commanding view as the aircraft headed to the opposite direction taking off. Most always the aircraft started at the 23 end of the runway near the alert area as to not pose a risk to the alert B-52's on the Christmas Tree.
Spent my first years of life 5 miles from Rickenbacker AFB in Ohio. I was introduced to the thunderous sound of J57 powered KC135s at a very young age!
I worked on the B-52 in Andersen AFB, Guam and on the C-130 in Little Rock AFB, Arkansas!
SAC STRATEGIC AIR COMMAND
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Kind of crazy that these were loud and smokey on the KC-135A but only have 1/2 the power of the CFM-56. Crazy how advanced we are now.
Especially considering the Rolls Royce upgrades going on the B-52J.
I love torbojets noise. Its a symphony!!!
It's crazy how the KC-135's with 4 less engines sound just as loud as the B-52's.
And they have a different sound to them,almost a howl.
Interesting to see B-52G without high pitch whine of TF-33 gives a different character to her.
Matt McGowan the B-52G has. FAN Jet Engines! They take off at 65% throttle the earlier engines were straight jet engines and used water injection to augment thrust and screamed until the water was used up!
@@mattmcgowan7709 The B-52 had turbojet engines, the "H" has low bypass turbofans.
@@mattmcgowan7709 Pretty sure the G model still used the J57,the H model introduced the TF-33.Still funny how the 135s seemed louder with only 4 J57s.
I live about 5 miles south directly under barksdale AFB. I have seen crazy stuff over the years. You can always tell when something is up because the b-52s will be flying all night. It have seen MITO once.... Scared the shit out of me.
They fly over the ranch at ~500-2000 ft. They have rattled the windows on the house before when really going hard.
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I loved the sweet chorus of eight J-57's. I think they always used water injection flying out of Kadena AB Okinawa in the 1960s. I was always impressed by the MITO launches of tall tail B-52Ds and KC-135As headed "down south". The later fan jets just don't sing like the J-57.
'The Best Years of Our Life' - kinda - Altus AFB, OK, the 11th Air Refueling Squadron, KC-135 and 307 Strategic Bomb Wing, B-52D, U-Tapao AFLD, Thailand. Both used the J-57 (with water) and both left a love in your soul. The only thing I ever experienced with more sound and shake was the U-2. Sweet memories.
A Moore what year were you there? I was there 75-78 IFR maintenance on KC135.
@@heribertawells9297 - I was there in 1970. Started in Altus with KC-135's (jet engine 43250), went to U-Tapao with B-52's, and back to Altus. The first orders they cut for me out of U-Tapao were to March AFB with a MAC group and then said no - once SAC always SAC - back to Altus. Arthur
@@amoore8761 Was there in 69 and January 70 you guys missed the b52 that blew up on takeoff in 69
Miss seeing the three tone SIOP paint scheme with the gloss white underside
Damn LOUDEST SOUND FROM THE AIRCRAFT 💪🏻💪🏻 Superb & Impressive
The world was a safer place with those J57’s flying above. The sight, sound and smell of those engines with water injection….one of the greatest sights in aviation!
1968 UTapou 6 month's of listings to that music!! I know who the real rock stars are!! USA 🇺🇸
I really miss the AirFetes at RAF Mildenhall must have watched 12/13 and we all the family loved it
Love the H, but how cool it must have been to hear 8× turbojets in unison.
Thanks propliner1955, I have since looked further into these old engines and learned alot including water injection. Very interesting how more power was achieved.
I like how they take off, one moment on the ground, next moment airborne and climbing. No obvious rotation like modern planes.
This was out of Wurtsmith AFB. Was there for a few years. Peep that triangle K on the vert stab. 379th Bomb wing
Seven B-52 and three KC-135 in 5-6 minutes. Not bad.
Best MITO footage I've ever seen. If I could, I'd save this vid to my PC
Just Download It To Your Computer - It's Easy..!
@@RemoVegas I just can't! It says: Type: text_plain (hopefully I am writing it right). I have more than 300 pure aviation videos saved in my PC, plus a lot in my cellphone (UA-cam Go). I already had this video in my UA-cam Go, but, one day, the video was deleted and the app said: The owner of this video doesn't allow the download (something like that).
They still do MITOs like this with the B-52Hs at both Minot AFB, ND and Barksdale AFB, MS. Sure would love to see one for the B-1Bs and the B-2s!
When America was great and the rest of the world trembled at the thought of 52s over head
#1 terror weapon in Vietnam.. Couldn't see or hear them. everything just blew up!
I watched this while on a fuel stop sitting on an inactive runway at Andersen loaded for bear! 5 minutes after the last one left then 10 came back clean! 2 days later after an RON at Clark field, PI I felt and heard them drop their ordnance!
A thing of beauty!
Love those smokey J-57's !
Station Altus AFB, Ok 1975-1978 IFR maintenance on KC135 miss those birds.
The J57 had a completely different sound when using water injection. With the water on, the engines were just this big, massive roar. Without water, you could actually hear the high pitched whine/whistle the engines made as the aircraft approached. Compare the G models in this video to hear the difference: ua-cam.com/video/P76fEoUOjsU/v-deo.html
Though I know the TF-33 engines that came on the H model were a big improvement in terms of thrust and fuel efficiency, there was always something about the J57 equipped B-52s that I preferred. I'm probably just one of those rare nut cases, but I like my aircraft LOUD. Those old G models were certainly loud. You could hear the rumble continue for what seemed like 5 minutes after one passed overhead.
The B52 will always be my favorite plane
Tanker sounds just as good!
Some of my best years was while in the USAF, first assignment was Helenikon AB Greece then onto Carswell AFB (Ft.Worth) a SAC base. Common saying "SAC sucks but a suck for SAC is a blow for freedom!"
Lyle / Tulsa
Remember it well Was at Carswell from 66-70 except for some time in Thailand. When I was there it was SAC SUX
I was ground man on about 75 engines runs on KC 135A (j 57)at Kadena AFB in 72
It looks bloody great and I wish I was there to see it live but after the first aircraft takes off its a wonder the rest of them can see where they are going with the amount of smoke ejected.
Insrument T/O`s..
The J-57 is no longer used because it sucks up a lot of fuel like crazy and even the last of the 707 jets have been refitted with newer technology engines on them.
Nothing like the sounds and sights of J57's at full throttle with water injection system being used to add thrust. Spent many hours on both the B52G and KC135A aircraft. Too bad they are deemed obsolete now days. They both were great flying a and very capable aircraft.
Got to be ground man on all 4 engine run in water injection on KC 135A Kadena AFB ( j 57 ). Newer engines have almost twice the power
For me TF39s sound even better
Major Kong approves!
Triangle with the "K" on the tail of the B-52s is a dead giveaway of the location...379th Bomb Wing, Wurtsmith AFB, Michigan.
Yeah who's gonna go fly to MI to try and take that out?
@@mftripz8445 Yup, meant a lot to us stationed there.
@@courtpark When was this videoed? Wurtsmith had all "H" models from 62-66, when I was there. They must have rotated them out.
Long live the 379th and wurtsmith
@@tomking1890 They swapped H's for G's when they deployed to support the Vietnam War, never went back to the H's.
FANTASTIC
Thanks for keeping the cold war cold... and won.
Screw the planet! Those engines are awesome!!😉
There is a movie about the B-52 which has the late rod taylor and rock Hudson in it.
It was made in the year of 1957 and is a true classic.
It hasthis nearly the same scene in the film
bombers b-52.
That would be "A Gathering of Eagles" from 1962, yes, great film!! "Bombers B-52" was indeed 1957, and starred Karl Malden, Natalie Wood and Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.
The classic film to which you refer was story of the 93rd Bombardment Wing; stationed at Castle AFB, California;
near my hometown ( Merced ), the base where my dad finished his T.O.D. Castle was ALSO the FIRST installation to
receive and operate the Boeing KC-135; also in March of 1957 ( just a little factoid for you trivia geeks! ).
*Just an additional footnote: The film in reference pertains to the storied 93rd Bomber Wing; who became
famous for being the FIRST squadron to SUCCESSFULLY fly around the world NON-STOP. This feat was only
remarkable at that time in that it was done WITHOUT the aide of the faster, higher-flying KC-135; which had
not yet come into service. Instead, the B-52 crews had to rely on the slower, lower-flying, piston-engined "old
clunker" for refueling, the KC-97.
That would be "A Gathering Of Eagles" that Rock Hudson and Rod Taylor starred in. "Bombers B-52" has Ephram Zimbalist Jr. in it and, of course, one should not miss that Grand Daddy of them all (even though it's B-36s and B-47s) "Strategic Air Command" starring James Maitland "Jimmy" Stewart.
Noise, power, pollution, I love the old low bypass turbojet engines. You just don't get them like that anymore.
Listercurt *NO* bypass engines.
Bypass is applied only for turbofan engines (Every turbojet engine is 0/1 bypass)
Interesting how the J57s simply roared. The TF33s instead sounds like banshees screaming
All of these J-57 engines are gone and so are many of these B-52's except the H models we have today as for the tankers they still use the KC-135 jets still to this day.
"nice planes "
"I SAID NICE PLANES!"
Ah...yowl!
Love love love 10 years of my life
That was the loudest sound I ever heard - a B-52 takeoff right over me at a motel at 5:30am in Ft. Worth.
I was there in 66-70 Carswell AFB double wing of B52-F
This must be from the early 1980s since the BUFFs are G models. Nothing makes as much smoke as a J57 using water injection takeoff power.
My wife grew up near a SAC base in the 1960s (her dad did maintenance on B-52s), and she told me when they did a rapid alert wing scramble, the noise was so overpowering that she crouched down under the kitchen table.
I LOVED K.I. Sawyer. Preflighting Buf's in the middle of the winter. Yeah Riiiiight!
I was at KI `79-`80 and enjoyed all those MITO`s
beautiful
A squadron of Buffs and KC's creates its own weather system. I think it got darker as the smoke blotted out the sun! That's a lotta coal burnin' goin' on. LOVE it. Go, USAF/USAFR/USANG!!
That`s not Griffiss or Loring, it`s Wurtsmith.
@robytar It is sad that the world will never get to hear that again. Unfortunately, I have never heard it myself either.
those J57s with water injection were said to be louder than a Concorde with afterburners at takeoff
The human eardrum ruptures at 170 decibels. According to Mark Hasara's book Tanker Pilot, a takeoff in one of the KC-135A "Water Wagon" aircraft with the water injection on was around 165 decibels.
The J 57 engines were first used on the old 707 jet airliners and believe it or not the KC 135 stratotankers are the old 707 jet airliners but thanks to todays technological advancements the new jets are much better and quieter now.
Not really...
Both the KC-135 and the 707 were based on the 367-80 prototype, but no 707 was ever converted to a KC-135. Proving this knowing they are in service since the 1950s or 1960s
Con éstos motores si eran muy ruidosos al despegar. Vaya poder de sus turnorreactores. Extraordinario video. 😃👍
Impressive😎👍!
With all that black smoke, it must have made it easier to avoid the wake turbulence
When they did the MITO, the 1st launch was straight away, the 2nd usually to the rt., the 3rd to the lt, then repeat. If you see one, you'll notice the later planes require more runway.
The KC-135 doesn't have the J 57 engines anymore it has the newer types on it now.They like the B-52 have also had upgrades on them.
Incorrect, Sir John! (partially, that is) No series of B-52 has ever had any engine upgrades/replacements. What you perceive as upgraded engines is actually the remaining 70 or so B-52Hs which were manufactured with Pratt & Whitney TF-33 engines which they retain to this day. All SAC B-52Gs (J-57s with water injection, featured in this video) were retired in the mid to late '90s with their owning bases closed. Barksdale and Minot are the only remaining B-52 Home Bases)
"Smoke on!" :)
Correction: NO bypass, not low bypass. Bypass applies to turbofan engines only.
We didn't mito with our iron bomb load outa Guam slated for targets in Vietnam in our G's. In all the missions as copilot I flew outa Guam, we never had flying speed even with water injection, by the end of the runway because the center of the runway was lower than each end. The airspeed indicator would stop increasing after the midpoint. So the pilot and I would pull the yoke back to 'yank' our buff off the runway then count to five and push the nose over to gain flying speed as we descended toward the ocean pulling up the gear and flaps, waiting for the water to run out after 90 seconds. The gear came up quick, then while the flaps were coming up, the water would run out about the time we had flying speed. Then the flaps finally completed their cycle so as we accelerated, we could pull the nose up and start climbing out. Every mission, that sequence was followed. The Nav team hated it. Any additional crew members required for the days mission would choose to fly on the B52H's because their thrust was about twice ours without water injection. Ahhh, the good ole days....
Holy crap The sky is Black ;D
The G model didn’t have that Whistle whine ?
No it had J57s
"I love the smell of jet exhaust in the morning"
I was stationed at a SAC base. We had many "mobility" exercises. At least once a month. We had 56 B-52's and a dozen KC-135's. When they did MITO's they would get them ALL up in less than 18 minutes. Have ya ever heard 448 engines all at the same time?
what? What? WHAT? I can't hear you.
Ah, those were proper planes back then. Somehow a B-52 with a turbofan just isn't a real B-52 to me. They sound like big turboprops, and they don't smoke enough. As planes "advance" they loose a lot of their true character, in my opinion. Although a B-52 with TF33s would seem far more interesting than a B-52 with four hi-bypass turbofans, as some keep advocating. That indeed would really justify a new designation for them (used to be they would give a new designation for every minor little change, while lately a whole new avionics set just means a new "Block" number half the time).
Kel Harper Like I HATE how they neutered the C-5 by replacing the TF-39 :,( Awful
Antenov still uses water injection on its engines.
From were Did they bring toouch of SMO-KE.....
ITS truly amazing
The kc135 chasing those kerosine gulping giants! That's funny. They were almost as loud!
I don't think they're "BUFF"s. I think they're BBPs (Big Beautiful Planes).
Chris Baker
Same
Well, I think the Antonovs and A380s are BUFFs!!!!
The original BUFF was just one F in 1967 it was called a BUF, Big Ugly F'er The "one F" went with SAC, MAC and TAC and at the time SAC SUX..
Re rdfox76's comment, there was one 6-month period in the mid-60s when every SAC base's bombers and tankers launched on their Operational Readiness Inspection (ORI) mission in a mass MITO. At Turner AFB, GA we launched 15 tankers and 15 bombers together, with six aircraft on the active runway at one time. The noise was deafening to those family members watching from the perimeter fence, and the turbulence (I was in the 23rd aircraft) was pretty exciting. As Poe's raven said "nevermore!"
When dinosaurs roamed the Earth-God I love it
Love that water injection
Notice how the planes end up flying parallel to each other, instead of making a row? That's not an accident, but part of the MITO procedure. It's half about avoiding the unstable tail vortices of the preceding aircraft, and half about not making an easy, single target to a potential, incoming fighter.
It's called dirty air.
I'd say the real dirty comes from water injection. ;)
How come there 12 who actually don't like this? Are they mad?
3 B-52G and a KC-135 Tanker in first wave, 3 B-52G and 2 KC-135 Tankes second wave
2:06 is a sight indeed… wow
What is it with these engines that makes them so smokey? I love their wings! Mind you, I love the B52, love the C5 more... 👍🇺🇸
Steam, water injected turbines.
@@inquirewue2 Interesting...thank you! I'll have to research further 🇺🇸 I love good ol' war planes! 👍
Injecting demineralized water right into the engine for a boost in thrust
JP4
The G, when the B-52 roared!
Now she screams!
and after engine upgrade down to four...
Next she'll whisper...
Delten -Eleven but all there is now is the H.
@@pilotmulerider975With remaining H's there is proposal to upgrade to 4× high bypass turbofans; RR or PWs like that power C-17.
Thats not Griffiss, it's Wurtsmith in MI. I grew up near Griffiss
If one saw this it meant the sub launched nukes were on their way. The Soviets would try and knockout the bomber after they had taken off by detonating nukes in their supposed flight path away from the base as well.
Bullshit.
1:40 Sounds a little like (but louder and smokier) the 727s that used to fly over my house near Hartsfield in the 80s. I like the sound of jets but the 727s were very annoying and Delta seemed to have a lot them!
Nothing.
Was louder than a 727. The B52 has more smoke because they had more engine. I love the smoke. I love the smell and I love the noise.
@@joejordan1259 LOL, 707s, DC-8s & CV880s were much louder than a 727!
Miss those Triangle K's.
I'm surprised the SPs let him stand right under the flight path. If one of those planes lost water and came down he would be toast.
We had an F model lose an engine and water on the same wing during an ORI in 1969 made it OK just cleared the water tower in White Settlement Texas. Maximum effort!
J57s!!
How smokey those turbojets were
Water injection b52s??
B52G..or D.
What year was this video?
GO buffs GO! Pedal to the metal.
Wurtsmith the triangle k on tail is the 379th this base had huge history was a shame they closed it I seen old crow express take off and fly off into the history books. Later was there when her closed ki Sawyer in 94 the guardians of the north were no more
Soon will be getting new RR engines.