Zephia and Griss death scene - Fire Emblem Engage
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- Zephia and Griss death scene in Fire Emblem Engage
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Griss is the last person that I would think to have some wholesome last moments.
Unit classes are not the thing one takes into account when analyzing a unit but i feel it merits this time.
Zephia has a unique class to her alone called "Melusine", as it turns out this class reveals quite a bit about her character.
"Melusine" is a fairy from French folklore that falls in love and eventually marries a man and willingly shares her fortune, her life and bears his children so long as the man upholds one promise to her, which he often does not. Melusine is commonly depicted as a woman with draconic or serpentine traits and is considered somewhat analogous to certain notions of mermaids or water nymphs
Fun Fact: an the Mobile game Fate Grand Order Melusine is the true Idenity of Fairy Knight Lancelot appearently she was born from the Flesh of the dead body of the White Dragon Albion
@@Omegadra And I was just thinking of that Melusine when I was reading the comment.
Though yes, there are various similarities I find with Zephia and Melusine (the French folklore version). But what really hits me is the fact that Sombron was actively seeking to be alone to reachieve his connection with his emblem, rather than some immoral decision that most men marrying Melusine have. Though, both desires are in the end selfish, as both hurt Zephia/Melusine in the end.
@@blueboltbomber8786 he quite literally betrayed Zephia as he promised her a child of her own and never followed through and she foolishly kept to his side under the impression that if she constantly affirmed her loyalty she would one day be blessed with a child of her own. She sadly realized she was but another pawn on Sombron's scheme, ready to be used at his convenience and discarted as soon as her use has expired, all too late
I honestly wasn't expecting to like Griss but his final line made me tear up so much.
My younger sister showed me the death scene and I literally cried because it hurt me so much💔
Same. He kind of grew on me.
Same. Hes my favourite bad guy in the game! Hes honestly a better villan than sombron 😂
@dannyboi1706 I wanted call up Grima during all of Sombron's scenes. Someone needs to show him what a real fell dragon is like. XD
@@scarletwolf9910 XD
I like to think in their final moments, Zephia and Griss think to themselves, "I'm sorry for what I've done, Marni". Thats my headcanon at least and made the scene more emotional for me.
Marni: sociopath who gets killed the nanosecond their empathy starts to bloom.
Zephia: sociopath who never really got a chance to feel true connections, despite all her opportunities (Griss existing, being able to do the Time Crystal thingy to visit her own family), due to spite and basically being taken in by Sombron.
Griss: poor little BDSM guy.
Mauvier: only normal person.
Griss had no one and was so desperate for any form of connection to anyone he legit fell into BDSM until he met Zephia.
Mauvier was born in Firene but his father died despite her mother's prayers to the divine dragon and went to Elusia for the fell dragon.
Mauvier isn't really devoted to the fell dragon but joined the Four Hounds since he found his place as Veyle's knight.
god. the 4 hounds were like cartoonishly evil and zephia goes full on petty spite but god this really brought a tear to my eye
Honestly even till the end, she remains in character, remains spiteful - just to a different target. She really does have a interesting personality.
She was very consistent. Can’t hate her for tht. I respect tht consistency actually.
Zephia may be prideful and doesn't admit her mistakes but she's honest in every word she says and Griss he truly loved her to the point that he used the last of his strength to comfort her by holding her hand so that they would walk the other side together.
The emotions were core to this story and is incredibly well handled thank you Fire Emblem for this amazing game.
Jesus, this was the best cutscene in the game and i really wasn't prepared for or expecting it. Griss and zephia are some of the best characters and i really hope we get more of them in the dlc :')
Damn man, I didn't expect this game to make me feel feelings as many times as it did. Between this, Lumera's end (both of them, haha) and some others it feels so much more poignant than Fates and Awakening. Full voice acting really does so much for a game. Laura Stahl absolutely kills it in this game.
Anywhoozies, honestly all Four Hounds having hidden depths and the way these two meet their ends *DOES* make it feel like they're possibly being set up as recruitable characters. Maybe in the coming "Fell Xenologue", a girl can dream....
Maybe a DLC where they all get revived and get a second chance to repent for their wicked deeds. Though I'm unsure who the 4th character would be. Zephia at least has a better chance since she has a unique class. I can also imagine Griss and Marni getting their own classes.
This scene. My God. How are they going to take 2 of the most murdery characters in the game and give them the greatest and saddest scene to end their plot. I was not expecting the conversation that followed after the battle. Way to make us feel bad about 2 of the most hated characters up to this point.
Griss wasn't really hated I think. He doesn't kill any of the main characters. He has mental problems and he wants somewhere to belong. He just happened to He recruited by zephia , it could be anyone. Zephia on the other hand is plain evil
Bruh they better give the hounds a reprise in the story DLC. You can't just make such cool and great designed villains and then give them one of the best cutscenes in the game. Come on give us Awakening style pre-endgame recruits I beg of you.
the last dlc wave gives us a 3 more chars to recruit, my hopes is that zephia, griss and marni somehow come back to life so we cna recruit them
@@omegaderose4342 They might have a chance as revived or alternate reality versions od themselves. Their original JP names are als colors: Sepia, Gris (Grey) and Marron. 3 of the five dlc characters are called Celestia, Gregory and Madeline which seem awfully similar to those 3 names (maybe their actual names and the names we know them as are nicknames?) Celestia also has the same VA as Zephia though less condescending and more kind sounding. Madeline has a bond support where she asks Edelgard what her parents probably think of her which would fit Marni's mother issues and need to want to be praised. Gregory has a support with Claude where Claude tells him to run into an enemy group and distract them, which would make sense since Griss would be very willing to run into an enemy group and receive a beating since he loves pain. Then we also get Celeste and Rafale, I think and axe female class character and a male lance character who seems to also be able to turn into a dragon. Those two might be two thought to be dead children of Sombron or maybe other divine dragons who went into hiding?
@@omegaderose4342 There also seem to be 5 paralogue chapters (apart from the side story which includes those 5 units) which could be the maps in the main campaign where you possibly recruit each of the five chars, after chapter 23 if they are the hounds we know.
@@hoshueyeplopper4465 well i know the dlc chapter the divine or what is called where you with tiki ha some more quests but you cna play them yet since they all unlock with coming dlc waves
Isn't the whole point of Zephia's character that she doesn't want to be forgiven? Besides, we already have Ivy. Each of the Four Hounds serve as evil counterparts to 2 of the 8 princes/princesses.
Just went through this cutscene, and that last part made me cry so much.
"Wait, before I die, give me like at least 10 minutes to explain my backstory and motivation. Hope you don't mind."
Zephia's sudden change of heart in calling the "hounds" a family, after fire blasting mauvier and marni then later on stabbed Marni to death mercilessly with no emotion just two chapters ago. just wtf
Tbf, it sorta makes sense when you consider her idol/role model is Sombron.
The man who casually kills his children when they are defective. Especially since he views them more as tools. Zephia's idea of family would easily be warped worshipping a man like that for over 1000 years.
emotins can switch on a dime man. put into different situations people will feel different things that will lead into other feelings. facing death sombered her to what really mattered and tratgically it was too late
Okay, when she says 'family', it's more of like the dysfunctional kind, not a loving one!
All too late she realized her folly in not valuing the people close to her as a family because she wanted a biological one so badly, and so she abused them
It's not that strange when you think about it
I wonder if Zephia ever have any regret or guilt for what she had done to poor Veyle as well as killing Marni because even in death she doesn't seem to have any regret at all.
She seems sort of regretful but I feel like Zephia it’s too prideful to even accept her mistakes.
Maybe if things had been different. To me, it feels like all Four Hounds have redeemable qualities. Hells, even *SOMBRON'S* main lack in life that led him to being the way he was was a lack of meaningful connections.
Perhaps if he'd been befriended earlier, he may have been amenable to Veyle and Alear's pleas. As it stands, he had been alone far too long. Too set in his ways to ever change, not even for his offspring.
That's assuming that if they are willing to accept their mistakes and so forth that they saw only as a weakness in their twisted minds. As much as we want to hope they could be redeemed, it never happened because they made their choices on what counted as the strong and what's weak. Choices of following Sombrom so they can stand on high so they can never feel weak again.
Some parts of them were immature and/or lived with us tragedy, they never learned anything else they should have learned, but the era and times they lived in with the people who lived there refuses to let them truly mature.
Zephia and Gross were lost beyond the reaches of anyone. Sure, only they could attempt to turn back, but points stand. Hard times do create strong people, but some people remain lacking in other values and positive things they could have embraced and learn to find a balance, thus they are shaped by who they choose to be and how they see the world.
@@leon4000 I mean, I'm not sure what else the upcoming "Fell Xenologue" DLC could be about. We only have three living Fell Dragons in Engage.
that's a villain for ya
No! No! No! Do not make me feel bad for the villains!
Nothing hurts me anymore hit me hard man
Ngl this cutscene got me in my feels a bit. Respect for them trying to make the villains interesting
It may sound horrible, but I didn’t feel any sympathy for them. Zephia was physically and emotionally abusive towards Veyle. And she killed Marnie. I find it difficult to bemoan a child abuser facing consequences.
Thank goodness I'm not alone. After all her actions throughout the game they expected me to feel sorry for that trash? You don't get to show me how you relished in all the death and chaos you spread and then let loose some spiel revealing how deep you think you are
Same here, I don't like Zephia not even a bit even after this cutscene...I was surprised to feel a bit of sadness for Griss tho
I don't think the intention was for us to feel sympathy for them.
Spoilers for Three Houses
Fleche's death in Azure Moon felt more sad and sympathetic than this
That was easily the best cutscene in the game. Tbh it was an incredibly good cutscene in general, I was pretty shocked at how good the writing got towards the end, they waited too long to get serious with these characters but man they really nailed it.
Griss's japanese VA in this cutscene sounds so real. The raspy and almost soundless voice, it fits perfectly and made this scene a hundred times better.
Veyle: "Why'd ya kill Marni, Zephia?"
Zephia: "Idk, Sombron does that to _his_ kids."
Alear: "Didn't you have parents?"
Zephia: "I won't answer that while you're around."
Alear: "What?"
Zephia: "What?"
god this cutscene had me in tears i wasnt expecting it and it was so good?? i really wish you couldve recruited them, i was so interested in them 😭
I'm curious as to whether Mauvier has a special battle quote with Griss and Zephia-- no one's used him for this particular boss chapter, but he was absolutely *out for blood* when Marni died. Would be a shame not to follow up on it.
He does.
@@nicolasbanidol2371 Do you know of any video where they're shown?
Mauvier tells Zephia that he was going to kill her. Zephia tells him he can just walk away but Mauvier tells her she taught him not to leave loose ends unattended. I'm paraphrasing ofc but I use Mauvier
@@shido5180 Also Griss said he sees Mauvier like a brother or something.
@@CountShaman
Griss taunts Mauvier, taunting him if he was running to see if he can rejoin the hounds, Mauvier responds that he is going to kill Griss, nothing more.
You know, the more I think about. Zephia and Griss are like the opposite of Lumera and Alear.
Why the villains always have the best designs, even in 3H.
Ehhh, debatable.
I can let grids slide but idk what the hell is going on with Zephia, though out of the rest of the cast in the game yeah I can see what you mean
I strongly would like to refute that the dubstep mole people had the best designs.
@@pinpinku9321 Zephia's design is fantastic; arguably the strongest design in the game. It immediately communicates a huge amount of info about her: Villain, manakete, tribal, motherly. She has a great silhouette thanks to the moon and pareo (Which the moon's asymmetry is the perfect shape balancer to her asymmetric bangs), her core color balance has wonderful harmony between the muted purple and bright golds (complimentaries) and, in contrast to Alear's god-awful use of pure blue and red, Zephia uses a magenta and blue bringing the colors closer to a harmonic diad rather than isolated primaries. The use of high saturation contrasts she uses in her eye color immediately draws attention to her face and expression, especially since her eyes are thin (Something that helps it sit parallel along the moon's center axis letting the eye run smoothly across the face) and only one is visible.
To put in comparison with a similar design in the game, she has a lot of similarities to Ivy's design but better. Ivy's daubs sheer white (which you want to avoid usually) and Zephia also dodges using non-hued black (A good thing) instead opting for a muted purple. Instead of white she uses the platinum blonde in her hair and tan skin as the lighter end of her color spectrum which work well with the gold already established in her color palette. Both characters have head-heavy silhouettes but Zephia's does a better job moving your eye from top to bottom where Ivy' purely circular head adornment causes your eye to hold and stop; not helped by its net texture. Not to mention while Ivy's offers cool silhouette and framing depending on the scene, it's intrusive in dialogue scenes and gets in the way of any emotion outside of "mysterious".
I think Engage's designs are somewhat hit or miss and Mika Pikazo was a very strange pick for a fantasy epic genre, but Zephia's is almost certainly the stand out in the cast though there's others with good ones as well.
Bruh, Awakening and Fates villains have horrendous designs. Engage's villains is a blessing to the sight after those eyesores.
Everything they done cannot be forgiven, but wherever they go from here, may it be kinder to them than this world has.
THIS WAS SO GOOD OMG
This scene was too good. I chuckled in a bit of tears to this one myself ngl.
Keep the good work
I cried not because I find this sad but because I want these two to be playable. Better give us something on the upcoming DLCs, I want to see Griss and Alear's dynamic like "Hey remember that time I want to kill you, now I'll kill for you ;)".
I very much would like to have Marni as a playable unit, I liked her.
Wish granted.
Just got to this in the game had to come watch it again cause damn didn’t expect that. And griss nothing hurts anymore damn it’s good asf
I think one thing I really appreciated about this whole sequence is that the game isn’t asking you to forgive them. Zephia even admits her whole change of heart speech was bullshit because at her core she is an incredibly petty person. She loves the idea of family but can’t understand the concept of forgiveness considering Sombron is a selfish piece of shit and that’s the example she took from. She tries to make one among the hounds but Mauvier was only ever loyal to Veyle and Marnie was desperate for attention. Mauvier would leave the moment Veyle left and Marnie would have accepted any group that would have her. Griss is the one that loved her for her and that’s what this scene is really trying to convey. They are bad people, objectively bad. We shouldn’t forgive them, or pity them, but at the very least we should understand them. Idk if that makes sense but I went into this game expecting Fates level writing (Especially after the first three chapters) and this scene really surprised me.
damn they were playing with permadeath on
It's easy to forget tht there are more dragon species in the FE universe even if Zephia is the only one with a name in this game.
It’s weird hearing urbosas voice coming from her.
I’m still amazed by how at first all four of the hounds looked like shallow and one note anime stereotypes but at the last minute they’re all given depth that feels legitimately built up to and well earned making me really like all four of them. I was not impressed at all with this game’s story as a whole throughout most of it just for it to blow my expectations out of the water at the last second.
Probably to have a base to make then one of the focus of the upcoming DLC, it's a clever move actually, because I'm curious to get to know them better in a "normal/pacific" persona
Sombron: "Veyle, you suck."
Veyle: "I CAN USE YOUR EFFING MAGIC, BETTER THAN YOU CAN!"
Sombron: "Mad cuz bad."
Veyle: "NYEEEEEEEEH!"
Guys, I've played every single Fire Emblem game there is and I promise there's nothing like this scene in the entire franchise, it was so damn good I couldn't believe my eyes. This was peak.
Going for that Haku and Zabuza death
*_"You were always by my side. The least I could do is to be beside you at the end... I wished I could have gone from where you have gone... How I wish I could've joined you there..."_*
5:22 wait how does ivy crit twice with 0% critchance?
RNJesus, bro
Because Best Girl
Ikr
I hope they come back in one of the dlcs
I don't pity either gress or zephia they're murderus hounds that completely indifferent of everything even life.
Contracted cutscenes aside. They hit these In-engine ones out of the park. Definitely a testament to the superb model work and mocap.
I got to this yesterday great scene and all I was so happy I Packed them up 🤣🤣 Mauvier died and I reunited all of them
Genius
Anyone know what song plays through the end of this cutscene?
"Dreaming of Family"
I finished this chapter yesterday and that last scene of Griss and Zephia made me cry, as well Marni's death 😭. Even bad ass characters have a soft side and painful memories like everyone. I was hoping to recruit the 3 of them...Oh well!! There's always Fire Emblem Heroes. I hope they appear soon in the game, especially Zephia at a summer event. And what happened to Zephia's hair while she was lying on the ground? I guess even Nintendo's animation has its flaws!! 😆😅
I wish he was playable 😭 #best FE villain
*sigh*
I wish that they were written better through the story to deserve such a touching death scene.
But I cannot deny that it’s certainly a good one.
I am kind of happy that their alternative counterparts got to be what they never realised they were.
I find it difficult to hate characters, especially the ones that are dying.
It’s ironic, I always wish they could live a better life with the wisdom they get in their dying moments.
Griss’ last words cap it off.
The reference to death and sleep together is rather prominent in this game, this last one caps it off.
“You drifted off already?” Like she was finally at peace.
“Guess I will too, no reason to stick around without her.”
Like he was hanging on so she wouldn’t go alone.
“Nothing hurts me, anymore.”
Like how the worst has happened so he’ll be alright passing on.
They did such a good job w character development of the hounds tbh, best part of the game
after seeing this deat tscene i get the feeling that zephia was not really so evil i mean griss was abadoned by his parents jsut like marni so i think they just wanted , like zephia, a family, my hoes is since the last dlc wave gives us 3 more cvhars tio recruit, my hopes is somehow we get marni, griss and zephia, who all somehow come back to life, as playable chars
They were twisted. Before at the end, they.....
ok at 6:26 if the emblem's is Eirika then who's the one attacking with Veyle?
Don’t eiphram and eirika share their ring ?
they do
Eirika's twin brother
Kinda sad but still well deserved.
When when killed, Griss is still a masochist to the end.
So i played the dlc i know its a yesr late but yes they return only personality wise different
So much feels. Honestly those that think this games story doesn't have depth didn't play past the intro....
Finally they died After running away 36 Times for no reason
7:33 SAVAGE
How is Veyle criting with 0% chance of critical?
6:40 This line almost reads like a joke. xD
5:12 how
This was the best scene in the game. Could care less for the heros this time around tbh.
Wish this was a villain story.
The feeling is mutual
Well, Veyle and Alear used to be part of the villains and from my perspective are among the hardest bosses of the game, at least in normal mode.
Why is no one questioning Ivy critting with the 0%?
...why did this scene make me feel bad? arent i supposed to hate these guys
1:07 “Wormed your way back in, huh? I never thought you’d come out on top, Defect.”
Maybe if you and Zephia didn’t leave Evil-Personality Veyle alone with the other heroes and not witnessing the heroes dying and assume it all went to plan, and instead disregarded her order to return to Sombron after Evil Veyle took over Regular Veyle, you could’ve stopped Regular Veyle from breaking the helmet and expelling her evil personality for good, especially since the helmet was cracked. Apparently, Zephia and Griss decided to pull off a Dr. Evil.
Scott: Wait, aren't you even gonna watch them? They could get away!
Dr. Evil: No, no, no. I'm going to leave them alone and not actually witness them dying, I'm just gonna assume it all went to plan. What?
Scott: I have a gun, in my room. You give me five seconds, I'll get it, I'll come back down here, BOOM, I'll blow their brains out!
Dr. Evil: Scott, you just don't get it, do you? You don't.
How did you get a crit with Ivy with 0%
Hacks. His engage attacks crit as well when they can't.
At least Marni and Mauvier accepted their redemptions. It's a shame that Marni sacrificed herself to free Veyel from her dark self
Marni was REALLY late to accept hers.
Too bad we hardly know anything about them. Just bad guys with little backstory.
Which honestly is my main gripe with the game tbh. Villains don't have much weight imo.
Pfft, compared to other modern FEs, this game's villains are legendary.
@@CountShaman no not really. Villains are palpable imo and that's fine because the game is fun AF while the story is kinda Shonen-esque. Still love the game but not necessarily because the story. It's just an added benefit.
@@Meracog I mean, I would still raher have this than whatever Validar and Garon is but ok.
@@CountShaman I guess I'd agree but you at least know of and or about them. The Hounds In particularly get to me because you learn hardly anything about them. Sombron and Veyle were passable as villains. Though I still liked the game don't get that misunderstood.
Though bringing up old villains I feel is pretty redundant.
The DLC fixes that.
How
Zephia, don’t compare Veyle to Sombron or the other Veyle, she’s nothing like them or you!
Hope we get mage dragon in fe heros cuz she looks cool and in the app game can get any dead character.. good or bad.. just hope she's free unit though.
I don't feel bad for her and I don't forgive her.
The death scenes in this game are hilarious, why does everyone take 5 years to actually kick the bucket
Oh no they’re dead
Anyways last week
The musical choice I am no fan of it,it's not emotional and it doesn't work with the scene
I prefer Requiem or silent ground from Blazing Blade it would have been more sad