@Cole the company doesn't really rely on Linus and other non-affiliated reviewers exist. Just watch his and other reviews if you want a non-biased view on the laptop
Weeell, okay, playing Devil's Advocate: Linus becoming a shareholder for Framework doesn't BY ITSELF mean he's "backing Right to Repair", it means he's funding a company with a Right to Repair ethic. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, but again, BY ITSELF, it's a capitalistic way of solving things. Actually backing Right to Repair means lobbying legislators to enshrine a _Right_ to Repair. EDIT: Huh, so apparently despite the _two_ fully capitalised "BY ITSELF"s, people still think I'm saying Linus has never ever supported Right to Repair in any other way. Don't know what to say, are people just trying to get offended?
@@lodgin The capitalistic way of solving things is almost always the best way of solving things. Legislation requires enforcement and controls and therefore costs money and will make always some people unhappy.
@@austinkutz3759 he probably didn't have to publish a video on LTT, he could have just 'announced' it on a site that is less read. He chose to make a video that would be seen by a lot more people.
I was ready to buy one today after seeing Louis Rossmann's vid on this but I prefer a 15" screen and I have to have a discrete graphics card as I use it for video editing. As soon as you guys make that happen count me in. I've repaired thousands of PC's and laptops in my day and this move to fully integrated, disposable systems is one of the worst trends I've ever seen and it's time for it to come to an end.
With you there on the screen - I have a beefy desktop for graphics, video, etc. that I can access with Parsec if I need the power, but I really want a lightweight Linux machine with a large 1440p screen and outstanding battery life for writing code on the go, but they are surprisingly hard to find.
@@nathanupchurch7549 Have you looked at Chromebooks? I've rooted a lot of those to linux and they have amazing battery life. The Google Pixelbook has a very high res screenbut it's not that big. There has to be someone that did a high res 15" screen you could do something with.
I'm fine with 13" screens but need 2in1 functionality and a touch screen. But I'm very hopeful that the framework team will eventually produce those options.
@@RHelenius it isn't supposed to be a economy lesson. It's supposed to be them being open about their investment while explaining basics on why they want to invest.
I don't think its that they don't care. I think its more that their business model is based on planned obsolescence. They want you to replace your machine instead of repairing or upgrading it.
@@ashanarchy7255 I’m not even sure about that-most people own laptops for around 5 years, which to me goes well beyond the time frame of planned obsolescence. It’s IMO more to do with economies of scale- it’s probably a lot easier to mass produce a laptop that has 6 possible variants than one that could have dozens.
I agree. I was very much concerned about the profitability and sustainability of framework, not a very profitable business model to survive. The push from Linus will definitely change the situation. I see that linus has always devoted to push the tech industry forward with the power of media. I am glad to see that he is pushing this by involving with the industry. This is very likely to change the whole tech industry.
This is one of the best disclaimers I've ever seen, and a really useful breakdown of business models for physical-goods companies! Thanks for letting us know, and for backing such a neat company!
14:53 my girlfriend keeps using mine as a coaster. She's accelerating my eventual request for a schematic. When that day comes, if they tell me to get authorized to get one ... you all will be the first to know
you say as he baby talks to his audience to try to explain a concept he believes nobody will understand and boils it down to pretty pre-k level explaination
@@datguynooneknowsbutthenatw6228 Fact of the matter is... most people don't understand it. It's why most people are functionally poor. There is no financial education in the U.S., UK or Canada. Businesses are black boxes that money just disappears into, and stuff sometimes comes back out. So, Linus takes the time to explain it in detail for those who simply aren't going to understand what he's talking about. ... There's also the legal component. He needs to spell out in detail exactly what he's doing, so there's no ambiguity which could be abused in any potential lawsuits. A bit of public CYA, if you will.
Arguably even more important is the industry support, hopefully getting them more inroads with manufacturers, which I assume is exponentially more important for a modular system like frameworks'
Really great content and of all the companies Linus could support this one is an absolute no brainer. The conflict of intrest issues were covered well and I think LTT has enough consumer trust to deal with that. I rarely use laptops except from my company so I wont be jumping on this product but I can see a ton of appeal. Ironic that ifixit is the sponsor but this is the one piece of modern electronics that really doesn't need their kits.
@@ccibinel I will say this piece of tech needs their kid more since is the kind of tech you will feel comfortable opening up and replacing things. With the others you don't even bother because you know they make it a living hell for you and you ether buy a new one or just take it to a repair shop at best.
@@SIPEROTH Realistically anyone not comfortable doing the simple field replacements this laptop allows wont buy one. While I'd love to see tons of these sold it will not be the industry norm.
From a journalist: You handled this ethics discussion really well, and recusing yourself from laptop editorial decisions and production is 100% the right move. You did the right thing here, Linus, good job.
I really admire Linus quite a bit. He has taken a passion for technology and entertainment and turned it into good paying jobs for 30+ people and financial stability for himself and his family. Now he is using his wealth to invest in a company he believes in. He has surrounded himself with a talented team and they consistently produce quality content that is always entertaining and informative.
I also appreciate that his investment is going into the same side of things that got him where he is. Granted, I have no say in the matter, but I'd be a little upset if he were to invest in a company that was very anti right to repair in a similar way.
I am awaiting for a laptop with 3060 or 3070 laptop for Data Science and AI Simulation and algorithms for big data visualization. I was thinking of going for Ryzen 6900HX or i7 12th Gen. I am also working on Network technologies and learning Firewall and cybersecurity over Cloud. What would be the best option for a working professional who also needs atleast 3-4 hours of battery life? Budget: 2 lac INR Should I wait longer for another laptop or go for anything that's around for 2000-2200 USD? Looking for usually 17.3 inch or so for better screen as I am working on large data and visualizations. Small screen makes tough to work on large models Anything best value for money under 2 lac? 17.3 inches only i7 12th gen or Ryzen 9 GPU based task moderate to high. I do not need 3080 or 3070 TI. Screen quality = QHD
I am EXTREMLY excited for this! It'll teach people how computers/laptops work on the hardware end of things, enthusiasts will have fun swapping and building AND everything to do with "right to repair" comes to fruition. I desperately hope this becomes a smashing success!
Is it really that difficult? I figured out how to replace parts just by looking up how to? My education in college only covered software side of IT. Not replacing, upgrading or fixing hardware. And it wasn't needed since I learnt that by just using the internet? Why can't most people with interest in this do the same? This isn't that difficult is it?
I felt the same way about programming 6502 in assembly language. Using address lines to load a byte from a memory address onto the accumulator. Using opcodes to manipulate memory and ultimately putting it together to interface with the OS and show the output to the screen, on these simple computers by manipulating a simple frame buffer. I guess you thing also teaches people about computers. ROFL.
Videos like this one and the revenue updates really speak to Linus' integrity as a businessman, public figure, and leader. I hope to start a SaaS business of my own in the near future, and I hope I can be half the boss that you are, Linus.
A person talking about how they are so impressed with a product that they bought a part of the company is pretty common, but I guess it's better than flogging a product without disclosing their business dealings with the company. It's just not refreshing.
@@TheBigsam51 "Hey, Linus, check out this new prototype - it's out only one and it cost a lot, but it's really cool" -"Cool! Let me see" *Drops it and shatters it to a thousand pieces*
Man call me a nerd but I totally love this 'behind the scenes' type of business breakdown. I'd love more stuff like this too even though I know it's not completely normal for the typical videos.
Used to be more common with older videos but as time has gone on it's been more let's shove videos out the door which there is nothing wrong with that but as he has grown it seems like the indepth portion has taken a back seat but it's nice to see this video
Wow this video does such a good job of showing how much work and money goes into running a physical product business. It's all of the same stuff I've dealt with when running my own store.
Even companies that are solo self employed, and non-product selling (services etcetc) there is a lot of overhead, maintenance of tools, etc. Might be some difference in profit at the end, but thats always more of a country to country (an state to state) difference. LTT did a good job with explanation :)
Kinda reminds me of gaming companies that mostly doesnt need to deal with all that anymore and still wanna make games more expensive., but that's another question entirely.
@@DPedroBoh They still have to deal with cuts from their publisher, the platform they are selling on, refunds, oh, and the big one - taxes. But the actual reason they keep trying to increase their profit margin so bad is that their investors don't want to see sustainable profit, they want to see growth. It's the reason why if a sequel to a game makes the same amount as its prequel, it's seen as a failure despite being profitable. It's also the reason why Nintendo's Super Mario Run was seen as a failure, despite also being profitable. I've mostly stopped playing AAA games in favor in indie titles as those are still developed and managed by passionate people.
I bought one and it's very nice. They made some design choices that I would have done differently, but in terms of construction, it's really nice. No complaints at all. I'm thrilled this company came along.
He legally had to tell us. All these kids in the comments that think Linus is a chill internet friend are so misguided. He's a businessman that was your clicks and views and likes to make more money.
@@johntrussell7228 I mean...that's what CEOs are for. That's the whole point, to make as much money as possible through enjoyable content. And fyi not every business man is a dickhead
The honesty in this video was astonishing, I remember listening to your thoughts a few WAN shows ago and I didn't expect you to go through with it. This is awesome, Linus.
To be clear, this wasn't in advance. He'd talked about it on WAN show in advance and got some real-time opinion during the stream, but this video is now after the fact. That doesn't change that the transparency is indeed refreshing, just a minor difference to what you said.
Ethical would be to not invest. There are no ethical codes that talk about how to handle conflicts of interest you have purposely embraced short of to say you should get out of them quickly. Disclosure is for people that have found themselves in an unintentional conflict of interest (realizing that a relative is in your direct reporting chain at work), and industries where it's economically unavoidable and the risk is low (real estate agencies, large organizations that have firewalls in place to mitigate the COI).
As per linus, their business teams know nothing about the content and the editorial team is bereft of the knowledge of the sponsors to maintain editorial sanctity(?). He has a video with steve from gamersnexus on this.
@@tayloraldridge3063 ua-cam.com/video/Gkb87gjLyPg/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/kdOBFu-mYpw/v-deo.html ua-cam.com/video/k6O9VdFzI7s/v-deo.html There are 3 videos! The 2nd one may or may not have what I said but it rounds up the discussion into the application of said discussion. Cheers.
This just feels right. The right to repair movement needs a legitimate leader in this space and Framework with Linus are taking a big leap forward. Well done and good luck!
@@jj481012 Luis is great but he sadly does not have the same pull and reach like Linus has. Thankfully they're cooperating so both can throw their strengths into the mix and hopefully ensure we'll some positive changes both in legislation and otherwise.
@@RAHelllord idk about that. Louis now has lobbyists and is aiming at lawmakers directly. Maybe it's not how many people you need vs which people you need. Hopefully Linus and Louis are two sides of the same coin. Linus can do a lot to educate the public, while Louis works hard to push things through the legislative process.
@@jj481012 louis is fighting the micro, with specific states he focuses on, along with kyle weins at ifixit. Their strat is the domino method. Linus is more of the macro game, as a solid leader to the masses, which may help at voting time. both are needed.
The most telling thing about Framework is that they were willing to send a review unit to Louis Rossmann, who is known for tearing companies who send him stuff a new one. THAT'S having confidence in your product.
@@dhkatz_ Sheds some serious light on just how well thought out the laptop repairability is. And, Louis raised a few concerns, which were answered by framework in the comments. Real top tier stuff. For anyone who doesn't want to watch the whole thing, the laptop has 5 extra screws, and the included screwdriver works for the 2 types of screw heads in the laptop. In the body, there's screws with the same head that are different lengths, and they're all color coded.
As someone who works in PR. My head is spinning at how good this is. Getting in front of ethical/PR nightmares while at the same time transparently backing the company you are invested in. I keep thinking about it and the list goes on. Bravo!
They talked about all of this weeks before in a wan show lol. Funnily enough, he had done a strawpoll then asking if he should invest and it ended up being a no(iirc it was 70%/30%). Maybe he did another poll some other week?
Rewatching this now and seeing linus mention Gary and Tarran as people he looked up to/respected industry friends is funny now that he's hired both of them
with Linus as share owner in the firm and reviewing them closely, they are assured not to mess up. their R&D shld be grateful with any input or very nervous if they mess up.
That is one of the best breakdowns of how investment works that I've ever seen. I hope this video ends up in both business and ethics classes in every major university... Assuming Linus follows through. Not that I think he won't, but he's only human.
I remember the stream where Linus was trying to get approval from the audience on if he should invest in framework or not, I definitely support your decision Linus.
And after that stream i thought he would have chosen to support them in a different way. But i support his decision nevertheless, as long as this makes the RTR movement gain more traction .
@@marijnl If companies like Framework succeed in the free market, an "RTR movement" won't even be necessary anymore and repair-unfriendly companies like Apple would either keep digging their own graves or naturally adapt to the rising demand of modular mobile devices.
@@Peter_Parker361 He's also just generally diversifying his income streams incase the channel loses momentum or something catastrophic happens like losing the channel. These things are unlikely right now but it's still worth doing.
@@theblackswordsman9951 True, it's a common misconception that successful businessmen like Linus are just sitting on a big pile of money that gets bigger and bigger by itself. If they don't constantly keep investing their profits and diversifying their assets, they won't stay successful for long... People who think that this investment move was purely or primarily an altruistic act of supporting the "right" to repair, are completely lost but I don't think that many people here believe that's the case and Linus himself was actually very transparent about it.
@@Peter_Parker361 They should rather dig in their recycling policy. And associated -bins. Apple is quite good at marketing it's environmental friendlyness, until the consumer has the product in his hands. How it is recycled after that, they leave the authorities of the respective region to figure out.
12:25 Imagine having an idol in your industry early in your career, then later making it so big in the industry that you HIRE that idol to work for you. That's just kinda surreal to think about, but super freakin cool for Linus.
Yea I agree, I just have envy of 200k to invest and the opportunity to get that 200k in such an exciting startup! (and the finances to be able to risk it all)
He literally explained the entire process of not just investing, but how investments help a company grow! Now I finally understand what an Initial Public Offering is.
Appreciate not only disclosing your position, but also acknowledging some of the more sticky aspects of this tie up. Also, love LTTs continual mention of environmentally friendly packaging. Makes us as consumers more aware of it, and hopefully encourages more companies to stop using plastic.
This channel is one of the best on the entirety of UA-cam and its so impressive how genuine everyone who has been involved in helping it grow has stayed over so many years.
As someone in the repair business, seeing Linus support this has me excited. Also, love the transparency. Though being a long term viewer, Linus has Always been transparent and up front with us. I am looking forward to seeing how this new venture goes. :) to a successful and fruitful future!
Seeing this decision to me proves how honest you are in taking a jump like this, and being so public about it shows your true colors even more. One of the few YT channels I can trust! Excited to watch for many more years too come.
That's not a concern. That's a limited series product. But not on wallpaper but behind every component, so when people remove them Sad Linus guilt trips them. 🤣🤣
Honestly, mad respect for going through with this and putting your money where your mouth is. I have already decided that for my next laptop it's gonna be framework. additionally, mad respect for framework as well, teaming up with you is a pretty wild move that shows their dedication to the cause instead of just a pr move.
On one hand, Linus's transparency regarding his investor status makes me admire and respect him more. On the other hand, I'm also a little more suspicious of him, wondering why he's carrying around that much American cash on him all the time /s
I dont think people realize how incredible it is to have a creator with Linus' level of transparency and honesty. Hats off to you Mr.Sebastian, you do it right.
The last line of the video is so true: "The only reason other companies can't do this, and Framework proved it, it's because they don't care". Smart of Linus to put it at the end of the video, but wholeheartedly support Framdwork and Linus' vision. I'm looking to buy a laptop sometime this year or next year, if Framework releases a $2.5-3k AMD laptop, I'll buy it on the day it launches ❤️
I'd say it's more about them not wanting to than not caring. They care about their profits so why sell people something they can fix and upgrade for 10 years when they can sell them a new laptop every 5 years?
@@WMartinNI exactly. Whenever a business does or doesn't do something, the answer is almost always money. That's why people are talking about Framework, because they're doing it for the consumer.
@@WMartinNI or the same laptop with minor upgrades, because, why innovate when you have an idea that sells and you can drown out the competition through corporate lobbying
Looks like an awesome concept, but this caring business model will only be "proven" if they can make it into profitable/viable business. I hope it does.
Honestly, very impactful, he better hold this position or that will be sent to him until the end of time. I do wish the actual screenshot was in the video, but it feels good to see that.
I really love Framework as a company. I've got to get one of these laptops! Since the expansion cards are USB-C I have some cool ideas for DIY module inserts.
When your "legal obligations" are the main theme of the video, and not hidden somewhere in the small print, that's a sign of an organisation with integrity
@@bb55555555 I disagree because anyone who has watched LTT for a while knows how they feel about right to repair, and consumer friendly tech. It's probably not strictly what a media company should do to remain impartial, but you can still choose whether to trust them or not. At least they can wear this decision with pride.
I’m glad that Linus decided to invest in Framework, we need more companies that will go all in on right to repair, and making sure Framework will be able to survive is a big part of bringing the market towards that
@@Mikhael03 youtube is crap these days for small and big creators alike Edit: and the last one is a fricking bit that leads to a link I'm not clicking *AND IT MOCKS YOU*
@@sys-administrator u tellin me as a normal person u r going to solder your board yourself? And just because they did one thing not as u wanted doesn't mean they they dont care, by saying they dont support right to repair u put them on one level with companies like apple
Given Linus's reputation and dedication and transparency, I would have zero issues with him continuing to review notebooks. I truly believe he is capable of putting his biases aside, or admitting them when they come up.
Yeah, still he'd better not to. I would've zero issues as well, but there always will be people that will not see it the same way as we. Also, that's probably illegal.
I think it would be good if he covers only the ones he is excited about. Trashing a competitor is where you usually get into trouble, not talking them up.
A conflict of interest can have impacts even when all parties don't realize it's occurring. Even if he's generally positive about a product doesn't mean that his perspective is not skewed.
If more people approached business with the same integrity that Linus did, the world would work for a lot more people. Good luck in your venture Linus.
because its pointless (have always been the downfall with modular gadgets) Noone is gonna change ports over and over again and if the laptop breaks majority would buy a new laptop simply because they wants something new. Even if they released greatly improved components majority of people would not go and buy the upgrade kit instead keep the laptop as it is and give it to someone who needs it then buy a new one. What the market needs is companies who dont try to make it hard to repair their products and provide the parts required. not modularity. With that said its a wonderful product and they got the repair ability but the market is not asking for modular laptops
Same thing for phones vis-a-vis Fairphone. Samsung or Apple could make a repairable phone that doesn't rely on exploitation and that's more refined and cheaper than a Fairphone, they just don't want to.
I'll be honest, at first when you reviewed this laptop I was thinking: "Oh, another one of those "diy" laptop companies that will inevitably shut down or become the same as every other manufacturer in the end due to corporate greed." We have seen it all before, after all. However, seeing you willing to take the plunge AND having full rights to publicly abandon them and cover why gives me a lot of confidence in this business. I now fully expect that this business will become a very big name in the years to come and I look forward to seeing what they do in the future, as I'm sure you will cover it.
@@TECH3_ Problem is Dell tends to just not care about the consumer space as it doesn't make nearly as much money as what matters to them: business and enterprise.
Yeah, I don't think he represented the amount of trust LTT viewers have on Linus' opinion... and as long as framework backs it up, then I see no problem. hope everything works for framework, I myself am seriously considering one since I've been looking for a smaller laptop than my M15 to take to school etc.
i don't get why this concept fails to be profitable. even if they can't sell a new model every single year.. not being able to up themselves every year because they hit their max height with laptops. only gives them room to branch out into other stuff like phones. i truly believe one day the apple like trash e-waste generation will fuck them in the ass someday. because they literally make tons of money by creating trash piles for the world. if they had to recycle every single fucking thing they put out there. they would be a lot less profitable. and they would choose the framework route.
@@TECH3_ The amount of money needed to make Dell actually interested in a new market segment is WAY higher than the amount needed to keep Framework viable and growing. "Failed" for Dell means it would not be profitable enough, quickly enough, to keep them interested. "Failed" for Framework will mean actual failure. I think Wendell pointed that out on the Level1Techs video on the thing a day or two ago.
I actually really appreciate Linus giving us the big picture on how the business works, and where it overlaps with the tech industry. Linus is more transparent about his business operations with his viewers than I honestly would expect from someone in his position.
Agreed. He's had quite a bit of experience in the industry, and it's great that he's explaining it to those of us who don't have that level of experience.
@@ILoveHandles Well it was a severe oversimplification of production in a Capitalist market and financing growth. I would not use this as info for how to start a business. Linus has a tool that isn't afforded to most businesses. He has an ability to market things and get more eyes on them for absolutely free which is something your new business would not be able to do in the same manner. Someone just looking to start a business shouldn't really be looking that far in to the future of the business. You have to get the thing up and off the ground before any investors will be interested. No, if someone is wanting to start a business and simply hasn't because they don't have the knowledge. This isn't the knowledge you need. I'm not saying its bad information, but your company has to go a LONG way before you can ever dream of paying off loans with stock in your company. So not really starting a business information at all.
@@darktheories1758 While I don't deny any of what you said about his unique position for generating attention at low cost, or any of the things like trading stock being more a late term, big business matter, what I was specifically referring to was more directed at where he was talking about operational costs and production/distribution cycles, profit margins, etc, which I maintain are very relevant concerns to any business at any level.
This level of clarity and transparency is so refreshing. I wish more content creators, and really everyone was more like this. Props to your respectability Linus
Yeah.... unfortunately just because he is transparent about it does not make this a good idea. I don't quite get it. He could have gushed about the product without being economically invested in it. That'd probably do more good especially if they didn't need the money. He may be looking to make money off of this.... but yeah.... that is problematic. The transparency is great though. Let everyone know what is going on and let them make their own decisions. I very much disagree with this move, but that's just me. To each their own.
That bezel just popping off so easily made me unexpectedly excited. As an IT technician, screen replacement is probably one of the most annoying processes because the bezel never comes off as easy as every video males it seem.
That and it always feels like a few plastic clips make it their mission to insure they'll never go back in the latch they originally sat in. Either cause the WiFi antenna band sifted or because the clip didn't survive the opening process since you accidentally used just a smidge too much force.
It's held on with magnets. You can't get any cooler. As long as you have an average IQ you can fix that laptop. In fact, I'd wager that if you can get in the army you can fix that laptop. (Edit: and I want to be clear that I'm not saying people in the army are stupid, it's just the only organization that has a stated minimum IQ for entry)
I wonder if I'll make you wet your pants when I tell you this part (which you might already know if you've been paying attention): _The screen isn't glued to the top case. Screws only._
ASUS VivoBooks make me want to throw them at the wall. Also the new cheap HP laptops have the panel glued to the top lid. Which meaning you have to risk bending or breaking the top lid assembly to get the screen off.
@@carlanwray8718 "Stated minimun IQ to get in" that cuts out the bottom 1/3 of the nations bell curve making your average soldier who has a lower intelligence demanding job likely having a higher IQ than the average citizen. You may not be trying to say they are dumb buuuuut you did and you are wrong lol
BB all the youtube channels you watch are in the business of making you a product. Linus being open about it IS admirable. He is good at his job and seems to be sincere. Leave it at that,
I lost it at the "Linus's Commitments" part, was not expecting that closeup. That being said, I'm super enthralled with Framework's mission and excited to Linus backing them.
If there's one thing I've learned over my years of watching LTT it's that Linus is, at the core, a hardware nerd. Therefore I both understand the wish to invest in Framework and that even with that, he'd still be excited about cool laptops from other manufacturers. Framework succeeding means those other manufacturers at least taking a look at making their devices more modular and perhaps laptops might get some sort of modular standard just like the ATX standard which helped make the PC the dominant computer it is today.
I really love how honest and transparent Linus runs LTT he is always up and front about the business. He keeps a good balance of “yeah we are a company” and “intimate persona”
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Give it some room and time bruh, they just barely launch the highly potential new standard for portable tech industry. Exotic/enthusiast features would be awesome but they had to win the heart of mainstream consumers first.
If there was ever a product I wanted to see you invest in, it was this one. Hopefully with LTTs support, this product can breakthrough where others have failed.
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I'm not trying to be a jerk but their 1000 dollar laptop can be had in the same configuration for 500. Honestly look it up. I get that people want to repair their devices but even not taking into account repair costs its still cheaper to buy a different one and then buy another if it breaks.. hell, buy the newer model. The expansion slots are all usbc.. you can do that with just a dongle on any other laptop. Hes being transparent? Is he? He hasn't brought up their DOUBLE price. I feel like that's why half this video is about the price of running a business. What is the fucking point of this laptop? Environmental? Fine then say that. This is the price of environmental consideration, but that's it. You pay twice as much to be able to repair it MAYBE unless it's water and were still not considering the price of parts and labor, remember this is compared to just buying two for the same price. People are applauding that this reviewer of laptops invested in a laptop company? Guys, are we this stupid?
@@spraynardkruger6426 People are applauding that this laptop reviewer invested in a laptop company and made that information very public and made a promise to keep his integrity as a reviewer. The point of this laptop is that its configurable, environmentally friendly, and pro right to repair. They did say that. It's not made to be an absolute performance powerhouse. If it's a bad deal for you, then don't buy it. Edit: Also, people are able to have priorities and thoughts other than yours without being stupid. Please at least try to have have open mind before throwing out insults. What's stupid is thinking that your opinion is the best opinion without considering what anyone else has to say. If you don't understand why it's so expensive, just say that you don't see how that makes sense.
I wouldn't quite call this level Integrity, I'd call this basic human decency. Integrity is being in a room during a hot mic situation and still holding firm on your principles, when for all you know you're in private. Yes I have a particular person in mind, it was the Tim Pool on Joe Rogan hot mic. Still a pretty popular clip if it's still around.
@@DSiren His integrity is his level of willingness to go this far when deciding how and how far he will go to disclose his financial involvement and the level of honesty and the code of ethics he’s set for himself here, when covering this product as well as others occupying the same space in the market.
@@FrozenHaxor no. He talked about it in depth for one of his WAN shows. He isn’t doing this for the money because it would be a way safer move on his part not to do anything. I believe in Linus.
Seeing Linus give his full support to a brand like this I feel really gives the tech community a lot of confidence in Framework. I can't think of another youtuber/influencer whose opinion on tech I respect more, nor one that has been so transparent to the fanbase. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these computers in the near future, hopefully there's an AMD variant at that time.
Agreed, on both fronts, AMD have somewhat earned my respect and trust with the work they have being doing on AMDGPU opensource graphics stuff, and make better processors across the board for all things than the (X86 based) competition now (especially on power draw to performance, which matters in a laptop) and while I don't always agree with him/his team/ their video choices damn if they don't do a good job of telling it how it really is most of the time. I'm also hoping him/ his team do their magic on a 'MNT Reform' a similar repairable premium laptop concept, but with opensource being the priority over outright performance, on paper its somewhere around a Pi3-Pi4, which is great for lots of tasks, maybe even everything you do that isn't gaming in theory at least - plus it has a trackball (and I like a good trackball)... If/When I actually need to replace my now stupidly old Toughbooks it will be with this Framework or the MNT device as it stands...
Linus is the kind of guy to make decisions that we'd all like to *think* we'd make, but put in his shoes we probably wouldn't. Linus, here's to you always representing the damn best of the tech community 🍻
I really hope I would. But to be honest, I don't think I'd put it in tech... I'd probably found a charity, and knowing me, somehow bankrupt it and lose all the money...
Having followed your journey since the very early days, all I've got to say is: good for you, Linus. People see your ~14 mil subscribers but they forgot your countless, sleepless nights. If you can invest into something like that while keeping your integrity, then by all means go for it. If there's one guy we can trust, it's you.
I never comment on UA-cam videos but this deserves it for the algorithm of interactions. Cheers on the complete transparency. I just graduated law school and this screams of ethics and integrity.
A small advise, I was looking at the website and it said my region (Germany) was not available yet. I can't stretch this enough but framework should look into selling in this market as soon as possible. Barring other issues Germany (and the DACH-region as a whole), has a huge diy market and is extremely environmentally conscious and something like the Framework notebooks are definitely needed here.
Yuup. Went on their website to look at it, but they don't have a german keyboard layout atm. But I'm so looking forward to their products in the future and would love to buy one, if it fits my needs.
I wish i could say the same about Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia, but people here are too infatuated with their Macbooks, for a DIY centered laptop to take hold :(
I really love that Linus so passionately uses his audience and financial resources to help grow a company that is literally built around right to repair!
Or, he is lying and just taking advantage of amateur engineers that don't understand anything about software support. The company will go under in a year or less, linus will own some of their patents, and sell them for more than he went in for. It's a classic move by unethical business investors that take advantage of moronic engineers.
Let me be fair here. Disclaimers are cool sometimes, especially when they're part of a greater good. You guys are just the right kind of crazy to really make the difference you want to see and I believe that the need for such a disclaimer may even amplify the impact of Framework no matter how obscure or convoluted that disclaimer is. Go and review every last product with as much bias as you can muster, and you will be all but guaranteed to be rewarded much more than you expect. People will most definitely dislike you and possibly even try to take you down, but you have a community far bigger than any controversy anyone could bring up behind you in this journey. Don't give up. Never give up. I would say don't drop it, but...
The way I see it the framework laptop should now become the gold standard it's not biased when it's the best Compare every laptop to it and I'm surure that's got to eventually start making companies change I hope
The amount of confidence the Framework team has overall is astounding. These people definitely are not afraid and the publicity they're receiving from their fresh ideas I'm positive are doing nothing but increasing their confidence moving forward. I'm amped to see what they have planned for the future, and I can totally see myself buying a laptop from them whenever I decide to retire my MacBook.
This is totally cool, just so long as they don't let you make any heatsinks :)
😆
Yeeeaaa Ben Heck is watching LTT.
@Cole did you even finish the video
@Cole not really.
@Cole the company doesn't really rely on Linus and other non-affiliated reviewers exist. Just watch his and other reviews if you want a non-biased view on the laptop
Linus backing Right to Repair is a major win considering his large audience.
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Weeell, okay, playing Devil's Advocate: Linus becoming a shareholder for Framework doesn't BY ITSELF mean he's "backing Right to Repair", it means he's funding a company with a Right to Repair ethic. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that, but again, BY ITSELF, it's a capitalistic way of solving things. Actually backing Right to Repair means lobbying legislators to enshrine a _Right_ to Repair.
EDIT: Huh, so apparently despite the _two_ fully capitalised "BY ITSELF"s, people still think I'm saying Linus has never ever supported Right to Repair in any other way. Don't know what to say, are people just trying to get offended?
He's backed it multiple times in the past including several videos on it and with other big players in the space
@@lodgin
The capitalistic way of solving things is almost always the best way of solving things.
Legislation requires enforcement and controls and therefore costs money and will make always some people unhappy.
shoulda seen what he did for louis's R2R gofundme, the ltt audience contributed quite a bit
This transparency just gained LTT like a million respect points from me. All youtube companies should be this honest.
I'm not trying to detract from that, but I guarantee you that his lawyer made him publish this video
Not to mention this is a win win situation for us, we get to possibly see the industry take a turn on its stance on obsessive consumerism
@@austinkutz3759 he probably didn't have to publish a video on LTT, he could have just 'announced' it on a site that is less read. He chose to make a video that would be seen by a lot more people.
Techtips turned into accounting tips. Learned more from LTT
@@DemonKyle that's actually completely fair, I hadn't considered that
I was ready to buy one today after seeing Louis Rossmann's vid on this but I prefer a 15" screen and I have to have a discrete graphics card as I use it for video editing. As soon as you guys make that happen count me in. I've repaired thousands of PC's and laptops in my day and this move to fully integrated, disposable systems is one of the worst trends I've ever seen and it's time for it to come to an end.
With you there on the screen - I have a beefy desktop for graphics, video, etc. that I can access with Parsec if I need the power, but I really want a lightweight Linux machine with a large 1440p screen and outstanding battery life for writing code on the go, but they are surprisingly hard to find.
@@nathanupchurch7549 Have you looked at Chromebooks? I've rooted a lot of those to linux and they have amazing battery life. The Google Pixelbook has a very high res screenbut it's not that big. There has to be someone that did a high res 15" screen you could do something with.
Same here, if they add a 15 or 17 inch option with discrete graphics I'm buying one in a heartbeat. Hopefully it has a numpad on it too
@@whocares3132 I haven't done it in a while but I know with the first or second gen Chromebooks I was able to install Ubuntu
I'm fine with 13" screens but need 2in1 functionality and a touch screen. But I'm very hopeful that the framework team will eventually produce those options.
Respect to Linus for literally putting his money where his mouth is and being transparent about it.
i agree. this adds to his rep imo.
I am going to assume no tax deductables is going to be mentioned or amortization. This is below Economy 101. This video is almost a blatant lie.
@@RHelenius okay
@@RHelenius I was trying to figure out how to put that nicely...then I read your comment. Thanks.
@@RHelenius it isn't supposed to be a economy lesson. It's supposed to be them being open about their investment while explaining basics on why they want to invest.
"The only reason other companies don't do this (and Framework proved it) is because they don't care."
Arguably the most impactful line of the video.
Completely agree. Too bad most will miss it as it was the closing line that felt snuck in.
Try not to pay attention to this too tuff. Don't wanna get him canceled by the big heads now. 😉
I don't think its that they don't care. I think its more that their business model is based on planned obsolescence. They want you to replace your machine instead of repairing or upgrading it.
@@ashanarchy7255 I’m not even sure about that-most people own laptops for around 5 years, which to me goes well beyond the time frame of planned obsolescence. It’s IMO more to do with economies of scale- it’s probably a lot easier to mass produce a laptop that has 6 possible variants than one that could have dozens.
I agree. I was very much concerned about the profitability and sustainability of framework, not a very profitable business model to survive. The push from Linus will definitely change the situation. I see that linus has always devoted to push the tech industry forward with the power of media. I am glad to see that he is pushing this by involving with the industry. This is very likely to change the whole tech industry.
Linus' efficiency with computers sometimes makes me forget that he's a really good businessman too.
Honestly this was a really good video, and I kind of hope he makes more business related videos in the future
I feel his business skills are his MAIN thing, and he has applied that to his love of technology.
@@markiep8477 he's been doing tech stuff long before he was running a business
He's a really onest, trusting and crack businessman and a great "computer guy", that's my point of view.
@@mark12358 He sells crack too? (Aw comment edit)
This is one of the best disclaimers I've ever seen, and a really useful breakdown of business models for physical-goods companies! Thanks for letting us know, and for backing such a neat company!
14:53 my girlfriend keeps using mine as a coaster. She's accelerating my eventual request for a schematic. When that day comes, if they tell me to get authorized to get one ... you all will be the first to know
All the best to you Louis, for all of what you do!
A request that sends you on a roller coaster?
You have a girlfriend?
@@stevenm8970 I do. Why?
love your work
I appreciate linus for being a youtuber that is straight up and talks to his audience real talk like an actual adult
We need more adults talking on UA-cam.
@@ligh7foo7 Linus is an adult? Coulda fooled me...
you say as he baby talks to his audience to try to explain a concept he believes nobody will understand and boils it down to pretty pre-k level explaination
Adept at -dropping- all pretenses
@@datguynooneknowsbutthenatw6228 Fact of the matter is... most people don't understand it. It's why most people are functionally poor.
There is no financial education in the U.S., UK or Canada. Businesses are black boxes that money just disappears into, and stuff sometimes comes back out.
So, Linus takes the time to explain it in detail for those who simply aren't going to understand what he's talking about.
... There's also the legal component. He needs to spell out in detail exactly what he's doing, so there's no ambiguity which could be abused in any potential lawsuits. A bit of public CYA, if you will.
Linus backing this company is literally giving a huge monetary support to Right to Repair, indirectly. And that, I do support.
Arguably even more important is the industry support, hopefully getting them more inroads with manufacturers, which I assume is exponentially more important for a modular system like frameworks'
Really great content and of all the companies Linus could support this one is an absolute no brainer. The conflict of intrest issues were covered well and I think LTT has enough consumer trust to deal with that. I rarely use laptops except from my company so I wont be jumping on this product but I can see a ton of appeal. Ironic that ifixit is the sponsor but this is the one piece of modern electronics that really doesn't need their kits.
@@ccibinel I will say this piece of tech needs their kid more since is the kind of tech you will feel comfortable opening up and replacing things. With the others you don't even bother because you know they make it a living hell for you and you ether buy a new one or just take it to a repair shop at best.
Same.
@@SIPEROTH Realistically anyone not comfortable doing the simple field replacements this laptop allows wont buy one. While I'd love to see tons of these sold it will not be the industry norm.
From a journalist: You handled this ethics discussion really well, and recusing yourself from laptop editorial decisions and production is 100% the right move. You did the right thing here, Linus, good job.
You're a journalist? Did you spread CIA propaganda about Hunter Biden's laptop?
Taking ethical advice from a journalist is a terrible idea.
@@Reshiram32Zekrom23 basically self sabotage
He's probably lying.
@@reuploadify Nope he's taking this issue seriously Out of Spite. Sometime doing the correct good thing has ulterior motives.
With the frequency Linus drops things I'd never thought they'd let him hold stocks
This is underrated.
@@ScrinGeneral17 Then rate it lmao
@@alanware6492 9/10
@@ScrinGeneral17 this is underrated. 10/10.
Omg this is good
I really admire Linus quite a bit. He has taken a passion for technology and entertainment and turned it into good paying jobs for 30+ people and financial stability for himself and his family. Now he is using his wealth to invest in a company he believes in. He has surrounded himself with a talented team and they consistently produce quality content that is always entertaining and informative.
I really want to like this, but there’s 69 likes. Nice.
@@Soccerdude7330Official There's over a 100 now. You can come back & up vote this
I also appreciate that his investment is going into the same side of things that got him where he is. Granted, I have no say in the matter, but I'd be a little upset if he were to invest in a company that was very anti right to repair in a similar way.
I am awaiting for a laptop with 3060 or 3070 laptop for Data Science and AI Simulation and algorithms for big data visualization. I was thinking of going for Ryzen 6900HX or i7 12th Gen. I am also working on Network technologies and learning Firewall and cybersecurity over Cloud.
What would be the best option for a working professional who also needs atleast 3-4 hours of battery life?
Budget: 2 lac INR
Should I wait longer for another laptop or go for anything that's around for 2000-2200 USD?
Looking for usually 17.3 inch or so for better screen as I am working on large data and visualizations. Small screen makes tough to work on large models
Anything best value for money under 2 lac?
17.3 inches only
i7 12th gen or Ryzen 9
GPU based task moderate to high. I do not need 3080 or 3070 TI.
Screen quality = QHD
I am EXTREMLY excited for this! It'll teach people how computers/laptops work on the hardware end of things, enthusiasts will have fun swapping and building AND everything to do with "right to repair" comes to fruition. I desperately hope this becomes a smashing success!
I do too!
@@thezikaz couldn't think of anything else lol
Is it really that difficult? I figured out how to replace parts just by looking up how to? My education in college only covered software side of IT. Not replacing, upgrading or fixing hardware. And it wasn't needed since I learnt that by just using the internet?
Why can't most people with interest in this do the same? This isn't that difficult is it?
I felt the same way about programming 6502 in assembly language. Using address lines to load a byte from a memory address onto the accumulator. Using opcodes to manipulate memory and ultimately putting it together to interface with the OS and show the output to the screen, on these simple computers by manipulating a simple frame buffer. I guess you thing also teaches people about computers. ROFL.
@@robertdulany6811 lmao damn RD who instructed you to just put his bits on the pipeline and execute them, this should be illegal *wink* *wink*
Videos like this one and the revenue updates really speak to Linus' integrity as a businessman, public figure, and leader. I hope to start a SaaS business of my own in the near future, and I hope I can be half the boss that you are, Linus.
Linus: needs a laptop
Linus: buy’s part of the company
I mean if i had the money i would XD
It's got that same energy as
Superman: You bought the house back from the bank?
Batman: I bought the bank.
... and still buys the laptop on top.... teehee.
shades of Victor Kiam and Remington ua-cam.com/video/qf22bddvLnc/v-deo.html
@@ccouch713 Me too xd
This level of transparency is so god damn refreshing.
Pls don’t say God name in vain
God fucking damn it
A person talking about how they are so impressed with a product that they bought a part of the company is pretty common, but I guess it's better than flogging a product without disclosing their business dealings with the company. It's just not refreshing.
@@elinoamrichter162 hell bound
it's actually "goddamn" one word papo
Now Linus can finally make use of his dropping skills: durability testing!
😝True
Mr. Patel be like: O_O
The Linus Drop Test, Unconventional and irrational drops in un-related timings for entertainment purposes xD
it's part of the R&D/QA, i'd bet.
@@TheBigsam51 "Hey, Linus, check out this new prototype - it's out only one and it cost a lot, but it's really cool"
-"Cool! Let me see"
*Drops it and shatters it to a thousand pieces*
If this means we'll see more Anthony covering notebooks - I'm happy!
Also, thanks for the business crash course :D
Man call me a nerd but I totally love this 'behind the scenes' type of business breakdown. I'd love more stuff like this too even though I know it's not completely normal for the typical videos.
This.
Yeah he's done one or two before where he talks about running ltt and costs associated with it. Way more interesting than I would have guessed
Used to be more common with older videos but as time has gone on it's been more let's shove videos out the door which there is nothing wrong with that but as he has grown it seems like the indepth portion has taken a back seat but it's nice to see this video
Eta for the LinusBook 5000? Also, they want another investor? :D
I bet they would appreciate some Linux lovin from the one and only L1 Wendell
LTT black AMD edition plz
Shortbook 1
If they do a LinusBook they will have to endorse a special drop protection policy to cover damages. :D
Linus McBoatFace 5000!
Wow this video does such a good job of showing how much work and money goes into running a physical product business.
It's all of the same stuff I've dealt with when running my own store.
Even companies that are solo self employed, and non-product selling (services etcetc) there is a lot of overhead, maintenance of tools, etc. Might be some difference in profit at the end, but thats always more of a country to country (an state to state) difference.
LTT did a good job with explanation :)
Kinda reminds me of gaming companies that mostly doesnt need to deal with all that anymore and still wanna make games more expensive., but that's another question entirely.
@@DPedroBoh They still have to deal with cuts from their publisher, the platform they are selling on, refunds, oh, and the big one - taxes.
But the actual reason they keep trying to increase their profit margin so bad is that their investors don't want to see sustainable profit, they want to see growth. It's the reason why if a sequel to a game makes the same amount as its prequel, it's seen as a failure despite being profitable. It's also the reason why Nintendo's Super Mario Run was seen as a failure, despite also being profitable.
I've mostly stopped playing AAA games in favor in indie titles as those are still developed and managed by passionate people.
I bought one and it's very nice. They made some design choices that I would have done differently, but in terms of construction, it's really nice. No complaints at all. I'm thrilled this company came along.
If I was in a position to invest in Framework, I also would have jumped at the chance. Great stuff Linus.
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Massive props to Linus, he actually cares about this company, and his transparency makes me respect him even more than I already did.
Speaking of care: This video sponsored by fitnesscare+! 😆
2nd comment well done
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He legally had to tell us. All these kids in the comments that think Linus is a chill internet friend are so misguided. He's a businessman that was your clicks and views and likes to make more money.
@@johntrussell7228 I mean...that's what CEOs are for. That's the whole point, to make as much money as possible through enjoyable content. And fyi not every business man is a dickhead
The honesty in this video was astonishing, I remember listening to your thoughts a few WAN shows ago and I didn't expect you to go through with it. This is awesome, Linus.
What did he say
what wan show was that? i thought i listened to all the most recent but i don’t remember them discussing that.
I deeply appreciate every single instance of Linus being open and transparent about his thoughts and motivations
Ethics: such a rarity these days. And letting everyone know - in detail, and in advance? Priceless. And much appreciated. Cheers! :-)
To be clear, this wasn't in advance. He'd talked about it on WAN show in advance and got some real-time opinion during the stream, but this video is now after the fact. That doesn't change that the transparency is indeed refreshing, just a minor difference to what you said.
Ethical would be to not invest. There are no ethical codes that talk about how to handle conflicts of interest you have purposely embraced short of to say you should get out of them quickly. Disclosure is for people that have found themselves in an unintentional conflict of interest (realizing that a relative is in your direct reporting chain at work), and industries where it's economically unavoidable and the risk is low (real estate agencies, large organizations that have firewalls in place to mitigate the COI).
Eh, enough bullshit in the world today. Honesty and transparency? This is the way.
@@dude11579 Make up your mind. It wasn't in advance but he talked to viewers on the WAN show in advance about it?
@@Kandralla Linus is still running a business.. so investing is his way of earning money.
“iFixit…Oh wow, what an appropriate sponsor.”
Scripted segue or not, that was gold.
@Zis co that shit has nothing to do with anything, why post totally irrelevant video links??
As per linus, their business teams know nothing about the content and the editorial team is bereft of the knowledge of the sponsors to maintain editorial sanctity(?). He has a video with steve from gamersnexus on this.
@@rakaboi do you have the link for that video? I believe you, just want to watch it lol
@@tayloraldridge3063 ua-cam.com/video/Gkb87gjLyPg/v-deo.html
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ua-cam.com/video/k6O9VdFzI7s/v-deo.html
There are 3 videos! The 2nd one may or may not have what I said but it rounds up the discussion into the application of said discussion. Cheers.
@@tayloraldridge3063 I think the point they were talking about is at the 21-22 minute mark, ua-cam.com/video/Gkb87gjLyPg/v-deo.html
Linus has raised the bar for each and every influencers. Kudos for such extreme level of transparency!
I'm a huge business nerd and I LOVE the way you explained this. Sending it to some business students I mentor. Thanks for always adding value Linus!
This just feels right. The right to repair movement needs a legitimate leader in this space and Framework with Linus are taking a big leap forward.
Well done and good luck!
Don’t diss my man Louis like that pal 😡
@@jj481012 Luis is great but he sadly does not have the same pull and reach like Linus has. Thankfully they're cooperating so both can throw their strengths into the mix and hopefully ensure we'll some positive changes both in legislation and otherwise.
Implying Rossman is not legitimate?
@@RAHelllord idk about that. Louis now has lobbyists and is aiming at lawmakers directly. Maybe it's not how many people you need vs which people you need.
Hopefully Linus and Louis are two sides of the same coin. Linus can do a lot to educate the public, while Louis works hard to push things through the legislative process.
@@jj481012 louis is fighting the micro, with specific states he focuses on, along with kyle weins at ifixit. Their strat is the domino method. Linus is more of the macro game, as a solid leader to the masses, which may help at voting time. both are needed.
The most telling thing about Framework is that they were willing to send a review unit to Louis Rossmann, who is known for tearing companies who send him stuff a new one. THAT'S having confidence in your product.
That's like sending a lock to LockPickingLawyer
Wow I didn’t even know that. I’m going to have to go watch that now
@@dhkatz_ same of was wondering his take, guess I'll go find out lol.
@@dhkatz_ Sheds some serious light on just how well thought out the laptop repairability is. And, Louis raised a few concerns, which were answered by framework in the comments. Real top tier stuff. For anyone who doesn't want to watch the whole thing, the laptop has 5 extra screws, and the included screwdriver works for the 2 types of screw heads in the laptop. In the body, there's screws with the same head that are different lengths, and they're all color coded.
Yea he really likes it, especially the removal screen bezel.
As someone who works in PR. My head is spinning at how good this is. Getting in front of ethical/PR nightmares while at the same time transparently backing the company you are invested in. I keep thinking about it and the list goes on. Bravo!
They talked about all of this weeks before in a wan show lol. Funnily enough, he had done a strawpoll then asking if he should invest and it ended up being a no(iirc it was 70%/30%). Maybe he did another poll some other week?
Rewatching this now and seeing linus mention Gary and Tarran as people he looked up to/respected industry friends is funny now that he's hired both of them
Linus got so sick with everything out of stock, that he became stockholder himself
You mean "stakeholder"?
Funi pun
@@kartikeygupta8427 customers among others are stakeholders. Investors are stockholders AND stakeholders.
@@kartikeygupta8427 Take a business class
with Linus as share owner in the firm and reviewing them closely, they are assured not to mess up. their R&D shld be grateful with any input or very nervous if they mess up.
That is one of the best breakdowns of how investment works that I've ever seen. I hope this video ends up in both business and ethics classes in every major university... Assuming Linus follows through. Not that I think he won't, but he's only human.
I remember the stream where Linus was trying to get approval from the audience on if he should invest in framework or not, I definitely support your decision Linus.
And after that stream i thought he would have chosen to support them in a different way. But i support his decision nevertheless, as long as this makes the RTR movement gain more traction .
@@marijnl If companies like Framework succeed in the free market, an "RTR movement" won't even be necessary anymore and repair-unfriendly companies like Apple would either keep digging their own graves or naturally adapt to the rising demand of modular mobile devices.
@@Peter_Parker361 He's also just generally diversifying his income streams incase the channel loses momentum or something catastrophic happens like losing the channel. These things are unlikely right now but it's still worth doing.
@@theblackswordsman9951 True, it's a common misconception that successful businessmen like Linus are just sitting on a big pile of money that gets bigger and bigger by itself.
If they don't constantly keep investing their profits and diversifying their assets, they won't stay successful for long...
People who think that this investment move was purely or primarily an altruistic act of supporting the "right" to repair, are completely lost but I don't think that many people here believe that's the case and Linus himself was actually very transparent about it.
@@Peter_Parker361 They should rather dig in their recycling policy. And associated -bins. Apple is quite good at marketing it's environmental friendlyness, until the consumer has the product in his hands. How it is recycled after that, they leave the authorities of the respective region to figure out.
12:25 Imagine having an idol in your industry early in your career, then later making it so big in the industry that you HIRE that idol to work for you. That's just kinda surreal to think about, but super freakin cool for Linus.
Honestly I trust Linus' judgment and his reviews on tech. I feel like he is genuine and invested in his love of tech.
Yea I agree, I just have envy of 200k to invest and the opportunity to get that 200k in such an exciting startup! (and the finances to be able to risk it all)
I can't believe he actually summed up and explained what investing actually is in what 3mins?
Bruh!!! We came here looking for copper, instead we found gold. 🙌🏾
Not really investing it’s more of…
He literally explained the entire process of not just investing, but how investments help a company grow! Now I finally understand what an Initial Public Offering is.
What he explained in 3 minutes, i didn't get until i'd already been watching Shark Tank for like 7 years lol.
And it'such better than his explanation on shortselling on WAN show lol
Appreciate not only disclosing your position, but also acknowledging some of the more sticky aspects of this tie up. Also, love LTTs continual mention of environmentally friendly packaging. Makes us as consumers more aware of it, and hopefully encourages more companies to stop using plastic.
This channel is one of the best on the entirety of UA-cam and its so impressive how genuine everyone who has been involved in helping it grow has stayed over so many years.
As someone in the repair business, seeing Linus support this has me excited. Also, love the transparency. Though being a long term viewer, Linus has Always been transparent and up front with us. I am looking forward to seeing how this new venture goes. :) to a successful and fruitful future!
Really, really refreshing for one of the biggest UA-camrs
The Framework even got Rossman’s seal of approval
Makes you wonder what dirty little secrets he's hiding....
Seeing this decision to me proves how honest you are in taking a jump like this, and being so public about it shows your true colors even more. One of the few YT channels I can trust!
Excited to watch for many more years too come.
We open this investor meeting with a pressing concern: Putting the sad Linus photo as the default background on all the laptops.
That's not a concern. That's a limited series product. But not on wallpaper but behind every component, so when people remove them Sad Linus guilt trips them. 🤣🤣
@@N1lav Or on the front of every component. So as you replace components, you slowly make Linus happier.
Oh wow I never saw shredded paper between the package walls as a padding material before, big fan of that.
Honestly, mad respect for going through with this and putting your money where your mouth is.
I have already decided that for my next laptop it's gonna be framework.
additionally, mad respect for framework as well, teaming up with you is a pretty wild move that shows their dedication to the cause instead of just a pr move.
Madddd as hell dude. Mad
Same, I use laptops for a long time but my next one will be a framework for sure. (well as soon as they have a ryzen version)
I might consider Framework laptop LTT edition :)
I was thinking the same thing
I think that is the best way to show how good these are. If Linus, who has access to literally everything invests and buys it
Your replies are unfortunate
Woah bot central over here!
If you think that wasn't his intention you're a fool
On one hand, Linus's transparency regarding his investor status makes me admire and respect him more.
On the other hand, I'm also a little more suspicious of him, wondering why he's carrying around that much American cash on him all the time /s
Linus Escobar :- U want some ram Boi.... i gottem all. DDr1 to DDr5 what do you need.
prop money. they use it in set for shoots.
@@Mihir.Sarkar Damn
Linus meth tips
I never trusted him. He always was too good to be true! 😄
I dont think people realize how incredible it is to have a creator with Linus' level of transparency and honesty. Hats off to you Mr.Sebastian, you do it right.
Linus: "I could become a brand risk"
Linus: "I hope to introduce them to dbrand" 🤣
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dbrand be smoking weed while doing their marketing plan. absolute respect
D-brand stuff can be made by anyone(Look at chinese polymer factories).
But that named itself as 'brand' to advertise and sale as premium.
The last line of the video is so true: "The only reason other companies can't do this, and Framework proved it, it's because they don't care". Smart of Linus to put it at the end of the video, but wholeheartedly support Framdwork and Linus' vision. I'm looking to buy a laptop sometime this year or next year, if Framework releases a $2.5-3k AMD laptop, I'll buy it on the day it launches ❤️
I'd say it's more about them not wanting to than not caring. They care about their profits so why sell people something they can fix and upgrade for 10 years when they can sell them a new laptop every 5 years?
@@WMartinNI exactly. Whenever a business does or doesn't do something, the answer is almost always money. That's why people are talking about Framework, because they're doing it for the consumer.
@@WMartinNI or the same laptop with minor upgrades, because, why innovate when you have an idea that sells and you can drown out the competition through corporate lobbying
@@likeaboss971 or just the same laptop because most people won't even bother trying to repair a laptop, they'll just buy a new one.
Looks like an awesome concept, but this caring business model will only be "proven" if they can make it into profitable/viable business. I hope it does.
Mad respect to the CEO from Framework for being so blunt about being held to the expected standard. Love it!
No kidding, that's a bold and confident statement.
Honestly, very impactful, he better hold this position or that will be sent to him until the end of time. I do wish the actual screenshot was in the video, but it feels good to see that.
This is pretty cool! Please keep us posted on this and give us updates regularly !!
I really love Framework as a company. I've got to get one of these laptops! Since the expansion cards are USB-C I have some cool ideas for DIY module inserts.
SeanHodgins X Framework Collab sounds like a fucking hit
@@Avi1027 I didn't know who the gentleman was, so checked him out - and I agree 100% 👍😎
Yeah those would be really cool as a LTT video. I really hope they make a Video about making their own framework laptop expansion cards
I hope this is done by many so there is a variety of available slot mods.
You know you can do it Sean!
When your "legal obligations" are the main theme of the video, and not hidden somewhere in the small print, that's a sign of an organisation with integrity
Wrong. It’s a sign that he’s trying to justify his actions to his fans. Don’t believe the hype.
@@bb55555555 hater
@@bb55555555 cry more
@@bb55555555 I disagree because anyone who has watched LTT for a while knows how they feel about right to repair, and consumer friendly tech. It's probably not strictly what a media company should do to remain impartial, but you can still choose whether to trust them or not. At least they can wear this decision with pride.
@@bb55555555 Why can't you justify your actions to your fans and keep your integrity at the same time?
I’m glad that Linus decided to invest in Framework, we need more companies that will go all in on right to repair, and making sure Framework will be able to survive is a big part of bringing the market towards that
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@@Mikhael03 youtube is crap these days for small and big creators alike
Edit: and the last one is a fricking bit that leads to a link I'm not clicking *AND IT MOCKS YOU*
@@sys-administrator u tellin me as a normal person u r going to solder your board yourself? And just because they did one thing not as u wanted doesn't mean they they dont care, by saying they dont support right to repair u put them on one level with companies like apple
@@sys-administrator u havent watched the original video????
Ironically, the transparency of this video is the exact reason WHY I finally subscribed.
Given Linus's reputation and dedication and transparency, I would have zero issues with him continuing to review notebooks. I truly believe he is capable of putting his biases aside, or admitting them when they come up.
Yeah, still he'd better not to.
I would've zero issues as well, but there always will be people that will not see it the same way as we.
Also, that's probably illegal.
I think it would be good if he covers only the ones he is excited about. Trashing a competitor is where you usually get into trouble, not talking them up.
A conflict of interest can have impacts even when all parties don't realize it's occurring. Even if he's generally positive about a product doesn't mean that his perspective is not skewed.
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@@ruslanetss it's not, you will always see journals mention they have invested in companies at the end of reviews.
If more people approached business with the same integrity that Linus did, the world would work for a lot more people. Good luck in your venture Linus.
Thats exactly why it won't happen. Morality doesn't equal profit in capitalism
its why the system is inherently evil.
"The only reason other companys can't do this, and framework proved it, is because they don't care."
That was in Louis' video on the same topic, wasn't it?
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because its pointless (have always been the downfall with modular gadgets)
Noone is gonna change ports over and over again and if the laptop breaks majority would buy a new laptop simply because they wants something new.
Even if they released greatly improved components majority of people would not go and buy the upgrade kit instead keep the laptop as it is and give it to someone who needs it then buy a new one.
What the market needs is companies who dont try to make it hard to repair their products and provide the parts required. not modularity.
With that said its a wonderful product and they got the repair ability but the market is not asking for modular laptops
Same thing for phones vis-a-vis Fairphone. Samsung or Apple could make a repairable phone that doesn't rely on exploitation and that's more refined and cheaper than a Fairphone, they just don't want to.
I believe in Linus to bring this company the networking partnership this company will need. I can’t wait to see CPU’s like Amd work with that company
"I'm just hoping to pour a little bit of gasoline on the relationship fire."
- Linus "Tech Tips" Sebastian, 2021
I'll be honest, at first when you reviewed this laptop I was thinking: "Oh, another one of those "diy" laptop companies that will inevitably shut down or become the same as every other manufacturer in the end due to corporate greed." We have seen it all before, after all.
However, seeing you willing to take the plunge AND having full rights to publicly abandon them and cover why gives me a lot of confidence in this business. I now fully expect that this business will become a very big name in the years to come and I look forward to seeing what they do in the future, as I'm sure you will cover it.
even alienwere tried and failed , i hope they do succeed
@@TECH3_ Problem is Dell tends to just not care about the consumer space as it doesn't make nearly as much money as what matters to them: business and enterprise.
Yeah, I don't think he represented the amount of trust LTT viewers have on Linus' opinion... and as long as framework backs it up, then I see no problem. hope everything works for framework, I myself am seriously considering one since I've been looking for a smaller laptop than my M15 to take to school etc.
i don't get why this concept fails to be profitable.
even if they can't sell a new model every single year..
not being able to up themselves every year because they hit their max height with laptops. only gives them room to branch out into other stuff like phones.
i truly believe one day the apple like trash e-waste generation will fuck them in the ass someday. because they literally make tons of money by creating trash piles for the world.
if they had to recycle every single fucking thing they put out there. they would be a lot less profitable. and they would choose the framework route.
@@TECH3_ The amount of money needed to make Dell actually interested in a new market segment is WAY higher than the amount needed to keep Framework viable and growing.
"Failed" for Dell means it would not be profitable enough, quickly enough, to keep them interested. "Failed" for Framework will mean actual failure. I think Wendell pointed that out on the Level1Techs video on the thing a day or two ago.
I actually really appreciate Linus giving us the big picture on how the business works, and where it overlaps with the tech industry. Linus is more transparent about his business operations with his viewers than I honestly would expect from someone in his position.
Agreed. He's had quite a bit of experience in the industry, and it's great that he's explaining it to those of us who don't have that level of experience.
@@ILoveHandles Well it was a severe oversimplification of production in a Capitalist market and financing growth. I would not use this as info for how to start a business. Linus has a tool that isn't afforded to most businesses. He has an ability to market things and get more eyes on them for absolutely free which is something your new business would not be able to do in the same manner. Someone just looking to start a business shouldn't really be looking that far in to the future of the business. You have to get the thing up and off the ground before any investors will be interested. No, if someone is wanting to start a business and simply hasn't because they don't have the knowledge. This isn't the knowledge you need. I'm not saying its bad information, but your company has to go a LONG way before you can ever dream of paying off loans with stock in your company. So not really starting a business information at all.
@@darktheories1758 While I don't deny any of what you said about his unique position for generating attention at low cost, or any of the things like trading stock being more a late term, big business matter, what I was specifically referring to was more directed at where he was talking about operational costs and production/distribution cycles, profit margins, etc, which I maintain are very relevant concerns to any business at any level.
Linus would make a great teacher. You'd actually look forward to going to school on the days he teaches
This level of clarity and transparency is so refreshing. I wish more content creators, and really everyone was more like this. Props to your respectability Linus
you are asking people lose money....willingly, I don't think it's gonna happen on a large scale
I mean... it’s a commercial.
I am going to assume no tax deductables is going to be mentioned or amortization. This is below Economy 101. This video is almost a blatant lie.
Yeah.... unfortunately just because he is transparent about it does not make this a good idea. I don't quite get it. He could have gushed about the product without being economically invested in it. That'd probably do more good especially if they didn't need the money. He may be looking to make money off of this.... but yeah.... that is problematic.
The transparency is great though. Let everyone know what is going on and let them make their own decisions. I very much disagree with this move, but that's just me. To each their own.
That bezel just popping off so easily made me unexpectedly excited. As an IT technician, screen replacement is probably one of the most annoying processes because the bezel never comes off as easy as every video males it seem.
That and it always feels like a few plastic clips make it their mission to insure they'll never go back in the latch they originally sat in.
Either cause the WiFi antenna band sifted or because the clip didn't survive the opening process since you accidentally used just a smidge too much force.
It's held on with magnets. You can't get any cooler. As long as you have an average IQ you can fix that laptop. In fact, I'd wager that if you can get in the army you can fix that laptop.
(Edit: and I want to be clear that I'm not saying people in the army are stupid, it's just the only organization that has a stated minimum IQ for entry)
I wonder if I'll make you wet your pants when I tell you this part (which you might already know if you've been paying attention):
_The screen isn't glued to the top case. Screws only._
ASUS VivoBooks make me want to throw them at the wall. Also the new cheap HP laptops have the panel glued to the top lid. Which meaning you have to risk bending or breaking the top lid assembly to get the screen off.
@@carlanwray8718 "Stated minimun IQ to get in" that cuts out the bottom 1/3 of the nations bell curve making your average soldier who has a lower intelligence demanding job likely having a higher IQ than the average citizen. You may not be trying to say they are dumb buuuuut you did and you are wrong lol
Linus “I can bring my own ego into inside conversations”
Framework “free LTT underwear when you buy a framework laptop”
Underrated af 🤣
They should make it dropproof
You know… not a bad deal! I’d buy!
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"First 100 customers get special signed and shop-worn underwear!"
Two of the people Linus lists in this video as industry relationships now work at LMG.
I love how he present LTT products while he talking about trust/conflict of interest issues x). That backpack is awesome!!
non of his products are conflict of interest though
I thought it would only be for laptops
@@Mb_Blender None of the item LTT sell, but he talked about when he review other company laptop...
Linus' honesty is honestly heart-warming.
Just because he’s out there with this doesn’t make it right.
@@bb55555555 ok
@@bb55555555 chill out dude
BB all the youtube channels you watch are in the business of making you a product. Linus being open about it IS admirable. He is good at his job and seems to be sincere. Leave it at that,
@@bb55555555 found the hater
I lost it at the "Linus's Commitments" part, was not expecting that closeup.
That being said, I'm super enthralled with Framework's mission and excited to Linus backing them.
All in BRUH.
@@QueueTeePies I would probably buy it ... Sounds like a good marketing plan
Would love this laptop. Hopefully a version with a dedicated GPU comes after the Ryzen model.
If there's one thing I've learned over my years of watching LTT it's that Linus is, at the core, a hardware nerd. Therefore I both understand the wish to invest in Framework and that even with that, he'd still be excited about cool laptops from other manufacturers. Framework succeeding means those other manufacturers at least taking a look at making their devices more modular and perhaps laptops might get some sort of modular standard just like the ATX standard which helped make the PC the dominant computer it is today.
Really appreciate this video.
Ok?
@@GhostSlayerYT ok?
@@hi_its_jerry OK
@Harun Agar OKAY
@@GhostSlayerYT OKAY???
I really love how honest and transparent Linus runs LTT he is always up and front about the business. He keeps a good balance of “yeah we are a company” and “intimate persona”
12:14 how ironic that 2 of the people mentioned now work at LMG 😂
Well I mean if he's paying the majority of his friends he might as well and get his few friends that he doesn't pay on that list
I remember hearing the initial discussion about it on the WAN show and I'm really glad you went through with it.
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Ok ok... i'll buy it ... if available :)
And I want a water-cooling module!
Give it 5 years and we'll scrape together enough silicon to make 3 more.
Give it some room and time bruh, they just barely launch the highly potential new standard for portable tech industry. Exotic/enthusiast features would be awesome but they had to win the heart of mainstream consumers first.
@@Bayofthe91st ever heard of a joke?
@@philojenkins8841 apparently Linus already asking that to the Chinese :)
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@@Bayofthe91st lol it was just a pandemic joke, I have complete faith that this company will succeed
If there was ever a product I wanted to see you invest in, it was this one. Hopefully with LTTs support, this product can breakthrough where others have failed.
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Sounds to me like it's not LTT but Linus himself
Framework laptops looks cool, but I hope that they will have "XL edition" with bigger frame, more slots and numpad.
Well, if they do well and aren't destroyed by anti repair advocates like Apple. An XL version may very well be on the horizon
And it's here now!
Guess what?
You're one of the only truly honest people on UA-cam, it's great that you invested in Framework !
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Everyone should run their business the way Linus does. Such a profound gentleman of business.
Makes me patriotic to be a Canadian, if old man Linus wants to go into politics he’s got my vote
@@Daniel-fi7jp oh that would be great
That would probably suck.
I'm not trying to be a jerk but their 1000 dollar laptop can be had in the same configuration for 500. Honestly look it up. I get that people want to repair their devices but even not taking into account repair costs its still cheaper to buy a different one and then buy another if it breaks.. hell, buy the newer model. The expansion slots are all usbc.. you can do that with just a dongle on any other laptop. Hes being transparent? Is he? He hasn't brought up their DOUBLE price. I feel like that's why half this video is about the price of running a business. What is the fucking point of this laptop? Environmental? Fine then say that. This is the price of environmental consideration, but that's it. You pay twice as much to be able to repair it MAYBE unless it's water and were still not considering the price of parts and labor, remember this is compared to just buying two for the same price. People are applauding that this reviewer of laptops invested in a laptop company? Guys, are we this stupid?
@@spraynardkruger6426 People are applauding that this laptop reviewer invested in a laptop company and made that information very public and made a promise to keep his integrity as a reviewer. The point of this laptop is that its configurable, environmentally friendly, and pro right to repair. They did say that. It's not made to be an absolute performance powerhouse. If it's a bad deal for you, then don't buy it.
Edit: Also, people are able to have priorities and thoughts other than yours without being stupid. Please at least try to have have open mind before throwing out insults. What's stupid is thinking that your opinion is the best opinion without considering what anyone else has to say. If you don't understand why it's so expensive, just say that you don't see how that makes sense.
Linus is legitimately one of the few youtubers who has integrity imo, I trust he’ll keep his commitments
Same
I wouldn't quite call this level Integrity, I'd call this basic human decency. Integrity is being in a room during a hot mic situation and still holding firm on your principles, when for all you know you're in private. Yes I have a particular person in mind, it was the Tim Pool on Joe Rogan hot mic. Still a pretty popular clip if it's still around.
@@DSiren His integrity is his level of willingness to go this far when deciding how and how far he will go to disclose his financial involvement and the level of honesty and the code of ethics he’s set for himself here, when covering this product as well as others occupying the same space in the market.
He's just covering his ass in case someone discovered the connection.
@@FrozenHaxor no. He talked about it in depth for one of his WAN shows. He isn’t doing this for the money because it would be a way safer move on his part not to do anything. I believe in Linus.
12:24 ,and how Gary works for LMG :O
And Terren Tong
Seeing Linus give his full support to a brand like this I feel really gives the tech community a lot of confidence in Framework. I can't think of another youtuber/influencer whose opinion on tech I respect more, nor one that has been so transparent to the fanbase. I can't wait to get my hands on one of these computers in the near future, hopefully there's an AMD variant at that time.
Agreed, on both fronts, AMD have somewhat earned my respect and trust with the work they have being doing on AMDGPU opensource graphics stuff, and make better processors across the board for all things than the (X86 based) competition now (especially on power draw to performance, which matters in a laptop) and while I don't always agree with him/his team/ their video choices damn if they don't do a good job of telling it how it really is most of the time.
I'm also hoping him/ his team do their magic on a 'MNT Reform' a similar repairable premium laptop concept, but with opensource being the priority over outright performance, on paper its somewhere around a Pi3-Pi4, which is great for lots of tasks, maybe even everything you do that isn't gaming in theory at least - plus it has a trackball (and I like a good trackball)... If/When I actually need to replace my now stupidly old Toughbooks it will be with this Framework or the MNT device as it stands...
I would actually love more content about framework, interview with the CEO or tour of their setup maybe??
That would be really awesome to see; LTT has done tours of other companies, so why not?
It's probably not ready for public yet. Give them a year to prepare and takeoff first
Lol he's gonna recoup that 200k in 10 videos then :P
Okay okay 100 videos...
Linus is the kind of guy to make decisions that we'd all like to *think* we'd make, but put in his shoes we probably wouldn't. Linus, here's to you always representing the damn best of the tech community 🍻
He doesn't wear shoes 😂
@@REMY.C. It is obvious, that he meant sandals...
Maybe that's becasue he has lots of cash ?
@@OlaffLudwig that's my bad. "Put in his socked sandals"
I really hope I would. But to be honest, I don't think I'd put it in tech... I'd probably found a charity, and knowing me, somehow bankrupt it and lose all the money...
Honestly very happy that you backed them and you seem happy about your decision too i don’t think anyones going to look down on you for it
Having followed your journey since the very early days, all I've got to say is: good for you, Linus. People see your ~14 mil subscribers but they forgot your countless, sleepless nights. If you can invest into something like that while keeping your integrity, then by all means go for it. If there's one guy we can trust, it's you.
I agree completely. I think Linus is one of the most trustworthy people on the internet at the moment.
I never comment on UA-cam videos but this deserves it for the algorithm of interactions. Cheers on the complete transparency. I just graduated law school and this screams of ethics and integrity.
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A small advise, I was looking at the website and it said my region (Germany) was not available yet. I can't stretch this enough but framework should look into selling in this market as soon as possible. Barring other issues Germany (and the DACH-region as a whole), has a huge diy market and is extremely environmentally conscious and something like the Framework notebooks are definitely needed here.
+1
Yuup. Went on their website to look at it, but they don't have a german keyboard layout atm.
But I'm so looking forward to their products in the future and would love to buy one, if it fits my needs.
Bump 1+ from Switzerland!
I wish i could say the same about Denmark and the rest of Scandinavia, but people here are too infatuated with their Macbooks, for a DIY centered laptop to take hold :(
@@felixm.8910 They don't because they're only distributing to US and Canada, there's no reason for them to have a German layout
Incredible honesty and openness but, more than that, respect for your subscribers to directly address this tricky subject.
I really love that Linus so passionately uses his audience and financial resources to help grow a company that is literally built around right to repair!
Or, he is lying and just taking advantage of amateur engineers that don't understand anything about software support. The company will go under in a year or less, linus will own some of their patents, and sell them for more than he went in for. It's a classic move by unethical business investors that take advantage of moronic engineers.
@@sqlevolicious ok doomer
Let me be fair here. Disclaimers are cool sometimes, especially when they're part of a greater good. You guys are just the right kind of crazy to really make the difference you want to see and I believe that the need for such a disclaimer may even amplify the impact of Framework no matter how obscure or convoluted that disclaimer is. Go and review every last product with as much bias as you can muster, and you will be all but guaranteed to be rewarded much more than you expect. People will most definitely dislike you and possibly even try to take you down, but you have a community far bigger than any controversy anyone could bring up behind you in this journey. Don't give up. Never give up. I would say don't drop it, but...
The way I see it the framework laptop should now become the gold standard it's not biased when it's the best
Compare every laptop to it and I'm surure that's got to eventually start making companies change
I hope
The amount of confidence the Framework team has overall is astounding. These people definitely are not afraid and the publicity they're receiving from their fresh ideas I'm positive are doing nothing but increasing their confidence moving forward. I'm amped to see what they have planned for the future, and I can totally see myself buying a laptop from them whenever I decide to retire my MacBook.
@Cole Sthe framework laptop is a lot more repairable than any other laptop
@Cole S surely if we believe he will sell out for money then no video on this channel can be trusted
@Cole S Lol. Then watch Louis Rossman, he said the same things as Linus.
@Cole S ah, so I see you haven't seen Louis Rossmann also support it?
Or perhaps everyone on the internet is just a shill and nothing ever happens.
That's exactly what my batch 3 order is for.
Very cool, I didn’t think modular laptops would ever be a thing. I hope we start trending towards more long lasting sustainable things.