I know some of you guys are overloaded with the boat content, but it's summer and we're really enjoying it right now. We will be back to the regularly scheduled racecar content when our racing season gets back in full swing. We've got LS Fest, Race Week 2.0 and a bunch of other good stuff coming up!!!
Cleetus u prolly won't read this but here's some driving tips: trim down all the way to plane, full throttle to plane and let off once the bow falls, trim up about 4 seconds after plane for neutral trim, when you hit it it might start chime walking you need to steer the opposite direction of where the boat leans to balance the boat, its a game of balancing it on the pad( flat surface on the keel), if it progressively chime walks more and more then simply let off, readjust trim and try again, you wanna get the bow as high out of the water for max speed and minimum drag, you do that by raising the trim, and personally I would take off the Neutral safety switch which is two yellow wires with an orange or red line so you could shift with the motor off then start it in gear to minimize wear on the lower unit, most important thing is to make smooth and small adjustments when driving, don't jerk the wheel hard when balancing and don't let off too hard or the boat will kick the transom out to the right because of torque steer. Just tryna help you out I've owned a lot of 70+ boats and driven a lot and built a lot over at our shop.
Since there are two man teams. You should do a race where you have to…. Back Truck, boat, and trailer down the ramp.. launch the boat… Park the truck… both men get in the boat…do a small circuit lap ending at the ramp…. Retrieve the boat with the truck and trailer… time stops when the boat is out of the water again. Teamwork and Operational skills test.
I like the idea of a Le Mans start kind of boat race BUT.... these are public boat ramps and they usually have a lot of 'no wake' zones where you can't go fast until you are out a bit more. IMHO Cleetus should get a tad more on that lower + trailer winch to patch up and reinforce a few real bad spots on that trailer like that middle that is almost cracked through and that loose bolt holding those rusty leaf springs. Yikes! A little welding would go a long way. That whole area looks really rotted out and a bit unsafe for the road. Would suck to see FlaminGO not even make it to the race due to the trailer literally breaking apart. Looking forward to see what the competition brings in the $2500 challenge.
Adjust the cables and and idle. Don’t, don’t get rid of the other prop before you try it. He said 68 mph with it. It will feel like Leroy launching. You need to find the max rpm suggested for the motor, when wide open if you can’t reach it, go a pitch lower in number. Example, 21 to a 19 and try again. The pitch is like gears. It’s number of turns per foot of travel through the water. So a 17 will spin faster, launch hard like 4.10 vs a 21 pitch being like 3.08 gears. 50 is fast on the water so 68…. I think you have them beat in anything with that extra prop on.
Usually we don’t adjust any of it we start in gear and shift with motor off. Don’t need to adjust anything. Even with the idle low, the higher pitch props push so much water it will blow the gears apart eventually
@@echo9082 Never stood out to me buy I do agree most folks on UA-cam ought to level their videos a but and shoot for a consistent db level across all of their content.
@@dav8388 i didn't know i was just wondering if james was gonna "buy" one of fins boats for the challenge and then just sell it back for the 2500 afterwards lol
This is the most Florida man thing I have ever seen. Buying the sketchiest pink boat on the sketchiest trailer from a sketchy local, and then immediately dumping it in the water and pinning it. Don't ever change
I did the same thing when I was like 17 didn't know to check the transom in it, engine never fell off had alot of good times in her but I ditched it about a year later
You have a drain plug. 09:21, Below the "u" in transomtuffner. That is the drain for that upper area. The plug in there needs to be pulled out and put in the proper place in the bilge drain. Can't help on that trailer though!
It looks a little small, especially when you can see the other side coming through from the back of the boat.. On that same time stamp what is that black and red plug on top to the left?
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Luckily a giraffe can see over the bow when you start :) Competition ideas: 1. Drag race (no brainer ;)) 2. Pull race (hook the boats together and see who pulls who) 3. Slalom course to see how nimble the boats are 4. Rescue mission. (Pull up a 50kg floaty thingie/doll/whatever from the water into the boat, fastest to return to shore wins) 5. Smoothness, plank with 5-6 glasses full off liquid. Run a set course, most liquid left and shortest time wins (or shortest time wins as long as X amount of liquid is left)
It’s a 2 stroke out board only gauge for mtr would be water temp but they run on the edge of overheating normally and it has a alarm and safety shut down . I’m sure the oil injection has been removed if it hasn’t then that would be the first move I made and run premix so there would be no need for a oil level gauge but even if it is still oil injected it also has a low oil alarm and a safety shut off ( that both need to be wired through if it is removed ) so that would only leave a fuel gauge if it has a mounted onboard tank and obviously that’s not a needed gauge if you know what you are doing … so you sir are 100 precent correct start it and go no gauges are needed ! Did you here dude when Cleet first fired it ? He said it smokes some lmao yea it’s 2 stroke might want to know what you have before you take it out lol 😂 I’m sure Cleet knew !
Two things: Boat motors have an ignition interrupt switch for shifting into gear, this thing is either not working or the shift cable has way to much play and you are getting into the power on the throttle cable before its in gear. Second, trim the motor all the way down before trying to plane the boat out. This is all about angle of attack between the hull and the motor. I have never seen a boat that was designed to not start with the motor full down. Trim out once plane.
There is nothing that fancy on that old motor. The shift/throttle cables are out of time with each other, out of adjustment in general, the base timing on the engine is wrong, the dogs are rounded over or the idle is just high. It usually goes something like the engine stalls when put into gear so people start jacking with shit and end up on just cranking the idle up and beating it to death. Old Merc v6's 78-95ish, you set base timing, then you set marks for ignition advance, then you adjust the shift cable so that at the point where it is engaged into gear matches ignition advance marks together. There should be zero throttle opening at the carbs at that point, only a few degrees of advance on timing to carry the load of idling in gear. If it wont idle in gear like that the carbs need to be cleaned or compression is low.
Exactly what I was thinking - shift cable is too much forward and not enough travel in reverse, lower idle speed. Time for McFarland welding to break out the MIG and stick some scrap metal onto that trailer as well!
Dude talks so fast and just spits out random information. At a minimum, I would put the whale find on the outboard. At least give you more controlled trim.
Whatever the challenge is,don't include stoping. The backwash on that boat is brutal. It'll sink in a minute. It's rated for an 85 and it's got that 175 on it.
You clearly know nothing about checkmates... these boats were way over built for the time. Also with a little transom bracing you could practically ha g anything off the back of these. Pretty sure this boat is 18ft and was rated at 185hp. I had an enchanter (20ft) with a 200hp and a predictor (16ft) also with a 200hp. (Was rated at 150hp). The backwash is only horrible because he got completely out of it and it's a low slung boat.
My family had a 16-foot hydrostream that had kind of the same problem, right when the backwash is about to the transom you just give it a blip of throttle to get in front of the wave, worked every time
That is a coned XR6 gearcase and most likely a 2.5L Mercury. You need to turn the engine off, shift three gear, start it and do engine cut offs for each shift.
@@timsorensen2085 that’s not how race boats work. This isn’t a cruiser. Go up to any real racer and tell him he needs to adjust his cables cause his junk won’t shift while running and they’ll laugh you out of the parking lot.
@@78freewheeler this is not a race engine. It's an off the shelf 175 Mariner. (Mercury). Shifting them in gear is totally normal and acceptable when cables are adjusted properly and components are working properly.
Trim all the way down before trying to take off. Then give it all the throttle and trim up little by little until you feel the front lift. Be smooth with the counter steering. Trim down before just letting off the throttle. If the prop shaft is below the pad, there’s no need to run the chopper prop. Chopper prop is designed to run on the surface. You have the lower unit for it. Most importantly BE CAREFUL. That boat is no where near 700lbs. That motor is 300-350lbs.
I have a much simpler version. Throttle all the way out the hole then ease off the throttle. Your right about the weight which is why at lower throttle it rides so nose up.
@@liveandletlive2894 Steering inputs to prevent chine walk once the boat is up on the pad.... if that boat will even go fast enough to need it. Search chine walk for all the info
I feel like he also needs a hydraulic jackplate and a different lower unit gearing or a prop...seems like it has plenty of power for the prop once it's rolling though. Could just be motor height too.
hahaha that boat seller is the most prime example of a FL man I've ever seen. Speaking so fast cant even keep up lol. Love it. Dude would probably give you the shirt off his back in a pinch though, good ppl
Cleet word of advice. If you want maximum top end. trim the bad boy up while boating until it starts to cavitate. Then bump her down slightly and you'll get maximum performance.
It did look like the neighbors house but he done traded and sold it all for that gogo juice. When Cleetus said $2500 that guy was started figuring right then that's 7 days and 7 nights.
Could be a sweet little setup for 2500$ Defiantly need to adjust the shift and throttle cables, bleed the steering, and try trimming that motor all the way in before jumping on plane then trimming out as you increase in speed. The motor could prolly come down a couple holes on that manual jackplate as well
probably tuned/modified to race only, some of them simply disliked shifting into reverse if setup tight for best forward control. but who knows, it could just be an abortion. after hearing it more, something is very silly there, maybe the wrong control for it, bad control or shifter/throttle cables swapped?
Naw that’s how Mercury’s are they grind just have to shift fast the reason it is moving so fast just clutched in is because it has a big speed prop on it hence why it’s slow planing off . It’s not idled to high it’s just moving a ton of water put a power prop on it and it will move slow clutched in !
That mariner is no joke they rip actually the setup isn’t bad. The hole shot and cavitation don’t sound horrible. It’s all throttle and trim. Don’t air her out too much. Get a hot foot 👌
yes, agreed, if you lack experience with a fast outboard motor boat itcan hurt you real fast, I've seen 18 ft bass boats trimmed out to high and blow over. once was in February and the water was damn cold, we all jumped in our boats to go to him and didn't trim the motor dawn and did like this boat of cletes, just poured the gas out the carbs in front
@@bigdaddykeithcarter1624 So true! My friend's uncle is a pro bass fisherman (fishes FLW and MLF now...and has made a GREAT living doing it). His tournament boat in '99 (I think) was a Bumblebee with a 200 FICHT on it and it's the only boat he's had try to come over on him from lifting so high. Hot foot saved him that day. Still the fastest boat he's ever run as his personal boat but the Bass Cat Cougar he's running now with the new 250 V8 Mercury is the second fastest he's had. I'm sure he's happy to not be getting passed nearly as much running the Bass Cat after running Ranger (mostly 520's) for 20 years. As a bass boat owner myself I cringe at how some run theirs and am glad I'm not riding with them driving like some of them do.
That was a pretty good deal; I don’t know about US prices but here in Greece, the motor alone would’ve been worth that amount. New gelcoat, interior refit, screen, new seats… for another 1000-1500 depending on how much you do yourself, I reckon you’d have a great fun boat on your hands. Mine looked like that when I bought it.
10 days after he left - dude had nothing.. And was pissed he sold the boat. Crazy 10 days though. Basically seemed like one day, since there was no sleep in that time, naturally.
Need to adjust them shifter and throttle cables brother! Costs nothing and will save that lower unit. Don't be afraid to shift it into gear quickly. That's how they operate 👍 All of the advice on trim for launch is spot on 👌
Most people would think about how much more money they could get for the boat, this man was simply thinking about how much meth he can get for 2500 and how quick he could get the money to do so.
Cletus, you need to see a person that knows about outboard racing, these aren't jet boats, these boats will hurt you if you don't know what you are doing,let off the gas slow,with the prop torque sometimes they pitch sideways, trim it under when you take off, all the way on the throttle, it might cavitation a little but it will get on plane quicker, you have a boat that you need instruction on it
BE CAREFUL! At speeds above 70 mph that boat will “Chinewalk”. (Rocking left and right). Extremely dangerous if you don’t catch it right away. Letting off the throttle at the wrong time, the boat will hook and throw you out!
awesome deathtrap cleet! sell that spare lower for a fiberglass kit, build up the rear a bit and seal up the leaks + drop a few lead bricks in the nose.
Just a tip, I have had boats with similar hulls and speed and have had to add weight to the bow to prevent "Chine walking" before. Used a sand bag or 2, some of these boats have the fuel tank in the bow for this very reason
rarely would anyone add weight *especially at the bow*. adjust balance via setback and also different props produce different bow lift, etc. additionally, chine walk is all in the motor mounts, steering, and drivers ability. a boat must be well setup and learn to be flown.
@@SuperWaterskiboy Well obviously changing other dynamics of the boat would have some affect on chine walk, but for all practical purposes adding a little weight or shifting weight around is used in almost every Motorsport known to man. Even James has added weight to his car to prevent wheelies instead of going back and resetting up the car.
As challenge, race from startpoint to like a mark, there you have to make a TIGHT 180 so it bogs down and have to start over from not planing. 2. Slalomcourse, with lemans start from swimming. Hi speed checkerdflag. 3. Puttning it in water AT best time. 4. A timecourse with 2 different driver (2 separat laps), drivingchange on land (1 person on land AT all Times. Motor off AT change. Matti, sweden
Hey brother those boats tbh will scare the bald eagles out of you once it gets over 80+ they tend to wanna fly over so please be careful cleet we don’t want you hurt on some dumb 2500$ boat accident! And the plane issue is just how those boats are with that prop you gotta gas it wide open let off then gas it again and it’ll plane easier
A timed lap while pulling Squirrel and Alec in a tube, timed maneuverability at speed test with 10 seconds penalty if you hit the bouy, Party Barge...how many friends can fit on without falling off or sinking.
1. Drag race from dead stop. 2. Out and back around a buoy (flying or dead stop). 3. timed Slalom with buoys. 4. tubing (subjective judgment by the tuber). 5. who can fit the most beer ( Mnt Dew) cans in and around the boat while remaining sea-going
All boat motors smoke when you crank em! They’re all running on mixed fuel if there older engines like that one. It’s a V6, two stroke engine which they no longer make anymore. The new motors are 4 stroke and V8 if you buy a new mercury that’s big. Mariner and Mercury are the same thing basically! I actually like the 2 stroke, V6s myself but the EPA made these engine manufactures stop building engines in this configuration because of the unburnt fuel and emissions. The new 4 stroke, V8s are much heavier than the older 2 stroke, V6s. The older engines would jump of the hole much faster because they are so much lighter but the new engines do run much faster top end. Most of your drag boat racers still run the 2 stroke, V6 Mercury motor. However, everything will eventually go to the heavier 4 stroke, V8 because that’s all they make, the new motors last longer, and they’re making much more power now. Mercury has a 450 V8 now, heck they even have a 600 4 stroke, V12 now that weighs like 1600-1800 lbs if I remember correctly. Boat motors have evolved a lot over the past few years now that they have went to 4 stroke engines.
Everyone loves some racing videos. But these boat videos just hit a little different. Every video I watch on this channel is much worth my time of day.
You can adjust the reverse and forward gear engagement from the motor, there is a proper process for it, shouldnt take you too long. Will help with the grinding of the gears.
Trailer slalom and race to launch Tube pull Drag from a dig to a quater mile Race to the keys (240 mile trip) Fuel economy run And of course a top speed run Last one is offroad race pulling the trailers with crown vics at the freedom factory like you guys did with the cheap cars
Ya need to have that trim adjusted ALL THE WAY DOWN for the hole shot, it MIGHT plane out the quickest also with the trim all the way down......AND/OR: experiment with trim adjustments as you accelerate to get it to plane out the quickest.......once ya get her on plane as soon as possible, you keep trimming up to gain even more speed. Takes a little practice to find all the sweet spots with each hull design/boat motor combo. Also TRIM DOWN at the same time you're slowing down to keep the boat from porpoising ( nose hopping ). When ya slow to a stop, watch the wake, so that it doesn't swamp the transom. Goose the throttle a little if & when ya see the wake is about to swamp the ass end. That trailer is dangerous as hell. Buy the PFD's (life vest ) with the CO2 cartridges. They cost more, but they are the least bulky of all life vest/PFD's, & more comfortable to wear.
My first boat was a 1979 Hydrostream. With a 2.4L outboard Merc 2stroke. Supposedly/ Allegedly the boat would do 100mph. I definitely got it to 65mph before breaking all the rotted out stringers that I didn't know about. I cut the boat up years later. But I still have the engine and all the parts&pieces of anyone wants it. Make ya a hell of a deal.
I know some of you guys are overloaded with the boat content, but it's summer and we're really enjoying it right now. We will be back to the regularly scheduled racecar content when our racing season gets back in full swing. We've got LS Fest, Race Week 2.0 and a bunch of other good stuff coming up!!!
I like the boat stuff too
I hope you LS/car engine swap this boat so you can race finnigan
Absolutely LOVE the watersports content!
I love the boat live action, it’s summertime and bots are where it’s at
Dude, if you like fast cars and you don't like fast boats, something's off.
1 step closer to a real drag boat....
You're absolutely right, gon drag the next man that falls off lmao
Florida man drag boat goals
Give him time. This will have a 427 😂
nothing will top yours… well besides the Lucas oil nitromethane series boats
Keep pushing him Finn.
Cleetus u prolly won't read this but here's some driving tips:
trim down all the way to plane, full throttle to plane and let off once the bow falls, trim up about 4 seconds after plane for neutral trim, when you hit it it might start chime walking you need to steer the opposite direction of where the boat leans to balance the boat, its a game of balancing it on the pad( flat surface on the keel), if it progressively chime walks more and more then simply let off, readjust trim and try again, you wanna get the bow as high out of the water for max speed and minimum drag, you do that by raising the trim, and personally I would take off the Neutral safety switch which is two yellow wires with an orange or red line so you could shift with the motor off then start it in gear to minimize wear on the lower unit, most important thing is to make smooth and small adjustments when driving, don't jerk the wheel hard when balancing and don't let off too hard or the boat will kick the transom out to the right because of torque steer. Just tryna help you out I've owned a lot of 70+ boats and driven a lot and built a lot over at our shop.
Good advice here.
Dope advice dude, I hope Cleeter reads this!
Yeah what he said..
CHINE .....THE WORD IS" CHINE " WALK ...LOL
@@craigbielsky115 It kept auto correcting I just said screw it lol
I know we like to say that Cleetus is a Florida Man, but homeboy who sold him the boat is a true Florida Man
Dude looks like a Florida junkie
@@thescout4313 if he is a junkie he just got a big score
You he’s buying some meth with that cash
😂😆🤣 true
Captain Scribbles
"Is this gonna be good for my family. Absolutely not"
-Florida man 2021
Since there are two man teams. You should do a race where you have to…. Back Truck, boat, and trailer down the ramp.. launch the boat… Park the truck… both men get in the boat…do a small circuit lap ending at the ramp…. Retrieve the boat with the truck and trailer… time stops when the boat is out of the water again. Teamwork and Operational skills test.
This is a great challenge
this one needs to be higher
Love this
I like the idea of a Le Mans start kind of boat race BUT.... these are public boat ramps and they usually have a lot of 'no wake' zones where you can't go fast until you are out a bit more. IMHO Cleetus should get a tad more on that lower + trailer winch to patch up and reinforce a few real bad spots on that trailer like that middle that is almost cracked through and that loose bolt holding those rusty leaf springs. Yikes! A little welding would go a long way. That whole area looks really rotted out and a bit unsafe for the road. Would suck to see FlaminGO not even make it to the race due to the trailer literally breaking apart. Looking forward to see what the competition brings in the $2500 challenge.
Good one
Adjust the cables and and idle. Don’t, don’t get rid of the other prop before you try it. He said 68 mph with it. It will feel like Leroy launching. You need to find the max rpm suggested for the motor, when wide open if you can’t reach it, go a pitch lower in number. Example, 21 to a 19 and try again. The pitch is like gears. It’s number of turns per foot of travel through the water. So a 17 will spin faster, launch hard like 4.10 vs a 21 pitch being like 3.08 gears. 50 is fast on the water so 68…. I think you have them beat in anything with that extra prop on.
Usually we don’t adjust any of it we start in gear and shift with motor off. Don’t need to adjust anything. Even with the idle low, the higher pitch props push so much water it will blow the gears apart eventually
Everything you said was right
Pitch is number of inches the boat moves in a single turn in a solid. Not the number of turns per foot in the water
@@colbyjdutton this is correct. My family owns a propeller repair shop.
Yeah, what he said.
dont underestimate jackstand jimmy, especially when he's quiet.
He was just sitting there like he had been planning for months
Or when he's crying like a lil btch because it's not all about him
The lows in these videos could do with some gain for sure
@@echo9082 Never stood out to me buy I do agree most folks on UA-cam ought to level their videos a but and shoot for a consistent db level across all of their content.
Jimmy will spray🏴☠️an old tower of power for the win 🇺🇸🏁🇺🇸
I think jack stand has something up his sleeve he has his joker smile.
Nitrous lol
Lightweightrageous
Did finnegan have an old jet boat he was selling maybe??? Or renting out🤣
@@ducksnbucks1 if you're referring to the renegade. He sold that to Dave Newburn
@@dav8388 i didn't know i was just wondering if james was gonna "buy" one of fins boats for the challenge and then just sell it back for the 2500 afterwards lol
"I tried to fix this, but I did it wrong with a fence post." That man needs the "Stand back, I built this shit myself" shirt.
I'd say "Worst Trailer Challenge" but you already have that in the bag.
I don't know... I've seen worse.
Freaking tobacco frames tied together with twine where there used to be welds for instance
I bought the cheapest floating death trap on the internet!
Worst transom as well, although it could be just from the engine well.
Don't care if it's a boat or a car, I love these cheap vehicle challenges so much, please do more
why do i have a feeling that jackstand is gonna spray the life out of his boat
Hahaha I pictured James with nitrous right away , nailing it out of the hole and swamping the ass end under water off the hit 🤣
Lmao 😂
Cos its James...
"I'll sell it for $5000."
"I'll give you $2500."
"Come git it."
Meth. It's a helluva a drug ya know.
he did seem a little tweaked
Prob oxy, or H.
Come to think of it...it probably wasn't his boat 🤔🤣🤣
Facts. He seemed tweaked up
Lmao you guys don’t know what tweakers are. I live by real meth heads. This guy isn’t tweaking
This is the most Florida man thing I have ever seen. Buying the sketchiest pink boat on the sketchiest trailer from a sketchy local, and then immediately dumping it in the water and pinning it. Don't ever change
😆😂🤣 true
I second that brother!!!!!
I did the same thing when I was like 17 didn't know to check the transom in it, engine never fell off had alot of good times in her but I ditched it about a year later
Like Shelby stanga said don't do any of the hairbrain things i do. don't ever do it !
Sketchy is Florida's middle name & sometimes the best way to go to have a fun time.
Buys a shady boat - straight to the water. Never seen that go wrong lol
I know… I’ve been doing this for 50yrs and never seen a boat launch ever pan out like this.
With a towel for a drain plug
You have a drain plug. 09:21, Below the "u" in transomtuffner. That is the drain for that upper area. The plug in there needs to be pulled out and put in the proper place in the bilge drain. Can't help on that trailer though!
We need to up vote this so Cleeter sees it.
It looks a little small, especially when you can see the other side coming through from the back of the boat.. On that same time stamp what is that black and red plug on top to the left?
Luckily a giraffe can see over the bow when you start :)
Competition ideas:
1. Drag race (no brainer ;))
2. Pull race (hook the boats together and see who pulls who)
3. Slalom course to see how nimble the boats are
4. Rescue mission. (Pull up a 50kg floaty thingie/doll/whatever from the water into the boat, fastest to return to shore wins)
5. Smoothness, plank with 5-6 glasses full off liquid. Run a set course, most liquid left and shortest time wins (or shortest time wins as long as X amount of liquid is left)
James's boat is just gonna be giant bottle of nitrous
Underrated comment
Literally floating on a bottle of nitrous 😭
@@jonathonvince3605 😂
Hahahhaa I spit my drink out reading this
"0 gauges" A boat like that doesn't needs gauges, It's just idol and mach jesus .
It’s a 2 stroke out board only gauge for mtr would be water temp but they run on the edge of overheating normally and it has a alarm and safety shut down . I’m sure the oil injection has been removed if it hasn’t then that would be the first move I made and run premix so there would be no need for a oil level gauge but even if it is still oil injected it also has a low oil alarm and a safety shut off ( that both need to be wired through if it is removed ) so that would only leave a fuel gauge if it has a mounted onboard tank and obviously that’s not a needed gauge if you know what you are doing … so you sir are 100 precent correct start it and go no gauges are needed ! Did you here dude when Cleet first fired it ? He said it smokes some lmao yea it’s 2 stroke might want to know what you have before you take it out lol 😂 I’m sure Cleet knew !
You should be recording everyone’s boat buying escapades.
everyone on team cleet should rock a body cam!
I'm sure there's a spare gopro they can take with them
I'm sure they will
Agreed! Some behind the scenes stuff would make for some great content for the second channel!
@@2020jd second channel should be James daily shop life. GIVE jack stand a full time GoPro already!
Two things: Boat motors have an ignition interrupt switch for shifting into gear, this thing is either not working or the shift cable has way to much play and you are getting into the power on the throttle cable before its in gear.
Second, trim the motor all the way down before trying to plane the boat out. This is all about angle of attack between the hull and the motor. I have never seen a boat that was designed to not start with the motor full down. Trim out once plane.
There is nothing that fancy on that old motor. The shift/throttle cables are out of time with each other, out of adjustment in general, the base timing on the engine is wrong, the dogs are rounded over or the idle is just high. It usually goes something like the engine stalls when put into gear so people start jacking with shit and end up on just cranking the idle up and beating it to death. Old Merc v6's 78-95ish, you set base timing, then you set marks for ignition advance, then you adjust the shift cable so that at the point where it is engaged into gear matches ignition advance marks together. There should be zero throttle opening at the carbs at that point, only a few degrees of advance on timing to carry the load of idling in gear. If it wont idle in gear like that the carbs need to be cleaned or compression is low.
Think it’s just the after market foot
Challenges:
1. Drag race
2. Slalom
3. Endurance test
4. Towing a skier
don't forget Tug-Of-War! that has to be entertaining with boats lol
speed dockinh challenge would be cool too
Instead of skier... Hotdogs or banana inner tube! Lol
that prop is the polar opposite of what you need for a skier. would be practially impossible
@@daltondeal247 he does have two props....
“I don’t worry about cosmetics” bro that’s not cosmetic that’s structural lmao 😂
Right like homie was just trying to help damn boat about fall off with half of the trailer 😂
You bought a home built tweaker boat…to win a bet? Hands down best content on YT. 🔥
facts
Need to adjust the timing between the shift cable and throttle cable
Exactly what I was thinking - shift cable is too much forward and not enough travel in reverse, lower idle speed. Time for McFarland welding to break out the MIG and stick some scrap metal onto that trailer as well!
Yeah, high idle and a cable adjust is what I thought also.
This is all he needed to hear
Don’t shift it while it is running the prop is a 24p
Where is build wars? The boosted bois are even closer now
Duuuuude we should bring it back!
@@CleetusMHey Cleet, I have to say love your videos and if you do the build wars You should do a boat challenge
EXACTLY
@@CleetusM If you bring back build wars, you should do a dirt race
Not all the boosted boiz are close
Chalanges:
1- top speed
2- figure 8 course
3- slowest to go 100 yards
4- biggest jump/land crossing
You cannot get a more perfect example of a 'Florida Man' then that seller, holy toledo 😂😂
The dude's neighbor is Florida man...
Dude talks so fast and just spits out random information.
At a minimum, I would put the whale find on the outboard. At least give you more controlled trim.
First thing i thought when I watched him move around was meth. Then I saw the boat and it confirmed.
@@fanatic26 glad I wasn't the only one that picked up on that lol. Listed for 5 grand but took 2500, can buy a lotta meth for 2500
Dude was tweeking to hard lol
Coke haul:
See who can pack the most weight and can go the fastest in their boats
“Colombian Cream Cheese” for the UA-cam
@@Holmesy89 Colombian Bam Bam
How about "soft drink", and use Coca Cola? They're Dew fans but you're not supposed to consume what you distribute...
We also need a reverse challenge. How fast can you go in reverse for 100 yards
This times 100, plus doing it with some 80s Miami Vice soundtrack and outfits.
Whatever the challenge is,don't include stoping. The backwash on that boat is brutal. It'll sink in a minute. It's rated for an 85 and it's got that 175 on it.
Hes fine you worry about yourself😂
It really wasn’t that much water. As long as he brings it off plane a bit slower he’s golden and if he doesn’t it’s not enough to sink it.
You clearly know nothing about checkmates... these boats were way over built for the time. Also with a little transom bracing you could practically ha g anything off the back of these. Pretty sure this boat is 18ft and was rated at 185hp. I had an enchanter (20ft) with a 200hp and a predictor (16ft) also with a 200hp. (Was rated at 150hp). The backwash is only horrible because he got completely out of it and it's a low slung boat.
My family had a 16-foot hydrostream that had kind of the same problem, right when the backwash is about to the transom you just give it a blip of throttle to get in front of the wave, worked every time
Cuz it's a race boat brother haha 🤣
No one ever: “Lotta water leakin in here bud, should be fine.”
I’m dead..
That is a coned XR6 gearcase and most likely a 2.5L Mercury. You need to turn the engine off, shift three gear, start it and do engine cut offs for each shift.
Shift interrupter in the control box probably not working. It cuts spark for a second as the shift is made to make life easier on the lower unit.
@@tl1024 def need shift interrupter
Or just adjust the cables properly so it stays at idle when shifting
@@timsorensen2085 that’s not how race boats work. This isn’t a cruiser. Go up to any real racer and tell him he needs to adjust his cables cause his junk won’t shift while running and they’ll laugh you out of the parking lot.
@@78freewheeler this is not a race engine. It's an off the shelf 175 Mariner. (Mercury). Shifting them in gear is totally normal and acceptable when cables are adjusted properly and components are working properly.
"We might take some judgement for this"
Cleetus, You've built this entire channel not giving a flying F what anyone thinks of your equipment!
Cleet just found this deal and said “I’m about to make a game and smoke these guys”
Lmao thought of that
That prop.... not enough pitch.
🤣🤣
I hope Jackstand calls up Finnegan to “buy” Game Over.
Rent game over maybe 😉
Wheelies and water don't end well.
Or just for a lead if there is something for sale around georgia.
You couldn’t even buy the exhaust stacks on a boat like Finnegan’s for $2,500.
I know we’re not here watching a masters course in the use of quotations. I thought most people would understand the “buy” to be a joke.
Every Florida man incident, Maddie increases the life insurance on ol' Cleeter
Trim all the way down before trying to take off. Then give it all the throttle and trim up little by little until you feel the front lift. Be smooth with the counter steering. Trim down before just letting off the throttle. If the prop shaft is below the pad, there’s no need to run the chopper prop. Chopper prop is designed to run on the surface. You have the lower unit for it. Most importantly BE CAREFUL. That boat is no where near 700lbs. That motor is 300-350lbs.
I have a much simpler version. Throttle all the way out the hole then ease off the throttle. Your right about the weight which is why at lower throttle it rides so nose up.
I'm a motorcycle guy, but only own a jet ski as of now. (Boat in the process) What counter steering does a boat need?
@@liveandletlive2894 that entirely depends on the prop and the motor.
@@liveandletlive2894 Steering inputs to prevent chine walk once the boat is up on the pad.... if that boat will even go fast enough to need it. Search chine walk for all the info
@@aj06bolt12r thanks
“We dont have a drain plug”
2 min earlier the guy said the plugs in the back of the boat so it must have flew out 😂
fr 😂
Trim the motor all the way down when you're coming out of the hole and start trimming up when your about on plane.
That boat is the most “Florida” thing I have ever seen.
the FREEDOM FLAMINGO
Down to the trailer for it haha
So was the former owner! 😂
From one of the most genuine Florida men I've ever seen.
Adjust the gear and throttle cable so the revs don’t rise as your putting it in gear or you will be needing that Spare bottom unit real quick 👍😂
I think the spare is the "broken one" from the previous owner 😂
This needs to be at the top.
I feel like he also needs a hydraulic jackplate and a different lower unit gearing or a prop...seems like it has plenty of power for the prop once it's rolling though. Could just be motor height too.
@@TalkinTech I really don't think he had it trimmed down when they were first trying to plane off.
@@Jcprevat I don't think so either. Ol' Cleeter isn't the best at running trim, he finally got a bit better on his jetboat now.
Put some Flex Seal on that Transome. I've seen it work on waterproofing a boat before! 😆
Never thought I would see a giraffe on a flamingo. 😆
Hahahahaha! There ya go!😂🤣
hahaha that boat seller is the most prime example of a FL man I've ever seen. Speaking so fast cant even keep up lol. Love it. Dude would probably give you the shirt off his back in a pinch though, good ppl
And load a bowl of meth lmao
My guy was cruising on all the meth! Love the neck tat!
Being a Florida man myself these days, I know WAY too many meth heads and no, they are NOT good people.
You mean he'd try to take it off your back for a hit of meth. If you think that is what "good ppl" is no wonder this country is going to shit.
James: “that prop (shakes head) not enough pitch” 😂😂😂☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
Cleet word of advice. If you want maximum top end. trim the bad boy up while boating until it starts to cavitate. Then bump her down slightly and you'll get maximum performance.
" is this going to be good for my family?
I'm like absolutely not" my new favorite line 😂😂
Finally an honest boat salesman !
😂😂
As a displaced south Floridian, loving the boat content.
Straight up tweaker deal… I’m surprised his yard doesn’t look like his neighbors 😂
That neighbor's yard probably was his, he moved the boat to the neighbors house while they was at work to make a sale 😂😂
Thing is, that was his place and he took the trailer next door to sell 🤣🤣
@@ilouse Haha! I was thinking the same thing!
This folks is what we call a meth head!
It did look like the neighbors house but he done traded and sold it all for that gogo juice. When Cleetus said $2500 that guy was started figuring right then that's 7 days and 7 nights.
Could be a sweet little setup for 2500$
Defiantly need to adjust the shift and throttle cables, bleed the steering, and try trimming that motor all the way in before jumping on plane then trimming out as you increase in speed. The motor could prolly come down a couple holes on that manual jackplate as well
Ole boy didn’t want you to dry start it. Might have woken up the owner of the boat before he could run off with the cash. 😂
It’s extremely bad for the water pump!
Lmfao
@@jimmycline4778 He had a flush attachment if he had a boat
Don’t underestimate James when he smiles like that!
No way they will get anywhere near 70mph for $2500 lol
I said the same thing james got something similar.
@@JohnnyAnderson1 Florida is full of drug addicts selling shit. Dont be surprised if he gets something better
@@Thedude897 lol
@@Thedude897 BRB on my way to florida
Dude, your shift cable it out of adjustment. That's why it is "idling" so fast and so hard to get into reverse.
It's probably a completely wrong cable
probably tuned/modified to race only, some of them simply disliked shifting into reverse if setup tight for best forward control. but who knows, it could just be an abortion.
after hearing it more, something is very silly there, maybe the wrong control for it, bad control or shifter/throttle cables swapped?
Naw that’s how Mercury’s are they grind just have to shift fast the reason it is moving so fast just clutched in is because it has a big speed prop on it hence why it’s slow planing off . It’s not idled to high it’s just moving a ton of water put a power prop on it and it will move slow clutched in !
dude also didn't use the shift button on the underside of the shift lever
You kinda just have to bang it into reverse with a mercury, you can’t put it into reverse slow
You're welcome Garrett. Glad your happy with my boat
When your towel drain plug leaks less than the rest of your boat you know you got .....a good deal.
The seller was straight geeking! That $2500 made him king pin for a week!
🤣 dude did a line off a strippers crack that night im sure
@@codyology He stole that boat from a stripper the night before
That mariner is no joke they rip actually the setup isn’t bad. The hole shot and cavitation don’t sound horrible. It’s all throttle and trim. Don’t air her out too much. Get a hot foot 👌
And stop crunching that gearbox
The set up is horrible I've talked to the guy to have him set it up right befor he sold it
yes, agreed, if you lack experience with a fast outboard motor boat itcan hurt you real fast, I've seen 18 ft bass boats trimmed out to high and blow over. once was in February and the water was damn cold, we all jumped in our boats to go to him and didn't trim the motor dawn and did like this boat of cletes, just poured the gas out the carbs in front
@@bigdaddykeithcarter1624 So true! My friend's uncle is a pro bass fisherman (fishes FLW and MLF now...and has made a GREAT living doing it). His tournament boat in '99 (I think) was a Bumblebee with a 200 FICHT on it and it's the only boat he's had try to come over on him from lifting so high. Hot foot saved him that day. Still the fastest boat he's ever run as his personal boat but the Bass Cat Cougar he's running now with the new 250 V8 Mercury is the second fastest he's had. I'm sure he's happy to not be getting passed nearly as much running the Bass Cat after running Ranger (mostly 520's) for 20 years. As a bass boat owner myself I cringe at how some run theirs and am glad I'm not riding with them driving like some of them do.
100% gotta learn that trim. And a hot foot just might save your life one day.
That was a pretty good deal; I don’t know about US prices but here in Greece, the motor alone would’ve been worth that amount. New gelcoat, interior refit, screen, new seats… for another 1000-1500 depending on how much you do yourself, I reckon you’d have a great fun boat on your hands. Mine looked like that when I bought it.
Cleetus is now legitimately taking up the reigns of Top Gear. God speed.
10 minutes after you left, that $2500 went directly to Florida's finest meth.
10 days after he left - dude had nothing.. And was pissed he sold the boat. Crazy 10 days though. Basically seemed like one day, since there was no sleep in that time, naturally.
@@davidhayes2567 Its a registered boat, Im sure the title was included. I think Ole Cleet is more financially responsible than that.
@@MegaOshimo Very true, very true.
Lets be honest, at least he's hustling for it
The guy 2 doors down with all the tweaked out shit in his yard.
Need to adjust them shifter and throttle cables brother! Costs nothing and will save that lower unit. Don't be afraid to shift it into gear quickly. That's how they operate 👍
All of the advice on trim for launch is spot on 👌
quickly in gear with that prop will break it just saying
INSANE that Cleetus rips this unit the first hour of purchase. No life jackets or seatbelts. Completely reckless. LOVE!
@Cleetus McFarland I've been a sub for years. Hope the algorithm shows that. Cheers!
Imagine getting low balled and then the buyer shows up with an $85,000 truck
Meth will make you do things
Always could’ve said no 🤷🏻♂️😅
Most people would think about how much more money they could get for the boat, this man was simply thinking about how much meth he can get for 2500 and how quick he could get the money to do so.
Low-balling others is how you afford an $85k truck...when you don't own your own race track anyway.
He didn't get low balled because he took it the guy knew he was not going to get 5 grand for that thing. Not looking like that anyway
Trailer has some decent weight reduction , it’s a race trailer for a race boat🤘🤘
Be right up vice grips alley !!
Speedweld it..
All for $2500 😂
a little JB Weld an it’ll be brand new
It might need another fence post lmao
Cletus, you need to see a person that knows about outboard racing, these aren't jet boats, these boats will hurt you if you don't know what you are doing,let off the gas slow,with the prop torque sometimes they pitch sideways, trim it under when you take off, all the way on the throttle, it might cavitation a little but it will get on plane quicker, you have a boat that you need instruction on it
This was one my fav series. Bought the boat from a tweaker, no plug, towel in the hole, OFF TO THE WATER!
Who knew Joe Exotic’s son was a Florida man with a sketchy boat
Lol. I'm assuming there is a reason this boat was only $2500. A running 175 outboard is worth a lot more than that...
Bc j.e. was a Florida man from Florida
That was the sketchiest boat deal I’ve ever seen 😂😂
illbet he didnt event get papers dude might have stole it from his buddy
I'll bet it was a don't ask, don't tell on the title paperwork 😂
Oh for sure lol he got a spicy unit tho
BE CAREFUL! At speeds above 70 mph that boat will “Chinewalk”. (Rocking left and right). Extremely dangerous if you don’t catch it right away. Letting off the throttle at the wrong time, the boat will hook and throw you out!
Sounds like fun, bring it! Famous last words...
awesome deathtrap cleet! sell that spare lower for a fiberglass kit, build up the rear a bit and seal up the leaks + drop a few lead bricks in the nose.
Just a tip, I have had boats with similar hulls and speed and have had to add weight to the bow to prevent "Chine walking" before. Used a sand bag or 2, some of these boats have the fuel tank in the bow for this very reason
rarely would anyone add weight *especially at the bow*. adjust balance via setback and also different props produce different bow lift, etc. additionally, chine walk is all in the motor mounts, steering, and drivers ability. a boat must be well setup and learn to be flown.
@@SuperWaterskiboy Well obviously changing other dynamics of the boat would have some affect on chine walk, but for all practical purposes adding a little weight or shifting weight around is used in almost every Motorsport known to man.
Even James has added weight to his car to prevent wheelies instead of going back and resetting up the car.
V bottoms of that size are super sketchy above 70mph no matter what you do. They want to veer one way or another. Tunnel hull is best on smooth water.
@@SuperWaterskiboy your spot on but most of these tweakers wont get it ....lol
@@JohnnyAnderson1 small amounts like 10 or 20 lb not a 70 lb sandbag lol
Are we just going to glaze over the part where the neighbors had a car on its side in the yard lol
What in the what? I'll be back once I look that over one mer tiiimee!
Welcome to the meth side of Florida.
What a crap hole neighbor to live next to.
I think it just goes with the territory, just blends in.
That guy who sold the boat has never done meth with the neighbour with the cars, I promise......
Bruh you summed that up perfectly xD
As challenge, race from startpoint to like a mark, there you have to make a TIGHT 180 so it bogs down and have to start over from not planing.
2. Slalomcourse, with lemans start from swimming. Hi speed checkerdflag.
3. Puttning it in water AT best time.
4. A timecourse with 2 different driver (2 separat laps), drivingchange on land (1 person on land AT all Times. Motor off AT change.
Matti, sweden
Obviously one challenge should be how the lady's like it. Basically the whole point of a boat
If the ladies dont like it you throw em overboard.
Why else would you buy a boat?
@@zachaliles I know right hahah
Wait.. You can put them on the water???
She likes anything that's fast and sketchy, she'll love it.....
When James says " that prop...not enough pitch" I almost dropped my phone laughing 🤣
Hey brother those boats tbh will scare the bald eagles out of you once it gets over 80+ they tend to wanna fly over so please be careful cleet we don’t want you hurt on some dumb 2500$ boat accident! And the plane issue is just how those boats are with that prop you gotta gas it wide open let off then gas it again and it’ll plane easier
Get this comment to the top!
this thing will never be anywhere near 80 so ....lolololol more worried the motor will fall off and boat hooks and throws them out
@@craigbielsky115 lol I know brother but he loves nitrous and you never know they love to flip over
I love that fact that none of you guys know shit about boats=the best content ever!!!
“Not enough pitch” Jackstand always the optimist.
He was just messing with him lol
McFarland marine is gonna be the next top race boat team
Now he has to buy a marine to keep all these boats when they get into something they jump in feet fist big time
He need him one of them v8 powered short course jet boats
A timed lap while pulling Squirrel and Alec in a tube, timed maneuverability at speed test with 10 seconds penalty if you hit the bouy, Party Barge...how many friends can fit on without falling off or sinking.
Bro it's a Ripper.....
Once again you've amazed me.
A little bit of TLC, and I think some people are going to be Envious ....
Good job Cleeter👍
1. Drag race from dead stop. 2. Out and back around a buoy (flying or dead stop). 3. timed Slalom with buoys. 4. tubing (subjective judgment by the tuber). 5. who can fit the most beer ( Mnt Dew) cans in and around the boat while remaining sea-going
“Dude, it’s a race boat, I don’t care about the cosmetics” 😂😂😂
he started getting mad there 🤣🤣
I have a feeling JackStand is going to buy a 14 feet tall NOS bottle and ride on that. All nitros. No prop needed
I love these Top Gear like challenges. Florida man style.
This video is pure Florida man content
All boat motors smoke when you crank em! They’re all running on mixed fuel if there older engines like that one. It’s a V6, two stroke engine which they no longer make anymore. The new motors are 4 stroke and V8 if you buy a new mercury that’s big. Mariner and Mercury are the same thing basically! I actually like the 2 stroke, V6s myself but the EPA made these engine manufactures stop building engines in this configuration because of the unburnt fuel and emissions. The new 4 stroke, V8s are much heavier than the older 2 stroke, V6s. The older engines would jump of the hole much faster because they are so much lighter but the new engines do run much faster top end. Most of your drag boat racers still run the 2 stroke, V6 Mercury motor. However, everything will eventually go to the heavier 4 stroke, V8 because that’s all they make, the new motors last longer, and they’re making much more power now. Mercury has a 450 V8 now, heck they even have a 600 4 stroke, V12 now that weighs like 1600-1800 lbs if I remember correctly. Boat motors have evolved a lot over the past few years now that they have went to 4 stroke engines.
Same with motorcycles and other powersports. The 2 strokes basically perform as well as 4 strokes with twice the displacement and weigh much less.
you can still buy 2t outboards.... epa never said you couldn't make and sell 2t it's just far easier to get the emission standards with 4t
Also that Merc 600 is $80k.
Everyone loves some racing videos. But these boat videos just hit a little different. Every video I watch on this channel is much worth my time of day.
SICK !!! like a Lotus in water !!, Flex Seal that Baby , .... JB Weld & Fiber glass and Chassis Bond that Trailer back together
Challenge: who can make it back and forth through Haulover Inlet?
Too bad that trailer won’t make it all the way across the state to even try it!
Now this is a great idea!
This is a killer idea. Probably literally 😂
Are you insane ?
@@Edub-em3rr possible work around, borrow JH’s flatbed and tow the whole thing down there on that…
That dude did an eight ball before y’all showed up 😂😂
Straight facts
yeah mans was straight tweakin
And he just got 2500 cash so you know hes about to have a crazy 2 days
You can adjust the reverse and forward gear engagement from the motor, there is a proper process for it, shouldnt take you too long. Will help with the grinding of the gears.
Trailer slalom and race to launch
Tube pull
Drag from a dig to a quater mile
Race to the keys (240 mile trip)
Fuel economy run
And of course a top speed run
Last one is offroad race pulling the trailers with crown vics at the freedom factory like you guys did with the cheap cars
Ya need to have that trim adjusted ALL THE WAY DOWN for the hole shot, it MIGHT plane out the quickest also with the trim all the way down......AND/OR: experiment with trim adjustments as you accelerate to get it to plane out the quickest.......once ya get her on plane as soon as possible, you keep trimming up to gain even more speed. Takes a little practice to find all the sweet spots with each hull design/boat motor combo. Also TRIM DOWN at the same time you're slowing down to keep the boat from porpoising ( nose hopping ). When ya slow to a stop, watch the wake, so that it doesn't swamp the transom. Goose the throttle a little if & when ya see the wake is about to swamp the ass end. That trailer is dangerous as hell. Buy the PFD's (life vest ) with the CO2 cartridges. They cost more, but they are the least bulky of all life vest/PFD's, & more comfortable to wear.
Also that prop that’s on it is for top end speed, even when you trim it correctly it’s gonna be slow!
I think your a little too invested in this man 🤪
@@yeahnahyeah7872 Probably just doesn’t want to see Cleeter kill himself in this thing.
@@yeahnahyeah7872 not a bad thing. These are extremely dangerous and cleet clearly doesn’t know what he’s doing
This whole video made me nervous because of the way he was trimming it… 😁
That trailer is pretty meth'd up.
- Drag Race
- time to plane
- turning/slow maneuver
- measure how much water each boat took on at end of day
-how much air it can catch
-biggest wake
-biggest rooster tail
plane*.... my friend
Also a lemans style start for one of the races
@@jimihendrix225 thx guy 👍
@@jakelowe3526 👍🏼
My first boat was a 1979 Hydrostream. With a 2.4L outboard Merc 2stroke. Supposedly/ Allegedly the boat would do 100mph.
I definitely got it to 65mph before breaking all the rotted out stringers that I didn't know about.
I cut the boat up years later. But I still have the engine and all the parts&pieces of anyone wants it. Make ya a hell of a deal.