Can This Actually Power My House?? Anker SOLIX F3800
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Does the unit isolate the incoming ripple while it is supplying house power? It's important that it does that for safety reasons. (Delicering power to the external grid will waste your stored energy and risk electrocuting anyone who is repairing a failed grid supply.) Many household battery storage systems cannot isolate from the grid, and they simply switch off when the mains supply fails.
As a confirmed infrastructure geek and amateur residential electrician, hearing about home electrical infrastructure is one of my favorite things. Thanks for sharing your setup with us (even if it was effectively a 16 minute ad for Anker). 👍
When storms where forecasted. Mom use to fill the bath tub with water. So we had a bucket to 'flush' the toilet when the power went out. Since we also had a well.
1:55 bro flipped us off
Thought he was slick 😂
Are you serious, God made fingers to do a job, and in this mans case, explaining powerful information by pointing out things. That middle finger is the longest finger on our hands, and at times we use it to point to something, or turn off and on something, or tap something for cases like POS (Point OF Sales) type things. Man created the act of pointing ones middle finger as something derogatory, disrespect, or diss. This man is doing an awesome job showing us his living space and great content that many will take it as a lesson, a very useful lesson indeed. Why would a man put together a very useful video that many will learn from and disrespect his viewers by meaning to with his own God given hand and fingers?
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I live in NE FL. Our record for power outages is 12 days. Since I installed the Generac LP gas back up generator, we haven't gone more than 40 hours. Being careful not to over load the system, I can run the life support system, aka HVAC, and lights and TV and computers for two weeks or more, depending on load. I won't try to broil steaks and run the washer and dryer at the same time as the HVAC. Geoff Who is prepared.
Just a reminder with your internet.
In a true power outage the junction boxes will lose power and you’ll have to rely on 5g/Lte (until those run out of power too. Most have upses that aren’t made for long outages) and lastly fall back to starlink.
I built my first house 15 years ago and was looking at 20000 to get power to me. To get by, I wired in an inverter and a few batteries to my generator just for charging the batteries, and the results shocked me. I couldn't believe how easy it was even then to get power. I ended up building my system up and never needed power brought in.
I've built myself another home now and spent almost 5000 dollars to have 220 volts with 25,000 watt hrs and 15,000 watts with a 60000 watt surge. All my appliances are normal, including electric water heater.
If I were you, I would put in a water tank and pressure tank to your home. It shouldn't reguire constant power to have water. That way, your well only runs occasionally, even every few days if you set it up that way. Your pressure tank then can then draw from storage, running a small pump to cycle, and maintain pressure. That's how I do it, except my storage comes from rain water.
Making your own power and utilities gets addicting. Also, i dont sell my power back. That is a mistake people make. You can't have batteries, the grid is your battery, and your system has to be larger than you need to break even. It's funny also that i only know the power is out when I hear the phone company tower generator start off in the distance.
What did you use exactly? I have the 12kWh ankar solix system for back up power but am also planning to build in land I have.
@MountainBikeBabe you gave a great inverter. You can find used solar panels cheap. You just need batteries and mppt charge controllers. I have 14 150 amp hour batteries and 10,000 watts in solar with 15 kw inverter 1nd 5 charge controllers for around 4000. I can weld, have a normal fridge, washer and dryer with rain water collection, electric water heater, and 2 55-inch tvs, plus a projector. I have a few tricks to conserve power but did not even have to run a generator for backup charging on the shortest snowiest days this year. I even run an electric space heater in the mornings when it's too warm for a fire, but cold without any heat. I'm not bragging, but I want people to know how easy and cheap it can be. Not having a house payment or any utility bills helped me retire early and enjoy life more. The crazy thing is when you get out of the rat race, you have more opportunity in what you enjoy doing to make more money at it, doing things you're good at, than most people do will work for a cooperation to have a steady paycheck.
I used a lot of cheaper charge controllers below their power rating instead of 1 expensive one. That way, if one goes out, I can easily replace it and keep spares. Plus, I still get enough power from the rest. It has been trouble-free, though, and can run anything.
@@scottcummings8074 my plan is to build a rammed earth house. It’s on a creek that has a level drop also for hydro charging and nice sound. It’s always sunny here too. There is a guy in Tucson teaching high end, rammed earth building; he has built large, commercial, multi story buildings. I like the way the rammed earth feels. Plus it’s less upkeep on the exterior, easy to keep cool in the summer and warm in the winter. No paint, no stucco, not sure what I will use for the roof yet. Maybe one of the canopy things they use in Joshua tree so the roof is shielded completely from the sun. ☀️ I’m also going to shield all the lines so there is zero emf.
@@scottcummings8074 my biggest hog is going to be the air conditioning. Some of the air a swap cooler is better because it’s too dry. I also have extra freezers.
@MountainBikeBabe I live at a high elevation, so a small swamp cooler is plenty. I do have a 400 sq foot portable ac that i can run during hot sunlight hours. I put a timer on my fridge and water heater to shut off at night. I keep the fridge and freezer full of water bottles or food, so it stays cold until morning, and I can bypass my waterheater timer with a light switch if I need it late. You really almost wouldn't know I'm not connected.. the only problem I have had is I never know if the power is out in my area, lol.
HelloTrent, We Like Your show, always Good,, I am retired in Dominican Republic and Living 25 years here semi off grid, with a similar system, I also have a similar water system, I think You should raise Your Tank on a Platform so You can Gravity Feed the water to the House. Best Regards 🛩
Awesome video dude. I work for a large railroad in the signal dept. Long story short i manage a department that is responsible for the crossing gates and signals that control train traffic. With that said I have some experience with electronics, specifically with standby power. I have been begging for my solar standalone sites to get away from commercial power at more of our remote sites. I have 2 locations that have ran on solar and wind generator for over 5 years without a hiccup. I’m very interested in the off grid power supply and found your video very interesting. So this video was something I can relate to even though I watch your videos for the aviation side of the world. I also got my Part 107 after watching your videos and have started my ground school for my Private Pilot certificate. Ive been watching your content for 4yrs plus and enjoy it immensely. Your home is beautiful and you are inspiring, thank you Trent.
For whatever it’s worth, I have had 17kva Generac backup for 10+ years. 92 hours of standby use. Longest outage was about a week. Very seldom are outages less than half a day.
Minnesota.
I have the exact same unit installed back in 08. Runs off natural gas, has been obsurdly reliable. Run for 3 days straight after a winter storm, sure was nice having power that pretty much matched the line power usage, so no need to adjust lifestyle to generator output, so it's like the outage never happened. Powered by natural gas or propane reduces the maintenance and significantly increases the service life of these units.
If you want to run a/c on your backup you can put a soft start on it and nearly halve the inrush amps on start up so you backup can handle it better. I know you said you had a heat pump so not sure if it would be same set up or if you even need a soft start for it but may look into it.
Very cool thanks for the tour and education!
Well done! That's important stuff to know! Thanks Trent!
I keep looking at this even though I’m in a rental house right now, but the portable system alone with panels looks appealing. Especially since I already have a generator, a hybrid system is what I keep thinking about. I also have several smaller anker inverters and they are fantastic. As well as building a home-brew 100ah battery and inverter box just for fun.
Some people put a Pressure Tank in the water line so the pump doesn't cycle too often. It feeds pressurized water until the pressure drops low enough for the pump to come on and fill the Pressure Tank again.
Yup, this is critical for most applications.
He is running a variable speed pump hence the small pressure tank.
Very cool.
That's what I have and hence my comment above. I can't imagine NOT having it.
We bought a HONDA 7000is quiet inverter and Generlink transfer switch. The lithium power bank is quite limited in terms of duration.
When we have ice storms we are without power for days. Wind events have been weeks without power.
We run a hybrid. All generators are very inefficient at small percentage of capacity loads. Even inverter generators. Our inverter starts the generator at 25% and cuts it off at 75% SOC. It's set to run the generator at it's maximum efficiency (g/kwh) load. It hybrids the solar and the generator. During the week long outages we get, our fuel consumption went down tremendously. Nearly by half, with the AC running. During the winter outages, it was more dramatic, with ~15% consumption.
@@BadHaddyexactly, the hybrid setup is the way
It’s best if you have both. Run the house off the battery and only run the generator when you need to recharge the battery. A friend has such a setup and the generator runs less than 1 hours per day. Initially he used it for over a year before power lines were actually run to his remote house.
@@mlehky this, been trying to get a friend who has an 11kw military diesel genny on a trailer to adopt this method.
A Gas / Diesel Auto Start Gen is a good way to go too, I worry about the duration of battery banks. I have seen the power off from the grid for two weeks, or more.
A battery bank is probably good for you Guys as you get it free, however if you are paying you might as well get a proper back-up system.
A tank that can run a generator for 2 weeks nonstop is going to be massive. And expensive to fill. A normal 120 gallon tank would be empty in 2 days. You would need 500+ gallons to even begin thinking about a week + of endurance.
@@tartredarrowso you think a normal generator like Trent might use would use an average of four gallons of fuel per hour over a 24 hour period? I think there are generators that can do much better than that.
@@larrylaitner3473 dude said auto start generator. Yes. Propane doesn't go as far as gasoline.
On standby use my 17kva Generac uses 5-6 gallons (20lbs) propane per 24 hours. I don’t know what the average wattage draw is.
Cool setup... That same storm knocked out power out for 14hours, and my Honda EU2000 always saves the day... There were not fancy battery options back when I went the gas genset option...
Cool little back up, but anytime I"ve experienced a power outage (other than directly in the middle of the city), it has always lasted well beyond 3 hours. Sometimes it can take 1, 2, 3 days before power comes back on. If you're in a location where power outages are common enough that you need a back up power unit, and access to essentials such as water rely on power, I don't think this little thing has enough juice.
We have load shedding in South Africa, up to 12 hours per day, so far. 😂 since 2007.
Did you look into a propane or diesel standby generator? No runtime issues.
Mate - this was surely sent for free.
Yes, that is assumed. What will it take in auxiliary batteries to support the property for let’s say 12 hours? A more reasonable scenario.
Hello from Minnesota! Good episode!
Yes!, this is an Important Topic. I ordered a 521 which is Anker's smallest unit. It keeps my rechargeable devices smartly charged plus light load AC as well as 13.3vdc. My nephew added a system to his home in Flagstaff which, in a power outage, will heat the water pipes in his attic to keep them from freezing. You got yourself a great system.
I read about your mega Snow storms in the US and Yep the Old Boy Scout motto "Be Prepared" is a good one to follow. . Regards, Jim the Brit in NI UK
Hey Trent, another great video. Thanks for your hard work. I was wandering when your next FAA hearing is, if one has been scheduled yet?
Hi from Evergreen Colorado. We got 4 feet, then 6 inches 3 more times. So a VERY very heavy ~4feet (maybe 5 depending how you measure). Our plow truck is a John Deere 772G Motor Grader and it’s really having a hard time with 6x6 chains. With the 772G we hope to be out by this weekend and it snowed Wednesday night.
1.65KW is basically like 2Horsepower. 1Kw = 1.3HP.
You could build a water tower and put the water tank on that.
Then gravity feed to the house from there, no power required.
I would love to do that! The issue is I think you need 2ft of head for every PSI, so it would have to be 100-120ft up in the air to get proper pressure
@@TrentonPalmer sounds like a good colab opportunity for heavydsparks!
Thank you, I think so the best option!
This is wild Trent, we were skiing in Tahoe the week this hit. Barely got into Reno on Thursday and skied Friday through Monday. A lot of white out conditions but amazing skiing.
What about the fridge? Is that hooked up to the battery in your garage too? If so, what is the kW draw when the fridge starts asking for power?
These work well for short term outages. However, for multi-day outages there needs to be a way to recharge and sometime one may live where solar is not an option. We have a natural gas generator that has run for several days at a time when the power goes out. Of course, this means gas must be available. Our main need is to keep the water running and the furnace functioning especially during the winter.
Thanks ❣️🤗
I just got to say I love the panoramic thumbnail of the front of your house it just takes the cool Factor to 11
Just turning on a faucet shouldn't turn on your pump. Most systems have a pressure tank. Most setups turn on at 30 pounds and off at 50, some are 40-60. At any rate, your pressure tank is pumped with air up to 2 pounds below the turn-on pressure so 28 or 38 pounds depending on how yours is configured. If your pump comes on as soon as you turn the faucet on, it means all of the air has drained out of your tank and if you have a bladder tank, your bladder is probably busted. You should check this air pressure twice per year. You turn the pump off, drain all the water, check the air pressure and pump it up to 2 pounds below the turn on if it's low, then turn the pump back on. All of to say that you probably didn't see an increase in power usage just by turning the faucet on, you'll need to run it long enough for the pump to come on.
Wonderful product
Just installed one with two extra batteries. Should be good for a day or so with that when trying to conserve and not run everything possible. We also have a well so know the struggles with that.
Careful here.. the well tank inside the house has reserve pressure and will run for while awhile until it requires more water from the well and its pressure drops to zero.
I’ve ordered a Solix for my cabin up in Idaho.
Nice! How many panels do you plan to run? Or just the battery alone?
IF in any way you use a Generator of any type make sure you have a Co-Gen switch.........DO NOT Back Feed the power Company Lines and kill a Lineman !
Use Generlink
You are becoming a pitch man Trent.
$3000 for 3 hours of power is a HORRIBLE investment! Spent $600 for gasoline generator which will run indefinitely as long as you have gas.
Gas isn’t free, neither is “inconvenience”! 😊
The lithium battery last up to 10 years look at the video
Where can I get a gas generator for $600?
I do believe that if you were truly into off grid stuff you would have put solar panels on your hanger and possible a wind turbine or two with the wind you have. Great product though, thanks for the info!
Trent great video. 2 Questions. 1st is there a built in safety switch which prevents power from back flowing into the grid system thereby energizing the upstream transformer on the utility pole? 2nd question is how does the cost compare to a whole house propane generator system?
Been looking for a video for the home power panel forever.
Did you have to get a permit for installing ?
I would like to understand how the power flows from the battery to the main load center
I don’t know what this system costs and it only runs 3 hour?? We put in a Generac 22kw standby generator fueled by our propane tank. Generator and install was under $8,000.00. It runs the house, shop and 2 wells. In the winter we’ve got to keep the cows watered and this system will do that. Our longest power outage was an ice storm that took out power for 7 days. Temperature never got over freezing. Generac gives us peace of mind.
hey @Trent if i wanted to build a website as easily as you installed that back up power system what should i use??
5:17 if you ever have to redo the power, would it be better to do solar for the well?
Just saw you at HF. I was in the check out line otherwise I would have said hi and that I like your content! Enjoy the weather!
I’d like to know how the system did when you need to run your well instead of just the jockey pump from the holding tank for house pressure.
Really need to look into propane powered Generac. I live on the Gulf coast and when hurricanes come sometimes we loose power for over a week . My system runs my whole house
Excellent !
Would love to see more "off grid" power vids like this if you get a chance. Also if you ever look into solar or similar. Thanks
I been off the grid for 7.5 years now using Chevy volt batteries 72kwh's of them. System paid its self off in 5.5 years. It's not that hard to do these days.
15:44.... Noticed a couple of robotic Husqvarna lawn mowers.... Can we get your opinion on those sometime? Love the idea of using the solix as seasonal cabin power...
yes, me to
Who makes those shelves in your garage?! Love them!
Possible safety issue.... what part automatically disconnects your home backup circuit from city power? So in event of a power outage, your battery isn't powering your neighbourhood, downed lines, power workers etc. Your test was good, you manually turned off the main breaker coming into your property.
When did you shoot this? I drove up your way the other day and that snow is all gone. I guess I never really thought about production lead times.
What is the model of the unit that is on the wall the one that turn on the station automatic ?
If someone gave me that system I would promote it. I’m a no body, so no one is going to give me anything. It’s funny how the people who can afford to buy it, are given it. Where those that can’t, don’t. Let’s get back to flying.
Did you get instructions on connecting the smart home panel to your main breaker panel? I want to purchase the system, but I’m not an electrician and I need to be able to share the info with my electrician so he can do it. Thanks, Tony .
How long before Trent gets a nice ~20kW Generac automatic generator system? Only ~$20K Trent… Comon…
Not sure how long ago you filmed this but we have snow today at Red Rock in Las Vegas. Crazy
Would be great to see more of the winter storm footage from your area 😎
Looks like a decent alternative to generac
At that kind of load, the unit will provide electricity for about 2 hours. Running one 1000 Watt heater will allow for about 3½ hours of heating. Useful for short-term power outages, but no good if you're off grid for several days.
As someone who live in S. FL where we are always getting bad storms and we have had outages that have lasted over 2 weeks. ( Irma left us without power for 17 days, thanks FPL). So your 3.5 hour battery life is something you really need to think about. Since this was a sponsored video you made the best of it, but that system is only going to be good for keeping your water running and not much else. You need to get a whole home backup generator that runs on diesel or some type of gas that you can have delivered into a large tank. Or get solar panels to recharge the batteries in that thing.
Even with solar it won’t last that long in Florida. Our draws are huge with how hard the AC works here. 17 days is an awesome restoration time for the amount of damage Irma did.
We were out for little over 2 weeks as well. I wonder if this would work with the dual solar panel option, maybe not running the AC but at least kitchen, lights, and fans. Our wonderful HOA doesn’t allow the whole home generators on outside of the structure. But I could throw some panel in backyard while powers out 🤙
@@FlyingCobalt That stinks about the HOA rule considering how often storms hit our state and leave us without power.
@@FlyingCobalt The OP is clearly not knowledgeable about these systems at all. I've lived offgrid for a long time, and have lots of practical, real world experience, as well as engineering experience. 3.5 hours isnt what these run. they have 3.8kwh. So you can run a 3.8kw load for 1 hour, or a 380w load for 10 hours, or a 38w load for 100 hours. (minus their idle power and effeciency for the inverter, which is usually 10-20w and 10-ish percent depending on load) With the max 2.4kw of solar in florida, as long as the sun is up, you can run a window AC unit with these. so during the hottest parts of the day, full time AC. Once the sun goes down, for a 8000btu inverter unit, with a 700 watt draw, you've got about 6 hours. It will keep a bedroom very comfortable at night. But the unit will probably cycle at about 50% duty, so closer to 12. The solar will make an excess 8500 wh per day while running that AC unit. To me, that sounds like an expansion pack would make good sense. which means about 12 hours at full draw, or 24 hours at part-time draw. Add in solar charging, and you'd be 100% during a storm.
Not running a small AC unit, you have a crapload of power... More than enough to run a freezer or fridge, and fans, lights, radios, tv, cpap, etcetc.
of course, if your system is JUST for home, there's other options, like the sungold rack kits, that offer 4x the storage capacity in a less portable format.
@@joshuashackelford6696 Inverter window unit in one room, is what we did, to keep the edge off. Keep the humidity down as much as possible, much lower draw. The unit can control a generator, so we hybridized it. Read the manual, found the engine's VE curve, and set the battery pack to pull/charge at maximum efficiency. Reduced our fuel usage by half, with the AC, and 85% without.
I was thinking back on your well issues and how complicated your water situation is. I was wondering if your cistern was in a heated building or not? I see it just sits out and is fine with that.
Just speculating, but it is a large tank that is black and is sitting under good tree coverage, they would have to have some prolonged cold weather to have any issues with freezing
@@ad4141
I live in Ohio, we have to protect everything from freezing.
We built a house and drilled a well. I remember what we did and knew the lift a well pump could do. His well is magnitudes of electrical and water pressure complexity greater than mine. I am very impressed with his well setup.
I still want to know if the mountain lion has come back to his pond.
You should have a backup diesel generator for safety's sake. I'm sure you can get a 7.5 kW milsup for a small bag of peanuts.
I guess you need at least 12 hr backup power. I used online ups before these things invented for tv, adsl, and pc for often cutouts.
You need a storage tank and pump at your house to give you some extra water capacity without having to run a 480v transformer just to have water on demand. You could easily have a small 120/240v pump if the tank is right next to the house. You only need to run the big one to refill the storage tank.
Thats what his system has, he showed it to us.
random question unrelated to this video. Which kitfox is your plane? im looking at kitfoxs rn dreaming lol.
Now I'm trying to decide to get this or Ecoflows Delta 2 Pro now. I have EcoFlows Delta 2 thats 1024 Wh, and as far as Anker, I bought 6of their portable cellphone chargers rated 10,000 mAh , and that was 10 years ago , and it was a life saver for my then Samsung Galaxy S6.
What is the lifespan of the battery system? Does it degrade with usage?
They seem better than a Tesla Powerwall and other such types. Very versatile. Good review Trent.
Can you run the hvac slim ducts? Any or all zones? Guessing 1-2kw? How long does it run them? Haha nevermind!! you just brought it up
Would a diesel generator not do the same job, and be a lot cheaper too?
The winds were really the worst part. Not counting the wind blown drifts we probably got 4ft at lake level. But the drifts on the north east sides of the house were big. Took me 2.5 hours to dig out our 12x16ft deck that had chest high drift snow.
Been watching these portable battery systems Anker and Bluetti. Fortunately we didn’t loose power. But……
didn't expect to see a commercial.. but I guess we've all see it coming.
Your cistern is outside… how do you keep your water system from freezing during extended cold periods? Also a diesel or gasoline generator is much more reliable, cheaper and will run virtually forever.
Tried the buy now link, just to see, but not supporting your Canadian brothers Anker, at least with that website!
Generac 22kw and 200 gallons of LP will power my whole house for around 8 days. I have had a 4 day outage and 5 day outage (Hurricane Area of Florida).
Those icesicles indicate serious heat loss through that roof.
Trent, with all that roof space it’s criminal not to have solar panels. Great back up though
You've got room on your property for acres of solar panels. Run off that, unhook from grid.
With the Solix, you absolutely do not want to try to run your heatpump on it. I think you’d get about 30min if your heatpump is a 30a/220v. If you opt for the full expansion at $20 or $40k, sure… but just buy a generator before that.
Only just started catching up on your videos after a while Trent and a new video drops. Awesome. :)
My friend installed a TESLA power system at his house in Connecticut which allows him to go off the grid indefinitely. The solar system allows him to sell electricity back to the power company. I think he only uses the batteries in the event of a power failure. Otherwise electricity generating during the day covers the cost of the overnight usage.
Problem is it probably cost him over $50,000 to do that.
3.5 hours, seriously. I think true back up power needs to look at 3.5 days minimum. Here in Montana we have had multiple times where the outage runs far beyond 24 hours. We have three back up generators.
So how many times will that recharge my iPhone? 😂😂😂
Its 80 Degrees here in coastal North Carolina. Wearing shorts today.
29 below in Galena Alaska.
A 17 minute commercial....oh brother!!!
Nice 2 know
All App controlled means when they stop updating the app your battery is uncontrollable.
So wait all of that work and money for 3 hours of backup? That seems like overkill for not a lot of reward. I hope they sent you 2 for FREE for this very well-done brand integration.
Enjoyed the video, interesting topic for sure Trent.
What do you do after 3 hours?
right... that doesn't sound like its worth the $ and work
The same thing you would do if you didn’t even have this system😂
nice likes here ps watch that ice/snow drift on roof kk :)
I'm a little surprised you don't have solar.
Anker has every reason to be really happy with this video.
You are probably not too unhappy either, since you actually have a need for their products.
This is great optimisation of sponsored content.
So did they come to you, or did you go to them ?
Being lithium I wouldn't store that in the hangar or the house 🔥
3 hrs seems sort of like maybe not enough ?
With a storm you always have wind. Why not add a wind generator. There are great new technology’s that work with high winds