You briefly mentioned the station location markers, which identify specific locations in the station based on different infrastructure. They are attached to stairs, elevators, and crossings to help identify your location in an emergency, such as when you call 911. Instead of saying what station you are at and emergency services scout the whole station, you tell them the exact location of where you are using those markers leading emergency services right to you. They are sort of like mile markers on roads. Markers are generally labeled S for Street, M for Mezzanine, and PL for Platform. Most are bolted to the floors, while some are attached to walls. There are definitely others.
Interesting! I’m assuming that they were originally built for express service (or maybe a super express considering none of the stations on the Sea Beach Line have express platforms).
@nathantransitj I forgot also about a time when some stations were getting rehabilitated, they constructed temporary platforms to extend to the express track.
I REMEMBER THOSE they were wooden and flimzy but had great lighting and honestly wished they remained there for rush hour but then again dekalv ave wouldnt allow it (deinterline it already mta com'on you 5 iq executives) @@Ironman875
Those "test tracks" were originally built for the Sea Beach Express service (NX). They're unused because it's simply not practical to run trains express directly from 59th Street to Coney Island nonstop. This is because there are NO EXPRESS STOPS along the Sea Beach line.
For the Q line station, it's weird seeing a NYC subway station that isn't just 7-foot ceilings built two feet below the road, and concrete and tiles everywhere.
I didn't realize there were so many 86th St stations! That's so neat, i think ive omly been tov B, C and R stations. Also love the appreciation for the artwork, I usually ignore them if im trying to get someplace quick lol
You asked about the subways Stairways lables. Every stairway in the system is labled according to the part of the station it serves and leads to. The letters indicate wether its a Street stairway leading to the street level with a "S" . The platform stairways have a "P" or "PL". The mezzanine Stairways have a "M". The numbers next to the letter is a series of numbers that represents the total number of those type of stairways which enables you to figure out which stairway you are on and its location. So stairway P2 is a platform leading stairway an the 2 means its the 2nd of however many there are. A P4 is the 4th and so on. Its enablea the station personell to figure out the exaxt location and which staircase you are referencing. M is a mezzanine leading stairway. S is a street leading stairway. Sometimes stairways are broken into sections ,meaning a landing and a additional stairway begins to travel further down or up So for example a stairway from the mezzanine leading to the platform can have 2 or more landings. So the lables would read "M1A & M1B " or P1A or P2B or S1A or S1B. There are also Stairways that in some stations lead into buildings or bussinesses of which the Transit system does not maintain,repair,clean,but whatever building or business it leads to is reasonable for all things about those Stairways. Transit personell doesn't have anything to do with them. These types of stairways are labled "UL" . I was a Station Supervisor and this labeling system is how we know which stairway and its location of every station.
A while ago, I wanted to meet a friend of mine, visiting from California and I told her to meet me at 86th and 4th in Bay Ridge (I live across the bridge on Staten Island and it's a quick bus trip for me to Brooklyn). I told her to take the N and transfer to the R at 59th and then go to 86th. I arrived at 86th and 4th, at the 86th Street subway station, I call her, tell her I am there, she says she is too, but where was she? She stayed on the N and got off at the 86th Street station in Gravesend.
Shout out to the 3 86th streets on the former “B” WestEnd line. (20th Ave, Bay Parkway & 25th ave) 😂 I remember see people ask the conductor does the B train go to 86th street I want to get to Lafayette high school. And the conductor would say catch the “N” train.🤣🤣😂. But I knew they wanted 25th Ave.. 🤣🤣😂
The platform on the 1 line was extended as time passed. It is one of the original stations that opened in 1904. That's why some of the platform looks generic with regard to the tiling and columns (the newer part) and some looks very old (it is old. 1904 old.).
Nicely done. Also, looking at the map there seem to be at least 3 more stations (possibly 4 if including avenue X as it's the same intersection) on 86th street in Brooklyn. Though if going that route there a a bunch more streets with multiple stations on them.. Could be neat to see some of those other lines of stations that while not on the same subway line, are in a line on the same street although that seems to be common in Manhattan so filtering for more the more interesting comparisons might be needed.
I've never understood why the MTA doesn't put cross streets in the names of stations in Manhattan. There are at least 3 ststions on the 23rd, 28th, 72nd, 86th, 96th, 103rd, 110th, 125th, etc, that all have the same issue.
Another option would be to use neighborhood and/or landmark names, but people would complain so much about that change, even if it would be better for navigation.
Remember that the subway was initially run by three different companies, each with a limited number of lines. The north-south street was easy to remember because not everyone rode every line in each division.
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On the official New York subway map (on the mta website), the local stops are in black and the express in white. If you are talking about the track map, just search for: “vanshnookenraggen track map” on Google.
I loved the part of the video when you went to 86th street!
You briefly mentioned the station location markers, which identify specific locations in the station based on different infrastructure. They are attached to stairs, elevators, and crossings to help identify your location in an emergency, such as when you call 911. Instead of saying what station you are at and emergency services scout the whole station, you tell them the exact location of where you are using those markers leading emergency services right to you. They are sort of like mile markers on roads.
Markers are generally labeled S for Street, M for Mezzanine, and PL for Platform. Most are bolted to the floors, while some are attached to walls. There are definitely others.
Thanks! That makes sense and in retrospect, the letter codes seem obvious.
Manhattan does have a 4th avenue. It’s between Lafayette st & union square
It used to be that park av was 4th Ave but that changed to south (park av)
Park Avenue (as a whole) is essentially 4th Avenue in Manhattan.
The 86 Street Station on the N, the center tracks are actually test tracks. They recently used the tracks to test-run the R211 subway cars.
Interesting! I’m assuming that they were originally built for express service (or maybe a super express considering none of the stations on the Sea Beach Line have express platforms).
@nathantransitj I forgot also about a time when some stations were getting rehabilitated, they constructed temporary platforms to extend to the express track.
I REMEMBER THOSE they were wooden and flimzy but had great lighting and honestly wished they remained there for rush hour but then again dekalv ave wouldnt allow it (deinterline it already mta com'on you 5 iq executives) @@Ironman875
@@nathantransitj there was a short lived line called the "NX" which was basically a super express for sea beach
Those "test tracks" were originally built for the Sea Beach Express service (NX). They're unused because it's simply not practical to run trains express directly from 59th Street to Coney Island nonstop. This is because there are NO EXPRESS STOPS along the Sea Beach line.
Damn that diamond N at 17:25 is so rare. That was a great catch right there
Have lots of memories transferring from the S79 to the R train at 86th street.
For the Q line station, it's weird seeing a NYC subway station that isn't just 7-foot ceilings built two feet below the road, and concrete and tiles everywhere.
I didn't realize there were so many 86th St stations! That's so neat, i think ive omly been tov B, C and R stations. Also love the appreciation for the artwork, I usually ignore them if im trying to get someplace quick lol
1:35 - This station is a part of the IRT / oldest subway line under the streets of New York city. (October 1904)
You asked about the subways Stairways lables. Every stairway in the system is labled according to the part of the station it serves and leads to. The letters indicate wether its a Street stairway leading to the street level with a "S" . The platform stairways have a "P" or "PL". The mezzanine Stairways have a "M". The numbers next to the letter is a series of numbers that represents the total number of those type of stairways which enables you to figure out which stairway you are on and its location. So stairway P2 is a platform leading stairway an the 2 means its the 2nd of however many there are. A P4 is the 4th and so on. Its enablea the station personell to figure out the exaxt location and which staircase you are referencing. M is a mezzanine leading stairway. S is a street leading stairway. Sometimes stairways are broken into sections ,meaning a landing and a additional stairway begins to travel further down or up So for example a stairway from the mezzanine leading to the platform can have 2 or more landings. So the lables would read "M1A & M1B " or P1A or P2B or S1A or S1B.
There are also Stairways that in some stations lead into buildings or bussinesses of which the Transit system does not maintain,repair,clean,but whatever building or business it leads to is reasonable for all things about those Stairways. Transit personell doesn't have anything to do with them.
These types of stairways are labled "UL" .
I was a Station Supervisor and this labeling system is how we know which stairway and its location of every station.
I believe this also helps emergency services locate the area they need to respond to
Do the 23rd street video
A while ago, I wanted to meet a friend of mine, visiting from California and I told her to meet me at 86th and 4th in Bay Ridge (I live across the bridge on Staten Island and it's a quick bus trip for me to Brooklyn).
I told her to take the N and transfer to the R at 59th and then go to 86th.
I arrived at 86th and 4th, at the 86th Street subway station, I call her, tell her I am there, she says she is too, but where was she? She stayed on the N and got off at the 86th Street station in Gravesend.
Shout out to the 3 86th streets on the former “B” WestEnd line. (20th Ave, Bay Parkway & 25th ave) 😂 I remember see people ask the conductor does the B train go to 86th street I want to get to Lafayette high school. And the conductor would say catch the “N” train.🤣🤣😂. But I knew they wanted 25th Ave.. 🤣🤣😂
9:00 - Nathan enters the Subway system stations, does not ride the trains, but wants to know more about the stairs.
That is indeed what occurred.
Nice! This was a good idea.
Thanks! I love your videos!
The platform on the 1 line was extended as time passed. It is one of the original stations that opened in 1904. That's why some of the platform looks generic with regard to the tiling and columns (the newer part) and some looks very old (it is old. 1904 old.).
It's interesting that there is 6 86th Street stations 2 in Brooklyn and 4 in Manhattan
Nicely done. Also, looking at the map there seem to be at least 3 more stations (possibly 4 if including avenue X as it's the same intersection) on 86th street in Brooklyn. Though if going that route there a a bunch more streets with multiple stations on them.. Could be neat to see some of those other lines of stations that while not on the same subway line, are in a line on the same street although that seems to be common in Manhattan so filtering for more the more interesting comparisons might be needed.
I forgot they renovated 86th St on The R. The subway signs used to have more info on them.
You missed the Philip Glass mosaic above the 83rd St Entrance of the 86th St Q! It's my favorite part about entering that station daily.
Most lexington ave stations along central park are like that.
I've never understood why the MTA doesn't put cross streets in the names of stations in Manhattan. There are at least 3 ststions on the 23rd, 28th, 72nd, 86th, 96th, 103rd, 110th, 125th, etc, that all have the same issue.
Another option would be to use neighborhood and/or landmark names, but people would complain so much about that change, even if it would be better for navigation.
Remember that the subway was initially run by three different companies, each with a limited number of lines. The north-south street was easy to remember because not everyone rode every line in each division.
It's to a point now where natives know which 23rd to go to its only the outsiders who dont
Oh, no. the 'Cool Guy' ! I'm hot headed, so I'm not 'cool'. 😆 I enjoyed finding out how many mosaics NYC has. Let me blow you away with the architecture around some London
stations.
ua-cam.com/video/HQMo7M4D8Oo/v-deo.html
18:55 Gypsy Hill. 20:36 and 20:57 Crystal Palace.
ua-cam.com/video/HQMo7M4D8Oo/v-deo.html
Denmark Hill station. 0:03 3:04 3:09 3:45
Canopy support styling 2:10 ua-cam.com/video/AuRIbv93iEw/v-deo.html
Aarre Peltomaa of Mississauga, Ontario
They used to call it Gravesend-86th Street
Only temporary
u should do 7th av next
The 5 125th Street stations (if you include Metro North)
You should credit @Vanshnookenraggen in your descriptions for using his excellent track maps
Where can I find that map that showed the local and express stops
On the official New York subway map (on the mta website), the local stops are in black and the express in white. If you are talking about the track map, just search for: “vanshnookenraggen track map” on Google.
The C train is just short
Um Manhattan does have a 4th Avenue..
If you cannot cross over from one platform to the other, is it 1 station or 2? Seems IRT and BMT/IND stations are similar?
3:18 - This is an express service A train passing through?
Either the A or the D. I'm not good enough with train models to tell which! :)
It's an A train.
Its Dee-kALb... not Duh- kawlb
2:11 why do you say v and c lines when it is the b and c
You know nothing about art or jazz music
Get a job!