As an Airstream salesmen in Ohio who has the opportunity to visit the factory. Let me say they did everything absolutely correct in terms of the shell restoration! That's beautiful inside and out!
Long time camper owner here. And anxious to see what you come up with. You mentioned the “poop tube”…in the RV world, we call it “the stinky slinky”…..and I just wanted to make the suggestion to you to not skimp on this one. When we first started camping, I just used the little cheapo sewer hose, yeah…that was a gross mistake. Go buy the rhino flex style hoses. The last place you want surprises is when turds are involved hahah. Looking forward to the series man.
Jason, as someone who's been travel-trailer RVing for 20 years I think you have an amazing opportunity to build something that will bind your family together forever. I am so glad you outsourced the non-woodworking side of it and can focus on what you are awesome at. I look forward to seeing what you do and commenting with varying levels of "AUGH!!" as you move forward. My only long-term advice would be as follows: 1) Make sure you can get to *every* piece of infrastructure easily. Do not put inverters/PEX/wiring junctions in inaccessible places. Believe me I know just how awful it can get... 2) Keep it as simple as you can. Complexity is the death of travel trailers. 3) Watch your weight. Only make your interior build as stout as it *must* be. 4) Smart storage is king. Everything in a travel trailer needs a place. I wish you and yours the best as you finish this project!
Keep the outside shower but do a ‘wet bath’ where you can take a shower in your toilet space. You will be able to expand your options with where you camp and make your trailer much more valuable for resale.
Full time RVer here. Finishing our 3rd trip around the U.S. make sure your bearings are good (moderately easy to replace) with weight distribution bars and a sway bar. Have those electric breaks and lights checked. Now you are safe to go from point A to B. Take out that future leaking water heater and go on demand. Shower needs to be inside not out. Your kids and wife will thank you later. LED lighting as bright as you can that dim (Amazon). Solar uv protecting shades to block the sun (we DIYed ours) or use foil type insulation. Think and double-rethink storage. There is always something you forget. Quality Tupperware containers under the trailer makes a good storage option for outdoor stuff or kids toys. Just throw into the back of the truck when traveling. Always remember to winterize sinks, toilet, tanks and plumbing. Don't just use antifreeze, but blow out with air, then antifreeze for the winter. Sorry got a little carried away. Just excited for the series. Good luck!
The other thing about the shower is if you don't protect your freshly refurbished camper skin, all those hard water stains you'll get on it can be a royal pain to remove if you don't stay on top of it.
I would suggest that before you start even planning the interior that you jack up and level your trailer (then stabilize in that condition) so that the floors are level in both directions and thus establish a datum. Then as you move forward with building out and dealing with all the curves you can build out stuff plumb and square to the floor and using levels, squares, lasers, etc. you can create templates like countertop guys do to deal "stuff that meets up to the outside shell. You might also want to talk to the guys who did the work already on your airstream about the need or not to deal with flex, and how to attach to the shell. Are the ribs aluminum? Special fasteners to not have galvanic reactions? That kind of stuff. Also, are connections to the shell tight or perhaps need gaskets to prevent squeaks and rattles? Good Luck!
The only suggestion I have is to rethink the outside shower. All campers have outside showers, but not all campsites allow you to use them. They are generally for rinsing off after coming back from the beach. When we went from a pop up trailer to a full size travel trailer, the single biggest upgrade is the indoor washroom and shower. You’re camping, you’ll stink. Lol Happy camping and look forward to the series. I would do a rebuild of a trailer, but not an airstream. The curves are beyond my skill set.
If you can use a tiny home trick, in your house/basement/workshop tape up the floor dimensions and then place representative items to see if the set up will work. Ie. cardboard boxes the size of your cabinets (depth especially) and build ins and a sofa/chair or mattress. Then walk around the space, you’ll find where you need more and where you can slim things down. Don’t make the kitchen too big you will want that for living space (table etc where the family can gather). You can take premade meals with you to save space and that doesn’t require much counter space. Also check out campgrounds that you might be interested in going to and see if they have facilities. If they don’t, add an indoor shower. Though you can washcloth bathe indoors if you have to.
Jason, I restored an airstream exactly like yours from 2007 to 2011. Sadly, I lost it and my photography of the process in a major tornado. I've lived half my life in trailers, manufactured homes, campers, and sailboats. I have tons of woodworking, plumbing, and electrical experience with restoration and repair of such campers/homes. I used to be a junior engineer for a German manufactured home company and a handyman here in the US. I welcome you to ask me anything on the process. I'm disabled, now, but I have restored and renovated dozens of campers, love your content, and would happily help you with my experience online. I love watching other folks tackle what I did as a hobby for 20 years. Let me give you a few notes to help you out. 1. You have a propane fridge, and they are a maintenance nightmare, if you don't keep them level. Don't run it, when you're moving the trailer, either. It can mess up the valves on the condenser, and your propane should always be shut off at the tank before traveling, anyway. 2. Always carry a spray bottle of dish soap to check your propane lines for leaks whenever you setup your camper. You just never know when a forgotten pothole could be the factor that damages your propane lines, so just spray the lines, especially at joints and stress points and check for bubbling, like you might check a tire for a leak. 3. Make and follow a checklist for setup and teardown when you're traveling. Budget yourself half an hour for each. Include checking lines and tanks, valves and switches, leveling, awnings or any other equipment that has to be retracted before moving. 4. Scribe, scribe, scribe.... Any woodworking you do in an airstream isn't going to be square to the surface, and you cannot telegraph the curves, either. They aren't symmetrical. The only way to cut accurate curves for flush fitting in an airstream is to scribe on the same plane the finished piece will rest. Personally, I clamp cardboard as close to the surface I need to make the flush piece of cabinetry, squaring the cardboard as I would the finished board for plumb, then I scribe the curve onto the cardboard and use it to template my board, but I do this for every board that has to fit a curve in the camper. Rarely do curved profiles actually match, and scribing each board for its final point of contact just saves time in the final fit. 5. Relief cutting plywood doesn't work well in the corners. I wasted 4 sheets of curffed plywood learning this, the hard way. My final solution was to use scribing to make a pair of clamping calls to fit the corner curvature, and laminate together thin sheets of wood with Tightbond II or III to create a curved plywood that I could tab joint to the rest of my curved plywood for the walls and ceiling. I reused my corner mold jigs for my upper cabinets, and gave them a reverse profile to the curve of the camper roof, so none of my upper cabinets had any sharp profiles to hit my head. I highly recommend this method. 5. Use marine equipment, not RV equipment whenever possible, especially for latches. They hold up much better over time, and they are made tougher.
Great advice, I just picked up a 31’ airstream land yacht. Outside is clean, but inside is trash, I love my propane fridge, but it’s mounted in a cabin, so it doesn’t move, so maybe that’s why I like it, also at 31’ there’s plenty of room for an inside shower. Any advice on awning replacement? And I’ve got one window to replace, I actually thought of cut the middle out and building it higher, is that the worst idea?
Another vote for rethinking the inside shower. Especially if you use a wet bath design, the additional space used by a shower and toilet vs just a toilet is minimal. Maybe 6-10” on a side…
Can’t wait to see all the creative things you do. As a fairly knowledgeable RV’er here’s a few unsolicited suggestions: 1) I echo the comments about keeping the weight down. Especially if towing with a 1/2 ton truck. The big challenge of RV builds is keeping weight minimal while building something that’s has to withstand the equivalent of a 5-6 Richter scale earthquake while bouncing down the road. You will also have to take a fair amount of gear camping and that weight adds up. Can only put so much on the axels/tires. 2) It’s handy to have a dinette that breaks down to a bed for extra guests. But I’d consider making a dedicated bunk for your son. Our first trailer had a bed in the back for us and we had to break down the front table for our daughter. It became a real pain to break it down into a bed every night and then remake it into a table for breakfast every morning. We ended up trading in that trailer to have something where we could just keep the table set up for our use all the time. 3) You’ve got a state of the art battery and electrical set up. They seriously did you right there. I’d seriously consider a solar panel or two on the roof and a 12 volt fridge. Way more room inside. Cools down way faster. You’ve got the base system to support it. And solar panels can easily keep your running off grid with an occasional charge up from the truck. 4) I share the thoughts about an interior shower. It’s a really nice convenience. Check out a bunch of different RV manufacturer bathroom floor plans. They accomplish a lot in a small footprint. Good luck. I’ll be watching this one closely. Seriously can’t wait to see all the craftsmanship you bring to this.
Pulling any type of trailer, as I'm sure you know, can get sketchy if you don't have proper weight distribution. You mentioned starting in the back and working your way forward. Putting the heaviest components over the tires will make for a better/safer pulling experience. I always enjoy your videos, thanks for creating great content.
I am sitting in an RV watching this and I am excited to see what you do with this. And I don't care if you don't know what anything is called. Do what you do, and forget the negativity.
That is such a GORGEOUS camper! Im envious! This is where YOU will shine though in the wood buildout part. All the super hard stuff is done. I would make your plan in sketchup and use that as your blueprint for all of your items. Split it up into a 100 different small projects that you can do in a video or two.
Super excited for this series. Built my RV during the pandemic and it was a great project....although I have no advice. Everything still works and it has not burned to the ground, so success!
I would recommend looking at van build outs and schoolies on youtube for some ideas on what you can do with the inside. Larger vans have less space so some folks have come up with great storage and ways to save space on your interior. Look at Trent and Allie on their van builds. They do some nice work.
Man, seeing the airstream being pulled out of the garage all nice and shiny brought me back to when I was a kid, going camping with my grandparents in their airstream. Had a lot of great memories in one of these for years. Had me tearing up. Started saving to get one, used, new is too darn expensive.
I would suggest making your bathroom a wet/dry that can also house a shower. Sit on the toilet and shower 😂. No extra space and an option if it is too chilly outside. Fall and spring camping is the best!
Looking forward to seeing a lot of CAD work. Cardboard Aided Design. Good point someone made about not always being allowed to use an outdoor shower, but also think about the cold unless you only intend to use it in the summer. As you build it, don't forget to plan your weights. Not only maximum weight limits, but also the balance of where it is. And you need to plan not only the static load, ie what you build, but also the dynamic load of all the stuff your wife and foreman want to load up. Too much weight at one end and you'll crash the first time you hit the highway.
I swear I saw you on I5 near Olympia and thought that's gonna be a cool project! Had I realized that it was you I would have ran you down and fan girled over the trailer! You're ok too! What a rad project!! I've done a few weird builds like this and you'll find the hard stuff is so satisfying to pull off when you're done!! Wish I could come help ya out! Can't wait to see the progress!
I've used propane refridgerators for 40+ years with no issues. One only has to have them level to work properly. I'm looking forward to your build out.
You have been living my dream! I’m a father of two little ones and a custom furniture maker in Detroit, but have a passion to make all sorts of stuff. I have been watching videos of a Japanese guy making huge homemade outdoor pots. Always wanted to try to do it. Then guess what? You did it! Another dream of mine has been to remodel an old airstream and take my family camping. So when this video popped up I was like, NO WAY! You do it all, and you do it so well. I find I am lacking either time, money or energy. Either way, keep up the great work. I love watching your content and have learned a lot. Much love from Detroit.
One of the cool upgrades I made to our camper (not an airstream) is the under bed storage. I build a bunch of drawers but also set it up so the bed can lift up for large storage. It’s very handy. Also soft close drawer slides are really good in the camper because they hold the drawer closed better when you’re moving.
Yeah, think hard about making sure the weight is towards the front. I once saw a big camper sway out of control and flip on a steep highway downhill in Idaho. You don’t want to be that guy.
Really look forward to this series. I follow your channel as an amateur woodworker and am also an Airstream owner. Camping with my young children and wife has been a wonderful time to spend together as a family. The kids love it. I would highly encourage an inside shower. There is nothing like a hot indoor shower after a day of doing whatever, especially when the temperature drops outside. Congratulations and welcome to the Airstream family!
For the outside shower mount, put a metal plate on the inside (since magnets don't stick to aluminum) and then get a magnetic shower mount. Nice clean outside and you can still mount the shower head when in use
My husband and I are watching this and I laughed so hard at your wife imitation. She is my spirit animal. We lived this experience with my ‘78 CJ 7 😂. Enjoy your channel!
I've been watching both of you and Andy's channels for a few years. So cool to see yall meet up for ideas and advice. Andy's series of the Argosy restoration was great. Excited to see your process.
It was a great idea visiting Andy! You now have some idea how it all comes together. You can do it Jason! One thing at a time!! It's a beautiful Airstream!!!
So much fun, Jason! I still camp with a tent and sleeping bag on the back of my motorcycle, but I'm getting old enough not even the Utah liquor stores ask for my ID anymore, so I may be thinking about this kind of setup soon; maybe I'll learn a few things as I follow along. Good luck!
I took up woodworking during COVID lockdown, and following you, but I have had a vintage Airstream for 20 years. Last winter I used my new woodworking skills to rebuild half the interior. Next winter I will rebuild the kitchen unit. I had the advantage of buying the trailer in usable condition so we could use it and figure out what was important to us for the way we like to camp. Those guys gave you a heck of a head start, I can't wait to see the interior!
I am looking forward to this. I have always wanted to do an RV but my wife hates camping from when she was a little girl but I can still dream about it. I actually lived in an old RV for 2 years and the rent was cheap and I had hookups so I could do everything you can do normally. The only drawback was that it was in a combination storage and RV parking area in Myrtle Beach. What I made up for in rent, I had to endure listening to storage patrons coming and going at all hours of the day and night. Good times.
So many comments about "you need a shower on the inside"... I'm with you, I would save space and stick with your plan! However, all that really matters is what you and your family want. Enjoy your camping, shower outside, or enjoy the free shower at a campsite/rv park (if it has one). Excited to see what you do with this one!
Outdoor showers are a good idea on paper. Great if your boondocking, but I've used a few on rather chilly days after dirt biking. Not be best, but I certainly get it. save the space. You need a little teak pallet to keep your feet out of the dirt and a pop up shelter. It will take a few extra steps to set up. I'd go with "poop shoot"
Was hoping someone else asked and sorry if i missed it. How much did Mountain Modern charge for what looks like a “Partial Airstream Renovation Build I” solution”? I’m in the early stages of wanting to get an airstream and am evaluating options of renovating an older unit vs just spending half my retirement savings on a new (newer) unit.
When I think of all the other things you have built, I’m pretty sure this is going be an amazing camper once you have finished. Looking forward to follow the process 😀
You did the smartest thing possible, had a professional rebuild of the frame and shell. It was painful to watch Andy complete this phase and the result was just O.K. Both of you guys are very talented woodworkers so his inside was very cool and no doubt yours will also be a fantastic. Good luck.
I am also a casualty of the "how hard can it be" my suggestion for matching the contour of the interior is to get one of those pin gauges for copying elaborate details. Draw a line on the wall where your...whatever. .your cabinet will go, and using the gauge just copy 12" at a time, the curve of the inside then transfer that to your template or work piece or whatever. It's slow, but it works
That would definitely work for the back hatch storage but there might not be enough space inside to slide out storage. Being able to lift up the bed on a hinge would probably be the best option.
@@jamingaming9251 I have 2 gas struts and a hinge on mine. Hit the latch and PSSSHHHT up it goes then just press it down and put the pillows back onto the bed. I also installed tracks so the center section could slide out easily and it's still fully accessible from the inside.
Yippy!!! I have a 1987 Fleetwood Wilderness I bought recently. I'm so pumped that I can follow you updating an old camper!! I need the help with updating ideas.
This is going to be a fun ride. I redid a pop up camper, not a complete like your doing and it was fun. Your style of creativity is going to be awesome. So let the fun begin. Thanks for letting us tag along
Weight distribution is key, not just what is built in but what you bring on trips too. I’ll be tuned in to see how you tackle the challenges. Thanks for the content
Instead of mounting a shower fixture to the outside of the Airstream… make a slotted wooden platform (to keep your feet out of the mud) that holds a freestanding shower curtain/stall. The poles (fiberglass sections like tent poles) can all broke down and be stored under the platform (holes drilled horizontally into the platform structure) and the whole thing is then stored in the truck bed or trailer during transport. Think Army style field shower…
You're COMPLETELY NUTS, and I am so here for it, very excited to watch, cannot wait to see what you come up with. Sure it will be gorgeous and well done!!
I have seen many people remodel older airstreams and have turned really nice. Make sure to check for water leaks while you are close to just the shell. I have seen people having to rip out cabinets to seal a leaky rivet.
Jason! Congratulations on a very entertaining series! Love your craftsmanship, imagination, sense of humor and willingness to experiment and maybe fail and adjust. As an owner of a similar-sized Airstream trailer, I encourage you, as have so many others, to reconsider your decision not to have an inside shower. An outside shower may be fine for rinsing sand off from the beach on a sunny day, but it would be unusable for daily showers unless you plan on boondocking exclusively or camping only in nudist campgrounds! No showers outside in bad weather either. There's a reason every Airstream the size of yours comes with an inside shower. I'll bet you're getting more advice pushing back on this design choice than any other. Did your family vote? Either way, good luck and I look forward to future episodes!
I am so excited to see you build this up. I hope you still make a couple other videos to change things up but I am very excited. Thank you for your time and for sharing this with us all. One love to all.
Got a 1966 Overlander. Been "renovating" it for 10 years. Never ending job, especially on almost zero budget. Just now able to afford new axles so the roof AC will stop crushing the roof with every bump on the road. Glad you got to use a professional to get a solid foundation.
So fun! I actually watched one of your older videos when I started building the cabinetry for my own Airstream renovation. I’m almost done. It’s taken me a year. Happy building!
Just to add to the rest of the people who've said the same thing. You need an inside shower. You will %100 regret not having one. Spring and fall camping can be chilly outside and some places don't allow you to shower outside. A wet bath doesn't add much more space.
Sounds like you have experience but... it depends on your use of the trailer, right? The man maybe doesn't plan on camping in fall and spring... When doing a personnal projet, I think you need to do you.
The campground at Acadia doesn’t have showers and you can’t shower outside. I’m not sure if most national parks are similar, but I really like having an indoor shower to avoid the drive to the coin operated showers outside the campground. So another vote for rethinking the indoor shower.
@@MrGougui Yes, and you can't use it in some parks per the rules. In others you would be standing in a mud pit unless you bring a raised wooden floor. I like the indoor shower and the the outdoor shower in our airstream and wouldn't want to be without either one.
You should do a slide out drawer in the back under the bed. That way you could use the full space, pull it out and use it all. It will make life so much easier to reach things in the back. I know they have similar setups for pick up trucks.
One thing I would be super careful about is making sure that you keep the weight light. It would be super easy to overload the axels especially with typical materials like plywood and hardwood.
Haha I was thinking Andy Rawls a couple episodes ago when I saw that Airstream in your driveway. Then the whole first half I was wondering if you stumbled on his build on youtube. Two of my favorite woodworkers...
Jason so excited to see where this series goes and prolly gonna join patreon to see more. I know you're a Ford guy and if you do end up going camping a ton, you might consider getting the F-150 lightning next time you're due up for a new truck. I developed and designed a big portion of the rear end of the current one and the vehicle itself is an airstream owner's dream in terms of features. Been watching your work since the start of the pandemic while I was still working at Ford and churned through the back catalog when we were all trapped inside. Cheers man.
Whatever you decide to install inside over the rear hatch access- keep the access available via a door/hatch inside. This will be a lifesaver later because the side entry door just won’t cut it later during the build when you’re trying to move long skinny stuff inside. Flooring- keep it simple stupid… Marmolium sheet flooring is easy to install, wears great, easy to clean and fun colors. DO NOT Use click flooring! Don’t skimp on the toilet- the good ones are crazy expensive but save you from dealing with a lot of shit later (if ya know what I mean). Definitely keep the bathroom small and simple and do keep a shower inside. I’m a fan of a whole room shower pan or even a small stand-up tub/shower as they help save water. Cabinet carcasses should be skeletonized to save weight- all those cut outs are worth it. Don’t build your cabinets too deep which ends up making your walkway too skinny-skinny. Keep the faces light- so it doesn’t turn into a cave. Looking forward to your build!
An idea to consider for your airstream bathroom is a product called " sink twice" , which is a two piece dual flush sink that sits on the tiloilet tank and your toilet can then use the grey water to flush. Saves space, water and you get clean hands.
Hi Jason! Love your videos! I can't wait to see this project finished. But please rethink the outside shower. I think your wife would eventually prefer to shower inside the trailer.
Propane fridges are NOT a maintenance nightmare. Some of them are poorly made and there have been certain brands with recalls and even fires, but when you get one that works, it just works and it just sips propane. I own and rent multiple RVs and never have any issues with fridges. You will want to consider making those exterior storage compartments accessible from the inside as well. It's super convenient, when loading the RV< to not have to go inside to put stuff inside. If you can just shove it through an outside portal and it magically appears inside, that's a huge timesaver.
I did a 64 Airstream Safari years ago. I made templates out of chipboard, and transferred them to my cabinet sides. I used 6mm ribbon mahogany plywood to save weight, and 5/8" thick face frames. My layout was a rear queen bedroom, then bath and kitchen, and twin beds in front that folded up to a table for the kids. I lined my bathroom walls and floor with stainless panels, and you could shower while sitting on the toilet. It was 28 feet bumper to hitch, and weighed 3200 lbs. fully loaded. It took me 6 months.
That is soooo cool!! Cant wait to see what’s gonna happen to this trailer! Grew up camping in a pop up camper (in the summer because Québec…) and i think that project is gonna be freaking cool when completed and extremely funny to watch! Dont give up and keep maming awsome videos!
Looks awesome - can't wait to see how you transform the interior! I had a pandemic project of redoing the interior of a 13' fibreglass trailer from 1975, nowhere near as glam as your Airstream, but it was awesome to tackle a challenge I knew nothing about... and now it looks great!
Super jacked for this build. You’re going to do the trailer right. Agree with the exterior shower. I’d suggest creating good insulating and weather seals on those hatches. That poop chute looks great. 😅
I see a lot of great comments, I did not go through and read them all. On the subject of a propane refrigerator I would suggest a Dometic. They are probably the best available. Propane has been used for years by the Amish. I have a Norcold brand and had it redone a few years ago is Shipshwana, IN. by National RV Refrigeration. He is Amish and is very knowledgeable. Anyway if you can do propane/electric it allows you to camp without electricity (dry camping). It is an awesome way to got at times. For example I camped 2 miles from the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and spent 4 days in the National Forest dispersion camping for free. Good luck we lived in an RV for 5 years full time, and traveled from Key West to Alaska on a 2 year trip. Good Luck.
I recall you making the same disclaimers when you started the aMAZing treeless treehouse. 😂 So I am excited about watching this Airstream series. You have imagination, skills, and follow through, which powers your great projects. 👍
I've had several trailers and they all had propane refrigerators. As long as you make sure it's level they're really not a big problem. I didn't really have any noteworthy issues with any of them. Enjoy your experience.
Thanks!
A drop in the bucket no big deal. Thanks for teaching a old fart how to make cabinets.
As an Airstream salesmen in Ohio who has the opportunity to visit the factory. Let me say they did everything absolutely correct in terms of the shell restoration! That's beautiful inside and out!
Long time camper owner here. And anxious to see what you come up with. You mentioned the “poop tube”…in the RV world, we call it “the stinky slinky”…..and I just wanted to make the suggestion to you to not skimp on this one. When we first started camping, I just used the little cheapo sewer hose, yeah…that was a gross mistake. Go buy the rhino flex style hoses. The last place you want surprises is when turds are involved hahah.
Looking forward to the series man.
Also, use the camlock type connector as they work perfectly every thime!
I always put the money where the shit is.
In my mouth.
Stinky slinky! Ha.... if its does not have a label that says that on the door I'd be disappointed.
She’s a beauty!! Can’t wait to see what you do with the interior! You got this 💪.
Your Argosy is a beautiful trailer. Well done!
Jason, as someone who's been travel-trailer RVing for 20 years I think you have an amazing opportunity to build something that will bind your family together forever. I am so glad you outsourced the non-woodworking side of it and can focus on what you are awesome at. I look forward to seeing what you do and commenting with varying levels of "AUGH!!" as you move forward.
My only long-term advice would be as follows:
1) Make sure you can get to *every* piece of infrastructure easily. Do not put inverters/PEX/wiring junctions in inaccessible places. Believe me I know just how awful it can get...
2) Keep it as simple as you can. Complexity is the death of travel trailers.
3) Watch your weight. Only make your interior build as stout as it *must* be.
4) Smart storage is king. Everything in a travel trailer needs a place.
I wish you and yours the best as you finish this project!
Keep the outside shower but do a ‘wet bath’ where you can take a shower in your toilet space. You will be able to expand your options with where you camp and make your trailer much more valuable for resale.
Full time RVer here. Finishing our 3rd trip around the U.S. make sure your bearings are good (moderately easy to replace) with weight distribution bars and a sway bar. Have those electric breaks and lights checked. Now you are safe to go from point A to B. Take out that future leaking water heater and go on demand. Shower needs to be inside not out. Your kids and wife will thank you later. LED lighting as bright as you can that dim (Amazon). Solar uv protecting shades to block the sun (we DIYed ours) or use foil type insulation. Think and double-rethink storage. There is always something you forget. Quality Tupperware containers under the trailer makes a good storage option for outdoor stuff or kids toys. Just throw into the back of the truck when traveling. Always remember to winterize sinks, toilet, tanks and plumbing. Don't just use antifreeze, but blow out with air, then antifreeze for the winter. Sorry got a little carried away. Just excited for the series. Good luck!
The other thing about the shower is if you don't protect your freshly refurbished camper skin, all those hard water stains you'll get on it can be a royal pain to remove if you don't stay on top of it.
I would suggest that before you start even planning the interior that you jack up and level your trailer (then stabilize in that condition) so that the floors are level in both directions and thus establish a datum. Then as you move forward with building out and dealing with all the curves you can build out stuff plumb and square to the floor and using levels, squares, lasers, etc. you can create templates like countertop guys do to deal "stuff that meets up to the outside shell. You might also want to talk to the guys who did the work already on your airstream about the need or not to deal with flex, and how to attach to the shell. Are the ribs aluminum? Special fasteners to not have galvanic reactions? That kind of stuff. Also, are connections to the shell tight or perhaps need gaskets to prevent squeaks and rattles? Good Luck!
The only suggestion I have is to rethink the outside shower. All campers have outside showers, but not all campsites allow you to use them. They are generally for rinsing off after coming back from the beach. When we went from a pop up trailer to a full size travel trailer, the single biggest upgrade is the indoor washroom and shower. You’re camping, you’ll stink. Lol
Happy camping and look forward to the series. I would do a rebuild of a trailer, but not an airstream. The curves are beyond my skill set.
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It’s the Stinky Slinky that empties the Poop Soup! Love the key drags on that newly polished beauty. You rocked it!
If you can use a tiny home trick, in your house/basement/workshop tape up the floor dimensions and then place representative items to see if the set up will work. Ie. cardboard boxes the size of your cabinets (depth especially) and build ins and a sofa/chair or mattress. Then walk around the space, you’ll find where you need more and where you can slim things down.
Don’t make the kitchen too big you will want that for living space (table etc where the family can gather). You can take premade meals with you to save space and that doesn’t require much counter space.
Also check out campgrounds that you might be interested in going to and see if they have facilities. If they don’t, add an indoor shower. Though you can washcloth bathe indoors if you have to.
Dude you made a freaking boat from scratch, this should be a piece of cake for you!!!!
I was literally about to comment this same thing!! :P
Jason, I restored an airstream exactly like yours from 2007 to 2011. Sadly, I lost it and my photography of the process in a major tornado. I've lived half my life in trailers, manufactured homes, campers, and sailboats. I have tons of woodworking, plumbing, and electrical experience with restoration and repair of such campers/homes. I used to be a junior engineer for a German manufactured home company and a handyman here in the US. I welcome you to ask me anything on the process. I'm disabled, now, but I have restored and renovated dozens of campers, love your content, and would happily help you with my experience online. I love watching other folks tackle what I did as a hobby for 20 years.
Let me give you a few notes to help you out.
1. You have a propane fridge, and they are a maintenance nightmare, if you don't keep them level. Don't run it, when you're moving the trailer, either. It can mess up the valves on the condenser, and your propane should always be shut off at the tank before traveling, anyway.
2. Always carry a spray bottle of dish soap to check your propane lines for leaks whenever you setup your camper. You just never know when a forgotten pothole could be the factor that damages your propane lines, so just spray the lines, especially at joints and stress points and check for bubbling, like you might check a tire for a leak.
3. Make and follow a checklist for setup and teardown when you're traveling. Budget yourself half an hour for each. Include checking lines and tanks, valves and switches, leveling, awnings or any other equipment that has to be retracted before moving.
4. Scribe, scribe, scribe.... Any woodworking you do in an airstream isn't going to be square to the surface, and you cannot telegraph the curves, either. They aren't symmetrical. The only way to cut accurate curves for flush fitting in an airstream is to scribe on the same plane the finished piece will rest. Personally, I clamp cardboard as close to the surface I need to make the flush piece of cabinetry, squaring the cardboard as I would the finished board for plumb, then I scribe the curve onto the cardboard and use it to template my board, but I do this for every board that has to fit a curve in the camper. Rarely do curved profiles actually match, and scribing each board for its final point of contact just saves time in the final fit.
5. Relief cutting plywood doesn't work well in the corners. I wasted 4 sheets of curffed plywood learning this, the hard way. My final solution was to use scribing to make a pair of clamping calls to fit the corner curvature, and laminate together thin sheets of wood with Tightbond II or III to create a curved plywood that I could tab joint to the rest of my curved plywood for the walls and ceiling. I reused my corner mold jigs for my upper cabinets, and gave them a reverse profile to the curve of the camper roof, so none of my upper cabinets had any sharp profiles to hit my head. I highly recommend this method.
5. Use marine equipment, not RV equipment whenever possible, especially for latches. They hold up much better over time, and they are made tougher.
Great advice, I just picked up a 31’ airstream land yacht. Outside is clean, but inside is trash, I love my propane fridge, but it’s mounted in a cabin, so it doesn’t move, so maybe that’s why I like it, also at 31’ there’s plenty of room for an inside shower. Any advice on awning replacement? And I’ve got one window to replace, I actually thought of cut the middle out and building it higher, is that the worst idea?
Another vote for rethinking the inside shower. Especially if you use a wet bath design, the additional space used by a shower and toilet vs just a toilet is minimal. Maybe 6-10” on a side…
I'm geeking out! Seeing two of my favorite woodworking channels doing a sorta collaboration!!!
Can’t wait to see all the creative things you do. As a fairly knowledgeable RV’er here’s a few unsolicited suggestions:
1) I echo the comments about keeping the weight down. Especially if towing with a 1/2 ton truck. The big challenge of RV builds is keeping weight minimal while building something that’s has to withstand the equivalent of a 5-6 Richter scale earthquake while bouncing down the road. You will also have to take a fair amount of gear camping and that weight adds up. Can only put so much on the axels/tires.
2) It’s handy to have a dinette that breaks down to a bed for extra guests. But I’d consider making a dedicated bunk for your son. Our first trailer had a bed in the back for us and we had to break down the front table for our daughter. It became a real pain to break it down into a bed every night and then remake it into a table for breakfast every morning. We ended up trading in that trailer to have something where we could just keep the table set up for our use all the time.
3) You’ve got a state of the art battery and electrical set up. They seriously did you right there. I’d seriously consider a solar panel or two on the roof and a 12 volt fridge. Way more room inside. Cools down way faster. You’ve got the base system to support it. And solar panels can easily keep your running off grid with an occasional charge up from the truck.
4) I share the thoughts about an interior shower. It’s a really nice convenience. Check out a bunch of different RV manufacturer bathroom floor plans. They accomplish a lot in a small footprint.
Good luck. I’ll be watching this one closely. Seriously can’t wait to see all the craftsmanship you bring to this.
Welcome to the Airstream world! I look forward to watching the build.
Pulling any type of trailer, as I'm sure you know, can get sketchy if you don't have proper weight distribution. You mentioned starting in the back and working your way forward. Putting the heaviest components over the tires will make for a better/safer pulling experience. I always enjoy your videos, thanks for creating great content.
I am sitting in an RV watching this and I am excited to see what you do with this. And I don't care if you don't know what anything is called. Do what you do, and forget the negativity.
That is such a GORGEOUS camper! Im envious! This is where YOU will shine though in the wood buildout part. All the super hard stuff is done. I would make your plan in sketchup and use that as your blueprint for all of your items. Split it up into a 100 different small projects that you can do in a video or two.
Super excited for this series. Built my RV during the pandemic and it was a great project....although I have no advice. Everything still works and it has not burned to the ground, so success!
I would recommend looking at van build outs and schoolies on youtube for some ideas on what you can do with the inside. Larger vans have less space so some folks have come up with great storage and ways to save space on your interior. Look at Trent and Allie on their van builds. They do some nice work.
Awesome. Excited to see you go through this build. Have fun. You're going to want an indoor shower.
Definitely keep overall weight and balance in mind when choosing materials. So excited to see future videos on this!
Man, seeing the airstream being pulled out of the garage all nice and shiny brought me back to when I was a kid, going camping with my grandparents in their airstream. Had a lot of great memories in one of these for years. Had me tearing up. Started saving to get one, used, new is too darn expensive.
I would suggest making your bathroom a wet/dry that can also house a shower. Sit on the toilet and shower 😂. No extra space and an option if it is too chilly outside. Fall and spring camping is the best!
Looking forward to seeing a lot of CAD work. Cardboard Aided Design.
Good point someone made about not always being allowed to use an outdoor shower, but also think about the cold unless you only intend to use it in the summer.
As you build it, don't forget to plan your weights.
Not only maximum weight limits, but also the balance of where it is.
And you need to plan not only the static load, ie what you build, but also the dynamic load of all the stuff your wife and foreman want to load up.
Too much weight at one end and you'll crash the first time you hit the highway.
I swear I saw you on I5 near Olympia and thought that's gonna be a cool project! Had I realized that it was you I would have ran you down and fan girled over the trailer! You're ok too! What a rad project!! I've done a few weird builds like this and you'll find the hard stuff is so satisfying to pull off when you're done!! Wish I could come help ya out! Can't wait to see the progress!
I've used propane refridgerators for 40+ years with no issues. One only has to have them level to work properly. I'm looking forward to your build out.
You have been living my dream! I’m a father of two little ones and a custom furniture maker in Detroit, but have a passion to make all sorts of stuff. I have been watching videos of a Japanese guy making huge homemade outdoor pots. Always wanted to try to do it. Then guess what? You did it! Another dream of mine has been to remodel an old airstream and take my family camping. So when this video popped up I was like, NO WAY! You do it all, and you do it so well. I find I am lacking either time, money or energy. Either way, keep up the great work. I love watching your content and have learned a lot.
Much love from Detroit.
One of the cool upgrades I made to our camper (not an airstream) is the under bed storage. I build a bunch of drawers but also set it up so the bed can lift up for large storage. It’s very handy.
Also soft close drawer slides are really good in the camper because they hold the drawer closed better when you’re moving.
Make sure you distribute the weight in both axis. The most weight should be over the axle or a little bit closer to your car.
And the kitchen should have been on the high side(driver's side).
Yeah, think hard about making sure the weight is towards the front. I once saw a big camper sway out of control and flip on a steep highway downhill in Idaho. You don’t want to be that guy.
This will be interesting to watch. I watched Andy's build from start to finish and enjoyed it. Can't wait to see what you do with yours.
Really look forward to this series. I follow your channel as an amateur woodworker and am also an Airstream owner. Camping with my young children and wife has been a wonderful time to spend together as a family. The kids love it. I would highly encourage an inside shower. There is nothing like a hot indoor shower after a day of doing whatever, especially when the temperature drops outside. Congratulations and welcome to the Airstream family!
Looks like you got your hands full with this build Jason. I look forward to seeing you build this thing out. Good luck buddy! I know you got this
For the outside shower mount, put a metal plate on the inside (since magnets don't stick to aluminum) and then get a magnetic shower mount. Nice clean outside and you can still mount the shower head when in use
Dang, that's brilliant!
i was thinking that suction cup should work well
Covering the outside mount, with weatherproof fabric, would prevent scratches.
Came here to say this. Also put a circle of clear plastic with a dot on it so you don't scratch the aluminium lacquer
My husband and I are watching this and I laughed so hard at your wife imitation. She is my spirit animal. We lived this experience with my ‘78 CJ 7 😂. Enjoy your channel!
I've been watching both of you and Andy's channels for a few years. So cool to see yall meet up for ideas and advice. Andy's series of the Argosy restoration was great. Excited to see your process.
Even though I will never have an Airstream or any other camper I am so excited to see this series!
It was a great idea visiting Andy! You now have some idea how it all comes together. You can do it Jason! One thing at a time!! It's a beautiful Airstream!!!
So much fun, Jason! I still camp with a tent and sleeping bag on the back of my motorcycle, but I'm getting old enough not even the Utah liquor stores ask for my ID anymore, so I may be thinking about this kind of setup soon; maybe I'll learn a few things as I follow along. Good luck!
Love your videos Jason. Really looking forward to this series. I love that you are so dedicated and share these things.
I took up woodworking during COVID lockdown, and following you, but I have had a vintage Airstream for 20 years. Last winter I used my new woodworking skills to rebuild half the interior. Next winter I will rebuild the kitchen unit. I had the advantage of buying the trailer in usable condition so we could use it and figure out what was important to us for the way we like to camp. Those guys gave you a heck of a head start, I can't wait to see the interior!
I am looking forward to this. I have always wanted to do an RV but my wife hates camping from when she was a little girl but I can still dream about it. I actually lived in an old RV for 2 years and the rent was cheap and I had hookups so I could do everything you can do normally. The only drawback was that it was in a combination storage and RV parking area in Myrtle Beach. What I made up for in rent, I had to endure listening to storage patrons coming and going at all hours of the day and night. Good times.
Oh, this brings back memories! We had a 1964 Airstream when I was growing up.
So many comments about "you need a shower on the inside"... I'm with you, I would save space and stick with your plan! However, all that really matters is what you and your family want. Enjoy your camping, shower outside, or enjoy the free shower at a campsite/rv park (if it has one). Excited to see what you do with this one!
Outdoor showers are a good idea on paper. Great if your boondocking, but I've used a few on rather chilly days after dirt biking. Not be best, but I certainly get it. save the space. You need a little teak pallet to keep your feet out of the dirt and a pop up shelter. It will take a few extra steps to set up. I'd go with "poop shoot"
Was hoping someone else asked and sorry if i missed it. How much did Mountain Modern charge for what looks like a “Partial Airstream Renovation Build I” solution”? I’m in the early stages of wanting to get an airstream and am evaluating options of renovating an older unit vs just spending half my retirement savings on a new (newer) unit.
This is gonna be fun! Outside showers are gold.
When I think of all the other things you have built, I’m pretty sure this is going be an amazing camper once you have finished. Looking forward to follow the process 😀
Black (toilet)water, grey (rinse/waste) water, fresh (drinking) water. Good luck! I can’t wait to see this.
You did the smartest thing possible, had a professional rebuild of the frame and shell. It was painful to watch Andy complete this phase and the result was just O.K. Both of you guys are very talented woodworkers so his inside was very cool and no doubt yours will also be a fantastic. Good luck.
I am also a casualty of the "how hard can it be" my suggestion for matching the contour of the interior is to get one of those pin gauges for copying elaborate details. Draw a line on the wall where your...whatever. .your cabinet will go, and using the gauge just copy 12" at a time, the curve of the inside then transfer that to your template or work piece or whatever. It's slow, but it works
You should put the under bed storage on tracks so it can slide in and out easily and you don't have reach way in the back
That would definitely work for the back hatch storage but there might not be enough space inside to slide out storage.
Being able to lift up the bed on a hinge would probably be the best option.
@@jamingaming9251 I have 2 gas struts and a hinge on mine. Hit the latch and PSSSHHHT up it goes then just press it down and put the pillows back onto the bed. I also installed tracks so the center section could slide out easily and it's still fully accessible from the inside.
@@bullyakker he's put the wall right up against the bottom of the bed.
He might have been able to have a center draw that fit through the door.
@@bullyakker I don't think he's used the under bed storage as efficiently as he could have but it does serve his needs.
Dang man, you spot on called that conversation on the couch. Thats exactly how many conversations have gone down in our household.
Yippy!!! I have a 1987 Fleetwood Wilderness I bought recently. I'm so pumped that I can follow you updating an old camper!! I need the help with updating ideas.
Andy Rawls is a great source. I've followed him through the whole Argosy build. Good luck!
This is going to be a fun ride. I redid a pop up camper, not a complete like your doing and it was fun. Your style of creativity is going to be awesome. So let the fun begin. Thanks for letting us tag along
Weight distribution is key, not just what is built in but what you bring on trips too. I’ll be tuned in to see how you tackle the challenges. Thanks for the content
Instead of mounting a shower fixture to the outside of the Airstream… make a slotted wooden platform (to keep your feet out of the mud) that holds a freestanding shower curtain/stall. The poles (fiberglass sections like tent poles) can all broke down and be stored under the platform (holes drilled horizontally into the platform structure) and the whole thing is then stored in the truck bed or trailer during transport. Think Army style field shower…
I'm committing to watching every episode of the is build....which is what I do anyway when it comes to your videos.
If this is anything close to the excellence of your boat build - this is going to be EPIC! Can't wait.
You're COMPLETELY NUTS, and I am so here for it, very excited to watch, cannot wait to see what you come up with. Sure it will be gorgeous and well done!!
I have seen many people remodel older airstreams and have turned really nice. Make sure to check for water leaks while you are close to just the shell. I have seen people having to rip out cabinets to seal a leaky rivet.
I watched the whole series Rawls did, excellent work! You picked a good guy to learn from. 🙂👍
Jason! Congratulations on a very entertaining series! Love your craftsmanship, imagination, sense of humor and willingness to experiment and maybe fail and adjust.
As an owner of a similar-sized Airstream trailer, I encourage you, as have so many others, to reconsider your decision not to have an inside shower. An outside shower may be fine for rinsing sand off from the beach on a sunny day, but it would be unusable for daily showers unless you plan on boondocking exclusively or camping only in nudist campgrounds! No showers outside in bad weather either. There's a reason every Airstream the size of yours comes with an inside shower. I'll bet you're getting more advice pushing back on this design choice than any other. Did your family vote? Either way, good luck and I look forward to future episodes!
I am so excited to see you build this up. I hope you still make a couple other videos to change things up but I am very excited. Thank you for your time and for sharing this with us all. One love to all.
Got a 1966 Overlander. Been "renovating" it for 10 years. Never ending job, especially on almost zero budget. Just now able to afford new axles so the roof AC will stop crushing the roof with every bump on the road. Glad you got to use a professional to get a solid foundation.
Excited for this series. I've always wanted an Airstream
So fun! I actually watched one of your older videos when I started building the cabinetry for my own Airstream renovation. I’m almost done. It’s taken me a year. Happy building!
Just to add to the rest of the people who've said the same thing. You need an inside shower. You will %100 regret not having one. Spring and fall camping can be chilly outside and some places don't allow you to shower outside. A wet bath doesn't add much more space.
Sounds like you have experience but... it depends on your use of the trailer, right? The man maybe doesn't plan on camping in fall and spring... When doing a personnal projet, I think you need to do you.
Noooo save the space inside. No need for an inside shower that will just be one more thing to clean anyway
The campground at Acadia doesn’t have showers and you can’t shower outside. I’m not sure if most national parks are similar, but I really like having an indoor shower to avoid the drive to the coin operated showers outside the campground. So another vote for rethinking the indoor shower.
@@larryg2707 There's a shower built in outside the trailer so...
@@MrGougui Yes, and you can't use it in some parks per the rules. In others you would be standing in a mud pit unless you bring a raised wooden floor. I like the indoor shower and the the outdoor shower in our airstream and wouldn't want to be without either one.
You should do a slide out drawer in the back under the bed. That way you could use the full space, pull it out and use it all. It will make life so much easier to reach things in the back. I know they have similar setups for pick up trucks.
You got this Jason!! You can do anything! We are all here to watch.
I was waiting for you to get in touch with Andy. I watched his whole build series start to finish. You made a good decision contracting out the shell.
One thing I would be super careful about is making sure that you keep the weight light. It would be super easy to overload the axels especially with typical materials like plywood and hardwood.
Andy was my intro to woodworking on UA-cam. Glad to see him featured on your channel!
Haha I was thinking Andy Rawls a couple episodes ago when I saw that Airstream in your driveway. Then the whole first half I was wondering if you stumbled on his build on youtube. Two of my favorite woodworkers...
so glad you gave this person from Texas a cameo / UA-camrs are real not like the News
Jason so excited to see where this series goes and prolly gonna join patreon to see more. I know you're a Ford guy and if you do end up going camping a ton, you might consider getting the F-150 lightning next time you're due up for a new truck. I developed and designed a big portion of the rear end of the current one and the vehicle itself is an airstream owner's dream in terms of features. Been watching your work since the start of the pandemic while I was still working at Ford and churned through the back catalog when we were all trapped inside. Cheers man.
It's amazing that when you start the airstream renovation... it means you have made it in the woodworking world!
Long-time viewer always enjoyable there's your engagement.
I was super excited to watch Andy's refurbishing of his Argosy and I will be super excited to watch your progress on the Airstream.
Whatever you decide to install inside over the rear hatch access- keep the access available via a door/hatch inside. This will be a lifesaver later because the side entry door just won’t cut it later during the build when you’re trying to move long skinny stuff inside. Flooring- keep it simple stupid… Marmolium sheet flooring is easy to install, wears great, easy to clean and fun colors. DO NOT Use click flooring! Don’t skimp on the toilet- the good ones are crazy expensive but save you from dealing with a lot of shit later (if ya know what I mean). Definitely keep the bathroom small and simple and do keep a shower inside. I’m a fan of a whole room shower pan or even a small stand-up tub/shower as they help save water. Cabinet carcasses should be skeletonized to save weight- all those cut outs are worth it. Don’t build your cabinets too deep which ends up making your walkway too skinny-skinny. Keep the faces light- so it doesn’t turn into a cave. Looking forward to your build!
An idea to consider for your airstream bathroom is a product called " sink twice" , which is a two piece dual flush sink that sits on the tiloilet tank and your toilet can then use the grey water to flush. Saves space, water and you get clean hands.
Hey, Jason, You’re going to do great. You’re a very competent woodworker/cabinet maker. It’ll look great. You’ll see.
Hi Jason! Love your videos! I can't wait to see this project finished. But please rethink the outside shower. I think your wife would eventually prefer to shower inside the trailer.
Propane fridges are NOT a maintenance nightmare. Some of them are poorly made and there have been certain brands with recalls and even fires, but when you get one that works, it just works and it just sips propane. I own and rent multiple RVs and never have any issues with fridges.
You will want to consider making those exterior storage compartments accessible from the inside as well. It's super convenient, when loading the RV< to not have to go inside to put stuff inside. If you can just shove it through an outside portal and it magically appears inside, that's a huge timesaver.
Andy Rawls is the bee's knees! Lookin' forward to the build series!
I did a 64 Airstream Safari years ago. I made templates out of chipboard, and transferred them to my cabinet sides. I used 6mm ribbon mahogany plywood to save weight, and 5/8" thick face frames. My layout was a rear queen bedroom, then bath and kitchen, and twin beds in front that folded up to a table for the kids. I lined my bathroom walls and floor with stainless panels, and you could shower while sitting on the toilet. It was 28 feet bumper to hitch, and weighed 3200 lbs. fully loaded. It took me 6 months.
That is soooo cool!! Cant wait to see what’s gonna happen to this trailer! Grew up camping in a pop up camper (in the summer because Québec…) and i think that project is gonna be freaking cool when completed and extremely funny to watch! Dont give up and keep maming awsome videos!
And also, the outside shower… i understand the point, but not a good idea.
You built a flippin boat! I expect greatness from you my friend!
What a great plot twist! I’m excited to follow along!
Looks awesome - can't wait to see how you transform the interior!
I had a pandemic project of redoing the interior of a 13' fibreglass trailer from 1975, nowhere near as glam as your Airstream, but it was awesome to tackle a challenge I knew nothing about... and now it looks great!
Super jacked for this build. You’re going to do the trailer right. Agree with the exterior shower. I’d suggest creating good insulating and weather seals on those hatches. That poop chute looks great. 😅
I see a lot of great comments, I did not go through and read them all. On the subject of a propane refrigerator I would suggest a Dometic. They are probably the best available. Propane has been used for years by the Amish. I have a Norcold brand and had it redone a few years ago is Shipshwana, IN. by National RV Refrigeration. He is Amish and is very knowledgeable. Anyway if you can do propane/electric it allows you to camp without electricity (dry camping). It is an awesome way to got at times. For example I camped 2 miles from the South Rim of the Grand Canyon and spent 4 days in the National Forest dispersion camping for free. Good luck we lived in an RV for 5 years full time, and traveled from Key West to Alaska on a 2 year trip. Good Luck.
Good luck! Can't wait to see the progress!
I recall you making the same disclaimers when you started the aMAZing treeless treehouse. 😂 So I am excited about watching this Airstream series. You have imagination, skills, and follow through, which powers your great projects. 👍
I've had several trailers and they all had propane refrigerators. As long as you make sure it's level they're really not a big problem. I didn't really have any noteworthy issues with any of them. Enjoy your experience.
Oh I think this will be a wonderful series. And I predict you will never miss that inside shower. Looking forward to some curved furniture!