@@AbdurRahman-mp7td You left islam because of secular liberalism. This is a fact. You got indoctrinated into the materialistic system. Materialism is desires.
our daughters......our women....we dont own people. At best we are guardians/stuarts of our children until they are mature and grown enough to take care of themselves.
I think parents should be involved in the life of their children even if they grow up I mean we can see messed up relationships, depression because western modern secularism cannot provide something good for the people, only traditional families can.
@@G_Singh222 Involved yes - but taking a back seat. Dont stop your children from moving out etc. Give them advice - but let them make their own mistakes. Their lives are theirs you dont own your children
@Some_Deist Your premise is wrong: depression etc. exists regardless of theism or secularism - if anything I would say religion can generate and exacerbate mental health conditions. Especially more dogmatic religions can repress people and actively cause psychological harm through constantly feeling guilt and fear, and being criticised by other people because you don't live like they think you should according to their own version of that religion. I don't know why you think only traditional families can give people good lives. It's limiting for everyone to only follow traditional gender norms. What If a father likes to cook and be more involved in caring for children? What if the woman does not want to be a housewife? Everyone should be able to live their lives fully and self-actualise according to their own wishes and inclinations. Also, secularism gave me personally something immensely important: a sound moral Framework, because I actively question everything constantly (which religion discourages you from). In certain religions (e.g. Islam) it's okay to kill in one context and bad to kill in another, depending on whether god randomly allows it or not. Through secularism, I could come to the conclusion by myself that killing is morally wrong no matter what (that's just one example). Because of it's repressive and dogmatic nature, religion does more harm than good and should be a thing of the past in my opinion.
😂👉 Daniel is afraid of women knowing more than him. he don't want women to be free and independent. Because it will ruined his barbarian way's of Islam.
To say that the others are also bad makes you not any better. That's childlike reasoning. When you catch a child with the hands in the cookie jar and it tells : But mom, my brother has eaten the cookies too. All religions are bad.
I just sort of noticed this, perhaps the first time I wasn't paying much attention but like, Saffiyah Sabreen's rhetoric about the "K*ffar" is just neo-n@zi tier shit. If someone said "non-christian/white/european/german women etc etc etc" lie about being r@p3d and we shouldn't care for them that would class them as an indisputable far right element by European and American standards, but somehow she is considered a progressive? I mean, compared to Daniel perhaps but that messed up standard is still very much bothersome. Progressive Muslim beliefs are very much mid-far right by western Standards and that is just such a big irony.
I wanna watch this but I also don’t bc i already know it will just make me upset. Hearing conservative religious ppl talk about why women shouldn’t be educated is so depressing and sad.
@@batman-sr2px Perhaps a belief system forcing a man to do the bare minimum to keep you alive does not really satisfy one's pyramid of needs. Not even pets just need to be "provided for". As long as we have achieved the bare necessities for our survival we tend to wish to explore our potential, handicapping that by refusing education via soft or hard means is inhuman.
@@batman-sr2px Nothing naturally human about wearing clothes either, our ancestors didn't wear them for a good majority of our existence, guess you will be going butt naked tomorrow at work or whatever then
@@batman-sr2px tf are u talking about? What isnt human about learning and exploring ur horizons? Isnt what makes humans human their intellect and ability to critically think and expand and grow?
Islamic feminism is a losing battle. You only have to twist the literal words of the Qur'an and cherry pick so much that it becomes ridiculous to Muslims and Ex Muslims alike.
@@inbb510 even muslim scholars cherry pick especially in women's cases. for example, they would stress the reasons for polygamy and insist that it is right of man, but will not stress the importance of keeping equality between those wives and that the men could invite hellfire if they can't do justice between their wives.
"Women's morality favours care. Men's sense of morality favours justice" That's the most idiotic statement I've ever heard. Since when are 'care' and 'justice' mutually exclusive? Moreso, has this gender-trait correlation ever been observed and empirically attested? If so, how? As far as Im seeing, Daniel's whole approach consists of conflating mere personal opinion with factual data.
@sven the manifestation differs from person to person, not primarily between genders. I believe this is what you meant to express anyway if I may be so presumptuous ;)
Daniel Haqiqatou simply does not want women economically or financially free to leave bad marriages. His fallacious argument, blaming education for divorce, was utterly preposterous. Abuse, mistreatment, incompatibility causes divorce. His solution for the high divorce was to LIMIT a woman's access to education. Women cherish good marriages. Really, he couldn't think of real solutions for bad marriages.
@@hitmanx3475 Women in America can initiate divorce proceedings, because they have legal rights. They also have economic rights. They can earn a living after a divorce. Divorce is a very necessary human right. When people need to end a marriage, they usually have a very good reason.
@@hitmanx3475 Growing up with two parents that hate each other and fight in front of you is much more toxic. Growing up with a father, who slaps or beats the mother is the worst. If one parent is alcoholic or abusive, divorce is actually very healthy. My goddaughter is a happy and successful human being, her parents broke up when she was 3 months old. I believe that they did the right thing.
@@hitmanx3475 Judges in the United States *rarely* award alimony. Alimony dates back to the 1950s and 1960s, when women with children would have been impoverished after a divorce. Some judges award spousal support for a 2-4 years, so the wife to resume her career or to finish some form of education to reactivate her career. If a wife stayed home for 10 years, taking care of the kids, her skills are out of date. She is at a severe disadvantage, when she re-enters the work force. FYI, I'm celebrating my 40th wedding anniversary this December. My husband and I both agree that our marriage is healthy, *because* we can divorce. If your spouse would never leave you, what is your incentive to stop the abuse, adultery or addiction. My father should have divorced my mother and received full custody. My father-in-law should have divorced his wife and kept his sons. However, they believed that marriage was for life. They both wasted their lives in toxic relationships. Divorce is bad, but people get over it. What is your solution for better stronger families?
@@hitmanx3475 A father can request *full* physical and legal custody of his children. In the US, responsible fathers automatically get joint legal custody by default. Children over 12 can request their father have primary physical custody. The father of my goddaughter picked her up from school every Friday. He took her on trips/vacations. He attended every soccer game, graduation, birthday party, Father-Daughter Dance and school event. He parked his deluxe motor home in her driveway the night before Thanksgiving and on Christmas Eve. Therefore, Bob, his parents and sister were in Blair's home every Thanksgiving morning and Christmas morning, when she woke up. If Blair ever needed anything, she could call her father. If a father disappears after a divorce, that is *his*choice. So, a divorce father can be an active involved parent.
@@hitmanx3475 You were wondering, if 50% of all marriages are toxic and abusive. I imagine that many sociologists are trying to get that statistic. Some ethnic groups (like Irish Travellers) report up to 80% spousal abuse. In the US, 60% of all police officers beat their wives. My husband and I were both born into toxic marriages. As a result, we never wanted children. We both reasoned that we could escape a bad marriage quickly, if no children were involved. My grandmother strongly warned us to NEVER marry young. It was her subtle way of telling us that she had an unhappy marriage. She advised her granddaughters to get an education FIRST.
I will never understand women like her, I didnt even watch the debate because I know there is nothing to support women "empowerment" as she would want it in Islam. Some people just cant escape the bubble of religion, even though doing so would make their life much easier and stress free.
Given the tools are arising for leaving many Muslim are, they are just less vocal about the fact they have left than the men. There are exmuslim women out there if you look for them.
@@svensvenforkedbeard170 I know but imagine ex Muslim girls trapped in places like Pakistan and Iran while she chooses to defend this shite while living in a free society. Use your privilege!
What I like about D. Haqikatsu (or whatever) he says what Islam says. Child marriages, women beating, sex slavery.....etc., he does not try to conceal. After hearing all these, how on earth this woman doesn't become an apostate, I can't understand.
It’s interesting how he blurred her face in the thumbnail but didn’t in the video. I really think that some Muslims like Daniel believe that Allah is not only so petty but also easy to fool.
It’s like when Dawah boys refuse to shake woman’s hand “I’m rescpecting you sister by not touching you”! You are doing the exact opposite you idiots! Oh my blood boils at such stupidity 🤦🏻
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh We captured some of the women as prisoners, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women (coitus interruptus). We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) whether it was permissible. He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside." Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
@@greenbananas12378 Its not, its a comment on Islam; Muslim women should not expose their face in public depending on tradition so its odd he won't show a woman's face in the thumbnail but he will in the video.
Daniel is traditional muslim and very honest about traditional Islam. I believe being against and having strong dislike for feminism is quite new phenomenon. I remember years back, maybe early/mid 2000s there was a lot of discussion on islamic feminism, and I believe in those time the notion "Islam is feminist" emerged. And now we are in the stage of muslims distancing themselves from feminism especially women which itself is shocking. This all can be due to effective dawah where feminism is painted as something evil and corrupt consept. It is sad that there are people debating on women's education, truly saddening. Daniel and likes are afraid of educated women and the power of education to increase equality between women and men.
Feminism is against human nature. All feminists want a strong man. They don't want an emotional weak man. I don't hear feminist organisations when there is war and men have to fight. I've never heard them crying to be discriminated because they can't partake in the war.
@@theworld303 you never understood the meaning of feminism not even the cultural historical context. Why would you since it's unislamic 🤣! You can go on to talk nonsense about feminism from what you see on mainstream media. Cope! 🌚
@@theworld303 why do you have issues with people exposing Islam when you don't have issues when you talking bullshit about feminism? As long as people serve your narrative it's fine for you but when we expose your garbage cult you are triggered. What a helpless son!
@@theworld303 and you literally believe people believe what you rant here. There is no doubt that you Muhammad and Islam both are red pilled and we all acknowledge how feminism takes away your breath. Men cannot even describe feminism properly but can definitely not leave any stone unturned to portray in a false narrative. How low will you mullahs stoop?
As someone who has studied the Quran, and in practical terms it is impossible to understand the Quran without references to external sources such as the Hadith and Sira. Yet these sources are often contradictory and almost never agreed on by many. Even in the Quran, devout Muslim scholars infer dramatically different meanings from the same verses. I don’t know if those people are still categorized as Muslims because they are notorious for always ignoring the original Arabic and pretending that Quranic passages that collide with modern sensibilities today have different meanings in the original language, even though its true meaning has already been translated by previous scholars worth thousands of years.
Gee, why didn't Allah, the Creator of the universe, communicate to humans in a clear, precise and unambiguous manner. Or Allah could give humans a messaging system that cleared up disputes. That would be an easy task for the creator of the universe, who formed stars, black holes, planets, matter, light and energy.
@@annegreengables6367 To be honest, i myself am amazed that it should be religion that changes people and not the other way around. Also belief and knowledge are not the same thing and becoming a Muslim is as simple as repeating the shahada. How does that confer knowledge?
@@josm1481 The Quran is divided into 114 chapters that contain verses and at least 109 verses of it speak of war with nonbelievers. Muslims who do not join the fight are called hypocrites and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. How can that be the perfect teaching?
Daniel is the definition of "You won the debate but you hurt your side". His debate with Destiny for example would leave any sane person like "I had no idea how messed up Islam is, I guess I should oppose it". Edit: Anyway read Engel's "The Origin of the Family". People like Daniel get away too easily with essentialist nonsensical arguments about marriage and gender roles because most people simply have never questioned where those concepts come from and what role they serve.
@@Kassey194 Secular liberalism lost. You make the same mistake as Destiny. You assume your morality is good without proving it. You just try to lift on secular liberal popular values indoctrinated by the system. Daniel thinks outside the box. You want to keep people in the box of presuppositions and indoctrination.
@@theworld303 I can definitely prove my morality to be good to a satisfactory extend, issue is that the standard for proof for you is for my morality to be found word by word written on an ancient 300.000 year old tablet that is also recognized as the word of god by your religious leaders which is obviously a standard I can't meet. Also, I am not a secular liberal, I am a pluralist Communist.
Usually I''m more elaborate in my comments, but in this case I cut it short: I followed quite a lot of Daniels 'presentations' and in essence I consider him as a full fledged fascist in religious disguise.
@@TetrahedronIX this is just a suggestion. Let's stop calling him the profit muhammad. Let's just refer to him as Muhammad. He was a narcissist and a con man.
And Daniel Haqiqatou is so good at it. David Wood performed a brilliant comedy routine about Daniel Haqiqatou, Ali Dawah and Mohamed Hijab. He imagined that they all met in secret years ago. They wanted to dismantle Islam, but didn't want fanatics to kill them. So they concocted this elaborate scheme to make Islam look so bad, they drive devotees away. They look like devoted Muslims, while they are successfully causing apostasy.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@svensvenforkedbeard170 I send Daniel's clips to my rich, elitist liberal leftist friends. They finally believe that Islam is a toxic, misogynistic, imperialistic, totalitarian regime, thinly disguised as a religion.
As a devout moslem, i felt confused the minit i read the topic. It shoudnt exist at all. Thank God that such of a discussion doesnt exist in my country ...
Yeah, the topics Muslims debate about are pretty messed up. Reminds me of the debate Apostate Prophet did with Dr. Khalid on the topic: "Should Ex-Muslims be Executed?" That being said there are a lot people that hold messed up views so I feel these topics are worth debating for that reason
This is my first time listening to Daniel. I must confess he has the potential of a thousand and one ex Muslim. Dude is conveniently making Islam look bad. Masha Allah.
18:15 that's so true, in the beginning she said that she got an engineering degree and left her 6 figure career to do this and got shit on by her own faith, truly a tragedy, she's trapped in her own life
I have watched some videos with Daniel and if you pay close attention to his words you almost get a sense that this guy has been bullied/hurt by girls and just in general felt like an outcast in whatever society he lived/lives. His two main points always come down to 1. Women must obey men, 2. Islam gives you cummunity/friendships. It's sad that this is the only he thinks he can have women and friendships
Saying women’s sense of morality “emphasizes care more than justice” (not gonna get into that sexist framing) isn’t even necessarily a negative thing. If you think about it, that paradigm is becoming more dominant as humanity progresses. For example, having a social safety net for people, and emphasizing rehabilitation over punishment. Anyways, care ethics is a whole ethical theory and there’s a lot of feminist writing on it.
Issue is that for Daniel a lack of people suffering is a lack of justice being served hence he will obviously view people with higher levels of emotional intelligence as inherently immoral.
My theory is that if he wasn’t Muslim and if it wasn’t for Islamic laws that cater to these incels, he wouldn’t have made it this far with his relationship with women considering he is married atm lol
I hope that his wife apostatizes in a big way. Daniel has gone on record advocating 1. adult men marrying 9-year-old girls. 2. Death penalty for apostates. 3. Sex slavery of infidel women. 4. Slavery of infidels. 5. Beating your wife. If his wife wanted a divorce and full custody of the kids, he's given her the ammunition on a silver platter.
Yup Incels love Islam because they can use it as an excuse to get submission from women which they definitely would not if there wasn't Islam. Women will Naturally accept and mate with competent and superior men not INCELS like Daniel
The problem with the Quran and Hadith is it can justify both these extremely different points of view. But from Islamic historical jurisprudence standpoint Daniel Haqiqatjou is correct. From the standpoint of how the West views Islam Safiyyah Sabreen is correct. The Quran is contradictory and vague, which allows one to cherry point interpretations from Hadith.
The issue is, the Western viewpoint on Islam isn't exactly a valid viewpoint, the Islamic worldview is supposed to be based entirely upon the Quran and Hadith, there should not be any external value set affecting how scripture is interpreted and how Fiqh is derived from scripture, for that would be against Quranic commandment(Surah 4:60, Surah 4:65), those that adopt the "Western" view of Islam are simply trying to forcibly read Western values into Islamic scripture, for they see the Western viewpoint as the best viewpoint and believe that the Islamic viewpoint should align with this viewpoint due to their beliefs, they may also be driven by an innate desire to make Islam seem appealing to a Western audience, this is why classical scholarship is much better than modern scholarship, for classical scholars don't have their worldview tainted by Western values or an innate desire to make Islam look appealing to a Western audience, they are focussed on trying to derived the most accurate understanding and from there deriving the Fiqh most accurate to what scripture says. Besides the Quran actually doesn't allow for the Western interpretation. Many of these "Western" viewpoints rely on purposely ignoring parts of scripture, relying on false Hadiths or straight up twisting the Arabic.
This was an exceptionally well made video. Dissecting a long video by croping only the most important bits and preparing a script. Very nice. I appreciate you for valuing my time.
24:55 Haqiqatjou isn't a convert. Sadly, the dude is born from Iranian parents, and the fact that he's originally from where I'm from pains me to the core
Why women should not go to school? So they are unable to leave an oppressive environment and claim their rights. However, having equals in a relationship means you have a teammate to support you when are struggling.
As she pointed Hindu faith. The sacred scriptures of Hinduism vedas were also compiled by women. Women were mantradrashtas. Even the goddess of learning, music , art is saraswati and goddess of veda is gayatri. Even the supreme being in some sects of Hinduism is feminine. I think she doesn't even know what are Upanishads. Upanishads are hindu philosophical litrature. Just like greek philosophical works of Aristotle, Pythagoras, Archimedes etc. She talked about some University founded by muslim. What did the islamic invaders did when the entered India? They destroyed temples. They burnt Buddhist universities. Students from china, japan used to come and study topics like metallurgy, astronomy, medicine, litrature etc. They burnt Buddhist / hindu libraries. Those books were manuscripts. Islam destroyed the knowledge which we can never recover. If there is an ideological problem with Islam just blame Christians, jews, hindus and others.
hinduism isnt monolithic, many beliefs and trditions are pole opposite but still called hinduism today. the dogmas and traditions she was talking about are patriarchal obviously just like any mainstream traditional system. but her tactic was to compare daniel version of muhammadism to upanishad was silly also displays her ideas and bigotry.
@@whydontyoustfu yes. she was talking about Upanishads, thats where i found it silly. If she had blamed smrutis i would have agreed to some extent. Becouse smrutis are somewhat patriarchal and were even fabricated. But shrutis are neutral. In shrutis even women wore yajnopaveetam. Some parts of shrutis were composed by women. Now shrutis have become more of men's job becouse later people prohibited yajnopaveetam for women. Even there are so many matriarchal things in smruti and shriti. Hinduism doesn't have one a book or prophet. But has bunch of books. Literally its like a library. 4 vedas, 108 Upanishads, aranyakas, puranas, upa puranas, dharma Shastras (parashara smruti, manusruti etc), geetas, agama shastras, tantric shastras, natya Shastra and so many. One can never master all the knowledge of Hinduism in a lifetime. Daniel is another level in patriarchy. Like literally she is blaming Upanishads for his ignorance.
Let those ads for Muslim mosques and charities play to the end. I recommend that you even click through to their website but not donate. You can turn off the volume.
2:55 its weird how desensitized i have been made to people questioning these things that my friends who have never been muslim would be extremely confused to the point of thinking it might be satire
Daniel seems to enjoy harsh societal control mechanisms. I recently watched a good youtuber's video sub-clip on slut-shaming and how he thinks game theory really brings it's utility to light. Considering the direction modern "counter culture" is headed, Islam doesn't seem too far off.
Even if we grant them the benefit of the doubt and assume woman empowerment does in fact undermine collective values, doesnt the integrity of these values ultimately rest upon the personal autonomy of the individual? Since the individual is the carrier of these ideals it seems to me that divesting them of their autonomy destabilizes collective values more than the granting them the freedom of choice. True morality presupposes the fact that the individual always chooses right from wrong out of his own volition.
I think Daniel would more be a “Muslim un-apologist” than an apologist because he is actually honest about the controversial and uncomfortable beliefs in Islam that apologists normally sugarcoat or dance around. Since you were not on either side of the debate, I knew I could expect a fair analysis which you have provided. I did watch the debate and it look like he won and she rage quit. And afterwards, Daniel’s wife did a video on his channel about her agreeing with him on that Muslim women should not go to college.
Danial Haqiqatjou not only makes me hate Islam so much but also want to disassociate me with everything that has to do with my islamic culture and country.
Brilliant analysis. I 'follow' Daniel for quite a while already and quite obviously he is a fascist in religious disguise. The only good thing about him is that he is brutally honest, with emphasis on "brutally". As you rightly analyze, she (as many other Muslim women) is in trouble. You can bend and twist the Quran as much as you want, you just can't fit it to reason and modern moral understanding.
Why do they keep bringing up the Hindus? Lmao I saw another video where a girl was giving her criticism of Islam but nothing about her indicated she was a Hindu yet the top comment was " omg the Lindus have to keep mentioning us hahaha " They even kept saying Lindu in the thread as if Hindu is some word they are scared of. Ironically they are the ones who keep mentioning other religious groups.
In hinduism there is separate sect for shakta people can follow both shiva and shakti. Shakti is the female counterpart its not that popular but Godess worship is common. I am not hindu but i know few things about it. The muslim lady in the debate has half knowledge.
The title made me laugh. It reminds me of a Grumpy cat meme with her watching a football match and saying "I hope both teams lose." Surprisingly, in some rare instances like these apologist debates, this is actually possible.
Every time I hear "prefer virgins" I understand the speaker to mean "I'm sexually inept or insecure and would feel self-conscious with a sexual partner who had any experience."
Sura Al Qasas clearly depicts the social interactions of the daughters of Prophet Shuaib and Prophet Musa rearing sheep clearly goes against Daniel's understanding of Islam
Greetings from Croatia. I have been following you for the past two weeks and got sucked in. I don't know why, but it's very interesting to me to hear this stuff about Islam comming from muslims. Islam sounds like, a religion that is an exception. Much love and support for your channel, and for you personaly. Your content is very thought out, but it is clear this stuff still bothers you and that it was a very bad trip being on the inside. God bless you, for whatever it means to you.
Im a pagan wiccan but also kinda agnostic bc I don't know exactly what higher power is but I make sense of it's energy by seeing it as a god and goddess , two energies that make one. But my religion doesn't have many morals that it puts on people besides not to harm others so I don't think it's a bad religion... N I don't try to convert anyone n I question everything I don't have blind faith.. well I guess to an extent on some things I do but not in a toxic way . It helps me with a lot of my grief from losing my mom when I was 20 n my bf as well and it doesn't hurt anyone so it bothers me when some atheists mock anyone who believes in a higher power
Good video However at around 2:30 it seems you changed it from "should they" to "should they be allowed" which are not the same thing. But again, good video
19:54 Didn't want to be the "scripture police" here, but have to since the fingers are pointed towards my community now, as a person who has read the 18 major Upanishads, there's nowhere in the texts where it's written that we have to keep our women in constraints in their "fertile period", we infact pray to goddesses and I myself treat any and every women as goddess incarnate, most hindus do, as for the burning women with the husband's corpse, it started because of islamic rule Because they invaded the country and Muslims being muslim would make those widows into sex slaves so the women chose go rather give their bodies in fire than to be violated, and then after time and time, due to islamic rule, it became a ritual
The sanad (chain of narrations in the hadis) which mention the name Aisha is the proof that the companions of the Prophet learns directly from Aisha through decent social interactions, thus showing that Muslimah should go to college
Well Daniel can simply argue that it is an exception and the fact that barely any women narrate Hadith show that women are weaker in intelligence and are therefore not suitable for education. He can even back it up with narrations such as Bukhari 304 and then reinforce it with Ibn Qayyim(Student of Ibn Tayymiyah)'s commentary on it in his work Illam al-Muwaqqin an Rabb Al Alamin 2/114. Although to he fair, there is indeed no scriptural evidence to forbid or promote the education of women so it is really up to the religious leader. However, one would have to consider, given the status of women in Fiqh, the restrictions placed upon them and their designation in the household it is really hard to justify education for them, especially higher education for they cannot really derive much utility from it under an Islamic State.
When women are empowered they are most likely to have the freedom to complain/ express their sadness in the first place. So the statement " women are now unhappier than ever" is likely untrue, we are just starting to take their opinions and mental health seriously.
To demonstrate what I mean: Do you think a woman who lives as Daniel wishes has the right to complain about her status, her situation or her husband? The archetype of the complaining woman is already demonized in Islam so why should she think she has the right to be bothered when she's only fullfilling her "god given role".
i hope she became an atheist or at least started to question the religion after this conversation. the cognitive dissonance is astounding. i’ll never get women defending religion especially abrahamic religions. she seems to be really in denial about the nature of the religion because it’s so tied up with who she feels she is as a person
If stuff that I say would happen, I would say "don't feel guilty that people support you monetarily" because you shouldn't. But I would also say "Let Matt Dillahunty present the best evidence for any god or gods which has no natural explaination".
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If ex-Muslims were to say the things Daniel Haqiqatjou says, they would have hordes screaming; "Islamophobia."
Yeah and they would curse us saying that we left Islam because we want sex and drugs... Hypocrites....
@@AbdurRahman-mp7td
You left islam because of secular liberalism. This is a fact.
You got indoctrinated into the materialistic system.
Materialism is desires.
@@theworld303 you know me so well.
@@HassanRadwan133
I read some of your articles. Your morality is based on secular liberalism.
He will completely dismantle your worldview.
@@HassanRadwan133
It's not personal. I have nothing against you.
Beating women for not dressing “properly”…If this isn’t compulsion in religion, then I don’t know what is.
our daughters......our women....we dont own people. At best we are guardians/stuarts of our children until they are mature and grown enough to take care of themselves.
THAT'S THE THING. Islam infantilizes women. They remain in the "kids under your custody" phase
I think parents should be involved in the life of their children even if they grow up I mean we can see messed up relationships, depression because western modern secularism cannot provide something good for the people, only traditional families can.
@@G_Singh222 Involved yes - but taking a back seat. Dont stop your children from moving out etc. Give them advice - but let them make their own mistakes. Their lives are theirs you dont own your children
@Some_Deist Your premise is wrong: depression etc. exists regardless of theism or secularism - if anything I would say religion can generate and exacerbate mental health conditions. Especially more dogmatic religions can repress people and actively cause psychological harm through constantly feeling guilt and fear, and being criticised by other people because you don't live like they think you should according to their own version of that religion. I don't know why you think only traditional families can give people good lives. It's limiting for everyone to only follow traditional gender norms. What If a father likes to cook and be more involved in caring for children? What if the woman does not want to be a housewife? Everyone should be able to live their lives fully and self-actualise according to their own wishes and inclinations. Also, secularism gave me personally something immensely important: a sound moral Framework, because I actively question everything constantly (which religion discourages you from). In certain religions (e.g. Islam) it's okay to kill in one context and bad to kill in another, depending on whether god randomly allows it or not. Through secularism, I could come to the conclusion by myself that killing is morally wrong no matter what (that's just one example). Because of it's repressive and dogmatic nature, religion does more harm than good and should be a thing of the past in my opinion.
😂👉 Daniel is afraid of women knowing more than him. he don't want women to be free and independent. Because it will ruined his barbarian way's of Islam.
By the way his wife also oxford graduate
@@abeliever7301Yet had audacity to make fun of Afghan girls who can't go school. Should sent daniel to Pakistan or even Afghanistan
Why did she keep talking about Hindus?
They talk about everything but their peaceful scientific religion
They like to divert to other religions when you pressure theirs
To say that the others are also bad makes you not any better. That's childlike reasoning. When you catch a child with the hands in the cookie jar and it tells : But mom, my brother has eaten the cookies too.
All religions are bad.
Cause Hindus bad, cause they polytheists and muslims believe that hindus worship cows.
No muslim outside of India or Bangladesh even know about the existence of hindus
I just sort of noticed this, perhaps the first time I wasn't paying much attention but like, Saffiyah Sabreen's rhetoric about the "K*ffar" is just neo-n@zi tier shit. If someone said "non-christian/white/european/german women etc etc etc" lie about being r@p3d and we shouldn't care for them that would class them as an indisputable far right element by European and American standards, but somehow she is considered a progressive? I mean, compared to Daniel perhaps but that messed up standard is still very much bothersome. Progressive Muslim beliefs are very much mid-far right by western Standards and that is just such a big irony.
I wanna watch this but I also don’t bc i already know it will just make me upset. Hearing conservative religious ppl talk about why women shouldn’t be educated is so depressing and sad.
It's simultaneously depressing and hilarious
@@batman-sr2px Are you male and married? If so, does your wife have an education? Haqiqatjou’s wife is a Harvard graduate.
@@batman-sr2px Perhaps a belief system forcing a man to do the bare minimum to keep you alive does not really satisfy one's pyramid of needs. Not even pets just need to be "provided for". As long as we have achieved the bare necessities for our survival we tend to wish to explore our potential, handicapping that by refusing education via soft or hard means is inhuman.
@@batman-sr2px Nothing naturally human about wearing clothes either, our ancestors didn't wear them for a good majority of our existence, guess you will be going butt naked tomorrow at work or whatever then
@@batman-sr2px tf are u talking about? What isnt human about learning and exploring ur horizons? Isnt what makes humans human their intellect and ability to critically think and expand and grow?
Islamic feminism is a losing battle.
You only have to twist the literal words of the Qur'an and cherry pick so much that it becomes ridiculous to Muslims and Ex Muslims alike.
@@inbb510 even muslim scholars cherry pick especially in women's cases. for example, they would stress the reasons for polygamy and insist that it is right of man, but will not stress the importance of keeping equality between those wives and that the men could invite hellfire if they can't do justice between their wives.
I swear that listening to the fragments of this “debate” gave a me a headache. I admire you AA for being able to fully listen to all of this.
"Women's morality favours care. Men's sense of morality favours justice"
That's the most idiotic statement I've ever heard. Since when are 'care' and 'justice' mutually exclusive? Moreso, has this gender-trait correlation ever been observed and empirically attested?
If so, how?
As far as Im seeing, Daniel's whole approach consists of conflating mere personal opinion with factual data.
I am a Muslim and I actually have to fully agree with you
Men and women both "care" and "desire justice" they just manifest that "care" and "desire for justice" in different ways.
@@nervnicht9870 Why are you a Muslim?
justice means only a desire to punish. it reduces to sadism.
@sven the manifestation differs from person to person, not primarily between genders. I believe this is what you meant to express anyway if I may be so presumptuous ;)
Daniel Haqiqatou simply does not want women economically or financially free to leave bad marriages. His fallacious argument, blaming education for divorce, was utterly preposterous. Abuse, mistreatment, incompatibility causes divorce. His solution for the high divorce was to LIMIT a woman's access to education. Women cherish good marriages. Really, he couldn't think of real solutions for bad marriages.
@@hitmanx3475 Women in America can initiate divorce proceedings, because they have legal rights. They also have economic rights. They can earn a living after a divorce. Divorce is a very necessary human right. When people need to end a marriage, they usually have a very good reason.
@@hitmanx3475 Growing up with two parents that hate each other and fight in front of you is much more toxic. Growing up with a father, who slaps or beats the mother is the worst. If one parent is alcoholic or abusive, divorce is actually very healthy. My goddaughter is a happy and successful human being, her parents broke up when she was 3 months old. I believe that they did the right thing.
@@hitmanx3475 Judges in the United States *rarely* award alimony. Alimony dates back to the 1950s and 1960s, when women with children would have been impoverished after a divorce. Some judges award spousal support for a 2-4 years, so the wife to resume her career or to finish some form of education to reactivate her career. If a wife stayed home for 10 years, taking care of the kids, her skills are out of date. She is at a severe disadvantage, when she re-enters the work force. FYI, I'm celebrating my 40th wedding anniversary this December. My husband and I both agree that our marriage is healthy, *because* we can divorce. If your spouse would never leave you, what is your incentive to stop the abuse, adultery or addiction. My father should have divorced my mother and received full custody. My father-in-law should have divorced his wife and kept his sons. However, they believed that marriage was for life. They both wasted their lives in toxic relationships. Divorce is bad, but people get over it. What is your solution for better stronger families?
@@hitmanx3475 A father can request *full* physical and legal custody of his children. In the US, responsible fathers automatically get joint legal custody by default. Children over 12 can request their father have primary physical custody. The father of my goddaughter picked her up from school every Friday. He took her on trips/vacations. He attended every soccer game, graduation, birthday party, Father-Daughter Dance and school event. He parked his deluxe motor home in her driveway the night before Thanksgiving and on Christmas Eve. Therefore, Bob, his parents and sister were in Blair's home every Thanksgiving morning and Christmas morning, when she woke up. If Blair ever needed anything, she could call her father. If a father disappears after a divorce, that is *his*choice. So, a divorce father can be an active involved parent.
@@hitmanx3475 You were wondering, if 50% of all marriages are toxic and abusive. I imagine that many sociologists are trying to get that statistic. Some ethnic groups (like Irish Travellers) report up to 80% spousal abuse. In the US, 60% of all police officers beat their wives. My husband and I were both born into toxic marriages. As a result, we never wanted children. We both reasoned that we could escape a bad marriage quickly, if no children were involved. My grandmother strongly warned us to NEVER marry young. It was her subtle way of telling us that she had an unhappy marriage. She advised her granddaughters to get an education FIRST.
I will never understand women like her, I didnt even watch the debate because I know there is nothing to support women "empowerment" as she would want it in Islam. Some people just cant escape the bubble of religion, even though doing so would make their life much easier and stress free.
Given the tools are arising for leaving many Muslim are, they are just less vocal about the fact they have left than the men. There are exmuslim women out there if you look for them.
@@svensvenforkedbeard170 I know but imagine ex Muslim girls trapped in places like Pakistan and Iran while she chooses to defend this shite while living in a free society. Use your privilege!
The misogyny is making my oatmeal and coffee cringe🥲😑
What I like about D. Haqikatsu (or whatever) he says what Islam says. Child marriages, women beating, sex slavery.....etc., he does not try to conceal.
After hearing all these, how on earth this woman doesn't become an apostate, I can't understand.
It’s interesting how he blurred her face in the thumbnail but didn’t in the video. I really think that some Muslims like Daniel believe that Allah is not only so petty but also easy to fool.
It’s like when Dawah boys refuse to shake woman’s hand “I’m rescpecting you sister by not touching you”! You are doing the exact opposite you idiots! Oh my blood boils at such stupidity 🤦🏻
@El-Ḥaakim be-Amr Allāh We captured some of the women as prisoners, and the long separation from our wives was pressing us hard and we wanted to release sperms outside of the women (coitus interruptus). We asked Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) whether it was permissible. He said, "It is better for you to release sperms inside."
Sahih al-Bukhari 2542
Or it’s just click bait to not give away the guest ?????? Why r the comments so ridiculous on this channel
@@greenbananas12378 Oh! Bro. Don’t you know? It’s because all non-Muslims are stoopid, bro, yeah.
@@greenbananas12378 Its not, its a comment on Islam; Muslim women should not expose their face in public depending on tradition so its odd he won't show a woman's face in the thumbnail but he will in the video.
It's heartbreaking how invested she is in somehow reconciling Islam with her moral ideals
Three things happened in 1979
1 - Mecca was invaded by terrorists
2 - Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
3 - Iranian revolution
Its most likely social pressure
Daniel is traditional muslim and very honest about traditional Islam. I believe being against and having strong dislike for feminism is quite new phenomenon. I remember years back, maybe early/mid 2000s there was a lot of discussion on islamic feminism, and I believe in those time the notion "Islam is feminist" emerged. And now we are in the stage of muslims distancing themselves from feminism especially women which itself is shocking. This all can be due to effective dawah where feminism is painted as something evil and corrupt consept. It is sad that there are people debating on women's education, truly saddening. Daniel and likes are afraid of educated women and the power of education to increase equality between women and men.
Feminism is against human nature.
All feminists want a strong man.
They don't want an emotional weak man.
I don't hear feminist organisations when there is war and men have to fight.
I've never heard them crying to be discriminated because they can't partake in the war.
@@theworld303 hence proved why islam is a cult
@@theworld303 you never understood the meaning of feminism not even the cultural historical context. Why would you since it's unislamic 🤣! You can go on to talk nonsense about feminism from what you see on mainstream media. Cope! 🌚
@@theworld303 why do you have issues with people exposing Islam when you don't have issues when you talking bullshit about feminism? As long as people serve your narrative it's fine for you but when we expose your garbage cult you are triggered. What a helpless son!
@@theworld303 and you literally believe people believe what you rant here. There is no doubt that you Muhammad and Islam both are red pilled and we all acknowledge how feminism takes away your breath. Men cannot even describe feminism properly but can definitely not leave any stone unturned to portray in a false narrative. How low will you mullahs stoop?
As someone who has studied the Quran, and in practical terms it is impossible to understand the Quran without references to external sources such as the Hadith and Sira. Yet these sources are often contradictory and almost never agreed on by many. Even in the Quran, devout Muslim scholars infer dramatically different meanings from the same verses. I don’t know if those people are still categorized as Muslims because they are notorious for always ignoring the original Arabic and pretending that Quranic passages that collide with modern sensibilities today have different meanings in the original language, even though its true meaning has already been translated by previous scholars worth thousands of years.
Gee, why didn't Allah, the Creator of the universe, communicate to humans in a clear, precise and unambiguous manner. Or Allah could give humans a messaging system that cleared up disputes. That would be an easy task for the creator of the universe, who formed stars, black holes, planets, matter, light and energy.
Are you trying to say the Koran is not the perfect guide for life? Shocked I tell ya!
A perfect book that needs 6 addendums to understand it....
@@annegreengables6367 To be honest, i myself am amazed that it should be religion that changes people and not the other way around. Also belief and knowledge are not the same thing and becoming a Muslim is as simple as repeating the shahada. How does that confer knowledge?
@@josm1481 The Quran is divided into 114 chapters that contain verses and at least 109 verses of it speak of war with nonbelievers. Muslims who do not join the fight are called hypocrites and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. How can that be the perfect teaching?
@@josm1481 What do you mean by 6 addendums?
You should invite Saffiyah Sabreen for a chat 😁
Daniel is the definition of "You won the debate but you hurt your side". His debate with Destiny for example would leave any sane person like "I had no idea how messed up Islam is, I guess I should oppose it".
Edit: Anyway read Engel's "The Origin of the Family". People like Daniel get away too easily with essentialist nonsensical arguments about marriage and gender roles because most people simply have never questioned where those concepts come from and what role they serve.
Daniel schooled Destiny.
Thank you for mentioning this. I think this is the only argument that matters.
@@theworld303 You know, I don't even disagree. Destiny lost that one but that doesn't mean Islam or Muslims won.
@@Kassey194
Secular liberalism lost.
You make the same mistake as Destiny.
You assume your morality is good without proving it. You just try to lift on secular liberal popular values indoctrinated by the system.
Daniel thinks outside the box. You want to keep people in the box of presuppositions and indoctrination.
@@theworld303 I can definitely prove my morality to be good to a satisfactory extend, issue is that the standard for proof for you is for my morality to be found word by word written on an ancient 300.000 year old tablet that is also recognized as the word of god by your religious leaders which is obviously a standard I can't meet.
Also, I am not a secular liberal, I am a pluralist Communist.
Should be interesting to watch again and painful at the same time.
Dont worry, im not watching the whole thing and it's not a livestream
@@ApostateAladdin The painful part is some of the comments they both made to each other. I expected better conduct between the two of them.
Well, well! Muslims turning on each other. I thought Islam was going to take over the world?
Usually I''m more elaborate in my comments, but in this case I cut it short:
I followed quite a lot of Daniels 'presentations' and in essence I consider him as a full fledged fascist in religious disguise.
Some would say the same about Prophet Mohammad
@@TetrahedronIX this is just a suggestion. Let's stop calling him the profit muhammad. Let's just refer to him as Muhammad. He was a narcissist and a con man.
@@TetrahedronIX Some would say the same about much of the Ummah who choose to stay whilst having knowledge of Islam.
Actually Daniel is the winner here. Any person who manages to make Islam look bad is a winner
Exactly 💯
😂😂😂
And Daniel Haqiqatou is so good at it. David Wood performed a brilliant comedy routine about Daniel Haqiqatou, Ali Dawah and Mohamed Hijab. He imagined that they all met in secret years ago. They wanted to dismantle Islam, but didn't want fanatics to kill them. So they concocted this elaborate scheme to make Islam look so bad, they drive devotees away. They look like devoted Muslims, while they are successfully causing apostasy.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Daniel does the work for ex-muslims, he makes content that shoots Islam down or that can be shot down by apologists fighting against Islam.
@@svensvenforkedbeard170 I send Daniel's clips to my rich, elitist liberal leftist friends. They finally believe that Islam is a toxic, misogynistic, imperialistic, totalitarian regime, thinly disguised as a religion.
As a devout moslem, i felt confused the minit i read the topic. It shoudnt exist at all. Thank God that such of a discussion doesnt exist in my country ...
Yeah, the topics Muslims debate about are pretty messed up. Reminds me of the debate Apostate Prophet did with Dr. Khalid on the topic: "Should Ex-Muslims be Executed?" That being said there are a lot people that hold messed up views so I feel these topics are worth debating for that reason
What kind of devout Muslim are you then?. Daniel and Safiyah are also "devout" Muslims.
This is my first time listening to Daniel. I must confess he has the potential of a thousand and one ex Muslim. Dude is conveniently making Islam look bad. Masha Allah.
Yup.. any sane person who listens to him will run in the opposite direction
@@SR-mv2mf And the people in his comment threads just need to be asked some questions to get the cogs in their brains turning to help them leave.
18:15 that's so true, in the beginning she said that she got an engineering degree and left her 6 figure career to do this and got shit on by her own faith, truly a tragedy, she's trapped in her own life
Oh man I went to listen to that and yeah she did. Crazy.
she should be apostate for that obvious reason,,what a religion smh.....
I did not know islam was this bad
It is.
Remember, try to be patient as muslims are the biggest victims of Islam.
But definitely speak out against the idea!
I have watched some videos with Daniel and if you pay close attention to his words you almost get a sense that this guy has been bullied/hurt by girls and just in general felt like an outcast in whatever society he lived/lives. His two main points always come down to 1. Women must obey men, 2. Islam gives you cummunity/friendships. It's sad that this is the only he thinks he can have women and friendships
Saying women’s sense of morality “emphasizes care more than justice” (not gonna get into that sexist framing) isn’t even necessarily a negative thing. If you think about it, that paradigm is becoming more dominant as humanity progresses. For example, having a social safety net for people, and emphasizing rehabilitation over punishment. Anyways, care ethics is a whole ethical theory and there’s a lot of feminist writing on it.
Issue is that for Daniel a lack of people suffering is a lack of justice being served hence he will obviously view people with higher levels of emotional intelligence as inherently immoral.
I did get my brain fried thanks
My theory is that if he wasn’t Muslim and if it wasn’t for Islamic laws that cater to these incels, he wouldn’t have made it this far with his relationship with women considering he is married atm lol
I hope that his wife apostatizes in a big way. Daniel has gone on record advocating 1. adult men marrying 9-year-old girls. 2. Death penalty for apostates. 3. Sex slavery of infidel women. 4. Slavery of infidels. 5. Beating your wife. If his wife wanted a divorce and full custody of the kids, he's given her the ammunition on a silver platter.
Yup Incels love Islam because they can use it as an excuse to get submission from women which they definitely would not if there wasn't Islam. Women will Naturally accept and mate with competent and superior men not INCELS like Daniel
Good point lol
That infomercial at the end is too funny
The problem with the Quran and Hadith is it can justify both these extremely different points of view. But from Islamic historical jurisprudence standpoint Daniel Haqiqatjou is correct. From the standpoint of how the West views Islam Safiyyah Sabreen is correct. The Quran is contradictory and vague, which allows one to cherry point interpretations from Hadith.
The issue is, the Western viewpoint on Islam isn't exactly a valid viewpoint, the Islamic worldview is supposed to be based entirely upon the Quran and Hadith, there should not be any external value set affecting how scripture is interpreted and how Fiqh is derived from scripture, for that would be against Quranic commandment(Surah 4:60, Surah 4:65), those that adopt the "Western" view of Islam are simply trying to forcibly read Western values into Islamic scripture, for they see the Western viewpoint as the best viewpoint and believe that the Islamic viewpoint should align with this viewpoint due to their beliefs, they may also be driven by an innate desire to make Islam seem appealing to a Western audience, this is why classical scholarship is much better than modern scholarship, for classical scholars don't have their worldview tainted by Western values or an innate desire to make Islam look appealing to a Western audience, they are focussed on trying to derived the most accurate understanding and from there deriving the Fiqh most accurate to what scripture says.
Besides the Quran actually doesn't allow for the Western interpretation. Many of these "Western" viewpoints rely on purposely ignoring parts of scripture, relying on false Hadiths or straight up twisting the Arabic.
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 The Western viewpoint on Islam is just putting lipstick on a pig
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 nmko
@@j.mtherandomguy8701 Perfectly described. Thank you for this comment.
Regarding the affiliation with an extremist group, I would be surprised if he were not under some sort of monitoring.
33:00 Not Zoroastrianism. The only rules are "Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds" AKA, there is room for unbelievers in heaven.
You mean like incest between mother and son?
This was an exceptionally well made video. Dissecting a long video by croping only the most important bits and preparing a script. Very nice. I appreciate you for valuing my time.
👏🙂
Great video as always Aladdin
Are you Ex Muslim?
@@mental9453 yup
24:55 Haqiqatjou isn't a convert. Sadly, the dude is born from Iranian parents, and the fact that he's originally from where I'm from pains me to the core
Ah he's iranian??? Then was he born shia??
@@mkwke215 yeah, there's an interview of him talking about how and why he left shia and became sunni
@@yellowman9721 I didn't find your comment relevant to neither my comment nor the video
Yeah it’s really embarrassing to an Iranian heritage.
Why women should not go to school? So they are unable to leave an oppressive environment and claim their rights.
However, having equals in a relationship means you have a teammate to support you when are struggling.
As she pointed Hindu faith. The sacred scriptures of Hinduism vedas were also compiled by women. Women were mantradrashtas. Even the goddess of learning, music , art is saraswati and goddess of veda is gayatri. Even the supreme being in some sects of Hinduism is feminine. I think she doesn't even know what are Upanishads. Upanishads are hindu philosophical litrature. Just like greek philosophical works of Aristotle, Pythagoras, Archimedes etc.
She talked about some University founded by muslim. What did the islamic invaders did when the entered India? They destroyed temples. They burnt Buddhist universities. Students from china, japan used to come and study topics like metallurgy, astronomy, medicine, litrature etc. They burnt Buddhist / hindu libraries. Those books were manuscripts. Islam destroyed the knowledge which we can never recover.
If there is an ideological problem with Islam just blame Christians, jews, hindus and others.
hinduism isnt monolithic, many beliefs and trditions are pole opposite but still called hinduism today. the dogmas and traditions she was talking about are patriarchal obviously just like any mainstream traditional system. but her tactic was to compare daniel version of muhammadism to upanishad was silly also displays her ideas and bigotry.
@@whydontyoustfu yes. she was talking about Upanishads, thats where i found it silly. If she had blamed smrutis i would have agreed to some extent. Becouse smrutis are somewhat patriarchal and were even fabricated.
But shrutis are neutral. In shrutis even women wore yajnopaveetam. Some parts of shrutis were composed by women. Now shrutis have become more of men's job becouse later people prohibited yajnopaveetam for women.
Even there are so many matriarchal things in smruti and shriti.
Hinduism doesn't have one a book or prophet. But has bunch of books. Literally its like a library. 4 vedas, 108 Upanishads, aranyakas, puranas, upa puranas, dharma Shastras (parashara smruti, manusruti etc), geetas, agama shastras, tantric shastras, natya Shastra and so many. One can never master all the knowledge of Hinduism in a lifetime.
Daniel is another level in patriarchy. Like literally she is blaming Upanishads for his ignorance.
@@whydontyoustfu Of course, the truth is not exclusive. "God" cannot be put into a box.
UA-cam giving ur videos islamic ads makes me giggle lol
Let those ads for Muslim mosques and charities play to the end. I recommend that you even click through to their website but not donate. You can turn off the volume.
Your channel has been extremely eye opening.
All my best to you all while you understand your path through life
2:55 its weird how desensitized i have been made to people questioning these things that my friends who have never been muslim would be extremely confused to the point of thinking it might be satire
Clown vs Clown
Daniel seems to enjoy harsh societal control mechanisms. I recently watched a good youtuber's video sub-clip on slut-shaming and how he thinks game theory really brings it's utility to light. Considering the direction modern "counter culture" is headed, Islam doesn't seem too far off.
Where the hell is justice ⚖in 🌙pathetic 1400 of lies and male dominance💯
Her talking about the Upanishads when she has no idea what they say lolol.
Great video really shows how much you understand people and Islam. All love and support
Even if we grant them the benefit of the doubt and assume woman empowerment does in fact undermine collective values, doesnt the integrity of these values ultimately rest upon the personal autonomy of the individual? Since the individual is the carrier of these ideals it seems to me that divesting them of their autonomy destabilizes collective values more than the granting them the freedom of choice. True morality presupposes the fact that the individual always chooses right from wrong out of his own volition.
I just watched the debate and I'm honestly schocked at how regressive Haqiqatjou is.
i feel so sorry for you
@@DinfarManshad Why?
@@svensvenforkedbeard170 i have no idea. I think I commented that when I was tired af
I think Daniel would more be a “Muslim un-apologist” than an apologist because he is actually honest about the controversial and uncomfortable beliefs in Islam that apologists normally sugarcoat or dance around. Since you were not on either side of the debate, I knew I could expect a fair analysis which you have provided. I did watch the debate and it look like he won and she rage quit. And afterwards, Daniel’s wife did a video on his channel about her agreeing with him on that Muslim women should not go to college.
Danial Haqiqatjou not only makes me hate Islam so much but also want to disassociate me with everything that has to do with my
islamic culture and country.
islam is a religion of balance. but people like him are the ones that want it one sided only. i would say ignore them.
@@anniewaraich6312Islam is a religion of doom and backwardness.
Loved this video, as usual! Thanks! :)
Omg this is so ridiculous they're both so ridiculous 😭😭
OMG they have pathetic BELIEFS; and even they know nothing beyond Islam..
Brilliant analysis. I 'follow' Daniel for quite a while already and quite obviously he is a fascist in religious disguise.
The only good thing about him is that he is brutally honest, with emphasis on "brutally".
As you rightly analyze, she (as many other Muslim women) is in trouble. You can bend and twist the Quran as much as you want, you just can't fit it to reason and modern moral understanding.
great video aladdin
Love your vids, ideas, comments, wit, sarcasm ... and voice and eyes!
She is like a Don Quijote but with the difference not having realized yet what she is fighting.
I will rejoice when Malala Yousafzai Burns her head scarf and says that Islam caused her attempted assassination.
This poor woman wants to make islam work. Just become an apostate, you'll be great
She seems to be suffering from Stockhol Syndrome
Great vid. Absolute joy to watch
The pitch at the end was on point.
My favorite part of this is today's sponsor...priceless!
Why do they keep bringing up the Hindus? Lmao I saw another video where a girl was giving her criticism of Islam but nothing about her indicated she was a Hindu yet the top comment was " omg the Lindus have to keep mentioning us hahaha "
They even kept saying Lindu in the thread as if Hindu is some word they are scared of. Ironically they are the ones who keep mentioning other religious groups.
I feel bad for anyone who listens to Daniel. Bro has 1 brain cell.
You know it would be pretty galaxy brained if he kept being this smug and cruelly honest about islam just to further spread apostasy
Sajid Lipham made a good video on this and some Muslims called Daniel out for his mistakes in the comment
Finally Truth
In hinduism there is separate sect for shakta people can follow both shiva and shakti.
Shakti is the female counterpart its not that popular but Godess worship is common.
I am not hindu but i know few things about it. The muslim lady in the debate has half knowledge.
Ex-Muslim here, I never understood why Muslims are so busy with the relationship between woman and man and sex!
You’re my first subscribe smash! Your channel is amazing. You’re funny too
daniel in every debate : I've won but at what cost :(
( because saying he'd kill his son if he was gay doesn't really attract non-muslims )
The title made me laugh. It reminds me of a Grumpy cat meme with her watching a football match and saying "I hope both teams lose." Surprisingly, in some rare instances like these apologist debates, this is actually possible.
Best comment ever!
Fantastic analysis
Every time I hear "prefer virgins" I understand the speaker to mean "I'm sexually inept or insecure and would feel self-conscious with a sexual partner who had any experience."
To all who dont know abt feminism in Hinduism, google navratri... pls
People like this Daniel Haqiqatou guy are doing a great job for atheism😂
Sura Al Qasas clearly depicts the social interactions of the daughters of Prophet Shuaib and Prophet Musa rearing sheep clearly goes against Daniel's understanding of Islam
Did you see daniels video about the alsana school for wives? LOL
Greetings from Croatia. I have been following you for the past two weeks and got sucked in. I don't know why, but it's very interesting to me to hear this stuff about Islam comming from muslims. Islam sounds like, a religion that is an exception.
Much love and support for your channel, and for you personaly. Your content is very thought out, but it is clear this stuff still bothers you and that it was a very bad trip being on the inside.
God bless you, for whatever it means to you.
Im a pagan wiccan but also kinda agnostic bc I don't know exactly what higher power is but I make sense of it's energy by seeing it as a god and goddess , two energies that make one. But my religion doesn't have many morals that it puts on people besides not to harm others so I don't think it's a bad religion... N I don't try to convert anyone n I question everything I don't have blind faith.. well I guess to an extent on some things I do but not in a toxic way . It helps me with a lot of my grief from losing my mom when I was 20 n my bf as well and it doesn't hurt anyone so it bothers me when some atheists mock anyone who believes in a higher power
Sounds like Hinduism for me
@@mental9453 Nowhere did they mention Hindu gods/goddesses
Anyone know why she kept bringing Hindu?
well if she cant comprehend leaving islam, she has to shift the blame somewhere else or the cognitive dissonance wont let her sleep.
Everything bad in Islam is blamed on the local culture, Hindu texts, Jews, Mossad, etc.
Projection
There's something I like about Aladdin that I like but can't put my finger on. Good job, mate. Keep doing what're doing.
Ex-Muslim here, BTW.
Great work as usual !
Good video
However at around 2:30 it seems you changed it from "should they" to "should they be allowed" which are not the same thing.
But again, good video
Amazing video!
Why do muslim not see that Islam is all about belittling women
19:54 Didn't want to be the "scripture police" here, but have to since the fingers are pointed towards my community now, as a person who has read the 18 major Upanishads, there's nowhere in the texts where it's written that we have to keep our women in constraints in their "fertile period", we infact pray to goddesses and I myself treat any and every women as goddess incarnate, most hindus do, as for the burning women with the husband's corpse, it started because of islamic rule Because they invaded the country and Muslims being muslim would make those widows into sex slaves so the women chose go rather give their bodies in fire than to be violated, and then after time and time, due to islamic rule, it became a ritual
The sanad (chain of narrations in the hadis) which mention the name Aisha is the proof that the companions of the Prophet learns directly from Aisha through decent social interactions, thus showing that Muslimah should go to college
Well Daniel can simply argue that it is an exception and the fact that barely any women narrate Hadith show that women are weaker in intelligence and are therefore not suitable for education.
He can even back it up with narrations such as Bukhari 304 and then reinforce it with Ibn Qayyim(Student of Ibn Tayymiyah)'s commentary on it in his work Illam al-Muwaqqin an Rabb Al Alamin 2/114.
Although to he fair, there is indeed no scriptural evidence to forbid or promote the education of women so it is really up to the religious leader.
However, one would have to consider, given the status of women in Fiqh, the restrictions placed upon them and their designation in the household it is really hard to justify education for them, especially higher education for they cannot really derive much utility from it under an Islamic State.
Also it is Isnaad not Sanad.
No, Narrations by Aisha are from close relatives of her, few of them are exception
Thank you 🙏
14:15 had me rolling on the floor 😂😂😂😂😂
I watched the debate, it was a great debate, she did very well in the debate, Daniel and all extremist are closer to Islam than the modernist
Really feel sorry for her. She is living in a mental prison.
When women are empowered they are most likely to have the freedom to complain/ express their sadness in the first place. So the statement " women are now unhappier than ever" is likely untrue, we are just starting to take their opinions and mental health seriously.
To demonstrate what I mean:
Do you think a woman who lives as Daniel wishes has the right to complain about her status, her situation or her husband? The archetype of the complaining woman is already demonized in Islam so why should she think she has the right to be bothered when she's only fullfilling her "god given role".
i hope she became an atheist or at least started to question the religion after this conversation. the cognitive dissonance is astounding. i’ll never get women defending religion especially abrahamic religions. she seems to be really in denial about the nature of the religion because it’s so tied up with who she feels she is as a person
People willingly hurting others and relishing in malice. There is a word for that. And it's not just in Islam.
I feel so sorry for her. I'm so glad I didn't grow up as a muslim
Pretty sure Haqiqatjou is a double agent. 😅
well well well . Daniel own goal haqiqatjou.
If stuff that I say would happen, I would say "don't feel guilty that people support you monetarily" because you shouldn't. But I would also say "Let Matt Dillahunty present the best evidence for any god or gods which has no natural explaination".
This dude (Daniel H.) is sick 🤢🤮, I am ashamed that I am somehow related to him 😔😥