LGR - Dragon's Lair - DOS PC Game Review
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- Опубліковано 5 сер 2010
- Don Bluth's "Dragon's Lair" is awesome. But the PC port from 1989? It leaves a bit to be desired. Overprotective copy protection, repetition, odd controls, repetition, bugs and repetition.
Dragons Lair for MS-DOS EGA PCs
At least it's more playable than that NES port. - Розваги
Quick-time events, the game. "Before" they were a thing.
Hey! My thinks that I thought! Give them back. I don't have many of those anymore.
@CuntTornado You're quite welcome!
And I've gotta say, that's one memorable username you have there.
"If you don't know what you're doing, you die."
The 80s gaming mantra.
Works nicely as a Souls mantra now. :3
And sometimes even when you do know, you still die
I remember when a friend of mine got a EGA card & also bought this game to show off its enhanced graphics... the animations, the colors, it was beautiful.... i was sooo jealous. And then we tried to actually play the thing.
I played this thing in the arcade back in the day. It was the quickest way to waste $1.
As a kid, this would have gone over my head. I would have assumed it was some space-age technology and you controlled the character directly.
Supposedly the terrible computer ports of Dragon's Lair are what inspired the guy(yes 1 guy) who created Another World (aka Out of this world) as he thought he could make an interactive movie than fit on one disk, rather than 15.
Sic's Space Éric Chahi said this? Got any source?
I would love to read more about it. :)
Phreak, I demand to know why you only have 5 views in one hour! You have more talent than most of youtube!
When I see your reviews show up in my subscriptions on the front page I get really excited. Love your videos, man! Excellent review.
I also enjoy his videos.
Sounds like a decent deal to me! Especially if it comes with the CPU.
You should revisit this review.
First arcade game i ever paid more than a quarter to play...
I wrote you 7 years ago about this video. I am rewatching it again while working on a funny cartoon. thank you again for making this review!!!!!!
Thanks for the review. Recently started to watch your videos and love them all, from the game reviews to the hardware/pc reviews, thanks again for the work.
You always seem to know what games to review to catch my attention, not to mention the best theme song out of any internet reviewer (though spoony's is pretty good!) Keep up the good work
The Game Boy Color port of Dragon's Lair developed by Capcom was pretty cool. It recreated much of the arcade version's original animation on the GBC screen, which led me to think that these older ports could have pulled off a proper conversion... but I guess in 2000, hindsight is 20/20. :P
@indignantatheist Awesome, I'm truly glad to hear I can invoke that kind of enthusiasm! Thanks for watching!
@jyatzy123 ... WHAT? OH NO. I knew I shouldn't have made this video, now everyone knows! Guess that's what I get for having a hobby.
...Nutsack of a game.
Clint, you crack me up dude, lol.
Thanks for always being awesome:)
@SCSNSE Thanks! It's from an Atari 800XL, the name of the song is "Vaxeen 4U" in case you wanna look it up!
The early 2000 digital camera recording makes the laser disk look high tech.
Maybe it's time for a re-do one of these days huh?
@LGR
@TheAbridgedGamer Thanks. I use Adobe Premiere CS4.
"Dragon's Lair. Dragon's Lair never changes."
Awkward nutsack of a game....best one liner ever
Lazy Game Reviews,
I saw your video when I was 11 in 2013.
@SPeacock That Dragon's Lair HD version of the game on Blu-Ray already came out, in 2007.
"Merit Software"...
I think that sums it up all.
WOW! Thanks for showing this - it's amazing what folks were prepared to do to play DL.
I played it on release in the Arcades and had no clue what to do, hence a Game Over screen without realising the game had started!!
It wasn't a cheap game to play either ...
I thought it was an appalling game and am still conflicted by it ...
Sure the animation is glorious, it's innovative but the GP?
Not great imo ..
I still try/play it sometimes and yesss i'm still terrible at it.
I also play FMV games here and there - such an interesting, yet odd genere.
The amount of bad takes and spin off's on Dragon's Lair is amazing ..
Was/has there been any good ones before home thchnology caught up and allowed close versions be played??
I'd buy this for the shelf
if i found it - 13 floppies for 10 repeating screens lol.
🙋🏻♂️
@stringanime Oh yeah, I can imagine it would still have been rad to have had this on the PC back when it was new, because compared to many other ports of the time it's not half bad. But it's pretty lackluster, even then.
minor issue: Laserdisc was an ANALOG system
SkyCharger001 Yup I misspoke. All analog at first, then later had analog video and digital sound!
+Lazy Game Reviews I came to the comments to say exactly this but then you guys got everything right before I could play all smartass-know-it-all. Not cool!
Really!? And there went my assumption that they were just big-ass CDs.
@yonderTheGreat Wrong. It was still read with a lazer, but the info wasn't in binary format.
@@DragonNexus Yep! The information was encoded as pits in the disc surface, read with a laser like a CD, but the pits and lands were of continuously varying lengths encoding an analog video signal. Utterly weird from a modern perspective.
"Dirk on dragon action"
"Awkward nutsack of a game"
@bteeuwen If it weren't on the Wii with its uncomfortable controller & fuzzy SD video output I'd likely agree! The best version I've seen thus far is the Blu-Ray collection. Works great on a PS3.
@atrainhxdotcom You're quite welcome, I appreciate the man-love!
nice review Clint!
@Lachlant1984 This was played on a low-end 386SX machine.
I uncovered a glitch one time in this version where I got to the final level at the start of the game.
"Awkward Nutsack" would be a great band name XD.
We had a version of Dragon's Lair for Mac. It didn't have the copy protection so that wasnt an issue. Which was "good" I suppose. We lost the manual. XD Imagine trying to figure this game out without the internet, and with no manual. We didn't get very far.
@wakkyvideogroup Oh yeah, there were copy protection schemes for all home computers back then, but this one takes that cake as far as most confusing and annoying text codes.
It looks like you're getting close to your 100th review. I wish I had at least some of those classic games (although maybe not this one) the only "classic" thing I have is an unopened King's Quest Collection Series and that was my mom's because she had a PCjr and wanted to play Kings Quest on the newer computer.
Really interesting version! I've only played the NES and original arcade versions. This one was really interesting. Man, that copy protection though.... holy cow.
Love that game..and I even did finish the game..used many quarters at the local 7-11 when it came out in the 80s
@Costerguy1234556 The Win95 and 98 era brought about far better support for FMV in games, and with it came what I consider to be the first DL port for PC that was totally worth playing (1999 release by Digital Leisure).
This one at least HAS the original gameplay; every other 8/16 bit adaptation is a completely different _game_ with completely different mechanics and gameplay. That being said, I personally don't count the chain of quicktime events that make up the original arcade a "game", and getting my hands on an emulated version of the original was one of the biggest disappointments of my life, but I digress. Bottom line: this conversion at least has got that _right_ to call itself "Dragon's Lair" in contrast to every other home computer version.
Dude, yes! Hook up 13 floppy drives and play it from there!
I remember playing this game at my uncle's house and I remember being excited about the amazing graphics it had. I was thinking to myself that future of gaming is here where character looks like a real character lol. It was amazing for EVGA and I am privilege to experience what it's like to feel excited about it because kids today will never understand it.
Oh shut up.
I agree, he needs to shut up. Unlike when I was a kid, today's kids would understand quick time events when they see them. And they would recognize that making a game out of them and nothing but them, isn't much of a game at all!
I used to play this game all the time when I was a little kid. We had a copy on 3 1/2 floppies of which there were only 4. I don't think I ever beat it, but I was really little and likely didn't have the attention span or skil.
did they have to redo the animation for this port? Cus that would be pretty impressive if they did.
Animated Freak looks like they “traced” the original animation pixel by pixel, which is why it rather jiggles at times (for example when the feet are planted on the ground)
LOL So many ports of this......
Great review as always.
"Geeze, Dirk, I know this sucks, but drugs Aren't the answer."
Awesome.
@majora1993 Agreed, at least they TRIED to make it truthful to the original. It's too bad the PC they meant it to run on was nowhere near capable.
remember seeing ths for the first time in the arcades. Wow talk about jaw dropping!
love the intro
Unrecognised chunk found!
Great review! Didn't see it comming when you said "13 floppy drives" wow and the coding sheet??? It that even legal? I don't think I would find myself buying this game in.. quite a while.. But otherwise, great review! I always look forward to your videos every week ; )
I remember this on the Amiga. So frustrating with it's trial and error method (back in the day before internet, to find a walkthrough). I revisited it recently with an emulator on PC, just so I could finish it. Some of the levels are hard to get through, even when you know the key combination.
Celebration of 30 years of Dragon's Lair!
Pedant here. Laserdisc isn't digital. It's analogue composite video
Correct. It's analog video encoding using FM modulation (like VHS) but with lands and pits acting as the PWM for the signal.
This reminds me of that port to the gameboy color... Thats an interesting game btw.
Love this video like all of your others. I'm too young to know for sure (only 18), but what is your intro song made on, a C64 perhaps?
I remember being so excited about finally Having Dragon's Lair at home on my PC. Then after unpacking 13 Large Floppies. It took my brother and I Forever to get passed the Title Screen Bridge and Bats.....Big Let down, but exciting at the time.
I got this on Windows 95 when it came out, my cousin actually managed to beat it, it was the full version though with all the right sounds and colors lol. It took her 3 days of constant playing to beat it.
I loved rescuing daphne only game i played on dos was elders scrolls 1 and 2 so different and difficult
Laserdiscs are actually analog, not digital. The arcade games took advantage of their seek capabilities.
I believe laserdiscs were analog not digital but can be accessed way more faster than a video cassette which allows the game to run smoothly, the same with American Laser Games titles!
I love the SEGA CD version. Do they ever made Space Ace for DOS PC as well?
Indeed the CDi had some great games (imo), Burn:Cycle, Dragons Lair, Defender of the Crown, Escape from Cyber City, Flashback: The Quest for Identity, Lost Eden, Inca, Space Ace, The 7th Guest.
I had what I think is the same version, it was 13ish floppies but didn't have copy protection. The computer I had at the time was below specification (I think 384k ram or something) and I would try to run it anyway. It would start and take about 30 minutes to load the first area but I didn't know how to play (and didn't have the manuals) so I would die every time, and 30 minutes is a long time to wait for loading to try again.
WAY better than the nes version
craplickerlickit1234 that's not exactly saying much.
I have the DOS CD-ROM version, of which I never could get working right. I don't have the manual for it, but if I remember, it had the LaserDisc video encoded on it, and of course needed VGA. If I can find it, I'd like to donate it if you don't have it.
It's a damn shame that Eric Chahi hadn't gotten behind this port.
Did you know that his reason for creating Another World in vectors was partially influenced by these terrible ports? He wanted to see if it actually would have been possible for them to recreate the video sequences by tracing and converting them to take up much less memory, and have a similar quality to the arcade version.
As for DOS sideshows? I love 'em! A few of the stranger ones have even been fun! :D
I just realized.
This game was built on QTE.
I'm way behind the times here, but I _just_ noticed how much Dirk resembles the Avatar from Dungeon Keeper.
Awful game; great review.
Thanks for this, Phreak. Ya know, this is why I love the internet: anyone can reach a global audience from their own bedroom and occasionally it sprouts a real gem - someone who has genuine talent and personality.
Phreak, I think I might love you, man. I mean love in the rugged, back-slapping, beer-drinking sense, naturally, but it's love all the same. keep it up, man. Really entertaining, informative stuff.
this game made me angry. and I haven't ever played it
I played this back in the day on my Amiga with about 5 disks...it was a swap fest, yet we never complained.
I got a review request or at least a let's play request. You should play Outlaws from Lucasarts, released in 1997. It was one of the first if not the first fps game in a wild west setting. I am sure you are familiar with it. Thank you in advance, i really enjoy your videos.
I agree that this arcade classic game had several ported versions that weren't all good. The Atari 2600 version was scary bad but then again...it was the 2600. The c64 version was all that great neither. The graphic for the time were ok but the playability just wasn't there. The Sega CD version was actually good. Currently , I own a Don Bluth limited edition PC dvd rom set of both Drangon's Lair, Space Ace and Dragon's Lair 2. From my experience, these are the best versions for PC available.
is the castle really purple in this? Im hoping its just my phone having a problem i mean castles aren't purple. Also are there any versions of dragons lair for modern systems that are any good?
At least it was better than the C64 port, or the abomination on the NES I had as a kid. The best version I have found so far was a DVD playable version.
I adore the Coleco Adam version, which seems to be the most unlike the original, like they didn’t even try to emulate the look of the original.
For anyone, even.
There's like several versions of PC Dragon's Lair. It's probably the only game that kept Readysoft afloat.
I have this version!
As you did say, it was one of a kind for its time for its genre. I remember this game being very fun, so it's not that it sucks, it just sucks for today's standards.
@KrissWalterKovacs Because Doom is so freaking awesome it MUST be everywhere.
@phreakindee It left me looking at my SEGA MAster system thinking, why can't SEGA make this, I know it can! I wonder if the SEGA Master system could overlay animated Cels that big.
Were those 360k diskettes?
I always loved the ADAM computer version. Way better than the NES one
This game is awsome D:
the best home port of this is the newest wii port, features both dragons lairs and space ace and is the nicest version ive seen to date.,
asides from actually using daphene emulator with disc images
Hey I'm curious when where they finally able to make a port of this to PC? The 3.1 era or the Windows 95 era?
I had the Gameboy Abomination
You want to know who would copy all 13 floppy's, my Dad that's who. Ok so I just got my first five and one quarter inch floppy drive and dug out copies of the dragons lair disks 1,6,7,8,9,10,11,12 and 13 however 2,3,4 and 5 are still missing.(on a side note I found my a copy of PC Worlds Power Base Feb.13,1990)
Dragon Lair must have been really popular when it came out.
did anyone make a spreadsheet of the copy protection?
Ah, the times when legitimate customers were actually punished by not using the cracked version.
This looks like a good effort for the day, but the lack of sound and the mirrored scenes seems to ruin it, amongst other things, haha.
Good thing I have the DVD version.
times have changed
Even though this version is not that great, its impressive they even tried to port the game at all to a platform where almost all of its software came on floppies
There's been a recent video from MVG on the Amiga version which is what this PC version seems to be based off of and the Amiga version was even more impressive, even having the animation being streamed directly off the floppies. I'm surprised this version only goes up to EGA graphics considering that VGA has been around since 1987, two years before this port came out