The END for concept artists? Will AI replace CONCEPT ARTISTS?
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Every few years, new tools come along that make art easier to create. Lately there's been a lot of talk about AI, and artificial intelligence. Will Artificial Intelligence replace Concept Artists? If you don't know what concept artists do, or if you don't know the difference between concept art and illustration, you may think that you will never need to learn to draw or understand fundamentals of art. You may think that a computer will be able to do anything that is hard or difficult. But most of the time, this is a mental trick that we play with ourselves to talk ourselves out of personal mastery. Be careful to not overlook your own value as a creative and unique person. You have more to offer than just ideas and everything that AI is doing in art has already been done, and there continues to be a need for those who have fundamental knowledge of the craft. #artificialintelligence #conceptart #aiart
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Fortnite (Environment concept art)
Overwatch (Environment concept art + Sprays artwork)
League of Legends (Character design + Environment concept art, UI + Icons)
Diablo 3 (Character design + Environment concept art)
Hearthstone (Illustration)
Burning Crusade(Character design + Environment concept art)
Wrath of the Lich King (Character design + Environment concept art)
Indivisible (Environment concept art)
Final Fight Streetwise (Voice Acting + Character Design + World Design + Cutscene Direction + Co writer on script)
He Man GBA (Pixel Art)
Terminator 3 GBA (Art Direction + Pixel Art)
CannonBallers (Character + World design)
Ikeda: The Scrap Hunter (Programming + Art + Design)
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World Of Twilight Monk Vol 1 (2019) Art Book
The Man and the Moonken (2019) - Illustrated Novella
The Beast of Tuksa (2018) - Illustrated Novella
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Nova Colony (2009) - 1 Graphic Novel
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As Hayao Miyazaki said about AI replacing animators, "I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself."
As hopeful as that sounds opinions change when money is involved i think it willreplace large teams of concept artist when the can grab a pre render from an ai and fix the mistakes themselves
Well, think about it, every artistic decision is an influence of thousands of other works. And AI is good to create something out of thousands or millions of other works based on a specific concept.
Do you think Renaissance was beautiful? Well, that was just stylised Greek and Roman art.
As good as he is, he's also a big fat narcissist, and he's making the same mistake as most people, thinking they're irreplaceable little snowflakes
Auto sufficient AI replacing all of our jobs is not the end, it's just the beginning
@@Capt.SeaShanty it's actually the other way around, as AI will generate more and more renders, you'll need more and more artists to fix them.
Because let's be honest here for a second, thinking an executive is going to open photoshop to fix a weird looking eye on every output, that's naïve at best
i awwed and cried
I'm gonna be honest, I'm actively hoping the technology for generating art doesn't get any more advanced than right now. Unlike basketball or playing the guitar, painting isn't really a process or performance. It's meant to generate a result (or a product, if you will). That's a pretty big difference
Art's like the one job no one takes "just to pay the bill." I wouldn't want people to be devalued in that field. ):
In any case, I'll keep at it. If I let my spirit get broken by something as trivial as technological progress or anxiety over AI, I've failed as an artist.
The spirit is strong with this one:) keep at it! Art will forever be the one thing that can unite people because we can genuinely feel emotions and I hope it will further continue to reflect in your work
@@zayndesign 🤜🤛
Art forever!
Well it's gonna happen, but humans will just move to find things produced with a more rigorous process more impressive. People already appreciate the work that goes into real painting over a drawing (because you dont have an eraser), real drawing over digital, etc. For concept art which is almost entirely about efficiently making a practical product, ai will most definitely take a role so don't actively hope away something away and learn sooner than later, rather than suddenly finding yourself in a time where such a tool becomes a pre-requisite and you spent the entire time of its rise ignoring it ignoring rather than trying to keep pace.
well thats a stupid hope. because tech gets more advanced that litterally what it does, of course you dont have to participate, there are people that dont even know that digital art exists these people bore me to death
yes it is about the process
art is not the one job people take to pay the bill, chess players, streamers athletes musicians, programmers writers, managers, mathematicians these are all extremely creative proffessions, the idea that making pictures is the only creative proffession is complete nonsense
technological progress is not trivial
Yes you should keep at it, creative expression, alongside love and compassion is the most important thing in existence
@@NCDENZEL It's a hope, not a belief founded in any sort of reason. Not saying that's what I think will happen.
I did not say art is the only creative profession. I don't know how you got that out of the comment.
Technological progress is not trivial. But sometimes, just sometimes, I wish it would be.
Art was meant to be created by the mind. I totally agree. The act of creating art is its main purpose. The learning process is inspiring and fun. Will AI replace enjoyment too?
What do you mean that art was "meant" to be created by the mind. I'd say the main purpose of art is to represent a concept through a visual medium. Of course the process itself can create enjoyment and even with AI, I highly doubt humans will stop creating for fun.
@@amentrison2794 art imitate life, robot have no life
@@obiwanian2774 lol I don't know if you're joking or not because there are genuinely some artsy people who make points like that
@Gravega typing words and letting circuits generate a mash of images is the lazy approach to art. All art up to this point, regardless of the medium, was the result of many decisions made in the mind, not by a computer. The user of AI to generate art is not an artist.
@Gravega you're talking about requesting art, which is what a client does. Putting paint on paper in a way which creates impressive art is magnitudes of times harder than typing a sentence in. The AI can just generate the sentences which are more likely to generate pleasing images - people are not required.
I've never experienced real depression, and I'm just a year and away from exiting school and going into collage, but I found out about the whole AI thing going on and have been depressed ever since, (I'd still been drawing and I was improving to the point where people actually marvel at me like I did something magnificent) started frantically searching for an answer, something to tell me I'm not wasting my time. I even started setting goals of getting recognized by AI artists as a good artist, as if they'd give a damn. I won't give up not yet, I'll do everything in my power to be a good artist even if it's just a hobby
Don't worry. Sure AI maybe get better but
It is human that could make difference. If you use AI art as a base line or reference and you already have the skills and experience of painting, it will be a great tool to brainstorm or get idea from. Sure there will be people who use AI and selling it as their art without lifting finger but it can also be done by anyone. If it can be done by anyone, it will lose it's value. Beside, using AI from start to finish is no fun. Art is about journey and learning yourself and expressing yourself. AI alone doesn't have soul. I've seen AI paintings and sure they might paint it more beautiful that me but it always lacks something, a story, artist's intention or expression of soul. Keep learning to paint because just like people value tradition art more than digital art generally, there will be people who will value painting by human instead of AI. And use AI to your advantage with your knowledge and skills of painting where it needs and don't use it when it requires your full dedication of your own skills.
I have exactly the same thing! I am months away from graduating and this AI art thing has sent me down a depressive spiral.
You just wanted to impress others and fill your ego. Now you lost your power. I don't have any pity for you.
Art was supposed to be made as an good thing. It was always about the process and art expression. Not the result or impressing others. People who never understood this were never real artists, but talented kids.
People who enjoy doing art will never give up it.
@@PetyrC90 ps. saying someone isn't an artist all because they just want to live up to their hero's legendary status as a well known artist, is shameful to say the least
@@PetyrC90 ps. ps. READ THE LAST WORDS OF THE FIRST ONE, I did say I wasn't going to give up
AI might be able to replace any job out there; but just cause it can doesn’t mean it should. Where would the humanity be in picking up a coffee in the morning? Where would the humanity be in the creation of art or music or architecture? If AI replaced everything we do, the world would be soulless and that scares me.
lol we're making ourselves obsolete
It's only replacing your place in capitalism and not your artistic expression.
Even more reason why we need advocate for ubi. With one people's livelihoods wouldn't be at risk and they can do what they love even if ai can do it better and not have to worry. All we would need to do is tax the companies that are using ai instead of humans and do a vat tax and then we could fund a ubi. Both would be super easy to do.
Welp once again America and our capitalism will have to defend your freedom. It sounds like you commies will side with the bots...
Humanity is being very foolish. We are attempting to create something with knowledge and skill to solve all any problem. We seek to give this great problem solver power over everything. We are trying to making a god and intending to keep it as a slave.
EDIT: After some discussion I'm just editing my original comment to say that I am blown away by the discussion in this thread. Not for the topics discussed but just in the mutual respect we are showing each other. It is rare in UA-cam to have these types of discussions without someone getting offended or throwing cuss words around. ☺
Just getting back into art after building a career as a game programmer so I can solo dev my games. I don't care if Ai is going to dominate the industry. I'll keep doing what makes me happy. AI will be able to draw a specific character, in a specific pose etc etc pretty soon but who cares. You'll see a boom in super generic looking and feeling games that people will get tired of. 10 years from now, an AI generated game will be a dirty word. It will simply increase the value of art by humans, storytelling by humans. This is what I believe with AI in general, even with robots. It'll only serve to make humanity shine brighter than ever. Good talk as always, I'm off to learn Nomad Sculpt on iPad Pro! Peace!
Im really looking forward to being able tell apart Ai art from human art with just a glance. Just like when you see shadows in 2d animation behave in a certain way that makes you understand that the animated object is actually in made in 3d.
Its yo to us to stop AI. Just don't consume it and it will not stick.
I totally agree that you shouldn't stop doing art if it makes you happy. That being said, I think your idea of generic art might be a bit limited in the possibilities of what AI could accomplish.
Idk if you've heard of the library of Babel, but there's a similar analogy with images. Any type of digital art you could ever create or imagine is ultimately just code. If you imagine a 1080p resolution image with each pixel being assigned an RGB values from 0 to 255, individually varying each of the values creates a set containing all possible elements in that search space. The only difference then between a human and an AI is the algorithm that is used to locate an element in that search space that matches the desired prompt. The human may have a subjective experience of joy while travelling through that search space, but they're still fundamentally operating in the same search space that the AI is operating in. This search space doesn't just include one "generic" art format, it includes literally every art style that could be conceived.
@@gabrielWachong genuine question, but what reason is there to not consume AI art.
@@amentrison2794 as a programmer with about 10 years professional experience I know exactly, what AI will be able to accomplish with art. I don't mean "generic" in terms of limited to a single style or theme or even an emulation of a specific real world art medium (e.g. Yoshi's wooly world). I mean generic in that it will always lack something. I will say that what I originally said will probably only be a subset of games that are exclusively using AI generated assets (by that I mean pre prod and prod assets). Most games developed will include AI as part of their art pipeline and likely will just be used mostly at the very early pre prod stages and then possibly to generate final assets also (giving finished 2d turnarounds and getting a fully rigged and textured 3d model with optimised topology instantly). The in between stages would be human artists and art directors refining what the AI spits out, so in that way, we will still have games that still feel mostly human made.
I just know that there will come a time where there will be very easy to spot signs of AI used to generate game art/designs that we will become accustomed to and there will be a time where stating that a game, DOESN'T use AI at all in the game creation process, will be a selling point. It'll be interesting to see how it all unfolds.
I'm just afraid that people that have literally spend their lives improving their art will be overshadowed by some random AI. All the buzz you see on youtube markets AI art as: "Look: now you don't need the skill to make art" or "Make art without any effort whatsoever". It's instant gratification and I hate it. It's always been "you want to express yourself artistically, you'll have to put in the effort to do so". But now.. it's all within reach and I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or not.
On the other hand, in modern days almost everything can be made by machine and it's the handmade products that actually sell. People want exclusive items and AI generated images are all but exclusive. What I do like is the abstractness of AI art. Some give me straight up Salvador Dali vibes and I can imagine that a lot of artist are going to look at AI art for inspiration.
Its got potential but everything concerning AI gives me that uncanny valley feel.
You made a good point about handcrafted. You can buy a suit made in factory for really cheep, and it's functional. Or you can go and buy a suit from a tailor, that was crafted to fit only you, and feels like a second skin.
It's not a good thing! I already see it on some art communities - mainly surreal art because that is the easiest to do stunning low-effort images. And people already throw them out like candy. It sucks.
Once this image generators become so sophisticated that you can not tell the difference anymore, it will be over. They are easy to use. And many people believe it's "their" image because they threw a few words in.
Ai images will completely oversaturate the market for art. I do not see this ending good for artists which are already treated like garbage by some and often seen as "useless".
AI gives me a sense of a new category of art, one where long-loved artists have embraced a half-use of this tool.
@@CrniWuk Unfortunately, artists are either seen as untouchable gods or as an artist less good than the other for this reason, but even people like that have someone to oppose and discuss these ideas.
The tech is in its infancy and it's already mind blowing. I think the uncanny feeling is just a matter of time, and its progress is accelerating at an incredible rate. I do feel sorry for the number of people this will replace. I like to use it to visualise things that aren't made anywhere out there, also to make assets which I then stitch and edit into a complete work, which can also make up for it's current flaws.
I hear this message and I agree. Yes. People will always make art. Just as how they play chess. Play music. And do sports. Even though a machine could (probably) do all of that better and faster. However, Ai will be to our society what the steam engine and electricity was 200 years ago. Ai is not just a tool. It's the dawn of a new age. And it's happening right in front of us. The steam engine pretty much caused the whole industrial revolution. And with the mass use of electricity it changed society for ever. Suddenly with machines one person could do the job of 10 or 100 others. And it caused a lot of issues because the society at that time, was not ready for it. The rapid changes and shift pretty much meant the end of the agrarian society. People flocked en mass in to the citiese, labour became extremely cheap you had a whole new "class" of people with the so called working class. The effects of all this can be even seen up to this day. Whole new political systems formed because of the industrial revolution! The labour party, labour union all of this and more happend in that time.
So while yes, artists will always exist I believe artists will not become a profession anymore. If pretty much everyone can do with just a few words and a machine in seconds what artists do in hours? Then everyone will do it. A lot of people in the creative industry, will lose their jobs. And it's not just painters/concept artists. Musicians, writers, photographers. ALL(!) creatives will be hit. And it won't be just the creative industry it's just, interesting enough, the first one where it happens. Ai will in the future give drug prescriptions, grade essays, work for lawyers going trough legal papers any high frequent repetitive task can be automated.
So with all due respect, as much as I respect this opinion what we're seeing right now is not just like another tool. I see many make that argument but I feel they are not considering the fact that this, will happen in many industries. One has only to look at researchers and experts in that field which say, 1 in 2 jobs will be affected by Ai and there is potential to lower the workforce by up to 30 maybe even 40%. They somewhat disagree in the exact numbers and time frame. But they all agree. A lot of people will lose their jobs. And I do not see the potential for many new jobs taking over. And even if there would be, those jobs would be very sophisticated and require a skill set that many people are not familiar with. Being problem solvers and strategists, world builders and so on. Things Ai well can't do because it's a computer and not a human. What are we going to do with all those people? Let them starve? I doubt that it's going to be that easy for many to change professions or to adjust. It doesn't usually work like that because societies are complex and when people are feeling threatened and anxious they tend to go backwards - the good "old" days - rather than forward. So yeah. As fascinating as I think Ai is and as amazing as the results are I do not believe that it will lead at improvements in the short term, once it actually really starts to change more industries we we will see a lot more turmoil and stress.
In our current society with the economic model we have in place, which depends on consumerism and people having incomes trough jobs? Ai is like a nuclear bomb just waiting to detonate. And our society is not ready for it. And we have not even talked about the potential abuse of Ai!
nice comment
interesting comment
Finally, something less optimistic. I honestly like your cynical and realistic view of this because I'm tired of artists saying 'oh it's just a tool, it will never be that good', like no, it will be. I guarantee there is a dystopian future just waiting to happen where the wealthy few can manage, just gotta cope with it.
The only way this can be solved is if there are legal rules implemented to AI and a more ethical training data. But I doubt the developers even care, even at the place of altruism wanting people to make art without any skill, they forget that learning art itself is healthy and instant gratification is not, long-term. It doesn't stop me from learning art though, I'll still do it regardless.
I need a more pessimistic view of how AI is gonna affect art, even better with possible new solutions and ideas. I suspect most industry jobs are gonna change, there's gonna be job roles like 'AI prompt artist' or 'AI art refiner' if there's no legal action taken against AI for its training data
@@bigshroom4457 We have to wait and see what happens. I am a bit less cynical right now but that's because there is a genuine push against AI art by some people which realise how much of a low-effort that stuff really is.
And to your point about being anoyed by artists calling it "another tool", I absolutely share that sentient. I think a lot of artists still don't really realise yet what's happening.
AI image generation is a tool, yes. But what artists are missing here is that it's not a tool made for them. And it's meant to be a tool for non-artists. And that's the game changer here. Any other tool digital or not, was always an extension of artistic skill and expression. Even if photoshop for example made it faster and easier it still required creative input from the user. It required an artist. You can't just start photoshop, throw images in to it and create a master peace out of nothing. It requires experience, knowledge and skill.
AI image generation? Just type a prompt. And even here you don't even have to come up with your own. Just use those from others. Over time the algorithm will also learn what prompt works the "best" creating a lot of likes so I assume even that will become less of a problem and more automated in the future. Making it easier and easier to use. Because that's the whole idea behind it. That EVERYONE(!) can use it and create stunning results.
So yeah. I fear that we will see a lot of creative bancruptcy in the future.
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I love the part around 11:15 where you were talking about how you'd like the tools to enhance the artwork while still having that handcrafted touch, and then in the work you were creating, at the same moment, you selected, copied and pasted the diamonds you were working on in the arch so they would be more simesteric. It's a coincedence but such a good example of how these digital tools today are affecting the productivity of artists, while keeping the work. I love that!!
I still do book covers for my clinet in a traditional /digital way,I draw and ink then scan it,clean it and color it digitally
Advances in AI are impressive, of course, but the higher the complexity, the lower the chance it will "replace" a person. Take chat bots for instance - if you have a very simple issue, you don't mind at all that it's a chatbot that delivers you the simple solution. However, the more complex the issue that doesn't get immediately solved, the more frustrated you get with the chatbot and demand a real person to deal with this, even if the person might not be that much more helpful. How many times you've not had an issue and felt annoyed that the company you want to reach has just slapped on an answering machine or chatbot instead of hiring actual people? It immediately feels like they don't value you or your business at all. And this is just for something simple that an AI technically is best suited for, a knowledge bank search and knowledge delivery. If an AI cannot truly replace a person in this sphere, why would it replace it in a creative field?
I do see something else in this conversation, in this insistence that AI will absolutely 100% replace artists. I think many such comments are made by people who currently feel at great risk of their current jobs being automated, and so they find a measure of solace in telling artists that they, too, will be replaced, that their jobs too will no longer exist. "If I go down, I'm taking you all down with me!" type of deal. There's a lot of emotion going around, especially in economically unstable times as they currently are - so do be aware that not every pro-AI person is entirely rational in their assessments. Only human beings can create meaning and invent - an AI only does what it's programmed to do.
On the topic of chat bots you should do a little research and see how impressive AI is getting at conversation. It fools people all the time, it just hasn't been deployed to businesses which use chat bots yet.
It has even fooled some of the very developers which have coded the AI.
@@karenreddy that's not AI. It doesn't think, it responds to particular input. If "a" print "b" it's just massive in scope, but not very sophisticated.
@@karenreddy In this regard, they both look like robots to me. They irritate me with the same artificiality to sell a product.
@@tomaszurbaniak4312 it's machine learning. Do you know how it works? It actually learns works, meanings, contexts and latest iterations have a form of persistent memory. Many people have gotten fooled so far. I am not referring to simple chat bots.
@@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 they're not currently used to sell products. You're referring to simple algorithms, not the latest ML.
Im sure back in March a US court ruled AI art cannot be copyrighted, and again in the UK, AI art relies on data that may be protected works. Maybe someone smarter than me could explain possible implications of desiging an artistic or stylised indie game that can't have its art copyrighted.
I don't think court ruled this. It ruled that AI can't hold copyright, but human who used AI could.
@@sychuan3729 shouldn't the actual copyright go to the person who coded the AI?
Wow… this video covers all the basis. So impressed. As a fellow concept artist having an identity crisis- thank you. I reached many of these conclusions myself. But gosh it feels good to have another artist relay it back to me.
same here went back to look at this vid, im a student concept artist and it scares me as this has been my whole life and i dont want it to crumble down on me
@@tom8636 it will be a tool - albiet a powerful one in the arsenal of people who work for companies. Is ai going to hurt the 'clout' of any one single image - especially on the social media scene - yes definitely. But being an image maker and a visual pro is about more than that. And that greater category isn't going a way. Thats my take atm.
Wow, perfect timing, I’ve been kind of panicking in the back of my mind about this subject.
Honestly it's gotten to the point that I irrationally see these AI programs as an insult towards art and artists. I get mad about it.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 why get mad? Maybe it's time we change how we see art? Art has always evolved as society evolves. Realism fell out of popularity when photography was invented and we got abstract art. We use to hand animate all cartoons but now I can do a live preference as an animation. We don't know how AI will change art but be sure that it will. Don't get angry, get optimistic. Idk if you've realized it but this entire world is about change.
@@DeniseHoukMedia Indeed I have realized that, and I've really tried to be optimistic here. But just because something is going to happen, doesn't mean that that thing is good, and I really can't see how the positives outweigh the negatives here.
Things like DALL-E 3 has great potential to first kill off the currently thriving internet art community, which currently revolves a lot around commissions. Eventually, it could reasonably kill all commercial (so non-fancy high art) art jobs too. That is to me a great tragedy.
After all, why would anyone pay an artist to do anything when a machine can do their job in a fraction of the time for no experience and no labour cost?
Sure, we could enter some sort of space communist utopia where no one needs money or anything, and people could just do art because they like it, but due to the way the world currently looks I don't see a huge restructuring like that happening any time soon.
As it stands, I can't really see this doing anything but either failing for whatever reason, leaving the industry is largely unaffected, or succeeding, and we lose 90% of art jobs.
And then you just make 90% of artists miserable as their skills are now useless and they have to work minimum wage jobs or something for the rest of their lives to survive, their purpose and passion crushed by a computer. Good stuff.
I'm sorry but it's just a tragedy to me. I can't see how this would be a good thing. It's like we're working as hard as we can to make human beings obsolete.
@@DeniseHoukMedia For now, we can at least take some solace in the fact that the company may not necessarily be satisfied with the art that even a hypothetical Dall-e 3 produces, even with the best prompts. If anything, the artist may actually take to editing the same images generated by the AI to make it that much more emotionally impactful.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 I use to work at a place that processed film. I worked in the darkroom. It was a fun job. Now I am a photographer and shoot real estate. Realtors are notoriously cheap. As cellphone cameras get better I'm sure I'll no longer be needed for that job either. IG has moved to video to compete with TT. I'm now working to do more video work and edit video. I'm also learning 3d and 3d printing. We evolve. We, as artists, have to. There are already things like Fiverr that has devalued creative work. A company can use stock photography for pennies. It's really easy to look to the negative side of things. It's also disheartening to realize that the years you've spent on developing your skills could become obsolete in some ways but if you stay on the positive and realize that at the same time you were learning to create art you were also developing the ability to hold your focus, learn the relationship of color, develop your minds eye- etc. You know you have skills that translate over to whatever technology morphs into. What could you use an infinite stock library with all copyright free images for? That's basically what these programs are becoming. If they eventually animate, what could you create with that? How many people can tell amazing creative stories? The universe has never let me down for finding work. Sometimes one thing leads to another. I painted murals for a while. Then I worked for a painter-house painter. I learned so much about kinds of paint, sprayers, solvents, ppe. I could have cried about having a "non creative" job but now I'm a way better artist and muralist. (I still paint murals as a side gig)
Stay creative. Don't fret. Trust the journey. You're not alone on it.
Fun fact, after play with AI for a few weeks, I got more interested in learn how to paint, the fundamentals stuff. After all, I consider myself an artist (a very amateur artist) but I wasn't even a little bit proud of what Ive done with IA, sometimes my current skill doesn't allows me to fix in a homogeneous way the images that the IA gave me, so in summary, after dedicate in study the natural way, I can say I'm already a better painter than what I was 2 months ago before discover these IA algorithms
i like this comment, and expresess all my feelings about the theme. so i will repost it.
"As a graphic designer, I am watching all those videos and I am reading the comments below. It all recalls one image in my mind. Remember that tsunami that happened 10 years or so ago in Thailand? You probably saw the amateur footage of ppl staring at the waves getting bigger and bigger, and finally running for their lives once it is already too late. They also didn't believe such a thing might happen. They would look around and see only a few wrapping their stuff and going somewhere safe. They would think - See? Things will sort out, and everything will be normal. Nope, it will not be the same, not even close."
People are still amazed when they see someone copy a realistic drawing from a picture even though cameras exist. Will AI replace concept art jobs? Yes, but not all of them.
Trent mentioned that AI won't be able to do a cool pose of already existing character, but I think that it's exatcly what AI is going to be used in and what it is good at - modifying already existing data. Look at all the filters that exist already, you can upload one image of a mona lisa and AI generates a video of her talking. Its not perfect yet, but its getting better every day.
In general, AI wont replace skilled artists, but companies might, if its cheaper to use AI for a same thing that a person would be doing. Most people dont buy games in WEST, because some skilled artist worked on it, they buy it because a well known company made it.
I won't buy AI generated game. No human effort in arts - no money from me. It should be free then.
@@vadimbelousov4938 I think that AI should only be used for bots in videogames, how they react in a realistic manner depending on the game. Having AI generated videogameart to me is a bit like putting MSG in every dish in a 3 star Michelin resturant.
"collect" data or "STEAL" data... hmmmmmm
@@obiwanian2774 that’s actually what they do, steal. IT coding AI are known for stealing.
Yeah it won't be long until you can just apply a picture of a model in a pose, or like, sketch a very basic pose and just tell it "Put this character in that pose" and as long as it has the front and back view data for it like from a reference sheet it could probably do it. Not there yet, but it will be some day.
So I don't agree with Trent there. I'm not ignorant of how powerful this will be in the future- just because it's not there yet does not mean it won't be there, and soon.
If the AI can continue learning along with creating its own content that doesn't rely on other artists' IPs/creations, ya screwed. There's a tool already that 3D scans objects such as rocks/trees/grass irl, to use as set pieces in video game stages to save time in creating the 3D meshes, that's someone job right there. Speed is the name of the game in game dev. Yes, creativity too, but that's a small number of truly skilled people.
photogrammetry is still very expensive and requires human input to make these assets game ready.
plus it's easier for an indie company to make original meshes in substance designer than spend thousands scanning in a 2.4 mil polygon tree, retopologising it and doing what you would've done anyway (physics etc.) you also need to follow character/enviroment design that will have been created by the art department.
capcom, an AAA publisher, required an insane amount of human input for the automated parts of RE8's development.
@@evilmostdefinitely4729 kind of, a few mods on skyrim used photogrammetry for textures and they are just single modders lol, textures looks amazing btw
AI coupled up with a image manipulation program reduces the skill requirement tremendously. You will still need the theory like you said, but it's not gonna be nearly as difficult for someone to create professional-looking stuff especially when practicing this takes much less time than doing everything manually. The art industry is already super competive, this will make shit even more hard for artists.
But probably not any harder than it's always been.
Create is not the difficult part about concept art, is to give a design solution to thr level design, to the camera view, to the character design, is not painting pretty things like we see here
@@royalecrafts6252 exactly
@@TrentKaniuga You’ll be surprised to hear that there’s always a lower rock bottom
This has been bothering me for a while now, I’ve looked at many discussions on AI and Im open to using it as a tool to some degree (just for studies, not to incorporate it in my art unless it’s literally just for textures but i’d rather use photos), but since technology grows exponentially Im concerned a good percentage of artists will be replaced in an industry that’s already super competitive and we as people be devalued because we don’t contribute to the market as much anymore, our skills that took so much to hone are rendered useless just like that.
A lot of replies to fearful artists are either people who think AI art will stagnate or people who think artists are these whimsical people who draw pretty pictures and apparently don’t need money to live cause “you do it out of love”. Of course we do, and I will not stop drawing because of it, I literally draw the whole day and cant fall asleep cause i can’t stop thinking about what im gonna study the next day; but you have to understand my parents are afraid im not gonna get a job and I’ve been overworking myself for a long time since I cant fail at this and i know how hard it is to get into the industry and actually make a living out of it + where i live there arent many opportunities, and im NOT the exception. Sometimes i wish i had the same passion i have for art but for something that feels safer, I tried pursuing other stuff but ill rather rot that do anything else. I sacrificed everything for art, art is more important than family and friends time for me, having it as a hobby would never work for me, i cant be happy without it.
We also forget art as a craft has a long history and techniques, methods, knowledge that has been passed down generations that we almost lost with the advent of contemporary art but managed to get it back, and I don’t want it to happen again. What about innovating these techniques as well? And I don’t mean copying and pasting some AI generated art, i mean expanding our fundamental knowledge of art, of the principles and so on. Also artists look at the world differently and it bothers me that AI might render our role so useless that less and less people will keep all of this alive, and the ones who do will be overworked and underpaid and people will possibly look at us like we are filling some useless role just for the sake of it.
I know it’s unlikely to happen that soon, but honestly idk. And for people who say “y’all are overreacting” i mean yea I would like to eat “just do art as an hobby and pick another job” ye imagine telling that to a doc whos been studying 6+years, maybe tell that to a programmer? Oh right, majority of people who criticise artists for being scared are programmers who code the AI (possibly w/ artists work) and get paid for AI generated art, and then tell artists that there’s nothing to worry about if they’re at the top of their field. Funny that a lot of people call artists “selfish “ because they simply want to be able to afford living expenses and art expenses, and they are the same people who make random NFT projects integrating AI into it just to scam people out of their money using “art” as a façade.
Also art ed is expensive(like most educations but more cuz of supplies), and it takes a lot to learn(+standard for entry position is high)and many people only have access to free online resources, if what I’ve said really happens literally only people who are already rich will be able to afford living expenses, materials and education to actually be on top of the field and imagine how many passionate people, potential Frazettas, will be working in a random field they’re not passionate about just because it pays the bills and won’t have the time to study art (because yes, you need to study art A LOT if you want to be good, there is no magic talent thing happening). To be a programmer you have to have a good understanding of math that you study for free al the way up to high school, meanwhile where I live theres no art class offered so everything I learned i had to do it by myself. A friend of mine got out of a highschool specialized in programming and immediately got a job (ill be it not the best, but they pay him good money relative to his expenses) and has been working there ever since. It’s just different.
I agree with you here completely. I'm absolutely terrified about how this will change the industry for smaller artists.
I don't think established artists will have many problems, which is why I think many of them aren't worries about it. Its much different for those of us till working our way up. Your concerns are 100% valid and our fear exists for a reason.
You do comics Trent, you know the value and individual touch that every inker/finisher has.
I have so many complicated emotions about this. I'm terrified about what this will do to artists and the future of art.
I see it's usefulness from a business perspective. But that almost makes me all the more furious. This was not created to help artists but to exploit and replace them. Granted we can use it as a tool ourselves, but I don't see that as being of equal benefit to the millions of jobs it is likely to replace.
I also know that expression and creation shouldn't be limited to those who have the privilege to learn a craft. Giving others a taste of the creative process is beautiful. I'm okay with others using it for personal expressive use. At the same time though, can see how it might devalue the years and lifetimes that artists dedicate to honing their ability. Again, the scale is unbalanced and the ends don't justify the means for me.
Lastly I'm tired of artists being too optimistic about the rise of AI. I'm not blind to the positives, but I feel that the worries of small creators have been unvalidated by those with secure art careers. Those who are already established in the industry will be safe, but what about those of us still working our way up? Granted, I'm still going to do all I can and adapt with the changing climate, and will still create art whether I get paid for it or not.
All in all, I think that AI art is a needless invention of questionable ethics that leaves artists with the short end of the stick. The positives do not make up for the losses we will undoubtedly experience.
(If you read all of this, wow! Thank you! Feel free to share all perspectives. I have very strong opinions but I'm open to others as well. I'm happy we are able to help each other as fellow artist through all of this uncertainty.)
So… become more than just “an artist. “ now you can do more.
@@TrentKaniuga That’s easy to say…
AI development is heading the wrong direction. Computers should do the tedious tasks for you. Clean up my linework. Find reference photos for me. Retopologize my model. And leave the creative part to the artist. I have to spend hours doing the retopo on my models because automatic retopo methods are so useless they create more mess than they help.
Quite honestly 90% of AI art that I've seen is in fact utter garbage. That's because the nerds who make it don't understand abstraction. They think that abstraction is random. It's not. It takes emotion to do good abstractions, which computers don't have.
As a concept artist, I knew for certain that AI wouldn't replace my job and most other art related jobs. In the case for my career, I'd thought I could use AI generated images for referencing and somewhat inspiration, but, I just rely on my good old Pinterest and Google search more. Mainly cause it takes me 2 minutes to generate what I finally like, vs a quick 10 second browse in the internet. My art directors also took time properly critiquing and assisting me rework my own pieces from thumbnail sketching to first, second and third drafts.
Has your opinion changed? I’ve been studying art for a couple years but I’m concerned about the concept art industry due to ai. I would love to get the opinion of a professional.
@@solemaniharami3963 Not one bit. I'll admit, a lot of the AI pieces people create are very amazing. However, they lack any concept art to them. As far as I'm concerned, AI has little assistance in concept design at any point of the workflow. If anything specific, it's good for photobashing materials into one's piece, but, even that doesn't really do much.
I guess the majority of the misconception lies with the product itself. I mean, AI generates illustrations. These don't really help the modelers, riggers, or other teams. It's one of the reasons why concept design will stay awhile because we're needed to design, reiterate and redesign at nearly every stage of production.
I'd say, keep up with the studying. Have a backup if anything ever changes, but, for now, we are in the clear. Best of luck, my friend.
can we see your portfolio? just curious
i love how youre talking about the next tool, while literally and calmly doing DIGITAL art (instead of on transparencies) and using the mirror tool instead of drawing the left then the right... it's so meta! 🙂
AI is developing exponentially fast. I have almost no doubts that it will be able to replace most of the workers in many markets in the next decade. To try and understand its future by patterns of human history seems wrong to me because for the first time in our history there is an intelligence that challenges our own. True, ai is more a tool than a sentience as far as we know, but that doesn’t mean people won’t use that tool to increase their fortune at the expense of others like they have so far.
However, I agree entirely that this shouldn’t discourage us from pursuing our dreams. I think you brought up a great point in regard to doing these things first and foremost for yourself. We owe it to ourselves to be happy doing what we want to do and to stop stressing out over money all the time
Long ago many predicted that _photography_ would kill art. But it didn’t, did it? Painting and drawing continued unabated, striking out in new directions, and photography itself (including cinematography) came to be accepted as a valid “art”. We live today in a culture in which we are bombarded daily by _images,_ some which are enjoyed and appreciated by perceptive inividuals and labeled “art”. But what is “art”? It is essentially an aspect of _human-to-human communication._ An artist is a communicator, trained and skilled to communicate through images. In that sense, images cobbled together by algorithms trained to plagiarise details from a vast data base of images (produced by human beings!) are not “art”, however striking many of them undoubtedly are. This very new exciting and surprising technological advance has created anxiety for many artists who fear their expertise will become redundant. I feel this fear is premature and unwarranted. I venture to predict that “consumers” of art will rapidly tire of a superabundance of AI images in which the crucial ingredient of _human imagination_ is lacking. I suspect that AI “art” will eventual settle down to become a source of inspiration for _human_ artists, nothing more.
A synthesizer doesn't make songs. A synthesizer is another instrument people use in their songs. AI makes full finished products. I think synthesizers are not good comparisons. Any music tech doesn't sound like actual people playing Instruments (yet), and someone has to compose what the software plays anyways. Totally different. If simulated guitars on PC could sound like actual real guitars and if the software could compose music by itself, that would be almost comparable but not quite, because music also has the live performance thing about it which making artworks doesn't have.
There's been AI generated music tracks for a few years now
Ai doesnt make finished products
@@Personincrowd it does
AI is still in it's infancy, in only a couple of years it's skyrocketed in quality its scary. It's naive and short sighted to think it's just going to be what it is now. AI will become better, and it's depressing.
Super inspired and grateful for you sharing your wisdom, Trent. Also, Twilight Monk looks so fun to play omg, instantly added to wishlist, can't wait for the release!!!!
Love these philosophical videos, really enjoy listening to these for work! Cheers
its doesn't matter if AI will replace me and outperform me, I would still make and publish my artwork, even I have to take a standard job and do my project for free after my work hours.
I wan't to work in the animation industry to get better at art, and not the other way around :)
that's you tho. don't you think there will be an issue when 98% of artists aren't able to make their passion into their career?
@@viinsee4951 Nevermind the one's that have already spent their lives honing their craft.
11:31 i agree with you . if digital artist will be replaced by programs , then many things will be replaced by machines and programs too . so art is not the only one affected by this .
They're just automating the fun stuff which brings meaning to our lives - don't worry, humans will still have to collect trash and serve coffee.
Yeah, given sufficient advancement, there really isn't anything AI couldn't replace on a technical level. I think people are just quicker to notice AI doing art more readily than other fields because it stands out so much and makes for a great YT thumbnail compared to things like translation, surgery, consultation or whatever. But it's happening everywhere.
Like Trent said, I'm betting on the human spirit too.
"I'll always put my faith in the human spirit" what a line.
When 3D computer animation started to become more common in film and television, less traditionally animated content was produced. Many studios closed departments and/or locations but eventually opened 3D animation departments/studios.
I knew a handful of traditional animators who switched to 3D animation. At the same time if you wanted/want to learn 3D animation you still need to learn traditional animation techniques.
Do I think AI neural network learning artists could fully replace most human artists? Yes absolutely but definitely not all, as niche markets exist in many areas. When? Hard to say, as the technology could advanced quicker than we think.
It just kind of saddens me, you know?
Lots of the tech people talking about it seem very sure that "oh who cares, we won't have jobs in the near future anyways because AI is going to do everything for us and no one will need to work." I sincerely doubt that, though.
And as a young artist, not even yet out of university, It makes me sad that I might have missed out on making art. That I've missed out on the world of art before it all gets drowned in AI-produced stuff. There's a chance that I'll never get to fulfil my dreams just because I was born too late, and some IT man somewhere decided to automate art.
I guess there's not much I can do about it, but I still haven't really been able to make peace with it.
Ai Art generators are not really might concern. My concern is the intention of why they were developed in the first place, which is mostly for the entertainment industry to cut costs and speed up productivity. It's an amazingly powerful tool and will continue improving at a fast rate. However, the art it generates doesn't feel like it's my own even though I gave it a specific prompt I made up. Although it makes incredible art for you, the enjoyment of making the art yourself is gone. You're left with amazing Ai art while also feeling empty and bored. The sense of creativity and wonder has been stripped away. It's almost like Ai is spoiling the ending of every show or film. That being said, I'll continue to use it while improving in art. I guess I'm just going to have to get over and used to this feeling.
"Although it makes incredible art for you, the enjoyment of making the art yourself is gone"
That's false. The enjoyment is still there, when you do it yourself with your skills. This enjoyment is irreplaceable by AI. That's why there is no reason for you to give up art.
" My concern is the intention of why they were developed in the first place, which is mostly for the entertainment industry to cut costs and speed up productivity."
This for sure wasn't the main intention. Will it be done in the industry? Sure, it will. But the purpose of these AI existing was primarily done because we can, and it is cool, and it creates interesting outputs.
@@PetyrC90 No it isn't, I doubt the painters of the Renaissance era would use AI BS. They would find it insulting. Those people were legends, and I respect them because of it.
@@raijinthemaster88 what you said has nothing to do with what I said
@@PetyrC90 To clarify, when I'm drawing myself to make designs, feels more gratifying than using Ai as a crutch to make designs for me. So yes, Ai will never replace that human experience, which is why I am over Ai art now. It was interesting at first, but now, it's just boring and gimmicky to use. However, for others, you can use it as another Pinterest to come up with ideas. Personally, I wouldn't use Ai art as a final rendered piece to publish since it's not my own art.
As for why it was developed, is still into questioning, especially since most of these Ai art developers have not released their database and sources on how their generators make art in the first place. As of now, it seems these generators are stealing thousands of artists' work without their consent to train Ai art generators, such as stable diffusion, midjourney, and so on. If this is the case, the law will eventually catch up to Ai art. More importantly, Artists should be more vocal about this since it's exploiting their rights.
Love seeing your completed level being played after you drew the hell out of that cavern, Trent!
It’s not about wether or not we learn how to do something, the problem is that these cheap corporations will cut costs at every turn…meaning ground level employees!!
I just wanted to thank you for this video. I've thought about this topic a lot, and I more or less came to the same conclusions as you, but there has still always been a pit in my stomach on a subconcious level I couldn't shake. Hearing this is reassuring, and I'm sure a lot of artists other than myself need to hear this right now.
Thank's a lot for this topic Trent ! As always, great video :)
I think it also shows there’s a lot of these ppl who crave instant attention and glory. Then there’s those who HAVE to do art (the whole process) because it’s in our DNA and fabric as a person. I’ve drawn traditional so long, and just built a PC and bought a tablet to teach myself to draw digital. It’s slightly overwhelming and an AI can help a bit with speed, so it’s useful, but it cant simulate the journey watching myself grow as an artist.
Exactly! It's all the intangible stuff that makes our art uniquely human, which AI doesn't have a concept of.
I think that stuff is affected by AI too.
It offends me somehow, at an almost spiritual level (even though I don't consider myself a very spiritual person). It destroys some the sanctity of art in a way, knowing that you'll never be as good as a machine that some IT guy made (but didn't even fully make, since these AIs train themselves).
I dunno. Even assuming we wouldn't need jobs as a society anymore (which I don't think is happening anytime soon), I still think a part of art is lost when machines can do anything you can do better. Maybe that's just me though.
@@sirreginaldfishingtonxvii6149 I don't know but I saw the AI art and I played around with it. The AI is limited. It can't create emotions and can't create a story in the image.
@@-Pridebycreatons- Not yet it can't.
And I hope it stays that way.
Guess what? The boss paying your pay cheque, or customer paying for your set doesn't give a fuck about your artistic "journey". All posts like these are pure fucking copium.
Not sure if anyone else feels this way but AI art scares me. :/
Yeah, scary cause it's so ugly and people even liking it makes it scarier
rewatching this in March 2024. Thnak you for this , as a 2D Art enthusiast/ Hobbyist, AI will never replace the joy in my artmaking!
Even if AI can create almost human-like fully finished products I don't really see the point. The point of art is for humans to create things that other humans can experience. If an artwork is created by a fancy algorithm it may look cool, but it also lacks purpose. If I follow an artist it's because I like the way they process reality and turn it into art, not because they're able to push a button and churn out generic looking "cool pictures".
I like the memes though
Thanks for vid, I needed to hear something like this. A blend of harsh reality but glimmers of hope. This video has aged well considering the massive updates were seeing so fast.. we are heading toward more generalist positions in the future
The only issue I see with AI is for those who want to get into the industry or do print on demand stuff. For the industry, corporations are all about money and will cut a team out the first chance they get to fill their bottom line, especially if A.I. is cheaper. Humans will still be needed to push an A.I. generated piece to completion. For POD, I just see the potential for more crap art flooding the market place. Being an indie artist, I can see I'll have to adapt and adopt AI at some point. No sense in being scared. :/ Too much gloom and doom and not enough "how can I adapt." I should also add, there will be more appreciation for people who have the skills. Look at people who use traditional paints vs us digital artists. People are willing to pay a far prettier penny for traditional paintings vs my digital works. AI will be in a similar boat.
Whats exactly crap art? All Ive seen from AI looks wonderful so far
@@royalecrafts6252 it is is samey and shallow. Similarly to hotel paintings. Which is what will be replaced first, imo. Not concept artists, but on-demand aesthetic pictures meant to decorate your wall.
@@du6167 I will gladly pay for AI art instead of quick hotel art for sure
The point is: without industry, what can young artist aspire to? Freelancing, with all the risk it takes? Vdg industry, concept art and illustration were the basic foundation to push an art education forward (of course the fields are many and varied, but you get the deal), and... now?
What type of *job* can an artist aspire to? AIs are taking away not only some of the "safe" harbours which we created/got inspired by, but even the future ones we may get.
Without an industry of people, without relationship, exchanges, connection and communities, artists will burn out. I know because I am living through it.
@@du6167 you can have it unique by changing the promt
Hell yes Trent, you are a huge teacher, and wow, your game is looking super tight, so much weight. Thanks for all the content, a lot of appreciation for real🤜
Concept art is already crazy undervalued in many productions. At the studio I work at the art director is already using AI to bypass much of the concept art process. If studios can get a "good enough" result from AI in seconds, they will. Its just creating more ways to undervalue and exploit visual artist.
Ai art is not concept art.
@@TrentKaniuga Try convincing all the Executives
You touched every single aspect I was wondering about. Thank you for this video, sort of philosophical/motivational talk.
Tools to speed up processes aren't so bad, for example using 3D models as a base because when I freehand perspective it looks better than when I follow every freaking line haha.
I do still worry about where the future is headed, because it is so easy for people to lose touch with their spirituality and interpersonal relationships. Anxiety and depression seems much more volatile nowadays than in the past. I think I can keep going on about this for hours lol :D
I'm a skilled concept artist & art director for both 2D or 3D games, so I'm aware of the work necessary.
AI will absolutely replace many concept artists. Perhaps even the majority... eventually.
It doesn't need to fully replace concept artists to cause major disruption, it simply needs to make it so fewer artists are needed to create the same or more ideas.
This trend will likely slowly start from this very moment forward.
If one artist can eventually become as productive as 10 artists, and the need for such artists doesn't grow 10 fold in the same time period, we will have a massive oversupply of labor, which will have a major impact on wages of all but perhaps a few top tier talent. Even a relatively mild productivity gain of 10-20% would have a massive impact.
AI will be able to take an existing character, put it in an interesting pose doing something specific to the request of an artist.
Right now you can use existing images to have AI create variants of the original, and it's remarkable how well it is able to do so, even though the software is clearly at such a high degree of infancy.
Right now you can also select specific areas of artwork using software such as Dall-E 2 and make specific requests for variations and changes to the areas. These are already powerful tools, abd they're just getting started.
It's just a matter of time, but AI will come for all jobs. This is not necessarily a fatalistic viewpoint- it may prove to be a wonderful thing, provided if learn to leverage the technology correctly as a society, for the benefit of all and not just the few.
I completely agree.
@kogepanm because I understand the technology enough to know how different it is from hand crafted code.
Diagnostics AI is already better and more efficient than expert doctors. Coupled with robotic they will handle surgeries with higher precision, the benefit of which will remove a great deal of power from surgeons. AI is being used in research and to design systems. AI is now useful for 2D art, in making 3D models with good topology, 3D animation and in-betweens, starting to do code and can reply to natural language well enough to pass as human to some people. As opposed to old code, rhses systems learn, adapt and can make meaningful new connections.
The one current downfall is that they must be trained to understand a specific field. They become experts in that field, such as they are becoming at concept art and illustrations, photoshopping, in this instance. But due to the limitations of the code and the dataset, that AI won't be proficient in, say, creating musical pieces. A new ML algo must be developed and trained to do just that, solving specific key problems along the way.
The holy grail is AGI, capable of handling mustiple fields and separate datasets, but we've yet to develop our model for that. It will come. Until then we will just make many thousands of specialists, and each of those specialties will replace most of the workers in the field. Perhaps not all, and certainly not at first, but it doesn't need to in order to destroy what you think of certain professions nowadays, and remove all the power from the common men. Everytime a profession is taken by AI, many in those massive numbers of displaced workers will flood other professions, diluting them, increasing labor supply and so reducing wages.
Productivity sill increase, but wages of most but a few very intelligent and specialized in professions hard to table by AI (at first) will decrease by a large amount.this is nothing new- we already see this cap in wage growth in developed economies save but for a few categories where capital tends to flow to and a high degree of proficiency and skill are required. The trend will simply accelerate, and the common working man will feel ever more disconnected from the idea that they could have a meaningful economic impact.
AI learns. It is here to learn what we do and do it better, faster. There is a future where humans aren't needed.
If we are to stay relevant as a species, we either must stop the development of AI (we won't, and we can't) or we must find a way to merge with it, such that the technology improves us, and we evolve as a species.
What other choice is there? We are creating a new form of thinking.
@@karenreddy "There is a future where humans aren't needed."
Humans were never "needed" in the first place, the real reason people are going to thrive with or without AI is called "want" humans usually "want" stuffs, and they'll go to any end to get it, no matter what, no matter the time it takes.
If i "want" to keep doing art, i'm going to, no matter what, if that means creating my own studio with a bunch of people because i don't "want" to be employed by a studio that rely on AI, then i'm just gonna do that
@@FloMoonYeah humans have always been absolutely needed. None of our civilization could run without humans. We need energy, and the higher our output and surplus of energy as a civilization the more we are able to specialize and create such things as AI. Without humans none of this would ever have been possible. Humans are the conclusion of millions-billions of years of evolution, culminating on this invention we are just starting, that of creating a new type of intelligence to potentially surpass ours.
Of course anyone can continue to do whatever they'd like provided they have the time and resources to do so (many likely won't have). But craft sill lose its relevance economically to society. Hobbies, for those who can, are ok. That is not under discussion. Under discussion is the fact that people will lose their living doing craft as well as just about anything else, eventually. The more complex and creative the task the more likely a profession is to be delayed in displacement. Craft will go first but some art will remain.
Creative thinkers will be able to leverage the tech to produce higher quantities of materials.
But the end game is for AI to replace all cognition, including creativity and depth of understanding, decision making.
@@karenreddy Do you have a portfolio I can look at?
I think you hit the nails on the head here. People find reasons to give up just to avoid failing and looking like a failure, and the arts cannot ever be replaced. Arts are a humanity subject, and cannot ever be simplified or put into formulae. Great conversation starter!
Corporations don't care about that, they care about efficiency and saving money.
I wish i could give you more like, thanks for inspiring me. Have a nice day Trent!
Great video! I do feel a bit like every time I hear an artist talking about AI say "AI is never going to ..........." it seems like they must think there's going to be some wall or limit the AI is going to hit and never improve further.. so it feels like a short sighted view that doesn't take into account rapid progress. Most of the AI apps being used atm didn't even exist in a usable state 1 or 2 years ago. The rate at witch it is improving isn't just linear either, it's exponential.. I bookmarked a lot of these videos so that in a year or 5, I can come back and compare sentiment and outlook with what actually happened, just because I find it interesting. I think a lot of people are really underestimating the impact this will have a decade from now, in all aspects. A really good channel that stays up to date with this stuff is Two Minute Papers, highly recommend checking it out!
I played around with artbreeder, made a 5 min landscape - then painted over parts of it and added a few points of interest. I could see how it could be a way to get stuff done quickly
Thank you Trent! I needed to hear this. So many industry greats out there are saying negative things. It's nice to hear you keeping posititve
Yeah. There are lots of negative voices out there.
I feel exactly the same as you. And I agree, there will be more creator led projects. The individual will be able to accomplish more and there will be more varied media offerings and unique art will stand out more.
I think we have a better chance of AI turning into terminator than replacing artist because the directives for a terminator are far simpler than directing an AI to make art from feel and the organic thought an art director has.
The conversation between an artist and their clients are very much vague and emotional in the start of of a project.
its already generating art based on the concepts we feed it. AI is just a extension of our brain power. If we can make art AI can make art. It's a combination of everyones work over the history of time....its the ultimate human.
@@foxdog9332 ...And considering what humanity is like, that probably makes it the worst thing to have ever graced the planet.
I'm like you trent in seing the positive ai art bot can bring. I messed around with midijourney myself over the last weekend when I got the beta invite. I loved my time with it and I was having a massive creative block ever since my painting class ended three weeks ago now. Now since I messed around with midijourney it actually helped me get out of art block and now I'm slowly starting to draw again to get new painting ideas from. I hope other people see it this way as well soon.
Best motivational video! I knew joining your discord and subscribing to your channel was a great move. Thanks for the push. Now im wondering how do you recharge your creative juices?
I'm still at school and oh boy couldn't say if I'm overwhelmed or excited. They're awesome! Imagine how fast stuff could be! I'm also an aspiring concept designer and still grinding the fundies. I ain't slackin around with these AI yet but am very excited
What scares me is that, as someone who has finally scrapped together the money to get a graphic tablet and started learning art, is that I'll never be able to live off of it.
Wealth and fame aren't much of a concern when you're trying to eat.
I love your videos Trent. Yes, you are critical and discouraging sometimes, but in a good way, like, you motivate in a down-to-earth way, and I love it. Keep it up, man! You inspire me
I love ai because, when used morally and as intended, it fuels ideas and creativity. Paint overs, composition inspiration, collage etc are what it’s intended to be for. Ai is a tool but I just hate that others use it as the project itself.
Love this take, don’t let fear deter you from enjoying crafting your own art💪🏽
Love you man. Love you. You have always been my inspiration 💖
AI will probably never replace concept artists, but it will most likely reduce the amount of concept artist a company needs eventually since the output would be faster.
You make a really good point in saying stylized art is going to become more appreciated, which is honestly a great thing. I for one love art styles that go a bit out of bounds and this new wave of AI will simply motivate more people to differentiate their art even more
Stylized art can be replicated by AI. AI will be making its own styles in a few years.
@@redwolfmedia2281 it won't because it literally cannot make its own style, it needs to copy other styles to work, the only way that would be possible if it became real Artifical intelligence, which it won't.
The art you made during this vid is amazing. Do you have it as wallpaper one can download?
It will be a level in the Twilight Monk game. Wishlist it on Steam!
Thanks for helping me gain an new understanding and keeping hope
This turned out to be really empowering.
Being surrounded by a bunch of people, particularly in an indie dev co-living, who are talking about ai and how it's about to replace art jobs and da di da di da it's... vexing. I especially feel resistance towards the statement "If this freaks you out, quit the game; stop doing art; you're not in the right place." (Which all of this is blasphemy and fuck 'em). I am opposed to the way people often express themselves about ai in art, but it's not fear I feel.
It's... it offends me. Bloody hell it infuriates me, this idea that what I do - the heart and the human touch - doesn't have any value, and that if I fear that "AI will take my job" or if I "fear using AI" I should quit. What in the actual world -
I've done art my entire life and I would do it regardless of whether or not I'd build a career out of it. I just love doing it, man, it's the most authentic part of me that I have.
It's like you say, the notion that ai could replace what I do is offensive. It is hard, it's really fucking hard but damn is it rewarding. The work I do - the work we do - is not to be taken for granted, because the soul we put into our work is a wonderful thing and it can only come from us.
It irrationally angers me too. To no end, actually.
Totally agreed with you even just on the first 2 minutes. I love it! I enjoy the process and learning new stuff! Respect!
AI is the new photobashing.
Not even a comparison to photobash you need to have a base understanding of composition, lighting and colour to get a decent looking finished piece . All you need here is ideas which are dirt cheap.
Those are very well thought out comments regarding AI that you give here in the video, thanks.
Nicely said!!
Thanks Trent! You Revived me!
Been playing around with MidJourne a lot lately, and I feel AI is going to be a fantastic tool FOR concept artists to use as a jumping of point. that said, I think there's gonna be a lot fewer jobs out there, since AI can replace a lot of junior roles and initial ideation, leaving mostly art direction and senior positions for the humans.
@@ivanmatveyev13 my workflow is basically 10 times faster, I can generate a lot of thumbnails in seconds to use as a jump of point, then while painting and cleaning up the generated base image, I can generate new prompts for callous or details simultaneously. Its like photo-bashing but without having to look though endless libraries for good stock images, and I can get more exact images lf I want to, or have the AI go wild and generate crazy things if I need inspiration.
That sounds super boring to me... I think the thumbnail and ideation step is the most creative part of the process. Leaving that up to AI would just turn me into someone who renders AI images.
@@torbjornkallstrom2316 I see what you mean, but I think your looking at it the wrong way. Its more like a back and forth partnership with a coworker, where you get inspired to try out more things rather then the ai doing the "fun part" :p
Right now, there is actually a shortage of skilled artists in the games industry. With the current trend of big open-world games, game worlds are getting more and more massive, and they need more and more content. Now imagine when augmented reality kicks off... the amount of art content needed will be off the charts.
I think artists will need AI tools just to keep up with the ever increasing demand.
How does a junior become senior without work experience? it sounds like it will end up eliminating most jobs
Some of these guys who are afraid... The problem is that fear makes you not take positive action or get involved or want to learn. So the fear will cause those people to lag instead of allowing them to be empowered by the new tools.
I agree that making art is a lot of fun. What stress me is that as you said, there will be less possibilities to get in to industry because everything will be robotised and automatised, so there will be less work. But yeah, it is what it is.
There has never been a greater demand for skilled artists in the game industry, and continues to grow.
I love your positive take about it. Love your work and I apreciate a lot all the knowledge you give to us. Regards from Spain.
Something I realized recently is that this also lowers the bar. That teen who wants to make his own game? He was never going to be able to pay a concept artist, and not everyone has a fried who is good with art, but with AI generated art the resulting game will be of much better quality than what he could previously been able to accomplish. What one dedicated person can do by themselves is substantially expanding.
Thank you Trent for another good video,
Some people have likely always been lazy. We just now have to see the views of more people that we might otherwise never have talked to because they weren't part the circles we chose (on both good and bad sides).
And your work is pretty cool.
I think people greatly underestimate human’s creativity. Once you get to work along side professionals, at times, you’ll see them create shit you’d never imagine even on the same old topic. Sure, AI will come in to help as a tool in the future, bridge the gap in technical stuff. But I’m willing to bet my life it’ll never be as creative as human. At least, not in our life time or foreseeable future. Generating ideas is kind of the main point of this job after all. Plus, if people in your team do not understand a painting or idea behind it. They aren’t gonna get answer from AI. They will from artist.
This. This is why I'm not worried about the whole AI replacing artists scare. There are so many factors. I don't deny the underlying problems it's already causing but there are plenty sensible clients and consumers of art out there that still appreciate an actual process to the whole thing with another human being. AI could never replicate the experience one goes through with client and artist communicating and connecting during the art process nor can it replicate an idea made by a person who can make the effort to think outside the box . That's the amazing thing about human creativity, it's so organic.
Quite frankly they said NFTs would kill off commissioned works yet NFTs are dying if not, dead.
Imo this is like photobashing, custom brushes, using 3D models with a Photoshop overlay, etc. Its another tool you can use to your benifit in any way you would like. If you want to stay traditional you can do that, but you can also combine all the tools you have to make things faster and have the cool factor. For me personally, I really enjoy the cool factor as far as art goes, above almost all else. Learning art is still valuable, you still need to know line art, shading, and colors. So when you get lets say an AI image you can manipulate the image to your liking.
This is an example for me personally. I want to make a card game and I have been working on this for 2 years and I am enrolled into art school to learn how to do the art for the game and will probably buy a few of Trent's courses as well and possibly some other courses that I see of value to my goals. But if I can make a crazy cool scene by typing a few words in and clicking enter. Then I make my own characters and story for the game. That would be epic. Time is limited and I wont be ashamed to use tools that speed up the process of the end goal I want in mind.
unlike brushes and 3D models, AI creates a finished product.
@@viinsee4951 it doesnt create a solution to a design issue
It all depends, AI will always have trouble to do stylized concept art but photobashed art will get more accessible and faster which will lower its value per project but increase the amount of projects an artist can take. Even if AI is not great it will be good enough to make a series of decent sketches that looks more presentable than black and white with some massaging. I think with more and more AI tech the dev teams will get small but the amount of them will increase if the funding allows.
You assume AI will always have trouble. I wish you were right.
Thanx again, Trent!
Am in my final year of an AI related diploma and every fibre of my being is against whatever I do. (And also because I don't want that future at all.) But I do see that human work, will always be better, because every person's process would be different and produce something unique. So yea, in the creative industry, I feel AI can never replace humans.
For artists who want to embrace AI as a tool so as to not be left behind by the industry, how do you reconcile with the fact that the AI art database is ripped off artists without consent? I feel the need to catch up with the industry but at the same time I feel bad about endorsing something unethical.
Im standing over here on team fun. Ai can't recreate the emotions we feel having learned and worked hard to create our latest piece whatever that be.
Ai felt soo empty to me and got bored around an hour in and was right back to working on my skills and improving myself.
Im not there yet working on a portfolio at the moment but it's hard and scary BUT it's FUN. 😊✍ stay strong artists we got this.
Those are your emotions. I guarantee you that vast majority of people do not give a shit.
The thing is Trent
A guy/piano playing music is a performance(though I think composing music will be replaced in the music)
While concept art/illustrations are just based on results nobody cares about you're performance in art,nobody wants to you draw for 2- 6hrs it's all about the end piece. Look at pottery that art form is dead due to machinery.
Noticed your frequency of uploads has gone down recently, Trent. Should we expect that from here on out? (Also, fantastic vid as usual.)
No. I’ve been working 10 hour days on the game, and will have news soon. Videos should be at least 1 per week again.
@@TrentKaniuga Thanks Trent. Your videos are a welcome boon!
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Thanks for this talk
I don't think it will replace concept artists.. It will be a tool that they use just like Blender and Photoshop. I have seen some cool AI stuff, but I always wonder how much influence the artist had during its creation or all the changes and fixes they have made after the fact. Because most of the time, the final result does not look like something an AI would be capable of. It needs to follow parameters. For example maybe you can code a program to "color in-between the lines" or plaster an abstract collections of random brush-strokes. But you need to find the image within those brush strokes to bring out an actual scene of some sort that makes sense to a person. Otherwise its just abstract. AI is more likely going to replace the modern and abstract arts.. but it will never replace the job of a designer. It may be used as a tool though.
well said
I think it will replace some. The volume of them.
Why have 10 people funnelling designs when They can have AI do some bulk examples, and fewer artists can take it the rest of the way.
There are videos already of graphic designers doing things that are better than -current- AI but only just by a bit, and they take like an hour but the AI does like 3 per 10+ seconds. Right now the person is irreplaceable, but many AI interations later? know knows.
SOmeone used Midjourney AI to recently win a damn art content and beat out all the actual other artists that entered genuinely. If it can take contest wins from people, then it won't be long before it costs jobs too.
I think we need protection laws and rules honestly. Like someone should not be allowed to submit AI art to an art contest; the same way someone can't take their sports car into the olympic 200 meter dash.
@@sociallyresponsiblexenomor7608 yeah I feel like the whole contest thing felt like someone commissioned an artist and then entered the contest with the art that they commissioned. I dont even think that is allowed in general? Like commission and then enter a contest with it.
Too naive..
I just started making ai art a few days ago. Today i will begin learning graphics arts terms for better prompts. AI cannot replace real artists but it can make a person want to learn more about art, artists and computers.
Been plaguing Ikeda on my Steam Deck, and it runs great with no issues. I can't wait to play Twilight Monk on the go.
maybe i am late watching this but thankyou sir, it makes me feel better..
when the a.i. thingy pops out, i've already told my self that if one day in the near future, that my only work for living is wiping robot's as*, i would still doing art anyway because i like creating art.
Concept art is about solving specific design issues and putting together solutions for the 3D sculpters and animators, is not the random stuff that AI does neither the pretty "concept art" images you see online which are often illustrations, AI will just help in some processes but we will not be replaced, at least until a fully concious AI comes into play, then yes probably will all be replaced mostly
well said.
I don't know which generators you're looking at but these things can absolutely do "pretty concpet art" and illustrations right now, and will only improve as time goes on (as technology does). I don't alot of people realize how serious this is. A paintbrush, a camera, and photoshop, are tools, because they're used to help with the process of getting to the end result. Ai art generators will just do it all for you.
@@QuesoGr7 thats the thing, concept art is not art and is not pretty things without a function
Thank you art father
I'm already learning carpentry so I have something to do when AI can do virtual art.
AI can't do carpentry? lol. I think thats great if you love carpentry. But if you also love art, just focus on that for fulfillment.
think about it this way; programmers had to create a super high tech program that has to take existing art, just to imitate concept art with pretty visual noise and photo filters. Few people have the discipline, honesty and intellectual and spiritual capacity to learn to make original designs and buildable, purposeful technical drawings. Creating it will be even more fun knowing you can actually create it, and not someone just trying to make a quick buck or some quick likes or clout.
i needed this.