Disney Animator REACTS to AI Animation!
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- Опубліковано 8 бер 2023
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Aaron Blaise is an animation feature film director and wildlife artist.
For 21 years Aaron worked with Disney helping to create some of the greatest animated films ever made. During that time he worked as an animator or supervising animator on "The Rescuers Down Under", "Beauty and the Beast", "Aladdin", "The Lion King", "Pocahontas", "Mulan" and more.
In 2003 he was co-director of "Brother Bear" for which he earned an Oscar nomination for Best Animated Feature Film.
After "Brother Bear" he helped to develop several projects but ultimately left Disney to pursue an opportunity back home in Florida. Aaron recently served as 2D Animation Supervisor and Character Designer for the "The Bear and the Hare" an advertisement loved by millions around the world. (vimeo.com/78740926)
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Thank you Mr. Aaron Blaise.
I'm losing work too. I'm a ghost writer, and college essays are a staple for me. But AI can do that now. But I'm not mad at it. Every leap shakes things up. Oog hated when Ug started drawing on the cave walls with charcoal. True art was made with hands and mud. Charcoal was cheating. Wrong. Lacked the human touch.
Same thing happened recently with drawing tablets and photoshop.
But instead of worrying about losing some writing work, I'm waiting for 2 years (given its rate of advancement) and working on writing a movie.
If I animate via AI, scene by scene, I can create my own movie, without any filming or art skills to speak of. That's the allure of AI. I can transcribe the scene i see in my head, and have it created for me, under my total control, no compromises, no workarounds, no need to deal with actors, and no *cost.*
Traditional art and animation won't ever disappear. But AI is coming, and no one can stop it. So I'm looking to utilize a new tool rather than waste time complaining.
@@ramizshould Thank you for watching!
Very cool reaction video, Aaron! BTW, most of this work (all but three scenes) was done before the ControlNet extension comes out (which detects edges on the source material, then forces generation to "draw within the lines"). Flicker should be significantly reduced with the use of it.
So all art AI needs hundreds of millions of pics fed into it to become competent; the Corridor Digital guys didn't so much train it on that anime style as they did tell it "stick to this look" by feeding in 70 anime screenshots, like giving it a style sheet.
You're excited to use the tech for your own projects; are you still ok with using it knowing that? There's no getting around it, no way to get that many usage permissions. Personally I'm fine with it; it seems the same as a human learning what stuff looks like by just growing up in the world. And most lawyers are betting the same, that it'll be Fair Use. But you can't make the tools work without it, and twitter's in a frenzy about it being theft. So are you still in?
Amazing insights, wisdom, and guidance. We’re honored you took the time to watch what we made, and it’s quite meaningful to us that you found it worthwhile to make this video and share your thoughts.
Thank you!
-Niko
I'd love to do more with you all!
@@hammerandthewrench7924 Genuine question, I'm not looking for an argument. Can you explain for me what is up with people getting specifically upset at them using the Vampire Hunter style in their video? And how it compares to any other video they have made in the past where they recreate Props/ costumes/ 3D elements to match and recreate a look style of an already existing IP? I can't tell what is so specific to something being "AI trained" and creating something similar but different VS something being "human brain trained" aka someone looking at something and then making an exact replica copy of it. I feel like if people are going to be questioning the legality of these methods, then they should be equally questioning of all of it.
I feel like people are just hopping on a "target anything with AI" trend right now or maybe I guess I'm out of the loop with the whole thing.
@@hammerandthewrench7924 you are right, I haven’t been reading a ton of comments, that is why I was asking. But my specific question was about corridor, and the ethnics of all transformative media they have made.
I understand the mindset people have towards stolen property and the reasoning behind the controversy of companies creating the image Data sets and then selling that a tool.
The methods they have used is all open sourced and the Movie is publicly available for them to reference.
Leading back to my original question, with a bit more detail.
Are people upset that they took a 1 for 1 image sequence of Niko and made him look like a character from a Specific Show that they didn’t get permission to use?
Or is everyone upset that it was done in this particular manner (using AI)?
Because if they had taken the time, to draw, frame by frame. To trace Niko and make him look like a Vampire Hunter character, would people still be upset, or even questioned it at all. Would it still be an issue that they should seek out permission first?
@@hammerandthewrench7924 vampire hunter isnt a style. It looks very similar to many anime/manga. Get over it. They don't own that style.
@@EthanfromEngland- Jup this. TSR's original comment is 'tell me you don't understand copyright law without saying it'.
Great video! We'd love to have you on our show. Let's connect!
Yes please
Upon watching the video I have a gut feeling somehow this would happen. Can't wait!
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OMG yes! Love to see Aaron in the sofa!
This is great! I love your perspective!
Indeed
i agree
it's naïve; and you're a fool looking for a comfortable lie.
Hi
The more exposure to AI created content the more easier it becomes to spot or recognise… in that regard as a consequence think it raises the value of the work by human creators who are at the top of their industry…
Does WIX or Wordpress raise your website value? Nope. It took 85% of your clients.
@@spartanastas5560 Making a website is different thatn making animation or art
Sure this is true for now. 5 years from now? No way. We've already gone from mid tier AI drawings to decent animation and it's been like a year and change since these things started coming out.
Yeah but more use of AI makes it better and better. In the future it will be indistinguishable and thats the issue.
Being the horse carrier rider has little meaning in a world of cars
"Bad story is a bigger threat than the AI. "...
LOVE IT
that's because you're simple minded, what he says is hyperbole, bad story wont end a fraction of the jobs that will be replaced by Ai. Grow up.
@@venomtangThat's crazy, you have really opened my mind. Thank you for your boundless wisdom and maturity, truly a breathtaking take on the situation.
@@bomdia4179 you're welcome, what he said was hyperbole, if anything, it was a joke-- that's it
@@venomtang bad story & bad management -> bad movie -> low sales -> layoffs . Is that so difficult to understand?
@@cipher01 I can prove you wrong in a few different ways, are you ready?
1- a "bad story" is subjective. Avatar had a bad story, its grossed the second most in history.
2-if a studio underperforms and goes out of business, those laid off will still find a job somewhere else because there's always new studios/ shows.
3-Ai is not only a threat to creative jobs, but all thinking jobs, legal, medical, data, lots of service jobs, but also physical jobs, cashiers, fast food, warehouses, etc.
Making Ai, a far, bigger, threat.
I could probably think of more, but the first one alone did the job. Maybe you should delete your comment, your call
The one thing we can all share a laugh at is the absolutely horror that is AI generated hands
Already been solved.
They are already getting way better unfortunately
Controlnet *Cough*
Was solved 2 months ago, but yes, we still meme about it. A lot.
controlNET is the model that solved that problem.
Perhaps the art of the future will be in curation more than content creation, or how to steer eyes and ears in a hyper saturated market.
I know people of equal talent can have different opinions on the same thing, but it's really interesting to see a veteran craftsman whose work I actually know, be so secure in their own skills and be open and curious about new technologies and ways of doing things.
That last thing about "bad movies and bad management" is the real threat that I think more artists need to be concerned with, because while it's said that nobody sets out to make a bad film, we're seeing a lot of people putting a lot of effort into art that could be better.
Disagree. I respect Blaise but he is talking from a tremendous privileged position: old, basically retired, with a good following and wealth to be comfortable. Having already made his breakthroughs and career, leaving a mark in the world behind him. And now enjoying his comfy position to further gain more wealth and do more art on his own.
Ask the same to a starving entry level artist, or student what this fucking tech represents.
@@Afreshio Disagree
@@Afreshio also disagree on asking someone too
@@Afreshio 100% I’m in early 50s just retired due to ill health. But I’m ok for finances. & I do oil’s installations for rich people now & again. If I’m 18 thinking about this. I’m just trying to see a way to where the skill I have means I have a decent life. Even oils right. & I’m really good. But there’s systems being developed where bots will go into situation & make physical media on site. Any size style & fidelity with real paint you want. It’s about 2-3 years from being ready I heard.
"If everyone is an artist, nobody is an artist" - an investor friend said this..
@@Afreshio This is pretty much how I feel. His points are valid and true. But I think he speaks from a position where he is comfortable in his craft and knows the impact will not cause him problems. The fear, damage and disruption to work, will not hit the older established artists of our field. But the new ones, trying to make a living while trying to get known and hone their craft. Fighting the usual modern issues of things like oversaturation of images farted out by AI, website algorithms supressing their work due to not being able to compete with the AI deluge. Loss of entry level work that helps build skill like Commissions and other illustrative jobs is just scratching the surface of the issues that will come from this.
And as I commented above. Companies like Stable diffusion need artists to give in and embrace their tech as the new future. They are selling a product, and they have openly stated over and over again that this product is created to be a finished one that replaces what we do. And that is a horrible thing to battle against when you are just breaking in, and they want and hope that new artists will give in and skip the vital steps needed to learn their craft, in favour of instant gratification. What a bleak future for the arts.
It's easy to take for granted the amount of time, skill, and effort that goes into hand-drawn animation. Watching Aaron Blaise's reaction video really highlights the painstaking work that goes into every frame, and the talent and dedication of the artists who create these works of art. And I think it's important to appreciate the human touch that goes into these creations, and the emotional resonance that comes from knowing that they were made by real people with real passion.
Great levelheaded take on this Aaron, love your attitude and optimism and you've touched on some key issues here really effectively!
Especially when so many non-animators are freaking out
honestly...I could careless unless people lose their jobs bc of it.
He didn't go on an insane rant about how special artists and their artworks are because of their "soul". That already makes him smarter and humbler than 90% of artists whining on the internet.
You should touch on this in one of your videos
@@randomvideoboy1 most artists are complaining because their works are being scraped without consent. Ppl whining about "soul" are a minority
So happy to see that whatever you think of this AI stuff that the discourse in these comments has by and large been a productive one.
What is the name of the song in the intro 0:05 because it impossible to find.B
I'm preparing to graduate from Texas A&M as an animator this semester and this has honestly given me some peace of mind. There's so much doomsaying out there it's hard to get a clean take, but hearing an even-handed answer from someone with years of industry experience does a lot. Thank you for your time putting this together, this was really insightful.
Gig em, m8
Realistically most people aren't going to put in the work to understand the AI tools. And even they they aren't going to put in the work to actually create a show/movie, hire voice actors/pay for decent tts, etc. A lot of Ai shit *can* be free if you don't value your time and already have the knowledge, but most people can't even be bothered to learn keyboard shortcuts, let alone stuff this complex.
In the near term, this is more likely to cost the jobs that were already being shipped overseas to cheaper and cheaper parts of the world. It was Japan, and then it was South Korea, lately, I think South Korea has even gotten too expensive, so not so much there any more.
I would be surprised if there weren't careers in animation in the US for long enough for you to work an entire career before this becomes much of a problem. I wouldn't personally expect for ML programs to be able to have the kind of predictability and marketability that humans bring to the project any time soon. And really, I wouldn't expect for there to be much incentive to reduce things much beyond a small team. It could even wind up with roughly the same number of jobs, just creating a much larger amount of work to watch.
You do know Aaron doesn't take this seriously because he won't be replaced? But ppl like you who came straight out of college will not be able to get a single job within 5 yrs.
Hopefully the twitter weirdos don’t find out about your animations or they are gonna do cringe requests
I would like to see AI only be used to HELP actual artists and animators. Help with inbetweening and other time consuming processes. This could help ease the workload on traditional artists and allow for the creation of great art. Sort of like Photoshop did. Photoshop did eliminate many traditional jobs and streamlined the process more, but it ultimately helped artists make better art. That is how I want AI to progress, not to replace artists with a machine. I am admittedly quite naive and perhaps super idealist about this, though, but imagine if AI can help traditional animation to a cost-effective point where traditional animation experiences a renaissance. I would love for that to happen.
This is already possible. AI art apps often have options allowing you to create original pictures, or edit AI pictures. For free apps, the tools are pretty basic, but a dedicated artist probably wouldn't mind paying for a more advanced program that has a better toolkit, since they already do this with basic art programs
Doubt corps think that way
For inbetweeening? Nope, never.
Now for coloring and shadows, yup, could be helpful.
my question to you is what is considered HELPFUL vs replacing. because everyone has different opinions. you yourself say help with inbetweening but Some artist are vehemently against that since it gets rid of inbetweeners. Help with coloring, gets rid of color artist. Its an easier phrase to say that really means nothing right now
5:52 I believe, something similar to what you described here, was used for the movie 'Klaus'.
The characters were hand animated and colored, but the shadows were painted with a special tool that uses AI to shade the characters according to the environment, with the help of some manual adjustment.
I am so glad you decided to make this video ❤ AI has worried so many artists including myself and hearing your thoughts from experience in 2D animation is very VERY comforting ❤
Thank you my hero
And I agree we need to put more effort and love into our stories!
i understand what you mean. i was in a dark place until i asked my favorite artists what they think it was uplifting to hear them say basically the same thing ( give it time it will be ok )
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I'm a professional artist of 15+ yrs of experience, and have decided to get acquainted with the technology.
I'm here to tell you that just like any tool, it benefits from a keen eye, understanding of artistic knowledge such as color theory, design sense, composition, etc. It's useless by itself, powerful in the hands of any human, but specially amazing in the hands of an artist.
Stable Diffusiob has tools where you can input a drawing and get an amazing result with lighting, shadows, out of it.
Relax, take a breath, consider trying it out. It's a tool.
As a person who likes art, but doesn't call themselves an artist, the fear people have is stupid. It dumbs down art as just money or simple colorful drawings. Nothing in comic books or of multiple characters will be renders with high levels of execution without actual direct human intervention from what I see. Simple composition and direction, 2 of the first considerations of intentional art direction can't be generated without clear meaning.
But beyond that, Disney has been going 3d for a long time now. If anything, it'll just be a tool of concept art or something to relieve artist's block, which will actually help.
But that's just me.
@@karenreddy as a professional artist of 50+ years jk it doesn't matter as long as it is created using stolen art. as long as the work of artists are is being used to make these for profit software without the consent i am against it .
This gave me a whole new perspective. I was initially concerned about AI, but I hadn't realized that this had happened before with old tech being threatened by the unfamiliar new tech (like 2D vs CGI)! I especially liked how you mentioned taking reference from live-action when making 2D movies- that makes so much sense. Thank you so much for making this video! Your words are invaluable.
2D did get essentially cut out by 3D though. So many people who studied 2D in college were in much worse positions than they had been in years.
After making the critically acclaimed Tangled, Disney has NEVER produced a fully animated 2D movie.
@@El-de6njBruh forgot Animes where almost all are 2D
As great as this was and how well done it is, I can see the benefits of the ai used as a tool to help animation … However studios in charge of this would gut a lot of the animators out the industry all they need is a group of people that can change the game … and it looks like they found em… this video does good but it’s done more to harm
@iDoArtFR firstly anime artists get paid next to nothing, secondly a lot of 3D is going on in anime now, for the same reasons: cheaper and faster. When I started my vfx degree my tutor told us a story about the disney effects artist who hand drew the magic effects for cinderella and such, he sought after by the industry because he was the best, but gradually lost jobs when digital came in. Dont know how dramaticised the story is but that IS the way the industry, with every new tech there are bound to be jobs that are effected. Oil painting hasn't died but no one oil paints family portraits anymore while that's what a large portions of artist made a living off of back in the day. AI might not replace artists, but artists who know how to utilixe AI in their work flow to speed things up will replace artists who have a stick in their but about AI. This is the industry after all, every second saved is a penny more.
It's not surprising the most experienced artists don't feel insecure about AI art
Love his enthusiasm for the medium and also drawing the parallels to the creators input
Coming from an animation industry veteran such as yourself, it is nice to see a based take on this current set of tools developing. Totally agree, it is the bad stories and bad management that does greater harm to animators and the industry as a whole than any new tools being introduced. Thanks for your thoughts!
He made a good point, Corridor are artists and it shows. They just used a different tool to bring a grad idea to life. Let's not forget this Ai couldnt generate the whole thing alone, they did a looot of story board, filmed the whole thing and added some vfx on top.
Obviously. Problem of modern art is rarely the quality of animation and so on these days. It's almost always the bad story and characters regarding the product and internally for sure also the management, though from the outside rarely see this of course without the impact on the product (when for example writers are replaced or important scenes have to be cut, because too much time was wasted for what reason ever).
Spot on
@@miriamweller812 Obviously. Like why did you comment this? It's so obvious.
Stories and plots haven't been important for a long long time. There's too much concentration on the spectacle, and no attention paid to the plot or story.
Frankly, I prefer audio tales at this point. Go look up MindWebs - I have a set of very pristine copies, I need to post them, but not to this site.
Your calmness and interest as you approached the topic is so refreshing. Thank you for putting this video out there without the immediate air of negativity that so many people have brought, while still agreeing that AI taking from other people's art and work is wrong.
Your take, and approach, and overall attitude towards the topic is so refreshing and honestly relieving. Thank you, sir.
Thank you so much!
How do you feel about Disney now? About their LGBTQ stories that only please the 2% minority of the population. Most people love traditional love family and values i don't understand why current Disney can't see that. Japan understands that if you give the audience what they want they(audience) will give you money.
@@candicemceady308 China too...but the Chinese market is unfortunatly racist
@@candicemceady308 that's so.... sad. for so long disney delivered stories about anthropomorphic animals and we all still related to them, but now you're unable to connect and/or understand stories about human beings who happen to like someone from the same gender? it must be so sad to live with this much bitterness in your heart
Same thoughts!
i'm a very hobbyist/casual artist, but i think with ai art, i use it more for inspiration than actually using it for anything prominent. like i use ai art to help with ideas on how to construct a creature or something to that effect. i've seen some people use ai art and just be like 'yep i did that' and it's wild. like bro...........
Exactly Ai is a tool I've used it for inspiration with my own works. In the same way one would use photos, 3D, etc it's a tool.
That’s exactly what I have used it for too! :)
I'm not an animator! but I'm a graphic designer and video editor for over 13 years now and I love how open minded and curious you are to see how you could combine your art and skills
with the new technology and that's what I did as a graphic designer but I see a lot of my "traditional" fellow graphic designers feel threatened or dissing on the AI and digital art saying it
doesn't have the creativity or the human soul in it etc. but I always remind them that as a graphic designer we took so many stuff from people like you and digitalized it! and we still need
people with skills like you and we can't be hypocrites or two faced because we kinda did the same thing by digitalizing what you guys do in real life and we tried to mimic it on programs
so it's refreshing to see people like you who share the same confidant into not being threatened that much by the new ideas and how the world change because we're sure of our skills
and how it's unique and it depends on what kind of product the companies or individuals want and having AI doesn't really mean erasing animators or graphic designer it's just a new method!
And all respect to all the work you did and keep doing you made my childhood so magical and so many kids around the world too so thank you ❤
@Asturev
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I wish I was as possitive as you. but three of my areas have been completly taken by ai (clients wont call me anyore) book cover art, concept art illustrations. Logos and branding are also being replaced with the new adobe create a logo ai thing in illustrator. so im here im my last hundred dollars in my bank thinking about moving to anything that isnt creative. good luck
@@Asturev I'm so sorry for that. I get it because most people want the cheaper and don't get how important to have someone like you paying attention to every small detail to make their book covers or any project they want look great and unique. I really feel you as a fellow designer and that's why I sadly took the designing world as a hobby lately and made sure my income comes from another area. I really wish you the best and I can't tell you what to do or what's best but I hope if it's possible that even if you do any work that doesn't require being creative that you won't lose interest in designing because we both know no matter how great the AI today or tomorrow it's way far than being as creative as you and they all still have their issues and people who wants to get a finished product they use more than 3 or 4 AIs and most of them not free to get a finished product because some fail at making words and letters and some fail at blending and showing realistic lights or styles etc. Maybe it's just the hype. If I want a product and wasn't a designer myself I won't put my fate in the hands of Ai at all I'll make sure to have the best unique design from people like you. I'm so sorry my words were towards people I know in real life they still got clients but they're being extra insecure and losing hope while they have people who still come back to them and trust in their work.
I love your point of using one's own style in the AI. It could be used in such a wonderful way for animators to help them save time. With great power comes great responsibility
@@mazajp3507 Name a single company that does 90s style of anime in 2020s.
@@Laerei there several local companies use the old style but it for ads tho.
@@mazajp3507 they simply did this as a thought experiment, to see if it was possible. They used the skills they did have, which drawing isn’t one of them, to make this happen. They clearly have the intention and put in use for people to apply their own style in drawings to make references for AI.
@@mazajp3507 theyve stated the reason why they did it as a proof of concept and because they dont want to sink in tons of money into something that may not even work, they’ve mentioned going forward theyd want to hire artists to make the images on which they train the AI
Except people would probably just use other people's style instead
Aaron, I want to tell you that your work is inspiring me for many years now, as a 3D character artist all the references that you gather and the knowledge that you share is such a good material and references. Please never stop to do what you do, you and your team's work is so valuable for us and the generations to come.
I really hope that as artists, we will keep have fun doing what we love to do, working our fundamentals, and making good pieces made by human hands, with meaning.
Thanks so much !
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He didn't go on an insane rant about how special artists and their artworks are because of their "soul". That already makes him smarter and humbler than 90% of artists whining on the internet.
@@randomvideoboy1 You have no life, do you.
I agree, ai will never replace animators because somebody has to train that ai. This is simply a tool that can speed up processes which to me as a viewer is great news. Animation is expensive and time consuming, so if anything reduces those costs that will simply increase the amount of animations produced. Reducing the cost means that it is less risky and that more people will be able to create their own shows. I also hope that it might eliminate the crunch from the anime industry.
Hm if you look at the music-industry, simply increasing the amount of output can result in total oversaturation of the market. I think that animation is already oversaturated.
This.
Thank you for your perspective as an industry veteran and your historical references. It was a fantastic contrast to the many emotional responses to the Corridor video. I learned something about the animation process and the context in which certain techniques are used.
I think the historical perspective is definitely helpful. I also think that it's important to recognize that there's no rule that says that we can't get more animated material in the future. This could massively cut the cost of high quality animation and with a cut in costs the material could be more targeted. Part of why it's relatively limited is that it's very expensive, even with the computing technology we currently have to speed things up. IIRC, South Park, the animated program with arguably the simplest animation style to animate is even being done digitally these days and I'd expect that they'd be one of the first to be able to be animated via ML technology just because of how simple the style is and how many of the pieces are simply just moved around the screen.
As an animator, I’m really happy you made a video about it. Hearing your perspective is comforting.
I appreciated your take on this, you didn't come at this with hostility, mentioned the ethical concerns, and acknowledged that Corridor are artists. So many artists didn't engage with the making of, minimized Corridor's efforts, and then bashed the video. I'll definitely point people to your video as an example of a balanced perspective of ai usage within the arts.
He didn't go on an insane rant about how special artists and their artworks are because of their "soul". That already makes him smarter and humbler than 90% of artists whining on the internet.
@@randomvideoboy1 They should be ranting, It is unethical.
Was so annoyed seeing people discredit them and bash there work. We all know the concerns but this is very cool concept.
100%. What really drove the point home to me was his anecdote of the similar shift he experienced in the 90s and doing digital art. I went through a similar process back then when I was younger. I didn't think I'd be doing art digitally but have been a 3D Artist for well over a decade now. And if I am being completely honest, I wish I had adopted it sooner. Technology will always evolve and the best one can do is learn more and embrace it where possible. It is merely a tool. Are there concerns regarding its use? Of course and we SHOULD talk about it and address it. But dismissing it would be the same mistake as many did with digital art in the 90s.
I bet far less people would have bashed them if they didn't steal a ton of frames to train their model
You’re not obsolete, you guys are legend and remember that whatever you see this Ai is doing, it learned all of it from your works.
Legend means nothing when it comes to profits. You'll find out.
@@spartanastas5560 exactly.
artisans of all sorts still exist in some small quantity but it's hobby now rather than work now since machines can create work that's 90% the quality of the best artisans while also doing it much much faster
@@spartanastas5560 It does when those profit are taken from people who want it from the legends.
@@user-pt5cl2ro6f AI will search to get rid of the most inefficient part of it’s process… what do you think that is? If you said humanity, you get a gold star.
Incredible breakdown and analysis. Very informative to hear the thoughts of someone who has been in the industry for so long.
Cameras didn't replace Painters is a BRILLIANT summary of this take -- I love the corridor crew and I am glad you reacted to it. Thanks man!
No it isn't, and it also isn't new or original. Everyone's been saying it since AI art became mainstream. The reality is that photography created a new medium for a different purpose. AI is not a new tool for artists to use, it is a replacement for artists - and it will become a replacement for so many other jobs in the future. And all of this just to further cheapen things for big companies to make even bigger profits while the common man suffers. Idiots, all of you.
Glad you enjoyed it
gonna be honest the comparison of ai art and camera situation isn’t a good comparison since they don’t cover potential abuse and usage of others work without consent for machine training and other issues. But regardless I also don’t think it will completely kill art. Hell the people who are hired for ai art jobs will probably be artists themselves. Even then there will be people who do art for the sake of it. Regardless as it stands with what is currently going on right now ai art will cost a lot of jobs. Still the potential for ai and creativity is there
The thing is: nothing new is being made with AI art. It is literally an AI taking other people's work (btw Corridor Digital straight up stole the art for this video) and reproducing their style. With AI, originality is further kicked into the dirt
In terms of animation i still don't know. But as Concept Artists for Games and RPG's. I saw a INSANE difference in demand after the IA became something popular beetween "normies".
I had a full schedule for the last 3 years. But in the last 2 months, tha majority of clients just vanished. The one's that i'm getting i'm just making deals for the half of the price. In other hand, a couple of hours ago a fellow said to me that for him everything is awesome! Hes doing 10 comm per day with AI generated for Anime fans, youtubers, thumbnails and so on.
So... i don't now. I think that big names like Aaron, and people that are already stablished on the industry, will not make big difference. But at least for the majority of the mid tier fanbase and curriculum, without contacts or too much followers. They will be just crushed.
Because this guys are trying to pick the clients that don't care too much about quality or the name of the artist. They just want speed and good price. :(
I'm a little bit hopeless.
I am so sorry that is happening to you. It’s so unfair…. I would call AI commissions stealing honestly. They just put a few words in and then they are done. But those images are just pieces of real artists combined.
I also heard people are seeking legal action? I saw it on an Instagram post. I hope it’s real.
Basically the makers of the AI thing are saying they stole from them too. Cause they used their program to get profit of off. I don’t know how to explain it further cause I am bad at it ;0;
Yeah, this is why it's bad when "AI artists" just use other people's pieces for profit. Like Aaron said, it's fine when you create a style yourself, and then use an algorithm to create images, but not when you use art from other people without their consent. I'm sorry to hear about your situation, it's definitely not right.
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Just one another thing. On the video Aaron said that he was worry with Digital Art and 3D animation when came. But that after years made the industry have more jobs and so on. True.... but.
The same Disney that he worked for after a couple of sucess with the Pixar 3-D animation movies, just SHUT DOWN entire traditional animation studios? The things that are the fundations of the company?
And hundreds of traditional artists losed they jobs?
Just look how still today Disney is making TONS of "remakes" of the old animations. They could done sequences, a new high budged Aladdin 2D animation. I'm pretty sure that people should love much more than all of this "real life" 3D remakes.
After the 3D techonology became popular. You just see 2d animations on Indies productions like Klaus, and Japanese anime (and far as i know, the work envyroment, scheduled and how much money they do) dind't get better in the last years.
In fact the situation of talanted japanese artists is insane. This talk about "Technology will make your job 3x easye" is a two hand way - because in the other hand, you have to work 3x more, making less money. Because with techonoly assistence. and the beautiful word "democratization", make everyone beign able to make - not with the same quality. But who cares right? The majority of the industry is much more about time and price.
@@RicardoMango we’re better off making our own animation movies at this point. I think that’s gonna happen. Real artists making their own companies and producing art through there. I lost my faith in Disney a long time ago. I love dreamworks but they are also making a ‘real life’ remake of httyd.
Great take on this Aaron. Looking forward for more amazing creations and more adventures!
Seeing this I think of the old Roto-scoping and came to think of Robo-scoping.
Love hearing from an industry professional. Thank you for doing this!
mee too
It truly was a disservice.
a lot more insight than hearing from some random twitter user who uses their free time to complain online about everything they can and demean others
Coming from one of the OGs of traditional animation, your take on this is really refreshing. With all the absurdly polarized opinions about Corridor’s latest experiment (lovers and haters alike), i enjoyed hearing your open minded, and still traditionally grounded, impressions. Hope to see more ‘reacts’ as this technology evolves ever faster and in ways we can hardly imagine yet.
btw, i love the idea of animating hand drawn and then applying color and light with this technology, which is likely already a real possibility, especially with “controlnet” conditioning and other advancements rolling out almost weekly now.
100% I just wrote a very similar comment. there's been so much angst and anxiety in these comment sections. And I feel like most of it is coming from people who one way or another were never going to truly embark on their journey as a creative. If it wasn't this, it would've been something else blamed for holding them back. If there's an intention and a purpose, it is art. everything that's came before you is a tool. do as you will with that.if this particular process isn't for you, all respect honestly. I understand. but undercutting or pretending like we aren't witnessing new innovations in real time isn't going to do anything for you besides boxing yourself out from opportunities that haven't even manifested itself yet. Super interested to see where we go from here.
They kind of did this in klaus with a lighting engine called klas. It's more manual though
Don't be misled by this guy's pink-colored vision of the future...
He claims: this is not a threat for the animators (and other artists), and that is wrong, because AI is not a tool for an animator to use, it is a replacement. It allows someone with ZERO skills to do something that you learned how to master after years of practice. Animators will be replaced, as there's currently work on AI animation underway.
This will create more jobs: false. Studios will rely on less people to do more tasks. It would allow them to cut expenses.
It boosts the budgets: totally wrong, it lowers all salaries. It makes artists discardable. Why salaries are higher now? Well, there's something called inflation, you know.
I'm starting to believe this guy got paid by Corridor. All my colleagues, renown animators and concept artists share the same concern, a completely different view from these "honest opinions".
@@luisse9011 new tech always was and is always going to be a threat. and on the other side of that coin regarding "big corp, greedy studios & big tech" is that the landscape is really going to be shaped and innovated by the millions of new artists and the networks that they create by being able to skillfully, tastefully, ethically, and creatively apply this tech. the opportunities they create from it.The demand for new skills and content they create. The new companies that will arise from that. There are so many solutions I can see as far as artists being able to create, monetize, and license custom ai data sets to sell to other artists. The tech is still very niche and isn't as easy as pressing a button. The ones who ethically and creatively innovate systematic solutions that can be used across the entire landscape will be the ones who win. the ones who accept reality, understand their time and place as an artist, and focus on solutions to the problem. That's how it has always been and that's how it will always be, period. Or just withdraw from the field entirely or just make the art that makes you happy. Its your art. However you go about it is your business. But your validation and expertise and experience isn't forged at the expense of the tools that the next artist chooses to use.
yes I haven't thought of using animation to add in shading... that could seriously improve some anime where less detail is required to make fight scenes more smooth, they could add in more detail with Ai
Love your take on this, it's so refreshing here.
There are multiple AI methods to shade flat animation. I'm sure other comments have gone into various tools, but I'll note EBSynth where you'd manually shade a single frame of the shot and let the AI do the rest.
I have mixed feelings about Corridor's work here. I love the end result, and it was produced with so much love and attention to detail for something so 98% spot on to anime (only the micromovment giving it away) that you almost have to love it.
Except they did build their style model from screen grabs of a specific film so they DID use the work of others, without permission to build their final look.
And I'm a huge fan of Corridor - I love another video they did where they trained the AI on their faces to use themselves as characters.
Yet in that same video they are using specific artists' names as stylistic prompts - the names of artists who have spoken out against their work being scraped as training data.
So it's a complex issue. Corridor has managed to produce the best of AI assisted tools - innovating a new process and producing something with true love of the genre - while committing the most egregious sin of AI - easy theft of another's work or style - all in the same video.
But, dammit, Paper, Rock, Cross Blades was really freaking good!
AI WILL cost jobs. Not all of them but a significant portion. I'm a freelancer, I lost a few clients to AI. Very small 1-5 person companies, so I understand that my small fees add up ($100/page), but losing those 20-30 pages a year adds up. Hell, my computer fried and I had to replace it. The lost work would have bought my new PC. I have a friend at a subdivision of Disney interactive who is fighting to keep his B-team. 15 artists his division may replace with AI.
I do love the new tools. They enable more people to express their artistic vision faster, cheaper etc, but it also raises the barrier of entry for paid gigs.
Note the average Broadway orchestra was 50 people before 1980. Now it's 20 with a lot of the work coming from synths, samplers and prerecorded elements. The digital tools didn't kill the musician's industry, but it cut the available jobs in half. This is what AI will do and do quickly.
AI will be used for concept art to quickly generate a few hundred images the art director will cull then pass off to human artists to refine, but it'll be a smaller pool of artists because the AI is going to do the initial stages.
This isn't speculation. This is fact. Again my buddy is fighting to save 15 jobs. It's the concept artist team. The production team is safe (for now).
I'd have zero problem with any of this if we weren't stuck in a millennia old system of work for tokens for food and shelter. And, as stated above, my projected income for 2023 dropped by $3000 ish because of an AI. That's a measurable chunk of income.
Heck, "The Black Cauldron" lists 222 people in the animation dept (on IMDB) while the 2011 Winnie the Pooh had 111. Then again, Beauty and the Beast had 318.
Anyways, loved your discussion and enthusiasm. I wish to share it unreservedly, but do have certain reservations, which would be fixed if we could overcome the inertia of our current basis of economics and find something better.
If I knew they used certain style from something I wouldn’t care cause it’s just being angry over nothing
Unless those people were apart of that studio I just see this as being twitter angry
Thank you for your insight. I'm honestly so scared that ai will put millions of people out of work. What is society going to do next? As you say we live in a work for tokens society. A lot of people are so pro AI that "anything that can be automated should". Well how are millions of people going to live without jobs? I'm scared to know the answer but I want to know if there's a solution to avoiding this grim future....
"The digital tools didn't kill the musician's industry, but it cut the available jobs in half." - Thats just not true? Sure it reduced the employees needed for one company or where ever they were needed, but it didn't cut the available jobs in half, not even close. It just created a bigger market overall, because it was much more available for everbody.
@@Tudas Tell that to anyone who isn't a synth/sampler jockey.
You can't own a style so there is nothing wrong with training AI on a specific style. The reference pictures aren't kept in memory anymore than an artist keeps in memory his references. Maybe even less actually.
Honestly, the best take on AI animation I have seen. I love how open minded you are Aaron, in which many people aren't. I never thought of the time when in the 90s, the change from hand drawn to digitization, as I have no idea how anything of how animations gets created.
@Tree AI and technology has trivilized many jobs. Art has always been on the fringes of society while appreciated the idea of making a profit from your talent has always been very dubious. I have a natural talent for story writing and drawing. Does it upset me that people with no ability to draw could potentially make art that would take me ages to make with a click of a button. Naturally it does I can't say it doesn't. But their is a limitation to this technology something which cannot penetrate creativity. That said for projects like this that can use that technology in clever ways all the power to them! I mean they still need to capture the frames to make the animation and edit it all together. It's not gonna replace animators... if anything might make their job easier?
„As I have no idea how anything of how animations gets created“ if you have no freaking clue, then why open your mouth?
@@NotTheWheel Art isn’t a natural talent, so tired of people saying that. It‘s all about learning and it‘s a job like everything else. Nobody is gifted, not even you
@@gondoravalon7540 what are you responding to, exactly?
of course he is open minded, he being grifting for the current thing for years and also he has an acomplished life already so I doubt he really cares for the ones to come, AI is a nefarious invention for thoose who are aspiring artist and denying it is just being dishonest for virtue points
Wow! I always knew that you are at the top end of your profession, talent-wise, Aaron but I’ve now acquired a new appreciation for your intelligence and your understanding of the ongoing evolution of the field of Animation. I think that your assessment of the ongoing crisis caused by the booming AI development and its threatening effect on 2D/3D animators is spot on. Great feedback from a highly qualified professional. Much respect sir! 🤟🏻
Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words.
@@AaronBlaiseArt Please, keep sharing your knowledge, experience and encouragement to the upcoming animators. I’ve got a twenty year old daughter who will soon be facing this crowded world of Animation and words of wisdom from someone who’s been there and done it all are always precious. Thanks again for sharing your enthusiasm. God bless you! 🫡
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Wholeheartedly agree
This is why he was so generous. He wanted praise - and He didn't want to be called an old man that just didn't like technology.
The fact is, this is so very different than the stuff he noted in his response vid. NO - your model sheets at Disney are NOT the same as training an AI model for a style. It's just not the same thing. Across the board, the comparisons were not really that valid.
There have been MANY MANY technological advancements that have aided artists, and cut out much of the ....well, the technical difficulty.
Ai doing the aesthetic for you - is not applicable to the past.
It's not good.
It's not "just like we did at Disney" - and "democratizing talent" will live on as one of the more hostile things said towards our profession for a long long long time to come.
Some want to expand their talent and develop skill - other people want to find a way around it.
I find one way more in touch with art and humanity that the other. And I am a high tech guy covered in gadgets and an early adopter of any tech I can grab. But this is not good for art or artists or for the culture at large.
It's not a pen going to stylus. And I'm not going to be afraid to say so - even if people who don't know me will pull out the trusty tried and true "you're just afraid of tech progress" horse crap.
Much love ! You are always inspiring ! Thanks for the wisdom
Love your knowledge and perspective.
Corridor Crew are artists themselves -- their sense of film making was also important in making this animation work well. It's easy to say that "AI" did all the work but there was a lot of human work done here too. They even talk about on their show about how this technology can use a few concept shots and use that style to inform the rest of the film. It's not like the average person can easily just enter a single prompt to make a full movie. Animators are still safe! This is a great tool if used correctly
it still requires an artist's sensibility to make good art - it's just a helpful tool, like many others before it.
the only "reasonable" complaint I hear about it is when it comes not to art, but to mass produced stuff. the owner of your local mattress store decides he wants an animated advertisement, instead of hiring an animator, he goes on to try out some prompts and comes up with .. err... something. probably a very crappy ad would have come out of it either way, but this way, an animator "lost a job". not a good job, probably not a well paid or satisfying job, but they did lose the chance to earn a few bucks.
I would still argue that's for the best. bad animators would just look for another career, good animators are now worth a premium.
@@edumazieri From my own experience, the ones who will just use AI are the ones who were never going to reach out to a proper animator and pay them anyway. Either they'd do the "It's for exposure!" or hire some teenager within their family or a friend of a friend for free/low pay. It's like when I did film and TV. You'd get people reach out with you that they need you to film an AD for their store. But they'd refuse to pay or say "Well I can do it cheaper myself" and just churn out the worst advert known to man. It might seem like you lost a job but in reality, there was never a job worth working in the first place.
@@nightbird316 totally. and that's not even considering the actual point. like with other tools, artists can use it to do things even better. I've seen quite a number of animators super excited about not having to do some of the most manual boring parts of the work.
@@edumazieri Yeah, when I moved over to animation, my animator tutor was SUPER big on anything that could cut corners. Their motto was "Do you like having hands and wrists that don't hurt? Cut as many corners as you can." So we learnt to do things like when to trace or paint over references to when to not fully animate an animated scene or character. I haven't talked to my tutor in a while but given she was so big on keeping the health of new animators for as long as possible, it's hard for me to imagine she wouldn't be excited about using AI as a tool to better animators as a whole.
@@nightbird316 This will also push the customers with more sense in an artists direction. Sometimes they need to see how bad things can be to know the difference.
Great take all around. Of course by itself AI is just a tool. The real problem is that the investors that ultimately control animation studios always want to maximize profit by any means. Then to make that profit they replace certain roles with AI. We're already seeing this happen with 2D background artists in a lot of cases. I don't think it'll completely bar human artists from the industry, but it will absolutely make it more difficult for more junior artists starting out. I think the anger toward AI is understandable from the artists point of view. It's a valid emotional response from people who objectively see things getting worse for them. For example, a task that may have required a small team in the past may be reduced to one artist using AI tools.
That means more pressure on big animation studios from solo animators a small teams. Either they should come up with something new or just shut down and leave this industry to small companies.
yeah but if AI becomes that advanced there also wont be any studios anymore if it can all be done by one person.
@@angosalvo5734 Some indrustries makes too much money anyway. Transfer of players in soccer can cost 50-100 MILIONS!! I find all so..uhm.. appaling.
100 milion could have been good elsewere
The way it was developed isnt making it a tool, but a poor attempt at replacing.
@@Galimah, sports and creating intellectual properties are not remotely similar.
I just love and appreciate your consistent positivity
Excellent video on a topic I'm very interested in. The most honest and well-rounded reviews of emerging A.I. art that I've watched.
now THIS is what all react videos should be like! You balanced the source content and your own content beautifully - your expertise and thoughts kept me here till the end, and since you cut and limited the source video, now it's time to go enjoy it fully on the Corridor Crew channel! Fair use at its best! Subbed, good sir.
yeah this is an amazing video. It's how a reaction video should be. Love that he is being positive.
Ai is still theft. Period.
It's a disservice. It candy coats what is actually going on. A.I. is NOT a tool, but a replacement of the creative artist. A Big Corps dream. To cut out the "middle man". The Creative.
@@MATTCOSSIN Maybe, but it definitely is a way where one creative storyteller with drawing, design, film, and tech skills can create something amazing all alone. Cry all you want about it, but you cannot stop it. In no way am I saying I want this change, but you gotta see the positive in it, because it's here...
@Serge Donaldson , the single creative person having the initiative to create will dwindle in the years to come. It'll be Corps creating Ads and Propaganda.
The desire to create will be next to nothing. That's the reality that people don't want to address.
Cry all you want.
Every word is true. Thanks so much, Aaron! And also, thanks for each and every drawing!
He's being a genuine Granddad to us, man I have tears
Klaus was a beautiful mix of computer and hand drawn animation. This is more like a shader filter pass. Even in anime, they make heavy use of computer but when it’s character nothing beats the sensibility of hand drawn characters. For hard surfaces and FX, CG is very good at.
19:10 There has already been an AI program that is able to generate shadows, lighting and frames from just one Keyframe Painting(Depending how complex the movement is, you'll need more) It's called EBsynth and I believe they even used it in Amazon Prime's Undone which is also rotoscoped but to a whole other level. It also doesn't steal, it requires the artist to draw the keyframes perfectly matching one frame of the animation, in order for it to generate the other frames.
Yeah EBsynth is cool. So is upscaling.
@@chuchu5946 Klaus used mostly vector masks, and morphs to do the shadows. It's a very manual process, Not Ai. You can quickly find a making of video here in youtube: watch?v=2XZbYNCjmqo
@Kaleo Mendes Im sorry, I thought I watch a document some where. I miss remembered.
Absolutely fabulous video! Couldn't agree with you more!
It’s soo cool hearing your perspective on this!!
Also thank you for all the hard work you put into creating the Disney classics that I loved growing up. I really feel the entertainment we consume growing up and throughout our life plays a part in shaping who we become as individuals. ❤
I’m trying to learn how to 3D animate. I’ve also bought many of your courses bc realistically, for things to look good, you need to understand things like color, natural movements, LIGHT…God how I struggle with lighting.
I kinda see 3D animation as more of puppetry than animation though.
Funny you say that. There are companies working on creating 3D rigs for VR so that you can move 3D character models in VR Space just like a puppet. In theory that would let an old school guy like me more easily do 3D animation
3D animations is more puppetry than animation, this is not even an opinion
@@zephyrr108 Me too friend, i have thought so for years aswell
@@adityasajeev3282 How are you defining animation then? Because by this logic wouldn’t that mean only drawing counts?
Oh if you haven't checked him out I'd recommend Doodley he has a couple of good videos on how to 3D animate smoothly.
You are really optimistic thinking that now artists could be able to introduce stuff like shadows into their work, but the way this technology is moving, you won't get to work on the fun creative part, your job will be to do clean up and fix AI inconsistencies, re-draw hands and eyes.
Well, YOU won't, you are Aaron Blaise, you have a great career and your name is well know in the industry, but this is the future for young aspiring animators and artists in general.
Artists are loud about AI not because they want the technology gone, but because they want regulations to be put in place, and for ethical models to be the only way forward.
We'd love to embrace it as a tool, but that can't happen right now, and that is not the aim of this tech either. The aim for this technology as it stands right now is not to aid artists but to replace them. And of course it won't ever succeed in replacing artists, but it will certainly hurt them. It has the real potential of devaluing their work, causing even worse working conditions and payment.
It's not about being against "cheating" or "lazy shortcuts", it's about making your voice heard, making sure your consent matters. These people are not training their music models with copyrighted music, they are not telling musicians that they can opt out if they want. They are being very careful, and creating an ethical music model, why couldn't they do the same with their image model?
The AI backlash is precisely to make sure the same complaints you've shared are addressed, and to ensure it can work the way you envision.
You make some solid points and I agree with them. Especially regarding creating ethical models and putting transparent systems in place.
Absolutely artists need to have a voice in this future and we will.
At the same time we will never stop technology from existing. So rather than just recoiling and being reactive I think as artists this might create NEW opportunities that we haven’t even thought of yet.
@@AaronBlaiseArt Well, artists do see the opportunities - but many artists also (rightfully) refuse to use any model that has been trained unethically (that is to say, using pictures as input without any consent from the authors). Unfortunately at this time 100% of the image-generation tech out there uses such unethically sourced models.
Put differenly : at this time, anyone in favor of the tech in its current state is unknowingly or knowingly in favor of copyright infringement at worst, or unethical practices at best.
Now there are very interesting discussions to be had about the potential of this tech when using open-source imagery ; also, it would be less of a problem in general if it was *only* able to do inbetweening. But at this time these subtleties are mostly besides the point really ...
So happy to see you react with a open mind! I’ve enjoyed your classes as well as Corridor’s videos for several years now. You’re right,their approach is really about experimenting with new tools to express their creativity.
This artist is great. He must be phenomenal what he does. Complete confidence, no defensiveness looking at this new technology. Subscribed.
My friend didn’t believe me when I said they had to use source pictures/ prompts- he thought the ai just came up with this on its own. Smh.🤨
soon it will be able to do that too
Even after watching the video, i cannot answer only one question. What if I want just to draw. Not to be art director or someone else. When this technology will be much cheaper to use - where the artist who wants to draw himself, will find a job, or find sponsorship?
@@waffletimecat yah and the modle they used looks to be stable diffusion 1 and that one is trained on 5.8 billion images and artworks.
They had to train it off of Vampire Hunter D.
@@waffletimecat that's not machine learning 101, that's physics. Everything requires information/data, even humans.
My favorite era/look of animation was when hand drawn elements and new technologies were used together. I am also interested in any tools that can do shading for me. If anyone still has doubts, remember that if you made it with your own hands it's still going to be meaningful because it came from you.
Great analysis. Love the "Fire and Ice" reference. I was just turning someone on to that film on Thanksgiving. It's one of my all-time favorites.
Really enjoyed your insights and positive opinions on the movement of technology with the arts. You are so cool Mr. Blaise! "put some beauty into the world" is one of the eternal artists mission, isn't it?
Hearing your words as a pro that's been doing this work for longer than I've been alive is actually quite comforting. I think your point of having an artist feed the system a distinctive art style made specifically for the project you're working on, rather than just pinching it from someone else's portfolio would be the best way to go, and should be the only way to go. I think that's the biggest and most glaring issue everyone has with it: Theft. I think the greatest fear everyone has, is as you touched on: Bad Management. You know the first thing the Big Wigs will ask about this is how much they'll be able to cut costs by using it over actual people.
You're also pretty bang on the money when you say this isn't animation, but more high tech rotoscoping. The same way 3D animation isn't really animation so much as high tech digital puppetry.
The problem people don't think about when talking about only using a small set of images. It makes it much harder for AI to know what something is. All those images in the large data sets help teach the ai things like what a tree is, how light interacts with things. Every word you type into a prompt the ai needs to learn what that is from an image. The model that people download doesn't hold any images in them, it's just the understanding of what things are.
@@Velp That still doesn't make it ok to steal someone else's work.
@@Velp You made a software by directly using other's copyrighted works. End of story.
I agree with everything you said except the last comment - 3d animation is still animation even if it’s puppetry, a better comparison would be that it’s like high tech digital stop motion
@@WwZa7 It was transformed. There is literally no theft. Not ANY PIECE of ANY of the source images appear in the final product. Not one pixel. You should look into how the technology actually works.
This is by far my favorite take on this animation method.
It just works!
Because you're likely another untalented tech bro who wants the go ahead to make tacky terrible work like corridor clowns.
The lighting in this video is beautiful :)
Great video also :p
Brilliant take from someone not only with the chops but with the experience of going through these sorts of paradigm shifts. Honestly, this video from 14mins onward needs to be sent to anyone that fears this technology.
Hey dude. I watched all the animation tutorials you put out back when covid started and a lot of us were home with nothing to do. I've picked up animation as a hobby now and I absolutely love it. Thanks bro!
You're so right about bad story being the biggest issue in media today. Just look at how Marvel has fallen right after the success of Endgame because they decided to turn their stories into a conveyor belt that lost all its appeal.
Been watching you since 2013 so glad to see your video blow up Aaron
Dude guys a beast of a beauty! Wholeheartedly admire this shot video! !!
Love everything about this video
Brilliant video about such a great project. It's always great to listen to an absolute professional commenting on other projects.
I'd also like to thank you, Mr. Aaron Blaise, for working on so many animations that made my childhood special.
I have no problem with Ai technology, it can be helpful for artists. My big problem is the ethics behind its use and its impact on artists. Sure, animators still don't have to deal with this being a problem for their work (yet).
But concept artists and illustrators are starting to have a rough time. Jobs that one would get, like designing a book cover/poster/commissions are getting lost to Ai images (like the poster for the Nutcracker by the San Francisco Ballet, they were very proud of it being made with Ai).
And let's not forget how they target specific artists to create models to replicate their art, sometimes for spite, other times just to mock them.
Big-name artists are safe in all this, but for the middle artist to beginners, it's going to be rough, in an already hard career path.
The last point to me makes alot of the online discourse infuriating, inevitably some idiot will say "it'll only affect the medicore artist! Good ridance!". Who is exceptional at any domain of life at the beginning? They are in essence saying beginners can pound sand, that is every single young artist.
To save a few dollars themselves and let corporations eliminate labor they are willing to burn an entire career path and form of self expression for every generation to come. On top of that we will end up as a zombifed visual culture relying on generators.
@@chinogambino9375 The relying on generators for everything will not happen because just like with mass produced music, there will always be people creating art and animations as they always have. Not only that but there are lots of people who will still support artists creating something that they enjoy.
It is more then just the product. When you get a piece of artwork you are interacting with a human person who might also be sharing how they did it. A human artist can also make detailed changes and inject their emotions and stories into the artwork. Which is something that ai art currently struggles to do.
I like AI Art and have created over 1000 images myself but there is something more fulling inside myself to actually take the time and draw and edit my own artwork. It becomes more personal. That is also something that AI Art lacks for the creator, I feel at least. That feeling of working on something for quite a while and then standing back and looking at what you created and also seeing your own growth in art too. Is a wonderful feeling.
@@AlistairWinter The problem with your argument is your two points "currently struggling to do", and "the feeling". None of those a company would really care for, especially the second point. Yes, obviously there will still be people creating art and animations, but there's so much difference between music and animations with the work process; especially time.
Music has the ability to use pure emotions, whereas visually you need to create coherency. Things such as background art are both easy for non-artists not to care about, and that's something companies are exactly looking for - to lessen time restrictions and and have less people working on a project.
Why pay background artists and such if they can pump out animations/art, have a few artists clean it up, and be even paid less since they technically didn't "create" anything for the company?
Yes, there will still be human artists around. There is a weird sense of beauty and human touch that an AI can't fully replicate. But we will suffer through it all; payment, job openings/opportunities, etc. It will not just be a change in the industry where new art students will learn AI, but older jobs will be obsolete.
I would love to be proven wrong - but seeing how so many companies and even UA-cam attempting NFTs, unless there are laws worldwide that'll be implemented for artist (which would never happen in our lifetime), large companies will try this AI art out. And the difference between NFTs and AI art is that from a perspective of a consumer, still looks great.
@@shinkinshin001119 agree with first paragraph but with the second paragraph I believe you’re wrong. The AI will be able to mimic the human ‘touch’ sooner rather than later.
One thing I find a lot of people not really paying attention to, which he mentioned in the video, is that this form isn't animation. It's live action with a filter. This means that the best parts of animation, being that you can create anything and everything, and how things not being how they would realistically be can be used as an illusion to make a more compelling animation, is completely absent in the live action version. They can't make giant robots fight without ACTUALLY FILMING giant robots fight (or miniatures and whatnot). They can't AI animate a lovecraftian horror because of the challenges with filming a lovecraftian horror, and then at the end of all that its way more expensive than hiring people to actually animate it.
Aaron Blaise seems like such an amazing people to talk with, his opinions on the technology shows how well he understands the topics, doesn't over critisize what could or not threaten his job. Have many great examples, that comes from sure, from his past experience. If I were in the field, I would have payed a crap load of money to spend a month or two working with him.
Just wanted to say thank you. As a young animator hearing about your experiences and your viewpoint its really helped to put my own mind at ease.
It's important to keep in mind that most artists on UA-cam generate income by selling courses, so their promotion of the viability of pursuing a creative career should be viewed through this lens.
I guess the question is, would you personally be ok if someone was making a 'Disney style cartoon' and they asked AI to train specifically on images of the Lion King? Because that is the same thing that Corridor did. They chose a style to train the AI on, and that was anime, specifically Vampire Hunter D. Sure they fed in the images of themselves but they still used a style over top, which wouldn't exist without Vampire Hunter D, or other anime for that matter.
It's even worse, considering the tool they used needs way more stolen data than what they already stole to function properly. What they omitted to say is that before using Vampire Hunter D artworks to generate their filter, they had to use an astronomical quantity of scraped artworks to get the style right. They did say they used VHD artworks to fine-tune the IA after all, but they didn't explain what they meant by that, which is lying by omission.
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So they’ve produced transformative media as a natural result of countering the issues of the technology and refining the ai’s art style.
@@justice8718 If you mean transformed like food, then yes, but we're talking about copyrighted and protected art here. They just omitted to say they used SD's huge databank of stolen artworks, which is the object of a massive lawsuit. They took scraped assets, didn't even mention them and put them through a glorified blender/food processor. Not only is it legally questionable, but they were dishonest about it. When I see all the theft they had to do just to produce such an ugly product, I am not impressed at all. They're overselling this technology and its capabilities and they took an ethically reprehensible shortcut. If you have to do a transformative artwork, do a collage, because at least it has the merit to show what was used, to show the intellectual aspect of your choices (instead of throwing into the mix artworks you don't even care to consider), to not take the audience for idiots and to not process the original works beyond recognition. Or use your own assets and your own inspired artworks.
@@neorock7491 Why should I even bother with making "real art" if the basics of art style, filming, costumes, lighting characters, art direction, manufactured consistencies, real actors are completley ignored here because of the artist data bank. If they aren't allowed to use a databank to create new and perfected images than I and many other "real artists" are forbidden from stealing from the best to become the best. Live action movies and real life actors/replicated shall not be in your tool set according to the words you've spoken. They too are paintings in a frame.
You guys truly don't believe any of the shit you're spitting out of your mouths, "Or use your own assets and your own inspired artworks." As a hand-drawn artist myself, I find you and others so egotistical to downplay the physical non-drawn efforts of others and their crafts. Everything done by crafters, sculptors, set designers, photographers and film crews such as Corrider is downplayed and exploited. Stolen and taken from them with replicated imagery, movements, coloring, and camera work. But when the tables finally turn to their low-budget favors, you screech and scream, then bring up "it's unfair to use our works like this." You've earned this disdain and heartlessness of the programmers, actors, and the set makers. You've stolon right from them in the very start and you're honestly surprised they will eventually imitate your imitations?
Artists didn't earn nothing, they have always been exploited and devalued by people like you. And you're surprised when there's a backlash? That they ask for guarantees and a strictly regulated use of AI generation? And who said we downplayed the work put in costumes and acting? Only you. But YOU downplay the theft of artwork, put carelessly through a fancy food processor (finally turning a studio into a real mass-production factory). You're using this backlash to justify your assholery retroactively just to make yourself feel less like shit. You know nothing of the stress artists go through in their lives. Don't even try to pretend to care, you're just a tech advertiser, you don't care about the human, artistic and ethical aspects. And I'll give you a newsflash: a human brain doesn't work like a machine, the latter of which is strictly limited by its datasets. If we delegate inspiration and referencing to a machine thinking it works like us, then we're making a terrible mistake. Us referencing styles and other works doesn't work the same way machines do: we don't mindlessly rehash and regurgitate data. The way Corridor and SD treat their "references" is pretty telling: all of this is just "data" for them to exploit, not inspiration.
Thanks for the video!!
Thanks for the insights! Very helpful!
You make a really good point about how this can actually speed up the process for animators with shadows and lighting.
You should totally do a video with Corridor Crew reacting to animated movies, especially ones you worked on.
Thanks for this refreshing perspective
your art is the type i love
I love your commentary here, it's very insightful. If you ever get the chance to be on their Animators React show that would be so cool to see!!
First time seeing your channel. Was interesting to hear from someone so clearly experienced in the field.
Nice to have your input on the ai topic. just a note, it's "A Scanner Darkly" that features Keanu Reeves. ('Waking Life" was made before)
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yep, same
Great video and well said Aaron. Big fan of your work
I really appreciate that you were able to articulate the pros and cons and concerns that people have about AI. Thank you for sharing your thoughts!
Was not expecting to see one of the artists behind beauty and the beast put out a video on ai animation lol
Your reaction to this sudden trend is a lot calmer than most people's (myself included), and while our outview is a lot more pessimistic, it is interesting to see a veteran's take on all this
I'm not really surprised. Beauty and the Beast was one of the first Disney animated films to use computer generated graphics. They did a reasonable job of getting it to fit, but it lacked some of the imperfections that you would expect from hand drawn animation. Obviously, there was a group of artists behind that, but IIRC, Aladdin was the first of their feature films to use computer graphics.
Angry over nothing go talk to your family brah
Real cool! And such a positive take
This is such a good take. I hope everyone makes it to the end to hear your take on the threat of bad stories and bad management.
Spoken like a true master of his art! Watching you work on snow bear has also inspired me to get back to learning frame animation. I learnt a lot from your 4-legged walk, trot, and run cycle courses and am animating a small piece of personal project on my own!
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Old Corridor fan, and a new fan of yours! Your insight and positivity was really enjoyable and refreshing, and made this a joy to watch. I'm not a huge animation guy, but I'm excited to see what I can learn from your stuff. Keep it up! - a new subscriber
embracing new technology that work with the same mindset and Ideas that has been around for so long. Great video and insights
Great analogy with Avatar! Loved the video and your input! I should try animation especially with procreate dreams being out.
Reaction from legendary animator like you who start animating by traditional method until now gave us an honesty in every aspect about this Ai trend. I'm totally agree with you!
15:13 agreed. but the base modle is created using 5.8 billion images without permission.... so i say they need to do it all over and do it right.
I hate that the base model was trained that way but i don't think we can 'reset' it. The model has been distributed on the internet. People already have the model in their local drive, so i think wiping that model out for a more ethically created model is impossible, unfortunately🫥
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not really it is impossible for now and it wont be of any real use when data poisoning tools become mainstream and when that happens anything made with that model will look very old and retro .
@@samankucher5117 your reply gave me a lil bit more hope on the whole situation, thanks! Guess i just have to wait and see how it goes. I tend to worry too much sometimes.
@@kullaratt.9336 good to know thank you for this conversation :)
I liked this commentary a lot! Helps see things in the right perspective and mindset.
Thanks for this perspective.
You, sir, are the model of a great professional and a great mentor. I only hope the next generation has such a level of magnanimous professionalism, spiritual generosity, and good will.
I was thinking about the shadow/lighting too! Having AI helping with Shadow generating going to such a good time saver, the reference quality would be amazing.
a lovely thoughtful insight, thank you!
I love the level-headed attitude of this man!🙌👍
3:22 "hey I used to work there"