In this video, I show you two commonly seen brushless, sensored ESCs that are budget friendly and get you up and drifting. I compare the Hobbywing XR10 Stock Spec ESC ($120: bit.ly/48ubnrb) and the Hobbywing Quicrun 10BL120 ($55: bit.ly/3SGO489). Looking to pair one of these with a budget-minded motor? I did that here: ua-cam.com/video/dVmUGfEbALY/v-deo.html
I run the 120 quick run paired with the rocket 10.5t motor. Tons of power. Down the road I will buy another kit and then spend more money on the esc and motor, but right now I’m happy with what I’m running! Great vid thanks!
Hey Troy I put a Hobbywing SCT combo in my Stampede that you recommended .. I just wanted to thank you for the recommendation.. I couldn’t be happier with it man! You have a great RC Channel!👍🏻
@@thebookofmatthew12 Max 10 SCT COMBO.. all you need is 2s battery.. thing is a beast and if I remember right it came with the perfect pinion gear for the 2wd stampede
I tried to be as budget focused as possible without losing too much in performance when I built my D5 so I went with the 10bl60 and g2 10.5 for around $90. We have a pretty cool track here in San Antonio and I do wish I had gotten a little better of an esc. I’d say the quicrun series is a step up from your rtrs and cheap kits, but something most will outgrow as they progress which works okay for me. The barrier to entry for this hobby is pretty high, and confusing at times, so having less programmability actually worked to my benefit for a while. Great video as always, I will definitely be considering the xr10 as soon as I financially recover from the noble nb4 lol
Bro where is the track In San Antonio? Coming up to SanAn next month from Hawaii and thinking bout bringing my rrx. But need to know a good 👍 shop and track to slide at lmk thoo
Great and informative video. I really appreciate the honest input you give on running the cheaper esc, instead of always saying “you have to have the best!”
@@RoadsideRC exactly, I’ve got so much invested into other genres of RC so I’m having issues dropping another $1k or more just to get “started!” When you mentioned guys running brushed motors still, you really caught my attention! Thanks again and keep up the excellent videos!
Thanks for this, it's the exact ESCs that I've been looking at. Thanks for giving attention to cheaper products rather than recommending people the most expensive ones out there.
Glad this was helpful! Yes - so many people recommend $400 ESC and motor combos - just crazy! This is a fun hobby for me...not something to go broke on!
@@RoadsideRC Yes please do continue to put out contents like these without looking at cheaper products as junk (but you do get what you paid for ofc).I come to love this channel mainly because you don't go preaching the need for high end stuff and watching your kids enjoy this hobby with you makes me envy you. For people who has a family your channel is perfect. Things you recommend now seems reasonable when you have to get it for the whole family and have fun.
And also, some people say you might be able to upgrade the firmware to a Xerun 2,1 which has the boost and turbo functionality.....Maybe you caould make a video trying to do so....
I’m just starting out I have a barn 30/60 I built a track in well chalked out a track I have the Sakura d5 chassis now I just need to practice majorly and get way better electronics wanted to learn this so bad it’s actually harder than I thought your videos help so much thank you!
Not even,am at home driftin on ma own. Well,that is when the cars working, keeps cutting out on me. Just running a tt02 clone,best results sports tuned motor, worst result armma 12tx2 but it just snapped a cvd joint,so off the road again. Really enjoy watchn your videos,thanks.
I have a Trx4 and busted installed a castle creation copperhead 10 esc and pared it with like a $35-$40 motor I found on Amazon, it was working good for like 25 minutes then it suddenly stopped going forward and backwards but the battery was fully charged, I touched the motor and it was scorching hot and it burnt me, dis this happen cuz the motor couldn’t take the voltage of the esc?
Another super helpful vid, Nice 1 RSRC! I’m a very new to drift and do it in my basement (concrete). Hobbytown near me has a carpet track and events. I go mess on the carpet, but I’m finding I want to tune to get it right on one surface first.
I have found that if you can tune and get comfortable on the slicker surface, then transitioning to a sticker surface (carpet) is easy. The other way around is HARD!
if you get the basic programming card you can tune the boost timing. Same thing applies to the cheaper (and IMO better suited for drift) 10BL60. It's just boost timing not turbo so there is no delay and ramping options but it's still there to get some extra RPM out of your motor.
Great point - that is certainly where I failed in this video. Both turbo and boost add motor timing. For a drift application, we typically put both in at WOT. This gives a huge boost/spike in wheel speed. It is very useful for the end of a long straightaway, when you need to initiate drift and you would otherwise be out of wheel speed.
Great info. I didn't know I could have used my brushed programming card! Oh well; now I have 2. You can use the LCD card on the Quicrun right? Any more features with it? Also, I guess the different batteries further makes it not exactly apples-to-apples comparison as far as the performance comparison. I'm programming my Quicrun BL120 now! appreciate your videos!
I bought 10bl60 and quicrun 13.5t and the motor runs the wrong direction in my car. The programming card can't reverse motor direction and I've been told you can't switch wires on sensored motors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Correct, you can not switch motor wires on a sensored motor. In the instructions for the ESC, does it show motor reversing? I thought I had to reverse my BL60, and I could do it. Don't look at the program card, look at the manual.
@@RoadsideRC I couldn't find anything on reversing direction. It says if it goes backwards it's not compatible with your chassis. What if you unplug the sensor wire then reverse wires? Run it as a a sensorless. Do you think that will work. Otherwise, if I can't reverse it, this motor is useless for me and I need a new one anyways. This motor is a brand new Hobbywing G2 sensored 3650 13.5t
I mounted my BL120 on my awd Tamiya TB-03 vds, cause 4wd drifting doesn’t need turbo at all. I put my XR10 pro G2 and G2s with XD10 on my heavily modified RMX 2.0 and KMW FXX 2.0 separately, except for the 6 second turbo auto cutoff protection and the drive frequency range, I can’t find any difference between this racing ESC and XD10. My way give the fake turbo to BL120 is by using a 3S battery, and set the throttle curve very flat and low to 90% travel of your trigger, than to full throttle to the end of your trigger travel, but this can only be done with some high end transmitter such as 7px or 10px. This trick also works with brushed esc.
@GunEngraver Engraving It is a mode that forces zero timing change in the ESC. Referred to as blinky because the esc led blinks to show it is in that mode.
Hi there,I have the Xerun Justock 10.5T G2.1 motor with the quicrun 10bl120 installed on my RWD car.On the motor a FTM(fixed timing) label is printed,what does it mean?Can I change the motor timings with the LED card on this motor?Or the fixed timing means it can not be changed?
It says it can take 6s on this esc Hobbywing QuicRun QR10BL120 120A Sensored Brushless ESC [HWA30125000] I seen it on eBay is that correct for that esc
Here is everything I used in my last drift build. ua-cam.com/video/n2OPLfwbv4g/v-deo.html The motor would match fine with that ESC. Since that video, the only change has been a ReveD servo.
Great way to get started! Don't worry about an ESC and motor for it. What it comes with is good. Instead, focus on the gyro, controller, and servo upgrade as a first priority.
HelloTroy! I think your name is Troy. I would like to know your opinion of my electronic set. I’m new in this drift business. I have Yokomo YD-2S chassis in stock mode. I have been thinking to buy new transmitter Futaba 4PM plus T-FHSS and Futaba RX R334SBS receiver. Reve D gyro RG-RVX, Reve D low profile programmable dåsteering servo brushless. Is there any sense to buy these together to my Yokomo? Thank you!
@@RoadsideRC Thanks! I I have watched a lot of your videos and learned a lot about RC drifting and what I need to improve my chassis. Like I said I’m new in RC drifting scene even though I'm already 45. I have been driven buggies before when I was 10-30 years old. Now I want to learn something new. Thank you very much for your answer, I aporeciate it.
I'm definiatly on the spectrum to be the best. but not so much just to be the best. i feel like saving for something you really want and will work correctly then spending extra money just to upgrade down the line.
Garage drifter. I bought an Exceed RC driftcar in 2012 which was fun but insane amount of maintenance. I plan on doing it "right" this time and got an MST RMX 2.5 that I just finished building. I was going to couple it with MST brushless and 50A esc but I am considering an 8.5T Quicrun power + esc combo. Is 8.5T appropriate for drift or sbould I stick with 10.5 or 13.5?
I would scale it back to the 10.5T spec. Main reason for that is many of the common rule sets don't allow anything under the 10.5T. The speed difference between the two should not been crazy, and 10.5T is enough to get most folks in trouble.
I got a redcat racing exp drift car which is fun and works well picked it up from summit racing dot com. For 159. It is brushed 27 turn 540 but has a nice layout for upgrades.
I 100% do NOT recommend either of these ESCs for a crawler. You will want something designed specifically for a crawler, such as this: alnk.to/6TAJT9J, or this: alnk.to/9xk6Bp2
Thank you so much for making this. You helped me to order that combo for my Sakura d5 know I’ll finally be able to get that rear spinning out in a month or so. sadly here in Ireland there’s no rc drift tracks so I just have to drift in public areas I guess. I have another question before I go do you need to have a program card?? For example turning on the brakes
Great vid. thanks for the info& was wondering what difference was with that ecs . i think that cheaper ecs would be great for a traxxas smaller truck/buggy. i dont drift but could be something i start in the future! yes i love building chassis. btw im now a subscriber
As always great video! I was going to get 10bl120 esc but I'm going to maybe go with XR10. I already (2) XR10 pro in my drift cars and bought another drift car MST FXX S (the addition is real) Not sure if you have every tried G2 Racing Gyro from or under the name Power Hobby (it's cheap). Going to try it since Futaba GYD450 is on backorder from my distributor. Thanks bro and take care
I have looked at it - and driven someone else's. I can't see what is in there to justify the price tag. I actually just bought the XR10 Pro - still lighter weight and more powerful than the XD10. I really need to get one and give it a more thorough test to see what the fuss is about.
@@RoadsideRC I was trying to decide on the 2 and I just bought the XD10 because I’m doing the purple theme. If I don’t like it I can alway sell it and get the XR10 pro. But I don’t know if you’ll need the 160/1200a 🤔. I’m pairing with with the Yokomo DX1 type r 10.5t.
That is my 1971 Chevelle! I keep meaning to do a full-blown review on it for the channel - but just find it hard to do for some reason. With all of that said, it might be up for sale. It does more dust collecting than driving anymore, and I feel it should be with someone who will truly appreciate it.
My old E Revo VXL 1/16 ESC died. I am looking for a replacement. I am contemplating the WP-16BL30 or the WP-10BL60. It seems that the 30 is the most suitable, but would like to know you guys opinion.
Nice video! So which is a good budget ESC with turbo and boost functions that you would recommend...? I tried catching up with the guys at our carpet drift track without turbo and boost and I couldn't...
I 100% promise you that turbo and boost is NOT the reason they were pulling away from you. More wheelspin does not equal more speed. Speed down a straight is all about how you come through the corner. Driving line and how you modulate the throttle is key.
@@RoadsideRC On a straight line is faster to have more grip/less wheel speed...I remember us doing some tests because they were telling me the same, but somehow after I got the turbo settings right, I became as good and could battle anyone... Bad thing is that it's been some time I haven't been there to test this again, though I remember the turbo function is pushing your car on carpet when sideways. I also remember me testing this kinda extensively 🤔
There is setup for sure. I have a video on both to help you out! Gyro: ua-cam.com/video/zwgFrJMbXk0/v-deo.html Servo: ua-cam.com/video/8d72Wlw9ecM/v-deo.html Technically, you don't HAVE to do the ReveD servo programming. Just know it is there if you want to do it.
i prefer just having fun but i would like to to keep up with the comp guys and the $1000+ builds with my mostly stock rmx and a $80 dynomite tazer combo cus it seems to any them a little
That is exactly why you don't see me build the $800 Yokomo MD chassis! It is much more satisfying to get in their doors with a Sakura D5 or Redcat RDS!
If you come back to this type of test you can turn up the turbo on the bl120 to get more wheel speed out of it to kind of match the xr10 but for a new drifter the bl120 had more control so you can maybe get away with taking the bl120 to the track
@@rcloner1895 I saw someone reference it, and then gave me a link to a video with no English spoken in it. But I've been told by a couple of people that it's possible
@@rcloner1895 I ended up getting an extreme racing ezturbo esc from one of the drift dudes for like 45$ it's just a rebranded quicrun with a modified firmware
Hi , is the quick run BL 120 am has option to set the drag brake? I try to set it up with program card like you have but only up to 9 item while in the program card drag brake is on the no 11 on the item list. Thanks again. And Merry Christmas to you bro
Thanks for the nice comment! The Max10 is a basher, non-sensored ESC. Great ESC - just non-sensored. For this application, sensored is better. Now, to be clear, I have drifted non-sensored before. If you have it laying around and it is free - go for it.
Its gonna go in a basher i just got a deal on the RTR version and it doesn’t have the temp sensor and he made that clear but looks just like the sct. no box,paperwork etc but seems to be good. I was just looking for more knowledge of these RTR versions. Thanx for the quick reply. Im taking “RC ED” UA-cam style. Lol.
@@RoadsideRC correct! It fell in water and turned off lol took it home and dried it off and it came back to life !!! Just got some conforming coating to make it waterproof!!!
I heard Turbo in boost in from my understanding that means you can basically make this car run on a Turbo in adjust the boost that is absolutely insane . 🤯
Hello Troy, greetings from Spain. Im buying components for a 1/10 scale buggy DIY. I bought a 4 poles 3660 2600 KV brushless, SL motor. I will use it on 3s. Im missing the ESC and not really sure what parameter apart from Amps( I want a 120A) can I look into in order to decide(resistance,power?). I have two hobbywing in mind: MAX10 SCT and Quicrun 10BL120. The price difference is 40 EUR, Is this really better the MAX10? I want to upgrade it in future with big tires(130mm) both will be ok for bashing fun use? The MAX10 says on specs good for monster truck the othe does not say. thanks!
Great video troy! I'm just getting back into the hobby from 30 years ago. I have a WL Toys144001 car that came with 2200 mah 25c, brushed 550 motor. I'm preparing for an upgrade my 144001 to brushless. Planning to us a 3650 - 5900kv with the Quicrun 10BL120 ESC for speed. I'm trying to match the best lipo for this setup. Are you able to recommend lipo to work with this setup? Thanks, Ed
I believe they both can, yes. Honestly though, if you are going sensorless, you should just get one of the EZRUN ESCs from Hobbywing, as they are cheaper.
You don't get any of the benefits such as turbo and boost without being sensored. The only thing you will gain is perhaps total amps output, and you can get that cheaper elsewhere.
For a drift application? Both of these work well. Doesn't really matter the turn of the motor you are pairing them with - the characteristics you see here will be similar. FYI - for drifting, a 17.5T motor is rather slow. If you can step it up to a 10.5T you will really appreciate the difference..
@@RoadsideRC no I’m doing regular track racing and bashing around. My Xerun stock spec 3.1 just went to shit after trying to update the Firmeware so just trying to get back on the road on a budget
I put a 10bl120 in a zd 9105 kit truck along with a rocket v4 10.5 turn. This is my very first build. I have a dozen or so different cars but this is the first I’ve ever built myself. It is FAST!! I mean 😳 fast. It blew away my JLB J3 speed upgraded version with the upgraded motor. With no wheelie bar it will do a back flip set on punch mode level 3. And not even miss a beat. So for general purpose off/on road fun. Wow great combo. I think altogether motor esc servo and kit around 200 bucks. I stole it he receiver off another car so I guess you would have to add 40 bucks for that. But still at 250 this thing will do 60-70mph easily. Just wanted to put my experience out there. Thanks
Hello Jimmy, I just got the zd racing 9102 Kit(buggy). So 10BL120 ESC can handle big tires good? Im yet deciding between quicrun 120A or MAX10 SCT, 40 EUR difference, for bashing dont know if its worth it. All good for you until now?
@@cesarguerra6039 I’d go max10 or I’ve also had good luck with the Dynamite Fuse 130 because it has a great range far more easily. The 10bl120 doesn’t ever seem to hold its programming and that’s a pain in the butt. You get what you pay for and there is a reason it’s one of the cheapest escs on the market. It’s a decent esc but full of bugs. I’ve got it in 3 cars and have a lot of the same issues with all 3. Issues I’m not having with some of the other options like the 10bl150 and the SC8 which is a great esc
Hey my friend... thanks for this video! I use a toro 120 at the moment. Do you think a XR10 would be better? Second question is about the Gyro POSITION? Front, middle or rear? Does it matter or not? All the best!
Ello ello. Interesting. Didn't know this info. Am more a basher or just fun runs on the road. Not into comp, just wanna have fun without the pressure. One question, with the turbo mode U mentioned, if you buy the XR10, can you use it on turbo mode constantly? For bashing or just a play around the area with speed runs along the way
@@RoadsideRC wow great I just got it and it’s so good has Boost and everything thanks for the video!! And there’s ways to get more turning out of it? Correct
You can run a much hotter motor with the 10BL120. The XR10 Stock Spec 80A is rated only for a 13.5T off-road motor (or 10.5T on-road). The 10BL120 is rated for up to a 5.5T off-road. You would have to upgrade to an XR10 Pro to run such a hot motor which costs around $200. So if you run off-road and want a really fast motor vs boost control, etc. then consider the 10BL120. With a 5.5T motor, you may not be too interested in turbo anyway.
I don't see any reason to go for the 10bl120. If you want hobbywing the only two that make sense for drifting are the quicrun 10bl60 and the xerun xr10 stock spec. For motors I think cheap motors actually have a nicer feel for drifting because they have less magnetism and less "braking" effect off throttle. I like the rocket supersonic 10.5T. All of the drift specific electronics just feel like priced up rebranded products that don't really benefit the user.
Great video bud!! I used to race 2wd off road (on real dirt LOL) so super smooth was key. No tracks in my area now so I have just as much fun with a Rustler, X-Maxx, Kraton, Ultima, RC8B3.2e, Granite, etc just running around and bashing anywhere I can find so the $50 unit would suffice. What's best matched 10.5 turn motor for the cheaper HW ESC?
In this video, I show you two commonly seen brushless, sensored ESCs that are budget friendly and get you up and drifting. I compare the Hobbywing XR10 Stock Spec ESC ($120: bit.ly/48ubnrb) and the Hobbywing Quicrun 10BL120 ($55: bit.ly/3SGO489).
Looking to pair one of these with a budget-minded motor? I did that here: ua-cam.com/video/dVmUGfEbALY/v-deo.html
I run the 120 quick run paired with the rocket 10.5t motor. Tons of power. Down the road I will buy another kit and then spend more money on the esc and motor, but right now I’m happy with what I’m running! Great vid thanks!
Awesome! More people need to hear this - thry get pressured into spending too much $$$!
Hey Troy I put a Hobbywing SCT combo in my Stampede that you recommended .. I just wanted to thank you for the recommendation.. I couldn’t be happier with it man! You have a great RC Channel!👍🏻
GREAT! Very glad it worked out.
What was the recommendation I am looking to build another stampede
@@thebookofmatthew12 Max 10 SCT COMBO.. all you need is 2s battery.. thing is a beast and if I remember right it came with the perfect pinion gear for the 2wd stampede
I tried to be as budget focused as possible without losing too much in performance when I built my D5 so I went with the 10bl60 and g2 10.5 for around $90. We have a pretty cool track here in San Antonio and I do wish I had gotten a little better of an esc. I’d say the quicrun series is a step up from your rtrs and cheap kits, but something most will outgrow as they progress which works okay for me. The barrier to entry for this hobby is pretty high, and confusing at times, so having less programmability actually worked to my benefit for a while. Great video as always, I will definitely be considering the xr10 as soon as I financially recover from the noble nb4 lol
I agree 100%!
Sometimes, folks make this whole thing too complicated, so it is intimidating for a new person.
Bro where is the track In San Antonio? Coming up to SanAn next month from Hawaii and thinking bout bringing my rrx. But need to know a good 👍 shop and track to slide at lmk thoo
@@Time.2.Repent RCHQ and the track are both inside Rolling Oaks Mall. Definitely worth checking out!
@@Time.2.Repent ua-cam.com/video/Y2WguVVTQT4/v-deo.html
That’s my vid, fast forward to the end for shots of the track
Great and informative video. I really appreciate the honest input you give on running the cheaper esc, instead of always saying “you have to have the best!”
So much of that is out there, and I really don't understand it!
You don't need $3k to get started in drifting.
@@RoadsideRC exactly, I’ve got so much invested into other genres of RC so I’m having issues dropping another $1k or more just to get “started!” When you mentioned guys running brushed motors still, you really caught my attention! Thanks again and keep up the excellent videos!
Thanks for this, it's the exact ESCs that I've been looking at. Thanks for giving attention to cheaper products rather than recommending people the most expensive ones out there.
Glad this was helpful!
Yes - so many people recommend $400 ESC and motor combos - just crazy! This is a fun hobby for me...not something to go broke on!
@@RoadsideRC Yes please do continue to put out contents like these without looking at cheaper products as junk (but you do get what you paid for ofc).I come to love this channel mainly because you don't go preaching the need for high end stuff and watching your kids enjoy this hobby with you makes me envy you. For people who has a family your channel is perfect. Things you recommend now seems reasonable when you have to get it for the whole family and have fun.
Thank you. I really do appreciate those kind words.
@@SketchbookGuitar i use HW justock with 17.5t and i can drift on carpet or vinyl tiles no problem
thanks for the video, helped me get my head around the electronics abit more :)
Great! Glad it was helpful.
If you have more questions, fire away!
@@RoadsideRC appreciate it, Cluld I have your email if possible sir?
And also, some people say you might be able to upgrade the firmware to a Xerun 2,1 which has the boost and turbo functionality.....Maybe you caould make a video trying to do so....
I did some trying - and no luck so far.
I need to give it another shot!
You’ve definitely got my attention. I’m ordering the better esc and the lcd programming card. Thanks for the great video
Glad I could help!
Feel free to ask more questions along the way if you have them.
I’m just starting out I have a barn 30/60 I built a track in well chalked out a track I have the Sakura d5 chassis now I just need to practice majorly and get way better electronics wanted to learn this so bad it’s actually harder than I thought your videos help so much thank you!
Awesome! Glad they are helpful.
If you have any questions along the way, feel free to ask!
I love this ESC, I use it on all my 1/10 offroad buggies and some touring cars.
Not even,am at home driftin on ma own. Well,that is when the cars working, keeps cutting out on me.
Just running a tt02 clone,best results sports tuned motor, worst result armma 12tx2 but it just snapped a cvd joint,so off the road again. Really enjoy watchn your videos,thanks.
Hope you get it working soon!
again, great video!!! keep it coming mate!!
Thank you!
I have a Trx4 and busted installed a castle creation copperhead 10 esc and pared it with like a $35-$40 motor I found on Amazon, it was working good for like 25 minutes then it suddenly stopped going forward and backwards but the battery was fully charged, I touched the motor and it was scorching hot and it burnt me, dis this happen cuz the motor couldn’t take the voltage of the esc?
Sounds like that motor was not designed to work with that ESC.
I highly suggest getting a setup designed specifically for a crawler.
Great video learned tons! You have a great channel!
Thank you! I try to provide useful content!
I know this is a old video I just installed the 10bl60 and has no boost, need help with any information✨🙏✝️god bless
Correct - the 10BL60 does not have turbo or boost capability.
I do garage drifting for practice but I really enjoy the track having recently tried it. Im hoping to find a good budget combo! This is very helpful!!
Glad it was helpful! Good luck!
Another super helpful vid, Nice 1 RSRC! I’m a very new to drift and do it in my basement (concrete). Hobbytown near me has a carpet track and events. I go mess on the carpet, but I’m finding I want to tune to get it right on one surface first.
I have found that if you can tune and get comfortable on the slicker surface, then transitioning to a sticker surface (carpet) is easy. The other way around is HARD!
Hey sir troy,saya ingin bertanya,apakah menambah timing pada esc hobbywing 10bl120 akan menambah kecepatannya?
Yes!
@@RoadsideRC thank you
Just getting into the rc drifting trying to learn what all I need an what all that I bought that I need to buy better
Awesome! Let me know if you have questions.
@@RoadsideRC ok an thank you
if you get the basic programming card you can tune the boost timing. Same thing applies to the cheaper (and IMO better suited for drift) 10BL60. It's just boost timing not turbo so there is no delay and ramping options but it's still there to get some extra RPM out of your motor.
Thanks - I'll give it a shot!
Which of these esc is compatible with the OTA PROGAMADOR Hobby Wing?
The XR10 is compatible with the OTA.
the only thing is how do we know if we don't care about boost and turbo if nobody explains to us what they do?
Great point - that is certainly where I failed in this video.
Both turbo and boost add motor timing. For a drift application, we typically put both in at WOT. This gives a huge boost/spike in wheel speed. It is very useful for the end of a long straightaway, when you need to initiate drift and you would otherwise be out of wheel speed.
Great info. I didn't know I could have used my brushed programming card! Oh well; now I have 2.
You can use the LCD card on the Quicrun right? Any more features with it? Also, I guess the different batteries further makes it not exactly apples-to-apples comparison as far as the performance comparison.
I'm programming my Quicrun BL120 now! appreciate your videos!
Great! Glad this was helpful. Good luck!
FYI, the link for the HW Quicrun 120amp ESC goes to a "Xiangtat Hobby Waterproof 120A 2-3S Lipo Speed Controller Brushless ESC" instead....
Thanks for the tip. Link is updated.
Here: amzn.to/3Qf9Dc7
I bought 10bl60 and quicrun 13.5t and the motor runs the wrong direction in my car. The programming card can't reverse motor direction and I've been told you can't switch wires on sensored motors. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Correct, you can not switch motor wires on a sensored motor.
In the instructions for the ESC, does it show motor reversing? I thought I had to reverse my BL60, and I could do it.
Don't look at the program card, look at the manual.
@@RoadsideRC I couldn't find anything on reversing direction. It says if it goes backwards it's not compatible with your chassis. What if you unplug the sensor wire then reverse wires? Run it as a a sensorless. Do you think that will work. Otherwise, if I can't reverse it, this motor is useless for me and I need a new one anyways. This motor is a brand new Hobbywing G2 sensored 3650 13.5t
Yes, if you unplug the sensore wire, you should then be able to do the normal wire swap and run it.
@@RoadsideRC Thanks for your help. I will give it a shot next weekend when I have time.
I mounted my BL120 on my awd Tamiya TB-03 vds, cause 4wd drifting doesn’t need turbo at all. I put my XR10 pro G2 and G2s with XD10 on my heavily modified RMX 2.0 and KMW FXX 2.0 separately, except for the 6 second turbo auto cutoff protection and the drive frequency range, I can’t find any difference between this racing ESC and XD10. My way give the fake turbo to BL120 is by using a 3S battery, and set the throttle curve very flat and low to 90% travel of your trigger, than to full throttle to the end of your trigger travel, but this can only be done with some high end transmitter such as 7px or 10px. This trick also works with brushed esc.
Interesting idea!
Hi can you do a video how to install all of the electronics and do u need soldering for any electonics....
I have a video on the build of my Sakura D5S. It shows the install of all of the electronics.
Yes, soldering is involved.
@@RoadsideRC care to drop some links sir i would love to watch it
Subbed. Good information of products.👍👍
Thank you!
hi, i was planning on putting the 10BL120 into my 4wd slash for racing, it has a 3100kv motor, can the ESC handle that motor do you think?
Yep, it should handle it fine.
Do you have to have your ESC in "blinky" mode for your class? Check that.
@@RoadsideRC Hey, this class does not require blinky. Thank you so much for your response!! Great video!
@@RoadsideRC what is blinky mode?
@GunEngraver Engraving It is a mode that forces zero timing change in the ESC. Referred to as blinky because the esc led blinks to show it is in that mode.
Hi there,I have the Xerun Justock 10.5T G2.1 motor with the quicrun 10bl120 installed on my RWD car.On the motor a FTM(fixed timing) label is printed,what does it mean?Can I change the motor timings with the LED card on this motor?Or the fixed timing means it can not be changed?
I belive the Justock motor does not have adjustable timing on the motor physically, but you can change what you want in the ESC
It says it can take 6s on this esc Hobbywing QuicRun QR10BL120 120A Sensored Brushless ESC [HWA30125000] I seen it on eBay is that correct for that esc
I really don't think it can take 6S. Pretty sure 3S or 4S max.
What motor would best suit the cheaper esc ,also what steering servo and battery should I buy for a complete electronic list
Here is everything I used in my last drift build.
ua-cam.com/video/n2OPLfwbv4g/v-deo.html
The motor would match fine with that ESC.
Since that video, the only change has been a ReveD servo.
I have a hobby wing 90a esc. Is that okay for drifting?
90A is plenty for a drift car. It is much less about the power, and more about the control.
Which ESC is it? Is it a sensored esc?
I'm still new to drifting I have a mst rtr
Great way to get started!
Don't worry about an ESC and motor for it. What it comes with is good.
Instead, focus on the gyro, controller, and servo upgrade as a first priority.
@@RoadsideRC I have my flysky noble that I use on my drag cars and race buggies what gyro and servo should I look at getting
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/QEhS94kLJ6c/v-deo.html
do you recommend the 10bl120 with a Punisher 13.5 for drifting? picking up a motor for 15 2nd hand.
That will certainly get you started at that price!
Hi TRoy , can this esc be match to ltes say a revolver outrunner motor in a crawler.?
I believe so, but I have never personally done it.
Hi. Would you mind to share the program card setting for quicrun 10BL120. Thanks mate. #newbiedrifter
I think I left it with the stock settings. Just ensure no drag brake.
HelloTroy! I think your name is Troy.
I would like to know your opinion of my electronic set. I’m new in this drift business. I have Yokomo YD-2S chassis in stock mode. I have been thinking to buy new transmitter Futaba 4PM plus T-FHSS and Futaba RX R334SBS receiver. Reve D gyro RG-RVX, Reve D low profile programmable dåsteering servo brushless.
Is there any sense to buy these together to my Yokomo?
Thank you!
Hi Mika,
That is a great combination of parts. I like all of them!
@@RoadsideRC Thanks! I I have watched a lot of your videos and learned a lot about RC drifting and what I need to improve my chassis. Like I said I’m new in RC drifting scene even though I'm already 45. I have been driven buggies before when I was 10-30 years old. Now I want to learn something new. Thank you very much for your answer, I aporeciate it.
Is onisiki a good brand for rc drift electronics?
I don't have a lot of experience with their stuff except their gyro. I was not a fan of their gyro.
@@RoadsideRC ok thank you
What happens if I accidentally brought the 1s version..
You will need to return it.
@@RoadsideRC guess I'll have to try
Think I'm sol.. it's passed the 30 days
Ill enjoy the budget quickrun 😂. Im not going pro and just having loads of fun.
Makes sense to me!
Hobbywing XR10 Justock G3 Sensored Brushless ESC/SD G2.1 Motor Combo (10.5T).. Will it work for RC drift?
Yes!
I'm definiatly on the spectrum to be the best. but not so much just to be the best. i feel like saving for something you really want and will work correctly then spending extra money just to upgrade down the line.
Sounds good to me!
Is it possible to be a garage drifter and that guy that wants to be on top
Of course!
Garage drifter. I bought an Exceed RC driftcar in 2012 which was fun but insane amount of maintenance. I plan on doing it "right" this time and got an MST RMX 2.5 that I just finished building. I was going to couple it with MST brushless and 50A esc but I am considering an 8.5T Quicrun power + esc combo. Is 8.5T appropriate for drift or sbould I stick with 10.5 or 13.5?
I would scale it back to the 10.5T spec. Main reason for that is many of the common rule sets don't allow anything under the 10.5T. The speed difference between the two should not been crazy, and 10.5T is enough to get most folks in trouble.
Noce video👍 can you share the esc 10bl120 settings on your program card? I am using it also on my rwd drift rc.
I believe you saw it all in the video.
No drag brake
20 deg timing
I think that is basically it.
@@RoadsideRC 😊
Thanks
what budget ready to run drift car would you recommend for 1st car?
Please search "awd vs RWD rc drift car". I made a video showing my recommendations for getting started.
@@RoadsideRC thanks totally missed it. I am checking it out!
I got a redcat racing exp drift car which is fun and works well picked it up from summit racing dot com. For 159. It is brushed 27 turn 540 but has a nice layout for upgrades.
Will the cheaper esc work on a trx4?
I 100% do NOT recommend either of these ESCs for a crawler.
You will want something designed specifically for a crawler, such as this: alnk.to/6TAJT9J, or this: alnk.to/9xk6Bp2
Thank you so much for making this. You helped me to order that combo for my Sakura d5 know I’ll finally be able to get that rear spinning out in a month or so. sadly here in Ireland
there’s no rc drift tracks so I just have to drift in public areas I guess.
I have another question before I go do you need to have a program card?? For example turning on the brakes
With the simpler ESC, you can program it through the set button.
For the XR10, I highly suggest getting the LCD program box.
@@RoadsideRC ok thanks for the information you helped me out so much with the rc hobby
I’m pairing this quicrun esc with the xerun bandit motor. Would you say it’s a good combo?
That should work great!
What's the difference between the xr10 stock spec and pro?
A bunch of $$$ and some total amperage. You don't need the pro.
Great vid. thanks for the info& was wondering what difference was with that ecs . i think that cheaper ecs would be great for a traxxas smaller truck/buggy. i dont drift but could be something i start in the future! yes i love building chassis. btw im now a subscriber
Glad this was helpful.
I have a lot of information on getting started drifting, if you ever go that route.
Nice video. Can I use my LCD program Box with my Hobbywing Quicrun-WP-10BL60? Thanks.
I hear kixed results. Some say yes, others say no.
As always great video! I was going to get 10bl120 esc but I'm going to maybe go with XR10. I already (2) XR10 pro in my drift cars and bought another drift car MST FXX S (the addition is real)
Not sure if you have every tried G2 Racing Gyro from or under the name Power Hobby (it's cheap). Going to try it since Futaba GYD450 is on backorder from my distributor. Thanks bro and take care
The XR10 is hard to beat for sure.
I tried one of the older Powerhobby gyros, haven't tried one of their newer models.
Nice video some great info
Thank you!
Would you use the bl on a no prep car with a 13.5t motor?
The BL does not have a blinky mode, if I remember correctly, so is technically illegal there.
@@RoadsideRC ahhh awesome. Thankyou very much
What do you think about the HW XD10 pro vs XR10 stock spec?
I have looked at it - and driven someone else's. I can't see what is in there to justify the price tag. I actually just bought the XR10 Pro - still lighter weight and more powerful than the XD10.
I really need to get one and give it a more thorough test to see what the fuss is about.
@@RoadsideRC I was trying to decide on the 2 and I just bought the XD10 because I’m doing the purple theme. If I don’t like it I can alway sell it and get the XR10 pro. But I don’t know if you’ll need the 160/1200a 🤔. I’m pairing with with the Yokomo DX1 type r 10.5t.
@@BSwayze It should work great! No, I don't think 160A is anywhere near necessary for drifting.
@@RoadsideRC Cool! Now I just need to get it and start practicing so I can be as good as you 😏 Great videos by they way! Keep it up.
@@BSwayze Thanks!
I have the 10BL120 and I actually kinda like it, I wish it had a boost and turbo setting but oh well. The modified 8.5t I have in it makes up for it.
Makes sense to me!
The feedback I'm going to give you is that I want that Chevy that's in your driveway while you drift in your garage.
That is my 1971 Chevelle! I keep meaning to do a full-blown review on it for the channel - but just find it hard to do for some reason.
With all of that said, it might be up for sale. It does more dust collecting than driving anymore, and I feel it should be with someone who will truly appreciate it.
Nice video, it's helpful to me, because only $50 budget
Yes, I do believe folks can drift on a budget!
Is this esc good for the 4wheel drive traxxas 4tec 2.0
Yes - they would both work well.
@@RoadsideRC ok thanks for the reply
For the hubbywing capacitors should the plastic covering be taken off?
No, it helps to protect them.
My old E Revo VXL 1/16 ESC died. I am looking for a replacement. I am contemplating the WP-16BL30 or the WP-10BL60. It seems that the 30 is the most suitable, but would like to know you guys opinion.
Yes, the 30a esc is probably the best fit. However, if you can physically fit the 10bl60 on the chassis, you will not regret the double amperage!
@@RoadsideRC Could the 60A burn the motor? Now I am tempted to buy the bigger one. 😂
Nope, no impact on the motor
@@RoadsideRC Thanks a lot!
Nice video! So which is a good budget ESC with turbo and boost functions that you would recommend...? I tried catching up with the guys at our carpet drift track without turbo and boost and I couldn't...
I 100% promise you that turbo and boost is NOT the reason they were pulling away from you.
More wheelspin does not equal more speed.
Speed down a straight is all about how you come through the corner. Driving line and how you modulate the throttle is key.
@@RoadsideRC On a straight line is faster to have more grip/less wheel speed...I remember us doing some tests because they were telling me the same, but somehow after I got the turbo settings right, I became as good and could battle anyone... Bad thing is that it's been some time I haven't been there to test this again, though I remember the turbo function is pushing your car on carpet when sideways. I also remember me testing this kinda extensively 🤔
I ordered a reved servo, gyd450 gyro, stock everything else ...
Am I gonna be able to plug and play both those parts? Or is there more involved
There is setup for sure. I have a video on both to help you out!
Gyro: ua-cam.com/video/zwgFrJMbXk0/v-deo.html
Servo: ua-cam.com/video/8d72Wlw9ecM/v-deo.html
Technically, you don't HAVE to do the ReveD servo programming. Just know it is there if you want to do it.
@@RoadsideRC ur the man!
i prefer just having fun but i would like to to keep up with the comp guys and the $1000+ builds with my mostly stock rmx and a $80 dynomite tazer combo cus it seems to any them a little
That is exactly why you don't see me build the $800 Yokomo MD chassis! It is much more satisfying to get in their doors with a Sakura D5 or Redcat RDS!
If you come back to this type of test you can turn up the turbo on the bl120 to get more wheel speed out of it to kind of match the xr10 but for a new drifter the bl120 had more control so you can maybe get away with taking the bl120 to the track
We do use the BL120 at the track all of the time. Works great, just doesn't have all of the same features as the XR10.
Is the 10BL120 also suitable for sensorless motors? I noticed you didn’t use the sensor cable.
Pretty sure I had the sensor cable in when I was driving, just didn't catch it on video.
Yes, it will also run sensorless.
@@RoadsideRC I'm new here, where does one attach the sensor cable?
Hey dude, i want to ask something, is there that hw quickrun could be program with xerun program card ?
I believe it can be used, yes.
@@RoadsideRC oke, thanks dude.
Can you update the firmware on the quicrun to hobbywing 3.0 to include boost/turbo?
Not that I am aware of.
If so - that would be AWESOME!
Did we get an answer to this ? Lol
@@rcloner1895 I saw someone reference it, and then gave me a link to a video with no English spoken in it. But I've been told by a couple of people that it's possible
@@rcloner1895 I ended up getting an extreme racing ezturbo esc from one of the drift dudes for like 45$ it's just a rebranded quicrun with a modified firmware
Is the Quicrun 10bl120 and the bandit 10.5 a good combo?
Yes - they work together well. The 10bl120 still does not have turbo or boost, which is nice to have.
@@RoadsideRC what battery do you recommend ?
Hi , is the quick run BL 120 am has option to set the drag brake? I try to set it up with program card like you have but only up to 9 item while in the program card drag brake is on the no 11 on the item list. Thanks again. And Merry Christmas to you bro
Yes, it does have it. Instead of your program card, you may need to tune it by the LED flashes and beeps.
@@RoadsideRC thank you I’m going to buy the led programs and try it . Thanks
Do u know if the RTR hobbywing max 10 is the same as an sct w/o a temp wire or whats the deal with it? Thanx for any input. Diggin ur ch.
Thanks for the nice comment!
The Max10 is a basher, non-sensored ESC. Great ESC - just non-sensored. For this application, sensored is better. Now, to be clear, I have drifted non-sensored before. If you have it laying around and it is free - go for it.
Its gonna go in a basher i just got a deal on the RTR version and it doesn’t have the temp sensor and he made that clear but looks just like the sct. no box,paperwork etc but seems to be good. I was just looking for more knowledge of these RTR versions. Thanx for the quick reply. Im taking “RC ED” UA-cam style. Lol.
Gotcha!
Re-reading, I understand.
The RTR of the Max10 is also less amperage than the SCT version. 80A vs 100A if I remember correctly.
@@RoadsideRC theres an 80 amp and a 120 version. RTR Therefore you are not wrong. 👍
Hey my friend thanks for your channel Which of these ESC you recommend for drag racing high gearing dr10? Thanks
Probably neither of them if you really want to be competitive. You will want to step up to an even more powerful, and programmable ESC.
@@RoadsideRC ok my thanks for the info. good info in your videos very easy to understand 👍
Especially for me, I just slide around my kitchen and garage. I live too far from a track.
What connector?
I don't understand your question
@@RoadsideRC what connector is pre soldered on the speed controller?
It is either no connector, or XT-60. I don't fully remember.
Hey buddy, do you know if the 10bl120 is good for 4 pole motors?
Yep, works fine.
@@RoadsideRC thanks mate
I use the quicrun for crawling and it works great
It sure does! Just not waterproof if I remember correctly.
@@RoadsideRC correct! It fell in water and turned off lol took it home and dried it off and it came back to life !!! Just got some conforming coating to make it waterproof!!!
I heard Turbo in boost in from my understanding that means you can basically make this car run on a Turbo in adjust the boost that is absolutely insane . 🤯
Adding both in really adds a bunch of timing and wheel speed. Works great...just have to watch motor temps.
@@RoadsideRC ya
Hello Troy, greetings from Spain. Im buying components for a 1/10 scale buggy DIY. I bought a 4 poles 3660 2600 KV brushless, SL motor. I will use it on 3s. Im missing the ESC and not really sure what parameter apart from Amps( I want a 120A) can I look into in order to decide(resistance,power?). I have two hobbywing in mind: MAX10 SCT and Quicrun 10BL120. The price difference is 40 EUR, Is this really better the MAX10? I want to upgrade it in future with big tires(130mm) both will be ok for bashing fun use? The MAX10 says on specs good for monster truck the othe does not say. thanks!
The Max10 is waterproof, the 10BL120 is not.
The Max10 is also non-sensored, which probably matches your motor.
Great video troy! I'm just getting back into the hobby from 30 years ago. I have a WL Toys144001 car that came with 2200 mah 25c, brushed 550 motor. I'm preparing for an upgrade my 144001 to brushless. Planning to us a 3650 - 5900kv with the Quicrun 10BL120 ESC for speed. I'm trying to match the best lipo for this setup. Are you able to recommend lipo to work with this setup? Thanks, Ed
You just need a small 2S lipo - something that will fit in that buggy.
It doesn't leave a lot of room, so something like this:
amzn.to/3gahMRU
Thank you Troy. Your videos inspire me in this hobby. I enjoy watching all of them. Have a great one. 👊😎👍
I know it has been a while since you uploaded this video but what items would you program on this esc?
Drag brake: zero
Boost and turbo: add
Throttle curve: reduce, unless I control it on the transmitter
Can this be used with a sensorless motor
I believe they both can, yes. Honestly though, if you are going sensorless, you should just get one of the EZRUN ESCs from Hobbywing, as they are cheaper.
@@RoadsideRC the only reason why I asked is that I have a hobby wing 5400 KB sensorless motor and was looking to upgrade my ESC
You don't get any of the benefits such as turbo and boost without being sensored.
The only thing you will gain is perhaps total amps output, and you can get that cheaper elsewhere.
Would you recommend the quicrun for a reedy 17.5?
For a drift application? Both of these work well. Doesn't really matter the turn of the motor you are pairing them with - the characteristics you see here will be similar.
FYI - for drifting, a 17.5T motor is rather slow. If you can step it up to a 10.5T you will really appreciate the difference..
@@RoadsideRC no I’m doing regular track racing and bashing around. My Xerun stock spec 3.1 just went to shit after trying to update the Firmeware so just trying to get back on the road on a budget
OK - that makes sense. Good luck!
Do you get a proggraming card with the esc?
The BL120 comes with basic-type programming card.
For the LCD program card, it has to be purchased separately.
I put a 10bl120 in a zd 9105 kit truck along with a rocket v4 10.5 turn. This is my very first build. I have a dozen or so different cars but this is the first I’ve ever built myself. It is FAST!! I mean 😳 fast. It blew away my JLB J3 speed upgraded version with the upgraded motor. With no wheelie bar it will do a back flip set on punch mode level 3. And not even miss a beat. So for general purpose off/on road fun. Wow great combo. I think altogether motor esc servo and kit around 200 bucks. I stole it he receiver off another car so I guess you would have to add 40 bucks for that. But still at 250 this thing will do 60-70mph easily. Just wanted to put my experience out there. Thanks
Thanks for the info - I will have to check out that ZD kit. Sounds interesting!
@@RoadsideRC make sure you get an extra for spare parts. It’s a little flimsy for the power. Parts are cheap but take forever to ship
Hello Jimmy, I just got the zd racing 9102 Kit(buggy). So 10BL120 ESC can handle big tires good? Im yet deciding between quicrun 120A or MAX10 SCT, 40 EUR difference, for bashing dont know if its worth it. All good for you until now?
@@cesarguerra6039 I’d go max10 or I’ve also had good luck with the Dynamite Fuse 130 because it has a great range far more easily. The 10bl120 doesn’t ever seem to hold its programming and that’s a pain in the butt. You get what you pay for and there is a reason it’s one of the cheapest escs on the market. It’s a decent esc but full of bugs. I’ve got it in 3 cars and have a lot of the same issues with all 3. Issues I’m not having with some of the other options like the 10bl150 and the SC8 which is a great esc
Hey my friend... thanks for this video!
I use a toro 120 at the moment. Do you think a XR10 would be better?
Second question is about the Gyro POSITION? Front, middle or rear? Does it matter or not?
All the best!
Your ESC is good. It has turbo and boost settings?
For the gyro - place it near the center of the chassis. A stable place, without vibrations.
@@RoadsideRC Yes it has turbo and boost. Do you use this features?
Yes!
20* motor timing
10* turbo
10* boost
@@RoadsideRC so thats about 40 at all?
Ok, turbo at full throttle, thats clear but in wich speed range do you have the boost?
I am sorry, I mis-typed. I have motor timing @40*. Plus turbo and boost = 60* total.
Turbo and boost both start at full throttle.
Ello ello. Interesting. Didn't know this info.
Am more a basher or just fun runs on the road. Not into comp, just wanna have fun without the pressure.
One question, with the turbo mode U mentioned, if you buy the XR10, can you use it on turbo mode constantly? For bashing or just a play around the area with speed runs along the way
You can control when and how the turbo and boost activate. They are completely programmable.
@@RoadsideRC okies cool. But would U recommend running it on turbo all the time?
Best wax for 2s?
Sorry - can you repeat the question?
Sorry I was asking which is the best esc for 2s?
i just the 10.5t g3 v10 with xr10 pro g2 combo and bluetooth module for my yd-2r plus. WOW JUST WOW! comming from stock traxxas 3vxl electronics lol.
That is a huge upgrade!!
Quick question are you still using this esc hard🙏✨💯
I use the XR10 as my main esc!
@@RoadsideRC wow great I just got it and it’s so good has Boost and everything thanks for the video!! And there’s ways to get more turning out of it? Correct
You can run a much hotter motor with the 10BL120. The XR10 Stock Spec 80A is rated only for a 13.5T off-road motor (or 10.5T on-road). The 10BL120 is rated for up to a 5.5T off-road. You would have to upgrade to an XR10 Pro to run such a hot motor which costs around $200. So if you run off-road and want a really fast motor vs boost control, etc. then consider the 10BL120. With a 5.5T motor, you may not be too interested in turbo anyway.
Thanks for the tip.
With drifting, rules regulate to 10.5T motor.
Question , why does my rc run faster in reverse 🔄
Brushed: motor wires are swapped.
Brushless: need to recalibrate the ESC
@@RoadsideRC weird it seems like it’s stuck on whatever setting it’s on. Unless I’m doing the throttle calibration wrong
I get no confirming three beeps after the first three
@@MPRPETE Before you start, ensure you throttle trim is set to zero.
I don't see any reason to go for the 10bl120. If you want hobbywing the only two that make sense for drifting are the quicrun 10bl60 and the xerun xr10 stock spec. For motors I think cheap motors actually have a nicer feel for drifting because they have less magnetism and less "braking" effect off throttle. I like the rocket supersonic 10.5T. All of the drift specific electronics just feel like priced up rebranded products that don't really benefit the user.
I do agree, I wonder sometimes how the companies justify the high price for the drift-specific escs.
Great video bud!! I used to race 2wd off road (on real dirt LOL) so super smooth was key. No tracks in my area now so I have just as much fun with a Rustler, X-Maxx, Kraton, Ultima, RC8B3.2e, Granite, etc just running around and bashing anywhere I can find so the $50 unit would suffice. What's best matched 10.5 turn motor for the cheaper HW ESC?
Thanks!
I really like the Hobbywing Bandit 10.5T.
I'm going to use this ESC with Brushless motor brand rocket VR5 10.5t .. hopefully all goes well with drifting... 🤣
It should work great!
Any adjustments on led program card u use for this esc...I think i miss something....
I'm new n wanna go full speed ahead 😅
Go for it!
Sweet.
Thank you!
Just installed the xbl120 and my god with a 13.5 and so much power compared my rtr mst stock motor.
Yes! Glad it works well for you!