What makes PPMD's playstyle unique? PPMD Video Analysis.
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- After the recent interview and in preparation PPMD's return I decided to analyze some of his unique strengths and weaknesses as a player.
I know its a bit long but some people requested that I upload this anyway.
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"Don't be on the fucking platforms, bitch" like two minutes in. This is gonna be a good video.
If you paste the perfect neutral game of ppmd, to the edge guarding and punish game of m2k, you have an invincible marth.
dan altamirano q
That would be a sight to see.
PP2King
dan altamirano
As stated in the video no one is perfect. In the video Leffen shows what happens when what he does doesn't work. It's good and unorthodox, however things like retreating Fairs would help a lot.
Some of PPMD's punishes are better but yes edge guarding is completely m2k
dude I said "strong Ken combo" not "strong hit combo" ROFL
I believe the exact phrasing was “strong Ken combo BABY!!!”
Toph please sign my armpit
It's really interesting to see PP focussing so hard on neutral game when a lot of the other top players are very punish game focussed, nice insight
This is why PP is the greatest. You can't punish if you are always losing neutral.
only problem is you cant win in neutral forever, and one punish is all some players need to win a stock
+Sinjihn Smith That doesn't really matter when you win the neutral much more than your opponent does.
Sinjihn Smith
Also it doesn't effect Marth as much as Fox and Falco and Falco (his other character) combos as a given.
Jordan Silverman Every top player I've heard talk about PP gushes over his neutral game. He's well known for it
Dang no PPMD Falco
We need more of these kind of analysis
the only thing more hype than pp reads are hearing other gods say how unreal his intuition is
Amazing video, I feel like I'm watching Chess Network
CloneHat Hahahahah
I have been trying to understand ppmd play style for so long thank you very much for making a video about it
Thanks for this quality content
cool analysis, definitely put into perspective how pp's style is so unique+effective despite technical flubs
yes. plz do this for every top player including yourself lol.
brian2189114 I would actually rather Armada analyze Leffen.
Loudwire Yeah analysing yourself can be very biased.
Yet every time Mang0 does it, his sub count goes up like a billion. LOL
Thanks leffen for uploadingSome really good stuff
I got into watching the competitive scene of Melee/ Sm4sh in mid 2015 and I've seen a ton of vids on Mang0, Hbox, M2k, Armada & Leffen but I'm still trying to see what PPMD's all about and I hope he comes back to playing
just watch footage from apex 2014 and 2015
Make sure you check out SKTAR 3 and Apex 2014 as well, though. He did a lot better at those 2 tournaments than he did at apex 2015 (mango said this once and I agree)
if you want to get a real look at PPMD, stay away from everything in 2016 and just look at videos from Apex 2015 and prior
Thanks for all the video suggestions guys! I seen 'em in a few videos from like GRsmash etc. but no lengthy matches to really see what sets his style apart.
Dicks out for PP
Wow that dream platform tech chase strat is amazing.
I like your analysis Leff. I can definitely see your humbled by Kevin's playstyle because he plays so smart & unique, almost passive aggressive like you said. And i love you show respect as well. Keep up the good work. Definitely cant wait to see future sets between you and PPMD.
Falco. Marth. Peach. Fox.
Long ago, the five gods lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when the Armada attacked.
Only PPMD, master of destroying floaties, could stop him. But when Melee needed him most, he vanished.
Two years passed and competitive discovered a new protagonist, a Sheik main named Plup. And although his gimp skills are great, he still has a lot to learn before he's ready to take a set.
But I believe Plup can stop the 3VO.
You only named 4 in the beginning
pls i need ppmd to come back :'( i miss him
MMQuck yes
Wonderful analysis, I would love to see more of these!
Thanks for these videos Leffen! Please keep them coming!
This kind of insight's very interesting, it shows how much there really is to it to this game.
Great content man. Refreshing once again to see such honesty as well as respect.
Nice song at the end. Marshmello - Alone, for those wondering
You should do more of these but definitely edit the videos a bit and cut all the empty space
15:40
'he's just suffocating plup'
i like that you pointed it out.. sometimes getting 'mind gamed' or read like that can be pretty devastating... i feel like plup prolly improved lots off this set alone vs pp.
great vid. hoping for more of this stuff
asmr af
Really great analysis of what makes pp so good. Also this is moreso an editing critique rather than the actual video, but the outro music on the endslate is hella loud compared to the audio in the rest of the video. Might wanna turn it down a little bit in the future.
Amazing video! Would love to see your thoughts on other players too!
I used to strongly dislike Leffen. But man the more I get to know about him the more I love him. You are pretty awesome dude! Keep up the great work
Leffen used to annoy me but now I really enjoy the way he talks and his attitude. I would lovingly call it Kanye-like.
He is the yeezy of smash
As far as confidence his is similar to kanye, but what he says makes far more sense. Leffen just speaks the truth, kanye likes to be sensational for the sake of being sensational.
I mostly just mean from a confidence standpoint, and for the fact that they both do what they do and say what they say for the betterment of their respective genres of entertainment
+Octopus Rocket looool Kanye would start crying and interrupt someone else's show,if he knew you said he was only improving his genre
He is Shakespeare, Kubrick and muddy waters
Kanye is art, didn't you buy his yeezy's
Kanye will save pm and show everyone that brawl is the truest smash
no.
I feel like the difference between ppmd and the other gods is that the other gods visibly overwhelm and outplay everyone. ppmd just beats you. like when you watch the other gods you can tell it's them. for ppmd it's like you're watching a normal player, but everytime he plays someone he knows how to beat them. you can see his speed techs and stuff, but it just feels different when watching ppmd. you watch it and he just always wins.
collin beer I'd be tempted to say the opposite. PPMD at his best completely outplays you in neutral - it doesn't matter how good your punish game is if his neutral is so perfect that you're never in a position to land a hit. The other gods (+ Leffen) with the exception of maybe Mango are much more punish heavy and capitalize to the fullest off every mistake. PPMD is less flashy combos and more movement and prediction. It's a really unique playstyle, especially at this level of play.
PPMD is "Don't get hit" come alive before our eyes.
PP only took 1 jab during the interaction at 29:46 🐐
18:11 No way, Leffen likes Swoozie's videos too.
I really enjoyed this video
I thought some sort of ASMR video had queued up on autoplay. I go to the tab and it's fucking Leffen. my brain.
PP was this good without having the best ability to shield drop and sdi like leffen mentioned, if PP implements those elements I cant imagine how much better he will get. PP with marth pivots can also be very deadly.
PPMD in 2017 is what Melee needs. That would be so fucking hype if he started placing in tournaments again.
Please analyze yourself vs M2K, it'll be so interesting.
I'm pretty sure Toph said "A really strong Ken combo".
Damn leffen giving mad respect too pp! Same though he's one of my favorite to watch too. My favs are mango ppmd and leffen
Leffen ASMR
good shit leffen !
PPMD Kreygasm
MichaelChristopher9 lazy comment.
+Reggy Davis lazy c
thanks
I'd call ppmd a modern day Ken.
Rk9 Everyone is a modern day Ken
EdgarL26
Everyone that mains Marth is a modern day Ken.
I'd call PPMD daddy
oh god i hug ppmd
I think the neutral air forward smash on the left platform vs Armada might've been an attempt at ledge cancel?
Kreygasm PPMD Kreygasm
Can you make another one of these but with other players such as yourself?
15:21 pp should have ended this combo with reverse up-b. i swear, more than 50% of marths combos can end with up-b but no one does it
What is anime?
i don't tune in to leffens streams, is he usually this quiet? i've never heard him be this quiet tbh
you gotta make these shorter man
plz dont
Nah, I like having these long videos to listen to while doing other things. Much prefer the longer vids.
Do you think ppmd did so well maybe because he had been out of the scene? The other top players couldn't prepare as well as he could for them
Is it weird to see your own face all over UA-cam?
notification gang
come back pp
P P M D Kreygasm
Insightful video, the only thing is that you talk so quietly. Speak up my man people want to hear what you have to say
Does anyone know how to land on the platforms so quickly - like without having much time actually being in the air when jumping. PPMD just lands on them so fast... I've been trying to find out for a while now. Like at 14:51
he wavedashes into the platform is what i think you're referring to
12345sebster waveland
Thank you! Man, that sounds so intuitive... I'm dumb X D
Oh yeah! Saw that with ppu. Thanks though! : D I don't practice it. I do it accidently ... Meh X D
What's a shallow Marth down tilt?
A normal dtilt is aimed where the opponent is. A deep dtilt is aimed past the opponent, predicting they will dash away. A shallow dtilt aims ahead of the opponent, predicting they will dash at you.
Ah okay I was thinking there were different types of down tilts that I never heard about if i pressed (A) more lightly lmao thank you
outro song?
I was looking at frame data and saw that Mewtwo's Nair autocancels earliest on frame 5 and comes out as early as frame 5. Does that mean he can auto cancel his Nair with a hit box active?
If it is, then the hitbox is probably only active for 1 frame when you autocancel is.
+ChillTerumi *it
SaviorSelf still, that's dope af
Waldo stfu nerd
Jas Sandoval lol
Will ppmd go to Genesis 4?
R3loD _NiNjAx as a spectator from what I've heard
R3loD _NiNjAx pp said during his interview with tafo that he's still undecided on whether or not he'll play or not. His condition is improving, but I kinda doubt that he will be able to play, especially on a decent level.
Matthew Slavin Dang it! Rip man!
.(ง •̀ω•́)ง
Matthew Slavin
He said he is definitely coming back, however when is unknown. He will probably make to 20, however don't expect much from him. He's been out too long
The Law i know he's coming back, it's a matter of when. I am doubtful he'll play at genesis, but I think he will be back to top level in due time.
Kreygasm
Asmr
even though i love toph.. next time you could mute th commentary
5:00
7th xd
Leffen's voice almost gave me cancer.
nothing.
He is unique because he is never coming back.....