@Spectres_Gaming_Corner did you seriously just call the murder drones finale? The worst way the show could have ended? Well now I don't care about any of your opinions goodbye
No J shouldn't betray her team V should've have V knew this whole fucking time V is a fucking traitor... And I realized what V was doing now she was telling lies to N and Uzi and putting them in danger...I fucking knew it V is really a fucking traitor....I should've been supporting J for her not V...🤬
I feel like N only forgot everything because Cyn kept erasing his memories because he was her favorite. So, she wanted him to only remember what she wanted him to. Also, the distorted Eternal Dream in the background when Cyn confronts V was so effective!
During my first rewatch I didn't pick up on the subtle changes in Vs demeanor. After my second rewatch, I finally figured out Vs changes. With the context of who Cyn is, what V remembers from their time as workers it's clear that V is deeply scared. She at least knows that Cyn/the Solver promised to leave them alone once they've done their job and seeing Uzis solver activate seems to make her believe she is *the* Solver. But seeing how N defended Uzi so clearly seems to shift something. She doesn't understand why N would defend Uzi, who is clearly showing signs of being under the Solvers control. Every episode that passes after the Promening it seems like V starts to realize that there might be a slim chance they could actually defeat Cyn, but she's afraid. Her telling Uzi that she trusts her in Episode 6 is huge. She finally understood that she has to either trust Uzi... or kill her. Uzi could be their change to win against Cyn or their death sentence. Something that shouldn't be underestimated is that all of them were brainwashed, cloned, torn apart just pure trauma. Vs mean demeanor towards N might be her way of distancing herself from him. She knows that N had a crush on her (if she knew that he retained this crush is another story) and she knew that they couldn't possible get more attached to each other. The threat of Cyn is still out there and she could lose everything and everyone, especially N. She pushes everyone away, maybe fearing that in the end, nothing matters because the Solver is coming to destroy the planet and all life on it. Even Lizzy, who tries to befind V is pushed away by her despite them sharing alot of external traits. I also understand her viceral reaction to Uzi after she ingested the Solver, fearing Uzi could still be dangerous and maybe it's all a trick until Uzi drops the "damaged OC" line and she relaxes, realizing it's really Uzi and not Cyn/the Solver speaking. I'm glad that in the end, V survived and she's able to finally have some peace of mind, having friends and shelter without fearing that Cyn will come back anytime soon.
That proves Cyn was just playing around if she’s serious she won’t let V to keep her memory How tragic it is to turn a sweet girl into a cold person V turns get bitter from everything Cyn did
I feel like V probably put on the psychotic personality just cause she wanted N to be safe but she was like that for so long that she was so used to it that it just became her normal personality. Either that or Cyn did it xd
A shame that people are so disappointed in the finale, because it wasn’t bad. Like really, it was actually a great finale. It wrapped everything up, it gave us all we needed in a finale, and literally NO ONE has been able to give me a clear answer for why they dislike it so much. That’s the biggest reason people being overly critical about the finale makes me so upset. GIVE ME A REASON? What was so bad about it?
Still though, that scene is considered by literally everyone to be an amazing scene. Exactly what she needed, and most people think that it’s her best scene in the whole show. I agree with that. N is still my favorite character, just for the sheer amount of character depth, growth, and development he had throughout the entire show, but V is absolutely my second favorite character because of that scene specifically.
I for one liked the finale. I wasn't a long time fan and literally only got into it because of the song 'Bite Me' when I heard it on tiktok. So i pretty much binged watched the whole show in a sitting only maybe 3 days after it ended. I liked the ending however my problem with it is that it was far too short. It could have used a good extra 10 minutes , why they left it at 20 I have no idea. From what I've seen most of everyone's upset was that it was too short and that The Solver was defeated far too easily. Personally I think J could of had a real cool turn around here, they were all tricked but with Uzi they had a chance to get free from the Solver but instead they decided not to do anything more with her character. I wouldn't have been mad if they just like had her help and then she leaves on her own. Also with the way the show is written unnecessary jokes, especially during the fight scene (trust I loved the hand shake but-) was distracting and wasted time. I honestly expected The Solver to pull Uzi down into a inescapable flesh prison and have a final tense stand off there with some back and forward shit talking. Maybe even have Cyn, the real Cyn not the one that was infected with the Solver, maybe intervene as a last moment 'Stop. You won't hurt big brother N anymore' sort of deal. Heck maybe even Tessa saying thank you before the body falls apart (hows having a ghost inside your body for eldritch). I also am very mad Lizzy and Thad did not get a fight scene. You can not give them cool poses and not actually include them IN the fight! Overall I very much like how it ended, it felt like the natural ending we could have got beyond the solver being 100% dead but I think they missed out on a lot of opportunities that could have made it much better.
As someone that enjoyed it overall, the main problem for me felt like the timeskip just jumped past the arcs of Khan and N, it felt sorta like there was meant to be an episode in between that we never saw.
I have several things that I'll cover in a video coming eventually where I rewrite it, but some of the reasons include: J did next to nothing since she was brought back in episode 3. In the final fight, she dodges a railgun bullet, got hit by a railgun, got decapitated, and threw one attack at Uzi which was blocked and then didn't appear until the credits We didn't really see anything of N and how he behaves by himself. I was excited about this episode because N likely thought Uzi was dead so we would get to see how he behaves that way when he's forced to be independent and he could be more than just "Cute innocent guy who cares about Uzi more than anything" There's many other things, but those are my biggest issues. I'll be covering them in my other video coming at some point this year.
5:49 hand in the background forms a thumbs up as cyn asks "right v?" 5:55 thumbs up becomes a thumbs down when cyn says "bad job, v." just a cool detail i never noticed until now
I dont think V knew Tessa was dead. going off of episode 5(while the memory isn't what exactly happened. it's all we have) V didn't see Tessa die, V was confused on how tessa survived, but didn't act on anything as Tessa was one of the few things she had from the mansion. If V knew what Cyn was doing, she probably wouldn't have spoken badly of Cyn in front of Cyn. "Anything to screw with Cyns plan" she says TO CYN
@Spectres_Gaming_Corner or V learned after the fact, not knowing all along. She would've recalled the damaged astronaut suit in which Tessa would have died after exposure. Which only V noticed in episode 6 after confronting her about the sentinels. Then the planet suddenly sprouting tendrils means Cyn was in it. In all likelihood, V put two and two together.
1:51 It actually makes sense if you understand the story! :D V : "different body same horrors, huh Cyn?" On numerous occasions, we were able to see Uzi loosing control over her own body especially in episode 6 where they are in a facility and Uzi's finger was about to cut off you can see that it wasn't 'Uzi' who was in control when she snapped, on some occasions we saw her eyes changed colors to yellow(you can see Uzi's eyes glitching yellow in the elevator scene), indicating Cyn was in control! Same goes for this scene except Cyn's control was going in and out. In the flashback, we can see Cyn causing chaos in the ballroom making the word 'horror' in the dialogue has the meaning of chaos. The reason Cyn was able to control Uzi, is because they're a different type of worker bots called 'Zombie drones' which can be seen in one of the episodes where N found a guide book/video about them, the Russian bot(forgot her name) is also a zombie drone Uzi : "Can I talk to N?" V : "I'll make sure you can't" The reason why V forbids 'Uzi' to see N is because Cyn(who is in Uzi's body) has some type of obsession to N, proven in the last episode in the scene where Cyn is digging in to N's body(where she is screaming let me in numerous times) 2:20 Yes! She actually remembers and I'm pretty sure J also remebers, but for N, he doesn't remember fully Why? In the early episodes, J stabbed N making him reboot and Uzi shot him with some type of gun(?) where he regenerates, he seemed lost, like he lost his memories. That's why in N's flashback, it wasn't really one as Uzi mentioned that they are retrieving memories that he 'lost'. Why did we only see this trio? Maybe because they are the 'team' that are dispatched/assigned within/to the area the animation took place. I'm sure there are more, but we just didn't see them 2:40 V : "Uzi, I trust you" V never really trusted Uzi as she knows Uzi is a zombie drone who can hurt them based on her experience with Cyn, but after knowing her better and spending sometime with her. V finally decided to leave N to her care as V meant to sacrifice herself so Uzi and especially N survives. 3:57 V keeps mentioning the 'job' they were supposed to do and leave, the job she meant was removing Cyn fully as she is a threat. That's why she despised Uzi, as she is a zombie drone and could be controlled by Cyn therefore not fully removing Cyn. But after episode 6, she trusts Uzi and decides not to kill her anymore and solely focus on the mission of removing Cyn. Therefore the reason V mentioned the 'job' again is because J has betrayed the mission and her by joining Cyn's side which is basically joining the enemy
4:05 I wouldn’t necessarily say N’s decision to tell V to stop is “stupid”, more like desperate. He was very clearly suffering a panic attack during the “callback ping” and when he hears V’s voice, someone who he and Uzi assumed was dead (which admittedly may have affected his decision-making at this point), N almost immediately tries calling out to her to warn her of the solver, on the off chance that it’s the real deal, but Uzi covers his mouth, wondering if it’s a trap. As V continues confessing her part in all of this, Uzi backs off, unsure what to do, before N yells at V to stop. This ended up saving her as she was actually confessing to an illusion, but at the cost of getting his own core ripped out.
I’ve gotta disagree on your take with episode 6’s ending, in the end episode 4 we see that V begins to trust Uzi once she realises that Uzi’s possession could be undone - this is shown in the bus where V is willing to take the fall for Uzi’s rampage. Next by episode 6, Uzi has proven that the powers of the solver don’t necessarily mean you get possessed, and V also sees that this only happens when Uzi pushes herself. Pair this with her newly found suspicion of Tessa and it’s natural that the person she trusts the most is the one other person Tessa hasn’t told the “truth”. I will say that not enough time was given for this arc to be noticeable, it was pretty much blink and you’ll miss it with stuff like the bus scene, but I felt like this was worth mentioning. Edit: just wanted to add in that I loved the video, I probably wouldn’t have noticed the significance of the “we do our jobs” detail without it
True. The main problem is that we didn't get to see V's change of heart and it was too sudden, which is why I love Intermission so much as it fixes that and we get to see it if you know what I mean
Honestly the hallway is the closest I’ve felt to fear in this show because that thing scares the shit out of V, someone who seemed to be a sadistic killer, as well as being pretty badass. V being scared honestly also served as a great way to hype up Cyn and get the point across to anyone that hasn’t gotten the idea already that Cyn is terrifying
this is why i love v so much✊, it just hurts to see the lack of reaction from n when she turned out to be alive, knowing how much she tried to protect him
She even tried to do so when his core flew right into his chest after Khan's ultimate THE DOOR usage. The moment Cyn dashed into attack, she closed herself and him with her hands
That hallway scene is probably one of my favorites in the series. It was the characters at their best. (Except for Uzi, as she didn't really do anything.) It showed N's willingness to throw out his neck for others, basically scarficing himself so V would be safe. It showed how screwed up Cyn is, and how manipulative she was. And loving every second of tormenting V. And V. It recontextualizes every scene that she was in, for the better. It was all an act. And I love when Cyn was tormenting her, she faltered for a bit. Cyn for a few seconds seemed to give V some false hope that her and N could be together. It further humanizes V, that she cared so much for N, she was willing to make a deal with the devil to secure their future.
"Don't mess with us Murder Drones fans, we don't even like the show!" Okay hold on V CLEARLY stopped wanting to kill Uzi at the end of Episode 4. She actually cared for her in Episode 6.
The hallway scene literally almost brought me to tears because of the raw emotion put into her lines, and when V tried to tell Cyn that she could still do her job, the pure hopelessness and desperation, I FELT THAT. SO HARD. And re-watching the series after that is like a sucker-punch when you see all the things that you now fully understand, like the small glimpse of Tessa in Cabin fever for example, it felt so random at first, but knowing everything now, it's sort of terrifying how early on Cyn was catching up to them.
I agree that there was a glaring missing chunk of the story regarding how V went from trying to kill Uzi in Episode 4 to caring about her in Episode 6, among other things like Uzi learning how to use her Solver form's flight and what started her hacking into N and V's memories. Thank God for 'Murder Drones: Intermission.' :) Though I still love 'Murder Drones,' I agree that the pilot and the last couple episodes feel less like bookends to the same series and more like separate shows to each-other that were made by the same people.
Well to be fair on the last point on the pilot and the latter episodes not connecting very well together in it. Just look at the name of the former and you'll get your answer to why that's the case here. Pilots usual are meant to be a proof of concept for what the show is about and how it might go like with it's story ideas and tone with the concepts in them that might not always carry over to the finished project. So it's not too shocking then when the rest of a series get's made from it and it doesn't fully match up with what the Pilot was trying to go for like we see with both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss pilots with how different they were from there main show counterpoints for example. Murder Drones pilot is no different here with a few characters in it, having different personality's next to how they ended up in the rest of the series (Doll originally was going to act more like how Lizzy does or how Khan was meant to be series main bad villain back when the show was originally going for a ''Slice of life'' tone before that got change as you can tell) or some plotline's that wouldn't followed up on like with Uzi planning on killing all humans thing until that got drop once the whole ''Solver killing all of Mankind'' happened instead. So yeah, I'm not saying that this suddenly fix's all of the show's issues or that you wrong on your points there since I do agree with you that the finished story here does have some missing elements to it (You can blame that on the fact the runtime on the videos is too short and it just not having enough episodes doesn't help on that front as well) and such. This is just me trying to explain on why the pilot and the later episodes feel like, as you say in your comment, ''Two separate shows made by the same people'' and I think we shouldn't hold it against the series too much since again, pilots by the norm don't match up with the main show very well as we have seen many times by now over the years.
I still don't understand why people think Uzi needed to learn how to use the Solver in any capacity. *She's a machine: just input the feature, and it runs.* We're people seriously expecting a damn training montage?
@@crazy13alex Huh, Didn't know people were complaining about that tbh. I thought it was more on how Uzi can use her Solver powers without getting takeover by Cyn and such.
@@Voxwoods By the time it posed a problem to Uzi or Doll, Cyn was a known entity. No one complained because it made sense. What people found odd was that Uzi was able to use the Solver with no practice immediately after The Promening's ending. The same with her being able to fly adequately between episode 4-6. Apparently they forgot that Uzi was a drone; no training to learn how to control new abilities.
In my opinion the show's ending wasn't too bad compared to a lot of shows I've seen, I just think it could've really used at least TWO more episodes to get more into the lore an everything.. Once the finale came out I rewatched all the episodes together and noticed how extreme the pacing was for some episodes. Really cool video anyway though :D made me appreciate V a lot more!!
Murder Drones has the same problem the first season of Hazbin Hotel had; way too much story for only eight episodes to properly tell. The critical difference being the eighth episode of HH was only a _season_ finale, and they'll have more time to properly flesh out their story and characters. Couple that with the questionable writing and direction decisions, and I get the feeling MD will be remembered more for what it could have been rather than what it actually was. =(
Exactly. I love Absolute End as an episode, even a season finale, but since it's the last episode of the show entirely I really don't like it. Generally I don't care too much about character arcs since if something since there's more coming and it can be redeemed. But I really care a lot in the final episode since this is that last time we would ever see these characters
BUT... It was already very clear that V remembers everything, I had already understood it before episode 8. However, a little presicion V says: “You work with cyn?” to J. So that means that it's not the case for V, so in my opinion it's cyn who pretended to be tessa to V, and who manipulated J and then J manipulated V.
Am i the only one who interpreted the sacrifice as her trusting uzi with N? And was it not clear from episode 3 that she clearly at least knew WAY more about cyn and her motives than N did?
This is an amazing video man. Opened up my eyes, literally! I never looked back at her dialogue back then, and the way you explained it made total sense. Always loved V, and now I love her more!😭❤️
People think I simp for v because hotness or whatever, but I only started after episode 3 because I am a lore enthusiast. I could tell from there. There was lore building up. I simp because she cares enough to do anything to save N. She cares about him more than anything. That is someone I can respect and love.
So if someone berates me for saying I simp for v for bad reasons, I’ll just send them this video. It describes perfectly why I simp for v and why she is my favorite character.
And what does she get for her efforts? Getting it rubbed in her face that she will never be with N as Uzis taken her place since V distanced herself… atleast she’s still alive tho
Still don’t think V needed to pretending she didn’t know N in the pilot. That scene seems like it was done for the joke instead of a logical reasoning. I could also argue the whole insanity personality also didn’t make sense and it was done only for the joke. Insane V is what drew me into the show but we should have gotten cold hearted straight-man V from the beginning.
1:37 That wasn’t actually V, she was the frozen lake. That was the absolute solver disguise as V. Her mannerisms, the way she stood, and talked looked like Cyn’s mannerisms. That wasn’t V.
Nah. Cyn's stance is somewhat different. V's arms look more.. relaxed? than in Cyn's iconic pose. Pretty sure it was just her acting like a crazy one, besides I believe I saw a similar pose in one of the V's reference drawings
And it was very clear that V had some memories from before they were turned into Murder drones, as she hinted at it in other episodes. She also said “Uzi… I trust you” right before she unalived herself because she was starting to realise how much Uzi meant to N, she was losing hope in saving humanity so she was trying to become a better Robot. She also sacrificed herself bc she knew that she would come back; Just like J did. Your point at 4:40 was 100% right, she cared for N and didn’t say anything because she knew the consequences if she had told him; that’s why she was so rude to Uzi- Uzi was a danger to her end of the deal because if N had become to close with her then she wouldn’t have been about to hold her end of the deal.
N's decision in episode 8 during the hallway scene isnt actually stupid, he shouted at her to stop to save her life from cyn which was giving V the illusion that SHE was N
N had no reason to believe that V was alive, and he already knows from episode 7 that Cyn can replicate V's voice. It was just a case of lazy writing that his instinct was correct.
The way you analyze the writing by noticing small, but just as important details as some things that V had said, which ultimately made her dialogue in the hallway scene impactful, is very impressive. Although I disagree with some parts in this video (probably because of bias, which is a bad thing on my part), it doesn't take away from what you talked about. Great job!
The Seen at 3:35 is CYN not V, since V was with N and the others outside the whole time, and it was clear tejas V knew more then N or us since she was constantly hiding things from N and Uzi, that’s why it was confusing at first why she had it out for Uzi. It was because she knew they would have to kill her to save everyone just like how “Tessa” (CYN) told N without telling Uzi.
Thanks for explaining that scene. I really didn't know what it meant at first, because I'm not good at figuring things out. This revelation really has things make a lot more sense. And it's even noticable that V is constantly trying to hide her secret, for example, in The Promening. N asks V if she knows what they even are, but V simply tells him to not to pry into that stuff. I didn't know what that meant at the time, but suddenly, it's so clear. She's hiding the truth from N, because she doesn't want to scare him! It really makes me wonder whether Liam and the writers had just come up with this idea to tie some loose ends, or if they had this idea in mind for a long time.
bruh the series just ended so hurry and many stuff just remained unfinished....as a V fan im happy to see V got her full character arc but i mean J Doll and a bunch of other stuff just being a mess
I have no idea why people are disappointed in the finale, like none of these people actually give a clear reason on why its "bad". Seriously the only problem is that it was just a bit short, nothing else feels majorly bad about this finale and it all made sense to most.
I plan to eventually make a video where I not only talk about my problems with it but also talk about how to fix it. I want it to be as good as possible so it probably won't be coming for a while, but I'll go more in depth as to why I dislike Absolute End in that one.
(i copy and pasted this from the other comment i made replying to someone saying basically the same thing) i think the problem is just it felt rushed, it didnt feel like an ending, the ending to the episode too with the song forever showed us doll is still alive it seems and that theres still something in cyrosleep, it just felt like a big f** you to everyone. like why show something like cyrosleep and doll which both had a whole episode revolving around them if you just ended the series? and murder drones is an amazing series with so much potential, it just all felt unfinished, like i garuntee murder drones season 1 couldve gone on for atleast a few more episodes with the same ending and plot. episode 7 was such a good episode too, so episode 8 ending it and somehow managing to be worse just felt like a slap in the face.
V was my favorite from the beginning, I had mixed feelings about her in episode 2-5, i was really sad that she “died” in episode 6, and episode 8 gives me more reasons to love her
V is actually a pretty well written character when you actually try to understand what is going on in the Murder Drones universe, for starters the scene in 1:20 that "makes no sense" of she saying that if they do their jobs that "thing" leave us alone, she is actually talking about Cyn, same thing later in the same episode when she literally says "different body same horros CYN", she knows cyn can control robots that has the AbsolutSolver mutation, so everything that V did in the show was to protect N from cyn, since faking hating him on the first episodes so he wouldn't learn about their mission, up to sacrificing herself for Uzi.
I swear, MD is unwatchable if you don't watch videos like this alongside it 😂 I completely glossed over the entire V segment . I sort of thought it was just V panicking or something, but you explained it perfectly ! Amazing video❤
To be honest, V's impact is comparable to Uzi's. They both had different goals, but that competition between these 2 led to the solvation of defeating absolute solver
i hated episode 8, it was everything i didnt want in a murder drones episode it felt like. it was jsut a bad episode (if someone wants me to say why i can explain jsut ask me to in a reply.) but the hallway scene really made me rethink abt v as a character, from the start i always loved v and j, they were just really baddie and fabulous. i really wish episode 8 was better, i think the hallway scene was like the perfect scene however. it fit perfectly with an ending episode. episode 8 itself was just a horrible ending to murder drones in general though.
Exactly. It's alright as an episode and even would be fine as a season finale but it leaves so many loose ends and just doesn't work as an ending to the whole show.
3:43 Wait... I thought that one red eyed sentinel had been taken over by Doll? That's why it's eyes randomly went red and it became sapient, and obsessed with bothering lizzy (the popular girl who betrayed Doll)?
So I don't know if someone has said this is the part in ep 4 where V was with Uzi saying she's gonna kill Uzi if you watch V the stance and movement of V seems a bit clumsy and off it's almost misguided movements.
Your analysis of the hallway scene and V's character are illuminating, but I respectfully disagree with most of the rest of your opinions. Episode 8 failed to tie up some loose ends, but was so fun and horrifying I can't complain.
When I went to bed this had 24 views. I wake up and see... ALMOST TWO THOUSAND?!?!?!??!?!?! THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH, I have NEVER had a video grow as quickly as this one did.
I just wish murder drones had an extra episode or something to flush out the characters better, plus I also thought early on that N and V would be a thing. Will you be making any more MD content?
I know the finale isn't perfect. It should've been longer to explain everything but it's fine. The best part about this episode 8 was the fight scene, the animation, cyn is funny and terrifying, the background characters give me the laugh out of me, and V character development was the best part. The ending was good, but it led with a few things that would explore more. This episode 8 was great but disappointing for the runtime.
I agree with everything you said on the subject matter but I disagree with what you said in the beginning. The finale really *could’ve* been worse. While not perfect (by any means) it was overall adequate
It isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, some people liked the action, others were focused on the lore and dialogue. Though, it still raised a lot of questions throughout the series. The other disassembly drones that had gone unnoticed and absent, the other planets’ attempts to fight Cyn, IF, and a very big if. Season 2 was being made, we may get more insight. But for now, episode 8 is all we got.
@@darktooth4576 ikr? Like we only got theories of the AS’s goal but why was it tryna eat *everything?* The humans I get but why the drones too? What happened to the other disassembly drones? Why’d they show Doll’s body at the end? Is the absolute solver just a sentient black hole? If so how? Just so many unanswered questions…
This has been one of the worst videos I heard about the series first: I think you literally missed half the show from the start, V was shown to know what is going on from the first couple episodes, if you had paid closer attention to episode 3 timestamp 4:30-4:45 then 5:40-6:05 you would know that V knew what was going on right from the start, and she had only N's interest when she acted, So No even if V died in the elevator scene in episode 7 her character wouldn't be uncomplete you can deduce the missing parts easily because the writing in this show is so good it left enough bread crumps to finish the story before the finale Second: The way you started the video calling the finale bad then giving literally zero explanation or example, or referencing another video where you discuss why you didn't like it is just bad argument formation, if you are gonna voice an opinion on the internet especially a controversial one you have to support it with points or personal preference otherwise you sound like you cannot form a good criticism or argument Third: You didn't explain what efficient dialogue is, I still don't know what it is, or why it matters, which is the entire purpose of this video, from what I can deduce it is just voicing the important parts to make things clear???? Forth: My points are all formed in bias because I enjoyed the show very much and enjoyed the finale as I think it tied up the show very nicely so take everything I say with the perspective of you attacking something I like and find that it has very good writing with no argument to support it TDLR: You didn't give an reason for your opinion, you missed vital conversation pieces and the points they made, you didn't explain the title of the video I wrote too much
Thanks for the criticism, this is my first ever essay video on Murder Drones so I know it's not perfect. I'll try to improve these in my next Murder Drones video, whenever that is
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner it is fine, we all start somewhere I cannot judge you as much as a video creator but I can judge as a viewer Some advice: When you want to talk about a beloved series with a big following you have to bring one of two major things Either valid criticism from a professional stand point, supported by experience in the field or experience reading about the field of creating a story Personal opinion, everyone is entitled to their own opinion no one can judge your own taste just state what you didn't like and why from your own view point Otherwise you may accidentally garner a huge hate that might stick to your channel forever.
@@user-eu2mg8lw2t I would have gone into more detail about why I dislike Absolute End if I wasn't already planning to make a video in the future where I go more in depth into that, while this one was supposed to be about some of the best things it did, if that makes sense.
i think the points he made were reasonable, i mean murder drones is no way a perfect series, some parts in the story is glossed over or rushed or ended to quick. i think you just need to think abt it more to understand his points
i think the problem is just it felt rushed, it didnt feel like an ending, the ending to the episode too with the song forever showed us doll is still alive it seems and that theres still something in cyrosleep, it just felt like a big f** you to everyone. like why show something like cyrosleep and doll which both had a whole episode revolving around them if you just ended the series? and murder drones is an amazing series with so much potential, it just all felt unfinished, like i garuntee murder drones season 1 couldve gone on for atleast a few more episodes with the same ending and plot. episode 7 was such a good episode too, so episode 8 ending it and somehow managing to be worse just felt like a slap in the face.
I feel so bad for V cause she never even got N, Ik its still a happy ending cause she was able to keep N safe and now that Cyn is dead, he is safe, but the Envy ship is so tragic bruh, the childhood friend never wins their love istg 😭
1:38 this would be quite childish but maybe V knows N used to have a crush on her and is upset that N is slowly changing his preferences to Uzi but maybe I getting a bit ahead of myself
THE VALLWAY SCENE IS UNDENIABLY V'S BEST SCENE 🔥
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NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS WOULD I THINK THAT YAGSTERR WOULD COMMENT ON MY VIDEO
anyway I hope you liked my first MD analysis video :)
Yeah!
V’s voice actor did so good on the hallway scene!
@Spectres_Gaming_Corner did you seriously just call the murder drones finale? The worst way the show could have ended? Well now I don't care about any of your opinions goodbye
No J shouldn't betray her team V should've have V knew this whole fucking time V is a fucking traitor... And I realized what V was doing now she was telling lies to N and Uzi and putting them in danger...I fucking knew it V is really a fucking traitor....I should've been supporting J for her not V...🤬
I feel like N only forgot everything because Cyn kept erasing his memories because he was her favorite. So, she wanted him to only remember what she wanted him to.
Also, the distorted Eternal Dream in the background when Cyn confronts V was so effective!
During my first rewatch I didn't pick up on the subtle changes in Vs demeanor. After my second rewatch, I finally figured out Vs changes. With the context of who Cyn is, what V remembers from their time as workers it's clear that V is deeply scared. She at least knows that Cyn/the Solver promised to leave them alone once they've done their job and seeing Uzis solver activate seems to make her believe she is *the* Solver. But seeing how N defended Uzi so clearly seems to shift something. She doesn't understand why N would defend Uzi, who is clearly showing signs of being under the Solvers control.
Every episode that passes after the Promening it seems like V starts to realize that there might be a slim chance they could actually defeat Cyn, but she's afraid. Her telling Uzi that she trusts her in Episode 6 is huge. She finally understood that she has to either trust Uzi... or kill her. Uzi could be their change to win against Cyn or their death sentence.
Something that shouldn't be underestimated is that all of them were brainwashed, cloned, torn apart just pure trauma. Vs mean demeanor towards N might be her way of distancing herself from him. She knows that N had a crush on her (if she knew that he retained this crush is another story) and she knew that they couldn't possible get more attached to each other. The threat of Cyn is still out there and she could lose everything and everyone, especially N.
She pushes everyone away, maybe fearing that in the end, nothing matters because the Solver is coming to destroy the planet and all life on it. Even Lizzy, who tries to befind V is pushed away by her despite them sharing alot of external traits.
I also understand her viceral reaction to Uzi after she ingested the Solver, fearing Uzi could still be dangerous and maybe it's all a trick until Uzi drops the "damaged OC" line and she relaxes, realizing it's really Uzi and not Cyn/the Solver speaking.
I'm glad that in the end, V survived and she's able to finally have some peace of mind, having friends and shelter without fearing that Cyn will come back anytime soon.
That proves Cyn was just playing around if she’s serious she won’t let V to keep her memory
How tragic it is to turn a sweet girl into a cold person V turns get bitter from everything Cyn did
I feel like V probably put on the psychotic personality just cause she wanted N to be safe but she was like that for so long that she was so used to it that it just became her normal personality.
Either that or Cyn did it xd
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner it’s probably that because Cyn said she kept their original personality
A shame that people are so disappointed in the finale, because it wasn’t bad. Like really, it was actually a great finale. It wrapped everything up, it gave us all we needed in a finale, and literally NO ONE has been able to give me a clear answer for why they dislike it so much. That’s the biggest reason people being overly critical about the finale makes me so upset. GIVE ME A REASON? What was so bad about it?
Still though, that scene is considered by literally everyone to be an amazing scene. Exactly what she needed, and most people think that it’s her best scene in the whole show. I agree with that.
N is still my favorite character, just for the sheer amount of character depth, growth, and development he had throughout the entire show, but V is absolutely my second favorite character because of that scene specifically.
I for one liked the finale. I wasn't a long time fan and literally only got into it because of the song 'Bite Me' when I heard it on tiktok. So i pretty much binged watched the whole show in a sitting only maybe 3 days after it ended. I liked the ending however my problem with it is that it was far too short. It could have used a good extra 10 minutes , why they left it at 20 I have no idea. From what I've seen most of everyone's upset was that it was too short and that The Solver was defeated far too easily.
Personally I think J could of had a real cool turn around here, they were all tricked but with Uzi they had a chance to get free from the Solver but instead they decided not to do anything more with her character. I wouldn't have been mad if they just like had her help and then she leaves on her own.
Also with the way the show is written unnecessary jokes, especially during the fight scene (trust I loved the hand shake but-) was distracting and wasted time. I honestly expected The Solver to pull Uzi down into a inescapable flesh prison and have a final tense stand off there with some back and forward shit talking. Maybe even have Cyn, the real Cyn not the one that was infected with the Solver, maybe intervene as a last moment 'Stop. You won't hurt big brother N anymore' sort of deal. Heck maybe even Tessa saying thank you before the body falls apart (hows having a ghost inside your body for eldritch).
I also am very mad Lizzy and Thad did not get a fight scene. You can not give them cool poses and not actually include them IN the fight! Overall I very much like how it ended, it felt like the natural ending we could have got beyond the solver being 100% dead but I think they missed out on a lot of opportunities that could have made it much better.
As someone that enjoyed it overall, the main problem for me felt like the timeskip just jumped past the arcs of Khan and N, it felt sorta like there was meant to be an episode in between that we never saw.
I have several things that I'll cover in a video coming eventually where I rewrite it, but some of the reasons include:
J did next to nothing since she was brought back in episode 3. In the final fight, she dodges a railgun bullet, got hit by a railgun, got decapitated, and threw one attack at Uzi which was blocked and then didn't appear until the credits
We didn't really see anything of N and how he behaves by himself. I was excited about this episode because N likely thought Uzi was dead so we would get to see how he behaves that way when he's forced to be independent and he could be more than just "Cute innocent guy who cares about Uzi more than anything"
There's many other things, but those are my biggest issues. I'll be covering them in my other video coming at some point this year.
The only thing I didn't like about ep 8 is that it felt a little rushed
5:49 hand in the background forms a thumbs up as cyn asks "right v?"
5:55 thumbs up becomes a thumbs down when cyn says "bad job, v."
just a cool detail i never noticed until now
I dont think V knew Tessa was dead. going off of episode 5(while the memory isn't what exactly happened. it's all we have) V didn't see Tessa die, V was confused on how tessa survived, but didn't act on anything as Tessa was one of the few things she had from the mansion. If V knew what Cyn was doing, she probably wouldn't have spoken badly of Cyn in front of Cyn.
"Anything to screw with Cyns plan" she says TO CYN
Well, V did say "Tessa is Cyn" in episode 8. In episode 6 she was just playing along, and she didn't really have much of a choice
@Spectres_Gaming_Corner or V learned after the fact, not knowing all along. She would've recalled the damaged astronaut suit in which Tessa would have died after exposure. Which only V noticed in episode 6 after confronting her about the sentinels. Then the planet suddenly sprouting tendrils means Cyn was in it. In all likelihood, V put two and two together.
1:51 It actually makes sense if you understand the story! :D
V : "different body same horrors, huh Cyn?"
On numerous occasions, we were able to see Uzi loosing control over her own body especially in episode 6 where they are in a facility and Uzi's finger was about to cut off you can see that it wasn't 'Uzi' who was in control when she snapped, on some occasions we saw her eyes changed colors to yellow(you can see Uzi's eyes glitching yellow in the elevator scene), indicating Cyn was in control! Same goes for this scene except Cyn's control was going in and out. In the flashback, we can see Cyn causing chaos in the ballroom making the word 'horror' in the dialogue has the meaning of chaos.
The reason Cyn was able to control Uzi, is because they're a different type of worker bots called 'Zombie drones' which can be seen in one of the episodes where N found a guide book/video about them, the Russian bot(forgot her name) is also a zombie drone
Uzi : "Can I talk to N?"
V : "I'll make sure you can't"
The reason why V forbids 'Uzi' to see N is because Cyn(who is in Uzi's body) has some type of obsession to N, proven in the last episode in the scene where Cyn is digging in to N's body(where she is screaming let me in numerous times)
2:20 Yes! She actually remembers and I'm pretty sure J also remebers, but for N, he doesn't remember fully
Why? In the early episodes, J stabbed N making him reboot and Uzi shot him with some type of gun(?) where he regenerates, he seemed lost, like he lost his memories. That's why in N's flashback, it wasn't really one as Uzi mentioned that they are retrieving memories that he 'lost'.
Why did we only see this trio? Maybe because they are the 'team' that are dispatched/assigned within/to the area the animation took place. I'm sure there are more, but we just didn't see them
2:40
V : "Uzi, I trust you"
V never really trusted Uzi as she knows Uzi is a zombie drone who can hurt them based on her experience with Cyn, but after knowing her better and spending sometime with her. V finally decided to leave N to her care as V meant to sacrifice herself so Uzi and especially N survives.
3:57
V keeps mentioning the 'job' they were supposed to do and leave, the job she meant was removing Cyn fully as she is a threat. That's why she despised Uzi, as she is a zombie drone and could be controlled by Cyn therefore not fully removing Cyn. But after episode 6, she trusts Uzi and decides not to kill her anymore and solely focus on the mission of removing Cyn. Therefore the reason V mentioned the 'job' again is because J has betrayed the mission and her by joining Cyn's side which is basically joining the enemy
Underrate comment.
4:05 I wouldn’t necessarily say N’s decision to tell V to stop is “stupid”, more like desperate.
He was very clearly suffering a panic attack during the “callback ping” and when he hears V’s voice, someone who he and Uzi assumed was dead (which admittedly may have affected his decision-making at this point), N almost immediately tries calling out to her to warn her of the solver, on the off chance that it’s the real deal, but Uzi covers his mouth, wondering if it’s a trap.
As V continues confessing her part in all of this, Uzi backs off, unsure what to do, before N yells at V to stop. This ended up saving her as she was actually confessing to an illusion, but at the cost of getting his own core ripped out.
“Bad job, V.”
I think she sacrificed herself for N not uzi, and she said she trust her because she knows uzi cares about N a lot as well
That's a damn point!...🖤💜💛😶🤔
I’ve gotta disagree on your take with episode 6’s ending, in the end episode 4 we see that V begins to trust Uzi once she realises that Uzi’s possession could be undone - this is shown in the bus where V is willing to take the fall for Uzi’s rampage.
Next by episode 6, Uzi has proven that the powers of the solver don’t necessarily mean you get possessed, and V also sees that this only happens when Uzi pushes herself. Pair this with her newly found suspicion of Tessa and it’s natural that the person she trusts the most is the one other person Tessa hasn’t told the “truth”.
I will say that not enough time was given for this arc to be noticeable, it was pretty much blink and you’ll miss it with stuff like the bus scene, but I felt like this was worth mentioning.
Edit: just wanted to add in that I loved the video, I probably wouldn’t have noticed the significance of the “we do our jobs” detail without it
True. The main problem is that we didn't get to see V's change of heart and it was too sudden, which is why I love Intermission so much as it fixes that and we get to see it if you know what I mean
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner yeah I totally agree, it’s probably one of the show’s main shortcomings and it’s why intermission is great
Honestly the hallway is the closest I’ve felt to fear in this show because that thing scares the shit out of V, someone who seemed to be a sadistic killer, as well as being pretty badass. V being scared honestly also served as a great way to hype up Cyn and get the point across to anyone that hasn’t gotten the idea already that Cyn is terrifying
this is why i love v so much✊, it just hurts to see the lack of reaction from n when she turned out to be alive, knowing how much she tried to protect him
She even tried to do so when his core flew right into his chest after Khan's ultimate THE DOOR usage. The moment Cyn dashed into attack, she closed herself and him with her hands
Exactly
That hallway scene is probably one of my favorites in the series. It was the characters at their best. (Except for Uzi, as she didn't really do anything.) It showed N's willingness to throw out his neck for others, basically scarficing himself so V would be safe. It showed how screwed up Cyn is, and how manipulative she was. And loving every second of tormenting V. And V. It recontextualizes every scene that she was in, for the better. It was all an act. And I love when Cyn was tormenting her, she faltered for a bit. Cyn for a few seconds seemed to give V some false hope that her and N could be together. It further humanizes V, that she cared so much for N, she was willing to make a deal with the devil to secure their future.
"Don't mess with us Murder Drones fans, we don't even like the show!"
Okay hold on
V CLEARLY stopped wanting to kill Uzi at the end of Episode 4. She actually cared for her in Episode 6.
Still the transition was pretty abrupt and I wish we had seen that a bit more, which is what makes Intermission so exceptionally good
The hallway scene literally almost brought me to tears because of the raw emotion put into her lines, and when V tried to tell Cyn that she could still do her job, the pure hopelessness and desperation, I FELT THAT. SO HARD.
And re-watching the series after that is like a sucker-punch when you see all the things that you now fully understand, like the small glimpse of Tessa in Cabin fever for example, it felt so random at first, but knowing everything now, it's sort of terrifying how early on Cyn was catching up to them.
I agree that there was a glaring missing chunk of the story regarding how V went from trying to kill Uzi in Episode 4 to caring about her in Episode 6, among other things like Uzi learning how to use her Solver form's flight and what started her hacking into N and V's memories. Thank God for 'Murder Drones: Intermission.' :) Though I still love 'Murder Drones,' I agree that the pilot and the last couple episodes feel less like bookends to the same series and more like separate shows to each-other that were made by the same people.
Well to be fair on the last point on the pilot and the latter episodes not connecting very well together in it. Just look at the name of the former and you'll get your answer to why that's the case here.
Pilots usual are meant to be a proof of concept for what the show is about and how it might go like with it's story ideas and tone with the concepts in them that might not always carry over to the finished project. So it's not too shocking then when the rest of a series get's made from it and it doesn't fully match up with what the Pilot was trying to go for like we see with both Hazbin Hotel and Helluva Boss pilots with how different they were from there main show counterpoints for example.
Murder Drones pilot is no different here with a few characters in it, having different personality's next to how they ended up in the rest of the series (Doll originally was going to act more like how Lizzy does or how Khan was meant to be series main bad villain back when the show was originally going for a ''Slice of life'' tone before that got change as you can tell) or some plotline's that wouldn't followed up on like with Uzi planning on killing all humans thing until that got drop once the whole ''Solver killing all of Mankind'' happened instead.
So yeah, I'm not saying that this suddenly fix's all of the show's issues or that you wrong on your points there since I do agree with you that the finished story here does have some missing elements to it (You can blame that on the fact the runtime on the videos is too short and it just not having enough episodes doesn't help on that front as well) and such.
This is just me trying to explain on why the pilot and the later episodes feel like, as you say in your comment, ''Two separate shows made by the same people'' and I think we shouldn't hold it against the series too much since again, pilots by the norm don't match up with the main show very well as we have seen many times by now over the years.
I still don't understand why people think Uzi needed to learn how to use the Solver in any capacity. *She's a machine: just input the feature, and it runs.* We're people seriously expecting a damn training montage?
@@crazy13alex Huh, Didn't know people were complaining about that tbh.
I thought it was more on how Uzi can use her Solver powers without getting takeover by Cyn and such.
@@Voxwoods By the time it posed a problem to Uzi or Doll, Cyn was a known entity. No one complained because it made sense. What people found odd was that Uzi was able to use the Solver with no practice immediately after The Promening's ending. The same with her being able to fly adequately between episode 4-6. Apparently they forgot that Uzi was a drone; no training to learn how to control new abilities.
@@crazy13alexGood to know on that then.
And yeah, Your point make's sense on it too so not disagreement from me on that haha.
Never looked at it this way. Very interesting!
In my opinion the show's ending wasn't too bad compared to a lot of shows I've seen, I just think it could've really used at least TWO more episodes to get more into the lore an everything.. Once the finale came out I rewatched all the episodes together and noticed how extreme the pacing was for some episodes. Really cool video anyway though :D made me appreciate V a lot more!!
Murder Drones has the same problem the first season of Hazbin Hotel had; way too much story for only eight episodes to properly tell. The critical difference being the eighth episode of HH was only a _season_ finale, and they'll have more time to properly flesh out their story and characters. Couple that with the questionable writing and direction decisions, and I get the feeling MD will be remembered more for what it could have been rather than what it actually was. =(
If Liam or Glitch would make comics or shorts, it would be perfect
Exactly. I love Absolute End as an episode, even a season finale, but since it's the last episode of the show entirely I really don't like it. Generally I don't care too much about character arcs since if something since there's more coming and it can be redeemed. But I really care a lot in the final episode since this is that last time we would ever see these characters
@@exter_princel2376 i would just prefer more episodes preferably, with the same animation.
BUT... It was already very clear that V remembers everything, I had already understood it before episode 8. However, a little presicion V says: “You work with cyn?” to J. So that means that it's not the case for V, so in my opinion it's cyn who pretended to be tessa to V, and who manipulated J and then J manipulated V.
I had missing parts to v and felt like there was more to her but didn’t care for the character too much. Episode 7 and 8 really developed her
4:01 To be fair. If N hadn't said anything, I would've *actually* died.
She might have, but N still had no reason to believe that V was alive, and he knows from Mass Destruction that Cyn can imitate V's voice.
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner True
so much stuff that happened off screen
The thing that absolute solverly shattered me is n and v’s relationships potential.
Saying that episode 8 is a bad finale for the show is like saying that N isn't the most fucking adorable thing ever.
Well, he isn't.
This isn't his true form-ALL HAIL DOG N :3
@@Araidiara ALL AHIRL DOG N
legs be honest.it could have been better.and why the hell would they end it so early? goddamn. like thats it? thats the last of the murder drones?
@@Thevamp1reking nuh uh
Am i the only one who interpreted the sacrifice as her trusting uzi with N? And was it not clear from episode 3 that she clearly at least knew WAY more about cyn and her motives than N did?
It was obvious she remembered at least something but what wasn't clear was how much she remembered, and why she didn't lose her memories
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner that's fair.
This is an amazing video man. Opened up my eyes, literally! I never looked back at her dialogue back then, and the way you explained it made total sense. Always loved V, and now I love her more!😭❤️
People think I simp for v because hotness or whatever, but I only started after episode 3 because I am a lore enthusiast. I could tell from there. There was lore building up. I simp because she cares enough to do anything to save N. She cares about him more than anything. That is someone I can respect and love.
So if someone berates me for saying I simp for v for bad reasons, I’ll just send them this video. It describes perfectly why I simp for v and why she is my favorite character.
i get the feeling if i was straight i would have a crush on her and j
@@DedF0r3ver fair enough
Dang, I think you know more about Murder Drones than I do.
And what does she get for her efforts?
Getting it rubbed in her face that she will never be with N as Uzis taken her place since V distanced herself… atleast she’s still alive tho
The release of ep.8 was a dark day for N x V shippers (me) 😔
But that does not get that rubbed in her face doe. What are you talking about?
@@Stixxamon he's talking about how V has to look at Uzi being N's gf instead of her
uzi has 2 hands and a tail, she can be with all 3 of them
1:35 that was cyn making a hologram of V, cuz V was outside with the campers and not with uzi
Still don’t think V needed to pretending she didn’t know N in the pilot. That scene seems like it was done for the joke instead of a logical reasoning.
I could also argue the whole insanity personality also didn’t make sense and it was done only for the joke.
Insane V is what drew me into the show but we should have gotten cold hearted straight-man V from the beginning.
1:37 That wasn’t actually V, she was the frozen lake. That was the absolute solver disguise as V. Her mannerisms, the way she stood, and talked looked like Cyn’s mannerisms. That wasn’t V.
Nah. Cyn's stance is somewhat different. V's arms look more.. relaxed? than in Cyn's iconic pose. Pretty sure it was just her acting like a crazy one, besides I believe I saw a similar pose in one of the V's reference drawings
Me during that scene: V is actually a better person than N!
Me on the last scene: Nah, she killed someone again.😤
And it was very clear that V had some memories from before they were turned into Murder drones, as she hinted at it in other episodes. She also said “Uzi… I trust you” right before she unalived herself because she was starting to realise how much Uzi meant to N, she was losing hope in saving humanity so she was trying to become a better Robot. She also sacrificed herself bc she knew that she would come back; Just like J did. Your point at 4:40 was 100% right, she cared for N and didn’t say anything because she knew the consequences if she had told him; that’s why she was so rude to Uzi- Uzi was a danger to her end of the deal because if N had become to close with her then she wouldn’t have been about to hold her end of the deal.
N's decision in episode 8 during the hallway scene isnt actually stupid, he shouted at her to stop to save her life from cyn which was giving V the illusion that SHE was N
N had no reason to believe that V was alive, and he already knows from episode 7 that Cyn can replicate V's voice. It was just a case of lazy writing that his instinct was correct.
The way you analyze the writing by noticing small, but just as important details as some things that V had said, which ultimately made her dialogue in the hallway scene impactful, is very impressive. Although I disagree with some parts in this video (probably because of bias, which is a bad thing on my part), it doesn't take away from what you talked about. Great job!
I didn’t go crazy at V’s revival bc I already new she had plot Armor
The Seen at 3:35 is CYN not V, since V was with N and the others outside the whole time, and it was clear tejas V knew more then N or us since she was constantly hiding things from N and Uzi, that’s why it was confusing at first why she had it out for Uzi. It was because she knew they would have to kill her to save everyone just like how “Tessa” (CYN) told N without telling Uzi.
I agree honestly, I wish Liam asked for more episodes man.
i never noticed this. thanks for opening my eyes 👁👁
One of my favorite Undertale soundtracks
Now I need to mentally patch up the lore while somehow making intermission fit
Thanks for explaining that scene. I really didn't know what it meant at first, because I'm not good at figuring things out. This revelation really has things make a lot more sense. And it's even noticable that V is constantly trying to hide her secret, for example, in The Promening. N asks V if she knows what they even are, but V simply tells him to not to pry into that stuff. I didn't know what that meant at the time, but suddenly, it's so clear. She's hiding the truth from N, because she doesn't want to scare him! It really makes me wonder whether Liam and the writers had just come up with this idea to tie some loose ends, or if they had this idea in mind for a long time.
bruh the series just ended so hurry and many stuff just remained unfinished....as a V fan im happy to see V got her full character arc but i mean J Doll and a bunch of other stuff just being a mess
Finally somebody agrees. That's EXACTLY how I feel about Absolute End.
It’s amazing! The finally was amazing!
I have no idea why people are disappointed in the finale, like none of these people actually give a clear reason on why its "bad". Seriously the only problem is that it was just a bit short, nothing else feels majorly bad about this finale and it all made sense to most.
I plan to eventually make a video where I not only talk about my problems with it but also talk about how to fix it. I want it to be as good as possible so it probably won't be coming for a while, but I'll go more in depth as to why I dislike Absolute End in that one.
(i copy and pasted this from the other comment i made replying to someone saying basically the same thing) i think the problem is just it felt rushed, it didnt feel like an ending, the ending to the episode too with the song forever showed us doll is still alive it seems and that theres still something in cyrosleep, it just felt like a big f** you to everyone. like why show something like cyrosleep and doll which both had a whole episode revolving around them if you just ended the series? and murder drones is an amazing series with so much potential, it just all felt unfinished, like i garuntee murder drones season 1 couldve gone on for atleast a few more episodes with the same ending and plot. episode 7 was such a good episode too, so episode 8 ending it and somehow managing to be worse just felt like a slap in the face.
1:37 actually that's cyn,V is outside with N,just see how she's stand
V was my favorite from the beginning, I had mixed feelings about her in episode 2-5, i was really sad that she “died” in episode 6, and episode 8 gives me more reasons to love her
V is actually a pretty well written character when you actually try to understand what is going on in the Murder Drones universe, for starters the scene in 1:20 that "makes no sense" of she saying that if they do their jobs that "thing" leave us alone, she is actually talking about Cyn, same thing later in the same episode when she literally says "different body same horros CYN", she knows cyn can control robots that has the AbsolutSolver mutation, so everything that V did in the show was to protect N from cyn, since faking hating him on the first episodes so he wouldn't learn about their mission, up to sacrificing herself for Uzi.
Did you watch the whole video?
I swear, MD is unwatchable if you don't watch videos like this alongside it 😂
I completely glossed over the entire V segment . I sort of thought it was just V panicking or something, but you explained it perfectly ! Amazing video❤
To be honest, V's impact is comparable to Uzi's. They both had different goals, but that competition between these 2 led to the solvation of defeating absolute solver
i hated episode 8, it was everything i didnt want in a murder drones episode it felt like. it was jsut a bad episode (if someone wants me to say why i can explain jsut ask me to in a reply.) but the hallway scene really made me rethink abt v as a character, from the start i always loved v and j, they were just really baddie and fabulous. i really wish episode 8 was better, i think the hallway scene was like the perfect scene however. it fit perfectly with an ending episode. episode 8 itself was just a horrible ending to murder drones in general though.
Exactly. It's alright as an episode and even would be fine as a season finale but it leaves so many loose ends and just doesn't work as an ending to the whole show.
3:19 wait did you actuallt beleive she'd die for more than a second LMFAO
3:43 Wait... I thought that one red eyed sentinel had been taken over by Doll? That's why it's eyes randomly went red and it became sapient, and obsessed with bothering lizzy (the popular girl who betrayed Doll)?
No, it went red in episode 6 when it first bit "Tessa" and has nothing to do with Doll
So I don't know if someone has said this is the part in ep 4 where V was with Uzi saying she's gonna kill Uzi if you watch V the stance and movement of V seems a bit clumsy and off it's almost misguided movements.
1:40- thats not V, its the solver pretending to be V to get under Uzis skin
Your analysis of the hallway scene and V's character are illuminating, but I respectfully disagree with most of the rest of your opinions. Episode 8 failed to tie up some loose ends, but was so fun and horrifying I can't complain.
When I went to bed this had 24 views. I wake up and see... ALMOST TWO THOUSAND?!?!?!??!?!?!
THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH, I have NEVER had a video grow as quickly as this one did.
I feel like it could have been a LOT worse than it was, most of the problems are minor things and don't ruin the episode
5:06
Wasnt that goddamm Clear in the flashback ep
When N gave V her glasses to clearly see?
Finolly!
That's why i ship v and n
This guy is underrated
I just wish murder drones had an extra episode or something to flush out the characters better, plus I also thought early on that N and V would be a thing. Will you be making any more MD content?
I know the finale isn't perfect. It should've been longer to explain everything but it's fine. The best part about this episode 8 was the fight scene, the animation, cyn is funny and terrifying, the background characters give me the laugh out of me, and V character development was the best part. The ending was good, but it led with a few things that would explore more. This episode 8 was great but disappointing for the runtime.
I agree with everything you said on the subject matter but I disagree with what you said in the beginning. The finale really *could’ve* been worse. While not perfect (by any means) it was overall adequate
lol
I was exaggerating a bit there, but the point is that I didn't like it
It isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, some people liked the action, others were focused on the lore and dialogue. Though, it still raised a lot of questions throughout the series. The other disassembly drones that had gone unnoticed and absent, the other planets’ attempts to fight Cyn, IF, and a very big if. Season 2 was being made, we may get more insight. But for now, episode 8 is all we got.
@@darktooth4576 ikr? Like we only got theories of the AS’s goal but why was it tryna eat *everything?* The humans I get but why the drones too? What happened to the other disassembly drones? Why’d they show Doll’s body at the end? Is the absolute solver just a sentient black hole? If so how? Just so many unanswered questions…
Something that i dont understand is why v keeps killing?(apart of the oil and etc)
She was killing to hold up her side of the deal so that Cyn wouldn't hurt N
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner im talking about the finale why v keeps killing in the finale?, apart of the oil and etc.
@@mateosoto619 Who did she kill in the finale?
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner in the class when uzi is exposing or May i am wrong :p
@@mateosoto619 ohhhhhhh
that was probably just for the oil
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Here before 100 trillion veiws 🎉
This one video has absolutely destroyed my understanding of the lore. I don’t agree
A lot of things are made kinda clear that you say arent
Looovvedd the vid tho , I agree Uzi and V tie for best
1:35 bud that was cyn not v
Ugh my poor baby 😭 I absolutely HATED the finale, but this scene was actually so amazing.
This has been one of the worst videos I heard about the series
first: I think you literally missed half the show from the start, V was shown to know what is going on from the first couple episodes, if you had paid closer attention to episode 3 timestamp 4:30-4:45 then 5:40-6:05 you would know that V knew what was going on right from the start, and she had only N's interest when she acted, So No even if V died in the elevator scene in episode 7 her character wouldn't be uncomplete you can deduce the missing parts easily because the writing in this show is so good it left enough bread crumps to finish the story before the finale
Second: The way you started the video calling the finale bad then giving literally zero explanation or example, or referencing another video where you discuss why you didn't like it is just bad argument formation, if you are gonna voice an opinion on the internet especially a controversial one you have to support it with points or personal preference otherwise you sound like you cannot form a good criticism or argument
Third: You didn't explain what efficient dialogue is, I still don't know what it is, or why it matters, which is the entire purpose of this video, from what I can deduce it is just voicing the important parts to make things clear????
Forth: My points are all formed in bias because I enjoyed the show very much and enjoyed the finale as I think it tied up the show very nicely so take everything I say with the perspective of you attacking something I like and find that it has very good writing with no argument to support it
TDLR: You didn't give an reason for your opinion, you missed vital conversation pieces and the points they made, you didn't explain the title of the video
I wrote too much
Thanks for the criticism, this is my first ever essay video on Murder Drones so I know it's not perfect. I'll try to improve these in my next Murder Drones video, whenever that is
@@Spectres_Gaming_Corner it is fine, we all start somewhere
I cannot judge you as much as a video creator but I can judge as a viewer
Some advice: When you want to talk about a beloved series with a big following you have to bring one of two major things
Either valid criticism from a professional stand point, supported by experience in the field or experience reading about the field of creating a story
Personal opinion, everyone is entitled to their own opinion no one can judge your own taste just state what you didn't like and why from your own view point
Otherwise you may accidentally garner a huge hate that might stick to your channel forever.
@@user-eu2mg8lw2t I would have gone into more detail about why I dislike Absolute End if I wasn't already planning to make a video in the future where I go more in depth into that, while this one was supposed to be about some of the best things it did, if that makes sense.
1:35 I mean
Brother Murder Drone was a master piece if you don’t have a gold fish brain. J makes sense, N makes sense, V makes sense. Everything makes sense
i think the points he made were reasonable, i mean murder drones is no way a perfect series, some parts in the story is glossed over or rushed or ended to quick. i think you just need to think abt it more to understand his points
Ngl I thought ep8 was good
Now i wanna know, why ep 8 is a bad finale ?
I have another video that I plan to eventually make where I talk about how to fix it, and I'll go more in depth on why I dislike it then.
i think the problem is just it felt rushed, it didnt feel like an ending, the ending to the episode too with the song forever showed us doll is still alive it seems and that theres still something in cyrosleep, it just felt like a big f** you to everyone. like why show something like cyrosleep and doll which both had a whole episode revolving around them if you just ended the series? and murder drones is an amazing series with so much potential, it just all felt unfinished, like i garuntee murder drones season 1 couldve gone on for atleast a few more episodes with the same ending and plot. episode 7 was such a good episode too, so episode 8 ending it and somehow managing to be worse just felt like a slap in the face.
@@DedF0r3ver EXACTLY.
@@DedF0r3ver i see, thx u
@@noazzyk8342 no problem :D
h u j
Bro's hating on a series just because of the characters.
bro fell off lol
did the video glitch and you meant to comment this on another video
The thing is it didn't change v
I feel so bad for V cause she never even got N, Ik its still a happy ending cause she was able to keep N safe and now that Cyn is dead, he is safe, but the Envy ship is so tragic bruh, the childhood friend never wins their love istg 😭
1:38 this would be quite childish but maybe V knows N used to have a crush on her and is upset that N is slowly changing his preferences to Uzi but maybe I getting a bit ahead of myself
Makes kinda sense considering V had a a crush on N in the past