The Reason Sean Strickland Spars So Hard
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Sean Strickland knocked out a sparring partner in a recent viral video. I reviewed lots of sparring rounds of his including him sparring 3 on 1 and I think I understand why he is the way he is.
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Question for Viewers: Do you do any hard sparring? How often and how hard?
I did some hard sparring last week mma
I set the pace with them before the sparring session. If my partner turns up, I turn up, so long as they're okay with it.
I've stopped. 2 hip resurfacings, a lot of metal in my jaw and age (I don't repair that quickly anymore), have made me reconsider my pleasures
Great breakdown as usual. I do spar hard once a week during camps because I’m trying to become champion of the world
Best wishes out of germany.
The intensitiy depends on people. Even if you give advise to sparr technical (we do 2 min rounds) it gets harder and harder depending on people. In my opinion it depends also on the guys weights. My buddys and me (heavy weight) do much lighter than middle weight guys. I think thats because of heavy weight ones do knock out and others don`t
I believe Icy Mike is right about a lot of things in this video. Yes, sparring should normally be light and playful. Yes, there is a time for hard sparring. Yes, Sean is crazier than he realizes he is.
The margin between what is considered light sparring and hard sparring thins the more you go up in skill level and career. I spent a lot of time as a paid sparring partner for pro boxers and mma guys. When your get used to defending from better and better guys you can take more casually. A great example of what looks hard but is fairly safe and light is the SIAM boxing guys. It looks super intense but they are doing a lot of little things to keep their partner safe while pushing the intensity.
Siam boxing sparring looks amazing, i would love to be a part of that
That’s not true at all that’s the Eccentric American and European sparring and pretty much A western culture phenomenon go to Thailand and train. There is not a single place where your fine people spying hard ever
@@upliftedlife9701 Thais do hard spar. You don’t see it as often because they fight much more frequently than western and European fighters, usually. But none the less they do
@@Lionheart_Kickboxing LMFAO OK buddy I’ll take your word for it and not my own experiences and life I lived their for 12 years to trains but thanks now I know .
@@upliftedlife9701 okay
Hard sparing is fine, continuing to tee off on your partner after they've stopped defending themselves is not.
Tee off is not what he did. He was saying don’t give up a little harder each time, and all to the body.
The only time you can spar hard is when you are wearing head gear and other protective gear.
@@atrainbrady3208head gear dont really protect yo brain tho
@@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938 it actually does, just not 100%.
@@thenotoriousmichaeljackson8938 I forgot to mention it also depends on the quality of the headgear.
"He's not a crazy as he wants you to believe, but crazier than he thinks" kinda describes knocking someone out; it's way harder than you might think and also way easier.
Kick wasn't excessive, but that guy was clearly out and falling for an eternity, wouldn't have hurt to catch him.
Indeed, if not checking on him (to not break the moment and work etc) at least spare your arms for something that isn't just completely leaving him to his long and fixable fall.
@@dusk6159man obviously has a very intense mindset, I get it.
I regrettably have not sparred much or in a long time. I have accidentally knocked a friend out while sparring, caught him and lowered him safely to the ground.
I'm willing to bet his reflexes are more honed than mine and the guy fell slow like a Punch-Out enemy, whole startup animation and everything.
I wouldn't want to spar with him like this,hell no. But if I'd step in the ring with a pro in contest prep, I'd expect that level of intensity.
Sean won’t stop till everyone has as much CTE AS HIM
That was my takeaway from this; this is a smoothbrain way to train and condition yourself, but it works for him and his training partners. At least in their eyes.
@@ireviewshtuff honestly I’m willing to bet that we’re only going like 80% and it just ended in an unfortunate manner.
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"End of the round Sean Strickland is the best Sean Strickland..." 3:47 meanwhile, end of round 1 at UFC 293
Awesome video , I love how you analyze and see things from the other person’s perspective, you are the man and this is a great way to start off the morning 👌
Thank you. That's why I don't always weigh in on these things. I usually only bother when I think I have something significantly different to say about it.
I think the biggest problem that people have is that Strickland posted this video on his personal Instagram, and seemed to take pride in the fact that he ko'd someone who is supposed to be his teammate and partner. He's never ever given off a vibe even remotely similar to that of a likeable, sane, and grounded person and that's why people (myself included), totally dislike the guy. He's overly proud of his violent tendencies and seems to give off the vibe of someone that will, at some point down the line, hurt someone outside the cage and/or kill them.
“Pride” or marketing.
Probably just a persona tbh. Makes him more marketable than just another good fighter
He is, by is own account I believe, an ex-neo nazi. He said that going to the gym is what makes him control his anger so I guess he has that in him.
@@ps5622 why would you put “I believe” in a claim that you are making?
@@eclipsewrecker because I might be remembering my shit incorrectly
I agree with you, but when you own your sparring partner, you've got to take care of your partner. You can go fast, intense, but controlled
Yes, train as you plan to perform! That doesn't mean kill mode.
Watching that clip, I think you are right. The partner was moving into the kick. It’s impossible to pull a strike enough to avoid your partner impaling themselves on it in every scenario.
This is a kind of conditioning we did a lot in Kyokushin, particularly for someone who was going to compete in a tournament or take a test. Since both were likely to involve back-to-back fights against a series of opponents, we'd simulate that in class by having the person fight a series of rounds with only seconds between them, cycling out their opponent with a series of fresh(er) ones.
I have vivid memories of, in a test, getting exhausted to the point I couldn't do much about defending body shots, getting hit hard enough to fall to my knees, and being pushed to immediately stand back up and finish the round strong. And that's the crux of it: like with Sean, we weren't trying to permanently injure or KO each other in these situations. We were building a response to exhaustion and testing the limits of that in one another.
It made particular sense in a competition format like Kyokushin, where a dominant performance can get you a decision victory after a single round, encouraging high-intensity from the get-go.
Does your KKS do punches to the head? I've always felt that lack in most forms of KKS is a massive detriment for actually fighting if people aren't cross training in something else that includes head punches.
@@Geburah82 There are styles of Kyokushin that allow head punches.
@@Geburah82 Yes, We have tournament allowed punch to the head. In my opinion like no punch to head tournament. Even with my My Muay Thai and Boxing background.
This reminds me of kyokushin Training. If I was younger I would like to train at did guy school.
I agree with you that there are times when hard sparring is ok and i also prefer light playful sparring cause you spar to improve each other !
i never had anything against sean. but after watching him give those bodyshots to a person who is on the ground and already surrendered made me lose some respect.
Yeah maybe... but we also don't know if that's a thing they do.
@@hard2hurt yeah maybe the dude tends to get tired at the end of the round and told him before hand if you see me getting tired, go hard on me to motivate me to get up and fucking go
Its body shots, who cares? Its clearly a fight prep, and Sean's punishing the guy for being tired.
To me it seemed he was trying to push him to get up. He had space and clearly had given up, its fucked up but by hitting his body and giving him space it made him push further and get back up
Light sparring most of the time in my opinion. But some medium and harder sparring is needed too.
100% on point, IMHO.
As someone who's one of the lightest in my gym, sometimes i wish i went harder in sparring because every time someone even tries to go hard i'm just kinda still going light and fucking around and taking shots
.. and then competition day comes and i'm like "fuck, i can't fight hard since i always go light and joke around in sparring" and i get gassed in half a minute from the nerves and lack of control of the pace
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Maybe don't compete, then? Which is completely fine, not everyone who fights NEEDS to be a pro or amateur fighter. But yeah, that mindset won't translate well to compensation, as you've said.
Spar light 80% of the time to build comfort and technique. You can have fun with it but still take it seriously. Then add in hard sparring when you're in camp for competition.
I'd imagine your coach would have you doing hard sparring to prepare for completion.
A lot of people think Strickland is a jerk because Strickland acts like a jerk.
My little brother (a blackbelt) our training partners and I used to beat the absolute crap out of one another in the 90's. Certainly don't recommend it now looking back but am super glad for it.
As usual, Icy Mike is on the money on this. The kick was only an ab kick, and dude leaned into it
Great points and point of view Mike🤙🏼
I know dickall about fighting, but I agree 100%. He understands what he's doing. Everyone involved appears consenting to the level of what they're training about.
I hope you’re right about “we don’t know what they agreed to beforehand” take because that changes everything. He could either be a great partner or an absolute shitbag 🤷♂️
Welcome to the world of consensual violence :)
It's true, without context there is no concrete answer
Great vid! Love the way you lit the background on this one!
Cause he has CTE
CTE? Are you saying chronic traumatic encephalopathy?
Sometimes this happens someone ducks into a kick or a punch, but it sounds like it's a regular occurrence from the various stories circulating.
Don't know if that's true though as it could be untrue.
Good analysis Mike. As a novice, my question is why wouldn't the training partner wear more protective gear? I can understand overheating, but wouldn't some body and head protection help them keep pace and be able to push Sean longer and harder while keeping their brains intact? What am I missing here?
Thanks for education!
Honestly different schools have different beliefs as far as head gear...I never wore it, because I do believe it encourages harder striking and further distances from what fight would be. I know Wonder Boy and others are big on it, but not everyone
I wear my head gear when I spar all the time. I never go into it without it. Even when I spar in the kids classes. For me, it’s about mitigating nose bleeds only. I still get them but I get them less frequently which allows me to spend more time sparring instead of cleaning myself up and cleaning up the mats.
But I don’t have a definitive response about the concussive mitigation. I have used a lot of different headgear and right now the Hyabusa is my favorite. It’s a little bit softer than most headgear so it absorbs impact a little more, but I agree with the comment about opponents getting encouraged to go slightly harder.
I keep going back and forth on its efficacy but I know that for my nose bleeds, there is nothing better.
You could have told us you were a Sean Strickland fan in soooo many less words. 😂
I can't agree he is a good training partner, he has said in the past something like "I don't like wrestling practice because I can't fuck someone up, I can't destroy some nerds", I believe saying that is alarming I wont advise someone to spar with him. Or Maybe I'm just pussy idk
He's a fine training partner, they just engage in stupid training.
You never told a joke before?
Let's f'ing go. Sensai Seth can take him. Sean Strickland ain't got nothing on the Chubbernaut! Let's f'ing go.
Gang Gang! I see my colors in the background!
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I had to watch the original a few times before seeing it clearly. One thing I think also works against Sean is that he strikes in the ring visibly the same as in practice. He is very loose in competition and it can make assessing power hard when power shots and light shots look the same
Spar all he wants in whatever way he wants with whoever he wants. Style bender just on another level.
Great breakdown.
I like light sparring at the beginning, then go harder as we feel each other out. I love strickland and think that beating down your partner sometime helps them and when im getting beat down i know it gives me stuff to think about.
Good vid. I agree that the roundhouse kick did not look all that hard; the other guy also did look exhausted and wasn’t keeping his hands up. At the same time, I would not say that just because we have video of Strickland sparring at different levels at different times shows that he is *always* in control of himself. It just shows that he is capable of controlling himself at least some of the time. If we had video of him remaining in control even when he felt really provoked, that would be more persuasive.
In other words, it’s easy to be playful/go light/stay calibrated when you’re calm. The real test is whether you can do so when you’ve been provoked or when you’re angry or pissed off.
I know very few ppl that are always in control of themselfs. Strickland isnt the type of guy you want to provoke. He is good sparring from what I’ve seen, super easy with girls fx (which I apreciate, some mtfks can give a chick hard time during sparring) but to chalenge him this way..he might control himself and still punish the crap outta you.
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I want to add a thought. I feel like Sean likes the end of the round best, or "end of the round" Sean is the best Sean, because:
He knows that there is most likely not another person who enjoys being all the way in the chaos/hell as much as he does. He lives there, and so that is where he is the most comfortable; in his home of hell.
Great stuff Mike, always making us think 👏
"He's not as crazy as he wants you to believe, but he's crazier than I think he realizes" embodies Sean so well
I feel like he is a man who fights like he is on the brink of death every day. He hates weakness in himself and others and holds all accountable. He may be off the cuff with what he says sometimes and we love him for it. That guy has the warrior spirit if you ask me.
Mr. Icy you got some of the best content on UA-cam
The name of this video should be called “in Sean’s defense”
My coach has us go hard!!
Ngl really perceptive observations and a really solid advice. Gj Mike.
Icy Mike is big time now. He has the full on UA-cam influencer lights in the back ground. Went from a sh*t talker/troll on the OG to a fancy youtuber. Follow your dreams kids.
I kinda doubted you knew about fighting just on your appearance, but you seem like you do have some fighting experience. I used to box not spar twice a week at a gym I went to for years and your point of why the guy got knocked out was because he was tired is on point. I remember I did a hard workout before boxing a guy who said he was new so he didn't want to go hard said okay cool cuz I'm exhausted. Dude tried to murder me and punches that wouldn't phase me usually were giving me that tunnel vision you get when you get whacked hard.
dude he was out of it for like 5 seconds before the kick came in
Strickland fast becoming my favourite fighter, consistently calling out people for PED use.
Accuracy is under rated!
All love bro ❤️
This is a great explanation. Good job!
Friday nights every week was fight night and you were given the option to watch, get in the ring or stay home!
Sparring should be Sparring and not fighting but as you stated, they seemed to be on the same page...till dude got knocked da fuq out! Lol
From clip he put his block up and dropped it before the kick hit him, like bro hold position till you have contact same rules with pads and gloves. It was a training kick the punch was 40 percent the kick 20 .
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Been on the other end of Bellator guy that don't know how to go easy and laid me out like a board. I used appropriate strength to defend myself the next time and got told by him I was going too hard. I am also far from pro level but know the "effort" levels that people are putting in and he shouldn't be doing that to a hobbyist. I don't go there anymore but for other reasons.
I liked this video good stuff icy Mike! Also p.s. you remind me of sensei Lawrence from cobra Kai badass teacher!
Good points for hard sparring. Even self defense is much different then light playful spar
Wtf. Shady. I haven't seen your videos posted in months!
That kick wasn’t thrown very hard. It almost looks like he collapsed from exhaustion
he got rocked but it was a soft kick the efficacy was based on timing and placement and the fact he was out of it yuh
My comment is for the algorithm.
In my uneducated opinion, Mike is spot on.
The “let’s fucking go” really does seem like it’s more for him, especially with him coming out that he battles with depression and alcoholism. Love the dude
Sean doesn't drink and he never has...
I really dislike sparring super hard. And I also dislike guys who will go super hard without discussing it.
Sean's definitely a bully and has made several statements about getting enjoyment from "beating on nerds in the gym".. He'll beat on weaker less experienced training partners because "it's good for them" but whines when a BJJ guy shows him why you don't make a certain mistake even though "it's good for him".
Getting beat up isn’t the same as getting your arm broken before ur UFC fight.
@@trilliam8806 last time I checked his arm was never broken.. Again, Sean just can't handle being the nail but loves being the hammer.
@@Broken_Orbital EXACTLY
@@Broken_Orbital he's still right though
@@VinylUnboxings the statement might be true but it doesn't Apply to this situation. 🤷♂️
Sean's arm was never broken before his UFC fight, it just got a little beat up.
1st 3 seconds I realized the partner dropped his hands
He brings the best out of his peers
They all get better with him
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That head kick wasn't thrown with bad intentions. It just landed flush and that happens some time.
I do feel the unhinged
I guess I can also explain my background, I have trained and been ranked (which I think doesn’t really matter) by professor Remy Presas, Wally Jay, Rick Ward, Norman Pedelahore, and many others, including my extensive training in in wrestling, etc etc, I love the things that I have learned from all of them and have always rejected the false knowledge and claims that are being monetized, that will continue to be my journey on this particular plane of existence.
Can you do a video about alex periera in ufc and israel being afraid
He’s the kind of guy that would suggest he has a body buried in his garden to the neighbor hood children just because he would get off on their fear
Damn. I am also that kind of guy.
sure harder sparring is beneficial for fighters, but more than less sparring footage ive seen on sean strickland is him going ham, and it seems like his whole gym is this way so its not really his fault. He also has a mentality of not losing in sparring, which prompts him to go harder
I disagree completely, dropped in at Jackson Winks and I sparred with a partner who said they wanted to specifically drill body shots and they kicked me In the head which knocked me out and left me with a TBI and it WAS NOT hard at all. The leg is just a big, heavy limb and if you swing it at someone's head with no control (he had no control with that kick) you can seriously hurt your partner
disagree with what?
I was rocked by a fairly light head kick once, just didn't see it coming and had a flash of light, my legs wobbled, got a headache etc...But we were ggoing 30%, just a very good setup from my partner who felt very bad about that afterward. ^^
I tend to agree with you on this….except for your initial “either….or…” claim. There are many experienced (but non-cognitive/understanding) and knowledgeable (but non-practical haha) fighters/athletes who cannot assess film and/or teach. Like the 4.4/40 dad I knew, who only told his sons to run faster to run faster.
time and a place, a top level martial artist shouldnt be koing anyone or hurting anyone in sparring.
And yeah Sean said Jiu Jitsu wasn’t his sport but additional context that you won’t sho for some reason shows that he was talking shit to Orlando saying he would beat his ass and a black belt in Jiu Jitsu doesn’t mean shit. Again you won’t add that context for whatever reason so yeah have fun with that lol.
You're kind of implying that someone talking shit justifies trying to permanently injure them during training... ok...
@@hard2hurt if it were training I’d agree. If Orlando turned his hips, I’d agree.
It seemed more like a misunderstanding from Sean and Orlando. Sean often talks sheet dishonestly; many of us do that. Orlando didn’t know him. Sean was a visitor. He was caught with a no hipped torque against a lazy extraction of a weak underhook. It’s a check often used in Greco.
So, when are we going to see you spar with Sean 🙏🙏🙏
On point as usual! I think the opponent was half knocked out by the left hook first.
Definitely wasn't 100% just inappropriate sparing partner for him.
He didn't go for ko.
He checked his opponents guard with a kick
Nothing is good or bad unless you have something to compare it to because context matters. Happy Monday Mike
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dude was mad his partner was giving up and KO'd his ass on purpose. dude has a bad temper.
The guy at around 07:30 I prefer being treated like that. You learn to get up. You learn if you go down it's not going to stop. You learn if you don't defend yourself it will hurt. He was probably preparing for a fight, maybe the first time in the ring.
☝🏼this real talk right here!
Not even a big Sean fan but you are accurate here Mike
As with most things in life, communication is so important. I went into a light sparring with the understanding that the rules were traditional karate tournament rules where someone calls point and you reset. They randomly decided to not do that and not tell me and just kept going, perhaps part of the test or it was just a mistake/misunderstanding and it was fine they took it super easy on me but I was confused. Communication beforehand is important SUPER important if at least one party decides to go hard.
Same thing happened when I sparred with certain people, including my coach. I'll match the intensity of my partner. If they want to go hard, I'll go hard. But then they get mad at me for hitting them hard. Little do they know that even when I spar hard, I'm not using 70% of the tricks I would in a real fight. So even if they're getting hit hard, I'm still taking it easy on them.
Thanks for explaining the whole situation. Didnt know about the time winding down and the guy was probably dazed from that left hook. The kick to the same side of his face kinda sealed the deal.
One of my coaches spars way too hard there is never any communication and he starts to provoke me by going with too much intensity i try not to match his intensity but usually when it goes too long i lose my cool and start to throw hard back... It lame and i hate it
That kick was not as light and flimsy as you are trying to lead us to believe. He didn't "sling" that kick lightly as a front kick. It was a switch kick roundhouse with the hip turning into it. It wasn't fully turned simply because his kicking technique is a bit sloppy. He's better with his hands.
Nah.. Stickland is just a capable bully. His sparring partners very often say he has bad etiquette which is why I love the Orlando video. He got in there with a coach that wasn't gonna let stickland hurt his fighters.
Sparing hard seems great when you are young, when you get in your late 40s and on yeah those day not longer seemed like a good idea. Who in their right minds wants to train with this guy? When you see the partner is done you don't act like it is a paid fight.
What happens when you spar with jokers? You get knocked out. Better to put a punching bag in the ring with him.
Just new fans voicing their opinions. In my day if you got to train with a UFC pro and you got smashed by them, you liked it! And came back the next day for more. Wanderlei Silva comes to mind
Sean Strickland would eat you for lunch! He is just a tough dude, that is not afraid of anybody!
cool, but I wish you talked about the kick. You sounded like you were going to, but then forgot. Why was it a soft kick, did it have to do with that nerve thingy majig?
I fucking hate Sean Strickland but that kick didn’t look like he was trying to KO him