Did anyone else snort in disbelief when the ex-husband accused OP of giving the daughter "daddy issues"? Like, dude, I'm pretty sure that would be your fault 😂
@@laquietagray9323 Why did the daughter ask to move in with the betrayed mother? Why didn't she ask her absent father, whom seems to think his only parenting duty is to throw money at the child? Bet dad has a GF that said, "Hell nah," to that drama like OP did?
Its called boundaries. And actions have consequences, she chose to do those things, get pregnant with her moms fiance and keep the baby. Did she really think her mom would want someone in her life who did such actions of betrayal and disrespect.
Good on you for standing your ground!! I do not believe in forgiving anyone who knows full well what they are doing and still decides to hurt and betray others.
She look at the innocent child and she remember the betrayal. Her daughter clearly became like that due to her fucked up way of raising. The child is innocent and I hope someday see that old b struggle and do not help her. I mean his grandmother.
At lest you didn’t marry that man , imagine being married to him and then this happened . Lucky escape . And she’s your best friend . No child / daughter, should be, your bestie , He’s and she are now going to be the parents of your grandchild , or so you thought , that thought alone is really bad . It’s horrible , I’m so sorry for you .it doesn’t matter if this child is not his , now it’s even worse , your daughter manipulated him , but they were still having a sexual relationship , he was unfaithful to you . She betrayed you . Some friend or daughter . Glad you have got on with your life . And put them behind you , leave them there . Be happy
If this is real, the first red flag was when her boyfriend had the same interests as her 22 year old daughter!? Like WTF! No man that age would ever have the same exact interests as a woman he is twice the age of. He was full of crap and a complete sociopathic chameleon. He has a full harem of side chicks, i guarantee at least half the women at her workplace have slept with him. He was the popular guy, who knew exactly what to say, and how to act to get whatever he wanted. This is why men and women should never, ever, date coworkers. The corporate world is full of sociopaths, you have to be one to put up with and actually enjoy that environment.
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Just NO! To all those people telling OP to deal with it. The standard they demand OP to follow should apply to the daughter. So gross they ignore that she's young and with an older guy who would've been her stepdad. OP's daughter is still evil. She can't accept that her son's future problems are ALL HER FAULT!
This must have been such an overwhelming situation, with so many emotions hitting all at once. A wedding and a grandchild on the way-definitely a lot to process.
Exactly, it tends to be emotional incest and now OP gets angry that her daughter comitted faux-incest by cheating with Op's fiancée? She caused the situation herself by turning to her daughter for her emotional needs when her ex was too busy. The daughter's acts were calculated, true, but aside from that her affair with Keith is exactly what a victim of incest could do. OP really needs to look into the mirror and see how she messed up her child.
@@inferiorinferno8859 What are you talking about? She planned how to sleep with her mother's boyfriend. Trying to present some childhood psychological reason why OP's daughter is being a nasty wh0re is only absolving her from responsibility.
I think you guys are overthinking it, whilst *yes,* your concerns *do* happen in some situations, it's a considerable extreme, and usually, it's better to find mutual respect and understanding with your parents (if they aren't toxic and unwilling to change, OFC) as "best friends" than to have fallouts later on in life
Being best friends doesn't mean you share your sex life with them, even real best friends shouldn't do that. Being attracted to your mom's bf or fiance is disgusting and shows how little respect she has for her mother . Ridiculous to blame their friendship for the daughter's blatant disregard for her mother.
@@Sattrax Not good advice considering this woman following her instincts is what caused this situation to begin with. She didn't got the affection of her ex-husband so she sought the comfort of her own daughter. She raised her daughter with emotional incest and now her daughter acted in one of the ways a victim of incest would respond. OP does need therapy though because she really needs to realize screwed over her daughter too.
I mean, one bad relationship after divorcing an emotionally and physically absent person isn't the end of the world. He barely took care of his child or wife because last I checked, people and relationships need more than just money to survive. A fake green pasture doesn't change the fact that the pasture she left was brown and long dead. She just needs to find a green pasture with real green grass, something genuine... and probably keep her daughter away from any man she's dating
She got married at 19 and pregnant at 20 yrs old.. so her husband paid for her college and masters, and then also probably paid for a caretaker for their child since he was also away from home most of the time. Husband is so loaded he should be the one helping the daughter instead of bugging his wife to take her back.
I feel sorry for the grandson. He's going to grow up to one hell of a story about himself if he ever hears it from relatives. He's going to ask "why doesn't grandma like me" if OP continues to be distant. I don't mean force yourself to have a relationship with him, but if you can't look at the kid without thinking of the betrayal you need therapy because that kid has been abandoned by enough people at this point. He doesn't deserve that anymore than OP did.
@@sammyf0x No, I don't mean forgive the daughter at all. She calculated all this. I mean go to therapy to deal with the grief and complex feelings OP has of betrayal. Child didn't do anything to deserve this. Or just go no contact but the therapy is for OP to feel better and not be angry and bitter going forward.
Emotional incest and its consequences. OP really has the self-awareness of an inanimate object not to see she used her daughter in the absence of her neglicent ex-husband which made her daughter a very twisted individual. It's sad, but this is a good example why parents need to form emotional boundaries with their kids.
@inferiorinferno8859 or... her father not being present actully did give her daddy issues and that contributed to her latching on to the first father figure she could. Its wile you think OP is completely to blame like the father wasn't emotionally and physically negligent and she didn't grow up knowing her father wanted nothing to do with her outside of finances. She saw her father in the OPs ex because he was financially stable, not love. She sees fatherhood as what you can monetarily provide for the baby because HER FATHER taught her that
But like a Phoenix she can rise from the ashes...cut ties with the betrayers, sell the house & take a Rd trip to anywhere... she'll end up where she's meant to be..🛣️
It was HORRIBLE that they slept together. But , the unimaginable , unforgettable thing is that the daughter PLANNED IT . She didn't care that she would hurt her own mom . She was only concerned about herself. 😢 Wow 😳 😡 I always thought the stories with sibling betrayal were disgusting . But , your own daughter is unimaginable pain . 🤯😫
great video, really well done! it’s always fascinating to see how family dynamics play out in such unexpected ways. that said, i can't help but think that the daughter's timing is incredibly selfish-getting pregnant right before her mom's big day? that's a lot to drop on someone. what do you all think?
When she couldn’t afford her things or whatever instead of the father talking about what the mom should do, why didn’t he take her in? Why didn’t he take care of the grandson get out of here?
In a real life situation- you're her MOM and you're abandoning her when she has nothing so you can live your best life. It's incredibly selfish- no wonder, she was more of "your best friend" than your daughter the whole time
Don't go after younger Men and you will not have this Problem. You are a old Women 46 Years old who wants a 38 years old Men. Older Women these Days have a big Problem to always want a younger Boyfriend. Your Daughter is 25 Years old, she is young and your Ex is young, they are both old enough to know what i best for them.
Knowing my own personal experience with an abusive stepfather, I wouldn't be surprised if Juliet was groomed by Keith and doesn't realize he's actually her abuser...
So she was " Groomed " at the age of 22?? No effing way, be real here, she's not a young child or teen, she's a full grown adult who knew exactly what she was doing.
@@arleneclark6369 She wasn't groomed by Keith, but she is a victim. Her mother very clearly admitted without being aware of it, that she sought the comfort she wanted from her neglicent ex-husband in her own daughter. That's emotional incest. Now her daughter wants to share the boytoy too. It's all on OP and she needs to see how much she screwed over her child.
@@Adiscretefirm Nice try to victim blame Juliet. She clearly is a victim of emotional incest- OP very much admitted she sought the comfort she couldn't find in her absent ex-husband in her daughter. That's literally emotional incest. Juliet's actions were calculated but understandable considering she was raised twisted to begin with. OP learnt the hard way how victims of incest can end up thinking it's okay to form incestual relationships themselves.
@@Adiscretefirmgrooming can be done to anyone who is considered vulnerable. Juliet would definitely be a vulnerable party considering the large gap in age, the lack of experience she's had, and other factors that create a power dynamic in USUAL situations like this. However, Juliet was not groomed for the sole reason that she clearly sought him out because he had money. She made that choice and therefore there is no evidence of Keith manipulating her to be in the relationship with him. She was the manipulator. Age is not the sole definer of grooming behavior
I know couples like that. One person doesn't care about the details of the wedding and the other does, so it works out fine. So him not being there the day before is less stressful for the bride.
If I was the innocent child. Yes. I will see my grandmother old, sick, struggle to live and I would be healthy, young. Can’t see that b. Let her struggle.
Did anyone else snort in disbelief when the ex-husband accused OP of giving the daughter "daddy issues"? Like, dude, I'm pretty sure that would be your fault 😂
@@KreativeGal for sure the oop should've told him it's his fault that his daughter is a 304 with daddy issues.
@@laquietagray9323 Why did the daughter ask to move in with the betrayed mother? Why didn't she ask her absent father, whom seems to think his only parenting duty is to throw money at the child? Bet dad has a GF that said, "Hell nah," to that drama like OP did?
How about Tom take in his daughter and grandson instead of always trying to make OP the responsible party in everything.
They never think of that! People always say op do this and that! But they never do it
He was irresponsible enough to bail outta his daughter's life, so no one has any expectations on him whatsoever. Not even his shameless daughter 😂
Daughter choose OP......not tom
It's not being "unforgiving" to no longer allow someone into your life who has betrayed you and will keep doing so.
Its called boundaries. And actions have consequences, she chose to do those things, get pregnant with her moms fiance and keep the baby. Did she really think her mom would want someone in her life who did such actions of betrayal and disrespect.
Good on you for standing your ground!! I do not believe in forgiving anyone who knows full well what they are doing and still decides to hurt and betray others.
I want to be this woman’s daughter
She look at the innocent child and she remember the betrayal. Her daughter clearly became like that due to her fucked up way of raising.
The child is innocent and I hope someday see that old b struggle and do not help her. I mean his grandmother.
At lest you didn’t marry that man , imagine being married to him and then this happened . Lucky escape .
And she’s your best friend . No child / daughter, should be, your bestie ,
He’s and she are now going to be the parents of your grandchild , or so you thought , that thought alone is really bad .
It’s horrible , I’m so sorry for you .it doesn’t matter if this child is not his , now it’s even worse , your daughter manipulated him , but they were still having a sexual relationship , he was unfaithful to you . She betrayed you . Some friend or daughter .
Glad you have got on with your life . And put them behind you , leave them there . Be happy
I think you can be friends/bestie with your adult children. Why not? It's not the same as doing that when they are minor children.
If Julia's father Tom thinks OP should forgive her and let Julia live with her, maybe he can let his loving snake of a daughter live with him.
If Tom was concerned abt the daughter then why didn't he take her in
Why should he do anything when he can blame everyone else?
Daughter choose mother ...not tom
Op is better than me. There would be no conversation WITH ANYONE. Scorched Earth.
If this is real, the first red flag was when her boyfriend had the same interests as her 22 year old daughter!? Like WTF! No man that age would ever have the same exact interests as a woman he is twice the age of. He was full of crap and a complete sociopathic chameleon. He has a full harem of side chicks, i guarantee at least half the women at her workplace have slept with him. He was the popular guy, who knew exactly what to say, and how to act to get whatever he wanted. This is why men and women should never, ever, date coworkers. The corporate world is full of sociopaths, you have to be one to put up with and actually enjoy that environment.
And now hes dating another mother hmmm, seems he has a type🧐
When you realize you raised a sociopath.
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It gets to me when mothers say that they daughters are there best friend ,You are the MOTHER, to guide them in the right way ❤
I can see it if the daughters are over 30. But yes, parents should be parents.
Just NO! To all those people telling OP to deal with it. The standard they demand OP to follow should apply to the daughter. So gross they ignore that she's young and with an older guy who would've been her stepdad.
OP's daughter is still evil. She can't accept that her son's future problems are ALL HER FAULT!
Never trust a treacherous dog, it never ends well 😊
Lol
This is some Jerry Springer sh*t
This must have been such an overwhelming situation, with so many emotions hitting all at once. A wedding and a grandchild on the way-definitely a lot to process.
Your daughter should never be your best friend! Seriously people!
Exactly, it tends to be emotional incest and now OP gets angry that her daughter comitted faux-incest by cheating with Op's fiancée? She caused the situation herself by turning to her daughter for her emotional needs when her ex was too busy. The daughter's acts were calculated, true, but aside from that her affair with Keith is exactly what a victim of incest could do. OP really needs to look into the mirror and see how she messed up her child.
@@inferiorinferno8859 What are you talking about? She planned how to sleep with her mother's boyfriend. Trying to present some childhood psychological reason why OP's daughter is being a nasty wh0re is only absolving her from responsibility.
I think you guys are overthinking it, whilst *yes,* your concerns *do* happen in some situations, it's a considerable extreme, and usually, it's better to find mutual respect and understanding with your parents (if they aren't toxic and unwilling to change, OFC) as "best friends" than to have fallouts later on in life
Daughters are exactly that daughters not a friend or bff. 🤮
Being best friends doesn't mean you share your sex life with them, even real best friends shouldn't do that. Being attracted to your mom's bf or fiance is disgusting and shows how little respect she has for her mother . Ridiculous to blame their friendship for the daughter's blatant disregard for her mother.
ah yes, the typical "He takes care of me but ignores me so I am going to find greener pastures..... oh no the pastures arent green at all! *cries*"
Dump your BF. Go LC with your daughter. Get therapy. Further interaction depends on forgiveness on many fronts. Follow your instincts.
@@Sattrax Not good advice considering this woman following her instincts is what caused this situation to begin with. She didn't got the affection of her ex-husband so she sought the comfort of her own daughter. She raised her daughter with emotional incest and now her daughter acted in one of the ways a victim of incest would respond. OP does need therapy though because she really needs to realize screwed over her daughter too.
I mean, one bad relationship after divorcing an emotionally and physically absent person isn't the end of the world. He barely took care of his child or wife because last I checked, people and relationships need more than just money to survive. A fake green pasture doesn't change the fact that the pasture she left was brown and long dead. She just needs to find a green pasture with real green grass, something genuine... and probably keep her daughter away from any man she's dating
Being too harsh? Being unreasonable? What about what Juliet and Keith had done???
OP was nice, I would tell the truth to my colleagues.
I agree with selling the ring but there's no way I would have torn up the check!
She got married at 19 and pregnant at 20 yrs old.. so her husband paid for her college and masters, and then also probably paid for a caretaker for their child since he was also away from home most of the time. Husband is so loaded he should be the one helping the daughter instead of bugging his wife to take her back.
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I cant believe these stories on reddit anymore but creative stories anyway
I feel sorry for the grandson. He's going to grow up to one hell of a story about himself if he ever hears it from relatives. He's going to ask "why doesn't grandma like me" if OP continues to be distant. I don't mean force yourself to have a relationship with him, but if you can't look at the kid without thinking of the betrayal you need therapy because that kid has been abandoned by enough people at this point. He doesn't deserve that anymore than OP did.
Hey, do you mean since the child deserves a grandma who loves him, then OP should get therapy to become one and forgive her daughter?
This has to be a joke. Stay away from the brat and her offspring.
@@sammyf0x No, I don't mean forgive the daughter at all. She calculated all this. I mean go to therapy to deal with the grief and complex feelings OP has of betrayal. Child didn't do anything to deserve this. Or just go no contact but the therapy is for OP to feel better and not be angry and bitter going forward.
@@JenniferJohnson-l3r She can def do that, the therapy is just for her.
The mother caused that! The sins of the parents fall on the children! That is why we have to be careful what we do!
Why not put the baby for adoption if you can't properly take care of him.
The story is a prime example as to why you do not need to be friends with your children
Yep first mistake being your daughter best friend telling her everything.
What in the Jerry Springer 🤯
Damn.... WTF is this.
Bad juju
Emotional incest and its consequences. OP really has the self-awareness of an inanimate object not to see she used her daughter in the absence of her neglicent ex-husband which made her daughter a very twisted individual. It's sad, but this is a good example why parents need to form emotional boundaries with their kids.
Im 50% sure it's an ai generated story. It's mainly from the phrase "maybe, just maybe".
@inferiorinferno8859 or... her father not being present actully did give her daddy issues and that contributed to her latching on to the first father figure she could. Its wile you think OP is completely to blame like the father wasn't emotionally and physically negligent and she didn't grow up knowing her father wanted nothing to do with her outside of finances. She saw her father in the OPs ex because he was financially stable, not love. She sees fatherhood as what you can monetarily provide for the baby because HER FATHER taught her that
@TheZombifiedFairy it is not about Sexual orientation.... Op's daughter is too materialistic & calculative.
Scandalous 🤦🏾🤦🏽♀️💔 WOW, just WOW 😳 I wouldn't let her back in my life either BC that level of disrespect came from Dad 🙆🏽♀️🙆🏽
wdym came frm dad?
True love doesn’t follow rules or conventions? Pretty sure it does if you’re a grown ass adult whose “true love” is a minor? Yeah you need jail time
Who's a minor? Juliette was 22 and out of college when her and Keith met and then hooked up.
@@VeggieMama722She was actually 25
Geez this whole thing was a dumpster 🔥.
But like a Phoenix she can rise from the ashes...cut ties with the betrayers, sell the house & take a Rd trip to anywhere... she'll end up where she's meant to be..🛣️
It was HORRIBLE that they slept together. But , the unimaginable , unforgettable thing is that the daughter PLANNED IT . She didn't care that she would hurt her own mom . She was only concerned about herself. 😢 Wow 😳 😡
I always thought the stories with sibling betrayal were disgusting . But , your own daughter is unimaginable pain . 🤯😫
Imagine when the kid finds out the whole truth
Damn thats fucked up.
great video, really well done! it’s always fascinating to see how family dynamics play out in such unexpected ways. that said, i can't help but think that the daughter's timing is incredibly selfish-getting pregnant right before her mom's big day? that's a lot to drop on someone. what do you all think?
What a fake ass story, who decides to not take money to pay for the venue and caterers?? lmao If anything she should've been demanding it!
When she couldn’t afford her things or whatever instead of the father talking about what the mom should do, why didn’t he take her in? Why didn’t he take care of the grandson get out of here?
In a real life situation- you're her MOM and you're abandoning her when she has nothing so you can live your best life. It's incredibly selfish- no wonder, she was more of "your best friend" than your daughter the whole time
what an unmotherly mother
Teach your daughters to uplift and support women, not treat other women like men do
Just nasty.
Wait, so u mean a woman who would not only cheat but cheat with her own mother's fiance can't be trusted?? No😮😮
Lolita???
Don't go after younger Men and you will not have this Problem. You are a old Women 46 Years old who wants a 38 years old Men. Older Women these Days have a big Problem to always want a younger Boyfriend. Your Daughter is 25 Years old, she is young and your Ex is young, they are both old enough to know what i best for them.
Knowing my own personal experience with an abusive stepfather, I wouldn't be surprised if Juliet was groomed by Keith and doesn't realize he's actually her abuser...
So she was " Groomed " at the age of 22?? No effing way, be real here, she's not a young child or teen, she's a full grown adult who knew exactly what she was doing.
@@arleneclark6369 She wasn't groomed by Keith, but she is a victim. Her mother very clearly admitted without being aware of it, that she sought the comfort she wanted from her neglicent ex-husband in her own daughter. That's emotional incest. Now her daughter wants to share the boytoy too. It's all on OP and she needs to see how much she screwed over her child.
@@Adiscretefirm Nice try to victim blame Juliet. She clearly is a victim of emotional incest- OP very much admitted she sought the comfort she couldn't find in her absent ex-husband in her daughter. That's literally emotional incest. Juliet's actions were calculated but understandable considering she was raised twisted to begin with. OP learnt the hard way how victims of incest can end up thinking it's okay to form incestual relationships themselves.
it says in the story she went after him because her ex wasnt as rich... 12:00 in
@@Adiscretefirmgrooming can be done to anyone who is considered vulnerable. Juliet would definitely be a vulnerable party considering the large gap in age, the lack of experience she's had, and other factors that create a power dynamic in USUAL situations like this. However, Juliet was not groomed for the sole reason that she clearly sought him out because he had money. She made that choice and therefore there is no evidence of Keith manipulating her to be in the relationship with him. She was the manipulator. Age is not the sole definer of grooming behavior
Keith was at work the day before the wedding?
I know couples like that. One person doesn't care about the details of the wedding and the other does, so it works out fine. So him not being there the day before is less stressful for the bride.
that mess up call the cops on him drag your daughter to rehab call him pedo
How is he a pedo when she was a grown woman when they met 😒😒😒
She was 22. 😂
i dont care the girl age the man age was near her mother age right nasty
@@user-bi8ko7kc6hShe was 25
@@sakura44560bull crap. She’s 25 he’s 38. Both grown. Daughter is a pos right along with him
She look at the innocent child and see betrayal? Sick old b.
Her daughter clearly learned everything from her.
That daughter got her ways from her mom. I can see that.
If I was the innocent child.
Yes. I will see my grandmother old, sick, struggle to live and I would be healthy, young.
Can’t see that b.
Let her struggle.
She look at the innocent child and see betrayal? Sick old b.
Her daughter clearly learned everything from her.