Best archery coach on UA-cam right here. Jeff teaches in an easy to understand and duplicate style like no other. Much thanks for helping all us guys trying to get better.
After watching this video I went out to shoot with these techniques and it just clicked for me. I’ve been, as you say… “struggling”. 😉 My shooting was much better after adjusting with your tips. Thank you! You’re a fantastic teacher and I appreciate your focus on sharing your faith! Keep putting out great content!
Archers!! Pay attention as this instructor is OUTSTANDING! Remember, you miss your target each time that you short draw your bow. I have been instructed to line up the point of my draw arm elbow with the point of my arrow and simply expand to release the shot. I have also learned that 45 pounds at full draw is NOT light or slow ! Enjoy! 🏹🏹🏹🏹
You are 100% correct. On all accounts. Very well said. Especially that last part. 45lbs is definitely NOT "slow" or "too light". It's more than sufficient to kill pretty much anything on 2 legs or 4. Anything that a compound bow hunter would use 70lbs or more to take down, I can take down with a 45lbs recurve bow just as easily.
Jeff, I've been shooting archery and bowhunting going on my 48th yr. Your never to old to learn something new ! How you explain things is down to earth and easy to understand ! I'm a Bowhunters Safety Course Instructor and showed people from youngest five yr. old to the oldest 87 yr old , shooting a bow for there first time ! Keep the Great Videos Coming ! Stay Safe & Healthy ! God Bless !
Greetings from England. Many years ago I shot target with all the sights etc ..a 15 year break away I started shooting field with a black hunter..I was crap..UNTIL I stumbled across this channel ..don't get me wrong there are some cracking channels out there BUT..this particular tutorial fix me with my particular set of problems well done sir and thank you in just two sessions ( after many) what an improvement and improved my confidence no end ..thank you ..
Jeff, I watched tons of videos on traditional bow. You are by far my favorite channel. You give the best instructions. I’ve been watching your videos all morning and I’m going to put some of your tips into practice and the one thing I appreciate most about you is you always thank the Lord! I really do appreciate that. Let’s me know what kind of person you are.
Thanks Jeff!! I'm only 12 months into Trad, and have been having difficulties with longer shot's and "flyers". So I stopped your video, went out the back and tried what you suggested! Well, it made HEAPS of difference and it's cleaned up left/right impact. Now to simply practice, practice, practice and let it evolve to instinctive. I shoot well purely instinctive 15 yards and under. It was the longer shot's that screwed with me lol Thanks again Jeff!! Much appreciated!!🙏
I never understood the phrase pulling through the shot. Terminology can mean different things to different people. Rolling off the fingers after hitting a consistent point in my draw & just that little extra that made my shoulder blades behind me pinch was something that really clicked with me. Two things that helped me for years was bow fishing with a recurve & shooting 3D. When I am training & shooting for muscle memory I never shoot a round of arrows into a flat target in the center of that target. For me that does the opposite of focusing on a spot. I adapted to hitting the target & then picking a spot in all directions until I was out of arrows. The great thing about traditional is that u train the brain for trajectory. Shoot the arrow straight like a golfer shoots a small ball straight. Your brain can do the rest for distance. Congrats on 10 K Jeff. You deserve it & everyone is richer for paying attention & learning 🎉.
Jeff, this was a great video and probably one of the best explanations you've done about getting accurate and I know for a fact that this works. I've only been shooting with Trad equipment for 6 months and struggled at 1st until I naturally started using these techniques of aiming instead of just flinging arrows (you know, "instinctive") hoping to hit the target. The accuracy immediately got better and now anything inside 20 yds is inside 3" groups and nearly automatic with multiple bows. It's probably time to start learning out to 30 yds. I would recommend every archer (especially the guys switching from compound) incorporate this into their shooting and the left/right will tighten up fast. The up/down will come with practice and the "instinctive" part takes thousands of arrows, so patience is the key. Around 13:30, you described beating target panic to a T, the surprise release/controlled release is the biggest factor in accuracy and consistency. I've been working by butt off trying to master it, Joel Turner (Shot IQ) goes through this in great depth.
Thank you for your time to explain and share your knowledge. I love this community for this, and for the joy of shooting 🏹 I’m the sole bow & arrow shooter at my local shooting 🔫club, learning everything online from experienced archers.
Thanks Jeff, I was plucking my string. I tried following through and behold, I started getting much better groupings. I was shooting all over the place but it feels good to know there is a fix. You say so much in your vids and sometimes it helps to watch them several times. I can watch it one time and pick up something here and then watch it again to pick up another secret nugget. I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you do. Thank You !
Jeff - hey I just can't believe how much you've helped me after watching this video - I've been shooting split, pulling it back and letting it fly. Squinting my left eye and seeing the arrow in my periphery has helped tremendously - little things I haven't been doing - still a work in progress but getting better - thanks so much!
You are so dammed right Jeff in what you say. Myself tried Instinctive shooting for 9 years, when I was a beginner and with splitfinger grip, then I started with GAP shooting, and it was a great improvement shoot , not at first but when I got used to it , it was great. Now after 2 years with Gap Shooting, I found myself shooting instinctive again without thinking about GAP, up to 20 meters distance, with longer Distances I use more Gap then Instinctive, and it works great, In August 2024, I won the Swedish Championship in 60plus (age) class , not Elite (yet). It looks like I found the safety to hit , thanks to GAP, and now when the GAP is in my brain, I don't need to think GAP, but do it by instinctive, hopefully after some more practice, I would be able to to hit good even on longer distances without using GAP, only Instinctive, Im sure it will work. But Im an aimer, I aim with the arrow tip. My next step is to use my range finder, and shoot on a Tennis ball, on all distances between 8-30 meters, when I hit 2 arrows of 3 in the ball from all distances, then Im ready to compete in the Elite class. Forget to mention that when I started with GAP, I went to 3 fingers under( to get closer to my eye) and a TAB, instead of split finger glove. I tried to tilt the bow to get a better sight view, but for me it works better to have to bow straight, with a small sight picture. The funny part is that Im a right handed person, with a left dominant eye, but I have forced my brain to hold my bow with the left hand, and draw with my right hand, and when I shoot, I close my left dominant eye, and look with my right eye ha ha, Im to old to start changing everything around. Started to shoot Longbow when I was 59, and in a couple of days I will be 70, so 11 years practice gives some results, any way, Im also a (State/Comunity) champion in Elit class this year, and Im not finished yet, next year I will try to be the best in Swedish elite class, all in 3D of course, I love to get into the woods and Forrests, eating berries Springtime, picking mushrooms in the autumn, etc and shoot. I spent most of my Bow years, with not so much practice, but learning the materials, of all different Arrows, tapering, arrow weights, Tip weights, FOC, and feather shapes, and now since last 3 years Im ready for practice with my Longbow( Great Plains 45lbs), I do as well excessive body training to stay in shape. I have gone from Cedar arrows to Bamboo Arrows, with Bamboo, it doesn't matter the spine, but the weight is important, and they are all taper in one end, its a big difference to build Bamboo arrows, compare with the wooden ones, but I love it! Since I started with GAP, I always use full length arrows, to reduce the Gap, but now when I shoot instinctive with aim, it works fine anyway, no need to cut. One disadvantage with full length arrows, is I can't do bare shaft tuning, so if it rains in the woods/Forrest, then its critical to keep the feathers dry( Turkey Feathers) Im also a member of a Viking club this year, and we have an Archer practice day once a week, to learn young and old people how to use a Longbow and arrows, so know shortly I will teach all the members how to make their own arrows, and what to think about. Thanks Jeff for your great informative Videos, I wish that your videos was available when I started 11 years ago, its a great help for many Archers.
Brother, love your dedication to love and the LORD above! This time last year, after taking serious damage to my right shoulder in February, I couldn't see myself pulling on a 50lb recurve again but LORD pulled me through and I'm ready to sight down along some arrows one more time .. Will let you know how I get on ... your advice much appreciated. Hallelujah [Holy One of Israel] Jah Bless [Peace in Jerusalem]
Expanding through the shot is so important! Your great tips are helping me improve and it's so much fun! I like your concept on instructive aiming and your comparison to aiming with iron sights.
Im learning archery and been doing itfor about just over a month, watch many videos, mostly Jake kaminski because he also says the same thing. Actually start my 8 week training next month, but learning alot from you guy's, this was perfectly explained and logically makes so much sense. Defently a new sub. I also post on my channel from a learners prospective, how i make mistakes and adjust. Because you are absolutely right, doing the same thing and it doesnt work, yet still doing it, just isnt going to help you evolve. Im learning on target because thats what im aiming for, competitive field achery, or indoors, even at 52 i believe in myself that i can achieve this goal ive set for myself. Did the same thing playing guitar, only with that i tought myself everything i do. Never had a lesson dont know music theory, but know what sounds good and adjust my chords to achieve that. Great video.
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 Absolutely, it's so handy these days having this technology to learn from people who's been doing archery for year's. I'm just waiting on my Samick bow, which will be my 3rd bow..all under 200#, but eventually I'll be getting a bow i can compete with..After I've done my course and join a club. And thankyou for the inspirational words.
Great explanation. I do reference the arrow but if I look directly at it, my shot is off. Maybe is all in my head but we there it is. I shoot spit fingers but this still works for me too. I have always said anyone can be a teacher, but not everyone can teach. Jeff explains this all in a very good way. Thanks Jeff. Keep those videos coming!
Jeff I totally agree I shoot primarily right handed. Completely instinctively. That being said I do shoot left handed when my right shoulder gives me problems. Shooting left handed I do reference the arrow for left right line up, but I must close my right dom eye. Some of my best groups are after switching back and forth left to right hand. Thank you for all you do for the archery community.
almost forgot, i am now making sure my draw arm and elbow stay inline with my arrow to the target as well. between these two things(release) wow! what a different world this has become for me to enjoy now. You have no idea. Grandpa would be so proud.
Spot on! When i got into trad archery like most id be shooting at a foam target, i could never really get the "focus" on a small spot thing,. After a while the foam target got boring, so i fitted all my arrows with judos and lighted nocks and tried "stump" shooting (soda cans and whatnot) WOW! That aim small miss small is a real thing! Found myself being able to hit a can at distances where before before id miss on a bigol foam target. Id like to point out also that 1 my eyesight was poor when i first got into trad acrchery making it impossible to see my arrow trajectory and 2 fear of loosing arrows disrupted my focus. Corrective lenses and lighted nocks fixed problem 1 Judos fixed problem 2 I also switched to "gapstinctive" which helped tremendously out passed 30 yards.
When I shoot at a foam target the same thing happens to me lol. When I get fed up with bad groupings on foam I grab some judo points and head into the woods to do some stumping. The aim small miss small works almost all the time when shooting at pine cones and other small targets. Stumping is very good training and loads of fun!
Hello All. I am a New Subscriber and have watched 3 Whole Video's. I am a 68 Yr old Fat man in Rotten Physical Condition. I can tell you that I've Been Around the Block More than Once and I may have something to add to help some of you on the Range. Long story for another day, I just got a Cheap New Recurve Fiberglass Bow. It's only a 30# "Youth" bow. I got it for physical Conditioning. I have trouble just drawing it to Full Draw. I need to get into good enough shape to be able to control the bow at full draw. Many of you may need to think about "Strength Training" for the Very Same Reason. Good Luck and Be Honest with yourself about your condition. Don't be a Joe B&%$*!!!!!
Jeff thankyou so much for all your knowledge and time spent making such awsome videos. You changed me feom split finger to three under and my god the groups the accuracy it just appeared i think your a fantastic bow shooter and a mentor of mine now i sit and watch all your videos over and over thankyou jay
Nice video. Enjoyed it as I am an instinctive archer. I try not to focus too much on form. But posture is #1. Slower diliberate draw. Kinda like yours and the older guys together.
This is great one thing I would mention as far as the dominant eye is to make sure you’re not twisting your head to much to get your dominant eye over the arrow. Took me forever to figure out I was twisting my head so far to the right to help get my eye over the arrow that the bridge of my nose was actually getting in the way and my left eye was taking over, always had to keep the point of the arrow to the right or I’d miss left due to this.
Thanks for all your instinctive lessons. I used to shoot and hunt years ago and decided to take it up again. I recently purchased the Sanlida hermit x10 that you reviewed and am very pleased with it but haven’t tried it in the Adirondacks where I live for deer hunting this fall. Thanks again for your videos I’m getting back in the game.
I've shot nothing but horsebows (hungarian, türkish an assyrian types) only, with the arrow on the right side (I'm right handed) and thumb release. These principals apply no matter what, so I DO highly recommend this channel to everyone who is in love with any style of archery. It's really something special, I can't explain why... archery just does something to you, awakens something in you that has the potential to elevate you.
Excellent video I'm just a novice using a Samick Sage, but I already love shooting. If I'm not shooting my bow, I'm thinking about shooting or watching your videos. Thank you for all your tips. Lord knows I need them! lol
Thank you Jeff this video might be one of the most significant Archery videos that I have watched When you quoted 'The Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting the same result '....It suddenly struck me that was exactly what I have been doing with my purely instinctive aiming method ever since I started Archery a year ago. !. When i started out in 3D archery I had no absolutely no idea how to aim, so I instinctively (sic) used a purely instinctive aiming method. To this day I never see any part of the arrow whatsoever ,even in my peripheral vision. At targets up to 15 yds I concentrate my focus on the spot that I wish to hit on the target and release . At greater distances I concentrate my focus on a spot above the target ...the gap depending on the distance . My accuracy has been just as you said , .....good one shot and bad the next. ......I have tried everything I can to improve including numerous sets of arrows and several weight bows but still do not see the consistency that I seek despite being meticulous about my shot cycle. Next time I am up the 3D range I am going to try using the arrow tip as an aiming method together with instinctive gapping ....thank you Jeff
I got a clicker, since then my vertical alignment has improved 100%. And the right and left has finally improved as well by tuning an arrow, now I know if it goes right or left it is me and not the arrow. I shot messed up arrows for months, wonder how could I posible get consistant, sure enough it was imposible shooting arrows under and over spine and 100 grains difference between some of them, wonder why I was shooting dirt! This channel helped me a lot to lear about well tuned arrows and how they should fly. Thank! Praise to the Lord!
You’re exactly right! I’ve had some arrows that just wouldn’t group together no matter what even nock tuned and bare shafted completely different from other brands the exact same weight and spine labeling cut and tipped identical , for one of the worst examples a set of Legacy’s but then a lot of it was the nocks, simply switched them out to a GT and amazingly they were much better go figure!🤔
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 exactly, i am learning, there are so many variable, the string, the draw, the arrows and its part, our form, etc, etc, i guess it just about getting to know my equipement and get control over it and practice a lot so as you say, it becomes second nature, like driving a stick shift car.
I'm new to trad archery. Very new. I'm working on shot sequence and just learning to shoot again. (30 years of shooting Compound). I have absorbed all of your content on UA-cam, not to mention other folk's content. Here is a question: As I am learning to shoot and also tuning the bow and getting the right arrows. How do I make sure my bow and arrow set up is right when I know it could be my form and sequence that is messing my shots up. Thanks for all your content. You have a great way of explaining things. God Bless Proverbs 12:27
Great Stuff!!! I will tell y'all this works Amazing as long as the SHOOTER does his job. I've built this in to my shot sequence!!! Thanks Jeff, you've truly saved me years on figuring this out!!!
This video might be one of the most important for new instinctive shooters like myself. Man I would love to shoot a round with you sometime. Also side note, the ol’boy’s you shoot with seem pretty cool. Love it man.
Jeff.....thank you for the awesome video. After I watched your video I shot a few arrows and what a difference. My groups got tighter and more accurate. Using the arrow as my sight made a huge difference! I'm going to continue practicing so I build consistency in my shots.
Yet again, another fantastic video. I'm still new to traditional archery. Less than 2 weeks in. I have some consistent shots, and some that go way off. I think I need to figure out proper shooting form. Some shots feel right as soon as I release, others not so much. I'll give your tips a shot as I continue to learn. Thanks again for the video!
It is just little drawback to get arrow to target after "anchor" and arrow go to target BUT it is hard to remember to me.... anyway this method is the key!
my first traditional 3d shoot is in a couple weeks at the bowmen club! cant wait to get there and shoot with some of you guys! thanks for all the tips!
just found your channel, and subbed. thank you, you've helped allot, just joined a club, wanted to do it all my life, at 44 I thought right I'm going to do this, bought my first bow last week, shot with it yesterday, and from the moment I picked up the bow 3 weeks ago, I knew this was for me, my ancestors were the welsh archers, they used to pull 250 lbs bow, atm I can only use a 30lb bow, but I want to go traditional, I also want a longbow. they thought I was self taught, I've not done the beginners course yet but I'm shooting gold, but not consistently, I am now in the red mostly, but I've not found my form yet, I'm going to also go 3D shooting, this has helped me so much, thank you.
been a pleasure watching, I'm also going to try and shoot from the jaw, is it landvotes technique not sure but it's string walking, I'm going to try another club also, theres some nastiness from the one that runs it towards me, if I had the land I'd set up a course like you, I might find a farmer that could be accommodating. thank you, will watch more today before hitting the field today. 👍@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
How does old mate with the wild release and elbow sticking out shoot accurately? Seems to work for him. The thing with archery is we need to do what works for us. Good tips in Jeff's vids!
Jeff, Great video. Any tips on helping me would be greatly appreciated. I’m a right handed shooter but lost significant vision in my dominant right eye and now must use my left eye so I can’t sight directly down the arrow. I guess it’s like a right handed shooter who is left eye dominant. I struggle with grouping especially left to right. Any tips would be appreciated. Thanks and God Bless you! Leon
Jeff you have really helped me learn instinctive shooting. Do you have any tips for a left handed shooter thats right eye dominant? Im shooting with both eyes open right now. Thanks again for a great channel! God bless
Great material, I've been wondering about the eye dominance issue. I'm very strongly right eye dominant, fortunately I prefer to shoot right handed as well.
Thanks for the reply Jeff! As a Christian, you will appreciate this. So, I have been working my way through reading the whole Bible, I finished the New Testament and then started working through the Old Testament and am currently in Psalms. Friday, I bought my recurve and gear, along with my 4 year old son's first youth recurve, and wondered if I made the right choice to do so, should I have made that purchase for myself etc. When I get home, I was on Psalm 103 for the day. Psalm 103:5 says, "He fills my life with good things. My youth is renewed like the eagles!" What a message, that the Lord would speak to me, on such a day, in regard to such a specific matter. I am blessed with good things, even material blessings such as my new bow. This recurve took me back to my childhood days of shooting traditional gear, so as to renew my youth in a way. There is no way this was coincidental. How would I start reading, miss a few days here and there over the course of months, and accidentally wind up on this passage on the day I got back into traditional and had these concerns and worries. It is amazing the Lord can use a stick and string to speak to us and show his providence and love for us. Thank you for being a Godly man in the archery world. I just wanted to share that with you. May the Lord bless you in all that you do!
Yes he surely does! Just one example in my life was a couple months ago I stumbled across one of the bows that we had built that I so badly wanted to keep but needed the money as usual and when it was back in my hands it meant far more knowing that it was a special gift from Him! I still get teared up when I hold something so sacred to me that could only come from above knowing that during the times of sacrifice to make ends meet the things I had to let go have been given back to me tenfold and more! That’s how I know He loves me and yes it can be with a simple thing like a traditional bow ❤️
Archers ! Notice the draw arm elbow is lined up with the point of the arrow! The anchor point is consistent the draw weight of the bow is reasonable the arrow s are spined cut to proper length with FOC incerts ! Enjoy!
Jeff, Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for great instruction. I just got back into traditional archery, haven't shot a recurve since I was a kid, I'm 46 now. I got a Bear Super Grizzly 40# @ 28" factory bow with D97 flemish string, to keep the bow easily controlled for starting back with traditional gear. I got Gold Tip 400 Hunters, 100gr brass insert, 125 tip, Gold Tip GT nock and (3) 4" right wing shield cut Gateways. I want to be around 500gr. and this should be right around that. I think I am right around a 28" draw and can probably shoot a 29" arrow just fine, but thought I'd cut my arrows to 30" both to insure the broadhead stays well in front, as well as to keep the spine with the 400s from betting too stiff. They seem to fly very well to me, but admittedly, I am only shooting up close, 7-10yds for now, trying to work on form and fundamentals. I shot once @ 20yds at hay bales, that didn't stop the arrow too well lol, but flight looked perfect. What are your thoughts. Any downside to shooting a little longer arrow than needed?
No sir not really, you could easily shoot a little longer arrow as long as it doesn’t get too weak and actually shoot even better if you’re paying any attention to it while at full draw, you’ll probably be fine with that setup 👍🏻
I do pretty much the exact same thing with my release. I call it "pulling thru the release". When i reach my anchor point, i squeeze my shoulder blades together, and slowly pull thru as i relax my fingers and let the string slide off. It made for a much smoother release, and it also became a whole alot easier to do once i switched from using a glove to a finger tab. People get too caught up on the semantics, and whether or not they are "gap shooters" "instinctive" "string walking" etc. And they get way too damn caught up on whether what someone is doing is "traditional" or not. The words "aim" and "sight" are basically curse words lol. I mean, if you think back to our hunter-gatherer ancestors thousands and thousands of years ago...the longbow archers of medieval Europe..the horseback archers of the Mongolian Empire..or the Native American hunters who took down plains buffalo with their bows and arrows. If you think that there werent many, many archers thru-out the entire history of the bow & arrow, who didn't use some method of aiming, like "gap shooting", to be consistently accurate with their bows, then you are lying to yourself. And if you think that if you went back in time, and showed a medieval English longbow archer, or a Paleolithic hunter-gatherer, how to make a bowsight and how to use it to improve their accuracy, that they would scoff at it, you are nuts! We worry so much about whether or not what we're doing is "traditional" enough, that at some point it becomes a bit absurd. I guarantee you that plenty of archers thru-out history have utilized methods of aiming, such as gap shooting and string walking. And its just ridiculous to think that they wouldnt.
This is similar to split vision but the way you are utilizing it is not quite split vision. It’s like you are using split vision to get into alignment and then fully finishing shot instinctively. I have been using this a little bit it’s hard for me. All the great instinctive archers would recognize what you are saying especially at longer rangers. I have been focusing on getting my archery form correct after years of bad habits and I cannot gap shoot, it’s sooo difficult for me, yet, I am coming to realize it’s difficult for me because my form sucks, I cannot repeat a rock solid shot sequence. I am slowly getting better, understanding a lot more about how I should be doing things and slowly implementing them. Changing too much too fast has not been helpful though, been working on 1 thing at a time until I can finally say, that is proper form and I have tailored it to my body type. Watching shooters like yourself and others who were amazing shows the basic form and how that basic form needs to be modified for each archers body type and shooting style. Rock solid alignment, proper anchor for an individuals forearm length, follow through with a crisp release are all the essentials, and each of these things need to be adjusted to the individual.
A roll of "glue backed" carpet makes a good target for any trad' archer. Inexpensive, similar to 3D, no distracting 'bullseye', easy to pull,....on the ground or hanging from a brach my carpet rolls helped me to concentrate on 'the spot'. Shooting between 10 and 25 yards builds my 'instinctive' skill.
One thing that I've noticed over 30 years of traditional instinctive shooting is people are way over bowed. That is one thing that hurts archers trying to shoot traditional.. Good instruction..
Jeff I have been struggling and fumbling around lately. Completely falling apart after 54 years of shooting a bow instinctively I'm acting like I've never seen a bow in my life thanks for kickin me in the head and reminding me to do what I already know how to do. Because when I look down that shaft like you're talkin about it's game on brother
Jeff, question for you. I am shooting a recurve now and following your advice on high foc arrow set ups with 100gr brass inserts and 125gr point. Question, I shoot a 60lb 29.5" Hoyt Spyder compound and am considering taking this approach with my 29" compound arrows. I'm thinking a 29" Gold Tip 300 with a 100gr brass insert and 125gr head, and mayne three 4# feathers to steer goos fixed blade heads. I know you are a traditional guy, but any insight of this will work well on the compound side too? Thinking a heavy 500gr arrow out of a compound will quiet it more and hit really hard. Thanks!
Absolutely! I set up some Hunter Pros 340 spine last year with 100 grain brass and 125 exodus heads for a 65# Mathews cut 27.5” four fletched and they were awesome so yes! Watch some of Troy’s videos The Ranch Fairy , he lives by the Ashby concept of heavier FOC for compounds👍🏻
I’ve recently begun watching your videos. And my only question is what has driven you to shooting 3 under vs split finger from the past. I’d love to hear from you on this. Thank you
Thanks and yes sir I’ve gone back to three under mainly because it’s just super accurate for me personally and I love the feel however I still shoot split with certain bows especially those that are short or tillered for split, they just shoot better that way and I can do both without very much adjustment at all.
Thank you for the explanation. I starting shooting about a month ago and made great progress quickly, it’s great to know that you switch back and forth depending on the bow. Thank you for responding sir. I will continue to listen to your advice through my journey.
Great educationel video ,i train every dat with nu bow.i in de started with comound bow, but not 2years with the traditional bow and I should have done that much sooner but bether late then never,but i do have a question , about the rifle and crossbow , i am a left shooter but with the bow i am right despite my left dominant eye, now i don't shoot that bad but it can always be better ,do have a tip for that too, keep on the Good Work Greetings from the Netherlands
Point blank means one point of aim which will give a kill or hit in relationship to paper or live target. Think of it this way . Each zeroed sight pin represents point blank range for different distances
Funny, Armin Hirmer tells it the other way aroud with instinctive shooting: Never look at your arrow! look like you throw a stone" I did that for 3 years. Now I am going to try Jeffs methode.. see what happens
If your left eye dominate but, right handed you have a couple of options. Shoot left handed, close you left eye, the hardest to do learn to compensate. In other words move your aim point over.
Love your content. Having an extra camera near the target and editing where the arrow hits the target into your video would 10X the value of your video 😊
Jeff just getting back into archery after years. I shot a 60 pound compound as a kid, i bought a 40 pound longbow but holding anchor for more than a second a difficult due to the draw weight. Wondering if dropping down to a 35 pound would be a good idea or just putting in the work to build up my muscles to get used to the 40 pounds. Any suggestions? I will primarily be shooting 3Ds and targets
Well I gotta say I've started doing what you said and I'm at least grouping. I wasn't really doing that before. It was just shotgun pattern. I shoot a fifty pound recurve. It is tearing my arm up I gotta make me a arm guard. Thanks for sharing your Faith and God Bless
Man that’s great! I know it’s definitely easier with a bow you can at least hold for a couple seconds to go through the process and I’ve been doing it with some of my heavier recurves and it’s a little more difficult but not much at all 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 well today my Amazon bow broke in two pieces. I'm in the market now for a new bow in the 45# range. Where do I find some of those longbows like you shoot? I got a bunch of 500 grain arrows.
@@Marlin7830 yes sir most of mine are custom bows that I actually built back when we were doing that, however there are of course lots of great bows on the market and it’s really just depending on how much you want to spend on them, I’ve got several friends shooting Black Hunters with no problems and of course 3rivers has some really good price point bows like the Bodnik with 30 year warranty and personally I love a takedown or ILF longbow they’re the smoothest 👍🏻
Much appreciated thank you. I like those longbows that got the deflex limbs that go straight when you string em. Anyway I got a old bamboo backed one I made long time ago I'll shoot it till I get The Bow.
I just shot tonight in the pitch black dark. I had a flashlight propped up in front of the bales. All I could see was the bales in the light. At 15 yards I shot excellent. My biggest shot collapse is looking around the target to see what will destroy my arrow if i miss.
Best archery coach on UA-cam right here. Jeff teaches in an easy to understand and duplicate style like no other. Much thanks for helping all us guys trying to get better.
You are correct. Jeff is the man
Everyone one thinks they are a professional on UA-cam and Facebook. These guys are hacks using information that was already known decades ago
i second that. ive been reading and watching a ton on trad archery. i really take to his teachings. works for me incredibly well.
After watching this video I went out to shoot with these techniques and it just clicked for me.
I’ve been, as you say… “struggling”. 😉
My shooting was much better after adjusting with your tips. Thank you!
You’re a fantastic teacher and I appreciate your focus on sharing your faith! Keep putting out great content!
Thanks brother I appreciate that 👍🏻
Hoping I have the same outcome watching this before I shoot my bow 😎 Good job
Archers!!
Pay attention as this instructor is OUTSTANDING! Remember, you miss your target each time that you short draw your bow.
I have been instructed to line up the point of my draw arm elbow with the point of my arrow and simply expand to release the shot. I have also learned that 45 pounds at full draw is NOT light or slow ! Enjoy! 🏹🏹🏹🏹
You are 100% correct. On all accounts. Very well said.
Especially that last part. 45lbs is definitely NOT "slow" or "too light". It's more than sufficient to kill pretty much anything on 2 legs or 4. Anything that a compound bow hunter would use 70lbs or more to take down, I can take down with a 45lbs recurve bow just as easily.
Probably the most honest reviewer and trad guy on the net.
LOVE his vids!!
Jeff,
I've been shooting archery and bowhunting going on my 48th yr.
Your never to old to learn something new !
How you explain things is down to earth and easy to understand !
I'm a Bowhunters Safety Course Instructor and showed people from youngest five yr. old to the oldest 87 yr old , shooting a bow for there first time !
Keep the Great Videos Coming !
Stay Safe & Healthy !
God Bless !
Thank you sir!
Greetings from England. Many years ago I shot target with all the sights etc ..a 15 year break away I started shooting field with a black hunter..I was crap..UNTIL I stumbled across this channel ..don't get me wrong there are some cracking channels out there BUT..this particular tutorial fix me with my particular set of problems well done sir and thank you in just two sessions ( after many) what an improvement and improved my confidence no end ..thank you ..
Thank you so much!
Jeff, I watched tons of videos on traditional bow. You are by far my favorite channel. You give the best instructions. I’ve been watching your videos all morning and I’m going to put some of your tips into practice and the one thing I appreciate most about you is you always thank the Lord! I really do appreciate that. Let’s me know what kind of person you are.
Thanks Jeff!! I'm only 12 months into Trad, and have been having difficulties with longer shot's and "flyers". So I stopped your video, went out the back and tried what you suggested! Well, it made HEAPS of difference and it's cleaned up left/right impact.
Now to simply practice, practice, practice and let it evolve to instinctive. I shoot well purely instinctive 15 yards and under. It was the longer shot's that screwed with me lol
Thanks again Jeff!! Much appreciated!!🙏
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Excellent teacher, because he demostrates right shooting sequences!
I never understood the phrase pulling through the shot. Terminology can mean different things to different people. Rolling off the fingers after hitting a consistent point in my draw & just that little extra that made my shoulder blades behind me pinch was something that really clicked with me. Two things that helped me for years was bow fishing with a recurve & shooting 3D. When I am training & shooting for muscle memory I never shoot a round of arrows into a flat target in the center of that target. For me that does the opposite of focusing on a spot. I adapted to hitting the target & then picking a spot in all directions until I was out of arrows. The great thing about traditional is that u train the brain for trajectory. Shoot the arrow straight like a golfer shoots a small ball straight. Your brain can do the rest for distance. Congrats on 10 K Jeff. You deserve it & everyone is richer for paying attention & learning 🎉.
Jeff, this was a great video and probably one of the best explanations you've done about getting accurate and I know for a fact that this works. I've only been shooting with Trad equipment for 6 months and struggled at 1st until I naturally started using these techniques of aiming instead of just flinging arrows (you know, "instinctive") hoping to hit the target. The accuracy immediately got better and now anything inside 20 yds is inside 3" groups and nearly automatic with multiple bows. It's probably time to start learning out to 30 yds. I would recommend every archer (especially the guys switching from compound) incorporate this into their shooting and the left/right will tighten up fast. The up/down will come with practice and the "instinctive" part takes thousands of arrows, so patience is the key.
Around 13:30, you described beating target panic to a T, the surprise release/controlled release is the biggest factor in accuracy and consistency. I've been working by butt off trying to master it, Joel Turner (Shot IQ) goes through this in great depth.
Thank you for your time to explain and share your knowledge. I love this community for this, and for the joy of shooting 🏹 I’m the sole bow & arrow shooter at my local shooting 🔫club, learning everything online from experienced archers.
Thanks Jeff, I was plucking my string. I tried following through and behold, I started getting much better groupings. I was shooting all over the place but it feels good to know there is a fix. You say so much in your vids and sometimes it helps to watch them several times. I can watch it one time and pick up something here and then watch it again to pick up another secret nugget. I can't tell you how much I appreciate what you do. Thank You !
Man I really appreciate that!
Jeff - hey I just can't believe how much you've helped me after watching this video - I've been shooting split, pulling it back and letting it fly. Squinting my left eye and seeing the arrow in my periphery has helped tremendously - little things I haven't been doing - still a work in progress but getting better - thanks so much!
That’s awesome buddy! Thanks so much for watching 👍🏻
You are so dammed right Jeff in what you say.
Myself tried Instinctive shooting for 9 years, when I was a beginner and with splitfinger grip, then I started with GAP shooting, and it was a great improvement shoot , not at first but when I got used to it , it was great.
Now after 2 years with Gap Shooting, I found myself shooting instinctive again without thinking about GAP, up to 20 meters distance, with longer Distances I use more Gap then Instinctive, and it works great, In August 2024, I won the Swedish Championship in 60plus (age) class , not Elite (yet).
It looks like I found the safety to hit , thanks to GAP, and now when the GAP is in my brain, I don't need to think GAP, but do it by instinctive, hopefully after some more practice, I would be able to to hit good even on longer distances without using GAP, only Instinctive, Im sure it will work.
But Im an aimer, I aim with the arrow tip.
My next step is to use my range finder, and shoot on a Tennis ball, on all distances between 8-30 meters, when I hit 2 arrows of 3 in the ball from all distances, then Im ready to compete in the Elite class.
Forget to mention that when I started with GAP, I went to 3 fingers under( to get closer to my eye) and a TAB, instead of split finger glove.
I tried to tilt the bow to get a better sight view, but for me it works better to have to bow straight, with a small sight picture.
The funny part is that Im a right handed person, with a left dominant eye, but I have forced my brain to hold my bow with the left hand, and draw with my right hand, and when I shoot, I close my left dominant eye, and look with my right eye ha ha, Im to old to start changing everything around.
Started to shoot Longbow when I was 59, and in a couple of days I will be 70, so 11 years practice gives some results, any way, Im also a (State/Comunity) champion in Elit class this year, and Im not finished yet, next year I will try to be the best in Swedish elite class, all in 3D of course, I love to get into the woods and Forrests, eating berries Springtime, picking mushrooms in the autumn, etc and shoot.
I spent most of my Bow years, with not so much practice, but learning the materials, of all different Arrows, tapering, arrow weights, Tip weights, FOC, and feather shapes, and now since last 3 years Im ready for practice with my Longbow( Great Plains 45lbs), I do as well excessive body training to stay in shape.
I have gone from Cedar arrows to Bamboo Arrows, with Bamboo, it doesn't matter the spine, but the weight is important, and they are all taper in one end, its a big difference to build Bamboo arrows, compare with the wooden ones, but I love it!
Since I started with GAP, I always use full length arrows, to reduce the Gap, but now when I shoot instinctive with aim, it works fine anyway, no need to cut.
One disadvantage with full length arrows, is I can't do bare shaft tuning, so if it rains in the woods/Forrest, then its critical to keep the feathers dry( Turkey Feathers)
Im also a member of a Viking club this year, and we have an Archer practice day once a week, to learn young and old people how to use a Longbow and arrows, so know shortly I will teach all the members how to make their own arrows, and what to think about.
Thanks Jeff for your great informative Videos, I wish that your videos was available when I started 11 years ago, its a great help for many Archers.
Brother, love your dedication to love and the LORD above!
This time last year, after taking serious damage to my right shoulder in February, I couldn't see myself pulling on a 50lb recurve again but LORD pulled me through and I'm ready to sight down along some arrows one more time ..
Will let you know how I get on ... your advice much appreciated.
Hallelujah [Holy One of Israel]
Jah Bless [Peace in Jerusalem]
Expanding through the shot is so important! Your great tips are helping me improve and it's so much fun! I like your concept on instructive aiming and your comparison to aiming with iron sights.
Thanks brother it’s true!
Im learning archery and been doing itfor about just over a month, watch many videos, mostly Jake kaminski because he also says the same thing. Actually start my 8 week training next month, but learning alot from you guy's, this was perfectly explained and logically makes so much sense. Defently a new sub. I also post on my channel from a learners prospective, how i make mistakes and adjust. Because you are absolutely right, doing the same thing and it doesnt work, yet still doing it, just isnt going to help you evolve. Im learning on target because thats what im aiming for, competitive field achery, or indoors, even at 52 i believe in myself that i can achieve this goal ive set for myself. Did the same thing playing guitar, only with that i tought myself everything i do. Never had a lesson dont know music theory, but know what sounds good and adjust my chords to achieve that. Great video.
Thanks so much and always remember to keep it fun!
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Absolutely, it's so handy these days having this technology to learn from people who's been doing archery for year's. I'm just waiting on my Samick bow, which will be my 3rd bow..all under 200#, but eventually I'll be getting a bow i can compete with..After I've done my course and join a club. And thankyou for the inspirational words.
Great explanation. I do reference the arrow but if I look directly at it, my shot is off. Maybe is all in my head but we there it is. I shoot spit fingers but this still works for me too. I have always said anyone can be a teacher, but not everyone can teach. Jeff explains this all in a very good way. Thanks Jeff. Keep those videos coming!
Thanks for sharing this knowledge for us Jeff .... may God continue to bless you brother!
Jeff I totally agree I shoot primarily right handed. Completely instinctively. That being said I do shoot left handed when my right shoulder gives me problems. Shooting left handed I do reference the arrow for left right line up, but I must close my right dom eye. Some of my best groups are after switching back and forth left to right hand. Thank you for all you do for the archery community.
Yes sir thank you so much!
almost forgot, i am now making sure my draw arm and elbow stay inline with my arrow to the target as well. between these two things(release) wow! what a different world this has become for me to enjoy now. You have no idea. Grandpa would be so proud.
Spot on!
When i got into trad archery like most id be shooting at a foam target, i could never really get the "focus" on a small spot thing,. After a while the foam target got boring, so i fitted all my arrows with judos and lighted nocks and tried "stump" shooting (soda cans and whatnot) WOW! That aim small miss small is a real thing! Found myself being able to hit a can at distances where before before id miss on a bigol foam target. Id like to point out also that 1 my eyesight was poor when i first got into trad acrchery making it impossible to see my arrow trajectory and 2 fear of loosing arrows disrupted my focus.
Corrective lenses and lighted nocks fixed problem 1
Judos fixed problem 2
I also switched to "gapstinctive" which helped tremendously out passed 30 yards.
Sounds like a lot of fun!
When I shoot at a foam target the same thing happens to me lol. When I get fed up with bad groupings on foam I grab some judo points and head into the woods to do some stumping. The aim small miss small works almost all the time when shooting at pine cones and other small targets. Stumping is very good training and loads of fun!
@@Zephyr1202 Yep absolutely prefer stumping, I'm a big boy too so wondering around the woods I trick myself into a little exercise.🤣
Hello All. I am a New Subscriber and have watched 3 Whole Video's. I am a 68 Yr old Fat man in Rotten Physical Condition. I can tell you that I've Been Around the Block More than Once and I may have something to add to help some of you on the Range. Long story for another day, I just got a Cheap New Recurve Fiberglass Bow. It's only a 30# "Youth" bow. I got it for physical Conditioning. I have trouble just drawing it to Full Draw. I need to get into good enough shape to be able to control the bow at full draw. Many of you may need to think about "Strength Training" for the Very Same Reason. Good Luck and Be Honest with yourself about your condition. Don't be a Joe B&%$*!!!!!
Jeff thankyou so much for all your knowledge and time spent making such awsome videos. You changed me feom split finger to three under and my god the groups the accuracy it just appeared i think your a fantastic bow shooter and a mentor of mine now i sit and watch all your videos over and over thankyou jay
Great info, Jeff! I've been in a slump for a week or two and this video helped me TODAY. Thank you!
Nice video. Enjoyed it as I am an instinctive archer. I try not to focus too much on form. But posture is #1. Slower diliberate draw. Kinda like yours and the older guys together.
I love watching your videos because you break down every detail down to be simple.
That bow is sooo beautiful!!! Sooo beautiful.
This is great one thing I would mention as far as the dominant eye is to make sure you’re not twisting your head to much to get your dominant eye over the arrow. Took me forever to figure out I was twisting my head so far to the right to help get my eye over the arrow that the bridge of my nose was actually getting in the way and my left eye was taking over, always had to keep the point of the arrow to the right or I’d miss left due to this.
Thanks for all your instinctive lessons. I used to shoot and hunt years ago and decided to take it up again. I recently purchased the Sanlida hermit x10 that you reviewed and am very pleased with it but haven’t tried it in the Adirondacks where I live for deer hunting this fall. Thanks again for your videos I’m getting back in the game.
Man that’s awesome! I’m sure you’ll do well with it up there 👍🏻
Jeff, thanks again for bringing high quality content! I love this UA-cam Channel! Every new video is a Highlight!
Thanks!
I've shot nothing but horsebows (hungarian, türkish an assyrian types) only, with the arrow on the right side (I'm right handed) and thumb release. These principals apply no matter what, so I DO highly recommend this channel to everyone who is in love with any style of archery. It's really something special, I can't explain why... archery just does something to you, awakens something in you that has the potential to elevate you.
Been waiting for more content from you.I appreciate your pleasant attitude and genuine presence.
Thank you sir I really appreciate that!
Thanks so much for these tips! Im in my 2nd week of traditionnal archery and this lesson did help a lot!
Excellent video I'm just a novice using a Samick Sage, but I already love shooting. If I'm not shooting my bow, I'm thinking about shooting or watching your videos. Thank you for all your tips. Lord knows I need them! lol
Thank you Jeff this video might be one of the most significant Archery videos that I have watched
When you quoted 'The Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting the same result '....It suddenly struck me that was exactly what I have been doing with my purely instinctive aiming method ever since I started Archery a year ago. !.
When i started out in 3D archery I had no absolutely no idea how to aim, so I instinctively (sic) used a purely instinctive aiming method. To this day I never see any part of the arrow whatsoever ,even in my peripheral vision.
At targets up to 15 yds I concentrate my focus on the spot that I wish to hit on the target and release .
At greater distances I concentrate my focus on a spot above the target ...the gap depending on the distance .
My accuracy has been just as you said , .....good one shot and bad the next. ......I have tried everything I can to improve including numerous sets of arrows and several weight bows but still do not see the consistency that I seek despite being meticulous about my shot cycle.
Next time I am up the 3D range I am going to try using the arrow tip as an aiming method together with instinctive gapping ....thank you Jeff
Thank you for watching and I sincerely hope that it’ll help in some way 👍🏻
I got a clicker, since then my vertical alignment has improved 100%. And the right and left has finally improved as well by tuning an arrow, now I know if it goes right or left it is me and not the arrow. I shot messed up arrows for months, wonder how could I posible get consistant, sure enough it was imposible shooting arrows under and over spine and 100 grains difference between some of them, wonder why I was shooting dirt! This channel helped me a lot to lear about well tuned arrows and how they should fly. Thank! Praise to the Lord!
You’re exactly right! I’ve had some arrows that just wouldn’t group together no matter what even nock tuned and bare shafted completely different from other brands the exact same weight and spine labeling cut and tipped identical , for one of the worst examples a set of Legacy’s but then a lot of it was the nocks, simply switched them out to a GT and amazingly they were much better go figure!🤔
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 exactly, i am learning, there are so many variable, the string, the draw, the arrows and its part, our form, etc, etc, i guess it just about getting to know my equipement and get control over it and practice a lot so as you say, it becomes second nature, like driving a stick shift car.
@@Cuisinenomade1 yes sir exactly 👍🏻
Great video I'm new to archery and was feeling stuck I will definitely use this when I get home from work today thank you
Hopefully it’ll help you get dialed in!
You are very helpful with your tips. This has help my accuracy for grouping tremendously. Thanks...I have become a fan of your site.
Thanks!
Omg why couldnt i found you on youtube sooner. Simplicity. Thank you sir
I’m glad you did now! Thanks so much 😁👍🏻
I'm new to trad archery. Very new. I'm working on shot sequence and just learning to shoot again. (30 years of shooting Compound). I have absorbed all of your content on UA-cam, not to mention other folk's content.
Here is a question: As I am learning to shoot and also tuning the bow and getting the right arrows. How do I make sure my bow and arrow set up is right when I know it could be my form and sequence that is messing my shots up.
Thanks for all your content. You have a great way of explaining things.
God Bless Proverbs 12:27
Totally get why I shoot left alot now , just from watching the release tactics you use compared to trying to let the string go. What a difference
Another great video. Thanks for the information.
Another great video mate.Your advice has greatly improved my scores and my enjoyment. Keep em coming.
Thanks!!!!!!
Thanks again Jeff. Your videos are always helpful to me.
Great Stuff!!! I will tell y'all this works Amazing as long as the SHOOTER does his job. I've built this in to my shot sequence!!! Thanks Jeff, you've truly saved me years on figuring this out!!!
This video might be one of the most important for new instinctive shooters like myself. Man I would love to shoot a round with you sometime. Also side note, the ol’boy’s you shoot with seem pretty cool. Love it man.
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Jeff.....thank you for the awesome video. After I watched your video I shot a few arrows and what a difference. My groups got tighter and more accurate. Using the arrow as my sight made a huge difference! I'm going to continue practicing so I build consistency in my shots.
Man that’s awesome! Thanks so much for watching 👍🏻
Fantastic video!! I’m improving daily because of your teachings. Thank you!
Yet again, another fantastic video. I'm still new to traditional archery. Less than 2 weeks in. I have some consistent shots, and some that go way off. I think I need to figure out proper shooting form. Some shots feel right as soon as I release, others not so much. I'll give your tips a shot as I continue to learn. Thanks again for the video!
Lol it’s true that you know as soon as you release if it’s on! 😁👍🏻
It is just little drawback to get arrow to target after "anchor" and arrow go to target BUT it is hard to remember to me.... anyway this method is the key!
I just started watching your channel and it has helped me out immensely. This video is great. Thank you.
Thanks so much I really appreciate that!
Awesome videos!! I was meant to shoot a recurve bow and not a compound bow. Just the art of this makes me satisfied shooting!
Okay I am now hooked on this channel. Great instruction, personality, and accent!
One of the best channels out there.
Thanks brother!!!!👊
my first traditional 3d shoot is in a couple weeks at the bowmen club! cant wait to get there and shoot with some of you guys! thanks for all the tips!
just found your channel, and subbed. thank you, you've helped allot, just joined a club, wanted to do it all my life, at 44 I thought right I'm going to do this, bought my first bow last week, shot with it yesterday, and from the moment I picked up the bow 3 weeks ago, I knew this was for me, my ancestors were the welsh archers, they used to pull 250 lbs bow, atm I can only use a 30lb bow, but I want to go traditional, I also want a longbow. they thought I was self taught, I've not done the beginners course yet but I'm shooting gold, but not consistently, I am now in the red mostly, but I've not found my form yet, I'm going to also go 3D shooting, this has helped me so much, thank you.
That’s awesome to hear and I’m sure you’re going to enjoy every minute of it like I do and thanks so much for subscribing to the channel !
been a pleasure watching, I'm also going to try and shoot from the jaw, is it landvotes technique not sure but it's string walking, I'm going to try another club also, theres some nastiness from the one that runs it towards me, if I had the land I'd set up a course like you, I might find a farmer that could be accommodating. thank you, will watch more today before hitting the field today. 👍@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998
How does old mate with the wild release and elbow sticking out shoot accurately? Seems to work for him. The thing with archery is we need to do what works for us. Good tips in Jeff's vids!
Thanks Jeff. I've watched this video numerous time and it's helped me soooo much!
Jeff,
Great video. Any tips on helping me would be greatly appreciated. I’m a right handed shooter but lost significant vision in my dominant right eye and now must use my left eye so I can’t sight directly down the arrow. I guess it’s like a right handed shooter who is left eye dominant. I struggle with grouping especially left to right. Any tips would be appreciated.
Thanks and God Bless you!
Leon
Jeff you have really helped me learn instinctive shooting. Do you have any tips for a left handed shooter thats right eye dominant? Im shooting with both eyes open right now. Thanks again for a great channel! God bless
Great material, I've been wondering about the eye dominance issue. I'm very strongly right eye dominant, fortunately I prefer to shoot right handed as well.
🎉 tightened my groups immediately. Thanks and great info
Thanks for the video, another really good one. Fun watching the 3D afterwards.
Thanks for the reply Jeff! As a Christian, you will appreciate this. So, I have been working my way through reading the whole Bible, I finished the New Testament and then started working through the Old Testament and am currently in Psalms. Friday, I bought my recurve and gear, along with my 4 year old son's first youth recurve, and wondered if I made the right choice to do so, should I have made that purchase for myself etc. When I get home, I was on Psalm 103 for the day. Psalm 103:5 says, "He fills my life with good things. My youth is renewed like the eagles!" What a message, that the Lord would speak to me, on such a day, in regard to such a specific matter. I am blessed with good things, even material blessings such as my new bow. This recurve took me back to my childhood days of shooting traditional gear, so as to renew my youth in a way. There is no way this was coincidental. How would I start reading, miss a few days here and there over the course of months, and accidentally wind up on this passage on the day I got back into traditional and had these concerns and worries. It is amazing the Lord can use a stick and string to speak to us and show his providence and love for us. Thank you for being a Godly man in the archery world. I just wanted to share that with you. May the Lord bless you in all that you do!
Yes he surely does! Just one example in my life was a couple months ago I stumbled across one of the bows that we had built that I so badly wanted to keep but needed the money as usual and when it was back in my hands it meant far more knowing that it was a special gift from Him! I still get teared up when I hold something so sacred to me that could only come from above knowing that during the times of sacrifice to make ends meet the things I had to let go have been given back to me tenfold and more! That’s how I know He loves me and yes it can be with a simple thing like a traditional bow ❤️
Archers ! Notice the draw arm elbow is lined up with the point of the arrow! The anchor point is consistent the draw weight of the bow is reasonable the arrow s are spined cut to proper length with FOC incerts ! Enjoy!
Jeff, Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for great instruction. I just got back into traditional archery, haven't shot a recurve since I was a kid, I'm 46 now. I got a Bear Super Grizzly 40# @ 28" factory bow with D97 flemish string, to keep the bow easily controlled for starting back with traditional gear. I got Gold Tip 400 Hunters, 100gr brass insert, 125 tip, Gold Tip GT nock and (3) 4" right wing shield cut Gateways. I want to be around 500gr. and this should be right around that. I think I am right around a 28" draw and can probably shoot a 29" arrow just fine, but thought I'd cut my arrows to 30" both to insure the broadhead stays well in front, as well as to keep the spine with the 400s from betting too stiff. They seem to fly very well to me, but admittedly, I am only shooting up close, 7-10yds for now, trying to work on form and fundamentals. I shot once @ 20yds at hay bales, that didn't stop the arrow too well lol, but flight looked perfect. What are your thoughts. Any downside to shooting a little longer arrow than needed?
No sir not really, you could easily shoot a little longer arrow as long as it doesn’t get too weak and actually shoot even better if you’re paying any attention to it while at full draw, you’ll probably be fine with that setup 👍🏻
Thank you! You helped me so much!!!
I do pretty much the exact same thing with my release. I call it "pulling thru the release". When i reach my anchor point, i squeeze my shoulder blades together, and slowly pull thru as i relax my fingers and let the string slide off. It made for a much smoother release, and it also became a whole alot easier to do once i switched from using a glove to a finger tab.
People get too caught up on the semantics, and whether or not they are "gap shooters" "instinctive" "string walking" etc. And they get way too damn caught up on whether what someone is doing is "traditional" or not. The words "aim" and "sight" are basically curse words lol.
I mean, if you think back to our hunter-gatherer ancestors thousands and thousands of years ago...the longbow archers of medieval Europe..the horseback archers of the Mongolian Empire..or the Native American hunters who took down plains buffalo with their bows and arrows. If you think that there werent many, many archers thru-out the entire history of the bow & arrow, who didn't use some method of aiming, like "gap shooting", to be consistently accurate with their bows, then you are lying to yourself.
And if you think that if you went back in time, and showed a medieval English longbow archer, or a Paleolithic hunter-gatherer, how to make a bowsight and how to use it to improve their accuracy, that they would scoff at it, you are nuts!
We worry so much about whether or not what we're doing is "traditional" enough, that at some point it becomes a bit absurd.
I guarantee you that plenty of archers thru-out history have utilized methods of aiming, such as gap shooting and string walking. And its just ridiculous to think that they wouldnt.
Jeff, I can't tell you how timely this video was. Thanks!!
You’re so welcome! Thank you for watching glad it helped 👍🏻
Thanks jeff. Great instruction
This is similar to split vision but the way you are utilizing it is not quite split vision. It’s like you are using split vision to get into alignment and then fully finishing shot instinctively. I have been using this a little bit it’s hard for me. All the great instinctive archers would recognize what you are saying especially at longer rangers. I have been focusing on getting my archery form correct after years of bad habits and I cannot gap shoot, it’s sooo difficult for me, yet, I am coming to realize it’s difficult for me because my form sucks, I cannot repeat a rock solid shot sequence. I am slowly getting better, understanding a lot more about how I should be doing things and slowly implementing them. Changing too much too fast has not been helpful though, been working on 1 thing at a time until I can finally say, that is proper form and I have tailored it to my body type. Watching shooters like yourself and others who were amazing shows the basic form and how that basic form needs to be modified for each archers body type and shooting style. Rock solid alignment, proper anchor for an individuals forearm length, follow through with a crisp release are all the essentials, and each of these things need to be adjusted to the individual.
Thanks for all your help. God bless you.
Thanks brother you too!
Best explanation ever. Thank you.
Man you did a game changing with that tips that is the way to go . 🏹👍🏻
Good video Jeffrey 👌
Preach it brother!!!
A roll of "glue backed" carpet makes a good target for any trad' archer. Inexpensive, similar to 3D, no distracting 'bullseye', easy to pull,....on the ground or hanging from a brach my carpet rolls helped me to concentrate on 'the spot'. Shooting between 10 and 25 yards builds my 'instinctive' skill.
Cool! I’ll bet it does work great 👍🏻
Judy chop! Lol. Great advice as always
Great stuff. Backyard shooter here and love the info you provide.
Thank you sir! I really appreciate that!👍🏻
One thing that I've noticed over 30 years of traditional instinctive shooting is people are way over bowed. That is one thing that hurts archers trying to shoot traditional..
Good instruction..
Jeff I have been struggling and fumbling around lately. Completely falling apart after 54 years of shooting a bow instinctively I'm acting like I've never seen a bow in my life thanks for kickin me in the head and reminding me to do what I already know how to do. Because when I look down that shaft like you're talkin about it's game on brother
Jeff, question for you. I am shooting a recurve now and following your advice on high foc arrow set ups with 100gr brass inserts and 125gr point. Question, I shoot a 60lb 29.5" Hoyt Spyder compound and am considering taking this approach with my 29" compound arrows. I'm thinking a 29" Gold Tip 300 with a 100gr brass insert and 125gr head, and mayne three 4# feathers to steer goos fixed blade heads. I know you are a traditional guy, but any insight of this will work well on the compound side too? Thinking a heavy 500gr arrow out of a compound will quiet it more and hit really hard. Thanks!
Absolutely! I set up some Hunter Pros 340 spine last year with 100 grain brass and 125 exodus heads for a 65# Mathews cut 27.5” four fletched and they were awesome so yes! Watch some of Troy’s videos The Ranch Fairy , he lives by the Ashby concept of heavier FOC for compounds👍🏻
If I think about the shot I miss every time , just do it!
Wow love this guy
Love your videos mate keep them coming 👍
I’ve recently begun watching your videos. And my only question is what has driven you to shooting 3 under vs split finger from the past. I’d love to hear from you on this. Thank you
Thanks and yes sir I’ve gone back to three under mainly because it’s just super accurate for me personally and I love the feel however I still shoot split with certain bows especially those that are short or tillered for split, they just shoot better that way and I can do both without very much adjustment at all.
Thank you for the explanation. I starting shooting about a month ago and made great progress quickly, it’s great to know that you switch back and forth depending on the bow. Thank you for responding sir. I will continue to listen to your advice through my journey.
@@tharealfauxman thank you and feel free to hit me up anytime you need to 👍🏻
Great educationel video ,i train every dat with nu bow.i in de started with comound bow, but not 2years with the traditional bow and I should have done that much sooner but bether late then never,but i do have a question , about the rifle and crossbow , i am a left shooter but with the bow i am right despite my left dominant eye, now i don't shoot that bad but it can always be better ,do have a tip for that too, keep on the Good Work Greetings from the Netherlands
Thank you sir!
Point blank means one point of aim which will give a kill or hit in relationship to paper or live target. Think of it this way . Each zeroed sight pin represents point blank range for different distances
Funny, Armin Hirmer tells it the other way aroud with instinctive shooting: Never look at your arrow! look like you throw a stone" I did that for 3 years. Now I am going to try Jeffs methode.. see what happens
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Excellent video. Stuff I learned painfully over 30 years
Lol don’t feel bad! It’s the school of hard knocks 🤣👍🏻
What about right hand dominant but left eye dominant
If your left eye dominate but, right handed you have a couple of options. Shoot left handed, close you left eye, the hardest to do learn to compensate. In other words move your aim point over.
Love your content. Having an extra camera near the target and editing where the arrow hits the target into your video would 10X the value of your video 😊
Great video.Thankyou
Thanks my friend glad you enjoyed it God Bless!
Jeff just getting back into archery after years. I shot a 60 pound compound as a kid, i bought a 40 pound longbow but holding anchor for more than a second a difficult due to the draw weight. Wondering if dropping down to a 35 pound would be a good idea or just putting in the work to build up my muscles to get used to the 40 pounds. Any suggestions? I will primarily be shooting 3Ds and targets
Well I gotta say I've started doing what you said and I'm at least grouping. I wasn't really doing that before. It was just shotgun pattern. I shoot a fifty pound recurve. It is tearing my arm up I gotta make me a arm guard. Thanks for sharing your Faith and God Bless
Man that’s great! I know it’s definitely easier with a bow you can at least hold for a couple seconds to go through the process and I’ve been doing it with some of my heavier recurves and it’s a little more difficult but not much at all 👍🏻
@@instinctiveaddictionarcher8998 well today my Amazon bow broke in two pieces. I'm in the market now for a new bow in the 45# range. Where do I find some of those longbows like you shoot? I got a bunch of 500 grain arrows.
@@Marlin7830 yes sir most of mine are custom bows that I actually built back when we were doing that, however there are of course lots of great bows on the market and it’s really just depending on how much you want to spend on them, I’ve got several friends shooting Black Hunters with no problems and of course 3rivers has some really good price point bows like the Bodnik with 30 year warranty and personally I love a takedown or ILF longbow they’re the smoothest 👍🏻
Much appreciated thank you. I like those longbows that got the deflex limbs that go straight when you string em. Anyway I got a old bamboo backed one I made long time ago I'll shoot it till I get The Bow.
Thanks!
I just shot tonight in the pitch black dark. I had a flashlight propped up in front of the bales. All I could see was the bales in the light. At 15 yards I shot excellent. My biggest shot collapse is looking around the target to see what will destroy my arrow if i miss.
Fantastic Thanks!