I live not far from Mike and the airport he hangers at. So I'm outside and hear the loudest airplane I've heard in awhile in a flight of three. I look up and see the Orange tail and see the bikes hanging on the wings. I'm excited to see this video after seeing him flyby my house. YAHOOOO!!
I'm not close enough to regularly see planes flying in/out of the airport, but I go see friends that are next to the airport all the time.... saw Mike flying around right before Oshkosh. I'm guessing that was some of the initial flight testing.
Wondering about your swamp boat prop. It churns a ton of air and cost you a bunch of performance. Adding the drag with these bikes may mean the boat prop stays around longer? Or do you need (desire) more performance.. My thought on what to hang from Scrappy next is manned wing suits. Like a glider, you haul them up then drop them at altitude. THAT would be cool as long as it could be done safely. Great to see a video come out from you Mike !
@@leeCann and it's a ground adjustable prop at that. It has to be really limiting, either sacrificing for slow performance or speed but not both.🤔 🤠🐂🏞️🛩️
I live close to @kennyatkins and he is a lot like the Bill Engvall joke. Kenny is a 40 year old guy who stands in his front yard yelling Air-pane, Air-pane. That's why we are friends.
Mike, and his helpers, have redefined the term "DIY project" and simultaneously set the bar so high that it seems unlikely that anyone will produce an arguably better designed, engineered and built vehicle, for land, sea or air travel. And, he did all of this with the utmost of humility, enthusiasm and encouragement for all that want to try. Thank you to all involved in Scrappy.
It is an extraordinarily overmatched conventional bushplane design to be sure, but even though this roided up high wing monoplane absolutely sets the standard for this class of aircraft, it most definitely isn't the most efficient design for the best possible cargo lift capacity/horse power/take off distance ratios, not by a long shot.
@@Veldtian1 what concerns me about the modifications made to this plane are: 1) How many of them have been authorised , tested and certified with the adaptations , using the STC process? 2) The use of the inset solar P.V. panels on the upper wing surface is another area of concern... Did they replace panels previously made of Aluminum? Were they installed in places where no pre-existing panels were before? The square corners of the cutouts where those P.V. panels are now installed, are possibly VERY bad areas where stress risers can form, and cause structural failure of these highly stressed areas... 3) And the welding being done on the brackets for the loading of the motor-bicycles, should not have been done. Solid aluminum rivets should have been used instead, because welding sets-up fatigue in the aluminum, by heating up the welded area to above the critical temperature, then anneals the welded aluminum making it softer in the heat affected area, and later-causing it to crack as the areas that did not get up over 475°F. during the welding process, retained their original temper and strength... So soft metal being blended with hard metal causes accelerated cracking & metal fatigue. Hopefully, no welding was done to the airframe by ANYBODY other than the original manufacturer...
You should design some kind of FLIR or thermal camera targeting pod that can be attached to the brackets and feed the video into the cockpit screens. For SAR stuff. Maybe have it so that the back seat can be configured as an observer with controls to slew the camera around :).
It's the enthusiasm I love.! I suffer from PTSD, Anxiety & severe depression, so enthusiasm & motivation are often extremely difficult for me to muster. The easiest thing for me to do is close the curtains, turn my phone off, climb under the quilt & feel sorry for myself.. Seeing guys like this can sometimes (if the stars & planets align & my mind is receptive enough) ignite the spark that gets me up off my arse to actually do something.. Taking out or working on my RC models is an ideal result for me. ENTHUSIASM, INSPIRATION, POSITIVITY & A DASH OF HOPE. Thank you Mike Patey.! Stay safe out there mate & best wishes from Scotland 🏴 🙏❤️.
Hang a police helicopter camera pack, FLIR, night vision, 120X zoom and tie into the Garmin screen. Gives the guy in back something to do on a search mission!
Now THAT would about the coolest thing that could possibly go on this aircraft. I'm sure he could get his hands on surplus LANTIRN / AAQ pods. Sure the SO he volunteers for could help with getting that through a surplus program. Better yet FLIR should just sponser this man.
@@twon4212 (I think a LANTRIN pod would be quite overkill, and not really offer anything over a commercial FLIR. What need has Mike for a laser designator that weighs 530 lbs?
Emergency pods… clothing, food, tents, etc. also, water pods for release on fires. Make a fairing for the front of the bikes for drag reduction. Great job!
Going along with your backwoods rescue theme. Why not create a rescue drop pod? For those situations where you need to get supplies to stranded hikers, etc but have no place to land, have a releasable pod with a parachute that you can drop. You could enclose food, shelter, medical supplies, radios, etc. They could be self-powered with a small battery.
Pure genius with the bike mounts. Best series on UA-cam I think. Maybe under-wing seats for the brave among us. That would be a white knuckle ride to remember.
Mike, could those "hard points" be adapted to be used as "bomb releases" for dropping rescue supplies to people lost in the wilderness when you are on search and rescue missions?
Perhaps you could attach self-inflating life rafts (some of which are designed to alternatively act as a tent for land rescue operations); those tend to start out at around 50kg / 110lb for a ~4 person raft but can go up to about 3x that weight for 10-25 person rafts (those would likely be overkill though).
Pods would minimise drag, for sure. Once you have that arrangement, you could adapt to fill them with almost anything!! Bomb/gift drops, rescue/camping, endless. Great stuff. Admiring from the UK. Cheers
What a treat to see another of your videos describing the process on Scrappy. I love the idea of a carbon fibre sleeve to make the motorcycles more "streamlined." Enjoy the fruit of your labour, Mike.
Three years ago at Oshkosh i kept swinging by Draco to hopefully meet Mike ( I did get to meet him this year and see scrappy. Life highlight for sure) anyway i had just left the Garmin tent and headed to the hangers behind, I saw someone familiar but not who I would place in aviation. I thought I figured it out and had to go ask. Sure enough it was Dean Kamen the inventor of the Segway. Another life highlight. When I saw the Segway bikes I was surprised they don’t know each other. Keep on the lookout at Oshkosh Mike, maybe you and Dean can collab or get you a bike sponsorship lol. Those things are sweet!
You can design a foldable rescue trailer to attach to bikes (at least to one of them). You can fold it and keep it in your storage. Those bikes could be the first ground vehicle to reach people and move them to a clear zone for transportation.
Mike Patey, you have brought to life the fictional ‘60s “Thunderbirds, International Rescue”! You have designed & built an aircraft so immensely capable, fans suggesting an array of multi-mission pods/payloads, many you have or are considering, all seem possible. Exciting times!
We are now seeing the advantages of Mike’s imagination and engineering ability. Thinking about what you might like to do before you cut metal or close a space means you have options. You have made it when you have the choice.
Holy crap Scrappy just keeps getting better and better, it blows my mind and combines two of my passions. Can we be friends @Mike Patey? I want to play bikes and planes, please also build skis for Scrappy so we can do some backcountry snowboarding. May need to fit the Segways with skis and rear belt drive to get us back up, this sounds far fetched, but you have already reset the bar with Scrappy!
Hey, I'm a young engineer and I must say, everything you do is highly inspiring. Simple and elegant solutions to complex problems built right with such limited human ressources. Insane. I know ''experience'' has a lot to play in making things right, but the creativity and imagination you have is off the chart. Also, props to the editor of your video, the youtube side of things is very good!
Static line chute with some basic release shackles. Would be pretty simple to set up...except for running the pull cord for the release. Hmm, maybe something radio controlled for the release system.
I love seeing someone realise their dreams. You are very blessed Mike. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from the small village of Aurora,Western Cape, South Africa
It would be cool to see a few kayaks on scrappy, especially once you bring her up here to AK. Also not sure if what floats you have for scrappy but you should look into full-lotus floats. They are a inflatable float that you can land on ice and snow as well with.
Mike! Mike! Mike! Amazing Mike! Thanks for your channel. I teach high school engineering and I’m a robotics program head coach. We show your videos to my kiddos to inspire them and challenge them to set high goals and be committed to work (as fun). Thank you!
Mike, you and your family are such a positive inspiration, I believe, to so many people in these very difficult times. God Bless you and your entire family for all you do. Bill from Linglestown Pennsylvania.
It so awesome to finally see scrappy at the end of the build, it sucks to see Draco out of the picture, but scrappy makes up for that plane, the custom work on scrappy is unbelievable, I would love to work for you guys, Hek I’d push a broom and be happy working around people like this.
I'm still reeling from losing a mentor/DAR/close friend in a crash a few days ago. Hard to get motivated right now, but this helped... so I'm gonna get back to work. Thanks again, Mike.
I want to thank you and your wife for taking a moment out of your day to say hi and let me get a picture with you guys at SEMA last Thursday, that made my week! I appreciate what you do more than you know. Keep up the good work and be safe! Chris Jackson
Remember when you 1st started the Scrappy project...but unfortunately I haven't checked in lately. What brought me back, was seeing you at The Freedom Factory with Cleetus,and the Farm Truck
I had entered the shirt contest and I wanted to take time to thank you for the stickers that you sent which I received today. I was also wondering about the status of the permanent prop for Scrappy. Thanks for the video. I've missed them. Now get back to work.
Your enthusiasm for your work is fueled by your genius. Your work blows me away to the nth. degree. Intense to say the least. Cool-beans man...Keep it up.
What an incredible job on the whole project, amazing! I see one or two things that might be a problem. The front tire might spin while flying, possibly very fast, clamping or strapping the brake handle will eliminate the spin. The second thing is i question an aluminum pin for holding the bike. Why not steel of some sort?
Great thoughts, we wondered about the tires as well. Since recording this video, Mike has flown several times with the bikes and found that the tires don’t spin. The pin is hardened stainless steel w/ a 9,200 lb load rating per pin.
@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey at the very least he could make carbon fiber caps to cover the spokes which likely has the largest amount of drag. That's why all speed bikes have solid Wheels no spokes! 🤠🐂🏞️🛩️
@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey OK, thanks. I thought for sure they would spin and i thought Mike said it was an aluminum pin, but there i go thinking again. lol I should have replayed the pin discussion. Thanks for answering, take care
POD ideas: 1: For Search and Rescue - a super bright set of LED downlights. 2: Aux fuel tanks for extended flights, or refuel other planes/toys. 3: Sidewinder Missiles. 4: Full body padded heated enclosed stretcher for evac of injured crash survivors. 5: 25 to 35HP motor and prop +batteries from an electric glider, probably 120lbs per side. With all the solar cells and battery capacity onboard it would increase loiter time (pull back the main power to 25%) and dial in some electric boost. It would also extend glide range in the event of catastrophic engine failure. Decrease takeoff distance too. I don't know how much power it takes to keep Scrappy in the air, but it might be possible to maintain level flight on electric alone. Which gives you a bit of stealth if needed, for instance, pull the main engine back to idle (or off) feather the prop, and do an extended low power descent. 6: Scaled down B36 twin turbine pod. (One turnin', four burnin'...) 7: RATO. 8: 30 gallons of fire retardant. Per side - for quick response brush fire control. 9: Mini Machine Shop - bench top lathe and welding setup in one, rolls of sheetmetal, and fabrication materials - hand tools in the other. 10: Aux water tank in one, (with optional electric heater) for a hot shower at the end of the day on the mountain top, and a meat locker in the other for the mega BBQ. 11: Propane tanks in one, large tent in the other for camping comfort. 12: Something that holds golf bags and clubs. 13: Catch and release system for a half dozen drones that can string out left and right of the plane in 1/8 mile increments, which would increase the width of the search path, and send data back to the ground via downlink so multiple sources can review. OK, this is a big project, but all the pieces are out there. Just needs integration. And could possibly be productized. "PSDA". Parasite Search Drone Array. 14: Something that drops watermelons.
May I suggest mounting a telecommunications pod under the wing to help S&R crews communicate on the ground? Maybe find a way to loiter over an area of operations to bring WiFi for lost hikers or injured people.
Better than wifi, how about a Cellular radio that just lights up their phone with full bars? It could detect and triangulate a mobile phone based on the return signal strength and plane motion.
Mike sure you have thought of this but as a MTB rider I always strap my pedals to stop high speed spinning in the wind on the back of my Ute. That’s at just say 100kph (55mph) - I have blown up two sets of pedal bearings on long trips. Pretty sure scrappy is a little faster than my truck 😜 love watching your vids thanks mate 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
How about mounting a Cement Mixer, or Stereo Cabinets and stereo, or Volkswagen Bug under the wing? When you reach your destination, you have to unload the cement from inside, pour yourself a foundation for a hut, park the bug, get out the stereo cabinets and enjoy the music. Then fly home. Loved the work Mike.
When I first heard the motorcycle from the wings idea I thought it was dumb. But now seeing them from the airplane I have changed my mind. What a cool way to get around and have fun going camping or if you need to land on a ridge and ride several miles to someone hurt with search and rescue.
@Briansmobile1 - That would be an amazing kit, which would nicely compliment a Batman car, batboat, batcycle, batcopter, batjet, batsubmarine, batkart, batwoman, etc.
Would love to see some bike on/off tuft testing. I'm curious what the airflow along the underside of the wing looks like in terms of the width of the turbulence those bikes generate.
So one may have pointed this out already. I have concerns about the front mudguards. I am assuming they are plastic and I think they would disappear in a blurr at any reasonable speed. Also you didn’t say anything about stopping the front wheels from turning. Extra load on the bearings also gyro effect when changing attitude on the aircraft. Thanks for the update always waiting for the next one.
Blew my mind! The wing arrangement with solar pannels, I have thought about it , but you made a the real deal man ! , those hardpoints, are just a world of opportunities
The degree of madness of your ideas, and even more so of their embodiment, defies description in literary language. Only mathematical formulas, numbers, sines, cosines and then only obscene expressions ... In a word, delightful !!!
Mike you could design two (one for each wing) 1-person sleeping pods designed similarly to a fuel pod but with a small bed inside. Would be cool when you go camping to have a carbon fiber 1-person sleeping pods on either side. Could also be cargo storage (similar to one Trent Palmers friend with his cub, can't think of the video/name).
This is absolutely AMAZING! They used to strap wounded soldiers to the sides of helicopters... What about a "person capsule" on each hang point to evac wounded climbers?
Great idea! That was the first thing I thought of when he said to tell me what you would hang into the wings. I mean if you get a back country SAR then how are you going to get a wounded person out of there or maybe multiple people out of there? So the person capsule is screaming to be built!
@@lanceyarwood3132 You know its pretty incredible you two mentioned that. During WWII, USA practiced that exact strategy, being able to transport people in small underwing pods from fighter aircraft like the P-38!!!
@@deepnorth9544 Yeah, easy to say from a keyboard. If something happened and you were put into even more danger or even killed from a incident, your family wouldn't hesitate to sue.
He has a helicopter. A much better option for transporting an injured person. In reality they would wait for Life Flight who has medics on board rather than risking an unstable person dying while you attempt to transport them. Same reason you call an ambulance and wait for them rather than speeding them off to the ER yourself.
@@hempelcx yep, by the time he lands, unloads the bikes, loads sar grear on bikes, and gets to the person being rescued. The rescue helicopter is probably well on it's way.
Every time you upload a new video I realize how much I miss not having one to watch! God I love your project, super motivating! Keep up the good work Mike and Ron! 👍
Hi, Mike! I know how much search and rescue means to you. Maybe you could make up backpacks for yourself and maybe an EMT so that you could land as close to an accident site as possible then ride to the site on the bikes to bring water, food, blankets or medical aid until rescue help arrives. Have you ever considered taking advanced first aid training? Whatever you end up doing I know where your heart lies and all of Utah has been the better for it. Darn it Mike, it is so good to see you posting again. Thank you yet again, Gary
I think I 'am going to move to Utah because all my favorite you tuber's are in Utah ! Heavy D Sparks, Mike Patey ,Matts off road recovery, Fab rats you all are great entertainment!
I think that you should make a set of cargo pods to hang on the hardpoints. In the Navy we called the mail pods "Blivits" Maybe you could call yours "Scraplets". I cant wait to see Scrappy, and the bikes in operation.
Hi Mike, I got an engineering design related question for you. I noticed over the course of this build, that you use a lot of close fitment joinery. ie: press fits, snug fits, slide fits. Where do you get your charts to calculate the dimensions of two parts, to get the correct fitment before you build it? Thanks for the great videos, and engineering content. Back to Work!
If I remember correctly from school, you can simply calculate them. When you can do precision machining, you make the parts to just the correct tolerances and you get a compression fit, snug fit, slide, etc. You could even design a fitting that required you to cool down the bolt to far below freezing, then slide it into place and when it warms up again, that fit won't move anywhere. (They did that for the Panavia Tornado - the center bolt that allows the wings to swivel is installed like that. It can't be taken apart again, if they find an issue there, they throw away the plane and build a new one (AFAIK)).
@@realulli Yes. There are charts with the equations for all of those fits, so that you can calculate them. That's what I'm asking about. The chart of fit equations that I have always yields something that is tighter than what it is for, so I was wondering if he uses a different char of fit equations.
You once asked for ideas to help general aviation. Is it possible to design a useful electric aircraft? Models for sale today manage 1 hours or so. But they may be a few years behind the real development curve? Is a real electric aircraft an idea? Is it doable?
I built an electric paramotor which is a manned electric aircraft. In the end electric is totaly doable for aviation, but costs more money upfront and cuts range to about 1/2 to 1/3 of what a comparable combustion powered aircraft can do.
Hey Mike ! I really Loved the Scrappy Build Series, as did thousands of others. So much imagination coupled with the Skill to Design It AND Build It. QUESTION: How many Patents will come from Scrappy ? Just Curious.
I've been having Scrappy Video withdrawals. Glad to see you posting again. Now that this is solved, how is the progress on your new prop going? It will be interesting to see the new performance differences.
10 seconds into the video, and I'm sorry if I'm outta line but I think that Mike and Ron is the real love story of this channel 👌😭 ok ok back to work 💪🤠
14:06 for rescue OPs where you cannot land, you could have an on-site drop pod that contains basic medical equipment, food, water, the works. Stuff that would prolong the life of the person in need. I mean, one could argue that's one in one thousand situations, but ya know, better to have and not want, than want and not have, i mean Scrappy can land just about anywhere, but that's not everywhere, and maybe there's situations that warrant such a pod. In theory, it could be long shelf (outside water) with military rations and exist on standby for the right kind of conditions. Dunno, just an idea, you'd know best if there's a reason for something like this to exist.
I can't express how much I love seeing Mike use his knowledge of aircraft and engineering and the resources he has to literally just have as much fun as possible. Nothing expresses that drive to be an engineer more than "Why did I build this? Because I wanted to and thought it would be fun." This channel is amazing!
Mike how does this affect your wing stall speed for increased load on the wings ? Does having the bikes on create a increase in stall speed especially at high altitude and are you seeing a serious bank angle limitation?
Mikey,......Finally!!! I’ve been “Jonesin” for a Scrappy video....And.....You deliver!!!! Anyway....Call me paranoid, but one of the things I noticed, when I first got my ATV, was how quickly it could get me into brand new territory. Coming across a moose, or bear could quickly ruin your day, and on those “Ninja” motorcycles of yours, you’ll not only get there quickly, but, also, silently! Another piece of equipment you may want to consider, when in the wilds on your M/C’s is a “bear capable” pistol. On your hip, ready to go! Like I said, “Call me paranoid”, I don’t care. Just a thought! God Bless you and yours....You’ve brought a lot of smiles into my life with your videos!
....I hate to admit this but it took me until 1/2 way through the 2nd watch of this video to notice that your "MOTORCYCLES" have pedals. So they're really electric "BICYCLES" and if for some unforeseen reason the batteries run out of juice b4 you get back to the Scrappy "Power Plant"....you can still pedal back!??!? I really wanna build an electric fat bike, so I think this is WAAAAY cool ! ! ! Thanks for putting another vid' out Mike. WE LOVE 'em ALL ! ......AND we've MISSED ya......and all the rest of the Patey Clan....which of course includes Ron ! ! ! ! ! !
I live not far from Mike and the airport he hangers at. So I'm outside and hear the loudest airplane I've heard in awhile in a flight of three. I look up and see the Orange tail and see the bikes hanging on the wings. I'm excited to see this video after seeing him flyby my house. YAHOOOO!!
I'm not close enough to regularly see planes flying in/out of the airport, but I go see friends that are next to the airport all the time.... saw Mike flying around right before Oshkosh. I'm guessing that was some of the initial flight testing.
Yep, that was us ✨
Wondering about your swamp boat prop. It churns a ton of air and cost you a bunch of performance. Adding the drag with these bikes may mean the boat prop stays around longer? Or do you need (desire) more performance..
My thought on what to hang from Scrappy next is manned wing suits. Like a glider, you haul them up then drop them at altitude. THAT would be cool as long as it could be done safely.
Great to see a video come out from you Mike !
@@leeCann and it's a ground adjustable prop at that. It has to be really limiting, either sacrificing for slow performance or speed but not both.🤔
🤠🐂🏞️🛩️
I live close to @kennyatkins and he is a lot like the Bill Engvall joke. Kenny is a 40 year old guy who stands in his front yard yelling Air-pane, Air-pane.
That's why we are friends.
Quick release pods that parachute down to stranded fliers campers etc. Have a wireless release system. Would be a challenge but you are up to it Mike.
Mike, and his helpers, have redefined the term "DIY project" and simultaneously set the bar so high that it seems unlikely that anyone will produce an arguably better designed, engineered and built vehicle, for land, sea or air travel.
And, he did all of this with the utmost of humility, enthusiasm and encouragement for all that want to try.
Thank you to all involved in Scrappy.
It is an extraordinarily overmatched conventional bushplane design to be sure, but even though this roided up high wing monoplane absolutely sets the standard for this class of aircraft, it most definitely isn't the most efficient design for the best possible cargo lift capacity/horse power/take off distance ratios, not by a long shot.
@@Veldtian1 what concerns me about the modifications made to this plane are: 1) How many of them have been authorised , tested and certified with the adaptations , using the STC process? 2) The use of the inset solar P.V. panels on the upper wing surface is another area of concern... Did they replace panels previously made of Aluminum? Were they installed in places where no pre-existing panels were before? The square corners of the cutouts where those P.V. panels are now installed, are possibly VERY bad areas where stress risers can form, and cause structural failure of these highly stressed areas... 3) And the welding being done on the brackets for the loading of the motor-bicycles, should not have been done. Solid aluminum rivets should have been used instead, because welding sets-up fatigue in the aluminum, by heating up the welded area to above the critical temperature, then anneals the welded aluminum making it softer in the heat affected area, and later-causing it to crack as the areas that did not get up over 475°F. during the welding process, retained their original temper and strength... So soft metal being blended with hard metal causes accelerated cracking & metal fatigue. Hopefully, no welding was done to the airframe by ANYBODY other than the original manufacturer...
Yeah! My wife and I made it into a Mike video.... scrambled in the crowd at Osh. I feel honored
You should design some kind of FLIR or thermal camera targeting pod that can be attached to the brackets and feed the video into the cockpit screens. For SAR stuff. Maybe have it so that the back seat can be configured as an observer with controls to slew the camera around :).
very easy way to find thermals
I came here to say this
It's the enthusiasm I love.!
I suffer from PTSD, Anxiety & severe depression, so enthusiasm & motivation are often extremely difficult for me to muster.
The easiest thing for me to do is close the curtains, turn my phone off, climb under the quilt & feel sorry for myself..
Seeing guys like this can sometimes (if the stars & planets align & my mind is receptive enough) ignite the spark that gets me up off my arse to actually do something..
Taking out or working on my RC models is an ideal result for me.
ENTHUSIASM, INSPIRATION, POSITIVITY & A DASH OF HOPE.
Thank you Mike Patey.!
Stay safe out there mate & best wishes from Scotland 🏴 🙏❤️.
What a breath of fresh air to see this pop up on a Monday. I thouroughly enjoy watching these videos. Thanks Mike!
GOOD TO SEE YOU BACK GOT MY WING SPAR SAMPLES ABOUT THREE WEEKS AGO YOUR VIDEOS ARE MOST OUTSTANDING STAY & FLY SAFE PAUL
Hang a police helicopter camera pack, FLIR, night vision, 120X zoom and tie into the Garmin screen. Gives the guy in back something to do on a search mission!
Think he can find a surplus LANTIRN pod?
@@benaguilar1787 might be a bit pricy in working condition :D
Now THAT would about the coolest thing that could possibly go on this aircraft. I'm sure he could get his hands on surplus LANTIRN / AAQ pods. Sure the SO he volunteers for could help with getting that through a surplus program. Better yet FLIR should just sponser this man.
I'm sure he could buy a flir MX-15 or similar. It would make finding people much easier
@@twon4212 (I think a LANTRIN pod would be quite overkill, and not really offer anything over a commercial FLIR. What need has Mike for a laser designator that weighs 530 lbs?
Back to work! Love you buddy!
I literally was just thinking, "I could really go for a Mike Patey video." And boom you deliver!
Exactly my thought.
I was just thinking the same thing yesterday
Same here. Just thought today “I wonder how Mike is doing with the ebikes.”
You are without a doubt my favorite U tube channel, too many reasons to list. Thank you, Bob
Man, you really have thought of everything!
It’s Mike patey Ryan …. Cue the snatch cut scene..
“Of course he has” 😂
@@aileronsintowind6835 I kind of like that as a middle name, not sure I'm worthy though
All it takes is money
@@jacksaloman9513 I know some people with money and they don't build airplanes from scratch and then mount dirt bikes on them.
Emergency pods… clothing, food, tents, etc. also, water pods for release on fires. Make a fairing for the front of the bikes for drag reduction. Great job!
Going along with your backwoods rescue theme. Why not create a rescue drop pod? For those situations where you need to get supplies to stranded hikers, etc but have no place to land, have a releasable pod with a parachute that you can drop. You could enclose food, shelter, medical supplies, radios, etc. They could be self-powered with a small battery.
Need to get those people/supply pods built! Kayak? Good episode.
I finished ground school last week and started flying today. Thanks Mike
Congrats! Happy clouds and safe landings!!!
@@aserta thank you. Going to be an exciting 2 weeks
Pure genius with the bike mounts. Best series on UA-cam I think. Maybe under-wing seats for the brave among us. That would be a white knuckle ride to remember.
Mike, could those "hard points" be adapted to be used as "bomb releases" for dropping rescue supplies to people lost in the wilderness when you are on search and rescue missions?
Just toss a bag out the window lol
He already has a bomb bay I the belly, but your idea would allow for more supp8.
this is a great question and i would love to see his reply.
…asking for a friend?
Perhaps you could attach self-inflating life rafts (some of which are designed to alternatively act as a tent for land rescue operations); those tend to start out at around 50kg / 110lb for a ~4 person raft but can go up to about 3x that weight for 10-25 person rafts (those would likely be overkill though).
Came from Cleetus's Channel to see Scrappy and you sir have just earned another new subscriber! Awesome piece of machinery!
Pods would minimise drag, for sure. Once you have that arrangement, you could adapt to fill them with almost anything!! Bomb/gift drops, rescue/camping, endless. Great stuff. Admiring from the UK. Cheers
bomb drops???
@@bdubz_det call them Pods then.. Pod drops
Very HOT water for the "back woods Hot Tub" Instant satisfaction is possible with the "Scrappy Tub".
What a treat to see another of your videos describing the process on Scrappy. I love the idea of a carbon fibre sleeve to make the motorcycles more "streamlined." Enjoy the fruit of your labour, Mike.
Three years ago at Oshkosh i kept swinging by Draco to hopefully meet Mike ( I did get to meet him this year and see scrappy. Life highlight for sure) anyway i had just left the Garmin tent and headed to the hangers behind, I saw someone familiar but not who I would place in aviation. I thought I figured it out and had to go ask. Sure enough it was Dean Kamen the inventor of the Segway. Another life highlight. When I saw the Segway bikes I was surprised they don’t know each other. Keep on the lookout at Oshkosh Mike, maybe you and Dean can collab or get you a bike sponsorship lol. Those things are sweet!
That is the best system/bracket assembly I've ever seen! Excellent job.
You can design a foldable rescue trailer to attach to bikes (at least to one of them). You can fold it and keep it in your storage. Those bikes could be the first ground vehicle to reach people and move them to a clear zone for transportation.
Mike Patey, you have brought to life the fictional ‘60s “Thunderbirds, International Rescue”! You have designed & built an aircraft so immensely capable, fans suggesting an array of multi-mission pods/payloads, many you have or are considering, all seem possible. Exciting times!
We are now seeing the advantages of Mike’s imagination and engineering ability. Thinking about what you might like to do before you cut metal or close a space means you have options. You have made it when you have the choice.
Holy crap Scrappy just keeps getting better and better, it blows my mind and combines two of my passions. Can we be friends @Mike Patey? I want to play bikes and planes, please also build skis for Scrappy so we can do some backcountry snowboarding. May need to fit the Segways with skis and rear belt drive to get us back up, this sounds far fetched, but you have already reset the bar with Scrappy!
Makes Trent Palmer’s one wheel look inadequate. Still way better than my aircraft, of which I have none. Awesome work Mike.
Hey, I'm a young engineer and I must say, everything you do is highly inspiring. Simple and elegant solutions to complex problems built right with such limited human ressources. Insane. I know ''experience'' has a lot to play in making things right, but the creativity and imagination you have is off the chart. Also, props to the editor of your video, the youtube side of things is very good!
As this is a SAR bird, how about having the capability of an air-drop survival supply & support? Auto deploy a chute on drop?
Static line chute with some basic release shackles. Would be pretty simple to set up...except for running the pull cord for the release. Hmm, maybe something radio controlled for the release system.
just open the door and drop it like ww1
It's cool to call airplanes birds.
How 'bout a little trap door under the seat, for dropping candy or TPing your buddies house?
I love seeing someone realise their dreams. You are very blessed Mike. Thanks for sharing. Greetings from the small village of Aurora,Western Cape, South Africa
What a machine!!! Thanks as always, for bringing us along on the journey!
Glad to see Scrappy chillin on the ground! Go anywhere!!!
It would be cool to see a few kayaks on scrappy, especially once you bring her up here to AK. Also not sure if what floats you have for scrappy but you should look into full-lotus floats. They are a inflatable float that you can land on ice and snow as well with.
Mike! Mike! Mike! Amazing Mike! Thanks for your channel. I teach high school engineering and I’m a robotics program head coach. We show your videos to my kiddos to inspire them and challenge them to set high goals and be committed to work (as fun). Thank you!
Mike, you and your family are such a positive inspiration, I believe, to so many people in these very difficult times. God Bless you and your entire family for all you do. Bill from Linglestown Pennsylvania.
It so awesome to finally see scrappy at the end of the build, it sucks to see Draco out of the picture, but scrappy makes up for that plane, the custom work on scrappy is unbelievable, I would love to work for you guys, Hek I’d push a broom and be happy working around people like this.
I'm still reeling from losing a mentor/DAR/close friend in a crash a few days ago. Hard to get motivated right now, but this helped... so I'm gonna get back to work. Thanks again, Mike.
I’m so sorry for the loss of your friend. It definitely knocks the wind out of us. My condolences to you and other loved ones. 🕊
Thank you Chandra.
Aeronautical engineer extraordinaire. I ever marvel at Mike's ingenuity (ridiculous work ethic) and allround great guy. An inspiration. Thanks.
I would like to volunteer to be mounted to the wing bike mounts for an out of cockpit experience, glad to see another Mike Patey Video.
😂🤣 forget the wing walker. You want to go directly to Wing hanger!! LOL
I would also like to volunteer for this!
I want to thank you and your wife for taking a moment out of your day to say hi and let me get a picture with you guys at SEMA last Thursday, that made my week! I appreciate what you do more than you know. Keep up the good work and be safe!
Chris Jackson
Awesome! I was in the mood for an update of this awesome project. Thanks for sharing!
Remember when you 1st started the Scrappy project...but unfortunately I haven't checked in lately.
What brought me back, was seeing you at The Freedom Factory with Cleetus,and the Farm Truck
I would really like to see a video on how you design your checklists for your custom planes i think it would be a fascinating process
I had entered the shirt contest and I wanted to take time to thank you for the stickers that you sent which I received today. I was also wondering about the status of the permanent prop for Scrappy. Thanks for the video. I've missed them. Now get back to work.
I love this project. So glad I was able to watch it come together.
Your enthusiasm for your work is fueled by your genius. Your work blows me away to the nth. degree. Intense to say the least. Cool-beans man...Keep it up.
What an incredible job on the whole project, amazing! I see one or two things that might be a problem. The front tire might spin while flying, possibly very fast, clamping or strapping the brake handle will eliminate the spin. The second thing is i question an aluminum pin for holding the bike. Why not steel of some sort?
Great thoughts, we wondered about the tires as well. Since recording this video, Mike has flown several times with the bikes and found that the tires don’t spin. The pin is hardened stainless steel w/ a 9,200 lb load rating per pin.
@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey at the very least he could make carbon fiber caps to cover the spokes which likely has the largest amount of drag. That's why all speed bikes have solid Wheels no spokes!
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@@ChandraSlyFoxPatey OK, thanks. I thought for sure they would spin and i thought Mike said it was an aluminum pin, but there i go thinking again. lol I should have replayed the pin discussion. Thanks for answering, take care
POD ideas:
1: For Search and Rescue - a super bright set of LED downlights.
2: Aux fuel tanks for extended flights, or refuel other planes/toys.
3: Sidewinder Missiles.
4: Full body padded heated enclosed stretcher for evac of injured crash survivors.
5: 25 to 35HP motor and prop +batteries from an electric glider, probably 120lbs per side. With all the solar cells and battery capacity onboard it would increase loiter time (pull back the main power to 25%) and dial in some electric boost. It would also extend glide range in the event of catastrophic engine failure. Decrease takeoff distance too. I don't know how much power it takes to keep Scrappy in the air, but it might be possible to maintain level flight on electric alone. Which gives you a bit of stealth if needed, for instance, pull the main engine back to idle (or off) feather the prop, and do an extended low power descent.
6: Scaled down B36 twin turbine pod. (One turnin', four burnin'...)
7: RATO.
8: 30 gallons of fire retardant. Per side - for quick response brush fire control.
9: Mini Machine Shop - bench top lathe and welding setup in one, rolls of sheetmetal, and fabrication materials - hand tools in the other.
10: Aux water tank in one, (with optional electric heater) for a hot shower at the end of the day on the mountain top, and a meat locker in the other for the mega BBQ.
11: Propane tanks in one, large tent in the other for camping comfort.
12: Something that holds golf bags and clubs.
13: Catch and release system for a half dozen drones that can string out left and right of the plane in 1/8 mile increments, which would increase the width of the search path, and send data back to the ground via downlink so multiple sources can review. OK, this is a big project, but all the pieces are out there. Just needs integration. And could possibly be productized. "PSDA". Parasite Search Drone Array.
14: Something that drops watermelons.
Oh, I definitely like the "fire retardant" idea, and the "auxiliary power pod" ideas.
May I suggest mounting a telecommunications pod under the wing to help S&R crews communicate on the ground? Maybe find a way to loiter over an area of operations to bring WiFi for lost hikers or injured people.
Better than wifi, how about a Cellular radio that just lights up their phone with full bars? It could detect and triangulate a mobile phone based on the return signal strength and plane motion.
@@kschleic9053 This is a really good idea.
This man thinks of everything. I wish I was half as smart as you Mike. Awesome job. Love your work. Makes me want to get up and build something.
Before I die, I want to shake this mans hand. It would be an absolute honor!
I second that
You can... I did at Oshkosh '19
@@sonshinelight yep me too!
Your forethought and attention to detail are truly staggering. Mind blown every video.
Mike sure you have thought of this but as a MTB rider I always strap my pedals to stop high speed spinning in the wind on the back of my Ute. That’s at just say 100kph (55mph) - I have blown up two sets of pedal bearings on long trips. Pretty sure scrappy is a little faster than my truck 😜 love watching your vids thanks mate 🇦🇺 🇺🇸
How about mounting a Cement Mixer, or Stereo Cabinets and stereo, or Volkswagen Bug under the wing? When you reach your destination, you have to unload the cement from inside, pour yourself a foundation for a hut, park the bug, get out the stereo cabinets and enjoy the music. Then fly home. Loved the work Mike.
Sleeper pods?
for things to add to bracket: a pod for equipment for extreme rescue teams, extra medical equipment, ropes, harnesses, hall out basket etc.
When I first heard the motorcycle from the wings idea I thought it was dumb. But now seeing them from the airplane I have changed my mind. What a cool way to get around and have fun going camping or if you need to land on a ridge and ride several miles to someone hurt with search and rescue.
When is the RC version of Scrappy going to available?
With the bikes !!! 😁😁😁
and the MSFS 2020 flight model!
Import it to War Thunder with underwing 20mm cannon pods in place of the bikes please
@@sjpeckham1 It would be so cool to have scrappy in msfs!
@Briansmobile1 - That would be an amazing kit, which would nicely compliment a Batman car, batboat, batcycle, batcopter, batjet, batsubmarine, batkart, batwoman, etc.
A real pleasure to meet you Mike at the middle-of-no-where shop'n'rob near adelanto ca. last week!!
Would love to see some bike on/off tuft testing. I'm curious what the airflow along the underside of the wing looks like in terms of the width of the turbulence those bikes generate.
So one may have pointed this out already. I have concerns about the front mudguards. I am assuming they are plastic and I think they would disappear in a blurr at any reasonable speed. Also you didn’t say anything about stopping the front wheels from turning. Extra load on the bearings also gyro effect when changing attitude on the aircraft.
Thanks for the update always waiting for the next one.
Woop woop! FINALLY a new MP video :) (no hate, just pure excitement!!)
Blew my mind! The wing arrangement with solar pannels, I have thought about it , but you made a the real deal man ! , those hardpoints, are just a world of opportunities
He no longer needs the skid rods on the wing tip, now that he's got the bicycle wheels. Really cool.
Rear wheel won’t turn.
That was high-tech when drop-off wingtip wheels were put on the U-2
The degree of madness of your ideas, and even more so of their embodiment, defies description in literary language. Only mathematical formulas, numbers, sines, cosines and then only obscene expressions ... In a word, delightful !!!
Mike you could design two (one for each wing) 1-person sleeping pods designed similarly to a fuel pod but with a small bed inside. Would be cool when you go camping to have a carbon fiber 1-person sleeping pods on either side. Could also be cargo storage (similar to one Trent Palmers friend with his cub, can't think of the video/name).
Hal I think? The older guy always wearing the nomex suit?
Wing tent!
Human drop pods
Maybe good if you like sleeping on a teeter totter
Also could be a rescue stretcher
Mike, you are just too amazing. full of energy and idea's. stay safe and healthy,
kind regards from Shayne. Australia.
OMG I love this guys setup. I haven't been flying in 10 years and this really makes me miss it.
Epic Project.
Really didn’t expect to see you here shack
Mike, I love the way you think things through. E.g., your ability to move the Segway batteries inside, and charge them from solar or ICE. Brilliant!!!
This is absolutely AMAZING!
They used to strap wounded soldiers to the sides of helicopters... What about a "person capsule" on each hang point to evac wounded climbers?
Great idea! That was the first thing I thought of when he said to tell me what you would hang into the wings. I mean if you get a back country SAR then how are you going to get a wounded person out of there or maybe multiple people out of there? So the person capsule is screaming to be built!
@@lanceyarwood3132 You know its pretty incredible you two mentioned that. During WWII, USA practiced that exact strategy, being able to transport people in small underwing pods from fighter aircraft like the P-38!!!
Some pods for a passenger under each wing would be awesome. Kind of a sidecar on a motorcycle 👍😆 Scrappy could then be 2 place of 4 place aircraft
Are the subframes strong enough to mount a rescue pod for an injured person?
Far too risky I would think..
Imagine the liability if something went wrong.
@@joedavidson4486 I mean if i'm about to die or get rescued in a wing pod, load me in bro
@@deepnorth9544
Yeah, easy to say from a keyboard.
If something happened and you were put into even more danger or even killed from a incident, your family wouldn't hesitate to sue.
He has a helicopter. A much better option for transporting an injured person. In reality they would wait for Life Flight who has medics on board rather than risking an unstable person dying while you attempt to transport them. Same reason you call an ambulance and wait for them rather than speeding them off to the ER yourself.
@@hempelcx yep, by the time he lands, unloads the bikes, loads sar grear on bikes, and gets to the person being rescued. The rescue helicopter is probably well on it's way.
What a beautiful plane ! Well done ! Very impressive with the 2 bikes !
I can’t wait to see what Mike does with the upcoming constant speed prop, and wingtips. One thing I can GUARANTEE is he won’t disappoint as always. 👍
Yeah I noticed you still has the air boat prop. I'm sure it's limiting Scrappy's potential, having to compromise.
@@Ozarkprepper643 The airboat prop will be excellent for STOL competitions, but that’s not what Scrappy is meant for.
Every time you upload a new video I realize how much I miss not having one to watch! God I love your project, super motivating! Keep up the good work Mike and Ron! 👍
Hi, Mike! I know how much search and rescue means to you. Maybe you could make up backpacks for yourself and maybe an EMT so that you could land as close to an accident site as possible then ride to the site on the bikes to bring water, food, blankets or medical aid until rescue help arrives. Have you ever considered taking advanced first aid training? Whatever you end up doing I know where your heart lies and all of Utah has been the better for it. Darn it Mike, it is so good to see you posting again.
Thank you yet again,
Gary
You think he hasn't done those things?
I think I 'am going to move to Utah because all my favorite you tuber's are in Utah ! Heavy D Sparks, Mike Patey ,Matts off road recovery, Fab rats you all are great entertainment!
When is the 7 blade MT prop show up😉
Those E bikes are crazy powerful for what they are. Lots of quiet fun !
18:09 “the winds picking up”
Mike’s fans: *flashbacks intensifies*
Wish I could watch this but this guy has inspired me. Working two ft jobs, started 3 companies. No time, back to work!
I think that you should make a set of cargo pods to hang on the hardpoints. In the Navy we called the mail pods "Blivits" Maybe you could call yours "Scraplets".
I cant wait to see Scrappy, and the bikes in operation.
I thought a blivet was ten pounds of excrement in a five pound bag.
@@christopheroliver148 Only when it is mounted under a C-1
Cleetus McFarland sent me. And I was not disappointed.
Hi Mike, I got an engineering design related question for you.
I noticed over the course of this build, that you use a lot of close fitment joinery. ie: press fits, snug fits, slide fits. Where do you get your charts to calculate the dimensions of two parts, to get the correct fitment before you build it?
Thanks for the great videos, and engineering content.
Back to Work!
If I remember correctly from school, you can simply calculate them. When you can do precision machining, you make the parts to just the correct tolerances and you get a compression fit, snug fit, slide, etc. You could even design a fitting that required you to cool down the bolt to far below freezing, then slide it into place and when it warms up again, that fit won't move anywhere. (They did that for the Panavia Tornado - the center bolt that allows the wings to swivel is installed like that. It can't be taken apart again, if they find an issue there, they throw away the plane and build a new one (AFAIK)).
Ya, Mike calculates and precision machines all his own parts.
@@realulli Yes. There are charts with the equations for all of those fits, so that you can calculate them. That's what I'm asking about. The chart of fit equations that I have always yields something that is tighter than what it is for, so I was wondering if he uses a different char of fit equations.
Thank god u posted something, nothing for 4 weeks...
I was beginning to think something bad had happened to you.
Great vid as always :)
You once asked for ideas to help general aviation. Is it possible to design a useful electric aircraft? Models for sale today manage 1 hours or so. But they may be a few years behind the real development curve? Is a real electric aircraft an idea? Is it doable?
I built an electric paramotor which is a manned electric aircraft. In the end electric is totaly doable for aviation, but costs more money upfront and cuts range to about 1/2 to 1/3 of what a comparable combustion powered aircraft can do.
Glad to see some continuation of videos of scrappy. I know you wanted to take a break from major projects at least.
Hey Mike ! I really Loved the Scrappy Build Series, as did thousands of others.
So much imagination coupled with the Skill to Design It AND Build It.
QUESTION: How many Patents will come from Scrappy ? Just Curious.
I’m just so blown away by this entire build… all the tiny details and forethought is beyond compare…. I hope to see Scrappy in SoCal one day soon!!
I've been having Scrappy Video withdrawals. Glad to see you posting again. Now that this is solved, how is the progress on your new prop going? It will be interesting to see the new performance differences.
10 seconds into the video, and I'm sorry if I'm outta line but I think that Mike and Ron is the real love story of this channel 👌😭 ok ok back to work 💪🤠
14:06 for rescue OPs where you cannot land, you could have an on-site drop pod that contains basic medical equipment, food, water, the works. Stuff that would prolong the life of the person in need. I mean, one could argue that's one in one thousand situations, but ya know, better to have and not want, than want and not have, i mean Scrappy can land just about anywhere, but that's not everywhere, and maybe there's situations that warrant such a pod. In theory, it could be long shelf (outside water) with military rations and exist on standby for the right kind of conditions.
Dunno, just an idea, you'd know best if there's a reason for something like this to exist.
I can't express how much I love seeing Mike use his knowledge of aircraft and engineering and the resources he has to literally just have as much fun as possible. Nothing expresses that drive to be an engineer more than "Why did I build this? Because I wanted to and thought it would be fun." This channel is amazing!
Mike how does this affect your wing stall speed for increased load on the wings ? Does having the bikes on create a increase in stall speed especially at high altitude and are you seeing a serious bank angle limitation?
Congratulations Mike. Know you were really looking forward to this. Wishing your brother well in his recovery.
Mikey,......Finally!!! I’ve been “Jonesin” for a Scrappy video....And.....You deliver!!!! Anyway....Call me paranoid, but one of the things I noticed, when I first got my ATV, was how quickly it could get me into brand new territory. Coming across a moose, or bear could quickly ruin your day, and on those “Ninja” motorcycles of yours, you’ll not only get there quickly, but, also, silently! Another piece of equipment you may want to consider, when in the wilds on your M/C’s is a “bear capable” pistol. On your hip, ready to go! Like I said, “Call me paranoid”, I don’t care. Just a thought!
God Bless you and yours....You’ve brought a lot of smiles into my life with your videos!
....I hate to admit this but it took me until 1/2 way through the 2nd watch of this video to notice that your "MOTORCYCLES" have pedals. So they're really electric "BICYCLES" and if for some unforeseen reason the batteries run out of juice b4 you get back to the Scrappy "Power Plant"....you can still pedal back!??!? I really wanna build an electric fat bike, so I think this is WAAAAY cool ! ! !
Thanks for putting another vid' out Mike. WE LOVE 'em ALL ! ......AND we've MISSED ya......and all the rest of the Patey Clan....which of course includes Ron ! ! ! ! ! !
You joke Mike but I could totally see you adding a JATO system to the wing mounts for shits and giggles! XD
I remember from an earlier video there are reinforced spots on the fuselage which he "joked" could handle JATO loads.
It has been a pleasure watching this build! Thanks, Mike and crew!