I competed in OLY lifting back in the 60s. We would really lean back and then throw that weight up and duck back down. It was a technique lift like the snatch. Some lifters press and C&J were about the same. Lots of competitive lifters were done when the rule change happened.
Awesome Video. Thank you so much for explaining the difference between all the Presses. It makes much more sense now. Thank you so much. Your videos are making a difference, please keep them coming.
Man, I get that a person is probably an advanced lifter by the time they start to oly press, but it just seems to me like there's SO much potential for a back injury because of one bad rep with that secondary lay-back (something I would inevitably do).Thanks again for the free, quality content BLOC!
Best method to learn the „lay back lock out“ is to narrow your grip even more. Still keeping the elbows vertical front view, but more tucked in when shown from above. In my experience you will automatically throw the bar more in front so that you are forced to miss the rep or lock it out through lay back. Maybe it‘s not optimal, but this was the problem I had with the press in the beginning. A problem there can be a solution somewhere else.
I know this is a four year old comment, but this is a similar way of thinking that some of the old school lifters had. Some would prefer to let the bar rest a little lower on the chest to facilitate a better drive from the initial layback. I can imagine that this would also force you to either miss or get the right layback and lockout as you mentioned.
Martynas Šliažas yup and people think that the Olympic press is some kind of press... The strict press was the Olympic Press! Judges were not enforcing rules anymore.
This video helped me this morning. I was on set 2 of 5 of OHP and failed on rep 2 of 3. Super disappointed. So, I thought about the hip movement from this video in the 2.0 version. And, more importantly, I thought about how my grip should closer than I think it should. I brought my grip in about two finger widths and tried a set. Wow. I nailed the rest of my sets. Holy cow what a difference. I always thought with my long arms and broad shoulders I needed a wider grip. Nope. My index finger was just on the edge of the knurl. My forearms were vertical. And I gained an absolute ton of power. Thank you!
Rob Paschal Do not copy that shit. The Olympic press was the strict press! Judges did not enforce the rules anymore. Drop the weight and press correctly.
I started naturally Olympic pressing lately when the weight got heavy. Although I have seen rips video on it, I never planned to implement it, it just sorta happened.
I like the 1.5 using the stretch reflex at the bottom bit im lowering the bar to the clavical, i also like to raise the chin a little bit so the bar goes straighter and less around the chin
I do my presses strict, with a pause at the bottom of every rep. Are there any benefits to touch-and-go reps on the press? Or are the differences between pausing and touch-and-go negligible?
Hey there! Good question! With the olympic press as demonstrated by Alexis, there should be no space between the barbell and the shoulders; the bar will be in contact with the shoulders at the start of each rep, which means the grip will very likely be wider depending on the individual. The timing is a bit different than the press 2.0 as well, given that the bounce of the hips forward as shown here is going to be much slower than other styles of pressing.
@@BarbellLogic About a month ago I was testing my overhead press with singles and I felt my back be forced back after my hip bounce to generate more force. I felt my lats getting involved and don't know if that's good or not.
@@Uolverino7036 do you think the benefits are worth the risk even for an intermediate lifter? To me it seems incredibly unnatural. Why not graduate to the split jerk maybe? That seems like a more natural position.
If someone insists on "pressing" loads that they cannot actually press, might as well do the push press. There is nothing wrong with the basic press. This "innovation" is analogous to bouncing benches off the ribcage and sternum.
Thanks. The Olympic press is a hard lift--and most people don't need to use it. It's useful if you're looking to compete in Strengthlifting--or some other situation where you're really pushing your 1RM press.
We explain in the video that the Olympic press is for advanced lifters who naturally develop the layback over time. Hope you found the beginning useful, where we walked through 3 other types of presses!
I believe the classical press is as much a major lift as the bench press is. A very technical movement thought. Actually, I don't really see the point in practicing the olympic press the way it was performed in the late 60's, early 70's with this huge lay back. This is the reason, among political concerns, why this lift has been supressed from the Olympics. A stricter version is in my opinion much safer and still a beautiful movement.
klalakomacoi Indeed. The strict press was the Olympic press! To press heavier weights , lifters started to cheat by using this awful technique and judges were not enforcing the rules! I mean, by textbook, the press was a slow lift not a quick lift like the snatch and the clean & jerk. It was a good thing to drop this travesty of pressing from Oly competition.
Well... Alexis tried! Watch til the end for examples of Olympic presses from BLOC Coaches, Cody Annino and Brooke Haubenstricker.
I competed in OLY lifting back in the 60s. We would really lean back and then throw that weight up and duck back down. It was a technique lift like the snatch. Some lifters press and C&J were about the same. Lots of competitive lifters were done when the rule change happened.
I love 1.5!
It's safer for your shoulders too
Awesome Video. Thank you so much for explaining the difference between all the Presses. It makes much more sense now. Thank you so much. Your videos are making a difference, please keep them coming.
Thanks for the kind words! Good luck with your training.
Man, I get that a person is probably an advanced lifter by the time they start to oly press, but it just seems to me like there's SO much potential for a back injury because of one bad rep with that secondary lay-back (something I would inevitably do).Thanks again for the free, quality content BLOC!
Best method to learn the „lay back lock out“ is to narrow your grip even more. Still keeping the elbows vertical front view, but more tucked in when shown from above. In my experience you will automatically throw the bar more in front so that you are forced to miss the rep or lock it out through lay back.
Maybe it‘s not optimal, but this was the problem I had with the press in the beginning. A problem there can be a solution somewhere else.
I know this is a four year old comment, but this is a similar way of thinking that some of the old school lifters had. Some would prefer to let the bar rest a little lower on the chest to facilitate a better drive from the initial layback. I can imagine that this would also force you to either miss or get the right layback and lockout as you mentioned.
👍. Some videos on the push press and the jerk would be helpful as well!
Do a video on the barbell curl!!!!
good study
Thanks for this outstanding video!
Thank YOU
Standing bench press :D
Martynas Šliažas yup and people think that the Olympic press is some kind of press... The strict press was the Olympic Press! Judges were not enforcing rules anymore.
It really isn’t. I don’t think you can compare the two. It’s not even that close to an incline.
This video helped me this morning. I was on set 2 of 5 of OHP and failed on rep 2 of 3. Super disappointed. So, I thought about the hip movement from this video in the 2.0 version. And, more importantly, I thought about how my grip should closer than I think it should. I brought my grip in about two finger widths and tried a set. Wow. I nailed the rest of my sets. Holy cow what a difference. I always thought with my long arms and broad shoulders I needed a wider grip. Nope. My index finger was just on the edge of the knurl. My forearms were vertical. And I gained an absolute ton of power. Thank you!
Yeah, grip width is really important! Glad that small adjustment made such a big difference!
Rob Paschal Do not copy that shit. The Olympic press was the strict press! Judges did not enforce the rules anymore. Drop the weight and press correctly.
I started naturally Olympic pressing lately when the weight got heavy. Although I have seen rips video on it, I never planned to implement it, it just sorta happened.
Yup, we explain that in this video where we show examples of our other coaches Olympic pressing.
Zelda Lad lol you are cheating yourself... Lower the weight and keep pressing strictly. ( the press was a slow lift not a quick lift)
So, it's a more hips - triceps movement, without much shoulder flexion? Or am I wrong? :)
The hips *assist* breaking the bar off the shoulders, but you still need strong shoulders to get the bar moving.
I like the 1.5 using the stretch reflex at the bottom bit im lowering the bar to the clavical, i also like to raise the chin a little bit so the bar goes straighter and less around the chin
Is it elbow flare at 2:49?
I learn it from your pre video "Overhead Press Common Mistakes - Elbow Flare, Grip Width"
My only complaint is the view should be front and from the side. That way we get a better idea of how this should look.
Fair enough
@@BarbellLogic great video though!! Great progression
@@900198619 Thanks.
He top is black, pants are blue. Her hair is blue (dyed) and black . And she's fair.
Minimalistic and graceful ❤️❤️❤️
I do my presses strict, with a pause at the bottom of every rep. Are there any benefits to touch-and-go reps on the press? Or are the differences between pausing and touch-and-go negligible?
When you say "touch and go," do you mean like how we demonstrated the "Press 1.5" here?
@@BarbellLogic exactly like the 1
5. No pause on the clavicle, just pushing the weight overhead as soon as it touches.
8:41
Is this the same as the press double layback on starting strength channel?
Hey there! Good question! With the olympic press as demonstrated by Alexis, there should be no space between the barbell and the shoulders; the bar will be in contact with the shoulders at the start of each rep, which means the grip will very likely be wider depending on the individual. The timing is a bit different than the press 2.0 as well, given that the bounce of the hips forward as shown here is going to be much slower than other styles of pressing.
@@BarbellLogic About a month ago I was testing my overhead press with singles and I felt my back be forced back after my hip bounce to generate more force. I felt my lats getting involved and don't know if that's good or not.
Is it just me or does the Olympic press put a ridiculous amount of pressure on the posterior aspect of your spine?
I think it does only if your core is not strong enough. It is not an
exercise for a beginner for shure
@@Uolverino7036 do you think the benefits are worth the risk even for an intermediate lifter? To me it seems incredibly unnatural. Why not graduate to the split jerk maybe? That seems like a more natural position.
If someone insists on "pressing" loads that they cannot actually press, might as well do the push press. There is nothing wrong with the basic press. This "innovation" is analogous to bouncing benches off the ribcage and sternum.
Advice for some.. DO NOT shrug at the top, fucked up my ribs for some reason
This looks like a Really advanced movement, but also looks dangerous for your back if you are not careful, It seems like you could break in half lol
Francesco De Caro lol it’s not advanced, it is called cheating ...
Matt and Brooke--DON'T READ THE COMMENTS!
I have always used high bar squats. Numerous Olympic weight lifters use the high bar as well. And can lift more than some powerlifters.
cool
Camera angle hides the hip thrusting
Great advice. Did not know I did the 1.5 the whole time, and the 2.0 when I was getting tired. Oh and Alexis looks beautiful! Have a great day guys!
Thanks for watching & commenting.
Very clear video.. Thank you
Any way she did good
Thanks. The Olympic press is a hard lift--and most people don't need to use it. It's useful if you're looking to compete in Strengthlifting--or some other situation where you're really pushing your 1RM press.
Is she a Coach
The lift we didn't need to know.
We explain in the video that the Olympic press is for advanced lifters who naturally develop the layback over time. Hope you found the beginning useful, where we walked through 3 other types of presses!
The comment that we didn't need to read.
I believe the classical press is as much a major lift as the bench press is. A very technical movement thought. Actually, I don't really see the point in practicing the olympic press the way it was performed in the late 60's, early 70's with this huge lay back. This is the reason, among political concerns, why this lift has been supressed from the Olympics. A stricter version is in my opinion much safer and still a beautiful movement.
klalakomacoi Indeed. The strict press was the Olympic press! To press heavier weights , lifters started to cheat by using this awful technique and judges were not enforcing the rules! I mean, by textbook, the press was a slow lift not a quick lift like the snatch and the clean & jerk. It was a good thing to drop this travesty of pressing from Oly competition.
Is the Olympic press also the Continental Press or are they seperate lift's?