This speaks to me on so many levels.. the inundation of information coming at us all the time, and the incessent desire to collect with both arms is consuming me.. on a daily basis.
This has been really helpful, It speaks to some issues I'm starting to see with my notes and it really makes sense as a starting point to rethink my own zettelkasten method. Thank you for making the video.
In regards to ADHD, I have been hyperfocused on organization, planners and note taking for about a week. I would consider myself a technology driven person, constantly on youtube, using my computer for school, work, videos games. I have explored digital note taking apps in the recent past but I have never really got into it. I would eventually love to have a hybrid system like you have but prior to this I have been possibly the most disorganzied and chaotic person I know. I also am getting a analog planner that I am super excited for. I feel like I am going about this in a dramatic way that will result in me giving up on this. For now does this seem like a reasonable plan to start fixing my disorganzied ADHD controlled life? Field note/pocket note book for random ideas, thoughts and notes. A larger planner with monthly, weekly, daily/blank pages. I was going to utilize google calendar in addition to my planner, that leaves me with 3 new organization components that are all new to me.
Yes, if you tried digital and it didn't work for you, absolutely go all in on analog. Give each notebook a unique ID and and make "links" by underlining keyterms and indexing them on note cards with the corresponding ID and page number. That way even if you have a bunch of notebooks all over the place and a centralized system to resurface ideas. You can even use a digital system for indexing. The main component to a hybrid system is going to be an index, that is the entry point into your notes, no matter where they are located. If you do this you can easily transition between digital and analog because everything is indexed anyway. Hope this helps!
in digital note, the space is abundant. I get rid of redundant information by highlighting, listing-and-selection, summarizing, relinking, and renaming the file names. So many filtering points mentioned above stop me from diving unnecessarily deep into learning.
Very informative and insightful video Tony. Subbed, Purposeful and meaningful notes rather than noting everything down. That sort of thing is exacerbated when you’re flitting around tools too. I’ve got an early Zettlekasten underway and enter only things of useful future reference into Roam.
Tony Ramella video on Zotero 😬 not only from the perspective of how Tony Ramella uses Zotero? but what was the opportunity cost? Could Tony Ramella achieve same impact if not using Zotero? What is the Cost to Tony Ramella of NOT using Zotero? much appreciated 🙇♂
It would take too long to explain in a comment. You can download my free Obsidian vault (link in description) and it comes with the daily notes index and logs template you see in the video
Thank you for the Insights!! Although I have to ask in the notion of sharing your notes to other people, Do you consider your personal zettelkasten as your own information storage and a place where you interpret/understand the information (the mechanism/back stage workers) while articles would be the result/shows? Or is it okay to show your zettelkasten to the public but make it so that your notes in the zettels are understood by everybody and not just yourself? (My zettels are only to be understood by me alone and you would see the most weirdest acronyms to make it short and easier to understand in my perspective)
@@MonoclensAll this is a fantastic question. I write my source notes as if I’m talking to myself and my main notes as if I’m teaching to someone. This makes the source notes more simplified and adds my own “voice” to my main notes, making them more valuable when published. If you’re writing notes to publish content, you should write them as if you are talking to your audience.
@@TonyRamella Ooh! Alright, Thank you for the answer! I wanted to ask the question since I was starting my first year of college next month and was looking forward to share and probably make money on the side through writing using the notes that I have made.
I’ve consumed a few of these Obsidian videos - supposedly the more raw “just use it” and “smart notes” type stuff. This smacks of just wiki software. Hell I installed MoinMoin or whatever like 15+ years ago and quickly moved away from that because it didn’t really scale, like all of these systems (notebooks, note taking apps, etc). I tried Notion and found it to be pretty much the same, maybe the Kanban stuff would be worth it in the long run for tasks. I’m convinced that there’s value somewhere in here, but between this stuff and spaced repetition you end up with that being the bulk of your work and not the shit you want your brain to noodle on and take deeper. I’m not totally unconvinced, but also laugh at most of the creators just shit-piling their Obsidian stuff with customized nonsense, just like the Notion crowd. Do they ever accomplish anything and show proof?
It depends on the length of the book and what I intend to extract from it. I have some source notes that are 1 card and some that are 6. Luhmann generally used 1 source card per book which shows how intentional he was with his reading. Although I don't see it necessary for that to be a rule, its a good goal to aim for.
Is it an ADHD thing to want to collect things? I've got soooo many books unread, so many hobbies unfulfilled, so many notes captured... How do I make myself actually DO the thing not just COLLECT the thing?? 😂🤦♂
Id say yes but mostly indirectly. Retail therapy is alot of why most people do this. ADHD or not. Making purchase = dopamine and serotonin. Impulse control plays into too. Thats when it starts to be more related to ADHD. But there are lots of different sources of low impulse control. I managed a bookshop for many years and most people who did this weren’t ADHD. it’s encouraged in most bookish areas of social media. Bragging about how big their TBR pile is. People do it for all sorts of reasons. FOMO over the newest bestseller or booktok book. Trying to cultivating “bookishness” as the corner stone of their personality. Because they like how it looks on their walls. Or the smell. Pretty much every regular I had would buy 60% more books than they actually had the capacity to read. People with ADHD are less likely to get around to reading the books. But its less about lying to themselves that they want to or will have time to read it (as it is with many who fall into this trap) and more about executive dysfunction when it comes to reading them. Not to mention object permanence issues. If it’s something that concerns you financially or you just want to overcome the executive dysfunction to get them read. Then theres apps and coping strategies out there My personal fav is a D20. I write 20 titles dowm and roll a D20 dice. What it lands on is the book i tackle next. Though i now limit myself to only library books and audiobooks. Only ones i purchase are thin poetry volumes or antiques. Thats just me tho. Honestly its up to you if you even wanna change thay behaviour. Its pretty synonymous with being a book reader these days. If it doesnt actually bother you then theres no harm. It used to just baffle me how many people would go into their overdraft once a month at my store to buy way more books than they needed. One regular actually lost her fiance because she went into so much debt mostly from buying books. Upper management wouldn’t approve my motion to limit her spending in store as she clearly had a severe addiction. One many reasons of why i left. Tl;dr It could be why or part of why you do it but its not why most people do.
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Thank you my friend! Glad you enjoy
This speaks to me on so many levels.. the inundation of information coming at us all the time, and the incessent desire to collect with both arms is consuming me.. on a daily basis.
This has been really helpful, It speaks to some issues I'm starting to see with my notes and it really makes sense as a starting point to rethink my own zettelkasten method. Thank you for making the video.
I love the idea of capturing fleeting ideas in the daily note and extracting them for review using Dataview. Thanks!
In regards to ADHD, I have been hyperfocused on organization, planners and note taking for about a week.
I would consider myself a technology driven person, constantly on youtube, using my computer for school, work, videos games.
I have explored digital note taking apps in the recent past but I have never really got into it.
I would eventually love to have a hybrid system like you have but prior to this I have been possibly the most disorganzied and chaotic person I know. I also am getting a analog planner that I am super excited for. I feel like I am going about this in a dramatic way that will result in me giving up on this.
For now does this seem like a reasonable plan to start fixing my disorganzied ADHD controlled life? Field note/pocket note book for random ideas, thoughts and notes. A larger planner with monthly, weekly, daily/blank pages.
I was going to utilize google calendar in addition to my planner, that leaves me with 3 new organization components that are all new to me.
Yes, if you tried digital and it didn't work for you, absolutely go all in on analog. Give each notebook a unique ID and and make "links" by underlining keyterms and indexing them on note cards with the corresponding ID and page number. That way even if you have a bunch of notebooks all over the place and a centralized system to resurface ideas. You can even use a digital system for indexing.
The main component to a hybrid system is going to be an index, that is the entry point into your notes, no matter where they are located. If you do this you can easily transition between digital and analog because everything is indexed anyway.
Hope this helps!
Very happy to have discovered your channel!
in digital note, the space is abundant.
I get rid of redundant information by highlighting, listing-and-selection, summarizing, relinking, and renaming the file names.
So many filtering points mentioned above stop me from diving unnecessarily deep into learning.
Very informative and insightful video Tony. Subbed, Purposeful and meaningful notes rather than noting everything down. That sort of thing is exacerbated when you’re flitting around tools too. I’ve got an early Zettlekasten underway and enter only things of useful future reference into Roam.
I totally agree. Great job, Tony!
Greatly helpful. Thank you.
Very insightful and helpful. Thanks.
Tony Ramella video on Zotero 😬
not only from the perspective of how Tony Ramella uses Zotero?
but what was the opportunity cost?
Could Tony Ramella achieve same impact if not using Zotero?
What is the Cost to Tony Ramella of NOT using Zotero?
much appreciated 🙇♂
Could you explain about how to make the same hidden dataveiw there 4:43. A dataview that could close and open?
It would take too long to explain in a comment. You can download my free Obsidian vault (link in description) and it comes with the daily notes index and logs template you see in the video
@@TonyRamella Thank you so much!!
I agree, to store the book we have the book.
Great value! New subscriber here…
@@ricardomego7895 thank you! Welcome aboard
Thank you for the Insights!! Although I have to ask in the notion of sharing your notes to other people, Do you consider your personal zettelkasten as your own information storage and a place where you interpret/understand the information (the mechanism/back stage workers) while articles would be the result/shows?
Or is it okay to show your zettelkasten to the public but make it so that your notes in the zettels are understood by everybody and not just yourself? (My zettels are only to be understood by me alone and you would see the most weirdest acronyms to make it short and easier to understand in my perspective)
@@MonoclensAll this is a fantastic question. I write my source notes as if I’m talking to myself and my main notes as if I’m teaching to someone. This makes the source notes more simplified and adds my own “voice” to my main notes, making them more valuable when published. If you’re writing notes to publish content, you should write them as if you are talking to your audience.
@@TonyRamella Ooh! Alright, Thank you for the answer! I wanted to ask the question since I was starting my first year of college next month and was looking forward to share and probably make money on the side through writing using the notes that I have made.
I’ve consumed a few of these Obsidian videos - supposedly the more raw “just use it” and “smart notes” type stuff. This smacks of just wiki software.
Hell I installed MoinMoin or whatever like 15+ years ago and quickly moved away from that because it didn’t really scale, like all of these systems (notebooks, note taking apps, etc). I tried Notion and found it to be pretty much the same, maybe the Kanban stuff would be worth it in the long run for tasks.
I’m convinced that there’s value somewhere in here, but between this stuff and spaced repetition you end up with that being the bulk of your work and not the shit you want your brain to noodle on and take deeper. I’m not totally unconvinced, but also laugh at most of the creators just shit-piling their Obsidian stuff with customized nonsense, just like the Notion crowd. Do they ever accomplish anything and show proof?
how many source notes do you have for one book?
It depends on the length of the book and what I intend to extract from it. I have some source notes that are 1 card and some that are 6.
Luhmann generally used 1 source card per book which shows how intentional he was with his reading. Although I don't see it necessary for that to be a rule, its a good goal to aim for.
great video, also a new #subsrciber on your channel
Thanks friend
Is it an ADHD thing to want to collect things? I've got soooo many books unread, so many hobbies unfulfilled, so many notes captured... How do I make myself actually DO the thing not just COLLECT the thing?? 😂🤦♂
Id say yes but mostly indirectly.
Retail therapy is alot of why most people do this. ADHD or not. Making purchase = dopamine and serotonin.
Impulse control plays into too. Thats when it starts to be more related to ADHD. But there are lots of different sources of low impulse control.
I managed a bookshop for many years and most people who did this weren’t ADHD.
it’s encouraged in most bookish areas of social media. Bragging about how big their TBR pile is.
People do it for all sorts of reasons. FOMO over the newest bestseller or booktok book. Trying to cultivating “bookishness” as the corner stone of their personality.
Because they like how it looks on their walls. Or the smell.
Pretty much every regular I had would buy 60% more books than they actually had the capacity to read.
People with ADHD are less likely to get around to reading the books. But its less about lying to themselves that they want to or will have time to read it (as it is with many who fall into this trap) and more about executive dysfunction when it comes to reading them.
Not to mention object permanence issues.
If it’s something that concerns you financially or you just want to overcome the executive dysfunction to get them read.
Then theres apps and coping strategies out there
My personal fav is a D20. I write 20 titles dowm and roll a D20 dice. What it lands on is the book i tackle next.
Though i now limit myself to only library books and audiobooks.
Only ones i purchase are thin poetry volumes or antiques.
Thats just me tho. Honestly its up to you if you even wanna change thay behaviour. Its pretty synonymous with being a book reader these days.
If it doesnt actually bother you then theres no harm.
It used to just baffle me how many people would go into their overdraft once a month at my store to buy way more books than they needed.
One regular actually lost her fiance because she went into so much debt mostly from buying books.
Upper management wouldn’t approve my motion to limit her spending in store as she clearly had a severe addiction.
One many reasons of why i left.
Tl;dr
It could be why or part of why you do it but its not why most people do.