I love my LT4 powered car but LS was respected from day 1. It was so revolutionary back in 1998. How many cars had more than 325 hp back then? 325 back then is like 700 now if you look at current competition.
Hiya fellas I am back after 4 years...still have my 17' SS 6 speed Camaro but now over 70k miles on it and still runs like new and pulling like a freight train.
Are there higher flow direct injection injectors and pumps or do you revert to port injection for high horsepower? Are the aftermarket (incl Chev) going to be selling high deck height blocks?
Does anyone have any information about the stock GM LT4 bearings? Do they fail at high horsepower, or is that something to do with the factory clearances/balancing?
The LT4 has a slightly stronger block. Steel crank better rods and forged pistons. And will easily take 1000HP with a well engineered twin turbo setup ....
@@markjmaxwell9819 ig I need to buy the boostline drop in piston and rod setup...hate to spend the $2650... thinking of trading this thing for a 6.0...its just too dam expensive
@@markjmaxwell9819 I'm serious...I'm just going to do a Gen 4 5.3 with stock bottom end(with ring gap) and ARP studs,trickflow heads with BTR springs and head stud kit,BTR stage 3 turbo cam and a nice intake manifold with two cheap ass ebay turbos.... going to start with that and build the 6.2 slowly while running that combo or I may trade it for a Gen 4 6.0 🤷🏾♂️
Hamad Al Shaqsi The LT4 is better for Boost. The LT1 is great but you need the better pistons and the crank that the LT4 has. The Camaro SS has the LT1 the ZL1 has the LT4 with the Supercharger. I have the Camaro SS 2018 would love the ZL1.
Hello LME. I love what you guys do and I actually live in Houston Texas. I have a question for you guys. Can you guys make a Camaro SS rev to 7500 RPM like a Mustang GT? I like Camaros but I think they need at least a 7000 RPM redline.
@@toddb3394 I'm late but thank you I've own Gm cars since I was born my 1st was my first car at age 15. A 85 z28 Camaro 305 . 7 more 3-5th gens Camaros including 1 97 firehalk lt4 car ran 11.78 on the old nitto 555 373 gear 230 238 cam car I was in my early 20s. Whipped many stangs. An 1 91 lt1 355 tune port black red int veet drove in high school along with my 1st car eva at age 15 85 z . My fastest to date is my 2000 z28 mistc teal flip flop green color factory t56 6 speed car. Now is the fastest true stock suspension on small tire 28s in my city an all southern tri city areas. Even my 1st upgrade bk then was a Gm performance hot cam with 3000 stall 373 gear car stock t56 stage 3 clutch car with just a cam harden push rods long tubes Gm free Hp mods ls6 intake 243 heads i can remember constant 6,800 - 7000rpm clutch drops an that was my very 1st aka the HULK very 1st street drag combo 4 more combos as cars got faster an faster have to keep my current set up hush hush due to money grudge racing but yea the commite was made don't make since or don't believe me couse anyone knows or call vengeance performance an they will tell you 6800-7200 is actually were they costum grind there small baby cams ls cars even turning 7000 7200 easy so I'm positive the new lt1 revs high but if you do research on Gm push rod motors our motors make peak hp an tq at a little lower rpm an in some cases if you look on the dyno charts after that power is made depending on your cam or motor set up after you reach peak hp anything after that it will fall off an you just adding extra wear to your motor Gm an the over head Ford motors are completely different in how they make hp. But that's the reason why even the die heart Ford guy will do a ls swoop couse ls an Gm motors take more abuse an make more hp at a friendlier budget price.
I would have to say this about these engines . Both times me and my wife owned a Cadillac one was a 2014 and my current one is a 2018 we had lifter problems . The ‘14 would have a lifter that every once in a while would collapse then after a minute would pump back up . Then the ‘18 out of no where dropped a cylinder cause of lifter failing and bent a pushrod . 35,000 miles . That’s in a Cadillac . How can these engines take abuse like they would in a Camaro or a corvette ?
Are you sure it was a failing lifter? I had the exact same thing happen on my 15 Silverado 6.2L, snapped and bent a pushrod. Took it apart, replaced the pushrod, changed the oil, and it’s like nothing even happened. I’m still getting a random misfire code from the fouled plug but this literally turned $1000 of work into me givin my buddy, who’s a certified Chevy mechanic, $100 for his time and effort.
Lifter issues are due to active fuel management and displacement on demand systems in the l86 and l83 engines. LT1 and LT4 engines have differences in the valve train which allows them to handle more abuse.
From what research I have done personally this comes from failure to change oil filters and oil. Oil filters are more important than the oil change on all these new blocks.
Well shit, Ik the intake/exaust layout is diff between the 2 heads. I wish there were more online info on gen 2 lt1's. Thanks for the heads up tho, tbh forgot about this comment.
So ls can handle 1000-1200whp and the lt motors can handle 1500whp ish nice that’s my goal of around 1400-1500whp with a procharger F1X even at biggest for me an F2 procharger
Give me a 327 with a few nice bits inside at over 7k rpm with a carby 11.1 comp a solid cam even flat tappet iron heads or maybe I could slip an ally set on there a nice solid timing chain reworked aftermarket or shed modded sump a manual trans in just about anything that ain't huge And u shall be exposed to a pleasure and the song of a lil giant killer that has been forgotten about unfortunately
@@keith-jo6wg what era was the lt4 you are talking about I'l haftoo have a good look I'm very old school 40 years ago A friend of mine in Australia Had a 327 small journal Built by a fellow that became a good friend talented man He had a bread and butter engine workshop in a small city in New South wales But mark the shop owner liked doing lil specials on the side If things got quiet It took him over a year of his part time to build this lil engine With attention to detail Solid cam flat tappet Can't remember specs Fuelie heads ported and match ported Victor jnr Balanced And squared up Good forged slugs Can't remember rods Guide plates Screw in studs and manly rollers 650 Holley mechanical Top loader and a 9 inch It easily revved to 7 plus It was in a four door Holden hj sedan Dumped on the ground pretty well Not a real light vehicle With firm suspension 235 50 series on front 265 50 series on back I drove this vehicle at 240 kph Ish I was well past the 220 on the clock and his Speedo had been calibrated quite well at time of rego it was one of the conditions by the fella that inspected it and it had a lil more But I ran out of rd And I ran out of nerve I was 19 Go the mouse Scared the Shiite out of me And to hear that lil sucker wind through the gears was something I won't ever forget It smoothed out beautifully at about 6k and was asking for more The whole way At the time 40 years ago the build cost him 5k or so Back then that was a substantial house deposit a block of land was less than 20k Anyway I've always wanted one the sorta the same Yeah I know the past is gone Cheers
Vosovogalsyncope carbon build up is one small problem with the new LT motors but the benefits have a way longer list . Did you see the l83 ( gen V 5.3 ) make 800 hp on #8 of boost ? That’s insane . I don’t really care about your pos , stick with the bow tie.
That's one of the best things I read in years old school has potential that has been written off so many times looking at the differences here shows some of the weakness in the LS the only LS I've ever been impressed with was an LS 7 a friend of mine had greatly engineered engine But will over time still suffer from 4 bolt per cylinder and webbing issues if consistently driven hard An aquantence of mine was putting old school blowers on them for skid cars without upgrading anything Sept lifters and rockers valve train stuff he windowed that many of em it was criminal and he wernt even getting a hell of a lot of power out of em till he got sensible and run em on alcohol with mechanical and kept off the dickhead limiter Some of the toughest cars he was competing against were blown small block chevs and old school blown Ford's with mechanical injection and alcohol I'd say most were after market or special blocks though or had been engineered for reliability They should have different days at skid fests one for cars with limiters and one for cars without and I'l stay home for one
I drove a LT-1 in a 1994 Z-28. I wasn't impressed. I drove a L88 5.7L 350 in a 1980 Stingray Corvette. That car was a piece of junk. I don't like Tuned Port Injection either. I think Chevy in general I just didn't like. My First two cars a 1983,1984 Z-28 5.0L 305. I got a Mitsubishi Galant 2000 now and, I'm happy.
The LT may not start to be appreciated until ten years from now. Like the LS is now.
I love my LT4 powered car but LS was respected from day 1. It was so revolutionary back in 1998. How many cars had more than 325 hp back then? 325 back then is like 700 now if you look at current competition.
Good video. Thanks for the clarity!
Hiya fellas I am back after 4 years...still have my 17' SS 6 speed Camaro but now over 70k miles on it and still runs like new and pulling like a freight train.
This video has really low volume
Although the lt4 is impressive, good technology over ls gen. To me the ls9 is much more special. Forged pistons titanum valves etc
He's just emphasizing the block. Pistons and valves are something different
You can get forged part for the lt aswell 🙄
I rather have the LS3 over the LT1
@@Ws6Ms ur crazy
The LT4 also has titanium intake valves
Are there higher flow direct injection injectors and pumps or do you revert to port injection for high horsepower?
Are the aftermarket (incl Chev) going to be selling high deck height blocks?
Very informative -- could use a little more volume.
Does anyone have any information about the stock GM LT4 bearings? Do they fail at high horsepower, or is that something to do with the factory clearances/balancing?
Your bearings should be fine if you have around 600-700 HP anything over that is going to stress them.
@@lorenzofettucine2639 I should hope the bearings can handle 650hp, it is rated at that. I am sure they can handle much more.
I was worried my car is rated at 640 bc Cadillac. I was afraid of my bearings going bad.
LT1 king of the BLocks. No discussion
Keep posting brother
Can I put the lt1 cam in my l86 and will it be plug and play?
This is the new gen 5 lt1 comparison to the ls block not the gen 2 lt1/lt4 different beast.
Thanks
The LT4 has a slightly stronger block.
Steel crank better rods and forged pistons.
And will easily take 1000HP with a well engineered twin turbo setup ....
So is it possible to run a reliable 1200hp LT1 with a stock bottom end with ARP stud upgrade?
@@sixx6sixx107
Unlikely hence steel cranks special rods and forged pistons...
@@markjmaxwell9819 ig I need to buy the boostline drop in piston and rod setup...hate to spend the $2650... thinking of trading this thing for a 6.0...its just too dam expensive
@@sixx6sixx107 lollll
@@markjmaxwell9819 I'm serious...I'm just going to do a Gen 4 5.3 with stock bottom end(with ring gap) and ARP studs,trickflow heads with BTR springs and head stud kit,BTR stage 3 turbo cam and a nice intake manifold with two cheap ass ebay turbos.... going to start with that and build the 6.2 slowly while running that combo or I may trade it for a Gen 4 6.0 🤷🏾♂️
What about an LS-7 ?????
Which of the two would be superior for SBE boosted application?
Hamad Al Shaqsi The LT4 is better for Boost. The LT1 is great but you need the better pistons and the crank that the LT4 has. The Camaro SS has the LT1 the ZL1 has the LT4 with the Supercharger. I have the Camaro SS 2018 would love the ZL1.
Big D my bad. My question was between the LS3 and LT1.
@@hamadalshaqsi2005 The LT block will be stronger so inturn better for boost. That being said both setups built correctly can make good power.
Hello LME. I love what you guys do and I actually live in Houston Texas. I have a question for you guys. Can you guys make a Camaro SS rev to 7500 RPM like a Mustang GT? I like Camaros but I think they need at least a 7000 RPM redline.
No...you need DOHC engine with 4 valves per cylinder. Drawback is you will not have the low end torque like in the LT pushrod setup.
@@matrox You can definitely make a LT1 rev to 7500.
@@toddb3394 I'm late but thank you I've own Gm cars since I was born my 1st was my first car at age 15. A 85 z28 Camaro 305 . 7 more 3-5th gens Camaros including 1 97 firehalk lt4 car ran 11.78 on the old nitto 555 373 gear 230 238 cam car I was in my early 20s. Whipped many stangs. An 1 91 lt1 355 tune port black red int veet drove in high school along with my 1st car eva at age 15 85 z . My fastest to date is my 2000 z28 mistc teal flip flop green color factory t56 6 speed car. Now is the fastest true stock suspension on small tire 28s in my city an all southern tri city areas. Even my 1st upgrade bk then was a Gm performance hot cam with 3000 stall 373 gear car stock t56 stage 3 clutch car with just a cam harden push rods long tubes Gm free Hp mods ls6 intake 243 heads i can remember constant 6,800 - 7000rpm clutch drops an that was my very 1st aka the HULK very 1st street drag combo 4 more combos as cars got faster an faster have to keep my current set up hush hush due to money grudge racing but yea the commite was made don't make since or don't believe me couse anyone knows or call vengeance performance an they will tell you 6800-7200 is actually were they costum grind there small baby cams ls cars even turning 7000 7200 easy so I'm positive the new lt1 revs high but if you do research on Gm push rod motors our motors make peak hp an tq at a little lower rpm an in some cases if you look on the dyno charts after that power is made depending on your cam or motor set up after you reach peak hp anything after that it will fall off an you just adding extra wear to your motor Gm an the over head Ford motors are completely different in how they make hp. But that's the reason why even the die heart Ford guy will do a ls swoop couse ls an Gm motors take more abuse an make more hp at a friendlier budget price.
Yes you can rev to 7,500 all day long with the right spring set up.
@@matrox Spin my stock bottom end gen 4 shit to 7500 every time I drive it.
By the position of the pistons looks like they have the same firing order.
So is it possible to run a reliable 1200hp LT1 with a stock bottom end with ARP stud upgrade?
no
Might have been interesting if I could have heard it.
I would have to say this about these engines . Both times me and my wife owned a Cadillac one was a 2014 and my current one is a 2018 we had lifter problems . The ‘14 would have a lifter that every once in a while would collapse then after a minute would pump back up . Then the ‘18 out of no where dropped a cylinder cause of lifter failing and bent a pushrod . 35,000 miles . That’s in a Cadillac . How can these engines take abuse like they would in a Camaro or a corvette ?
Are you sure it was a failing lifter? I had the exact same thing happen on my 15 Silverado 6.2L, snapped and bent a pushrod. Took it apart, replaced the pushrod, changed the oil, and it’s like nothing even happened. I’m still getting a random misfire code from the fouled plug but this literally turned $1000 of work into me givin my buddy, who’s a certified Chevy mechanic, $100 for his time and effort.
Lifter issues are due to active fuel management and displacement on demand systems in the l86 and l83 engines. LT1 and LT4 engines have differences in the valve train which allows them to handle more abuse.
From what research I have done personally this comes from failure to change oil filters and oil. Oil filters are more important than the oil change on all these new blocks.
94 caprice with the lt1, wanted to know if any other gm v8 variants would be compatible for a set of engine heads
TransMechanic98 these are gen V LT motors dude, not the old ones
Well shit, Ik the intake/exaust layout is diff between the 2 heads. I wish there were more online info on gen 2 lt1's. Thanks for the heads up tho, tbh forgot about this comment.
TransMechanic98 yeah it’s kinda confusing how there’s the lt1 from the 90s and lt1s from current times
@@dirdidarod there is all kinds if build info forbthe gen 2 lt1
@@390nm also from the late 60s the original lt-1
I dont understand this dude, first he said that lt1 block is strong but then he said that we cant confident is lt block to make 1000hp...
Cant hear
Does anyone know the difference in block weight between the LS and LT1?
No
LT GM??? I have a 1995 LT1 corvette
It's cute how the LSX nuthuggers are starting to realize that the LS platform just became obsolete.
Wrong video description, by the way.
You should of recorded the video in your waiting room..
awesome
So could you put ls heads on the lt block?
The LS Block has been a decent engine. However l would never build one . The LT 4/5 is so much better in every way 😅
So ls can handle 1000-1200whp and the lt motors can handle 1500whp ish nice that’s my goal of around 1400-1500whp with a procharger F1X even at biggest for me an F2 procharger
So that’s the new lt1...what’s the difference between that lt1 and my 1996 corvette lt1 ?
So everybody screaming LS swap the world but the lt platform is better? Why swap?
You mislabeled this video... that is not an LT1 you are talking about.
why have they been imploding since 2014???
Give me a 327 with a few nice bits inside at over 7k rpm with a carby 11.1 comp a solid cam even flat tappet
iron heads or maybe I could slip an ally set on there
a nice solid timing chain reworked aftermarket or shed modded sump a manual trans in just about anything that ain't huge
And u shall be exposed to a pleasure and the song of a lil giant killer that has been forgotten about unfortunately
@@keith-jo6wg what era was the lt4 you are talking about I'l haftoo have a good look I'm very old school
40 years ago
A friend of mine in Australia
Had a 327 small journal
Built by a fellow that became a good friend talented man
He had a bread and butter engine workshop in a small city in New South wales
But mark the shop owner liked doing lil specials on the side
If things got quiet
It took him over a year of his part time to build this lil engine
With attention to detail
Solid cam flat tappet
Can't remember specs
Fuelie heads ported and match ported
Victor jnr
Balanced
And squared up
Good forged slugs
Can't remember rods
Guide plates
Screw in studs and manly rollers
650 Holley mechanical
Top loader and a 9 inch
It easily revved to 7 plus
It was in a four door Holden hj sedan
Dumped on the ground pretty well
Not a real light vehicle
With firm suspension 235 50 series on front 265 50 series on back
I drove this vehicle at 240 kph
Ish I was well past the 220 on the clock and his Speedo had been calibrated quite well at time of rego it was one of the conditions by the fella that inspected it and it had a lil more
But I ran out of rd
And I ran out of nerve I was 19
Go the mouse
Scared the Shiite out of me
And to hear that lil sucker wind through the gears was something
I won't ever forget
It smoothed out beautifully at about 6k and was asking for more
The whole way
At the time 40 years ago the build cost him 5k or so
Back then that was a substantial house deposit a block of land was less than 20k
Anyway I've always wanted one the sorta the same
Yeah I know the past is gone
Cheers
Is there a fwd LT
I have a LT1 in my 94 Fleetwood Brougham.
wrong lt1
@@jonpeterson4085 ahh ahhh ahh it is in fact thee LT1.
@@Cityoftrees1911 previous generation 275 hp, this generation came out in 2014, 460 hp
@@jonpeterson4085 Fact is i have a LT1 powered Cadillac 🤣🇺🇸.
whatever makes you happy
Lt1s have weak fuel systems and pistons
It's direct injected and has taken a lot of fuel rail pressure so don't know where you get your info from
They had to built the LT-1 a little stronger to make it reliable with that DIRECT INJECTION crap.
Masked Masters not crap , at all .
@@dubocupo8647 carbon build up isn't crap? It plagued my Focus RS, hopefully not my 1le as well.
Vosovogalsyncope carbon build up is one small problem with the new LT motors but the benefits have a way longer list . Did you see the l83 ( gen V 5.3 ) make 800 hp on #8 of boost ? That’s insane . I don’t really care about your pos , stick with the bow tie.
This the new lt1 or the crap old 90s LT1
My 2019 camaro gen6 lt1 engine blow up with 4k miles, can you help me ? have a whatsapp to talk?
Hi!..Just want to shout out to all that I have an LT1 engine in my 17' Super Sport Camaro!!
it will implode
jon peterson why?
@@albertgarcia7091 they have been since they came out in 2014
Not even close to a Windsor
That's one of the best things I read in years old school has potential that has been written off so many times looking at the differences here shows some of the weakness in the LS the only LS I've ever been impressed with was an LS 7 a friend of mine had
greatly engineered engine
But will over time still suffer from 4 bolt per cylinder and webbing issues if consistently driven hard
An aquantence of mine was putting old school blowers on them for skid cars without upgrading anything Sept lifters and rockers valve train stuff he windowed that many of em it was criminal and he wernt even getting a hell of a lot of power out of em till he got sensible and run em on alcohol with mechanical and kept off the dickhead limiter
Some of the toughest cars he was competing against were blown small block chevs and old school blown Ford's with mechanical injection and alcohol
I'd say most were after market or special blocks though or had been engineered for reliability
They should have different days at skid fests one for cars with limiters and one for cars without and I'l stay home for one
Misleading
I drove a LT-1 in a 1994 Z-28. I wasn't impressed. I drove a L88 5.7L 350 in a 1980 Stingray Corvette. That car was a piece of junk. I don't like Tuned Port Injection either. I think Chevy in general I just didn't like. My First two cars a 1983,1984 Z-28 5.0L 305. I got a Mitsubishi Galant 2000 now and, I'm happy.
This is the Gen 5 LT1 in the current Camaro SS and LT1, not the old 90's LT1.