Stouty how do you feel about the barbarian class? Sometimes it feels like the class just doesn't have enough tools and is only really good for grinding up mobs. Kinda slow, not a lot of armor, but good damage. It's just too bad the two handed weapons are as slow as molasses
Barb works in 1vXes just gets punished so hard, you don't have any room for mistakes in your footwork or swings, if someone gets onto you and you miss a swing then that momentum loss is enough to lose the fight. Sheathe your weapon for faster move speed and try to make sure if you are gonna eat a hit that it hits you on the limb and not the chest or head, you can do this by turning or jumping depending on hit angle like in the clip below. Might make a montage of all my xes this test as I've not seen a barb Xing tage, but probably not I'm lazy so I'll just type a few things I've learned here, hopefully it's helpful :) ua-cam.com/video/O8oUcnZ6KSI/v-deo.html (If you see your enemy has a cleric you need to force an engage before they can buff coz if they do buff their team with shields you need to sheathe and run, bait em through a few rooms with mobs to make it more hectic for them and use the mobs as shields then turn on them the second the buffs/shields run and rush the cleric) (If the enemy team has an archer with a good bow you NEED a good ambush or to kite into mobs to block the arrow shots whilst you deal with the melee's, honestly I probably wouldn't fight an archer team until you're confident on barb, archers are your worst enemy) Fighters, Rogues, Clerics, Wizards and other barbs are all easy to beat without cleric buffs as long as you space well. Wizards that use their speed buff on their melees instead of spamming spells you can dodge are also a problem, you need to sheathe weapon and sprint past the melees and nuke that wizard down before he gives speed to a fighter or a rogue and they get in your ass. Barb for life, we don't need tools we have smashas, choppas and a VERY threatening skinnyfat bodytype. Oh and also remember you can't win every X take all your losses on the chin each one is a mistake that you can learn from, that's the mindset you need if you want to improve and X consistently
for the newer player to knw that video is showing him being able to 1v3 but u need to knw that the 2 hand weapons are very strong that could do 60+ damg per hit. He is a great player since it is still hard to 1v3 even with gear. But wanted the new players to knw that you dnt start with those two hand weapons that start at high damg numbers.
So is there any reason to not just swing, use good movement, and have a weapon with good range? there is no parrying feature correct? no increased swing speed on a block, etc? Love the concept, hard to gauage if I'd love the combat.
Viable, but it only really works so well cuz it just boils down to the fact that fighter is incredibly strong and versatile + you being fully geared out. Using the other classes and going solo, especially if starting off with default equipment really wouldnt work nearly as well
Not only is solo viable, but it’s viable with many of the characters! I struggled in 1vx with wizard but that was just bad spacing. I am really excited for what they have in store for this game.
@@LegitFireXx You can also duck under attacks and footwork away. but there's not really any active defense unless you have a shield. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I actually really enjoyed the combat when I tried it out.
i mean it's pretty realistic in my opinion. wizards are low strength so they struggle to swing their staffs, rogues have fast attacks for obvious reasons, rangers shoot pretty damn fast, as someone who would call themselves fairly proficient with a bow i personally take about 2-3 seconds to aim and release an aimed shot. fighters depending on the weapon attack either fast or slow but honestly the weapon choices that are slow make sense as you're looking at about 8-12lbs of iron or steel. cleric swings pretty fast for a clergyman and finally barbarian imo needs to be slow for gameplay balance but yeah he does definitely attack slower than you'd expect.
Also had a laugh in the steam community for dark and darker some guy in there is claiming to be a streamer and that this game is too hard for people without friends to play with and the like dude is on some mad copium he’s calling everyone out and says they are all just devs on alts it’s a good laugh if you wanna check it ou.
Fighters feel a bit too strong. Need to make them slower and slower action speed. Maybe adjust the hit boxes on bigger weapons to catch my more on terrain or be able to dodge them just a little easier
I really hope devs don't cater to all the stupid demands people are making with a game they've barely played. Gamers don't give themselves a chance to learn the ropes to get good at a game and it is so unbearably sad to see developers fold under the pressure of idiots.
I tried watching the gameplay, and it actually seems nice at 1.5x Speed... the velocity the characters walk are awful, it feels like youre walking ontop of oil hole lol 😂😂
@@PuritaniaTraum as you can aim where you swing and the shield stays stationary it's pretty easy to just hit around the shield. I personally would want to see a buff and nerf to the shied Buffed in the aspect of it being able to position up or down to block attacks proper. Nerfed in regards to what it CAN block. I want shields to have stopping power depending on the type of shield, this would go into a formula along with your strength to determine just how much damage you CAN block. if it exceeds a threshold you get staggered and if it exceeds a higher threshold you still take some of the damage.
@@matttaylor1996 balancing blocking is really hard, a stamina bar for blocking or something in that concept would maybe be good because when i played barb with a two handed axe all attacks are from above so the guy just spammed block above him and i could never hit him, every time he just waited for the strike, blocked and countered back before i could get the second hit in, and on repeat until i just let my archers work his legs...altho sometimes jumping when someone is blocking up to kinda get the back of his head also works, but again, he can just aim the shield higher.
Love the video tired of people complaining about solos. Change up the play style use the map to your advantage if your constantly losing. Once u survive get some better gear then surfing will be easier
@@Stouty Oh yea. I keep forgetting to check those damned upload dates. But im sure we can agree that with the low skillcap, when above average melee players collide its hardly mechanical skill that will decide the winner. Pretty much just a slugging match decided by gear - positioning - team comp / play and current HP at time of engagement :D I always see you as barb, but with your melee skill you probably ought to switch to rogue main and just run around naked to capitalize on dodging skills.
@@Stouty Yea thats true. Alot of players didn't know what they were doing. I dunno why tho, i think its a pretty slow paced and easy game. Even if i would prefer some faster move and swing speed, i kinda hope they keep it nooby as it is now. Cus that way the game wont die like all the other sweaty melees.
It would be nice if the difference between the items is not too severe. I don't think the defense capabilities of enemies equipped with high-end items are harmed by my basic weapons at all. (Maybe it's because of the potion.) Developers should choose whether to nuff armor or buff basic weapons. No matter how high-end items are, the damage gap will have to be resolved with two or three attack counts.
i think a more complex hit box system would be nice like in tarkov, for example if someone has an open face helmet if you stab him with a weapon (or shoot an arrow) exactly in the face it would almost if not actually 1 tap him etc... and if he is wearing a closed face helmet then it lowers his field of vision, in Tarkov it works pretty good, even if you have bad ammo or gun you can still always 1 tap someone if you manage to hit him in the face area. in the end this game is Tarkov in a battle royal setup.
The game does seem interesting but the combat is literally just: if you deal more damage you win. Left click until people are dead, I'm not sure this is going to be fun in a long run there is no expression of skill here whatsoever.
The cut at 2:18 is what an insecure person with no self respect would do. Take a lesson from too tier content creators and show the big ups and downs man. Don’t act like you survived that.
ah yes, shitting on a very very early playtest...if you understand anything about game development youd know that there are more important things to balance out first, sound is always easy to add/change...theres a reason online in this game sky rockets pretty fast and getting people addicted to it, even in its current state its an amazing game.
@@mike8386 sound is not easy to add. You don't just add sound it needs to be done properly to be good. The fact that they don't have it at all says a lot lol cope harder
@@sumnik852 i said its easy compared to other MORE important stuff when you do early play tests, these details should be added later. Its says a lot about people like you that think early tests are final products...
3:52 How it feels to chew 5 gum
that's satisfying as hell
Hnnnngggg!
The game is amazing. I loved every second of the playtest.
OMG CRUSH SPOTTED AT THE 0:12 MARK!!!! Dark and Darker X Mordhau crossover????!!!!!
Solo was a struggle at first but learning the game, and the map getting more loot made it one of the most fun games I’ve played in 2022
10 mins of pure laughing material. Looks like a fun game
bruh the spider multikill at 3:52 got me weak
hope this game blows up. need more mainstream melee games
Nice video. Out of all the classes you've played, how would you list them from best to worst in terms of solo capability?
when rich: fighter. When poor: cleric
Love the atmosphere of this game
This game was surprisingly a lot of fun I can’t wait for the next play test
These two-handed weapons are the truth, nice collection of clips
2:26 when you resurrect only to die again...
Combat is about as fast as I am in my nightmares
Stouty how do you feel about the barbarian class? Sometimes it feels like the class just doesn't have enough tools and is only really good for grinding up mobs. Kinda slow, not a lot of armor, but good damage. It's just too bad the two handed weapons are as slow as molasses
yeah the only good wep on barb is the bardiche, the door smashing perk is very fun though
@@Stouty Don't understand why you can block with the Bardiche, but not any of the other weapons lol
Barb works in 1vXes just gets punished so hard, you don't have any room for mistakes in your footwork or swings, if someone gets onto you and you miss a swing then that momentum loss is enough to lose the fight. Sheathe your weapon for faster move speed and try to make sure if you are gonna eat a hit that it hits you on the limb and not the chest or head, you can do this by turning or jumping depending on hit angle like in the clip below. Might make a montage of all my xes this test as I've not seen a barb Xing tage, but probably not I'm lazy so I'll just type a few things I've learned here, hopefully it's helpful :)
ua-cam.com/video/O8oUcnZ6KSI/v-deo.html
(If you see your enemy has a cleric you need to force an engage before they can buff coz if they do buff their team with shields you need to sheathe and run, bait em through a few rooms with mobs to make it more hectic for them and use the mobs as shields then turn on them the second the buffs/shields run and rush the cleric)
(If the enemy team has an archer with a good bow you NEED a good ambush or to kite into mobs to block the arrow shots whilst you deal with the melee's, honestly I probably wouldn't fight an archer team until you're confident on barb, archers are your worst enemy) Fighters, Rogues, Clerics, Wizards and other barbs are all easy to beat without cleric buffs as long as you space well. Wizards that use their speed buff on their melees instead of spamming spells you can dodge are also a problem, you need to sheathe weapon and sprint past the melees and nuke that wizard down before he gives speed to a fighter or a rogue and they get in your ass.
Barb for life, we don't need tools we have smashas, choppas and a VERY threatening skinnyfat bodytype. Oh and also remember you can't win every X take all your losses on the chin each one is a mistake that you can learn from, that's the mindset you need if you want to improve and X consistently
Why is the game in slow motion?
casual game
That spider cleave was so intensely satisfying
for the newer player to knw that video is showing him being able to 1v3 but u need to knw that the 2 hand weapons are very strong that could do 60+ damg per hit. He is a great player since it is still hard to 1v3 even with gear. But wanted the new players to knw that you dnt start with those two hand weapons that start at high damg numbers.
5:56 that guys that gets 1 tapped is like "dont worry guys i got this!"
Is combat going to speed up at some point? Its so slow lol, also no blocking?
4:07 you can block spear with axe shaft???? Never seen that
Man, the weapons felt much better in this playtest than the one we have going on now in February.
what perks for fighter u use and why? and skills/ weapons combos
second wind and sprint, they're just the best picks
What a gem of a game man
So is there any reason to not just swing, use good movement, and have a weapon with good range? there is no parrying feature correct? no increased swing speed on a block, etc? Love the concept, hard to gauage if I'd love the combat.
pretty much, there is blocking but too risky to try
5:05 holy shit that killed me
You're a good man, a good clean man, and thorough
Hey stout wats the melee like? Is it anything like mordhau?
it's like mordhau with very limited blocking, so a very casual but fun experience
@@Stouty interesting! I'm gonna be playing the next play test on the 28th! Hope to cya there.
Is there block/parry in this game?
Yeah but it's too unreliable to use + some weps can't block
Block yes parry no.
6:00 dude was told to wait for his turn
Viable, but it only really works so well cuz it just boils down to the fact that fighter is incredibly strong and versatile + you being fully geared out. Using the other classes and going solo, especially if starting off with default equipment really wouldnt work nearly as well
I solo'd with berserker and cleric as well (which were featured in the vid). I got my fighter geared and levelled purely from solo play
@@Stouty respectable
i enjoyed rogue solo, really only need a blue weapon and invis pot to be a big threat.
Nice. I see you favoured 2 handed weapons a lot. What was your favourite weapon to use?
spear was op
Not only is solo viable, but it’s viable with many of the characters! I struggled in 1vx with wizard but that was just bad spacing. I am really excited for what they have in store for this game.
Is the footage slowed down?
no
Alternative title:
Solo IS viable (If you’re Stouty)!
Mordhau changed a lot since I played it
Game looks so cool, but why is it in slow motion
casual game
if the walk speed was just a bit faster just looks a bit too sluggish for me
idk if i can wait a whole month to hop back in. I havent had one successful run yet and i keep blaming my team but i should be soloing like this lmao
What was your buil(perk setup)
can't remember lol
@@Stouty lol I love the fighter thinking about running a sword and board/halberd
so is this a solid game or not when we gettin a review stouty
Not sure if a pre-alpha really warrants a review but the play test was brilliant
@@Stouty fair
How to you jump into Beta testing?
next month
Game looks cool, but I cant get over that swing speed it feels like I'm in my dream fighting
The walk speed as well, whole thing seems super slow and clunky but definitely interesting
@@Liam-ke2hv will probably go up with gear stats and level stats and whatnot
I like how you just put in like a spider octo kill
the movement speed and attack speed being that slow throws me off a bit
This game reminds me of DND combat. Just swing at eachother until someone dies.
Or you could use potions spells and sneak attack
@@LegitFireXx You can also duck under attacks and footwork away. but there's not really any active defense unless you have a shield. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I actually really enjoyed the combat when I tried it out.
2:17 did u survive that one?
I did not, I think I tried to rush the gate without clearing mobs
The gameplay in this game is permanently stuck in slow motion
i mean it's pretty realistic in my opinion. wizards are low strength so they struggle to swing their staffs, rogues have fast attacks for obvious reasons, rangers shoot pretty damn fast, as someone who would call themselves fairly proficient with a bow i personally take about 2-3 seconds to aim and release an aimed shot. fighters depending on the weapon attack either fast or slow but honestly the weapon choices that are slow make sense as you're looking at about 8-12lbs of iron or steel. cleric swings pretty fast for a clergyman and finally barbarian imo needs to be slow for gameplay balance but yeah he does definitely attack slower than you'd expect.
Also had a laugh in the steam community for dark and darker some guy in there is claiming to be a streamer and that this game is too hard for people without friends to play with and the like dude is on some mad copium he’s calling everyone out and says they are all just devs on alts it’s a good laugh if you wanna check it ou.
Looks fun!
have you tried the mordhau mod rpg misteria?
not yet
Is that like mordhau dungeons and dragons but bad?
its like mordhau but mixed with escape from tarkov plus DND, its very fun and this is still pre alpha
At first I thought this was Mortal lol.
This game looks nuttz.
imagine he got a healer after
Fighters feel a bit too strong. Need to make them slower and slower action speed. Maybe adjust the hit boxes on bigger weapons to catch my more on terrain or be able to dodge them just a little easier
The spider kills lmao
looks like he's drinking slo-mo potion
I really hope devs don't cater to all the stupid demands people are making with a game they've barely played. Gamers don't give themselves a chance to learn the ropes to get good at a game and it is so unbearably sad to see developers fold under the pressure of idiots.
Someone has purples on. Its rough getting to them but fun.
ty for posting.
ok these kills are just hilarious
Maybe I'm missing somethin here, but this game looks like a melee game for stoners? It's like playing any other melee game but at 1/4 speed
The setting seems very cool though
I feel like it's to make space for the class system, e.g. rogues move at more "normal" speeds, mages/rangers can exploit terrain etc
full gameplay is more fun to watch. when i want to watch only fights, i go watch top dog.
that's what twitch VODs are for
True ^^ but still good Video btw
i dont even know what game this is but im 7 minutes deep asking myself why the hell im still watching, must be decent.
I tried watching the gameplay, and it actually seems nice at 1.5x Speed... the velocity the characters walk are awful, it feels like youre walking ontop of oil hole lol 😂😂
is it possible to block in this game or was everyone just bad at it...
it's too risky to attempt
@@Stouty wut....why would blocking be risky. Blocking is a crucial part of any good melee game
@@PuritaniaTraum in this game it's very difficult to block successfully
@@PuritaniaTraum as you can aim where you swing and the shield stays stationary it's pretty easy to just hit around the shield. I personally would want to see a buff and nerf to the shied
Buffed in the aspect of it being able to position up or down to block attacks proper.
Nerfed in regards to what it CAN block. I want shields to have stopping power depending on the type of shield, this would go into a formula along with your strength to determine just how much damage you CAN block. if it exceeds a threshold you get staggered and if it exceeds a higher threshold you still take some of the damage.
@@matttaylor1996 balancing blocking is really hard, a stamina bar for blocking or something in that concept would maybe be good because when i played barb with a two handed axe all attacks are from above so the guy just spammed block above him and i could never hit him, every time he just waited for the strike, blocked and countered back before i could get the second hit in, and on repeat until i just let my archers work his legs...altho sometimes jumping when someone is blocking up to kinda get the back of his head also works, but again, he can just aim the shield higher.
ahh yes viable = every enemy missing their swings by a mile
yeah the vast majority of players are bad hence why it's so viable lol
Solo is viable if you completely out-gear your opponents and have like 9 health potions.
The whole point is moot. 1 of this guy VS 3 of this guy and the 1 loses most.
What nobody's arguing; That it cannot be done.
3 of this guy gets bored of playing as a squad so chooses solo
the audio is so awkward lmao
3:52 LMAO
pvp god
fighter op
This was a great video dont get me wrong but there is next to no video
Lmao, who would have thought someone in full gear would have been able to take on 3 chumps?
wait till my next video, you will regret your words and deeds
It's like mordhau on heroin
Yes it is viable when you have a good loadout and 4 perk
I did solo extracts today with default gear
Look at you 2 tapping all those low level undergeared noobs
Love the video tired of people complaining about solos. Change up the play style use the map to your advantage if your constantly losing. Once u survive get some better gear then surfing will be easier
in normal mode yes. But wizard is still the only viable solo highroller.
this was made before high roller was added
@@Stouty Oh yea. I keep forgetting to check those damned upload dates.
But im sure we can agree that with the low skillcap, when above average melee players collide its hardly mechanical skill that will decide the winner. Pretty much just a slugging match decided by gear - positioning - team comp / play and current HP at time of engagement :D
I always see you as barb, but with your melee skill you probably ought to switch to rogue main and just run around naked to capitalize on dodging skills.
@@Pvt-Lenny yeah I'd say it's 80% gear, either way the majority of players aren't close to the low ceiling
@@Stouty Yea thats true. Alot of players didn't know what they were doing. I dunno why tho, i think its a pretty slow paced and easy game.
Even if i would prefer some faster move and swing speed, i kinda hope they keep it nooby as it is now. Cus that way the game wont die like all the other sweaty melees.
It would be nice if the difference between the items is not too severe.
I don't think the defense capabilities of enemies equipped with high-end items are harmed by my basic weapons at all. (Maybe it's because of the potion.)
Developers should choose whether to nuff armor or buff basic weapons.
No matter how high-end items are, the damage gap will have to be resolved with two or three attack counts.
i think a more complex hit box system would be nice like in tarkov, for example if someone has an open face helmet if you stab him with a weapon (or shoot an arrow) exactly in the face it would almost if not actually 1 tap him etc... and if he is wearing a closed face helmet then it lowers his field of vision, in Tarkov it works pretty good, even if you have bad ammo or gun you can still always 1 tap someone if you manage to hit him in the face area. in the end this game is Tarkov in a battle royal setup.
Solo is viable if you run across a group of people with literally nothing kek
Not against competent enemies it isn't.
Too dark, adjust gamma
Fggot
gamma wont help, the game is just dark on purpose.
not viable you play only vs starter player, if dont work 1v3 vs 3 player blue/purple more
plenty of geared opponents in these clips
THAT BARDICHE SWING UNNNNNNGGHHHH YEAH!
god stouty please solo me
🤓
possible =/= viable
10 minute montage from a 4 day test, seems viable to me
The game does seem interesting but the combat is literally just: if you deal more damage you win. Left click until people are dead, I'm not sure this is going to be fun in a long run there is no expression of skill here whatsoever.
agreed
Why are these games not up there with trash like "NEW WORLD" is beyond me. you want a PVP focused MMO game? here it is.
Boooored game
everyone thinks like that in the beginning and then playing until 5 AM without realizing... :P
The cut at 2:18 is what an insecure person with no self respect would do. Take a lesson from too tier content creators and show the big ups and downs man. Don’t act like you survived that.
a) I could have but I didn't kill the skeleton before portalling
b) it's a montage, not whatever you think it is
Lmao this game has NO sound design, garbage
ah yes, shitting on a very very early playtest...if you understand anything about game development youd know that there are more important things to balance out first, sound is always easy to add/change...theres a reason online in this game sky rockets pretty fast and getting people addicted to it, even in its current state its an amazing game.
@@mike8386 sound is not easy to add. You don't just add sound it needs to be done properly to be good. The fact that they don't have it at all says a lot lol cope harder
@@sumnik852 i said its easy compared to other MORE important stuff when you do early play tests, these details should be added later.
Its says a lot about people like you that think early tests are final products...