Isaiah 45:21-22 [21]Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. [22]Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Repent and turn to Yah, believe in Yah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep his commandments bless.
man this video saved me, thank you so much. it’s so difficult finding video guides with the same bios as mine i also have the same motherboard and cpu :)
Isaiah 45:21-22 [21]Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. [22]Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Repent and turn to Yah, believe in Yah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep his commandments bless.
Thank you for this! Noticed a good temp for me now( at least I think so with stock cooler), before I was averaging 75c and peaking at 83c, now I'm averaging 68c and peaking at 77c.
I'm having performance issues with Cubase so I tried quite a few different things, but this is the first one that made a significant impact. Thank you for the video, you are the man!
Wow! thats Great. Yes, I get similar results after I change the BIOS like this. If you don't mind a little more heat when you do a render or something you can turn up the load-line calibrations to level 3 or 4 maybe. Start lower and go higher watching your temps if you do that tho. You can eek out a little more performance in cinebench and other rendering tools. The gain is pretty small and I don't bother with it but if you are going for scores...? Thanks for the feedback and good luck!
Thanks a lot.....have the same CPU and the motherboard. Used the same settings and could only offset the voltage upto -0.0685. Getting better thermals ( upto 8-10 deg less) and performance.....thanks again
@@capslockculture6223 unfortunately I have lost the silicon lottery and in cinebench R20 on PBO i used to get around 4450. The highest I got with all core overclock to 4.25GHz with 1.4 V was around 4800 but temps were 82 deg....with your help my temps max at 71 and a score of 4732,,,,thanks again
@@killerberry373 THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME THOUGH! Hmm..lemme ponder on that R20 score you are getting with the undervolt. There may be a way to bump it up a little more. But either way..your electric bill should go down some from it. Haha! Oh, whats your RAM setup like?
Wow,of all the videos ive seen about lowering temps this has made biggest impact on my cpu..went from 85degrees in heaven benchmark to wopping 60degrees!! Awsome man!! Thats 25degrees celsius difference!!
Thanks I've been trying to get my EDC under control I didn't know you could tune the EDC in the Bios though again I'm kind of new to overclocking. So this is a nice bit of information thank you
Hello, I have an issue. I just got the Ryzen 5 5600x + GTX 3070 with an Asus Motherboard + Corsair h60 cooler. I got high Temperature Idle (42 to 46 degrees) / In-game (65 to 78 degree with low graphics). To fix it (found this on reddit and people said it worked) I have to change 2 settings in the bios but I can't find the equivalent name in "Asus" motherboard _Find "Core Voltage" (it can be also named Vcore) and change from "AUTO" to 1.2V. _Set your" CPU Clock Speed" from "AUTO" to 4.5GHz (BIOS can offer you some speeds which appear like 45,45.25 etc.) I can't find the "Core Voltage" (CPU I think ?) and "CPU Clock Speed". People are getting better result about temperature.. Someone knows where I can find / change this variables ? I don't want to damage my PC by changing the wrong settings..
i testing with prime 95, small ffts on linux wih a 5950x, i used different power limits and voltages (about 1.16v) and when you showed where the current settings were i put in some recommended figures from another article and knocked 4C from my very high temps... cheers
3600, unfortunately the Hyper 213 LED(old) didn't had had a mounting kit for the Ryzen but I'm glad the mobo comes with a bracket, unfortunately it looks like Cooler isn't getting more pressure to the heat spreader so I went with undervolting. This help a lot, thanks
yep its because the old CM hyper 212 uses the old copper sandwich design ( i mean its a mixture of copper & aluminum leaving some gap uncovered by copper) and ryzen die is designed different compare to intel + the small size of 7nm. This is the reason why most current cooler yep AIR coolers are all pure solid copper cold-plate instead of the traditional design.
My asus rog advanced bois utility mode looks nothing like this and has no options for AI tweaking or any way to change cpu voltage. I dont know what to do.
I tried this and only changed the Freq to 3200 and the FCLK to 1600. When my computer restarted it went into BIOS mode and said it may be unstable. I have the same Ryzen 3700X and TUF X570 Plus. Any suggestions on what to do? I had to revert back to the 2133 settings. Thanks
Hmm, Sorry to hear that. Every setup is a little different. What's your DRAM? Frequency and all that. Did the available voltage for the RAM also increase automatically in the BIOS? Also what's your PSU? Instability can be caused by a shortage of power when you are trying to open up the available current on each component. I have gotten that system instability message before but only when I tighten the timings on the RAM or when I'm messing with voltages.
my cpu is idle at 50+ until i use ryzen master and turn my voltage down to 1.25ish and it drops to the 30s and 40s any idea why? i have the Asus x470 prime pro and a ryzen 7 5800x. re did my thermal paste 3 times because it was overheating
D.O.C.P seems to screw with my linux system. I don't know why, but disabling it seems to fix a lot of problems I was having. Linux Distro Pop OS! (Ubuntu 21.04)
Probably not gonna bother with a higher end cooler because the 3700x is just a 60W chip and the X570 has good enough VRM to handle the 3700x even when it gets hot. I felt my idle temp was too warm but after I posted this video I was able to get my idle temp down to the mid thirties (about a 6degC drop) by following this tutorial and shutting off background services. ua-cam.com/video/AiL4E56t8YI/v-deo.html
@@capslockculture6223So the 3700x is a very sweet cpu on the right motherboard.Another thought,I'm getting a Phantek P510 for a future build.Thinking of waiting for the 4000 series to hit the market, and seeing if the x3950's drop in price.Throw in 32gigs of 3600 MHz 🐏 and a decent video card.
How can I restore the values? I want my PC to go back to it's natural CPU frequency I selected the wizard just to try but I found out there was a popping sound that is getting annoying, so I thought I should get this to normal to see if it's causing the problem, how do I do that?
I HAVE asus crosshair vi extreme and i put manual volt on 3700x 1.28750 on 4.45ghz and my score on r20 is 5437 with 16gb 3600ghz ram.i close all the auto overclock.
Hey I’m here to thank u for helping… I was trying to undervolt using offset cpu , but just didn’t realize how to change value, what was my surprise when I saw that bar “auto” under - signal, that was just under my nose all the time LOL
Appreciate your guidance, I was looking to set my mboard voltage (TUF BM-450 PLUS II) to a máximum peak of 1.36 V. Since on Ryzen Master shows that the EDC is running at 99% (90A, Limit 255A) when executing some games like warzone, is this normal? I´ve tried to solve this changing the windows energy mode but it doesn´t change at all when running games. PSDT: My temps are going low from 37°c on rest to 65° while playing or editing. Also I´ve found that the EDC at 99% its a normal behavior on Ryzen cpu´s. Thanks for the info anyways.
Hey, you can increase the edc limit, i have the same motherboad, you should go to ai tweaker, precision boost overdrive and there are limits there. I have ryzen 5600 and my sweet spot is ppt 75 edc 105 and tdc 70. If i increase more, i get much more temperature than i get performance, so no point increasing. Cinebench r23 score 11000 and thermals about 60c. If you want more performance at the cost of heat, increase ppt limit to like 100 and edc to like 115.
Hi, I have the same processor and motherboard. I would like to keep it stable at 4.3ghz and with a voltage below 1.35. it will be used for the server and will be connected for 24/7 with an average CPU usage of 70% daily. Can I follow your tutorial for what I want?
Hi! I've only been able to hold a stable 4.3 frequency in the CPU using the Ryzen Master software. But I have gotten it to hold stable at 4.3ghz. Although given the additional heat caused by forcing the cores up to that frequency you might reach thermal throttling limits depending on what you are doing. Most of what I do in my tutorial is show you how to open up the headroom so the CPU is able to access the extra power if it wants it for any given task...like exporting video. With the negative offset to my CPU voltage it keeps the chip much cooler and runs just a little slower....which I'm fine with given that some of the benchmarks I ran with brought a lot closer to the 95C shutdown the CPU has built in. I did not modify the thermal limit in the BiOS. Good luck and if you remember let me know how it's going. I can do a tutorial on a 4.3 static frequency with this chip if it'd help but I would just use ryzen master software for that!
I would keep an eye on your thermals under load. Getting to 4.3ghz would require the addition of voltage and current to the chip and RAM which will create heat. BUT! A colder chip can handle more current and voltage than a warm one! 'Gamers Nexus' has videos about this and so does Buildzoid on his channel 'actual hardcore overclocking'. A water cooling system may need necessary to hold the thermals down under load...or you may just thermal throttle away any gains you might have made from overclocking the chip. Sorry for the long explanations! :)
I have the same setup as you and when I tried this the PC didn't load. It came back on and said it POSTED in safe mode due to the previous attempt failing because of system instability.
I over clocked my ryzen 7 3700x and now i cant get it to downclock at idle.. Amd cool and quiet doesnt exist in my TUF X570 plus wifi board. I changed my power plan in windows to 5% minimum on the cpu but it still sits @ 4.3ghz even @ idle. Anyone have any ideas?
Tried resetting the BIOS? Beyond that: Do you have Ryzen Master? I'm curious to know if your cores are actually throttling and how much. Also what temps are your working with at idle 4.3 ghz? The video on this page is showing how to undervolt not overclock but overclocking on the X570 can be rough because of the VRMs (voltage regulation modules).
Those are values for current (in amps). For instance TDC (thermal-design current) is the max amount of current the motherboard will allow the CPU to use. So if you want your CPU to draw more power to attain a higher frequency then these are good to raise some. These will increase your thermals too, of course, so when you raise these values to allow more overhead for your CPU you must keep on eye on the CPU temp. But on my rig I had more temperature difference from adjusting the load-line calibration than I did the current values from the PPT/EDC or TDC.
Question- when in precision boost overdrive, changing to manual doesn't let me adjust any of the limits. Is it because I have the prime x570 pro? Not the tuff gaming?
Hmm...the ASUS bios is similar for most modern MBs. I'm not sure why you can't adjust those settings. I would say if updating your bios to the latest version (if you haven't already) doesn't work and allow you to change those setting I would contact ASUS customer service and ask them about it. Can you adjust other settings outside of the PBO?
Hello I have the same board but after I start the pc I have this dram light on and no signal to the monitor ? What seems to problem is beyond me please help my first pc build
Whats your setup? You have an ASUS x570 tug gaming MB, what is you CPU and GPU (include a 3rd party like gigabyte if they altered the card)? Also, whats the MHZ speed of your RAM and clock speeds if you have it? I would get the DRAM post light pretty much only when I was trying to overclock the RAM. My typical problem was not giving it enough voltage which would activate the RAM light on my motherboard while it was trying to post. Other questions: 1) does your computer post right now? 2) can you get into the bios and see anything or is the monitor unable to provide a picture?
Man........ I don't own the same model but I own the Asus TUF Gaming B550M Plus with pair of 16GB 3600 RAM. For the love of life I was trying for days with this whole timing thing and getting now where. I followed your steps and Bam I got the board to recognize at 3600 speed. I just hope I don't break anything with all the voltage changes you did on my B550.
Nice! Keep an eye on your temps because a high voltage will manifest itself as higher temperatures. But I've found the alterations in the PBO settings don't affect temperature that much. But I would say that my method of opening up the potential voltage/current that a chip can pull to accomplish a task is far safer and more efficient than just setting the voltage for your CPU at 1.4 or higher BUT I will say this...one of my cinebench runs I did set my CPU voltage to 1.4 and locked all the cores at 4.3Ghz. I posted a cinebench score of 5186 which is almost 300 above the method I use daily with unlocked cores. The temperature only reached 79C even with all cores locked to 4.3 and the CPU voltage put up to 1.4. So that's a safe setup as far as I can tell. However, I don't use that setup because its a huge waste of energy to have your MB juiced all the time. The negative offset gets you solid performance with VERY efficient energy use of the chip.
I would add that since you are messing with timings that upping your load-line current can increase stability with memory clocking. Just try starting at a lower setting for the LLC before going up. Those settings are capable of increasing heat as well.
er...uh...the RM1000x. Not my first choice but when I assembled this computer (running the 3700x with the x570 motherboard) there was a run on PSU's so thats what I ended up with. Way too much power...I imagine the fan will never even turn on in the entire use of the computer...unless those new 30xx series video cards from Nvidia draw a whole lot of power...
Hi question, my Ryzen 5 3600 current frequency is 3.95 Ghz. Recently it's 3.59 Ghz. How would I go back to normal base speed. The manual says it's base speed is 3.6 Ghz. Please help me
Hi Joseph, I just use Ryzen Master when I want to change (increase) the operating frequency of my CPU. In this video I just show you how to open up the power limits to allow these new ryzen gen 3 CPUs to draw the power they need/want when under load - which actually naturally rises their frequencies to accomplish workloads but in a more effecient manner than just clocking it at the highest frequency possible. For my method the trade is this : way better effiency (I estimate 25% or more for my setup) and lower core temps (about -10c lower in most benchmarks I run going more than 10 min) in exchange for a relatively small (6-10%) decrease in performance. But when I want that extra performance maxed out!?: I just use Ryzen Master and try not to think about it rather than methodically messing with the voltage and RAM timings.
Capslock. Hi we have the same motherboard. But only 2 of the RAM slots are working (3rd and 4th). I know it's not the RAM modules because it posts when seated at those 2 slots, but when moved to slots 1 and 2, the LED post indicator stays orange and nothing happens on the monitor. I have already updated the BIOS to the latest release (8/17/2020) ver. 2607. I just want to know if there is something I can "tweak" to make this work before considering the possibility that the motherboard is faulty. I built this system in October of last year (2019).
Hmm..if you have the ASUS X570 tuf gaming like mine the RAM slots should be A2 and B2. You might just want to take one RAM mod and slot it in A2 and see if it posts. Then add the other one to the B2 slot. Check yer manual also if you need to! It was chapter 1 section 5 of my manual that described installing the RAM for the X570. Even if the RAM is installed into two slots and your computer POSTS you would still want to have your RAM in the slots that will allow them to run in dual-channel which will speed up your computer. A2 and B2 will give you that. Then if you add to more modules use A1 and B1 I believe is the right order. Let me know how this works out and if you can even get into the BIOS on startup. If we can get to the BIOS we can figure it out! Good luck!
@@capslockculture6223 I did just that. Populated A2 and B2, NO go.....then A1 and B1, still no go. Only works with B1 and B2 slots. Weird, really weird. Which means that I am not getting dual channel function. I have emailed Asus about this and I am waiting for their response. THanks for your attention though, I really appreciate it.
@@KMacFNP Hey mate, sry to hear that about the MoBo still not functioning properly. Yeah, I'd try to contact ASUS (and check to see if you are still under a warrantee possibly??). I haven't googled your issue yet to see if some other folks have posted a similar problem but I might do that and see what is out there in a while.
@@KMacFNP Hi, My son's pc has exactly the same problem after the first BIOS update, it only reads RAM in B1 and B2. as it was before bios update A2 and B2 now it turns on RAM error led. could you find the solution? I would appreciate.
Hey capslock for some reason i dont have ai overclock tuner for some reason. i have the ASUS x470 tuf motherboard wit ryzen 2700x cpu 1080 gpu, could you tell me why i dont have that setting option ?
Most bizarre. I believe the X470 does have a measure for recognizing the DDR4 although I'm surprised it's not called AI overclock tuner on yours. If you can upload a screenshot of the advanced bios selections it would help. Otherwise ya gotta start with a BIOS update and flash your drive with the most current BIOS version if it's not on there already.
Have you had any issues with the VGA light indicator on the motherboard? My PC boots just fine, but the VGA light has come on sometimes and stayed on after boot. I get video just fine and no other issues than that. I've contacted ASUS about it and I'm waiting on the technicians to look into it.
No, I have not had that problem. How interesting. I wish I could point you in the right direction on that but it could be anything from a bios update to a crossed wire. I hope you hear back form ASUS soon on that!
i watched a video from jays2cents don't get me wrong man i'm not trying to detract from your video i appreciate the run through the bios. he said we should set cpu core voltage - 1.3v cpu soc voltage - 1.2v dram voltage - 1.35v which is standerd for clocking ram. cldo vddg voltage - 1.0v he claimed asus sets these values wayyy over the stock we should have them set and that these are a base line to start pushing an overclock. Just trying to add to the info man i know he's built an ass ton of pc's so.
Don't worry, you aren't detracting from my video: it's about undervolting not overclocking. I'll put one out for overclocking that will include how to balance the voltages for a setup like mine but this video is about under-volting for efficiency. No doubt Jay could tune a setup exactly like mine very well. But I havent seen him do it and I like short videos that get to the point and don't ramble off-topic sometimes too.
@@capslockculture6223 yeah I liked how it was short and too the point I hate sifted through a vid to find the info I need so. I did sub though so I'll be checkin those out if you make em.
Hola amigo mi inglés es muy malo pero te entendí no se como 😁😁 muchas gracias por compartir tú conocimiento muy claro y preciso con tú explicas gracias saludos desde Colombia
I just let the 'auto' feature in the ASUS bios set the fan speeds for me. I'm not overclocking really so I didn't feel the need to artificially elevate the fan speeds and I'm happy with the temperature and performance vs. fan noise trade-off. Although, when I do render a long video sometimes I will overclock the system to shorten the rendertime a little. But I let Ryzen master handle the overclock rather than noodle with it in the bios myself. :)
Is this still an issue now 10 months later? I don't think you need to under-volt 3000 series CPUs as long as you've updated your BIOS. The whole over-volting thing was more of a bug than a feature.
you shouldnt have to do an offset, from my understanding, all you need do is find your FIT voltage and set that as your CPU Voltage, then set a CPU Load-line to keep it from fluctuating ua-cam.com/video/05gOLKjMU90/v-deo.html
That would not allow the CPU to downclock on idle... A fixed voltage is a waste of power and an increased heat even during idle. Offset + Less Vdroop LLC Profile is the best way to undervolt. That allows a global negative offset on the VID curve, while keeping things stable under load thanks to the less Vdroop from the LLC Profile.
Easiest way to understand power your CPU but leave your GPU without anything complicated is to go under power options under processing state and change all the maximum to 50% as under games under load barely use like 20-30% of your CPU and just adjust it when you get any slow downs when normally using your PC my CPU temps went from 96 C to only 50 C and games run even better now as no thermal throttling and then can even overclock your GPU
@@capslockculture6223 i do same for ram like u and Global C-state Control = Enabled Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle CPPC = Enabled CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled PBO i dont touch auto means off i get stable temp no load around 40 and on testing 75 max with dark rock pro 4 cooler and close pc case i dont have air condition in my room...
This help me a lot in setting a negative CPU offset for my ryzen 3600. Couldn't figure out which setting changed only that until I saw this vid. Now my CPU is running around 5 degrees Celsius cooler at full load with a negative offset of 0.05. Multi core performance is only down 12 points in cinebench R20 from 3610 to 3598 :) Might push it to minus 0.10. It did reduce my brother's ryzen 5800x r20 score by 400 points but I think it doesn't affect ryzen 3000 CPUs as much?
CAPSLOCK Culture I fixed it. Somehow my C drive got corrupted but luckily I built a PC for my mom. I migrated windows 10 (the OS I was using) to on of my SSDs and it solved the problem. I even recovered my data and got my system overclocked using Ryzen master.
![Lp. Сердце Вселенной #60 РОЖДЕНИЕ ЛОЛОЛОШКИ [Финал] • Майнкрафт](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/YoR0pAV9FVQ/mqdefault.jpg)
I've had this computer for over 6 months and didn't know to do these things. Thanks for the vid!
Isaiah 45:21-22
[21]Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
[22]Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Repent and turn to Yah, believe in Yah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep his commandments bless.
man this video saved me, thank you so much. it’s so difficult finding video guides with the same bios as mine i also have the same motherboard and cpu :)
Isaiah 45:21-22
[21]Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
[22]Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
Repent and turn to Yah, believe in Yah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob keep his commandments bless.
Thank you for this! Noticed a good temp for me now( at least I think so with stock cooler), before I was averaging 75c and peaking at 83c, now I'm averaging 68c and peaking at 77c.
Absolutely great video. Thank you for taking the time to post it. Very helpful.
I'm having performance issues with Cubase so I tried quite a few different things, but this is the first one that made a significant impact. Thank you for the video, you are the man!
Thanks helped me out! My cinebench score from 4717 to 5003 wow!
Wow! thats Great. Yes, I get similar results after I change the BIOS like this. If you don't mind a little more heat when you do a render or something you can turn up the load-line calibrations to level 3 or 4 maybe. Start lower and go higher watching your temps if you do that tho. You can eek out a little more performance in cinebench and other rendering tools. The gain is pretty small and I don't bother with it but if you are going for scores...? Thanks for the feedback and good luck!
@John Chrysostom Rev 3:9 Sure. But the timings are pretty loose.
Thanks a lot.....have the same CPU and the motherboard. Used the same settings and could only offset the voltage upto -0.0685. Getting better thermals ( upto 8-10 deg less) and performance.....thanks again
That's great! Did you try any rendering test with a before and after? Eh..just curious if it improved your system under a rendering load also.
@@capslockculture6223 unfortunately I have lost the silicon lottery and in cinebench R20 on PBO i used to get around 4450. The highest I got with all core overclock to 4.25GHz with 1.4 V was around 4800 but temps were 82 deg....with your help my temps max at 71 and a score of 4732,,,,thanks again
@@killerberry373 THAT IS FREAKING AWESOME THOUGH! Hmm..lemme ponder on that R20 score you are getting with the undervolt. There may be a way to bump it up a little more. But either way..your electric bill should go down some from it. Haha! Oh, whats your RAM setup like?
@@capslockculture6223 electric bill....lol....just upgraded to a 1200 W PSU...using the G skill 32GB at 3600Mhz
wierd i dotn have any cpu undervolt options at all in m ybios and i have the same bios
Wow,of all the videos ive seen about lowering temps this has made biggest impact on my cpu..went from 85degrees in heaven benchmark to wopping 60degrees!! Awsome man!! Thats 25degrees celsius difference!!
Thanks from France for your video
Thanks I've been trying to get my EDC under control I didn't know you could tune the EDC in the Bios though again I'm kind of new to overclocking. So this is a nice bit of information thank you
thank you bro !! amazing settings
Not a pro, but a genius in comparison!
Thanks for this
Thanks a mill really helped me out!
Why I can't change VDDCR CPU Voltage 1.46, I tried to change CPU voltage manual and with offset mode, but is still high. Can someone help?
Hello, I have an issue. I just got the Ryzen 5 5600x + GTX 3070 with an Asus Motherboard + Corsair h60 cooler. I got high Temperature Idle (42 to 46 degrees) / In-game (65 to 78 degree with low graphics). To fix it (found this on reddit and people said it worked) I have to change 2 settings in the bios but I can't find the equivalent name in "Asus" motherboard
_Find "Core Voltage" (it can be also named Vcore) and change from "AUTO" to 1.2V.
_Set your" CPU Clock Speed" from "AUTO" to 4.5GHz (BIOS can offer you some speeds which appear like 45,45.25 etc.)
I can't find the "Core Voltage" (CPU I think ?) and "CPU Clock Speed". People are getting better result about temperature..
Someone knows where I can find / change this variables ? I don't want to damage my PC by changing the wrong settings..
Great video, thanks!
i testing with prime 95, small ffts on linux wih a 5950x, i used different power limits and voltages (about 1.16v) and when you showed where the current settings were i put in some recommended figures from another article and knocked 4C from my very high temps... cheers
Can you help with the settings for a R5 5600x with a Asus Tuf 550m plus ?
Very usefull tips
3600, unfortunately the Hyper 213 LED(old) didn't had had a mounting kit for the Ryzen but I'm glad the mobo comes with a bracket, unfortunately it looks like Cooler isn't getting more pressure to the heat spreader so I went with undervolting. This help a lot, thanks
yep its because the old CM hyper 212 uses the old copper sandwich design ( i mean its a mixture of copper & aluminum leaving some gap uncovered by copper) and ryzen die is designed different compare to intel + the small size of 7nm.
This is the reason why most current cooler yep AIR coolers are all pure solid copper cold-plate instead of the traditional design.
My asus rog advanced bois utility mode looks nothing like this and has no options for AI tweaking or any way to change cpu voltage. I dont know what to do.
very helpful thanks man
I tried this and only changed the Freq to 3200 and the FCLK to 1600. When my computer restarted it went into BIOS mode and said it may be unstable. I have the same Ryzen 3700X and TUF X570 Plus. Any suggestions on what to do? I had to revert back to the 2133 settings. Thanks
Hmm, Sorry to hear that. Every setup is a little different. What's your DRAM? Frequency and all that. Did the available voltage for the RAM also increase automatically in the BIOS? Also what's your PSU? Instability can be caused by a shortage of power when you are trying to open up the available current on each component. I have gotten that system instability message before but only when I tighten the timings on the RAM or when I'm messing with voltages.
my pc temps are still going at 80 on my cpu and motherboard idk what to do
my cpu is idle at 50+ until i use ryzen master and turn my voltage down to 1.25ish and it drops to the 30s and 40s
any idea why? i have the Asus x470 prime pro and a ryzen 7 5800x. re did my thermal paste 3 times because it was overheating
I am trying to undervolt a 13700k on a z690 proart by asus. the BIOS is different :( anybody has any links or advices ? thanks
D.O.C.P seems to screw with my linux system. I don't know why, but disabling it seems to fix a lot of problems I was having.
Linux Distro Pop OS! (Ubuntu 21.04)
Pode me dizer onde fica esta opção nesta placa ?
dynamic vcore soc ?
obg
Great little tutorial.I'm getting that board and chip your using.Have you considered using a beefier cooler, Like a Noctua D-15.
Probably not gonna bother with a higher end cooler because the 3700x is just a 60W chip and the X570 has good enough VRM to handle the 3700x even when it gets hot. I felt my idle temp was too warm but after I posted this video I was able to get my idle temp down to the mid thirties (about a 6degC drop) by following this tutorial and shutting off background services. ua-cam.com/video/AiL4E56t8YI/v-deo.html
@@capslockculture6223So the 3700x is a very sweet cpu on the right motherboard.Another thought,I'm getting a Phantek P510 for a future build.Thinking of waiting for the 4000 series to hit the market, and seeing if the x3950's drop in price.Throw in 32gigs of 3600 MHz 🐏 and a decent video card.
How can I restore the values? I want my PC to go back to it's natural CPU frequency I selected the wizard just to try but I found out there was a popping sound that is getting annoying, so I thought I should get this to normal to see if it's causing the problem, how do I do that?
I HAVE asus crosshair vi extreme and i put manual volt on 3700x 1.28750 on 4.45ghz and my score on r20 is 5437 with 16gb 3600ghz ram.i close all the auto overclock.
Nice I'll check it out thank you
My core speed doesnt go more than 3599mhz and in your video you reach 4300mhz can you help me? 🤔
is this VDDCR cpu voltage the vcore voltage?
Hey I’m here to thank u for helping… I was trying to undervolt using offset cpu , but just didn’t realize how to change value, what was my surprise when I saw that bar “auto” under - signal, that was just under my nose all the time LOL
Appreciate your guidance, I was looking to set my mboard voltage (TUF BM-450 PLUS II) to a máximum peak of 1.36 V. Since on Ryzen Master shows that the EDC is running at 99% (90A, Limit 255A) when executing some games like warzone, is this normal? I´ve tried to solve this changing the windows energy mode but it doesn´t change at all when running games. PSDT: My temps are going low from 37°c on rest to 65° while playing or editing. Also I´ve found that the EDC at 99% its a normal behavior on Ryzen cpu´s. Thanks for the info anyways.
Hey, you can increase the edc limit, i have the same motherboad, you should go to ai tweaker, precision boost overdrive and there are limits there. I have ryzen 5600 and my sweet spot is ppt 75 edc 105 and tdc 70. If i increase more, i get much more temperature than i get performance, so no point increasing. Cinebench r23 score 11000 and thermals about 60c. If you want more performance at the cost of heat, increase ppt limit to like 100 and edc to like 115.
Thank you dude!
Hi, I have the same processor and motherboard. I would like to keep it stable at 4.3ghz and with a voltage below 1.35. it will be used for the server and will be connected for 24/7 with an average CPU usage of 70% daily. Can I follow your tutorial for what I want?
Hi! I've only been able to hold a stable 4.3 frequency in the CPU using the Ryzen Master software. But I have gotten it to hold stable at 4.3ghz. Although given the additional heat caused by forcing the cores up to that frequency you might reach thermal throttling limits depending on what you are doing. Most of what I do in my tutorial is show you how to open up the headroom so the CPU is able to access the extra power if it wants it for any given task...like exporting video. With the negative offset to my CPU voltage it keeps the chip much cooler and runs just a little slower....which I'm fine with given that some of the benchmarks I ran with brought a lot closer to the 95C shutdown the CPU has built in. I did not modify the thermal limit in the BiOS. Good luck and if you remember let me know how it's going. I can do a tutorial on a 4.3 static frequency with this chip if it'd help but I would just use ryzen master software for that!
I would keep an eye on your thermals under load. Getting to 4.3ghz would require the addition of voltage and current to the chip and RAM which will create heat. BUT! A colder chip can handle more current and voltage than a warm one! 'Gamers Nexus' has videos about this and so does Buildzoid on his channel 'actual hardcore overclocking'. A water cooling system may need necessary to hold the thermals down under load...or you may just thermal throttle away any gains you might have made from overclocking the chip. Sorry for the long explanations! :)
when you could leave it on the stock overclocking and it will up itself to 4.4 when it needs overclocking a CPU is almost dead in 2020
Tenho exatamente essa placa mãe e esse processador, salvou o dia.
I have the same setup as you and when I tried this the PC didn't load. It came back on and said it POSTED in safe mode due to the previous attempt failing because of system instability.
I got it to work by reducing the amount in the ram category.
I over clocked my ryzen 7 3700x and now i cant get it to downclock at
idle.. Amd cool and quiet doesnt exist in my TUF X570 plus wifi board.
I changed my power plan in windows to 5% minimum on the cpu but it
still sits @ 4.3ghz even @ idle. Anyone have any ideas?
Tried resetting the BIOS? Beyond that: Do you have Ryzen Master? I'm curious to know if your cores are actually throttling and how much. Also what temps are your working with at idle 4.3 ghz? The video on this page is showing how to undervolt not overclock but overclocking on the X570 can be rough because of the VRMs (voltage regulation modules).
Is it possible to cap my cpu voltage to not exceed 1.4?
Unfortunately for me mine doesn’t boot or go into bios. Used your settings have the same board and cpu with 1080ti
Short the CMOS
Remove CMOS Battery and put in again
I fixed mine at 1.35 v and 4.3ghz and it hits around 5095/5150 ish . 👍👍👍
Same here, running mine stable at 4.3ghz, but fixed at 1.25v
What are the ppt/edc/tdc values for?
Those are values for current (in amps). For instance TDC (thermal-design current) is the max amount of current the motherboard will allow the CPU to use. So if you want your CPU to draw more power to attain a higher frequency then these are good to raise some. These will increase your thermals too, of course, so when you raise these values to allow more overhead for your CPU you must keep on eye on the CPU temp. But on my rig I had more temperature difference from adjusting the load-line calibration than I did the current values from the PPT/EDC or TDC.
How to open bios like this
Please tell me
When you start your computer press delete as quickly as you can. Thats how I did mine.
Question- when in precision boost overdrive, changing to manual doesn't let me adjust any of the limits. Is it because I have the prime x570 pro? Not the tuff gaming?
Hmm...the ASUS bios is similar for most modern MBs. I'm not sure why you can't adjust those settings. I would say if updating your bios to the latest version (if you haven't already) doesn't work and allow you to change those setting I would contact ASUS customer service and ask them about it. Can you adjust other settings outside of the PBO?
Same here, did you fix it?
You have to type in the limits.
You really dont wanna go too low on the voltage. Give it a little headroom for transients.
Any idea on how to make the temps go lower ?
Tried this with a 3800xt on a B350. No luck booting
Hello I have the same board but after I start the pc I have this dram light on and no signal to the monitor ? What seems to problem is beyond me please help my first pc build
I re installed my two gskills trident neo rams and still light is on i tried to start the pc without any ram and light is still on
Also the rgb are not working in rams 😕
Whats your setup? You have an ASUS x570 tug gaming MB, what is you CPU and GPU (include a 3rd party like gigabyte if they altered the card)? Also, whats the MHZ speed of your RAM and clock speeds if you have it? I would get the DRAM post light pretty much only when I was trying to overclock the RAM. My typical problem was not giving it enough voltage which would activate the RAM light on my motherboard while it was trying to post. Other questions: 1) does your computer post right now? 2) can you get into the bios and see anything or is the monitor unable to provide a picture?
@@zomberkay asus tuf x570 board has a checklist of rams that works flawlessly with. What is you mobo bios version?
Man........ I don't own the same model but I own the Asus TUF Gaming B550M Plus with pair of 16GB 3600 RAM. For the love of life I was trying for days with this whole timing thing and getting now where. I followed your steps and Bam I got the board to recognize at 3600 speed. I just hope I don't break anything with all the voltage changes you did on my B550.
Nice! Keep an eye on your temps because a high voltage will manifest itself as higher temperatures. But I've found the alterations in the PBO settings don't affect temperature that much. But I would say that my method of opening up the potential voltage/current that a chip can pull to accomplish a task is far safer and more efficient than just setting the voltage for your CPU at 1.4 or higher BUT I will say this...one of my cinebench runs I did set my CPU voltage to 1.4 and locked all the cores at 4.3Ghz. I posted a cinebench score of 5186 which is almost 300 above the method I use daily with unlocked cores. The temperature only reached 79C even with all cores locked to 4.3 and the CPU voltage put up to 1.4. So that's a safe setup as far as I can tell. However, I don't use that setup because its a huge waste of energy to have your MB juiced all the time. The negative offset gets you solid performance with VERY efficient energy use of the chip.
I would add that since you are messing with timings that upping your load-line current can increase stability with memory clocking. Just try starting at a lower setting for the LLC before going up. Those settings are capable of increasing heat as well.
Should I always set the same negative offset for the SOC as I have for the CPU?
Basically, the higher the Offset you can reach the better the temps, the better temps makes for better boost clocks.
Hey, what PSU do you have installed with this set up?
er...uh...the RM1000x. Not my first choice but when I assembled this computer (running the 3700x with the x570 motherboard) there was a run on PSU's so thats what I ended up with. Way too much power...I imagine the fan will never even turn on in the entire use of the computer...unless those new 30xx series video cards from Nvidia draw a whole lot of power...
Hi question, my Ryzen 5 3600 current frequency is 3.95 Ghz. Recently it's 3.59 Ghz. How would I go back to normal base speed. The manual says it's base speed is 3.6 Ghz. Please help me
Hi Joseph, I just use Ryzen Master when I want to change (increase) the operating frequency of my CPU. In this video I just show you how to open up the power limits to allow these new ryzen gen 3 CPUs to draw the power they need/want when under load - which actually naturally rises their frequencies to accomplish workloads but in a more effecient manner than just clocking it at the highest frequency possible. For my method the trade is this : way better effiency (I estimate 25% or more for my setup) and lower core temps (about -10c lower in most benchmarks I run going more than 10 min) in exchange for a relatively small (6-10%) decrease in performance. But when I want that extra performance maxed out!?: I just use Ryzen Master and try not to think about it rather than methodically messing with the voltage and RAM timings.
Capslock. Hi we have the same motherboard. But only 2 of the RAM slots are working (3rd and 4th). I know it's not the RAM modules because it posts when seated at those 2 slots, but when moved to slots 1 and 2, the LED post indicator stays orange and nothing happens on the monitor. I have already updated the BIOS to the latest release (8/17/2020) ver. 2607. I just want to know if there is something I can "tweak" to make this work before considering the possibility that the motherboard is faulty. I built this system in October of last year (2019).
Hmm..if you have the ASUS X570 tuf gaming like mine the RAM slots should be A2 and B2. You might just want to take one RAM mod and slot it in A2 and see if it posts. Then add the other one to the B2 slot. Check yer manual also if you need to! It was chapter 1 section 5 of my manual that described installing the RAM for the X570. Even if the RAM is installed into two slots and your computer POSTS you would still want to have your RAM in the slots that will allow them to run in dual-channel which will speed up your computer. A2 and B2 will give you that. Then if you add to more modules use A1 and B1 I believe is the right order. Let me know how this works out and if you can even get into the BIOS on startup. If we can get to the BIOS we can figure it out! Good luck!
@@capslockculture6223 I did just that. Populated A2 and B2, NO go.....then A1 and B1, still no go. Only works with B1 and B2 slots. Weird, really weird. Which means that I am not getting dual channel function. I have emailed Asus about this and I am waiting for their response. THanks for your attention though, I really appreciate it.
@@KMacFNP Hey mate, sry to hear that about the MoBo still not functioning properly. Yeah, I'd try to contact ASUS (and check to see if you are still under a warrantee possibly??). I haven't googled your issue yet to see if some other folks have posted a similar problem but I might do that and see what is out there in a while.
@@KMacFNP Hi, My son's pc has exactly the same problem after the first BIOS update, it only reads RAM in B1 and B2. as it was before bios update A2 and B2 now it turns on RAM error led. could you find the solution? I would appreciate.
Hey capslock for some reason i dont have ai overclock tuner for some reason. i have the ASUS x470 tuf motherboard wit ryzen 2700x cpu 1080 gpu, could you tell me why i dont have that setting option ?
Most bizarre. I believe the X470 does have a measure for recognizing the DDR4 although I'm surprised it's not called AI overclock tuner on yours. If you can upload a screenshot of the advanced bios selections it would help. Otherwise ya gotta start with a BIOS update and flash your drive with the most current BIOS version if it's not on there already.
@@capslockculture6223 can we talk on discord ? , do you think i should update my motherboard bios or ?
please make a video of undervolting ryzen 5 3600
Have you had any issues with the VGA light indicator on the motherboard? My PC boots just fine, but the VGA light has come on sometimes and stayed on after boot. I get video just fine and no other issues than that. I've contacted ASUS about it and I'm waiting on the technicians to look into it.
No, I have not had that problem. How interesting. I wish I could point you in the right direction on that but it could be anything from a bios update to a crossed wire. I hope you hear back form ASUS soon on that!
this also happens to me, when I turn on the pc with the monitor off, the led stays on, but everything works normally
you need to disable the precision boost
i watched a video from jays2cents don't get me wrong man i'm not trying to detract from your video i appreciate the run through the bios. he said we should set
cpu core voltage - 1.3v
cpu soc voltage - 1.2v
dram voltage - 1.35v which is standerd for clocking ram.
cldo vddg voltage - 1.0v
he claimed asus sets these values wayyy over the stock we should have them set and that these are a base line to start pushing an overclock. Just trying to add to the info man i know he's built an ass ton of pc's so.
with stock settings my 3800x runs at 4.2ghz and sits idle 30-40 degress gaming she pushes up to about 60 but i also have the big boy noctua heatsink
Don't worry, you aren't detracting from my video: it's about undervolting not overclocking. I'll put one out for overclocking that will include how to balance the voltages for a setup like mine but this video is about under-volting for efficiency. No doubt Jay could tune a setup exactly like mine very well. But I havent seen him do it and I like short videos that get to the point and don't ramble off-topic sometimes too.
@@capslockculture6223 yeah I liked how it was short and too the point I hate sifted through a vid to find the info I need so. I did sub though so I'll be checkin those out if you make em.
Excellent video. What cpu cooler are you using?
Very educational. is that the wifi version?
Hola amigo mi inglés es muy malo pero te entendí no se como 😁😁 muchas gracias por compartir tú conocimiento muy claro y preciso con tú explicas gracias saludos desde Colombia
How dis you set your fans?
I just let the 'auto' feature in the ASUS bios set the fan speeds for me. I'm not overclocking really so I didn't feel the need to artificially elevate the fan speeds and I'm happy with the temperature and performance vs. fan noise trade-off. Although, when I do render a long video sometimes I will overclock the system to shorten the rendertime a little. But I let Ryzen master handle the overclock rather than noodle with it in the bios myself. :)
Dude pls don't add music in to your videos. It's so hard to hear what you say. Over that, a great video. Thanks
Thank You Brooo
my ram doesnt show docp so uhhh
Is this still an issue now 10 months later? I don't think you need to under-volt 3000 series CPUs as long as you've updated your BIOS. The whole over-volting thing was more of a bug than a feature.
This video look like it was filmed back 2013 with modern hardware
my cpu is 62 V 😭😭😭
you shouldnt have to do an offset, from my understanding, all you need do is find your FIT voltage and set that as your CPU Voltage, then set a CPU Load-line to keep it from fluctuating ua-cam.com/video/05gOLKjMU90/v-deo.html
That would not allow the CPU to downclock on idle... A fixed voltage is a waste of power and an increased heat even during idle.
Offset + Less Vdroop LLC Profile is the best way to undervolt. That allows a global negative offset on the VID curve, while keeping things stable under load thanks to the less Vdroop from the LLC Profile.
Easiest way to understand power your CPU but leave your GPU without anything complicated is to go under power options under processing state and change all the maximum to 50% as under games under load barely use like 20-30% of your CPU and just adjust it when you get any slow downs when normally using your PC my CPU temps went from 96 C to only 50 C and games run even better now as no thermal throttling and then can even overclock your GPU
is this work for ryzen 9 3900x?
if it's on an ASUS X570 motherboard it should.
@@capslockculture6223 i do same for ram like u and
Global C-state Control = Enabled
Power Supply Idle Control = Low Current Idle
CPPC = Enabled
CPPC Preferred Cores = Enabled
PBO i dont touch auto means off
i get stable temp no load around 40 and on testing 75 max
with dark rock pro 4 cooler and close pc case i dont have air condition in my room...
This help me a lot in setting a negative CPU offset for my ryzen 3600. Couldn't figure out which setting changed only that until I saw this vid.
Now my CPU is running around 5 degrees Celsius cooler at full load with a negative offset of 0.05. Multi core performance is only down 12 points in cinebench R20 from 3610 to 3598 :)
Might push it to minus 0.10. It did reduce my brother's ryzen 5800x r20 score by 400 points but I think it doesn't affect ryzen 3000 CPUs as much?
This vid also helped me with my ram. It was being knee capped at 2133 mhz. Now it's at 3600 mhz :)
hi did you enable PBO in the settings?
Make the same video but in ryzen5 3600
I just ran my amd 7 3700x and I got a 12k score idk how but I did lol
Probably using cinebench r15
dont have ai tweakers
;;;
Can just give you better performance with gaming
Muito Bom!!!!!!
My PC won't boot into windows now.
what does it boot into? LINUX? Or is it not posting? What is every component of your system? Bet I can fix it.
CAPSLOCK Culture I fixed it. Somehow my C drive got corrupted but luckily I built a PC for my mom. I migrated windows 10 (the OS I was using) to on of my SSDs and it solved the problem. I even recovered my data and got my system overclocked using Ryzen master.
Use dvi input