Like the look of the new toggles! Those are slick. So I read that half of a Tensa4 can hold the head end of a hammock if the foot end is tied to a tree (ex: 2 hammocks, 1 central tree, each using half of a Tensa4). I think this and any other non-conventional setups would make for good videos.
So I just stumbled on your amazing stuff as I'm looking for an indoor bed alternative. The Tensa4 looks amazing but I'm concerned about the tension on the guyline. The guyline is supposed to hold the weight of the stand AND the person in it, right? What are suggested places where I could attach the Tensa4 in a bedroom where I can't nail something on the wall - and not have to worry about it collapsing during the night?
Martin Froger The guyline tension is a lot lower than many people think, an order of magnitude below what’s required to support a hammock directly. It varies between Zero (at the tipping point) and up to around half of body weight. The amount of tilt of the stand and how far headward of the baseline your center of gravity falls determines the load. You can think of the stand as a traditional fulcrum scale. The stand structure bears the great majority of the weight. The guyline just keeps it from tipping over. Hold a broom upside down, straight up. Zero load. The more you lean it, the heavier it feels, but it’s always less than the whole weight. Suitable indoor anchors include main door or fixed cabinet hinge pins, HVAC registers or radiators, handrails, door stoppers, items tied and shut behind latching doors or sliding windows, or just heavy furniture. Tie to bedframe, then set up stand on bed... Worst case: a small screw hook driven into baseboard or flooring, ideally under carpet or into existing crack or flaw so it leaves no mark.
OldPackMule The worst case is about 13lbs. You can come close to 10lbs sticking with UCRs instead of webbing and carabiners, omitting the ridgeline (assuming your hammock has one), omitting the head end anchor and guyline (tarp guys or counterweight substitute). You can also remove all 4 rubber feet at the apexes. In certain soft ground conditions, you can omit baseline and ground feet as well. And leave the bag home. The first functional prototype in carbon fiber was 4lbs. It had an unknown but much lower capacity, packed larger, was very expensive, and wasn’t tough. Meanwhile that’s still too heavy to appeal to an ultralight backpacker. 10 or 13lbs seem almost equally unattractive to gram counters. Tensa Solo is a much lighter variant that can appeal to thru-hikers. It uses 4 segments of the 28 used in Tensa4. Does have stronger ground anchoring requirements. Gotta make that video...
Not a bad design. I didn't need a portable one so I just made one out of $15 worth of lumber and a little paracord for my yard. I used 8 foot long 2x3x8's and it feels just a touch too small for my 12 foot long hammock. What size are the tensa4 poles when fully extended?
would have been nice to see what you were doing close up with your hands instead of the wide angle and blocked by gear. this guide and the paper instructions are horrible for me. both are more of a refresher after you have put it up a few times. I seriously had to stop and drink a few beers before searching for another assembly video. no hate, just relaying my experience. ✌️🤟
alorr4uz Ouch, but that’s fair. This video needs updating to match latest print documentation anyway. As soon as we catch breath, perhaps it’s time to hire pro help. Composing inquiry now...
@@tensacrew I managed to get it up, a 6 pack later. don't know if it's right but seems stable.. lol. have it up right now with my ridgerunner and superfly. thx again love the stand.
alorr4uz Ridgerunner and other bridges are a special case. On our list! As i guess you’ve figured, setting the base super narrow like 3-4’ so the poles are under the spreaders does it. And let the ridgeline run very wide, connecting as close to the triangles coming off the spreaders as possible, i.e. no suspension. Enjoy your beer and stand!
Thanks Todd. I ordered my Tensa4 today. I'm glad you emailed me back on a Saturday. That sealed the deal.
You guys have the coolest hammock stand out there. Definitely saving up for one of these.!
Like the look of the new toggles! Those are slick.
So I read that half of a Tensa4 can hold the head end of a hammock if the foot end is tied to a tree (ex: 2 hammocks, 1 central tree, each using half of a Tensa4). I think this and any other non-conventional setups would make for good videos.
I really need a video showing how to split one stand to hang two hammocks from one tree.
Damn that thing is cool. Definitely wanna get one of these
Damn. Just look at all those trees behind you. Smh. Should've filmed this in a desert...
So I just stumbled on your amazing stuff as I'm looking for an indoor bed alternative. The Tensa4 looks amazing but I'm concerned about the tension on the guyline. The guyline is supposed to hold the weight of the stand AND the person in it, right? What are suggested places where I could attach the Tensa4 in a bedroom where I can't nail something on the wall - and not have to worry about it collapsing during the night?
Martin Froger The guyline tension is a lot lower than many people think, an order of magnitude below what’s required to support a hammock directly. It varies between Zero (at the tipping point) and up to around half of body weight. The amount of tilt of the stand and how far headward of the baseline your center of gravity falls determines the load. You can think of the stand as a traditional fulcrum scale. The stand structure bears the great majority of the weight. The guyline just keeps it from tipping over. Hold a broom upside down, straight up. Zero load. The more you lean it, the heavier it feels, but it’s always less than the whole weight.
Suitable indoor anchors include main door or fixed cabinet hinge pins, HVAC registers or radiators, handrails, door stoppers, items tied and shut behind latching doors or sliding windows, or just heavy furniture. Tie to bedframe, then set up stand on bed... Worst case: a small screw hook driven into baseboard or flooring, ideally under carpet or into existing crack or flaw so it leaves no mark.
That makes a lot of sense, thanks!
Excellent overview of the setup and new parts. What is the minimum weight with all guy lines and parts?
OldPackMule The worst case is about 13lbs. You can come close to 10lbs sticking with UCRs instead of webbing and carabiners, omitting the ridgeline (assuming your hammock has one), omitting the head end anchor and guyline (tarp guys or counterweight substitute). You can also remove all 4 rubber feet at the apexes. In certain soft ground conditions, you can omit baseline and ground feet as well. And leave the bag home.
The first functional prototype in carbon fiber was 4lbs. It had an unknown but much lower capacity, packed larger, was very expensive, and wasn’t tough. Meanwhile that’s still too heavy to appeal to an ultralight backpacker. 10 or 13lbs seem almost equally unattractive to gram counters.
Tensa Solo is a much lighter variant that can appeal to thru-hikers. It uses 4 segments of the 28 used in Tensa4. Does have stronger ground anchoring requirements. Gotta make that video...
Tensa crew yes, please make that video ☺️
Thank you for sharing! Is it a loco libre UQ?
It’s a BoneFire Gear Whisper insulated hammock. I love it: bonefiregear.com/. About 900g complete with bugnet, double layer, good to 0ºC.
Tensa crew thank you sir!
I know this is an older video, or maybe I’m just late to the game. I was wondering how this would work with a Haven XL or the Amok Draumr?
It works fine with both, without incident. There are photos of both on the product page on our site.
Not a bad design. I didn't need a portable one so I just made one out of $15 worth of lumber and a little paracord for my yard. I used 8 foot long 2x3x8's and it feels just a touch too small for my 12 foot long hammock. What size are the tensa4 poles when fully extended?
100". Connections are now in the feet just beyond the pole ends, so effective length is a hair longer, no length lost to inset connections.
@@cleverchimp thanks for the reply. I'll have to find some slightly longer lumber =)
What is the maximum weight that this can support?
We warrant to 350lbs.
would have been nice to see what you were doing close up with your hands instead of the wide angle and blocked by gear. this guide and the paper instructions are horrible for me. both are more of a refresher after you have put it up a few times. I seriously had to stop and drink a few beers before searching for another assembly video. no hate, just relaying my experience. ✌️🤟
alorr4uz Ouch, but that’s fair. This video needs updating to match latest print documentation anyway. As soon as we catch breath, perhaps it’s time to hire pro help. Composing inquiry now...
@@tensacrew I managed to get it up, a 6 pack later. don't know if it's right but seems stable.. lol. have it up right now with my ridgerunner and superfly. thx again love the stand.
alorr4uz Ridgerunner and other bridges are a special case. On our list! As i guess you’ve figured, setting the base super narrow like 3-4’ so the poles are under the spreaders does it. And let the ridgeline run very wide, connecting as close to the triangles coming off the spreaders as possible, i.e. no suspension. Enjoy your beer and stand!