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SodaStream REFILL - the right way
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2016
- How to refill SodaStream CO2 Bottles the right way to get beverage grade results. Stay away from paintball tanks, read the warning on paintball tanks. This is the healthy way to maximize your Soda Maker. I left out some details, fill 60L tanks to 1095 grams.
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Thanks for taking the time to produce this excellent video. It has helped give me the courage to buy the big CO2 tank and adapter and save myself a lot of cash over the coming years.
who tf told you flipping the tank upside down instead of using a siphon tank was "the right way"? This is a great way to break your valve and cause catastrophic situations.
You can over fill, I got one of my tanks to over 1300g and put it in my sodastream, and about an hr later that protective seal where that bolt is screwed into the side of your tank just below the threads blew. And it then becomes unusable and you'll have to either do an exchange or buy a new bottle. After that I've been filling mine to a max of 1150. Hope that helps ya.
Were you using a siphon-tube donor tank? I have a regular tank that I invert at 45 degrees, and there is no way I can ever fill up the sodastream cylinder with more than 790 grams of CO2.
When I first started, I was obsessed with safety, making sure that I didn't overfill the 0.6L cylinder. After a bit more experience and research, I realized that the pressure between the donor tank and the 0.6 L cylinder should equalize, removing any risk of overfilling.
yeah, you didn't mention how you filled it... it couldn't have been from a normal tank to bottle transfer
@@chumooskie5527 Yes it was from a normal tank, just a bigger one. I used a 50lb tank. And the tank size shouldnt matter.
Co2 tanks are only supose to fill to 65% there has to be head room in each tank, if it is a 14 oz tank, hats 14 oz's of CO2 and them a head space above that
This can be mitigated somewhat by using your soda stream immediately after filling, before the tank has a chance to warm up to room temperature.
What hose adapter are you using?
This is the best video on this subject, even with those pants and socks.
This is the kind of guy you want to have a beer with leaning over a hot bbq in august.
Thanks for the video. As soon as I saw the tank upside down I knew what I was doing wrong!
upside down tanks are dangerous.
Thanks, I have not had luck getting more than a small amount of gas out of the Sodastream bottle after filling. Questions. I believe my 5lb. C02 tank does NOT have a Siphon tube, and I have tried this process holding the tank both upside down and right side up. No luck. Finally, the C02 tank I have hasn't been touched in 3 years, although it's full. Could this be the culprit? Thanks in advance.
Very informative. Love it!
Thanks. Great job on the video.
Thank You for this video. I was planning on doing this and wanted to make sure it was safe to do. There are mod adapters that connect directly to the SodaStream. do you advise?
The most informed - and informative - video on this topic that I have found. Well done, and thanks.
My tank needs to be turned upside down...but the top of it is just the off/on valve...there's nothing above that to rest it on. Do you know if they sell that piece?
I finally got around to having a dip tube installed in my 20LBS donor tank. However, now I seem to get fewer grams of CO2 on each refill, about 200 grams fewer. Now I need to try inverting my syphon-tube tank, exactly what I was trying to avoid, to see if I get better results.
Hey, thanks for the video. I have the tank with syphon tube not sure what that connecting hose is called? Any one care to share please?
Isn't it called CO2 Adapter?
@@esportsnesiatv5736 i dont know... Its it? Up search for that. Thanks 🙏
Do you know anyone in Honolulu that works in the soda industry? I've spent way too much refilling these.
this video was worth it just for the health risk information alone....ty
I've been using three 20 oz paintball tanks for over 5 years. I use a hanging scale and buy 22 lb siphon tanks for about $22 every from General Air every six months. All you need is the brass SS adaptor for the paintball tanks...then a two valve line to fill the tanks from the big tank..using hanging scale for 20oz...great setup.
And you haven't got to answer yet? Lol!
i got the same setup but with the dip tube . didn't work on first try there some kind of valve that closes inside the sodastream top/ after a few tries ?? . it think because the ss tank was completely empty and i tried to fill too fast , when i got a few lbs gas in the ss tank and dump some to chill it worked better .
ther's some kind of safety or anti fill thingy in there but if you slowly open co2 tank valve it won't actuate
Good guess. That's because of the safety valve. You need to open the main valve in the source (big) tank veeeery slowly. Filling takes up to 30sec.
I'm curious as to how much CO2 you can actually fit into the small canisters. I have the large 130l (33oz) canisters and have only been able to fill them with 16-20 oz of CO2.
tanks fill to 655 THATS WHATS SAFE SO A 1 LB TANK CAN TAKE ABOT 20OZ'S, BUT THATS VERY DANGOROUS.
A bit of warm water poured over the
donor tank helps it across but may risk an over fill.
Thank you for making the video BUT YOU CAN INDEED OVERFILL A CO2 BOTTLE! A full c02 cylinder is a lot less than 100%. A c02 bottle that is overfull is dangerous. Please weigh the bottles and do not leave them overfilled beyond design spec
You can always sell the bigger cylinder when/if you change your mind. They hold their value quiet well.
What we need is a couple people like this in each city, to have a better refill system that's just more affordable for the public.
Great video! Added a 👍. I have a question I'm hoping you might be able to shed some light on....
I already have co2 tanks on hand.....medical grade....and I will be using the sodastream original bottles so no concern there, BUT after ordering what looks like the exact same refill adapter you're using in your video, which I just received from Amazon, there's no indication at all that the chinese manufacturer used lead free brass in any of the components. Thoughts?
I would totally trust in the Chinese. What have they ever done to make you not trust them?
Thank you sir
how many refills would you get out of the big tank aprox?
Greg M 6kg/400g=15 refills
The prop 65 warning is on literally everything. It did exactly opposite of what it was intended to do.
It's on the front door to my bank and the front door of Walmart. Are we supposed to hold up in our houses forever??
Lead free brass is used in sodastream tanks. Google lead free brass. Paintball tanks use regular brass, not to mention the actual tanks are black inside. Open a Sodastream tank and a paintball tank and look inside. Sodastream tanks are lead free and look like a mirror inside.
This is very dangerous to put the bottle upside down on a chair. It nearly tipped twice.
Screw this thing to the wall upside down.
I was thinking the same, these tanks weigh over 20kg (40lbs} when full. Putting it on a flimsy $2 stool is asking for trouble.
Frank No joke! My jaw is hanging open, just waiting for the Looney Tunes-esque catastrophe to ensue.
We followed this exactly, and no matter what, the weight simply won't go up. Would that mean our adapter is faulty?
Put your cannister in a -20c/-4F freezer before the transfer. If the cannister is warmer, the CO2 cannister gasifies and you can't get more liquid in due to pressure imbalance.
Your adapter also needs to depress the valve, and you can't release the pressure too quickly.
Most recent Sodastream bottle come with a one way valve... easy enough to 'fix'
i 100% trust this guy
When you talk about the weight of the tank when filled with C02, is that weight including the sodastream cartridge total or are you setting the tare weight to zero when the bottle is empty on the scale before you fill?
Tare
In addition to encouraging the use of a 5-10lb Co2 tank, I suggest you forget the idea of refilling those pathetic little Co2 bottles, which are less than 1/6 of the volume of a 5lb tank. The adapter that runs from the Sodastream to the larger Co2 tank is comparably priced to the one Harry is using here, with only a slight design difference allowing for the direct connection to the Sodastream (see Amazon). I also suggest that you purchase your 5-10lb Co2 tanks directly from your local welding / industrial gas supply company, which is where home brew suppliers get them. Save some money and cut out the middle man.
How do you tell if it has a siphon tube?
My 20# has a red ring around the tank valve - Airgas tank
Complete ...agree
Put some silicon spray on the seals before screwing up shouldn't leak.
U no mention parts fittings hoses...
Actually, the reason you get more CO2 in be releaving some pressure is not because the gas is in the way... It's because degazing CO2 cools down the cylinder, facilitating more CO2 to transition from gaz to liquid phase.
You are correct, I took the short version:)
My understanding is that you're supposed to refrigerate / freeze the SodaStream bottle before refilling.
lol...the best way is to go to your local grocery store and buy dry ice, put it in a towel and hit it with a hammer, take the valve off your empty sodastream canister,insert funnel, place it on a food scale or postal scale and add dry ice to the proper weight and then screw valve back on.When the tank has no more frost on the outside put it back into the dispenser as directed. this will cost about $1.25
my dry ice store in NJ also sells it in 1/2 inch by 2 inch tube shapes. No crushing needed!
Dry ice in GROCERY STORES ?
Your home freezer works, just feeze the tank.
@jimboStar can you tell me which dry ice store this is that has the 1/2 tubes? I'm in Jersey too but having a hard time finding dry ice. Thanks
Harry, you filled my tanks about 1 year ago, but I lost your contact information (phone #). I still have your address, but would like to know if you still fill these tank for a fee so I can send you the tanks?
I do still refill check you tank, might have my phone number on a label :)
I jumped the gun on ordering my 20 LBS donor tank and had not realized that the tank would need a siphon tube for my expected use. I don't mind securing the regular donor tank upside down for refilling. However, I am wondering if inverting the tank will be less efficient than using a tank with a siphon tube, resulting in more wasted CO2.
I also remember someone at my gas refilling company asking me if I will be refilling liquid CO2 or gas CO2. I didn't know there was a difference.
@DA LegoFyre! T. Thanks for your reply. It's been a little over a year, and the donor tank is about 4 kg away from needing to be refilled. I have a new valve that will take a siphon tube. When I refill next time, I will have the gas company install the new valve with a siphon tube. I have been inverting only at a 45 degree angle when refilling the 0.6 liter cylinders. This method seems regularly to do a refill of a maximum of about 790 grams of C02.
Get a bottle with a siphon tube that is made to dispense liquid CO2 upright.
Our Airgas says they don’t carry them (with siphon tubes). 😔
@@sancop I bought the bottle with siphon on Amazon and I have Airgas fill it (takes a day).
You don't need to put the cylinder on a chair. The liquid is under pressure and therefore will flow regardless, as long as it's upside down.
Use a fan and crack the doors. OSHA warns against exposure to CO2.Thanks for making the video.
And then we drink it
I just did this and only put 6oz in, from a 5lb donor tank.. Wish there was more put in but it'll do the trick - beats paying soooo much more..
The yellow what?!?!?!?!
The only one exlained about putting tank upside down, but how to support the tank is a dilema
It balances on the handle (that protects the valve) well. Just don't knock it over.
Strap it to a chair.
Go
"Yo"
I coulda swore that CO2 was a gas.. not a liquid
At atmospheric pressure it exists as solid or gas. Under pressure it can exist in all 3 states. Check out a co2 phase diagram it’s fascinating
@@MrDschubba hmm thanks man 👍🏻 i did not know that
Rookie
The dip tube, limits what you can use your tank for, and add cost and are not needed. The booby trapped valve is the flat valve, and is harder to fill then the pin type valve. I will say, as I now sell refilled bottles and sell them on Amazon, 20% fee, and eBay, 10% fee, that the cost of the equipment, and the time I put in was not worth my time. I moved on to other CO2 adventures in addition to Sodastream. For people with questions contact me through Atlanta Craigslist, just search for CO2, you can't miss finding me.
To anyone thinking Sodastream is overcharging for their bottles, I can tell you without a doubt they are not. They use "FOOD GRADE" tanks, that inside are like a mirror, open one up to see, UPS fees are very expensive, and retailers make a profit on every tank they sell. So when you add up ALL the cost, Sodastream is a good deal for the customer.
If you are using paintball tanks, when the next one empties out remove the valve and look inside, the tanks are not clean.
It takes a long time to pay for the equipment, think about it. co2doctor.com is the place to buy supplies if you still want to.
Thank you for your honesty and common sense.
How many fills are you getting. I bought a 20 lb tank with dip tube and got 16 full fills, 17th fill is only about 1/3 full. I think I am getting low on co2 liquid. Just wondering what other fillers are getting
petec1972 ....hmmm. 17.3x15.99+tx= ~$295 for me. Now, obviously, since the only place I can exchange is Bed, Bath, & Beyond, I can use a 20% off coupon. But considering each trip is 90 miles round trip (ga$), I figure I’m breaking even on coupons. So, I just purchased my first 20 lb tank today, bought my adapter line last week, and after I recover from those purchases (47+187), exchange/refills are only $33 through Airgas. I’m saving about $262 per 17.3 sodastream tanks (that’s a savings of $15.14 per tank)!!!!!!! So based on your fill rate, I’m going to be paying less than $1 per sodastream tank, and no roundtrip!!!! Best think is no running out!!!!
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just purchase a regulator. I'm a retired executive chef .been working with co2 for 40 years. believe me, this is dangerouus and the wrong way of doing this procedure. break the cap off and see what happen.
What a load of crap
These cylinders are not filled with CO2 in liquid form, you don't need to tip the tank upside down. If it was filled with liquid, there would be so much frost on the side of the tank and it would eventually boil off to a gas.
Yes they are
Shake the tank
NOPE! They do not fill those tanks with liquid CO2 - if they did then they would be a block of ice on the bottom. They're filled to 3000-5000 psi with gas. Flipping the tank over just makes you look silly
Once C02 hits 1000 PSI at room temperature, it's going turn into a liquid. Phase change man. www.achrnews.com/NEWS/2004/04/Files/Images/98249.jpg
You are wrong. You HAVE to turn it upside down if you don’t have a siphon. You can take my word for it because I tried
This is NOT the right way to fill co2 tanks. Upside down tanks are not safe. you can absolutely take this video down.
Well that’s EXACTLY what Airgas told me to do, And I’m using their tank
@@sancop Maybe the person at Airgas did not understand. But feeling CO2 tanks upside down is absolutely not safe. A little bit of research will let you know , I’m not trying to hassle you I’m trying to help you. A few things happen. You get the dirt out of the bottom of the tank. And you could flash fill the tank that you’re feeling and it could over pressurize to the point where the first disc can’t let all of the pressure out fast enough. A lot of people do this and there are some UA-cam videos showing it that I’ve actually been taken down. Again, I’m just trying to help. I am a certified CO2 trans filler. And a C3 certified air Smith. I’m not sure the sales person at your air place nose as much as they should to be providing recommendations like this
@@londonpaintball dirt in the tank??
@@londonpaintball so if there is no siphon tube can you still fill other tanks from it?
@@patf03 there is all kinds of crap in the bottoms of these tanks.