I heard a similar account of the pilot crashing into the ground. The plane opened fire on the train, but, being miniature, he thought it further away then it was. By the time he realised how close to the ground he was (& how small the train was) his propeller was practically mowing the grass! Another interesting story from the war, not concerning the RHDR, but actually the Southern Railway, was that of D3 Class No.2365. The German gunner opened up on her, & she didn't take kindly, exploding violently when bullets pierced her dome. The plane consequently crashed. The engine was returned to work.
The LB&SCR D3 didn't explode violently, she merely let out a cloud of blinding steam from her dome. The plane crashed and the pilot drowned. Sorry if I'm a bit pedantic, but exploding violently makes it sound like she had a boiler explosion and not a major steam leak.
@@godzillahomer Hmm, aye, to be fair I ain't read the story for years. I just remember the boiler taking umbrage, as well it may, to being shot. There's a photo of the engine, with half the boiler lagging gone & a distinct bend in the running plate, which my rather leaky memory interpreted as a full on explosion.
Whats even funnier is that the engine was actually entirely credited for the kill so after returning to work, a small symbol was put on the engine showing the earned kill
I travelled on the RHDR a few years back, stopping off at Dungeness to climb the lighthouse.. I glanced down and and saw a train standing in the station. I was disorientated, everything seemed out of proportion and it took a while to adapt. I can certainly believe a fighter pilot became just as confused.
How is it considered a tourism trap? Miniature railways are very useful. Agreed, let's re-armour Hercules and drive her head-on into those idiots' front door.
I wouldn't call it a toy it can still kill you if your not careful and they are not true minitures either as they are built slightly over scale so they are bit more powerful than if they where built to true scale
Tillig makes a switch that takes narrow gauge and standard gauge that merges them into one track, it’s called the tillig diverging dual gauge switch, now you can combine your scales! Edit I’m just saying trainboy should buy it
Speaking of armored trains, have you heard of the Battle of Savage’s Station and it’s claim to fame as the first time a railway battery was used in combat? To summarize the entire affair: After Robert E. Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia, he began an extensive program of building defenses for the city of Richmond. A part of this included the construction of a railway gun to counter the Union’s siege artillery. The project was undertaken by the Confederate Navy, of all groups, and the gun would be manned by men of the confederate navy. The Railway gun consisted of an iron casemate built on top of a railway car (most likely a flatbed car) with sloped armor similar to ironclads of the time. Inside, a 32 pounder Brooke naval rifle was mounted, which was considerably more powerful than most field artillery of the time. During the Seven Days battles, which was Lee’s major counteroffensive against McClellan’s army, the railway gun along with several other cars, which were reinforced with cotton bails as additional armor against small arms fire, were pushed down the Richmond and York River Railroad line towards Savage’s Station - the main base of operations for the Army of the Potomac that acted as a supply depot and a field hospital. General John Magruder’s forces were accompanied by the railway battery up towards the station, but their forces were stalled due to stiff resistance by significantly numerically superior forces, which, with General Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson’s forces being slowed down by the Chickahominy River to the north, meant that the battle ended in a stalemate. However, the Army of the Potomac would abandon Savage’s Station overnight and retreated to the south. The railway line where this all took place is still in service and a number of markers detail the event, though much of the battlefield is covered by I-295 and I-64. As for the railway gun, no one knows what happened to it. It was most likely cannibalized for its valuable iron as well as the 32 pounder gun and most likely was reused for the River battery defenses along the James.
I’ve been to this railway on many occasions, in fact I went on Sunday! It’s a lovely place with lots of interesting little locos. If you ever get the chance to go, you should. The replica of the armoured train hasn’t been scrapped (can confirm, saw it on Sunday), but it is in terrible condition, however it’s made of wood and the railway will most likely rebuild it.
Wow this was amazing. Narrow Gauge Engines maybe my favorite but the miniature gauge Railway always has something very interesting offer. Another Splendid video trainboy.
The RH&DR is amazing especially when you get to Dungeness then you can stick your head out of the window and speed along at 30mph on the flat and if you do go there one day make sure to try out there cheesy chips
The RH&DR is one of my fave Heritage railways. A very long run with beautiful scenic routes. If you ever get over to the UK, I HIGHLY recommend visiting it, alongside the Bluebell Railway
I can partly confirm for Darknut. In fact I was about to comment saying the exact same thing. I vividly remember watching a war program on TV years ago featuring the RH&DR that did indeed claim that three German fighters were shot down by the railway and also told of the "woopsie" of German fighter pilots becoming disorientated and losing track of their altitude and crashing while shooting at the train. This was when I was a kid though so you'd have to go back at least 25 years to find it on BBC. However there are other films that state not a single bullet was ever fired from the train and the films featuring it only show soldiers practicing. I guess it's left to speculation, but I'm with you; It would be awesome to think this little bugger took down some German planes!
I class myself as very lucky. My grandparents moved to the area when I was a kid. On my first visit I ran down their garden full of flowers and greenery, to a little opening right at the end, only to find the train track literally there on the other side of the wire fence. I lost my mind. I spent so many years down there waving to the drivers and passengers as they passed us. This railway will always have a special place in my heart. I'm now 26 and I'll never stop being amazed by how gorgeous the trains are every time I visit.
Yo i live near the RH&DR and it's an awesome lil railway. They have a fucking awesome model railway at one of the stations as well and i have many fond memories from childhood of riding it! Highly recomend the visit :)
ok just imagine _just imagine_ you're a highly trained pilot in what was the most revered and also feared air force in the world flying one of the most advanced planes of the time and you get shot down by a _theme park ride_
You should definitely take a trip to England next year, and visit not just this railway, but all the 15 inch gauge railways in the country. There’s so many of them and you’ll love most if not all of them.
I have been on a train with Hercules, Samson, and Dr Syn as prime movers. Amongst others, I always make time to visit this railway when going to the UK.
These trains are anything but toys and provide a proper timetabled service for the locals. The area is extremely flat and so there are a number of level crossings, unusual now in the UK, and drivers think the trains are toys and can stop. They are so wrong which the often find out.
I have always had a fascination for railways, British ones in particular as I was born in England, but moved with my folks to Australia in 1950. I read about the RH&D as a young fellow in about 1951 or 52, and had a photograph of Laurel and Hardie opening the railway after the war, however later on I found a building and 'place' in Melbourne that sent me on a hunt for more information. The building was "Howey House:" and the lane beside it was "Howey Place." In those days it was quite a laborious task to research the history, but after some years I managed it, and learned of the connection to the RH&D. The Sea Captain, Henry Howey, who, I believe owned a couple of ships trading around the coast of Australia, bought the land at the first land auction in Melbourne in 1837 for £128. He and his wife drowned when the ship (i don't think it was his own) sank near Sydney. The Howey Estate was set up to manage his affairs. A large building was built on the site and the laneway was named. Henry's younger brother inherited the property, and his son became Captain John Edwards Howey, who was the founder of the RH&D railway, using money from his Mebourne assets. So Money from a Melbourne property, invested in England, helped to provide the location for the Pluto pipeline and so aid in the war effort!
In WW2 the RH&DR railway was very much a working line. In addition to Experimental Sound Mirrors on the line , there are several buildiungs that were built , and disgused to house pumping staions for the PLUTO (Pipeline Under The Ocean ) thatr supplied Allied foreces after D- Day. The line was used for logistics to the various point
@TrainBoy Nice video ! I too am quite fashinated about the history of hercules (especially during the war years !). It's a shame really that in reality (so i'm told by someone who's had experience with it) Hercules is not actually that good of a loco, mainly due to the fact of it being quite a poor steamer, but i still think it looks awsome ! Also you'll be happt to know that the replica of armored hercules does still exist ! (although in quite a sorry state) i have pics of it but unfortunately cannot send them trough yt comments.
The boiler shop at Paxman looked pretty much the same in the 1980's apart from a distinct lack of locomotives. I believe all the drawings existed at that time for the RH&D engines. There was a story circulating that an oil sheikh wanted to buy some new ones as a train set for his kids but even he couldn't afford the price they would have cost.
I actually worked at this railway. I was a volunteer for a few times and hope to work there again someday. I don’t live too far from there, in fact my secondary school (high school for you Americans) I used to go to was within the countryside of Hythe, one of the stations. Always remember hearing the steam and diesel’s horns/whistles whilst I was studying there, even my final exams towards the end Lol! Well that’s part of my personal life for ya with this beloved railway! 😁
The RH&DR railway definitely recounts the "aircraft ploughing into the ground" story in their own museum interpretations of the replica armoured train, so that's about as good as we can get.
A local company, 'Armoured Engineering', were building a new metal bodied armour plating before lockdown last year, however I'm unsure of the progress of it now.
I have been to this little railway once. I believe I was on the green one it was a while ago. The passenger car was too small for me and my dad It hurt my back. It was still a fun day
Well, SINCE you made this referencing the narrow gauge engines, I think we can all humbly agree that this is a trailer for things to come. We be seein big narrow gauge engines, real big monsters.
It could be worse, the British built 300 Flower Class corvettes. They were small ships designed to sink German submarines and they were all named after flowers. So a lot of tough U-boats were sunk by ships with names like HMS Daffodil.
It would have been cool if Wilbert Awdry hade one of the miniature engines to of had the backstory of Hercules. But this video was interesting. Love to you trainboy 😀
I was just gonna watch the recommended TOT video then come back here. Instead i'm gonna binge his entire roster of videos first, since they're all short. BRB
As someone who lives in east Kent im very happy to see that so many people care about this small but fascinating railway! wartime defiantly had a massive impact on the southeast of England and the railways were no exception.One of my favourite railways is the old Elham Vally railway who played a small but interesting role during both wars. Along the line there is a place called Bourne Park where there is a small tunnel that for a time was home to a BL 18-inch railway gun hidden between the trees. It was nick named the "Boche Buster" There is not much left to let you know it was even there but the old route still survives like bridges and the old station that is now someones home! But there is one thing! if you look really closely, at the top of the tunnel entrance you can see big marks in the bricks where the barrel of the gun had smacked into the tunnel. Its a largely forgotten part of history but still interesting and important none the less! Heres a link to some information if you would like to learn more.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_18-inch_railway_howitzer
Fun Fact: In 2013 the R&ER had a giant fire in their workshops, which destroyed almost half of their operating fleet. The RHDR leased Hercules and Samson (their number 7) to them, and of they hadn't it might not have survived.
James is my favourite character and I heard the train of thought but I never thought you never heard of it and also greetings from Britain and by the way I subscribed to the train of thought
I want to start a model railroad, but I'm confined to a small fold out table, would I still be able to start a model railroad? You've given me some inspiration on what I would like my model railroad to consist of, but the only thing is I need a starter set, I was thinking a Bachmann Thomas the train set and ask for Percy and some rolling stock and some scenery
Those aircraft you mentioned, are three very widely known planes in the aviation community. The bf 109 was a very famous fighter, as it was the Germans way of trying to combat the p51 mustang and spitfires of the US and Britian. The He111 is a medium bomber capable of carrying up to 1,700 kg worth of bombs. The DO17 is a light bomber that honestly provided more use as a flying pencil than an actual bomber. I have to give these men extreme respect for being able to knock out these aircraft with what they had!
Sorry to split hairs but... the Messerscmitt 109 (aka Me 109, Bf109) was the Luftwaffe's standard fighter for the first two years of the war, primarily against Spitfires and Hurricanes, until the Fw190 came along to keep it company, and it was used throughout the war. The Mustang didn't arrive until January 1942, so calling the 109 the Germans' way of trying to combat it is misleading. The 109's first significant role was in trying to overcome Hurricanes and Spitfires.
@@JTT0509 Thank you, for taking my slightly hairsplitting comment in such good spirit. The He111, by the way, was the principal bomber used by the Luftwaffe during the early years of the war, though I believe the Junkers 88 was rated more highly as its superior speed made it much harder to catch.
Great episode on this very interesting locomotive. I have a somewhat similar locomotive documentary series called Remarks Engines which covers little known locomotives, such as a streamlined Doodlebug and 4-4-0.
Sorry to hear the armoured “snood” as like to call it has been scrapped as I was involved in building it. Our publicity manager of the time managed to obtain genuine weapons. When I was employed on the RHDR I met a man who was an apprentice working at a local engineering works when the original armour was made. He said it was made from old boiler plates from the Railway works at Ashford and pretty well doubled the loco’s weight. There is another 4-8-2 called Samson. Both names being are Greek mythological giants. In 1984 Samson when to a temporary railway at a Garden Festival in Liverpool and I had to modify the bogie and radial to get it round the very tight curves, even so on one bend the inside radial lifted off the rail but the loco never came off. The story about Hercules bringing a plane down is always mentioned but I never found a date or number.
My daughter is obsessed with this line and we ride it quite often. The replica is on a siding, albeit it poor condition. Or at least it was 18 months ago
German officer: My fuhrer our fighter German officer 2: our fighter crashed because he thought the British armor train was but it turned out to be a small miniature loco Fuhrer: WHAT HOW !!! A TINY ARMORED TRAIN
I believe the regimental history published just after the war has a bit more information regarding the downed German aircraft. (I suspect there would also be stuff listed in the battalion’s War diary held by the IWM). I might try and track them down when the archives are accessible again after the Covid restrictions lift!
Ah, my two favourite things. Trains and WW2. About the planes they shot down, the pronunciation of them are: The Messerschmitt (Mess-Er-Schmitt) The Hienkel (High-ng-kell) The Dornier (Dawn-E-Air) I’m not German so correct me If I’m wrong please.-Das Mann
three aircraft shot down are three most famous German planes: Heinkel He 111(a bomber), Messerschmidt Bf109(a fighter), and a Dormier Do 17(a bomber). they’re easier to pronounce than you think 😏
I got told the story of them being credited with the shoot down from friends who have crewed on the rh&Dr. As well as when I visited I got told that by station crews. Far as I'm concerned it's true.
The airplane crash was caused by target fixation. A real problem the Stuka dive bombers had a system that automatically leveled the plane after the bomb was released. Attribution of who shot down aircraft is very difficult it's unlikly given the armament they shot any planes down.
During WW2 there was a German pilot who insisted that he was shot down by a Spitfire. This was because no other aircraft was capable of defeating him. In reality the nearest Spitfire squadron was some 200 miles away. Imagine being the pilot who was shot down by a miniature railway.
I heard a similar account of the pilot crashing into the ground. The plane opened fire on the train, but, being miniature, he thought it further away then it was. By the time he realised how close to the ground he was (& how small the train was) his propeller was practically mowing the grass! Another interesting story from the war, not concerning the RHDR, but actually the Southern Railway, was that of D3 Class No.2365. The German gunner opened up on her, & she didn't take kindly, exploding violently when bullets pierced her dome. The plane consequently crashed. The engine was returned to work.
Wow
The LB&SCR D3 didn't explode violently, she merely let out a cloud of blinding steam from her dome. The plane crashed and the pilot drowned.
Sorry if I'm a bit pedantic, but exploding violently makes it sound like she had a boiler explosion and not a major steam leak.
@@godzillahomer Hmm, aye, to be fair I ain't read the story for years. I just remember the boiler taking umbrage, as well it may, to being shot. There's a photo of the engine, with half the boiler lagging gone & a distinct bend in the running plate, which my rather leaky memory interpreted as a full on explosion.
@@ajaxengineco
might have been a small explosion then, I've never seen a picture of it, just heard about the incident.
Whats even funnier is that the engine was actually entirely credited for the kill so after returning to work, a small symbol was put on the engine showing the earned kill
I travelled on the RHDR a few years back, stopping off at Dungeness to climb the lighthouse.. I glanced down and and saw a train standing in the station. I was disorientated, everything seemed out of proportion and it took a while to adapt. I can certainly believe a fighter pilot became just as confused.
Some people: Miniature trains are useless tourist traps
Those people when this thing shows up to their house: *Thomas O face*
It’s a form of transport
In the 80's it was used to take kids to and from school.
How is it considered a tourism trap? Miniature railways are very useful. Agreed, let's re-armour Hercules and drive her head-on into those idiots' front door.
NOW FOR THE MOMENT WE'VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR armored toy train
I wouldn't call it a toy it can still kill you if your not careful and they are not true minitures either as they are built slightly over scale so they are bit more powerful than if they where built to true scale
Tillig makes a switch that takes narrow gauge and standard gauge that merges them into one track, it’s called the tillig diverging dual gauge switch, now you can combine your scales! Edit I’m just saying trainboy should buy it
😮
DON'T MIND IF I DO
fantastic
They actually make these for multiple gauges, not only H0e/HOn30/HOn2.5’ but also H0m!
@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis WAIT WOT
Speaking of armored trains, have you heard of the Battle of Savage’s Station and it’s claim to fame as the first time a railway battery was used in combat?
To summarize the entire affair:
After Robert E. Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia, he began an extensive program of building defenses for the city of Richmond. A part of this included the construction of a railway gun to counter the Union’s siege artillery.
The project was undertaken by the Confederate Navy, of all groups, and the gun would be manned by men of the confederate navy. The Railway gun consisted of an iron casemate built on top of a railway car (most likely a flatbed car) with sloped armor similar to ironclads of the time. Inside, a 32 pounder Brooke naval rifle was mounted, which was considerably more powerful than most field artillery of the time.
During the Seven Days battles, which was Lee’s major counteroffensive against McClellan’s army, the railway gun along with several other cars, which were reinforced with cotton bails as additional armor against small arms fire, were pushed down the Richmond and York River Railroad line towards Savage’s Station - the main base of operations for the Army of the Potomac that acted as a supply depot and a field hospital. General John Magruder’s forces were accompanied by the railway battery up towards the station, but their forces were stalled due to stiff resistance by significantly numerically superior forces, which, with General Thomas J. “Stonewall” Jackson’s forces being slowed down by the Chickahominy River to the north, meant that the battle ended in a stalemate. However, the Army of the Potomac would abandon Savage’s Station overnight and retreated to the south.
The railway line where this all took place is still in service and a number of markers detail the event, though much of the battlefield is covered by I-295 and I-64. As for the railway gun, no one knows what happened to it. It was most likely cannibalized for its valuable iron as well as the 32 pounder gun and most likely was reused for the River battery defenses along the James.
I’ve been to this railway on many occasions, in fact I went on Sunday! It’s a lovely place with lots of interesting little locos. If you ever get the chance to go, you should. The replica of the armoured train hasn’t been scrapped (can confirm, saw it on Sunday), but it is in terrible condition, however it’s made of wood and the railway will most likely rebuild it.
Wow this was amazing. Narrow Gauge Engines maybe my favorite but the miniature gauge Railway always has something very interesting offer. Another Splendid video trainboy.
can we just all agree we all love the intro
I have driven one of their locos for a driving experience no 9 Winston Churchill and it was obviously fun it felt like we where doing 70-80 mph
The RH&DR is amazing especially when you get to Dungeness then you can stick your head out of the window and speed along at 30mph on the flat and if you do go there one day make sure to try out there cheesy chips
What a surprise I watch him as well
Same
I've been to RH&DR a couple of times now, it's amazing little railway recommend going (mainly if you live in UK atm)
His videos are so well made. You should do a miny railway on your layout. You should make one of the mines like Hercules. Plus a train for him.
The RH&DR is one of my fave Heritage railways. A very long run with beautiful scenic routes. If you ever get over to the UK, I HIGHLY recommend visiting it, alongside the Bluebell Railway
I can partly confirm for Darknut. In fact I was about to comment saying the exact same thing. I vividly remember watching a war program on TV years ago featuring the RH&DR that did indeed claim that three German fighters were shot down by the railway and also told of the "woopsie" of German fighter pilots becoming disorientated and losing track of their altitude and crashing while shooting at the train. This was when I was a kid though so you'd have to go back at least 25 years to find it on BBC. However there are other films that state not a single bullet was ever fired from the train and the films featuring it only show soldiers practicing. I guess it's left to speculation, but I'm with you; It would be awesome to think this little bugger took down some German planes!
I class myself as very lucky. My grandparents moved to the area when I was a kid. On my first visit I ran down their garden full of flowers and greenery, to a little opening right at the end, only to find the train track literally there on the other side of the wire fence. I lost my mind. I spent so many years down there waving to the drivers and passengers as they passed us. This railway will always have a special place in my heart. I'm now 26 and I'll never stop being amazed by how gorgeous the trains are every time I visit.
Yo i live near the RH&DR and it's an awesome lil railway. They have a fucking awesome model railway at one of the stations as well and i have many fond memories from childhood of riding it! Highly recomend the visit :)
It’s good that the Arsdale engines get a bit of screen time
did you even listen? the arlesdale engines are from the ravenglass & eskdale railway
I did listen I was just saying that they get a little reference
@@buzzygaming7667 why are you so angry lmao
@@milkythomas9029 first of all, this is not your business and second of all I'm not angry lmao now go on your way and leave me alone
@@buzzygaming7667 ok? I don’t care if it is my business or not you posted this on a public UA-cam video and you can’t do anything about me commenting
ok just imagine
_just imagine_
you're a highly trained pilot in what was the most revered and also feared air force in the world
flying one of the most advanced planes of the time
and you get shot down by a _theme park ride_
Nice to see more on this little line, especially from Train Boy. And yea Train of Thought is a great channel, really snappy and fun content
You should definitely take a trip to England next year, and visit not just this railway, but all the 15 inch gauge railways in the country. There’s so many of them and you’ll love most if not all of them.
I have been on a train with Hercules, Samson, and Dr Syn as prime movers.
Amongst others, I always make time to visit this railway when going to the UK.
Fascinating video mate! Really enjoyed it!
Announcer: “The enemy is being reinforced with an armored toy train!”
These trains are anything but toys and provide a proper timetabled service for the locals. The area is extremely flat and so there are a number of level crossings, unusual now in the UK, and drivers think the trains are toys and can stop. They are so wrong which the often find out.
This is awesome! Great work. I'm gonna subscribe rn
I have always had a fascination for railways, British ones in particular as I was born in England, but moved with my folks to Australia in 1950. I read about the RH&D as a young fellow in about 1951 or 52, and had a photograph of Laurel and Hardie opening the railway after the war, however later on I found a building and 'place' in Melbourne that sent me on a hunt for more information. The building was "Howey House:" and the lane beside it was "Howey Place." In those days it was quite a laborious task to research the history, but after some years I managed it, and learned of the connection to the RH&D.
The Sea Captain, Henry Howey, who, I believe owned a couple of ships trading around the coast of Australia, bought the land at the first land auction in Melbourne in 1837 for £128. He and his wife drowned when the ship (i don't think it was his own) sank near Sydney. The Howey Estate was set up to manage his affairs. A large building was built on the site and the laneway was named. Henry's younger brother inherited the property, and his son became Captain John Edwards Howey, who was the founder of the RH&D railway, using money from his Mebourne assets.
So Money from a Melbourne property, invested in England, helped to provide the location for the Pluto pipeline and so aid in the war effort!
I grew up in New Romney where this line is, its absolutely magical. Seriously one of the most interesting little gems in England.
Ixve never seen a train like that before! It looks really cool!
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
In WW2 the RH&DR railway was very much a working line. In addition to Experimental Sound Mirrors on the line , there are several buildiungs that were built , and disgused to house pumping staions for the PLUTO (Pipeline Under The Ocean ) thatr supplied Allied foreces after D- Day. The line was used for logistics to the various point
Been waiting for this!
@TrainBoy Nice video ! I too am quite fashinated about the history of hercules (especially during the war years !). It's a shame really that in reality (so i'm told by someone who's had experience with it) Hercules is not actually that good of a loco, mainly due to the fact of it being quite a poor steamer, but i still think it looks awsome ! Also you'll be happt to know that the replica of armored hercules does still exist ! (although in quite a sorry state) i have pics of it but unfortunately cannot send them trough yt comments.
The boiler shop at Paxman looked pretty much the same in the 1980's apart from a distinct lack of locomotives. I believe all the drawings existed at that time for the RH&D engines. There was a story circulating that an oil sheikh wanted to buy some new ones as a train set for his kids but even he couldn't afford the price they would have cost.
Trainboy is so good with railway history really appreciate the effort you put into these videos. :)
I actually worked at this railway. I was a volunteer for a few times and hope to work there again someday. I don’t live too far from there, in fact my secondary school (high school for you Americans) I used to go to was within the countryside of Hythe, one of the stations. Always remember hearing the steam and diesel’s horns/whistles whilst I was studying there, even my final exams towards the end Lol!
Well that’s part of my personal life for ya with this beloved railway! 😁
The RH&DR railway definitely recounts the "aircraft ploughing into the ground" story in their own museum interpretations of the replica armoured train, so that's about as good as we can get.
A local company, 'Armoured Engineering', were building a new metal bodied armour plating before lockdown last year, however I'm unsure of the progress of it now.
It’s on hold until financially viable due to COVID
I have been to this little railway once. I believe I was on the green one it was a while ago. The passenger car was too small for me and my dad It hurt my back. It was still a fun day
Never overlook a little engine
Well, SINCE you made this referencing the narrow gauge engines, I think we can all humbly agree that this is a trailer for things to come.
We be seein big narrow gauge engines, real big monsters.
I've heard of this story before but not this way! Now I'm more intrigued by this like railway and Hercules!
Imagine being shot down by a narrow gauge toy train
It a grand scale
It could be worse, the British built 300 Flower Class corvettes. They were small ships designed to sink German submarines and they were all named after flowers. So a lot of tough U-boats were sunk by ships with names like HMS Daffodil.
It would have been cool if Wilbert Awdry hade one of the miniature engines to of had the backstory of Hercules. But this video was interesting. Love to you trainboy 😀
This video is really informative and well made :). Nicely done
I was just gonna watch the recommended TOT video then come back here.
Instead i'm gonna binge his entire roster of videos first, since they're all short.
BRB
Okay, i'm back after binging all his videos and all those from 4F Productions, amongst other videos.
As someone who lives in east Kent im very happy to see that so many people care about this small but fascinating railway! wartime defiantly had a massive impact on the southeast of England and the railways were no exception.One of my favourite railways is the old Elham Vally railway who played a small but interesting role during both wars. Along the line there is a place called Bourne Park where there is a small tunnel that for a time was home to a BL 18-inch railway gun hidden between the trees. It was nick named the "Boche Buster" There is not much left to let you know it was even there but the old route still survives like bridges and the old station that is now someones home! But there is one thing! if you look really closely, at the top of the tunnel entrance you can see big marks in the bricks where the barrel of the gun had smacked into the tunnel. Its a largely forgotten part of history but still interesting and important none the less! Heres a link to some information if you would like to learn more.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BL_18-inch_railway_howitzer
I rode the ravenglass and eskdale (or lal ratty) so many times as a kid! Breathtaking scenery. Highly recommended.
Fun Fact: In 2013 the R&ER had a giant fire in their workshops, which destroyed almost half of their operating fleet. The RHDR leased Hercules and Samson (their number 7) to them, and of they hadn't it might not have survived.
James is my favourite character and I heard the train of thought but I never thought you never heard of it and also greetings from Britain and by the way I subscribed to the train of thought
I want to start a model railroad, but I'm confined to a small fold out table, would I still be able to start a model railroad? You've given me some inspiration on what I would like my model railroad to consist of, but the only thing is I need a starter set, I was thinking a Bachmann Thomas the train set and ask for Percy and some rolling stock and some scenery
I know how you feel man I've got a tiny table too plus I dont even use it its too small so I do it on my bed I have thomas Edward and a war deisel
What exactly is the size of your table? You will need to keep scale in mind if space is a premium
Those aircraft you mentioned, are three very widely known planes in the aviation community. The bf 109 was a very famous fighter, as it was the Germans way of trying to combat the p51 mustang and spitfires of the US and Britian. The He111 is a medium bomber capable of carrying up to 1,700 kg worth of bombs. The DO17 is a light bomber that honestly provided more use as a flying pencil than an actual bomber. I have to give these men extreme respect for being able to knock out these aircraft with what they had!
Sorry to split hairs but... the Messerscmitt 109 (aka Me 109, Bf109) was the Luftwaffe's standard fighter for the first two years of the war, primarily against Spitfires and Hurricanes, until the Fw190 came along to keep it company, and it was used throughout the war. The Mustang didn't arrive until January 1942, so calling the 109 the Germans' way of trying to combat it is misleading. The 109's first significant role was in trying to overcome Hurricanes and Spitfires.
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@@JTT0509 Thank you, for taking my slightly hairsplitting comment in such good spirit.
The He111, by the way, was the principal bomber used by the Luftwaffe during the early years of the war, though I believe the Junkers 88 was rated more highly as its superior speed made it much harder to catch.
I was like "Why does this remind me of the Little Railway that Could?" and then realised that "OH HELLO MENTIONSHIPFE"
You should make a model of this
Great episode on this very interesting locomotive. I have a somewhat similar locomotive documentary series called Remarks Engines which covers little known locomotives, such as a streamlined Doodlebug and 4-4-0.
Love all of your content 🙌🏼
Train of thought is such a good channel
I’ve been visiting the RHDR since I was a baby and I’ve continued to visit it every year since
If I ever go to Britain, I'm adding the RH&DR to my list of steam railways to see
I'm so happy to work for this railway!
Never overlook a little engine, especially if it is equipped with weapons in wartime
Sorry to hear the armoured “snood” as like to call it has been scrapped as I was involved in building it. Our publicity manager of the time managed to obtain genuine weapons. When I was employed on the RHDR I met a man who was an apprentice working at a local engineering works when the original armour was made. He said it was made from old boiler plates from the Railway works at Ashford and pretty well doubled the loco’s weight. There is another 4-8-2 called Samson. Both names being are Greek mythological giants. In 1984 Samson when to a temporary railway at a Garden Festival in Liverpool and I had to modify the bogie and radial to get it round the very tight curves, even so on one bend the inside radial lifted off the rail but the loco never came off. The story about Hercules bringing a plane down is always mentioned but I never found a date or number.
I know Train Of Thought. Love him. He’s awesome.
That’s so cool!! 😎 and awesome!! 😎
The Arlesdale Railway is a bit different then I remember
_than_ not _then_
Hercules's (the engine) theme is zero to hero, because it went from a normal locomotive to the only miniature armored train
Funny enough, I found Train of Thought before I saw this video. I think my favorite video was the ugly duckling.
Oh man, you missed out. German plane names are fun!
Mesh-uh-shmit, hyn-kul, door-nee-uh.
They lowkey kind of are now that you mention it, now I keep saying Door-Knee-Uh to myself 🤣
My daughter is obsessed with this line and we ride it quite often. The replica is on a siding, albeit it poor condition. Or at least it was 18 months ago
German officer: My fuhrer our fighter
German officer 2: our fighter crashed because he thought the British armor train was but it turned out to be a small miniature loco
Fuhrer: WHAT HOW !!! A TINY ARMORED TRAIN
I watched a video about the Taylyn Railway really interesting!
I call the engines from RH&DR as Gordons little brothers (Oi people. Don't get pissed off. I just call them that way.)
I believe the regimental history published just after the war has a bit more information regarding the downed German aircraft. (I suspect there would also be stuff listed in the battalion’s War diary held by the IWM). I might try and track them down when the archives are accessible again after the Covid restrictions lift!
Have you ever thought of doing a custom model of Stephen from King of the railway? One of my favourite steam engines.
Hercules looks kinda like a weird version of Astrotrain while in their purple armoured get-up.
Ah, my two favourite things. Trains and WW2. About the planes they shot down, the pronunciation of them are:
The Messerschmitt (Mess-Er-Schmitt)
The Hienkel (High-ng-kell)
The Dornier (Dawn-E-Air)
I’m not German so correct me If I’m wrong please.-Das Mann
3:15 don’t worry I have mastered these names
Messerschmitt (mess er shh mit) heinkel (hine kel) dorinier (door eh nor/ door nor)
Pluto wasn’t really needed in the end and fuel wasn’t pumped through the lines for some time! But it did stretch from Liverpool to Frankfurt!
image buying a capsule mike and the first thing he does is convert it into that war time locomotive.
:0 one of my friends ((Busted Side Rods)) helped mr Trainboy :0 woah
three aircraft shot down are three most famous German planes: Heinkel He 111(a bomber), Messerschmidt Bf109(a fighter), and a Dormier Do 17(a bomber). they’re easier to pronounce than you think 😏
I got told the story of them being credited with the shoot down from friends who have crewed on the rh&Dr. As well as when I visited I got told that by station crews. Far as I'm concerned it's true.
i love the RH&DR so much i want to work there
For more of the RH&DR, try here. Taken some years ago but includes several engines.
I have been the railway since my childhood.
I love that video
When I saw the thumbnail I thought you were going to make The armored munchkin because of its tiny size😂
The Enemy has been reinforced with an armoured train
Fastest I’ve clicked on a notification geez
That boy tiny (not train boy I mean the Railway trains that run on the line but still love your content)
If you ever plan on doing a video on the R&ER, give me a shout, I can get some great quality pics. I only live 5 mins away 👍
There was a replica made around no5 out of fome it had been for a gala However it was taken apart after the gala had finished
The airplane crash was caused by target fixation. A real problem the Stuka dive bombers had a system that automatically leveled the plane after the bomb was released. Attribution of who shot down aircraft is very difficult it's unlikly given the armament they shot any planes down.
Great Britain can't be harmed if the toy train is armed.
"let's all use armored tubes filled with high pressure steam so if we get shot it explodes and we all die!"
I've been subbed to him for a long time
During WW2 there was a German pilot who insisted that he was shot down by a Spitfire. This was because no other aircraft was capable of defeating him. In reality the nearest Spitfire squadron was some 200 miles away. Imagine being the pilot who was shot down by a miniature railway.
It almost looks like some model trains
What? That engine is soo smexy
OH YEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!