This is a complete video of the 4-Alarm fire at 240 East Houston Street on Thursday, 7/8/10. Apologies for the windy mic and shakiness, this was shot on my phone. 1 of 5
Further comment. I did not realise it was the whole fire filmed. Yes it later seeemed to be a roof fire, and to me very unusual. I think the firemen did a wonderful job, and just worked their way beautifully through that inferno. Thanks so much for posting these videos. God bless those brave men.
Thanks for filming this intense fire however one pan of the smoke rising into the sky is all that we need. You don't need to look at the smoke 5 times.We want to see the ground activity especially when the FD arrives,. Thanks.
WAIT WAIT WAIT whats going on i cant see because the camera is shaking Maybe holding it still so people like me can see a little bit better i cant see at all since its so shaky...
with their high pressure, you run the risk of pushing the fire through one of those openings or through the roof itself if their is a weak spot. Many roofs are rubber coated now days. if there is a tear or leak, or if it melts which it likely did in this fire, you want to push it sideways, not down onto the exposed framing below. That is why they didn't use the master streams. The ladders were up for firefighter evacuation in case of an emergency. Capt Eng 732 (retired)
Hi joek, I want to try and explain this to you without being sarcastic or talking down to you. This is a roof fire only. From the video, it does not appear that there is any fire extension into the top floor of the building itself. The proper way to fight this fire would be with the engine crews accessing the roof and putting it out with hand lines. Roofs have several openings in them such as sky lights, access hatches, drains for the rain water etc. By using the master streams
FDNY is not a department that gets there and starts lobbing water in from the outside, they will always try and aggressive interior attack first, until command says to get out, they have a system and riding positions on all their apparatus, they know what they are doing, great job to the FDNY.
@joek0617 That would serve pretty much no purpose other than steaming alive the crews inside. How exactly would you try to shower the fire with master streams off the trucks? Let then engines do their work.
canadiancatgreen hey guys here’s a surprise, a negative comment on a fire they don’t know nothing about, by a person who knows nothing about firefighting!! You do know it takes a little for guys to get to the scene in traffic, and city blocks ? Wow pull up your diaper now cause you been spanked well little boy!!
A big fire and getting bigger. What was the outcome here. To the guy that thought this was just a roof fire, I dont think it was at the end of the film, And I would not send men to the upper floor of that building, based on what I could see at the end.
I'm so sorry for your and all the residents' loss. I heard nobody was seriously injured and even most pets were rescued, which I really hope is true. This can be a truly frightening place to live.
@boerenlol If they set up the master streams on the trucks, they're going to push the fire inside and the building would be a total loss. They let the engines do their work and fight it from the inside saving the building. Very aggressive tactic but thats FDNY for you.
@joek0617 No they are not already dead. Look at the top floor not the roof. See whats on the roof, if they would have done your idea they would of pushed all of that down onto potential victims and FF's inside of the fire building. You cannot mix offensive and defensive operations.
do not think it was done in Denmark, where Copenhagen fire departement has a different response than there are in America...jeg tror ikke det var sket i Denmark, hvor copenhagen brandvæsen har et andet beredskab end der er i amerika
Fires like this are rare so NYFD has to make them last to justify their numbers and for people to still think they are great. Slowness is one of NYFD's greatest feats and they are good at it, nobody is as slow as they are when it comes to actually fighting a fire.
Further comment. I did not realise it was the whole fire filmed. Yes it later seeemed to be a roof fire, and to me very unusual. I think the firemen did a wonderful job, and just worked their way beautifully through that inferno. Thanks so much for posting these videos. God bless those brave men.
Krisone63 you must be a one man fire company that can do it all and do it 100 times better than everyone else.
Thanks for filming this intense fire however one pan of the smoke rising into the sky is all that we need. You don't need to look at the smoke 5 times.We want to see the ground activity especially when the FD arrives,. Thanks.
First truck is there in 3 minutes for those who say they took forever... go back to reading your superman comic books
Wow -- you picked up on this job early on. And thank you, thank you for shooting horizontally! Lou
WAIT WAIT WAIT whats going on i cant see because the camera is shaking Maybe holding it still so people like me can see a little bit better i cant see at all since its so shaky...
Before anyone's even there, nice footage.
with their high pressure, you run the risk of pushing the fire through one of those openings or through the roof itself if their is a weak spot. Many roofs are rubber coated now days. if there is a tear or leak, or if it melts which it likely did in this fire, you want to push it sideways, not down onto the exposed framing below. That is why they didn't use the master streams. The ladders were up for firefighter evacuation in case of an emergency. Capt Eng 732 (retired)
Manhattan box 409. First due companies are Engine 28 and Ladder 11.
how many pics of the smoke do we need?
Hi joek, I want to try and explain this to you without being sarcastic or talking down to you. This is a roof fire only. From the video, it does not appear that there is any fire extension into the top floor of the building itself. The proper way to fight this fire would be with the engine crews accessing the roof and putting it out with hand lines. Roofs have several openings in them such as sky lights, access hatches, drains for the rain water etc. By using the master streams
well said, 3 minutes and a half is a phenominal response time, especially considering its NYC, with the kind of traffic they have to deal with there.
@MegaTitans101 Oh? Tell me, how can you state that without knowing what time the first 911 call was made?
FDNY is not a department that gets there and starts lobbing water in from the outside, they will always try and aggressive interior attack first, until command says to get out, they have a system and riding positions on all their apparatus, they know what they are doing, great job to the FDNY.
@joek0617 That would serve pretty much no purpose other than steaming alive the crews inside. How exactly would you try to shower the fire with master streams off the trucks? Let then engines do their work.
excellent shooting!
Also note that firechiefs are extremely hesitant to send the boys inside when the fire is already popping through the roof of the structure
also WHERE WHERE FIRE TRUCKS AND ALL THAT AT THE START? WERE THEY ON A DIFFERIANT STREET OR DID THEY WAIT BEFORE GETTING HERE
canadiancatgreen hey guys here’s a surprise, a negative comment on a fire they don’t know nothing about, by a person who knows nothing about firefighting!! You do know it takes a little for guys to get to the scene in traffic, and city blocks ? Wow pull up your diaper now cause you been spanked well little boy!!
@joek0617 What if their were victims located on the top floor of the fire building?
who's up on the roof of that taller...he's raising a toast!
A big fire and getting bigger. What was the outcome here. To the guy that thought this was just a roof fire, I dont think it was at the end of the film, And I would not send men to the upper floor of that building, based on what I could see at the end.
You have to understand they are trained and seen this before. They know what they are doing, believe me.
Brian Jacobi the outcome is the fire went out, the building is still standing and people still live in it.
what was the point of shaking the camera?
canadiancatgreen already been said it’s windy, are you a great photographer and can do better?
I'm so sorry for your and all the residents' loss. I heard nobody was seriously injured and even most pets were rescued, which I really hope is true. This can be a truly frightening place to live.
@boerenlol If they set up the master streams on the trucks, they're going to push the fire inside and the building would be a total loss. They let the engines do their work and fight it from the inside saving the building. Very aggressive tactic but thats FDNY for you.
FDNY only uses EQ's on their newer apparatus. This is a manual setting on a siren although I forget the name
@boerenlol thats not how a fire is fought in new york. we fight with an aggressive interior attack
Attendance time is good, but the action after arrival is too slow The ladders should be put in position immediately and utilised: water water water .
what city is this?
i love this town
@joek0617 No they are not already dead. Look at the top floor not the roof. See whats on the roof, if they would have done your idea they would of pushed all of that down onto potential victims and FF's inside of the fire building. You cannot mix offensive and defensive operations.
4:32 Jesus Christ! :D
crazy, i never seen this video. i stay a few blocks from here
Dam, that's a lot of smoke!
do not think it was done in Denmark, where Copenhagen fire departement has a different response than there are in America...jeg tror ikke det var sket i Denmark, hvor copenhagen brandvæsen har et andet beredskab end der er i amerika
What city is this in
Moscow.
@3:58 is that a Mr Softie Ice Cream Truck........Stop!!!!!
@nhfd147 noit if they gave the fire a shower with the streams, aim above the fire
@nhfd147 The FDNY certainly knows what it's doing. It's been honing its tactics for over 140 years.
Moved the camera too much man. Fix it to where the action is
I would have stopped at Katz's for a corned beef sandwich.
First arrival should of called for a third alarm their is no traffic control where is the HPD
the red devil had a running start..
After NYFD & CFD, everyone else is next. Blitz 85 LZFD Ret. Illinois
since when is there a no horn honking law in NYC? haha
that sounds like an electronic Federal Q, wtf
Almost got motion sick watching
ALSO NOTE ALL THE NOSY PEOPLE LOOK AT THE FIRE
Turn the caps lock off!!!!!!!
This is right by Katz's delicatessen at Ludlow Street.
NYC
@ntfd125 they're already dead, and i meant the TL's
@boerenlol SLOW WHAT?!? wtf are you talking about... you act like they dont need time to setup.
good capture but quit all the swearing sheryljordan
It hast to be in the cockloft by now if not started there. Bad fire, spreads fast.
Did Michael J Fox shoot this video???
Try not walking with the camera ....
@0.34 lol
OMG
did they blame the muslims....
took them long enough
go help them civilian.
usually day of usa...
Jesus Christ
Fires like this are rare so NYFD has to make them last to justify their numbers and for people to still think they are great. Slowness is one of NYFD's greatest feats and they are good at it, nobody is as slow as they are when it comes to actually fighting a fire.
+krisone63 - what the heck are you talking about, they have four ladders up in 10 minutes, that seems very quick to me.
They have over 2,400 serious fires (all hands or higher) each year. They hardly need to make anything last to justify anything to anyone.
krisone63 The NYFD may be slow, but the *FDNY* is a heck of a lot quicker.
grotest at det tager langtid at slukket denne brand
Ttt
the red devil had a running start..
did they blame the muslims....
Not unless the roofer was one.