I am with you guys. I saw him pass out of situations where he should have imposed his will far too many times to see him as a top player in this league. Right now, any number of players from Pablo to Scotty to Victor to Chet seem very clearly better than him. Based on what I'm seeing, this looks like a guy content to ride his considerable talent to a career as a 15 year quality player, and retire with a pile of cash. Something like a taller, more athletic Channing Frye. Will probably get a ring, sometime, somewhere but only as a third banana.
50 million/yr salary is the max numbers for FA with 10 years or more of nba experience. The less than 6 year max number is a lot less. This contract is going to look a lot more like DG’s contract and DG still has real trade value even with that contract. This level of talent even on the Rookie max is not the same risk as was discussed on this segment.
Is there a reason none of these shows can mute the coughing/throat clearing?? There has to be a way to do it. It is sooo loud and gross when coming through car or headphone speakers . I’m not even in that industry but I’ve heard of a cough button.
It is gross. Moreover, it's unprofessional. Don't hear that shite on ESPN, or something like Meet the Press, so why can't they figure out how to eliminate it here. Just a poor production value. Need a real sound editor over there.
Wait another year. He’s not anywhere close to a max player. Anthony Edward’s is a max rookie. If Mobley doesn’t break 20 and 10. Then he’s not worth it.
If the panel for the day is G, Bull, and Tyvis just don’t talk Cavs. Jesus man the takes are awful. 30/30 GMs would extend Evan in this situation. 1st team all Defense already, top 5 defender in the LEAGUE. It’s a no-brainer, especially considering the fact that they might trade Jarrett. He’s getting extended 100%
Mobley made 1st defensive team. He is a menace defensively. Then, can he grow? Yes. Worth TODAY rookie max? No. He has 1 year. If he remains this, we should offer 25 per year. But he has some flashes from 3, from driving and from passes. He won't be Jokic, but he can be Evan Mobley++
These players are grossly overpaid, with all the people struggling in this word, it is so disgraceful what these loser players get, especially when they are not performing at a high level all the time. I really wish people would not support these leagues and would ban together to try and put an end to the players making this kind of money.
That's what happens when you give DG that mighty Max contract....Let Evan test RFA....not a max player yet....besides what we he get if he could shoot?
Bruh has Mobley done anything? If you haven’t made an all-star team, I’d be hesitant to give him all that cash. Let him wait to RFA and just match any offer. Not gonna reward him on potential and flashes. I’m burned from DG. If Mobley kills it next year, make it rain on that man.
I’ll say this mobley real potential has been hindered because garland Allen Mitchell and even levert shoot as many as shots as him and he really a center like Chet and wemby but he hasn’t had the space to work with because those guys I would keep Mitchell get rid of those other guys and bulked around Mitchell and monkey and give him the max we will the see a all star even Mobley
Are you kidding me??? his elite defense was equally, if not more responsible for the opening series win, in which he was a defensive NIGHTMARE for the Magic all series long. He held Banchero to 28% shooting when he covered him one on one for the series. He shut Banchero down in one on one situations in games 1, 2 & 4 to the point where when Banchero was matched up one on one with Mobley, he began passing out to other teammates, knowing he couldn't beat him one on one, thus forcing the ball out of the hands of the Magic's best player on multiple occasions. When Jarrett Allen went out injured and Mobley was forced to play center and was no longer defending Banchero all game, what a shock... Banchero went batshit the rest of the series. But even then, when Mobley did match up one on one on in the limited situations while playing center, he STILL shut Banchero down. He had countless blocks and steals. He made the game wining block in game 5 on Franz Wagner. I've literally never seen a game winning BLOCK, and I've been watching the NBA since the '80s. This is all besides the fact that he still has an extremely high ceiling offensively, and gets better every year. So, in short, YES, Mobley absolutely deserves, and will get a max rookie extension. The future and present of the team are Mitchell & Mobley. Watch what happens when they lock up both and move JA & DG for more off ball shooters and balance the roster out. This team will skyrocket to one of the top 5 contender in the league, easily.
Even mobile just needed more shots he averaged 11 shots a game when he took 25 shots a game against Boston in the playoffs he scored 30 JB need to be fired because he's not giving Evan the ball in the right spots. That's what's wrong with this team and we need an athletic Wing two of them
That’s the wrong ? The question is was Darius Garland worth the rookie max? And is Kolby Altman worth making decisions for this franchise. LeBron and Rich could have built better, just from a basketball iq perspective. Shit is ugly
He's gonna get the max, cavs have no choice, if they don't want him work out a sign and trade or something but pissing off the one player on your team who still has significant room to grow is a bad idea
Cavs absolutely have a choice! He may become a superstar but teams let players walk sometimes if they’re forced to pay them a ton and if the organization doesn’t think the player is worth 50,000,000 a year. Happens all the time
They absolutely have a choice. He’s a 15 and 9 guy who can barely shoot. Make him play another year and see how much he grows. For reference Anthony Edward’s and Halliburton on the Pacers are rookie max guys. Mobley is no where near their class right now.
anyone who didnt think this was automatic is just silly. and i'm not saying he deserves it. i'm also not saying its his fault that he doesnt deserve it. but him getting it or assuming he would get it is automatic.
Yall Okay with pushing everything to the RIGHT with MOBLEY and OKORO yet it NEVER FAILS that every new season not only do their physiques look exactly the same but so do their respective skill sets and games. Cavs fans favorite narrative: “Oh but they’ve got promise, and potential…their ceilings are really high!” DEFINITION OF INSANITY 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
The entire premise of your absurd argument is based on a lie. Both Mobley and Okoro have gotten better every year, both on offense and defense. Okoro went form being a complete liability on offense, to a solid contributor on open 3s and slashing to the rim. Mobley did nothing but dunk his entire rookie year, and has continued to grow his offensive game around the basket with more physicality, moves & hooks. His 3 point shot is night and day better. Both play excellent defense, and Mobley's ELITE defense was as responsible for winning the Orlando series and Mitchell's offense was, if not more so. He shut Banchero down games 1, 2 & 3. Held him to 28% shooting for the series. Was responsible for countless blocks and steals. Had the only game winning block at the rim I've ever seen in game 5 on Franz Wagner. When Jarrett Allen went out & Mobley played center and was no longer covering Banchero, what a surprise, he went batshit there rest of the series. But Mobley STILL shut him down on the occasions he was matched up one on one with him. Try watching a game or two before you pop off about things you know nothing about.
@@themashugana9440 WHAT’S ABSURD is you writing a whole goofy DISSERTATION on a team that gives ZERO FCKS about you and themselves given their drafting, free agent signings and player development. MENTAL HEALTH IS REAL…Please take your pill and seek help now!!!
I am with you guys. I saw him pass out of situations where he should have imposed his will far too many times to see him as a top player in this league. Right now, any number of players from Pablo to Scotty to Victor to Chet seem very clearly better than him. Based on what I'm seeing, this looks like a guy content to ride his considerable talent to a career as a 15 year quality player, and retire with a pile of cash. Something like a taller, more athletic Channing Frye. Will probably get a ring, sometime, somewhere but only as a third banana.
Bam Adebayo averaged 15 points and 10 rebounds in his third season. Give Evan Mobley some time and give him the touches!!
50 million/yr salary is the max numbers for FA with 10 years or more of nba experience. The less than 6 year max number is a lot less. This contract is going to look a lot more like DG’s contract and DG still has real trade value even with that contract. This level of talent even on the Rookie max is not the same risk as was discussed on this segment.
Evan mobley got hurt in Orlando game he played with a sprained ankle cause jared allen got hurt
Is there a reason none of these shows can mute the coughing/throat clearing?? There has to be a way to do it. It is sooo loud and gross when coming through car or headphone speakers . I’m not even in that industry but I’ve heard of a cough button.
It is gross. Moreover, it's unprofessional. Don't hear that shite on ESPN, or something like Meet the Press, so why can't they figure out how to eliminate it here. Just a poor production value. Need a real sound editor over there.
If Philly can make Tyrese Maxey wait until restricted freee agent so should the Cavs for Evan!
Wait another year. He’s not anywhere close to a max player. Anthony Edward’s is a max rookie. If Mobley doesn’t break 20 and 10. Then he’s not worth it.
And who will they give the rookie max you can have 2. The other is garland it is obviously mobley
Bro 50+ million for Mobley is insane 😂 I’ve watched like every game
If the panel for the day is G, Bull, and Tyvis just don’t talk Cavs. Jesus man the takes are awful. 30/30 GMs would extend Evan in this situation. 1st team all Defense already, top 5 defender in the LEAGUE. It’s a no-brainer, especially considering the fact that they might trade Jarrett. He’s getting extended 100%
I've gotta admit I wouldn't lose any sleep if Mobley asked for a trade lol. If DM leaves they should strip the team for parts
Mobley made 1st defensive team. He is a menace defensively. Then, can he grow? Yes. Worth TODAY rookie max? No. He has 1 year. If he remains this, we should offer 25 per year. But he has some flashes from 3, from driving and from passes. He won't be Jokic, but he can be Evan Mobley++
you know what would solve all of this.... just keep JA! he's 100x more important than Mobley let his bum ass walk if he don't like it here.
If you give it to him now he has no motivation to get better screw that
Makes him “wirf” the max contract?
keep Jarret
Mobley is over rated. Keep Allen. See what we can get for Mobley. He don't want to be in Cleveland anyway.
indeed
he has a patented go to move. dribble dribble lose the ball in the paint into a dribble off the foot turnover
Nah wait another year and see what he can do.
They better not get rid of allen that would be the worst move
These players are grossly overpaid, with all the people struggling in this word, it is so disgraceful what these loser players get, especially when they are not performing at a high level all the time. I really wish people would not support these leagues and would ban together to try and put an end to the players making this kind of money.
Koby is the problem!!!!!!!!
your right and nobody is saying it he is the one that picked this shit
The core 4 now makes about 100 mill.per season..soon to be 150 if they keep them all...that's why they can't!
Caris Levert shot a whopping 18% from 3 this post-season...Trade him now while he is on an expiring contract!
Entitlement!!!!!! How about do it the old fashion way. Earn it!
That's what happens when you give DG that mighty Max contract....Let Evan test RFA....not a max player yet....besides what we he get if he could shoot?
Bruh has Mobley done anything? If you haven’t made an all-star team, I’d be hesitant to give him all that cash. Let him wait to RFA and just match any offer. Not gonna reward him on potential and flashes. I’m burned from DG. If Mobley kills it next year, make it rain on that man.
Fair to say. Dude has been averaging the exact same numbers every year since he came into the league
I’ll say this mobley real potential has been hindered because garland Allen Mitchell and even levert shoot as many as shots as him and he really a center like Chet and wemby but he hasn’t had the space to work with because those guys I would keep Mitchell get rid of those other guys and bulked around Mitchell and monkey and give him the max we will the see a all star even Mobley
Are you kidding me??? his elite defense was equally, if not more responsible for the opening series win, in which he was a defensive NIGHTMARE for the Magic all series long. He held Banchero to 28% shooting when he covered him one on one for the series. He shut Banchero down in one on one situations in games 1, 2 & 4 to the point where when Banchero was matched up one on one with Mobley, he began passing out to other teammates, knowing he couldn't beat him one on one, thus forcing the ball out of the hands of the Magic's best player on multiple occasions. When Jarrett Allen went out injured and Mobley was forced to play center and was no longer defending Banchero all game, what a shock... Banchero went batshit the rest of the series. But even then, when Mobley did match up one on one on in the limited situations while playing center, he STILL shut Banchero down. He had countless blocks and steals. He made the game wining block in game 5 on Franz Wagner. I've literally never seen a game winning BLOCK, and I've been watching the NBA since the '80s. This is all besides the fact that he still has an extremely high ceiling offensively, and gets better every year.
So, in short, YES, Mobley absolutely deserves, and will get a max rookie extension. The future and present of the team are Mitchell & Mobley. Watch what happens when they lock up both and move JA & DG for more off ball shooters and balance the roster out. This team will skyrocket to one of the top 5 contender in the league, easily.
@@tribbo2703 doesn’t matter. He’s been more efficient in every category and has also had less touches year by year.
Even mobile just needed more shots he averaged 11 shots a game when he took 25 shots a game against Boston in the playoffs he scored 30 JB need to be fired because he's not giving Evan the ball in the right spots. That's what's wrong with this team and we need an athletic Wing two of them
let em go. He aint got it.
That’s the wrong ? The question is was Darius Garland worth the rookie max? And is Kolby Altman worth making decisions for this franchise. LeBron and Rich could have built better, just from a basketball iq perspective. Shit is ugly
Facts
He's gonna get the max, cavs have no choice, if they don't want him work out a sign and trade or something but pissing off the one player on your team who still has significant room to grow is a bad idea
Cavs absolutely have a choice! He may become a superstar but teams let players walk sometimes if they’re forced to pay them a ton and if the organization doesn’t think the player is worth 50,000,000 a year. Happens all the time
They absolutely have a choice. He’s a 15 and 9 guy who can barely shoot. Make him play another year and see how much he grows. For reference Anthony Edward’s and Halliburton on the Pacers are rookie max guys. Mobley is no where near their class right now.
Who?
anyone who didnt think this was automatic is just silly. and i'm not saying he deserves it. i'm also not saying its his fault that he doesnt deserve it. but him getting it or assuming he would get it is automatic.
No.
Evan mobley did not get the ball in time with Darius Garland Donovan Mitchell when Mitchell was out he looked it great
That's a bad decision by Mobley to say that. Maybe the Cavs should just trade him and keep Allen?
I would for a shooting big. The way Mobley said that I have no faith in him staying with us if he goes to FA
No doubt they even took on his brother, probably because of him.
Nfw he gets max atm
Yall Okay with pushing everything to the RIGHT with MOBLEY and OKORO yet it NEVER FAILS that every new season not only do their physiques look exactly the same but so do their respective skill sets and games. Cavs fans favorite narrative: “Oh but they’ve got promise, and potential…their ceilings are really high!” DEFINITION OF INSANITY 🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪🤪
The entire premise of your absurd argument is based on a lie. Both Mobley and Okoro have gotten better every year, both on offense and defense. Okoro went form being a complete liability on offense, to a solid contributor on open 3s and slashing to the rim. Mobley did nothing but dunk his entire rookie year, and has continued to grow his offensive game around the basket with more physicality, moves & hooks. His 3 point shot is night and day better. Both play excellent defense, and Mobley's ELITE defense was as responsible for winning the Orlando series and Mitchell's offense was, if not more so. He shut Banchero down games 1, 2 & 3. Held him to 28% shooting for the series. Was responsible for countless blocks and steals. Had the only game winning block at the rim I've ever seen in game 5 on Franz Wagner. When Jarrett Allen went out & Mobley played center and was no longer covering Banchero, what a surprise, he went batshit there rest of the series. But Mobley STILL shut him down on the occasions he was matched up one on one with him. Try watching a game or two before you pop off about things you know nothing about.
@@themashugana9440 WHAT’S ABSURD is you writing a whole goofy DISSERTATION on a team that gives ZERO FCKS about you and themselves given their drafting, free agent signings and player development. MENTAL HEALTH IS REAL…Please take your pill and seek help now!!!
if I were Gilbert I'd blow this thing up...Koby and JB gone, full fire sale of players...go the San Antonio, OKC, Philly way
None of those teams have won anything from tanking. Relying on luck is stupid when the Cavs already have talent.