Is Brandon Ingram a perfect fit for the Cleveland Cavaliers?
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- New Orleans Pelicans forward Brandon Ingram is expected to be on the trade market this summer. And the Cleveland Cavaliers could be among the teams interested.
According to NBA insider Marc Stein via his Stein Line newsletter, there is a “growing belief leaguewide that Pelicans will aggressively explore the trade market for Brandon Ingram before next season.” Four teams Stein writes that have already been mentioned as possibly interested in Ingram: The Cavs, the Philadelphia 76ers, the Atlanta Hawks, and the Orlando Magic.
From Stein’s report ($):
Ingram is entering the final year of his contract next season at $36 million and is eligible for a four-year contract extension this summer worth up to $208 million. The Pelicans, remember, already appear to have a strong potential successor on the roster to Ingram thanks to the presence of Trey Murphy III.
Fit concerns about the games of Ingram, CJ McCollum and star forward Zion Williamson persist in New Orleans despite the Pelicans’ 49-33 record this season. A handful of Eastern Conference teams (Philadelphia, Cleveland, Atlanta and Orlando) have already been mentioned as potential trade suitors for Ingram.
Cleveland Cavaliers are looking to make moves but is Brandon Ingram the right fit for the team? Brandon Ingram fills the need for the wing and is a major upgrade from anyone else on the Cavaliers right now. The issue could be trading for a 27 year old who is on the cusp of making 50 million a year after next season. Is the Trio of Brandon Ingram, Donovan Mitchell, and Evan Mobley worth the money and good enough to take the Cleveland Cavaliers further into the post season?
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Trey Murphy is NOT a better defender than Ingram. He isn’t a better playmaker than Ingram. He isn’t a better scorer than Ingram. It’s not even close who is the better player. You can tell he doesn’t watch basketball.
Bro thank you. Like who tf is this dude. He has no clue. I'm a pelicans fan. The one and only reason brandon is in trade talks is because his contract. Add to that our owner hasn't and will not pay the luxury tax. Zion needs 3 pt shooters. That is why trey isnt being moved
Yep
Murphy is definitely a better defender then Ingram
@@Theoriginialdonguillory in what area. If we talking specifically this year nah bro lol. Last year he absolutely was. This year? Ingram took a big leap and unless you watch pels games you wouldn't know
After Herb Jones and Dyson Daniels, Brandon Ingram was our best defender last year.
Also im a pels fan. More than anything. They are shipping bi out because of his contract and the fact our owner gas and never will pay a luxury tax. Never. Theres not a pels coach. Gm or staff member that wont tell you brandon when healthy is easily the 2nd best player on that pelicans roster. The dude that said those that think bi is good are the ones who havent seen him play . Like the dude has no clue what hes talkint about. Trey murphy isnt wven close to the all around hooper bi is. Trey shoots 0-11 from 3 8 games in a row and than will go 7 for 11 for a couple games. Hes the streakiest shooter we have . He also cant do ANYTHING off the dribble. Stop talking abour bs. Trey isnt beint traded because zion needs 3pt shooters and thats it. We love trey. tons Of potential there. BUt even to say hes a way better defender is wrong. I thnk dude who said that shit is the one who hasnt seen brandon play . Or hes got a hard on for the one game trey played very well aganst cleveland last yr. Hes not that guy. Great catch and shoot guy from 3. Thats it right now. Anytime teams run him off the line to make him dribble he no where near as effective
That’s wild to call him the 3rd best wing and he’s the only one averaging 20 a game
And that’s playing with Zion
Luka and Kyrie are 2 ball dominant guards. Why are we over looking the fact that there might be a coach that is good enough to scheme a offense and make these pieces fit
Luka and Kyrie are clutch, DG and Mitchell aren't. Cavs don't have a clutch shooter. DG lacks focus and smarts, but no guard would want to back court with Mitchell. Conley didn't. Brunson wouldn't. Besides, two small guards is a terrible idea in an era of big, defensive guards.
We need to start Levert with Mitchell. Since Mitchell can run offense we need a tall guard who can play make beside him. We can sign a true point guard as 6th or 7th man. Look at this: Trade Darius Garland and Georges Niang to the New Orleans Pelicans for Brandon Ingram. Keep Ty Jerome for his shooting.
SF- Brandon Ingram (Traded For)
PF - Evan Mobley
C- Jarret Allan
PG- Donovan Mitchell
SG- Caris Levert
PG- Buddy Hield/Spencer Dinwiddie/Kyle Lowry ( sign free agency)
SF- Max Strus
SF/SG/PF- Isaac Okoro (resign)
C- Jonas Valanciunas (sign free agency)
PF- Marcus Morris (resign)
SG- Sam Merrill
PF-Tauren Prince (sign free agency)
PG- Ty Jerome
PG- Craig Porter Jr
PF/SF/C- Dean Wade
PF/C- Tristan Thompson (resign)
Emoni Bates
Isaiah Mobley
Pete Nance
Jonas V can shoot from the outside and rebound. He can pair with Mobley and Allen as a shooter. Caris Levert moves to starting lineup as the shooting guard to pair along side Mitchell who is now moved to point guard. We resign Morris because he is a leader, playoff experience, 3 and D guy. He also can pair with Mobley and Allen. Taurean Prince should come back to Cleveland. He is a PF that can stretch the floor and pair with Jonas, Mobley, Allen etc. This is an incredible front rotation. Add in a bonafide point guard like Buddy Heild, Spencer D or Kyle Lowry as 6th man with Strus and Okoro. Add in Morris, Jonas V, Prince, Wade. All tall and can go up against Boston, NY, Philly and Milwaukee. Even with Injuries this is solid and lots of playoff experience. Add in Ty Jerome when healthy can score and shoot the 3.
We need to start Levert with Mitchell. Since Mitchell can run offense we need a tall guard who can play make beside him. We can sign a true point guard as 6th or 7th man. Look at this: Trade Darius Garland and Georges Niang to the New Orleans Pelicans for Brandon Ingram. Keep Ty Jerome for his shooting.
SF- Brandon Ingram (Traded For)
PF - Evan Mobley
C- Jarret Allan
PG- Donovan Mitchell
SG- Caris Levert
PG- Buddy Hield/Spencer Dinwiddie/Kyle Lowry ( sign free agency)
SF- Max Strus
SF/SG/PF- Isaac Okoro (resign)
C- Jonas Valanciunas (sign free agency)
PF- Marcus Morris (resign)
SG- Sam Merrill
PF-Tauren Prince (sign free agency)
PG- Ty Jerome
PG- Craig Porter Jr
PF/SF/C- Dean Wade
PF/C- Tristan Thompson (resign)
Emoni Bates
Isaiah Mobley
Pete Nance
Nothing but shooters and size off the bench. Versatile can play with any team.
PG- Porter, Carrington(20th pick stud)
SG- Mitchell, Hawkins
SF- Ingram, Okoro
PF- Durant, Morris or sign a vet to LM
Center- Mobley, Tristan or sign a vet to LM
Garland to Suns and Allen to Pelicans. Easy enough. lol
I would trade allen or mobley for BI and throw in caris and a pick or 2 in a heartbeat. The pels are going to need a rim protecting 5 and they have enough offense w dejonte murray being added. and potentially dg, donovan, BI, and mobley for starters would be deadly
These are horrible takes on Ingram. Hope he doesn't end up with the Cavs
Trey is a better shooter and that's it. He's not a better leader, defender, scorer, facilitator, and rebounder
Trey played 29 minutes last season vs 32 from Ingram
Ingram averaged 20.9pts 49% on 15.9 shots
Trey averaged 14.8pta 44% on 11.9 shots
Trey isn't better. He fits with Zion and won't challenge him for number 1
Pels are picking Zion over Ingram. That's all that's happening.
The narrative on B.I is crap right now. He's literally been the driving force for the Pels the last 3 years and got them to the playoffs without Z. 42 wins last year when Z played half a season and to the playoffs this year when Z went don't in the playins. He's also the reason they made it far in the IST
I hope he goes where he's WANTED .
If u don’t like DG wait until u BI (Taller DG)
He provides better defending and rebounding because of his height and length.
He's a better player than dg point blank
@@DocJobyEXACTLY!!
That’s what people fail to realize and that’s why the pairing of Mitchell and DG needs to be adjusted and is worse than the pairing of Mobley and Allen
Mobley and Allen don’t space the floor but can screen, roll, dunk, post up and do some facilitating ON top of their amazing defense
When DG doesn’t have the ball in his hands he doesn’t know what to do on offense and then will get picked on on defense. So when he doesn’t have control of the offense he is a net negative
Atleast Ingram can provide some other things and then when it’s his turn to have the offense ran through him he can go for it.
This is also why I do think their is a chance Mobley and Allen are still here next year but there is 0 chance that DG and Mitchell will both be here next year
Bulll funny asf he said so you’re speculating lol 😂
Cavs need legit defender
Regardless what yall think about Ingram the Cavs need to find a robin for dg (cuz he unreliable)
Worst kept secret in the nba is Pelicans will trade Ingram!..No interest...has missed a ton of games the last 3 years,..has only 1 year left on his contract and he is looking for the bag$$$...not a good defensive player...not a good 3 pt. shooter...NO thanks... Very worried that Koby is about to get HOODWINKED by Griff!!
The cavs don’t want to win.
Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!!!
Brandon Ingram is absolutely NOT a fit. Cavs need more OFF-BALL players. Ingram would be another huge contract for a guy who's always injured, and needs the ball in his hands to be effective. PASS!
Ya
Ingram is a good off ball scorer with the ability to facilitate though and off ball movement has to do more with effort by the player and scheming by the coach. He’s also an above average defender. I do agree with the injury prone part though.
Thank you damn it’s like they supposed to know this shittt already I don’t like it
🙏
BI can play offball if given a good coach. not a good catch and shoot guy but good at one dribble pull up and cutting. he just needs a true point guard like Lonzo Ball.
Don't forget Bates 🫡
We are skinny.
Bates, BI, Mobley, even Allen.
What happens when Lebron, Luka, Zion, Embiid, Jokic come into town?
We ball out and out hustle they asses
The right coach could get a ton out of brandon that folks think he doesnt have. Both times the pelicans got into the playoffs it was under bi .. yes hes had injury concerns. But played close to 70 games last year. His defense has majorly progressed and behind lebron youd be hard pressed to find a better facilitator at the forward spot than brandon. Dude drops dimes as hes able to see over the defense. Has aversged 20+ 5 straight years. Can score on anyone. If your worried about the okc series dont be. He was fresh off missing a whole month . The last playoff series he went into healthy against another #1 seed he put up 27/5/6 on 50/41/88 shooting splits. Him and mitchell would be insane . Especially the flare screens they could run for mitchell with bi creating
Please tell this to Cavs management because Ingram, though a very nice player, does not work with Zoion.
Rather go after mikal bridges vs brandon Injured
Mikal would be a perfect fit for the Cavse and exactly who we need!!
Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson from nets or Jerami Grant, Malcom Brogdan and Robert Williams from Trailblazers.
@@o.g.thanos4706 I’d be stoked with either of those trades depending on how much they have to give up.
I love bridges, I love Grant, and definitely Brogdon.
Mikey’s not taking in the fact that that’s how the offense needed him to play in New Orleans.
STOP trying to trade guys for no reason. KEEP ALLEN, you need him. Stop copying other teams who haven't won anything...
Trade Mobley over Allen if Mobley wants 270 million... NO GO... TRADE HIM
Bush out of pocket with that trade package smh
Just trade Garland idc who we get long as dat dude ain’t on the team no more 😂
Mikey literally said trey Murphy is waaay better than Ingram. I’m done with Mikey. Ingram is a scoring machine. Has a great inside game and jump shot, good passer and rebounder, and gets into the paint well. Can also shoot clearly over defenders.
Yeah mikey thinks he knows ball. Such a goob’.
@@thacryinggame trey Murphy did well but doesn’t have the ball skills Ingram has and is primarily a 3 guy. He’s still developing.
I am embarrassed for UCSS for this conversation Ingram ain’t it…DG is talent, Coaches make talent work…Forwards are why CAVS lose games…Mobley ain’t ready to be Center, can’t hold his spot…Plus CAVS don’t have a PG, DM isn’t a PG!
Change for the sake of change is the worst kind of trade. Listen up, UCSS.
lol. They admit Ingram future contract will financially handcuff the team but no one dares admit Mitchell future contract will also screw the team
Guess what, Garland isn’t the answer. We’ve seen two years of Garland and Mitchell. They can’t coexist. Garland was an All star when Mitchell wasn’t here. Move on from Garland. I’ll take 6’9 driver and creating forward over a small PG who defers all the time. Get Ingram now while cheap.
I think the Pelicans prefer Murray & Okungwu of Atlanta for Ingram. Garland is the fallback plan. I don't think the Pels want to trade CJ this year.
Every time we talk about trading JA, it doesn't sit well. IF this rib injury didn't happen, would he even be talked about? I mean arguably the BEST if not 2nd best player in the post season and played phenomenally this year. Not to mention, he's level headed, well liked, good guy, likes Cleveland. I really hope he doesn't get traded. Love JA for this team and for the city of Cleveland.
Yeah is so good but did you see mobley holding his own. Scoring 33pts in final game against the celtics. Their offence is also better with only 1 center. If I choose between Allen or mobley definitely mobley because of all nba defence potential
He would be an upgrade over Darius Garland..#jusayin😁😁.. depending on who else youd have to give up for him but a straight up Garland for Ingram?..i do that in a heartbeat
Cavs need to get their salary cap situation in order! If DM signs and EM gets the Max...that's when you need to put on the breaks until you absolutely find that last $$$ guy!
I'd rather Keep Allen, I wanna 3 team trade give Ingram to Atlanta give Garland to New Orleans, WE take deJonte Murray from Atlanta... defense and automatic 6,5 from mid range 4 years 140 mil left...do it
Loser stuff
I would be cool with that
That’s retarded
Pels fan here: Ingram is so much better than Garland. I hate that straight up trade. We'd have to get Allen in there, too.
How can anyone here talk about anyone’s fit when we don’t even know what the fit is we have a new coach and new staff coming we don’t know how they’re going to use this team … I would like Brandon Ingram and I feel we could get him for Allen and a utility player maybe okoro
Keep okoro he is another trade asset Allen,Niang for ingram
Then trade okoro for DFS
Pelicans don’t want Garland. Ingram for Allen and Levert.
We should really think about miles bridges from the hornets. Aside from off court problems, he’s a nice piece to add to the team
He is not the level of Brandon Ingram. Miles bridges good if he have LaMelo but when creating his own offence his efficiency down
Mike is exactly like most cavs fans when you talking about trades. They don't want to make a trade unless you getting back a superstar for a bench player.
That's one of the reasons why we need to fire Koby Altman
try to convince LBJ to come home, problem solved
Mark Jackson as head coach ...fire Luke Walton and bring back MARKENNAN...somehow...and K Love as backup big...bring up Emoni Bates...get Bronny James as 3rd backup pg...have Lebron take a hometown discount and come back to Cleveland to retire...sign Facu Compazzo as 2nd backup pg...Get rid of Tristan Thompson...trade Caris Levert and maybe Darius Garland ...if you can get Mykal Bridges....cut Niang to make space for Emoni Bates....keep Struss...high IQ player...and lastly draft ...Dalton Kchnect ...or ...that one shooter...Reed Sheppard.....thats what i would do...if i was GM of the CLEVELAND CAVALIERS!!!!....seriously...and i wont even get STARTED on the CLEVELAND BROWNS....oh and i almost forgot...bring LUKE TRAVERS to our gleague team....hes a 6ft 8 pg....same height as shai gilgeous alexander
Emoji Bates can’t defend!! He’s a few years away…maybe.CJ McCollum gives you another undersized, backcourt!! Glad you are not our gm.
No one mentioned terrible attitude and lousy personality… we need dogs surrounding Don.
You mean like garland? Ingram is a dog. Tf
How about this?
CLE gets BI/CJ/Nance
NOP gets Garland/Allen/Merrill
BI and Garland is the starting point. The other pieces are negotiable. Garland isn't at his maximum playing without the ball. In Ingram's best two seasons (MIP/1 AS game) he took 6+ 3s/game and made 38%. The question is why he stopped shooting them. A new situation with a new coach maybe can get him shooting 3s again.
I disagree about Mitchell not being an 82 game PG. I think he played his best ball while he was doing that while Garland was out
Yes, and anyone who says differently has an agenda.
That was thing was blowing me with jb we had players on the bench that could’ve played and probably made a difference but when he benched emoni was that someone that has to play to have a feel for the game for next year
Bring in Emoni, Luke from Australia and draft a wing and let them develop and compete for the SF spot
Do that and give Isaiah Mobley some more minutes at the 3
Sounds like a losing plan SMH
@@fcdrawLol you people are insufferable
Travers is not that good bro.
@@thacryinggame fr lol
Nobody says anything about Ty Jerome he was a good shooter I think he is missing or something
Maybe.. just maybe ..... we fired the coach because he didn't get enough out of DG....... maybe... just maybe..... you let the next coach do what JB couldn't. DG is a win you missed on Spuce and Niang
According to his camp, DG will ask for a trade when Mitchell extends
No. Idiot. You’re so naive.
Bull loves grilling Mike 😅
Allen and levert for Ingram money adds up
Defense?
He’s worth more than Darius Garland
Mike is horrible
sam Merrill as the starting shooting guard
No Ingram
3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND 3ND
we gotta stop pretending mike has some great basketball knowledge lmao
He’s iffy when it comes to evaluating players but in terms of on court knowledge he knows more than most people.
@@Crackdealerfr no
DOES NOT FIT THE OFFENSE OR SPREAD THE FLOOR ENOUGH.
Lmao. But okoro does, correct?! 😂😂😂
I’m sending JA and Levert and this years first for Brandon Ingram.
I'm glad you're not the Cavs GM
@@banditY2K same I’m glad you aren’t either buddy 🤣
I want Trey Murphy or Herb Jones or either Devon Vassell or Keldon Johnson
KJ is undersized and the spurs will not trade Vassell. I’m down with herb or Murphy though.
Keep your eyes on NO... Dyson Daniels, L.Nance and #21....they also have the Lakers unprotected #1 in 2025; Cavs don't have a pick that year!
Darius garland And jarret Allen for Ingram and Jordan Hawkins straight up or garland for keldon johnson branham and 2 second round picks id do these in a heartbeat
I want Zach Collins in that deal. Back up big or a stretch 5 next to evan
@@beaks31 true I would do that to
Why would I give up both players for Ingram? No way in hell I do that. Both of those trades would be a dud. I would be a pissed off fan.
@@stevenhaymon2441 Because Mitchell and Mobley already do what they do but better and it becomes redundant that’s why we need to trade for fit this team pieces do not fit you can say JB this JB that no matter who coaches this team currently constructed they ain’t winning the chip
Garland is only 24 years old what really hurt us is Jarrett Allen being soft and not playing. I don’t understand how these so called sports experts really don’t know shitttt
Yes, he's a fit. Let's make this happen, Cavs.
He stay hurt to much
Cavs don't need to make any major moves this off season. People are overreacting to the loss last year to the Knicks and this year to the Celtics.
They just need a coach to get Garland and Mitchell to play together or at most move Garland to the bench. As for Mobley and Allen, the new coach should make Mobley take more mid range and 3 pt shots especially with Allen on the floor. If you do trade Allen you need another defensive anchor. Mobely is good but not as good as Allen as a defensive anchor.
The other thing they need is a defensive wing. They should develop Bates or Luke Travers or get a 3 and D player for cheap.
Go. Away.
Bro tell me why Rich Paul wants to get DG out of Cleveland if Donovan extends? Coach doesn't change that right
@@rumplefuorskin5980 he like many dumb Cavs fans think that a 40 year old LeBron and his nepotism draft son who shouldn't even be considered for the league would be better in Cleveland than their current starting PG.
So you think Ingram (who didn't look great this year in pels 4 playoff games avg 36 minutes to get 14-5-3...) is the answer for us in the playoffs? I'm sorry, but IDK about that one. LeBron sure would be a PERFECT fit right now though.
U going off year when he was hurt before he even got in the playoffs go to year prior when he averaged 27 7 7
@@saint520 he hasn't played a full season yet though so if he's constantly injured what is his true worth
@@rumplefuorskin5980 How many NBA players play the whole year without injuries and missing games?
@@kerrywashington4217 good point, so you think Ingram is a perfect fit?
@@rumplefuorskin5980 gotta look at it as well he on one of the worst franchises had different coach every year since his rookie year name one coach he had that still head coach right now ? Beside Willie green and ppl question his coaching skills
NO