100 AMP TO 200 AMP PANEL UPGRADE | Sunny Side Linden, NJ.
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2023
- In this video I upgrade a fairly new panel from 100 amps to 200 amps in Linden, NJ.
Classic Electric, LLC | Point Pleasant, New Jersey
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(732)-770-1437
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Ron Pecina Jr. is a licensed electrician in the state of New Jersey.
This allows him to apply for electrical permits, work with live conductors,
remove meters, and disconnect service from the utility company.
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GREAT WORK RON !!! Thanks again, will be definitely be doing more work soon !!
Any time! Thank you Roberto!
:( is there a Ron in Carbondale PA....
Great workmanship as usual. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Great job Ron!!
Your work is primo.... I really enjoy the videos because you take the time to do things right and explain what you're doing. Everything is neat and orderly. Thanks for sharing
LOVE you videos! Fun to watch. Love your comments! LOVE Gus & Gonzo! Such beautiful furbabies!
Nice install Ron. Thank you for sharing these videos.
Glad you like them!
Well done Ron! We've been doing service panel upgrades. Thank you for sharing!
Glad to help
As always fine work. Nice job thanks for making the video!
Thank you too!
Great Vid Ron...Thank You
Yes you have ! From the videos of his I have watched he is an awesome electrician. If he were in my area he would be in my phone for sure.
Love watching you work and explain what you are doing. That new service looks so clean - wish you were in the Philadelphia suburban area!
Thanks 👍
Wow! That electrical panel is like a work or art. Super clean and organized! I’m in the market for this 100 to 200 upgrade too. I have the Zinsco breakers and I’ve heard really bad things about these breakers. It’ll get replaced one of these days. Thank you for sharing.
Great work Ron you the man 💪💪
Thank you glad u enjoyed the video.
Clean install. You take pride in your work!
Thanks 👍
Do it right the first time. ⚡️⚡️⚡️💪
This is basically all we put in our new homes we do. I just bought a house that had a FPE so I replaced it with one of these. Can't beat price and availability
nice clean job as always.
I appreciate that
Always a good thing when wires are long and not short
Nice work Ron. I'm looking to have the same done to our house.
Good work! Good quality. Hopefully those QO panels work better. Square D good product typically! Thanks
Once again, it's a nice install. I wish you lived close to me. I need to have an interlock kit installed along with an input connection for my generator. I've contacted 3 electricians and only one replied. He said he was covered up, and that was in January. I contacted him a few days ago, left a voice mail, and haven't heard back. I'm in the Tupelo area if you know anyone here.
Nice channel.
Good luck getting that work done. I’d call again and remind the person you’ve called twice already. If he doesn’t call you back try to find somebody else.
I appreciate all your videos. Wondering of you'll eventually have a video on updating a fuse box to a breaker box? Thanks!
There’s not many of them around but yes of course I can do a video on that. It’s still the same concept as far as the work goes.
im buying a house in nj i guess i found my electrician 👍
Thank you! Contact info is on my homepage!
What do you charge for upgrade
You have the best quality video and narration I have watched for Electrical panel work ! You said you used the existing ground rods did you have to upsize the wire connecting them to go to 200 Amp?
The ground rod electrode conductor is required to be #6 copper and never required to be larger than that (to the ground rods only).
Super nice install! You've been a bit of an inspiration to me Ron. I went out on my own after getting my journeyman's license ( and administrators) and became a self employed contractor such as yourself. I recently got into panel change outs so this has been great to watch. I've been doing pretty much homeline panel's as replacements. You've got a lot more experience than me, and was wondering, if you recommend any better panels out there? Thanks!
Hey thanks you have to take some risks. There was a time I didn’t know how to install a standby generator. I learned by reading the manufacture specs and the code and put two together. Boom.
Beautiful work as always. Love the boys! Your woodworking/carpentry skills are in full view today 👍👍. Quick question: If upgrading from 150A service to 200A service (underground), does the feeder cables get replaced also?
Yes, 200A requires 2/0 copper or 4/0 aluminum.
Ron ,Im an Electrician up in Morris county . Exact same problem with all 200 amp Square D homeline value packs. Did a 150 no problem Qos no problem just the 200 Homeline value pack from Depot. Got to end of 12 hour change and almost thought i wouldnt even be able to get cover on. Next one i i fitted cover as soon as i took out of box to avoid surprise at end. As soon as i saw your other video where you had to clamp it i knew it was an ongoing issue. Sad because Square D was once the Cadillac. Might also be a Depot thing too. Im dreading going back into the 200 amp one because the cover was such a nightmare. This is a first for me in many years of work and is definitely a quality controll issue. I have reached out to Schneider electric but nothing really helps when you need to get power on after being off all day and the brand new panel install has a cover that dont fit . Extremely frustrating and just another thing to have to worry about when doing a job. Trusted equipment brands starting to lose reliability. In any event there a goner for me too
It’s good to know I wasn’t the only one. Although I do shop at Home Depot, this panel was from Cooper Electric. It’s a Square D HOM thing for sure.
Вот бы все люди этой профессии, были как вы 👍. И этот мир стал ещё лучше 😎
Вы по-моему и мой подписчик тоже 😄🤝🤗. В любом случае, всего Вам самого лучшего. Рон - классный парень.
@@Gruntled2001 вы правы, и ваш тоже 😉. Редко встретишь такую культуру исполнения работ как у вас Заур, так и у Рона. Душа радуется.. Спасибо
@@Gruntled2001 А может с вами можно как нибудь связаться? Email там. Есть некоторые вопросы, просто для себя. Вот например, недавно, я оставил вам комментарий под видео про сантехнику на вашем канале, с вопросом. 😈 кроется в деталях 😎
on your upgrades, have you checked out the new Leviton service panels? if not, you might want to investigate them.... Square D has always been the best, but Leviton is looking good with there new distribution panels!
great video. I'm in Union county and have been thinking of doing the same upgrade. I'll be adding an outlet for an EV, and eventually doing something with the power to the detached garage. There are some current issue to address to. What is the best way to plan out which parts to do first?
Hey Ron - great work as always. I don't mind Homeline in general - the hardware is OK by me, and breakers are readily available. I don't care for their 200A main breaker though - those things are a pain in the ass to reset, they are so tight usually
Square D has a great reputation. I was expecting a little better quality as far as the panel cover fitting on properly without having to do any persuading (if you know what I mean. This has happened a few times recently.
@@electricalronSQ D and Eaton / Cutlar Hammer aren't what the use to be on the enclosure. I suspect probably worn tooling in the sheet metal supplier and with gear being behind from even before the Chi-com flu they are just happy to get the metal box
@@vicktorpatriot1430 Cutler-Hammers are everything they’ve always been. Strong, solid material, unlike Square D.
@@electricalron I have 3 cutler hammer stainless steel disconnects that the door doesn't fit right hinges are not mounted to the cover correctly. They are not in line with each other.
Thanks for your videos I always learn something new from them, as a 4th year apprentice Im planning to change my current 1980's split bus panel to 200A Siemens PN panel, I was wondering if that meter socket in your video had its own grounding conductor or the meter can was just bonded to the Line Neutral?
Greetings from Western WA!
Glad to help
Why not add generator plug now? Beautiful work
Great install. I put in a QO panel at my house when I did my 200 amp upgrade. The holes didn’t line up on that either. Was a pain in the ass. But the plug on neutrals for the arc fault breakers are nice. Let us know what happens with that QO install.
I’ll be doing that next!
Another fantastic vid, Ron
HELP! I'm replacing an old Federal Pacific 100-amp panel with a 200-amp Square D Hameline panel, so I will need to upgrade the service entrance cable and want to use 2/0 THHN copper.
The outdoor meter can/box is mounted low, (30" off the ground at bottom edge of can) outside, so if I use the bottom rear 2-inch knockout of the meter can, it will put the hole through the wall below the bottom edge of the new breaker panel by about 8 inches, so I will have to make a vertical 90 upwards turn from hole in wall to bottom knockout of the new panel. I cannot find a 2" close 90 PVC electrical fitting so I'm guessing they don't make one.
My question is: how do I make that vertical 90 turn upwards? It will eventually be covered in drywall. Do I need to have the inside copper leads in conduit at all? If I use switch to 4/0 aluminum, do I need conduit inside the wall cavity? thanks in advance!
I'm surprised that New Jersey's version of the NEC doesn't require those awful arc fault breakers. Thanks for the video.
Only required for new builds and new circuits in existing structures.
We use #4 copper ground in North Alabama.
Well that’s a waste because #2 AL is the same as #4 copper.
Great work Ron. I am looking to upgrade my home main panel, possibly to a 200 or 225 amps panel, and was wondering about the quality differences of Square D vs. Eaton vs. Cutler Hammer, specifically regarding the aluminum vs. copper busbar options. What is your take on that? Is a copper busbar a better choice longevity wise? Should I prefer the QO (copper) over the Homeline (aluminum) Square D series? Are the Eaton or Cutler Hammer copper busbar options better than the Square D panels, quality and longevity wise?
Nice clean install you make it look easy. Maybe I missed something but is it required to have two ground rods and another grounding electrode to the water piping.
Yes.
With that line side of the meter being hot are you okay to work around it so long as you don’t touch those lugs? Could the enclosure of the meter be energized at all?
I just came across your video. Why did you choose to use aluminum for the ground instead of copper?
I was understanding the the Wholehouse Surge Protector worked best when connected closest to the Main Disconnect Breaker?
You might be right. I’ll have to read the literature again.
Was this job done before or after your van decided to lose it's cool and leave you stranded on the side of the road? Just wondering when you said you left your SE tool bag and had to go old school. Always enjoy watching your vids and love the work you do Ron. 👍
Thanks P Tso. My van broke down a few hours after leaving this guys house after patching the Sheetrock. My service bag just has specialty tools that I use when upgrading services.
@@electricalronOuch. Seems like case of the Mondays.
Can you show/explain in one of the 200amp panel upgrade videos how you check to see if the cable coming from the utility can provide 200 amp service?
That fall under the NESC (national electrical safety code). I will say this though: conductors run through free air can carry more current with a smaller conductor than conductors in a sheathed jacket like Romex or conduit.
Hey Ron what 200 amp panel would you consider to be the number one panel and second to that one thanks.
Another great job Ron. Do you suggest surge protection to your customers every time you do a panel upgrade?
It’s required. 230.67
Hi what are the name of the Romex conector and the brand
Recent 1-200a upgrade plus 50a generator inlet with panel lockout. Went from push a matic to SD Homeline. Same problem, SQUARE D is your Quality Control taking day long naps ? Or should we be looking for a more quality control conscience panel maker ! ?
Seriously good equipment horrible covers and enclosures right?
Awesome video! In my house in Bronx , NY I have one electric meter with two 100 circuit all the way at the bottom. Is this considered 200 amps or 100 amps ? My circuit tripping few times a year specially during winter month due to my tenants running to many small heaters i think
That is correct
Beautiful result. I'm curious what version of the NEC your jurisdiction is on, and your thoughts on the 2020 requirement for external emergency service disconnects. As a home owner with minimal contacts in the industry, this has been a pain in my backside. Every video online, even recent ones like this, don't show where to find products that qualify or how to install them, or whether they qualify as the main panel (impact on neutral bonding etc.). What do you think?
I have a video from last September explaining and showing how to do this. We’re under the 2020 NEC but we have a rehab sub code that allows us to skip the whole house disconnect at least until September this year.
@@electricalron I watched it, ua-cam.com/video/1Ey3Ov44Viw/v-deo.html
Do you have a link or product name/number for the disconnect you used?
Is it required in NJ to bond the copper hot water piping to the cold water piping?
I/E Put a jumper across the hot water heater cold / hot pips, this seems like a good idea particularly if an electric heater has a shorted element.
Was already done and sized correctly.
Are you willing to work in the south jersey area or can recommend someone in the 08010 area code Edgewater Park, NJ? Need to upgrade to 200 amp plus want a generator adaptor and a line run for an electric car. I see you are a Generac installer. Thanks and great videos!
Did I read somewhere that the surge protector needs to be as close to the service entrance as possible, like the first two slots? I admit I don't really know how those work.
@neil do you work in New Jersey? If not, then you’re probably unfamiliar with our Rehab sub code that DOES NOT require the exterior disconnect.
@neil I think Jersey might be on 2017 still, or just turning over to 20. But many AHJs carve out exceptions to whatever NEC they're on, you literally have to know the AHJ
Do you not need to upgrade all the breakers to afci/gfci with a new panel install?
Not here in NJ.
Do the home line arc fault/gfi breakers plug onto neutral bar or is there a neutral tail on the beaker ? Thank you
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When you put in the breakers, do you try to balance the load on each leg? Thanks!
Does not matter. It’s a single phase service.
I wish I could’ve done an upgrade on my 100 amp breaker to a 200 amp but don’t have the cash to do so,I have oil furnace and is killing me I would like to do everything electric baseboard heat..
Hey Ron Ive noticed you use your carbide hole saw to make ur kos does it work well when there are concentrics and ecentrics there ? Do u have a any problems with the hole saw chewing out the concentrics when not wanted ?
Sure I’ve had that happen before.
@@electricalron what is your solution for that issue? do u buy panels with concentrics ?
What is good budget number to plan to upgrade from 100 amp to 200 amp service time and materials?
$3500-$5000
I was wondering about the cost to upgrade a 100 to 200 amps panel in 2024.
The last time I had this done was almost 10 years ago.
$2500 or more.
Those panel covers been giving me hell
When upgrading service, do you have to run more feeders to actually use that increased amperage?
Yes, 2/0 AWG copper for 200 amps.
@@electricalron i mean from the panel into the home, not from the utility line to the panel. My electrician didnt run any new feeders into the home after doing the upgrade. Thats like a whole other project?
@@MarkoSpeaks 2/0 copper
What does a job like this cost?
Hey Ron - I am going to be upgrading my service from 150 to 200 amps shortly. The house has a well with a plastic line and most of the plumbing in the house is going to be pex. What do you do in these circumstances?
Drive two ground rods and call it a day.
Also, if it’s new then you may already have a concrete-encased electrode.
What do you charge for a 200 amp service upgrade 10 1/2 feet of conduit from weather head through meter to LB then into panel pretty straight forward panel would need to be upgraded as well
as would the meter enclosure, grounding system, permit, inspection, and.a DR if JCPL area.
@@electricalronNYC area yes as well as new meter and permits pulled
You didn't change the feed to the meter because it comes from underground and goes straight to the pole right?
Yup. Rated 200 amp.
@@electricalron is the 2/0 aluminum feeding the meter rated for 200a according to the utility's method?
@@86aoshi doesn’t matter to me because that’s the utilities responsibility.
Main breaker should be 6’ from the floor
You don’t have 6’ from floor???
What's the ballpark price of getting this service upgrade, new panel, and whole house surge protector? Can this be done for under 2 grand?
LOL you’re kidding right?
@@electricalron no, that's why I'm asking.. I'm in Kearny NJ. I got quoted at 2.5k for upgrade from 100 to 200amp service, new panel, whole house surge protector, and power back alarm. I admire and respect your work and wanted to see if I'm getting anywhere near the ballpark of craftsmanship for the money. I understand every house is different. But I'm curious about your ballpark price.. is 2.5 suspiciously low? Should I expect to pay 6? 7k? I think it's a fair question to ask for a ballpark..
how far north you travel?..clifton nj?
I don’t travel north if I-78.
What is the cost of something like This I’m putting a garage with a bonus room above and I want to upgrade my panel to 200 amps
Also I want to add a generator hook up as well
In NJ $3500-$5000
where is your surge protector? code?
NEC 230.85
Do you take work in Old Bridge NJ? Is it takes long time to get permit?
The DCA allows building departments 20 days to approve a permit application. And yes I do work in Old Bridge.
@@electricalron I subscribed to your channel. I'm looking to move soon and will call you for consultation. Thank you
So the service wires to the meter didn't need to be upgraded?
The utility approved the existing conductors. They were 4/0 aluminum and 200 amp meter.
Why wouldn’t the homeowner do the upgrade a few years ago when putting in a new panel? Seems like a marginal cost to put in a 200 amp panel even if you only need 100 amp service. Do it once.
Can you tell me the average cost to upgrade from 100 to a 200
$3000-5000
Thanx for the reply, i really appreciate it. Im up near Boston, MA, where everything seems to be expensive and I got a price of 4300. Thats also with grounding it with 2 rods. I Just found out the house isn't grounded. So I guess i'll do this upgraded next month.
What’s a job like this cost ?
How much do you think?
I have knob and tube, need replacement. Need a video? Ha. Seriously tho. I’m in Cranford. I need electrical work.
You should call or text me on Tuesday. Thank you.
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Why cant the #6 grnd wire come in the side of panel?
That circuit at 8:33, what is it exactly powering? It seemed like it was hooked up to the panel and then just capped off?
Like I explained in the video, that home run went into the top of the old panel (from the side) and for the new panel it was in the way. By adding the junction box I was able to extend the home run and enter the panel from the bottom.
Hey Ron will there be one medical license that will cover all 50 states no matter what state one receive his or her
whoops wrong information ron