thank you for sharing David I found it very Interesting. As a Veteran and a gun collector my self (I have an original 1865-1875 Sharps Rifle in 40-90Bn ) too see some of the fantastic firearms you own and shoot is very humbling. I hope you get all you want for this pistol and then some.
Hi Aaron ; Thanks for the reply. I also have a original Sharps. It's a 1865 carbine that was a factory metallic cartridge conversion to 50-70 in 1867. I've carried deer hunting a few times but so far haven't harvested anything with it. I've had better luck with my Springfield 1873 rifle in 45-70 thou. Ain't nothing better than shooting a 100 plus year old gun. David
I had the pleasure in speaking to David for a few hours this evening, and found out many details were left out of the Lost episode on the History Channel. If anyone out there has the money to purchase such a pistol, it would be worth your while to contact him.
Who do you use to restore these firearms? I’m looking to find a place to restore an original 1851 colt London model that was converted to 38 rimfire. I’d like to get her back to shooting as I’ve got a kit for reloading 38 rimfire
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again. Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
This is unbelievable to me, you have Jesse James gun? That is so cool. I love learning about all types of history but the American West era is so intriguing to me.
Yeah and he “shoots the hell out of it” because why not add his stupid ass to its history. “Shot by Jesse James, but mostly shot by some fat cowboy action shooting self-important fool that takes his play time too seriously.” Honestly it’s morons like this that ruin much of history. I’ll just grab some of my antiques and add to their history by f’ing them up. Why not? I mean I own them now, no matter how they got to me. Brilliant shit
This is very well put together and very good research I would like to know if there has been any additional information that you have found out about this gun
I got a letter from Smith & Wesson and they said they are considering making the Schofield again. I wrote them a letter they should make Singel Action revolvers to compete againts Ruger and Colt in Cowboy Action Shooting. They wrote back it could happen in further.
I watched the video on History Channel and at the beginning you mentioned you had thoroughly inspected the piece to learn if it was safe to fire, and it was not mentioned if you did or did not ever fire the piece. 1 ) Did you ever fire this Schofield ? 2 ) Does this Schofield chamber a .45 caliber cartridge ?
I've shot the pistol around 500 times. But only 100 times since the signature on the grips proved to be Jesse's I've let several of my friends shoot it. I reload my own shells for it in 45 caliber Schofield with smokeless powder.
That is just so cool. I'm surprised the original auction place where the gun was acquired didn't take the grips off and see the blood.(I always take grips off, etc., any used revolver or pistol I buy just to check it out, ya know? Curiosity of my new acquisition.) Also, I'm wondering why there are so many signatures on the inside of the grips? Even without the historical prominence that is one nice revolver for the age...better than any ol' Uberti!!! Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your find. Has this gun ever been featured in American Rifleman, by chance? Jeff T., Pittsburgh, PA USA
I contacted the auction house and since I wasn't the original purchaser and the sale happened before they went to storing every thing on a computer. They couldn't help me or remember the sale so they were no help. Copies was exactly what I was after. This is the purpose of this video. To find the person who owned this prior to the year 2000. Or the person that owns the picture I showed in the video or any one else that is a real expert , not an alcohol induced expert, like I've had to put up with . Thank you for your response. David
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
As a blood relative of the James family, congratulations! I watched the show on TV but just stumbled upon this video. Thanks! Really historical. Now Please find Custer's Falling block rifle and if anybody can that's you. Happy shooting! Again, thanks, David.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I just saw your reply while cleaning my computer. No jealousy, it's the biggest mystery out there in the gun collecting world, my friend! Let's be honest Hugh, wouldn't you like to find that rifle? It's gotta be out there. You may be the one to come across it, if you did, I would be the first to congratulate you...Happy Hunting!
@@robertscheinost179 My reply was directed at some idiot named Jo Wilkish, who has since deleted his comment, which if I remember was quite derogatory towards you.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Thanks for the info, Hugh. I remember that comment. His ancestor was supposedly killed by my ancestor, like we choose our ancestors! He told me to go to Hell and I responded by telling him to F himself. Thanks for the clarification!
Sir you are a rare breed, I'm extremely happy this gun landed in your hands. People are always going to be jealous and say mean things. You did a great job in this video and I am a fan. Have a blessed day brother.
I’m not jealous or drunk but why the hell would you shoot the hell out of that gun? You’re not adding to its history, you are taking away from it since you are not a legend like Jesse James. We don’t buy famous antique swords and practice cuts with them. Using these old guns is destructive, as you damn well know, and if you are shooting the hell out of it, that’s a damn shame, sir. I hope I misunderstood something because I have no problem shooting old guns but not ones with provenance. I could see shooting a few times but to treat is as you would any tool is ignorant and callous.
@@jimjohn9041 What an asshole! You have a problem with shooting a gun with provenance but you don't OWN this gun so why are YOU giving the OWNER a hard way to go? Maybe you're not drunk or jealous so what is your beef with someone does legally with his possessions? Head case, perhaps??? Mr. Baumann does not need your advice on what he should or should not do.
@@jimjohn9041 it doesn't belong to you He can melt it and make a horse shoe with it if he wanted to, but no, he is sharing it with us. You sir are a Tool lol
David have you had any updates on the gun as any other info or DNA Testing on the grips. A really great story as I grew up in Kansas city MO. have been to just about every Jesse James museum. from Missouri to Kansas.. please let us know either in another video or a response. would love to hear... thanks for a great story which I find to be very true based on evidence you have produce...
I am pretty sure I have the last pistol Jessie carried. My great grandfather bought it from Frank James before he passed. It was an 1860 Colt and still shoots great.
I watched you on that episode truly amazing .when I saw this vidio I remembered the show .it's amazing your a Lucky guy and glad u shoot some .I wouldn't shoot that one but glad u do the others
Thankyou, Mr. Dave Baumann, for showing Jesse James's, Smith and Wesson scofield, on You Tube. I also want to thankyou, for the interesting narrative, and your opinion what really occurred, when James was shot by Bob Ford, I believe it were in a rented house outside of St.Joseph, Mo. Anyway I wish you well !!! , and may you get final confirmation on the blood DNA on the scofield revolver of Jesse's. Kevin Phoenix
My Dad had a Merwin and Hubert 3rd model Frontier in 44-40 back In the 60's. I like it because of how it was manufactured it is a very cool revolver but all that machining is probably what put um out of business. Could the blood have come from one of the wounded gang members after the Northfield Minnesota raid.
As to the Merwin & Hulberts. Since I own 3 and shoot all of them. They probably went out of business for poor sales. You have to understand that all cartridges back then were loaded with black powder. Black powder is a very dirty burning powder. These Merwins $Hulberts were built like a fine tuned watch. Very little tolerance when clean. I shoot my own reloads using much cleaner smokeless powder and in as many as 30 shots fired these guns start having problems rotating the cylinder because they are dirty and need to be cleaned. I can not imagine how fast using black powder will gum them up and case the not to function correctly. We haven't even gotten into blowing dirt that the frontier had plenty of. And as to the statement about the blood coming from the North Field raid I'm going to say no. This raid happened in 1876 and the Schofield was invented in 1875 with almost all of them going to the US Army. I don't think Jesse or his gang could have gotten their hands on any of them until 1878 when the Army sold them off as surplus.
David, I am researching Jesse James for my Year 12 Research Project. So far I am struggling to find sources and get interviews as it is part of the requirements. I can’t seem to find any of Jesse’s descendants and I was hoping I could get in contact with you and discuss anything you know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, Aaron
David, a remarkable journey and a well told story of your journey. You hold a key piece of the history of the American West. Enjoyed this engaging video. Maureen
It's 405 816- 1340 Call after 10am or late in the afternoon. I usually stay up until 1am most nights central time. I look forward to hearing from you. David
I know I've posted it but here it is again 405 816- 1340. Don't wait too long to call. The National Cowboy Hall of Fame is interested in exhibiting it in their museum. They are looking for funding to pay for the insurance amount I requested to put it on loan for an exhibit.
As if, everyone else get’s to see this video before we do! It’s our history! I will now forever remember this when I watch the history channel! I now have a whole different outlook on these programs! And will now know possible most of the rest of the world has seen the program before I was watching it! Thanks for the final analysis, and I think you might possibly be correct with your final analysis! Thanks for the video!
Thanks; I found it after you posted this. The History Channel finally released it to the public for free viewing. They were charging $2.99 per episode unless you had cable tv and knew your password.
I'm jessie James's 4th cousin. At least I wouldve been. We have his birth certificate and several pictures and documents of him. My great grandfather was his great grandson. We had one of his revolvers. But a fire destroyed our house and everything with it. All we have now is a few documents and pictures of him as a child and one of the original wanted sheets with his picture. I'm proud to see u have one of his guns. If only my great grandfather told us the location of his treasure. I'd be happy to give it away.
I would like to see your proof of these claims. If youre his great grand sons great grandson: a. That would not make you his fourth cousin but a direct decendant. B. That is too many generations that dont exist
Yeah right my man Jesse ain’t have to girl with the name Chesser, I myself rode with billy after his fled to New Mexico from Arizona and the regulators after awhile
If your great grandfather was his great grandson rhat would make him your great great great great grandfather or more. That doss not add up with when jesse james was born. Sorry. Your family lied to you or you have it wrong.
I'm jesse james 73rd cousin! I have a ubertti Schofield with his initials stamped in the frame! You can own this amazing piece of history. I accept paypal!
There's some interesting and compelling things about this pistol...based on what I see in this video. I would love to see the questioned settled definitively. I hope it is proven to be Jesse's, but whatever the truth may be, let it be revealed. While, if it were his and present at his death, it's possible that his wife grabbed it with bloody hands, that is just a theory at this point...and that's using a theory to support an unproven conclusion. I would focus (first priority) on getting the blood tested by someone equipped to do so on older blood, THEN we can figure out how his blood got there...if it's his. As for the video, overall, I enjoyed it, although I am one of those who can only afford reproductions of the guns of the day. The sport of Cowboy Action shooting isn't unlike my old hobby of reenacting mounted Confederate Cavalry. In reenacting, there exists subsets and cliques, rife with snobbery and disdain for those they deem less authentically equipped and less historically correct.....though those snobs ride to these events in gasoline automobiles, benefit from and/or carry on their persons modern medical marvels that are certainly inauthentic. The point is, we don't live in the 19th Century. We aren't 19th Century people. Your 120 year old guns don't look like they did 120 years ago when So & So used them in the day. Now they look like antiques. The ones they used looked more like today's new reproductions in their day, so from a point of appearances, using well worn originals looks inauthentic. There's nothing wrong with preferring originals, but there's also nothing wrong with reproductions. There are a LOT of good folks who love the history and the guns who can only afford to get their little piece of it with reproductions. Those are my people...God bless them. Best of luck to you, sir, in the quest for authentication of that pistol.
plowboysghost his blood got there by his wife.. She ran and grabbed his pistol and Ford was already out the door before she could shoot him...Then went to Jesse and got the blood on her hands and then on the pistol grips
Fascinating!!! I’ve probably watch all of Jesse James movies. He’s the luckiest man on earth. I wouldn’t sell that gun for nothing. One thing I never knew was the caliber.
Fantastic story! I am 65 years old, I am Brazilian and I live in the south of Brazil, in the city of Porto Alegre. I am passionate about the history of the Wild West. Its heroes, sheriffs and outlaws and also habits, the achievement so difficult and sacrificed. I research a lot about the lives of Jesse James, Billy The Kid, Wyatt Earp, Will Bill Hickock, Calamity Jane, Butch Cassidy, Doc Holiday, Pat Garret and others who built the beautiful history of the American West. Cinema does not always faithfully portray real events, using fiction and stabbing history. In the film The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (where Brad Pitt plays Jesse and Casey Affleck the Ford), Jesse presents Bob with an S&W Schofield and, ironically, was the weapon used by Bob Ford to murder him. Did this really happen or was it invented by the film's director? When Jesse takes off his belt with the revolvers before climbing on the chair to clean the dust off the painting, it gives the impression that he wants to be killed. (my opinion before the scene). In the film, Jesse faced a very strong emotional crisis, constantly living in remorse for the life he led. Did he know that Ford would kill him if he had a chance and then made it easy? What do you, who have a lot of knowledge about the life of Jesse James, think of my theory? I have two S&W Schofield CO2, 4.5mm, from ASG, (Steel Gray and Aging Black, the latter with wooden grips that I made myself). I also have an 1875 Remington. On my channel Airguns & Airsofts comment on issues pertaining to the Wild West and its protagonists. I really liked your video. You have the story in your hands! Its explanation is detailed and precise. Even with my English which is not very good, I managed to understand the content. Congratulations! You won a channel subscriber. I will follow the materials, which are like going back in time. They say that "hugs" are not sent to Americans, that this type of treatment is not used. Well, here in Brazil, suits as a habit, send hugs as a form of friendship, so ... Big hug!
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
Bob ford. A member of his own gang shot him in the back of the head while fixing a picture on the wall. He knew there wasn’t a chance in hell he would’ve defeated him on his own
A good number of famous Old West gunfighters met their end by being ambushed or shot from behind. 'Wild Bill Hickok', John Wesley Hardin, Virgil Earp (survived), Morgan Earp, and Jesse James. Not many were killed in a heroic Hollywood-style face-off because such things rarely ever happened. It's the same thing today as it was then... killers tend to only kill their victims when they have the advantage of surprise.
Mate if you contact Forgotten gun's and get into there ear about that gun they just might be able to help you out . They have modern equipment buddy . Great story you got there and lots of beautiful and really cool gun's. I reckon it's JJ's gun mate . Great stuff
Happy to see all of Jesse James family in the comments. What number is still available? I didn’t see 12th cousin. I’ll take that. I’m Jesse James 12th cousin!
Your collection is pricless alone in my opinion. Jessies gun is awesome and I would put it on display for the world to see. I think it could make millions of dollars just to get to see it in real life. Thank you for the video her and yes I watched the tv show when it came out and TV is bad about half truthes.
appreciating is one thing. shooting them in competition is another . These guns have served their time and belong in a museum or collection . I just can't get behind the knowing destruction of rare antiques . I mean he is shooting the Jesse James pistol and with every shot he is actively making the gun worth less and putting wear and tear on historic items for no good reason . I wish shooting these old guns was not doing that but it is and what in the heck is he doing shooting the gun Jesse James signed in the first place?
jesusoftheapes as far as I’m concerned ther his he bought them and he is a cowboy shooter I would shoot them to ther his I’m sure the black powder he loads into these is not that string to wreck them like I say he paid for them might as well use them as look at them
I saw the UA-cam video of you and the pistol in Dallas .I have a feeling that Jessie has the pistol and was using it in the war . and got shot and got the blood on the grip's from his own hands .if you think about it it makes sense as well .I hope you find out the real story behind that blood in the pistol . good luck with your quest and keeping James history alive .
Jesse used cap and ball revolvers during the Civil War. Modern cartridge firing guns weren't available until 1873. The Schofield didn't come out until 1875 so there is no way he got blood on it from the war as you put it. I had already checked on if Jesse had ever been wounded between 1875 until his death in 1882 had history shows he was never wounded between this time period.
@@davidbaumann8683 well shoot I was wrong with my thinking . If the grip's from a cap and ball pistol don't fit a Schofield pistol .then his wife had to gotten the blood on the grip's .
GOOD eye, Yes this Sheriff's model has a latger than normal trigger guard. The serial number on the trigger guard does not match the frame. I do not know who changed it. It was like this when I acquired the gun 30 years ago.
@@davidbaumann8683 .Even though R.L. Wilson wa fraud, his books have great pictures and in one of them is one or two Colt SAAs with extra large triggerguards not related to a Bisley's. I wonder if the one on your gun is one of those. I read somewhere that John Wayne's gun had such a t'guard but I never seen it on film.
Just saw the show that was on 'Found' Why Hopefully, near future DNA advancements will be able to verify that this was indeed Jesse's blood and this was definitely the gun he had one hit when he was killed like you suspected. Thanks for posting such a fascinating story and best of luck. Any updates, please post them !
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
Man, it was in Western OK? My father's side of the family is from there, specifically Colony and Corn Oklahoma. Damn. Schofields are cool for sure, especially when owned by J.James and worn when he died. However, those Merwin and Hulberts are the BEST of the era in my opinion.
Jesse removed his pistols, prior to being shot by Robert Ford.How did so much blood manage to get on his pistol, when he wasn't wearing his two pistols that he wore in a shoulder holster?
Not to discredit the authenticity of your pistol, the James signature seems authentic, but there's another pistol (same model) that has provenance going back to Jesse James Jr. and that one is said to be the one of the two Jesse had when he was killed. The Colt 45 mentioned is also one of the guns that belonged to Jesse Jr. Your pistol may have been one of who knows how many guns Jesse owned at one time or another but I don't think it's the one of the two that Mrs James claimed he had in the house. You have a fantastic pistol none the less.
Hi; Thanks for responding to my video about my pistol. I've owned it for over 16 years and have recearched it and all S&W Schofiels's belonging to any James Gang member to the best of my abililty in depth. Here is what you might not know and you can check it out your self. Jesse Jr. was only 7 or 8 when his father Jesse James was assinated. Jesse wife Zee died penneyless. She had a auction and sold off Jesses James items including Jesse's dog to make ends meet to support Jesse's 2 chldren. When Jesse Jr. was around 20 or so. He put together a shadow box containing several guns. (about 11 I believe) that he showed to the public for .25 cents. The Colt 45 from this shadow box went to auction and got no bids. The reason being the serial number on that Colt shows the gun wasn't even made until over 6 months after Jesse James was assinated. There for speculation suggest that Jesse Jr. just thought he had his daddies guns. I personally have seen and shook hands with Jesse James great great grandson. The closest living link to Jesse James. I know alot of facts about Jesse that are too numerous to type here. I've made my phone number public . Give me a call. Your are correct in one thing. I'm shur Jesse James owned several guns in the span of his short but deadly life. But this one has his signature 5 times on the inside of the blood stained grips.
It was on Sr, most likely had it when injured or assassinated. I need to finish my DA brace...and get some Merwins. That and your Sheriffs mod are sweet :O
@@danielblackburn1241 You need to look on the internet a little deeper . The colt 45 your talking about was estimated to fetch 1.6 million but it did not get a single bid. It's there right on the internet. Or you can call Rock Island auction and ask them. Do you want their phone number. I have it in my phone. Annie Oakley's double barrel shot gun sold for 293,000.. And a Wild Bill gun also didn't sale. This auction was on 11-24-2013. You need to get your facts strait before you start running off at the mouth.
Hi David I too have a Jesse James gun. The gun was documented by the man who set up the Jesse James Museum in Kearney Missouri all the provenance is in the Jesse James Museum archives. It's a 32 Caliber boot gun he got when he was in Quantrell Raiders during the Civil War I have never taken the grips off the gun I'd like to talk to you when you can I'll tell you the whole story then
Let me guess what type of boot pistol you have. I'd guess it's a Smith and Wesson number 2 , 32cal rim fire with a tip up barrel. Go ahead and get a screw driver and take the grips off. It's pretty easy. Hope you find something under there. Anyway on your pistol, to confirm it could have belonged to Jesse you need to identify what the pistol is then check the seril number with the factory archives to see what year the gun was manufactured.
Amazing , Mr. Baumann ! I'd say you got it right on the blood stains, seems odd that there would be five signatures on the grips, though.....I know that these boys would be proud of their guns that kept them alive, maybe that was the reason or maybe Jesse was superstitious and wanted the gang's signatures on the grips of a gun that had ivory grips to bring them luck, must have been an expensive gun for the times. Very interesting story. By the way I have heard that Jesse's family came from Madison Co. , WNC, can you verify that ?
I've owned this gun for over 20 years and pawn stars hasn't been around that long and I've never taken it to pawn stars. So you have not seen this gun on pawn stars. Now that that's cleared up this gun has been on the History channel;s show Found Outlaws and Aliens that aired on tv about 5 years ago. Maybe that's were you saw it.
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct..... I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
About DNA testing, they can go back so much more than 75 years depending of which of the three main methods is used. We are talking about tens of thousands of years. A great story though. Merwin & Hulbert went out of business around 1880-1881. That Merwin & Hulbert president you spoke to must have been quite old.... Perhaps you spoke to Michael Blank? Blank had plans to reintroduce the revolvers 2010 but made on modern machinery with modern materials. That venture were later bought in 2012 by the Sharps Rifle Company but that never bore any fruit. The rest of theses stories IS hard to be sure about. Sounds exiting though. Great collection of guns!!! Are you not afraid of them blowing up by the hard use you give them or do you use very light loads?
They get DNA that is thousands of years old out of bone marrow, not blood. And that name Michael Blank sound familiar. He might be the guy I talked too. I checked my cell phone phone number listing before I replied to this but didn't find the name and the phone number of the guy I talked to. But my old cell phone died last year and I lost over 500 phone numbers I had stored in it. I reload my own shells with smokeless powder and yes they are real light loads equal to a light load 38 special at 600 feet per second
@@briggie27 That's stupid because they said they can use DNA from a dinosaur flesh to try and clone another. They just don't want to do the DNA test on the grips because they are lazy and don't want to search up old cowboys
I'm pretty sure my grandpa's dad knew jesse james cuz there's this really old picture in my grandpa's room of my great grandpa and every time I ask about it he acts like he didn't hear anything
There is no way I would shoot this weapon, especially if the Main Spring is wearing and rubbing the inside signature of the Ivory grip. It should be bagged and sealed and kept until DNA research has improved... just my humble opinion. Thanks , great video and interesting story. You need to get that documentation on the weapon that you were originally promised.
I have to agree. As much fun as it is to shoot it, if it really is Jesse's gun then it's a historical artifact and a national treasure. Imagine owning the Derringer that Booth used to kill Lincoln, and shooting the snot out of it until something broke. Mr. Baumann is lucky to own something like this, but he has a moral responsibility to be its caretaker and help preserve it for posterity.
Yes, I was superposed to get the documentation from the guy I bought the gun from. But when he received it weeks later from the auction house he bought it from, he kept it and kept trying to buy the gun back from me for twice what I paid him for the gun. I wouldn't sell because I had discovered the signatures in the grips. He died and I didn't even know he had received the documentation from the auction house until he had been died for over 1 year. 3 of his closest friends knew about it but they weren't superposed to let me know he had it. He never even told his family members about it so after he passed, if they didn't know what it was it got tossed in the dumpster. The purpose of this video is me reaching out to the person that had the pistol and the documentation that put it in the auction. I'm hoping they kept copies of it and will get in-touch with me. This is why my phone number is listed on the screen.
You definitely have done your homework on it, so I salute you for that. Do you know how many auctioneers and sellers have claimed over the years that their pistol was owned by "fill in the blank" Old West celebrity? Do you know how many reported Hickok guns are out there? Bonnie and Clyde guns? And anyone can fake a signature on the grip, especially if that photo and signature were well known. Let us say the signature is original to the pistol and was not added at a later date. It is highly probable that another person with the first or last name of "James" could have owned a Smith and Wesson Revolver. I have been collecting antique firearms for 30 years and the reported "blood stains" from Jesse James under the grips make the provenance LESS believable. As others have discussed in the comment section below, it could be blood, but the chances are very slim that it is a Jesse James revolver AND is covered in Jesse's OWN blood. If something is too good to be true, it usually is.
Hi Todd B. Great responce amd Thank you. I've owned this gun for over 16 years now and have spent may hours doing my home work on it. I have been collecting old guns for over 40 years now and collect only guns made prior to 1910. Over there years I've leaned what blood does to guns if not whiped and oiled shortly after it gets on them. It pits the heck out of them. When I pried the grips off this gun I freaked out with the chunks of blood that fell out and the deep pitting of the frame of the pistol. So I knew it was blood. The stains have been tested 3 times in a lab and prove it's blood. Anyway the signature on the grips are the same signature that is on the picture of Jesse James and the other signatures accredited to Jesse James. The ink used on the signature is the type used in that time period and has changed to the color that this type of ink changes after 125 years of age. Anyway I have lots of information that wasn't disclosed in this short video. Fell free to call me at 405 816-1340 and I'll go in depth with you about every thing at this is the real deal. David Baumann
Yep, and none of them have ever sold that I know of. That Colt SAA, the most documented Jesse Jame gun ever, had a serial number showing that it was made 6 months after he was killed. I spotted that immeadly becase I have lettered all my old guns and had one that lettered after Jesse was killed , but before that gun was ever made. I understand your skeptisom but that is why there are forensic document examers now days and that their testamony is believed by judges. And the History channel got one of the best ones in Texas. I have the noterized document stating that she will testafy in court that the same person that signed that picture is the same person that signed these grips.. As for the blood, I never stated that it's proven that it's Jesse James blood. I just believe that it is. It's a whole lot of blood. Not just a shaving nick. It is proven that it is blood, in 3 seperate test. Old blood at that. But I have to believe what a licenced board certified forensic document examiner says. The law says so. That is why I'm so open about what is proven as facts and the purpose of this youtube video. I'm trying to find Professional certified people out there willing to look at the 5 signatures and a credited DNA labs that wants to try to prove or disaprove the blood stains. Thank you for your reply. Call me. You sound like the kinda guy I like to talk to. David 405 816-1340
On my mothers side her grandfather which is my great grandfather his mother was directly related to him. Btw frank and him both were part of the golden ccircle. We have the patch and pendent from his belongings.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
Do you know the story about Cole Younger's pistol. If it is the same pistol, he got shot during a bank robbery with Jesse and he dropped the gun in the street. After the shooting died down, the local druggist ran out there and got it.
Thank you for keeping gun history alive.
Your welcome
Just watched the History Channel show Found that featured your gun. I was so excited for you. I love history.
AWESOME!!! I am a cowboy action shooter but shoot reproductions. You sir are an inspiration.
thank you for sharing David I found it very Interesting. As a Veteran and a gun collector my self (I have an original 1865-1875 Sharps Rifle in 40-90Bn ) too see some of the fantastic firearms you own and shoot is very humbling. I hope you get all you want for this pistol and then some.
Hi Aaron ; Thanks for the reply. I also have a original Sharps. It's a 1865 carbine that was a factory metallic cartridge conversion to 50-70 in 1867. I've carried deer hunting a few times but so far haven't harvested anything with it. I've had better luck with my Springfield 1873 rifle in 45-70 thou. Ain't nothing better than shooting a 100 plus year old gun. David
I had the pleasure in speaking to David for a few hours this evening, and found out many details were left out of the Lost episode on the History Channel. If anyone out there has the money to purchase such a pistol, it would be worth your while to contact him.
Who do you use to restore these firearms? I’m looking to find a place to restore an original 1851 colt London model that was converted to 38 rimfire. I’d like to get her back to shooting as I’ve got a kit for reloading 38 rimfire
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again.
Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
This is unbelievable to me, you have Jesse James gun? That is so cool. I love learning about all types of history but the American West era is so intriguing to me.
Yeah and he “shoots the hell out of it” because why not add his stupid ass to its history. “Shot by Jesse James, but mostly shot by some fat cowboy action shooting self-important fool that takes his play time too seriously.” Honestly it’s morons like this that ruin much of history. I’ll just grab some of my antiques and add to their history by f’ing them up. Why not? I mean I own them now, no matter how they got to me. Brilliant shit
He shoots it because it's worthless. It's not Jesse's, it has no provenance, it's a bad story with no evidence.
Wow -- what an amazing collection! Thanks for sharing with us, David.
This is very well put together and very good research I would like to know if there has been any additional information that you have found out about this gun
This is so awesome, congratulations. RIP Jesse James
I got a letter from Smith & Wesson and they said they are considering making the Schofield again. I wrote them a letter they should make Singel Action revolvers to compete againts Ruger and Colt in Cowboy Action Shooting. They wrote back it could happen in further.
Pro tip: watch movies at flixzone. Me and my gf have been using them for watching a lot of movies during the lockdown.
@Jase Arturo Yup, have been using Flixzone for since december myself =)
He was an evil man who killed many innocent people
Has there been any update on the blood on the grips? Did it just die off?
You have no idea how much I enjoyed this.
Thanks for this video. I saw the episode when it first aired.
I watched the video on History Channel and at the beginning you mentioned you had thoroughly inspected the piece to learn if it was safe to fire, and it was not mentioned if you did or did not ever fire the piece.
1 ) Did you ever fire this Schofield ?
2 ) Does this Schofield chamber a .45 caliber
cartridge ?
I've shot the pistol around 500 times. But only 100 times since the signature on the grips proved to be Jesse's I've let several of my friends shoot it. I reload my own shells for it in 45 caliber Schofield with smokeless powder.
I've shot it hard and fast just like it was intended to be shot in 1875. I've run over 500 rounds threw it.
did you ever manage to get the documentation?
That is just so cool. I'm surprised the original auction place where the gun was acquired didn't take the grips off and see the blood.(I always take grips off, etc., any used revolver or pistol I buy just to check it out, ya know? Curiosity of my new acquisition.) Also, I'm wondering why there are so many signatures on the inside of the grips? Even without the historical prominence that is one nice revolver for the age...better than any ol' Uberti!!! Very interesting video. Thank you for sharing your find. Has this gun ever been featured in American Rifleman, by chance? Jeff T., Pittsburgh, PA USA
As interesting as this story is .....
great story and find, did you ever get the paperwork from the guy you purchased the gun from after he died?
He explained that in the beginning
Have you tried to retrace the steps of the documentation from the auction house back as far as you can? Maybe someone made copies along the way.
I contacted the auction house and since I wasn't the original purchaser and the sale happened before they went to storing every thing on a computer. They couldn't help me or remember the sale so they were no help. Copies was exactly what I was after. This is the purpose of this video. To find the person who owned this prior to the year 2000. Or the person that owns the picture I showed in the video or any one else that is a real expert , not an alcohol induced expert, like I've had to put up with . Thank you for your response. David
This was an awesome video to watch. Congratulations Sir, on your impressive firearms and especially Jesse James's pistol..
I would really like to know did you ever have Jesse’s revolver appraised? Do you know how much the revolver is worth today?
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
As a blood relative of the James family, congratulations! I watched the show on TV but just stumbled upon this video. Thanks! Really historical. Now Please find Custer's Falling block rifle and if anybody can that's you. Happy shooting! Again, thanks, David.
@@jowilkish7895 Sounds like you're a bit jealous there, bud.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I just saw your reply while cleaning my computer. No jealousy, it's the biggest mystery out there in the gun collecting world, my friend! Let's be honest Hugh, wouldn't you like to find that rifle? It's gotta be out there. You may be the one to come across it, if you did, I would be the first to congratulate you...Happy Hunting!
@@robertscheinost179 My reply was directed at some idiot named Jo Wilkish, who has since deleted his comment, which if I remember was quite derogatory towards you.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Thanks for the info, Hugh. I remember that comment. His ancestor was supposedly killed by my ancestor, like we choose our ancestors! He told me to go to Hell and I responded by telling him to F himself. Thanks for the clarification!
@@thatsmrharley2u2 But if you do ever run into Custer's Remington rolling block rifle, I would be the first to say congrats! Thanks again, Hugh.
I have some S&W's 1st and 3rd models...
How much did you spend getting all that ? Testings,profesional certifications and reserch?
On Colts it about 300 bucks per gun. On the S7W's it was about 45 at the time. I haven't recherched one in 15 years so the price might have went up
Hi man. It's Ted from Texas here. It's a beautiful gun my friend. Enjoy it.
Magnificent .one of my favorites..reminds me of a western series back in 72."alias smith N jones".
Damm
Sir you are a rare breed, I'm extremely happy this gun landed in your hands. People are always going to be jealous and say mean things. You did a great job in this video and I am a fan. Have a blessed day brother.
Thank you for your comment. You are correct about what jealous or drunk people have replied to me on this piece of history.
@@davidbaumann8683 That's a damn shame.
I’m not jealous or drunk but why the hell would you shoot the hell out of that gun? You’re not adding to its history, you are taking away from it since you are not a legend like Jesse James. We don’t buy famous antique swords and practice cuts with them. Using these old guns is destructive, as you damn well know, and if you are shooting the hell out of it, that’s a damn shame, sir. I hope I misunderstood something because I have no problem shooting old guns but not ones with provenance. I could see shooting a few times but to treat is as you would any tool is ignorant and callous.
@@jimjohn9041 What an asshole! You have a problem with shooting a gun with provenance but you don't OWN this gun so why are YOU giving the OWNER a hard way to go? Maybe you're not drunk or jealous so what is your beef with someone does legally with his possessions? Head case, perhaps??? Mr. Baumann does not need your advice on what he should or should not do.
@@jimjohn9041 it doesn't belong to you
He can melt it and make a horse shoe with it if he wanted to, but no, he is sharing it with us. You sir are a Tool lol
David have you had any updates on the gun as any other info or DNA Testing on the grips.
A really great story as I grew up in Kansas city MO. have been to just about every Jesse James museum. from Missouri to Kansas..
please let us know either in another video or a response. would love to hear... thanks for a great story which I find to be very true based on evidence you have produce...
I am pretty sure I have the last pistol Jessie carried. My great grandfather bought it from Frank James before he passed. It was an 1860 Colt and still shoots great.
Highly unlikely.
@@jdd1979 Jealousy becomes you.
@@spiritualawakenings6251 some people don't understand these guns had to end up somewhere with someone
@@danielblackburn1241 And thankfully it was me.
Is the weapon "blued", or tarnished nickel?
Thank You
Nickel plated with lots of nickel missing
@@davidbaumann8683 Thank You; What is the length of the barrel?
@@davidbaumann8683 what size barrel?
It's old flaking off nickel plating winch is very common with over 100 year old nickle.
Beautiful pistol. I also watched the history Channel about this pistol.
Awesome find . What a piece of history.
I watched you on that episode truly amazing .when I saw this vidio I remembered the show .it's amazing your a Lucky guy and glad u shoot some .I wouldn't shoot that one but glad u do the others
What a superb story , thank you. Any news on the provenance yet?
Hello from Florida love your collection
Thankyou, Mr. Dave Baumann, for showing Jesse James's, Smith and Wesson scofield, on You Tube. I also want to thankyou, for the interesting narrative, and your opinion what really occurred, when James was shot by Bob Ford, I believe it were in a rented house outside of St.Joseph, Mo. Anyway I wish you well !!! , and may you get final confirmation on the blood DNA on the scofield revolver of Jesse's. Kevin Phoenix
My Dad had a Merwin and Hubert 3rd model Frontier in 44-40 back In the 60's. I like it because of how it was manufactured it is a very cool revolver but all that machining is probably what put um out of business. Could the blood have come from one of the wounded gang members after the Northfield Minnesota raid.
As to the Merwin & Hulberts. Since I own 3 and shoot all of them. They probably went out of business for poor sales. You have to understand that all cartridges back then were loaded with black powder. Black powder is a very dirty burning powder. These Merwins $Hulberts were built like a fine tuned watch. Very little tolerance when clean. I shoot my own reloads using much cleaner smokeless powder and in as many as 30 shots fired these guns start having problems rotating the cylinder because they are dirty and need to be cleaned. I can not imagine how fast using black powder will gum them up and case the not to function correctly. We haven't even gotten into blowing dirt that the frontier had plenty of. And as to the statement about the blood coming from the North Field raid I'm going to say no. This raid happened in 1876 and the Schofield was invented in 1875 with almost all of them going to the US Army. I don't think Jesse or his gang could have gotten their hands on any of them until 1878 when the Army sold them off as surplus.
Man this made my night, your guns are beautiful, they will make fine heirlooms someday!
David, I am researching Jesse James for my Year 12 Research Project. So far I am struggling to find sources and get interviews as it is part of the requirements. I can’t seem to find any of Jesse’s descendants and I was hoping I could get in contact with you and discuss anything you know. It would be much appreciated. Thanks, Aaron
Call me. I don't do text or emails. David Baumann 405 816-1340 around noon central time. I'll pass on what I have found out over the years.
David, a remarkable journey and a well told story of your journey. You hold a key piece of the history of the American West. Enjoyed this engaging video. Maureen
Great story?he repeats himself; goes round and round, he'd bore the arse hole out of a tin wood pecker
Is the pistol still for sale
Yes it is. If you are seriously interested in it My phone number is listed on this page and we'll talk.
@@davidbaumann8683 I don't see when your telephone numbers is at
It's 405 816- 1340 Call after 10am or late in the afternoon. I usually stay up until 1am most nights central time. I look forward to hearing from you. David
I know I've posted it but here it is again 405 816- 1340. Don't wait too long to call. The National Cowboy Hall of Fame is interested in exhibiting it in their museum. They are looking for funding to pay for the insurance amount I requested to put it on loan for an exhibit.
Watched the episode when it first aired. Watched it a few times since. Good Stuff. Best to ya! 🇺🇸
Did you ever get the paperwork from that auction house referring to the gun ???
I remember seeing that episode, if it's authentic then you have a priceless piece of history. BTW, you can watch this episode on HULU.
As if, everyone else get’s to see this video before we do! It’s our history! I will now forever remember this when I watch the history channel! I now have a whole different outlook on these programs! And will now know possible most of the rest of the world has seen the program before I was watching it! Thanks for the final analysis, and I think you might possibly be correct with your final analysis! Thanks for the video!
To whom it may concern. You can watch this episode of found or any other episode of found on Hulu.
Thanks; I found it after you posted this. The History Channel finally released it to the public for free viewing. They were charging $2.99 per episode unless you had cable tv and knew your password.
Glad to see Doug Dimmadome still kickin'
Do you still have it?
Yes
WOW Great find!
I'm jessie James's 4th cousin. At least I wouldve been. We have his birth certificate and several pictures and documents of him. My great grandfather was his great grandson. We had one of his revolvers. But a fire destroyed our house and everything with it. All we have now is a few documents and pictures of him as a child and one of the original wanted sheets with his picture. I'm proud to see u have one of his guns. If only my great grandfather told us the location of his treasure. I'd be happy to give it away.
I would like to see your proof of these claims. If youre his great grand sons great grandson: a. That would not make you his fourth cousin but a direct decendant. B. That is too many generations that dont exist
Me to my great grandfathers uncle rose with him
Yeah right my man Jesse ain’t have to girl with the name Chesser, I myself rode with billy after his fled to New Mexico from Arizona and the regulators after awhile
If your great grandfather was his great grandson rhat would make him your great great great great grandfather or more. That doss not add up with when jesse james was born. Sorry. Your family lied to you or you have it wrong.
Jacob Chesser wow that’s amazing you post a picture of his wanted poster
Sir, you have a beautiful collection!
I'm jesse james 73rd cousin! I have a ubertti Schofield with his initials stamped in the frame! You can own this amazing piece of history. I accept paypal!
Wow that’s a very interesting piece of history
There's some interesting and compelling things about this pistol...based on what I see in this video. I would love to see the questioned settled definitively. I hope it is proven to be Jesse's, but whatever the truth may be, let it be revealed.
While, if it were his and present at his death, it's possible that his wife grabbed it with bloody hands, that is just a theory at this point...and that's using a theory to support an unproven conclusion.
I would focus (first priority) on getting the blood tested by someone equipped to do so on older blood, THEN we can figure out how his blood got there...if it's his.
As for the video, overall, I enjoyed it, although I am one of those who can only afford reproductions of the guns of the day. The sport of Cowboy Action shooting isn't unlike my old hobby of reenacting mounted Confederate Cavalry.
In reenacting, there exists subsets and cliques, rife with snobbery and disdain for those they deem less authentically equipped and less historically correct.....though those snobs ride to these events in gasoline automobiles, benefit from and/or carry on their persons modern medical marvels that are certainly inauthentic.
The point is, we don't live in the 19th Century. We aren't 19th Century people. Your 120 year old guns don't look like they did 120 years ago when So & So used them in the day. Now they look like antiques.
The ones they used looked more like today's new reproductions in their day, so from a point of appearances, using well worn originals looks inauthentic.
There's nothing wrong with preferring originals, but there's also nothing wrong with reproductions. There are a LOT of good folks who love the history and the guns who can only afford to get their little piece of it with reproductions. Those are my people...God bless them.
Best of luck to you, sir, in the quest for authentication of that pistol.
plowboysghost his blood got there by his wife.. She ran and grabbed his pistol and Ford was already out the door before she could shoot him...Then went to Jesse and got the blood on her hands and then on the pistol grips
What a awesome collection....congrats...super cool
Fascinating!!! I’ve probably watch all of Jesse James movies. He’s the luckiest man on earth. I wouldn’t sell that gun for nothing. One thing I never knew was the caliber.
I believe it is too ! So how much did you get for it ?
What is the barrel length please?
This pistol has the stock barrel length of 7 inches. This is the only length is was produced in and it hasn't been cut off.
@@davidbaumann8683 Thank You David and Good Luck to You!
Fantastic story! I am 65 years old, I am Brazilian and I live in the south of Brazil, in the city of Porto Alegre. I am passionate about the history of the Wild West. Its heroes, sheriffs and outlaws and also habits, the achievement so difficult and sacrificed. I research a lot about the lives of Jesse James, Billy The Kid, Wyatt Earp, Will Bill Hickock, Calamity Jane, Butch Cassidy, Doc Holiday, Pat Garret and others who built the beautiful history of the American West. Cinema does not always faithfully portray real events, using fiction and stabbing history. In the film The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (where Brad Pitt plays Jesse and Casey Affleck the Ford), Jesse presents Bob with an S&W Schofield and, ironically, was the weapon used by Bob Ford to murder him. Did this really happen or was it invented by the film's director? When Jesse takes off his belt with the revolvers before climbing on the chair to clean the dust off the painting, it gives the impression that he wants to be killed. (my opinion before the scene). In the film, Jesse faced a very strong emotional crisis, constantly living in remorse for the life he led. Did he know that Ford would kill him if he had a chance and then made it easy? What do you, who have a lot of knowledge about the life of Jesse James, think of my theory? I have two S&W Schofield CO2, 4.5mm, from ASG, (Steel Gray and Aging Black, the latter with wooden grips that I made myself). I also have an 1875 Remington. On my channel Airguns & Airsofts comment on issues pertaining to the Wild West and its protagonists. I really liked your video. You have the story in your hands! Its explanation is detailed and precise. Even with my English which is not very good, I managed to understand the content. Congratulations! You won a channel subscriber. I will follow the materials, which are like going back in time. They say that "hugs" are not sent to Americans, that this type of treatment is not used. Well, here in Brazil, suits as a habit, send hugs as a form of friendship, so ... Big hug!
So... What's the name of the last gun or name of the favourite gun of Jesse James?
Fascinating. Mr. Baumann sure has an expensive hobby.
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
Jesse James was killed unarmed. The man who killed him was labeled a coward for doing so.
Bob ford. A member of his own gang shot him in the back of the head while fixing a picture on the wall. He knew there wasn’t a chance in hell he would’ve defeated him on his own
A good number of famous Old West gunfighters met their end by being ambushed or shot from behind. 'Wild Bill Hickok', John Wesley Hardin, Virgil Earp (survived), Morgan Earp, and Jesse James. Not many were killed in a heroic Hollywood-style face-off because such things rarely ever happened. It's the same thing today as it was then... killers tend to only kill their victims when they have the advantage of surprise.
Mate if you contact Forgotten gun's and get into there ear about that gun they just might be able to help you out . They have modern equipment buddy . Great story you got there and lots of beautiful and really cool gun's. I reckon it's JJ's gun mate . Great stuff
Happy to see all of Jesse James family in the comments. What number is still available? I didn’t see 12th cousin. I’ll take that. I’m Jesse James 12th cousin!
😅😅ikr everyone was kin to jj lol
My great great grandmother was a sister to Jesse James.
Your collection is pricless alone in my opinion. Jessies gun is awesome and I would put it on display for the world to see. I think it could make millions of dollars just to get to see it in real life. Thank you for the video her and yes I watched the tv show when it came out and TV is bad about half truthes.
Wish more ppl like you existed that appreciat these firearms I got some of my grand dads I need to look into
appreciating is one thing. shooting them in competition is another . These guns have served their time and belong in a museum or collection . I just can't get behind the knowing destruction of rare antiques . I mean he is shooting the Jesse James pistol and with every shot he is actively making the gun worth less and putting wear and tear on historic items for no good reason . I wish shooting these old guns was not doing that but it is and what in the heck is he doing shooting the gun Jesse James signed in the first place?
jesusoftheapes as far as I’m concerned ther his he bought them and he is a cowboy shooter I would shoot them to ther his I’m sure the black powder he loads into these is not that string to wreck them like I say he paid for them might as well use them as look at them
Man shoots guns more expensive than my whole collection that I sadly lost in a Boating accident.
Incredible collection and awesome that you shoot them also. Thank you for sharing them with us. I only have reproductions.
I saw the UA-cam video of you and the pistol in Dallas .I have a feeling that Jessie has the pistol and was using it in the war . and got shot and got the blood on the grip's from his own hands .if you think about it it makes sense as well .I hope you find out the real story behind that blood in the pistol . good luck with your quest and keeping James history alive .
Jesse used cap and ball revolvers during the Civil War. Modern cartridge firing guns weren't available until 1873. The Schofield didn't come out until 1875 so there is no way he got blood on it from the war as you put it. I had already checked on if Jesse had ever been wounded between 1875 until his death in 1882 had history shows he was never wounded between this time period.
@@davidbaumann8683 well shoot I was wrong with my thinking . If the grip's from a cap and ball pistol don't fit a Schofield pistol .then his wife had to gotten the blood on the grip's .
What’s the story on the large trigger guard on the Sheriff’s Model? Excellent shootin’ collection!
GOOD eye, Yes this Sheriff's model has a latger than normal trigger guard. The serial number on the trigger guard does not match the frame. I do not know who changed it. It was like this when I acquired the gun 30 years ago.
@@davidbaumann8683 .Even though R.L. Wilson wa fraud, his books have great pictures and in one of them is one or two Colt SAAs with extra large triggerguards not related to a Bisley's. I wonder if the one on your gun is one of those. I read somewhere that John Wayne's gun had such a t'guard but I never seen it on film.
Just saw the show that was on 'Found' Why
Hopefully, near future DNA advancements will be able to verify that this was indeed Jesse's blood and this was definitely the gun he had one hit when he was killed like you suspected.
Thanks for posting such a fascinating story and best of luck. Any updates, please post them !
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
Have you been to Jesse James Museum Cement Oklahoma?
I though about it but haven't made a special trip. I've seen the contents of it on a tv show one time but I wasn't much impressed
Jesse James was a real southern hero
Man, it was in Western OK? My father's side of the family is from there, specifically Colony and Corn Oklahoma. Damn. Schofields are cool for sure, especially when owned by J.James and worn when he died. However, those Merwin and Hulberts are the BEST of the era in my opinion.
Jesse removed his pistols, prior to being shot by Robert Ford.How did so much blood manage to get on his pistol, when he wasn't wearing his two pistols that he wore in a shoulder holster?
His wife grabbed the gun and she had blood on her hands
When Jesse James was a very young man, Jesse James robbed trains. When Jesse James was on the job, he took everything but the dang ol' train!
Not to discredit the authenticity of your pistol, the James signature seems authentic, but there's another pistol (same model) that has provenance going back to Jesse James Jr. and that one is said to be the one of the two Jesse had when he was killed. The Colt 45 mentioned is also one of the guns that belonged to Jesse Jr. Your pistol may have been one of who knows how many guns Jesse owned at one time or another but I don't think it's the one of the two that Mrs James claimed he had in the house. You have a fantastic pistol none the less.
Hi; Thanks for responding to my video about my pistol. I've owned it for over 16 years and have recearched it and all S&W Schofiels's belonging to any James Gang member to the best of my abililty in depth. Here is what you might not know and you can check it out your self. Jesse Jr. was only 7 or 8 when his father Jesse James was assinated. Jesse wife Zee died penneyless. She had a auction and sold off Jesses James items including Jesse's dog to make ends meet to support Jesse's 2 chldren. When Jesse Jr. was around 20 or so. He put together a shadow box containing several guns. (about 11 I believe) that he showed to the public for .25 cents. The Colt 45 from this shadow box went to auction and got no bids. The reason being the serial number on that Colt shows the gun wasn't even made until over 6 months after Jesse James was assinated. There for speculation suggest that Jesse Jr. just thought he had his daddies guns. I personally have seen and shook hands with Jesse James great great grandson. The closest living link to Jesse James. I know alot of facts about Jesse that are too numerous to type here. I've made my phone number public . Give me a call. Your are correct in one thing. I'm shur Jesse James owned several guns in the span of his short but deadly life. But this one has his signature 5 times on the inside of the blood stained grips.
@@davidbaumann8683 Nothing like a Shootist's pistol..I'd love to see all the pistols they used.
It was on Sr, most likely had it when injured or assassinated. I need to finish my DA brace...and get some Merwins. That and your Sheriffs mod are sweet :O
@@davidbaumann8683 Think he had the Smith of yours in Northfield? or other times he was/coulda been injured, he did almost die a few times
@@danielblackburn1241 You need to look on the internet a little deeper . The colt 45 your talking about was estimated to fetch 1.6 million but it did not get a single bid. It's there right on the internet. Or you can call Rock Island auction and ask them. Do you want their phone number. I have it in my phone. Annie Oakley's double barrel shot gun sold for 293,000.. And a Wild Bill gun also didn't sale. This auction was on 11-24-2013. You need to get your facts strait before you start running off at the mouth.
Should be in a museum
Hi David I too have a Jesse James gun. The gun was documented by the man who set up the Jesse James Museum in Kearney Missouri all the provenance is in the Jesse James Museum archives. It's a 32 Caliber boot gun he got when he was in Quantrell Raiders during the Civil War I have never taken the grips off the gun I'd like to talk to you when you can I'll tell you the whole story then
Let me guess what type of boot pistol you have. I'd guess it's a Smith and Wesson number 2 , 32cal rim fire with a tip up barrel. Go ahead and get a screw driver and take the grips off. It's pretty easy. Hope you find something under there. Anyway on your pistol, to confirm it could have belonged to Jesse you need to identify what the pistol is then check the seril number with the factory archives to see what year the gun was manufactured.
Congrats on getting the answers on Found!
Good luck David! Great video.
Amazing , Mr. Baumann ! I'd say you got it right on the blood stains, seems odd that there would be five signatures on the grips, though.....I know that these boys would be proud of their guns that kept them alive, maybe that was the reason or maybe Jesse was superstitious and wanted the gang's signatures on the grips of a gun that had ivory grips to bring them luck, must have been an expensive gun for the times. Very interesting story. By the way I have heard that Jesse's family came from Madison Co. , WNC, can you verify that ?
That gun was on pawn stars. And the show found Iv seen it on both
I've owned this gun for over 20 years and pawn stars hasn't been around that long and I've never taken it to pawn stars. So you have not seen this gun on pawn stars. Now that that's cleared up this gun has been on the History channel;s show Found Outlaws and Aliens that aired on tv about 5 years ago. Maybe that's were you saw it.
I wouldn’t let lose of that pistol!
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct.....
I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
Wonderful story and nice guns
I love the gun David I collect cowboy action guns myself
About DNA testing, they can go back so much more than 75 years depending of which of the three main methods is used. We are talking about tens of thousands of years. A great story though. Merwin & Hulbert went out of business around 1880-1881. That Merwin & Hulbert president you spoke to must have been quite old.... Perhaps you spoke to Michael Blank? Blank had plans to reintroduce the revolvers 2010 but made on modern machinery with modern materials. That venture were later bought in 2012 by the Sharps Rifle Company but that never bore any fruit. The rest of theses stories IS hard to be sure about. Sounds exiting though. Great collection of guns!!! Are you not afraid of them blowing up by the hard use you give them or do you use very light loads?
They get DNA that is thousands of years old out of bone marrow, not blood. And that name Michael Blank sound familiar. He might be the guy I talked too. I checked my cell phone phone number listing before I replied to this but didn't find the name and the phone number of the guy I talked to. But my old cell phone died last year and I lost over 500 phone numbers I had stored in it. I reload my own shells with smokeless powder and yes they are real light loads equal to a light load 38 special at 600 feet per second
@@davidbaumann8683 Thanks for the reply!!!!
David I hope when the time comes to sell this gun you get more for it than you ever dreamed of.Good luck and take care.
Great information, everything that you came up with sounds real.
That's awesome. Have the blood DNA tested.
He tried on the History Channel show Found. Sample was too old to have DNA in it
@@briggie27 That's stupid because they said they can use DNA from a dinosaur flesh to try and clone another. They just don't want to do the DNA test on the grips because they are lazy and don't want to search up old cowboys
I'm pretty sure my grandpa's dad knew jesse james cuz there's this really old picture in my grandpa's room of my great grandpa and every time I ask about it he acts like he didn't hear anything
So cool
@@CiuBabe soooo boring
@@bigglesbiggles4999 such a dork
There is no way I would shoot this weapon, especially if the Main Spring is wearing and rubbing the inside signature of the Ivory grip. It should be bagged and sealed and kept until DNA research has improved... just my humble opinion. Thanks , great video and interesting story. You need to get that documentation on the weapon that you were originally promised.
I have to agree. As much fun as it is to shoot it, if it really is Jesse's gun then it's a historical artifact and a national treasure. Imagine owning the Derringer that Booth used to kill Lincoln, and shooting the snot out of it until something broke. Mr. Baumann is lucky to own something like this, but he has a moral responsibility to be its caretaker and help preserve it for posterity.
So is the documentation still out there? And wouldn’t you be the rightful owner if so?
Yes, I was superposed to get the documentation from the guy I bought the gun from. But when he received it weeks later from the auction house he bought it from, he kept it and kept trying to buy the gun back from me for twice what I paid him for the gun. I wouldn't sell because I had discovered the signatures in the grips. He died and I didn't even know he had received the documentation from the auction house until he had been died for over 1 year. 3 of his closest friends knew about it but they weren't superposed to let me know he had it. He never even told his family members about it so after he passed, if they didn't know what it was it got tossed in the dumpster. The purpose of this video is me reaching out to the person that had the pistol and the documentation that put it in the auction. I'm hoping they kept copies of it and will get in-touch with me. This is why my phone number is listed on the screen.
I am ken to Jessie . My daddy sported a ring onbhis pinkey. Nice lookin rings and guns brother. Thankyou
You definitely have done your homework on it, so I salute you for that. Do you know how many auctioneers and sellers have claimed over the years that their pistol was owned by "fill in the blank" Old West celebrity? Do you know how many reported Hickok guns are out there? Bonnie and Clyde guns? And anyone can fake a signature on the grip, especially if that photo and signature were well known. Let us say the signature is original to the pistol and was not added at a later date. It is highly probable that another person with the first or last name of "James" could have owned a Smith and Wesson Revolver. I have been collecting antique firearms for 30 years and the reported "blood stains" from Jesse James under the grips make the provenance LESS believable. As others have discussed in the comment section below, it could be blood, but the chances are very slim that it is a Jesse James revolver AND is covered in Jesse's OWN blood. If something is too good to be true, it usually is.
Hi Todd B. Great responce amd Thank you. I've owned this gun for over 16 years now and have spent may hours doing my home work on it. I have been collecting old guns for over 40 years now and collect only guns made prior to 1910. Over there years I've leaned what blood does to guns if not whiped and oiled shortly after it gets on them. It pits the heck out of them. When I pried the grips off this gun I freaked out with the chunks of blood that fell out and the deep pitting of the frame of the pistol. So I knew it was blood. The stains have been tested 3 times in a lab and prove it's blood. Anyway the signature on the grips are the same signature that is on the picture of Jesse James and the other signatures accredited to Jesse James. The ink used on the signature is the type used in that time period and has changed to the color that this type of ink changes after 125 years of age. Anyway I have lots of information that wasn't disclosed in this short video. Fell free to call me at 405 816-1340 and I'll go in depth with you about every thing at this is the real deal. David Baumann
Yep, and none of them have ever sold that I know of. That Colt SAA, the most documented Jesse Jame gun ever, had a serial number showing that it was made 6 months after he was killed. I spotted that immeadly becase I have lettered all my old guns and had one that lettered after Jesse was killed , but before that gun was ever made. I understand your skeptisom but that is why there are forensic document examers now days and that their testamony is believed by judges. And the History channel got one of the best ones in Texas. I have the noterized document stating that she will testafy in court that the same person that signed that picture is the same person that signed these grips.. As for the blood, I never stated that it's proven that it's Jesse James blood. I just believe that it is. It's a whole lot of blood. Not just a shaving nick. It is proven that it is blood, in 3 seperate test. Old blood at that. But I have to believe what a licenced board certified forensic document examiner says. The law says so. That is why I'm so open about what is proven as facts and the purpose of this youtube video. I'm trying to find Professional certified people out there willing to look at the 5 signatures and a credited DNA labs that wants to try to prove or disaprove the blood stains. Thank you for your reply. Call me. You sound like the kinda guy I like to talk to. David 405 816-1340
On my mothers side her grandfather which is my great grandfather his mother was directly related to him. Btw frank and him both were part of the golden ccircle. We have the patch and pendent from his belongings.
Knights of the Golden Circle, that's cool.
I love Jesse James I also like his gun when are you going to put it in a museum?
I've been seriously thinking about this thought a lot here lately. There is a big national museum not too far from my house.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
The pistol that belonged to Cole Younger is in the Museum in Berryville, Arkansas... a Smith and Wesson Scofield.
Do you know the story about Cole Younger's pistol. If it is the same pistol, he got shot during a bank robbery with Jesse and he dropped the gun in the street. After the shooting died down, the local druggist ran out there and got it.