Who do you use to restore these firearms? I’m looking to find a place to restore an original 1851 colt London model that was converted to 38 rimfire. I’d like to get her back to shooting as I’ve got a kit for reloading 38 rimfire
Amazing , Mr. Baumann ! I'd say you got it right on the blood stains, seems odd that there would be five signatures on the grips, though.....I know that these boys would be proud of their guns that kept them alive, maybe that was the reason or maybe Jesse was superstitious and wanted the gang's signatures on the grips of a gun that had ivory grips to bring them luck, must have been an expensive gun for the times. Very interesting story. By the way I have heard that Jesse's family came from Madison Co. , WNC, can you verify that ?
Should take that in for DNA analysis. They would probably love to have that DNA for historical purposes, and it would prove the guns authenticity, increasing its value 10-fold.
I'm jesse james 73rd cousin! I have a ubertti Schofield with his initials stamped in the frame! You can own this amazing piece of history. I accept paypal!
Is there any truth in that Jessy and Frank had cousins that looked similar and that is how they appeared to be in different places. It sounds good and possible but I am no expert like yourself so don’t completely agree
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
It can be yours for some $$$$$$$$. I've had it for a long time and am ready to pass it on to a new owner. Make an offer I can't refuse. I'll even toss in a buch of bullets loaded just for this pistol so you can shoot it like I have. David 405 816-1340
@@Artic_Liam I gave you my personal phone number to call if you were a serious buyer to call me and we'd talk about a price. I don't want to put a price out there that the public would see. The price would just be between you and me. If you are really interested in buying it and are fairly wealthy give me a call. David
@@davidbaumann8683 and david i completely understand but you see i barley have $400 in my acount and since Jesse was souch a big guy its mist likely too expensive for me. So i will probably contact you for a price but since i probably can not aford this i am probably gonna have to wait so please respond to this i am just really nervous since i have a huge intrest in jesse James.
Hi David I too have a Jesse James gun. The gun was documented by the man who set up the Jesse James Museum in Kearney Missouri all the provenance is in the Jesse James Museum archives. It's a 32 Caliber boot gun he got when he was in Quantrell Raiders during the Civil War I have never taken the grips off the gun I'd like to talk to you when you can I'll tell you the whole story then
Let me guess what type of boot pistol you have. I'd guess it's a Smith and Wesson number 2 , 32cal rim fire with a tip up barrel. Go ahead and get a screw driver and take the grips off. It's pretty easy. Hope you find something under there. Anyway on your pistol, to confirm it could have belonged to Jesse you need to identify what the pistol is then check the seril number with the factory archives to see what year the gun was manufactured.
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again. Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
With all due respect, somebody has to ask, why would you have a ancient and well used and worn and confirmed very famous piece of firearms history and use it in cowboy action shooting? This gun I feel should be on display in your home and seldom used, if not in a museum.
It's funny isn't it how people are proud to be a 6th cousin of Jess's nowdays isn't it. When I talked to Jesse Jame's great grand son about this revolver on the History Channel years ago, he told me he didn't even know he was related to Jesse James until after his 18 birthday and when he was in the military. The real family members kept quit about it not wanting anyone to know they were related to him like it was a bad thing. Kinda like being related to Adolph Hitler, you kept your mouth shut. Now Jesse is Famous and everybody wants to be related to him at this day and time. I think the Adolph Hitler relitives are still being quit. Jesse robbed and killed a few people were Aldolph Hitler did it in the millions.
Think on this and let it sink in. The serial numbers most larger arms mahnufacturing companies put on their guns was for the company to keep track on how many they produced and that was all it was used for. The cheaper smaller companies didn't even bother to serial number their guns. A law wasn't put in effect until around 1960 requiring companies to serial number all guns. So back in the day no one kept track of serial numbers. You identified a gun by marking it or putting your name on it to know yours from another one that looked just like it. As far as bad guys grinding off serial numbers today usually means the gun is stolen and mabe used in another crime were a murder was commited and the only thing the police have is a bullet recovered from a body. Todays data bases can tie a gun used and recovered during a gas station robery in one state to a murder case in another state 20 years ago. Back in the day, serial numbers didn't mean anything, today the serial number is everthing for tracking down a gun.
Your a little harsh on me don't you think. I just own it because it is a piece of history. If it was setting in a musieum , would they be shaking hands with the devil too. Do I need to take it to church this Sunday and get it blessed. Cut me some slack here.
Your life...Your choice. Jesse James was a vile excuse for a human being. A murder, a thief, an Adulterer, he was utter scum. The earth got a little better the instant james was removed from it.
I just think it would be nice for future generation to get to enjoy this beautiful pice of American craftsmanship and it would be A shame this items not going to be around because people like you want to shoot the shit out of it and using a gun tied to one of the most famous western figure in western American history just kinda ignorant that is why I said you have more money then brains I was not trying to offend you I just think you would want your grandchildren to see this gun too and they won’t be able to see it if you’re shooting the shit out of it sorry i meant no Harm
I'm beginning to think you don't know much about old guns. If the gun was well maintained threw it's lifetime, which this gun was. They are better made than the new ones. If you buy the good guns ,a Cold, Winchester, Smith & Wesson . Not the H & R's or Iver Johnston's. Get a old name brand gun or borrow one from somebody and shoot it then start making opinions . I even deer hunt with my old Winchesters, The 1873's and 1866's, my 50-70 Sharps, 1873 Springfield's in 45-70. Mind you none of my guns are wall hangers. They all function just as good as they did when new. I can wait until my grand kids get old enough to help ingeront old PaPa as you called me shoot the shit out of Jesse's revolver.
That’s kinda cool you want use Authentic western guns but I would use new Generation because I think colt ,henry,and smith and Wesson still make their iconic western guns in my opinion I think you’ve got a lot more money than you’ve got brains Because I wouldn’t use these iconic western firearms antiques in a competition I would want to preserve them for as long as possible and shooting the shit out of them could damage them at some point my dad used to say if you got moving parts it’s bound to break down and I think that’s what would happen to these and it would be sad to have that happen to these Beautiful iconic western firearms
I disagree with your opinion, I believe I have more brains than money. Why spend 700 to 1500 dollars on a modern repro gun when I have the real deal that was made to last forever and just shoot the shit out of it. Every body knows the manufactures 100 years ago took pride in what they produced and if it was taken care of correctly since it's manufacturing, it will work the same today. It's a whole lot funner to shoot a piece of history and just look at it. With me if I collected old model A cars, I'd drive them. My old guns will be around long after I'm gone. You go ahead and buy the modern repro guns and have fun shooting them. But when you get a little older and wiser you will stop and think. You know, for just a little bit more money that what this repro gun cost, I could have gotten the real deal and really have something I'd be proud of to pass on to my grand children and we both can shoot the shit out of it.
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
It's 405 816- 1340 Call after 10am or late in the afternoon. I usually stay up until 1am most nights central time. I look forward to hearing from you. David
I know I've posted it but here it is again 405 816- 1340. Don't wait too long to call. The National Cowboy Hall of Fame is interested in exhibiting it in their museum. They are looking for funding to pay for the insurance amount I requested to put it on loan for an exhibit.
Threw my rechearch on this pistol it is believed he signed it 5 time because it's a secret code used by the Knights of the Golden Circle which Jesse was a high ranking member.
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct..... I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
I won’t watch the ‘History Channel’ , they always cram 25 minutes into an hour show after omitting important facts. Lucky ‘find’ by the way. I’d like to hear that one day you ‘shared’ this with the most appropriate museum vs a private collection.
I would but they'd only offer me 1/3 of what their expert would say it was worth. They try to make too much money off of someone else's stuff. It's like if you wanted to sale them a 1 dollar bill , they'd try to get it for 33 cents because it had to be restored or re-framed or any other excuse that came to their mind.
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
I've owned this gun for over 20 years and pawn stars hasn't been around that long and I've never taken it to pawn stars. So you have not seen this gun on pawn stars. Now that that's cleared up this gun has been on the History channel;s show Found Outlaws and Aliens that aired on tv about 5 years ago. Maybe that's were you saw it.
Yes it was. Usually just initials were scratched or a #2 lead pencil were used. Prior to 1950 no one paid much attention to serial numbers even thou most guns had them but if you gun was stolon and you wanted to prove it was yours you'd mark it some how on the inside of the grips.
History has left out that Jesse James faked his death and moved to Texas. Upon his death, his post mortem examination showed he died from complications of pnumonia. He had two bullet wounds that matched up to the two wounds Jesse James received at the end of the Civil War. Jesse James became good friends with Brushy Bill Roberts Aka Billy the kid, and passed away shortly after Billy the kid in 1950.
I also hear that Jesse, Billy the Kid and Butch Cassidy and Sundance used to meet at Belle Stars hideout at Younger's Bend in Oklahoma and pay poker and laugh about the fast one's they pulled about their deaths. They all lived to be almost 100 years old.
Has there been any update on the blood on the grips? Did it just die off?
Who do you use to restore these firearms? I’m looking to find a place to restore an original 1851 colt London model that was converted to 38 rimfire. I’d like to get her back to shooting as I’ve got a kit for reloading 38 rimfire
I want some KGC gold
Amazing , Mr. Baumann ! I'd say you got it right on the blood stains, seems odd that there would be five signatures on the grips, though.....I know that these boys would be proud of their guns that kept them alive, maybe that was the reason or maybe Jesse was superstitious and wanted the gang's signatures on the grips of a gun that had ivory grips to bring them luck, must have been an expensive gun for the times. Very interesting story. By the way I have heard that Jesse's family came from Madison Co. , WNC, can you verify that ?
Should take that in for DNA analysis. They would probably love to have that DNA for historical purposes, and it would prove the guns authenticity, increasing its value 10-fold.
I'm jesse james 73rd cousin! I have a ubertti Schofield with his initials stamped in the frame! You can own this amazing piece of history. I accept paypal!
That’s not blood but rust.
I've had 2 DNA Doctors test the stains and they say they test positive for blood, not rust.
Is there any truth in that Jessy and Frank had cousins that looked similar and that is how they appeared to be in different places. It sounds good and possible but I am no expert like yourself so don’t completely agree
What you stated in your posting on youtube is a first time hearing this for me so I don't have a answer for you.
Frank died at the age of 72 leaving his wife Annie Ralston James and his son. He had been living on the James farm for a few years with Frank giving tours for 25 cents. I do hope that they had a comfortable life. When you think today how valuable anything is that can be proved belonged to Frank or Jessy James.
I literly cried out of jelusnes when i saw and heard the gun and its story cus i am obsesed with guns and most of all Jesse James
It can be yours for some $$$$$$$$. I've had it for a long time and am ready to pass it on to a new owner. Make an offer I can't refuse. I'll even toss in a buch of bullets loaded just for this pistol so you can shoot it like I have. David 405 816-1340
@@davidbaumann8683 so if you said a prise that would be nice
@@davidbaumann8683cus Tbh i would do literly ANYTHING for something like that😂😅
@@Artic_Liam I gave you my personal phone number to call if you were a serious buyer to call me and we'd talk about a price. I don't want to put a price out there that the public would see. The price would just be between you and me. If you are really interested in buying it and are fairly wealthy give me a call. David
@@davidbaumann8683 and david i completely understand but you see i barley have $400 in my acount and since Jesse was souch a big guy its mist likely too expensive for me. So i will probably contact you for a price but since i probably can not aford this i am probably gonna have to wait so please respond to this i am just really nervous since i have a huge intrest in jesse James.
Hi David I too have a Jesse James gun. The gun was documented by the man who set up the Jesse James Museum in Kearney Missouri all the provenance is in the Jesse James Museum archives. It's a 32 Caliber boot gun he got when he was in Quantrell Raiders during the Civil War I have never taken the grips off the gun I'd like to talk to you when you can I'll tell you the whole story then
Let me guess what type of boot pistol you have. I'd guess it's a Smith and Wesson number 2 , 32cal rim fire with a tip up barrel. Go ahead and get a screw driver and take the grips off. It's pretty easy. Hope you find something under there. Anyway on your pistol, to confirm it could have belonged to Jesse you need to identify what the pistol is then check the seril number with the factory archives to see what year the gun was manufactured.
What happened to this pistol David? i’ve been looking for updates on this gun. Did you ever sell it? The gun is a one of a kind. thank you for sharing this with us. i’m a collector of old Smith & Wesson revolvers my self, and I have letters from Roy Jinks. I wish you would inform us on the status of your Jesse James gun. Loved this video👍🏻
I've still got it. The purpose of this videos was to try to find information about it before I bought it in 2002. And I have. The originl person that put it up for auction in 2002 died before the gun was ever auctioned off and the auction house that auctioned it off dropped the ball when the revolver finally did come up for auction and said the blood stains on the grips were rust. It's a long story that I won't go into detail on youtube but I still have the gun and would like to sale it. I'm getting older now and have had it for 22 years, I'd like to sale it before I pass. Make me a resonable offer and it could be the main attraction in your Mr. Roy Jenks letter collection. call me at four 0 five eight 1 six 1340.
@@davidbaumann8683 thank you for getting back with me David. have you had any offers for it? The gun is one of a kind. The gun has providence and also J James inside the grips. sure looks like blood inside the grips to me. Maybe I’ll give you a call sometime. God bless.
I don’t know if you have ever allowed a Jessy James museum to display your gun so the public gets a chance to see this weapon. Before you sell it on again. Thank you for showing the actual weapon own by two Legendary Gunfights of the Confederacy.
Does NOT impress me to be using such a rare artifact...let alone" shooting the crap out of it". Just because you can, doesn't mean you should 🤦♂️
Sorry , I don't care if you are impressed or not and I don't need your opinion on how I should use my firearms.
Did jesse want to make sure if he dropped it during a robbery he could. Get it back? Im pretty sure its legit.
I am ken to Jessie . My daddy sported a ring onbhis pinkey. Nice lookin rings and guns brother. Thankyou
I would really like to know did you ever have Jesse’s revolver appraised? Do you know how much the revolver is worth today?
David I hope when the time comes to sell this gun you get more for it than you ever dreamed of.Good luck and take care.
When Jesse James was a very young man, Jesse James robbed trains. When Jesse James was on the job, he took everything but the dang ol' train!
It has to be worth millions to a gun collector . I wouldn't be shooting it I'd have it locked up in a safe
With all due respect, somebody has to ask, why would you have a ancient and well used and worn and confirmed very famous piece of firearms history and use it in cowboy action shooting? This gun I feel should be on display in your home and seldom used, if not in a museum.
Every video about Jesse James has hundreds of people commenting how they are somehow all related to Jesse James. What a joke haha!
It's funny isn't it how people are proud to be a 6th cousin of Jess's nowdays isn't it. When I talked to Jesse Jame's great grand son about this revolver on the History Channel years ago, he told me he didn't even know he was related to Jesse James until after his 18 birthday and when he was in the military. The real family members kept quit about it not wanting anyone to know they were related to him like it was a bad thing. Kinda like being related to Adolph Hitler, you kept your mouth shut. Now Jesse is Famous and everybody wants to be related to him at this day and time. I think the Adolph Hitler relitives are still being quit. Jesse robbed and killed a few people were Aldolph Hitler did it in the millions.
There's so much yet to learn about the wild West
Man shoots guns more expensive than my whole collection that I sadly lost in a Boating accident.
dna testing that blood would be cool
Awesome!!!
So bad guys put thier signature on theyguns? Why? Bad guys today grind off serial#s Doesn't make sense to me
Think on this and let it sink in. The serial numbers most larger arms mahnufacturing companies put on their guns was for the company to keep track on how many they produced and that was all it was used for. The cheaper smaller companies didn't even bother to serial number their guns. A law wasn't put in effect until around 1960 requiring companies to serial number all guns. So back in the day no one kept track of serial numbers. You identified a gun by marking it or putting your name on it to know yours from another one that looked just like it. As far as bad guys grinding off serial numbers today usually means the gun is stolen and mabe used in another crime were a murder was commited and the only thing the police have is a bullet recovered from a body. Todays data bases can tie a gun used and recovered during a gas station robery in one state to a murder case in another state 20 years ago. Back in the day, serial numbers didn't mean anything, today the serial number is everthing for tracking down a gun.
Cool piece of history. Now you, too, are shaking hands with the devil.
Your a little harsh on me don't you think. I just own it because it is a piece of history. If it was setting in a musieum , would they be shaking hands with the devil too. Do I need to take it to church this Sunday and get it blessed. Cut me some slack here.
youtube is better for this type of niche anyway!! don’t let the greedy pigs get to ya. love your interest in good ole raw history
I think you were Jesse James, back in a life before this slightly more modern you.
Your life...Your choice. Jesse James was a vile excuse for a human being. A murder, a thief, an Adulterer, he was utter scum. The earth got a little better the instant james was removed from it.
Wow, I wonder how you feel about Adolph Hitler if you feel this way about Jesse.
I just think it would be nice for future generation to get to enjoy this beautiful pice of American craftsmanship and it would be A shame this items not going to be around because people like you want to shoot the shit out of it and using a gun tied to one of the most famous western figure in western American history just kinda ignorant that is why I said you have more money then brains I was not trying to offend you I just think you would want your grandchildren to see this gun too and they won’t be able to see it if you’re shooting the shit out of it sorry i meant no Harm
I'm beginning to think you don't know much about old guns. If the gun was well maintained threw it's lifetime, which this gun was. They are better made than the new ones. If you buy the good guns ,a Cold, Winchester, Smith & Wesson . Not the H & R's or Iver Johnston's. Get a old name brand gun or borrow one from somebody and shoot it then start making opinions . I even deer hunt with my old Winchesters, The 1873's and 1866's, my 50-70 Sharps, 1873 Springfield's in 45-70. Mind you none of my guns are wall hangers. They all function just as good as they did when new. I can wait until my grand kids get old enough to help ingeront old PaPa as you called me shoot the shit out of Jesse's revolver.
That’s kinda cool you want use Authentic western guns but I would use new Generation because I think colt ,henry,and smith and Wesson still make their iconic western guns in my opinion I think you’ve got a lot more money than you’ve got brains Because I wouldn’t use these iconic western firearms antiques in a competition I would want to preserve them for as long as possible and shooting the shit out of them could damage them at some point my dad used to say if you got moving parts it’s bound to break down and I think that’s what would happen to these and it would be sad to have that happen to these Beautiful iconic western firearms
I disagree with your opinion, I believe I have more brains than money. Why spend 700 to 1500 dollars on a modern repro gun when I have the real deal that was made to last forever and just shoot the shit out of it. Every body knows the manufactures 100 years ago took pride in what they produced and if it was taken care of correctly since it's manufacturing, it will work the same today. It's a whole lot funner to shoot a piece of history and just look at it. With me if I collected old model A cars, I'd drive them. My old guns will be around long after I'm gone. You go ahead and buy the modern repro guns and have fun shooting them. But when you get a little older and wiser you will stop and think. You know, for just a little bit more money that what this repro gun cost, I could have gotten the real deal and really have something I'd be proud of to pass on to my grand children and we both can shoot the shit out of it.
Damn man… leave some for the rest of us…
Wow, now thats an amazing piece of history. And crazy to know how many men looked down the barrel of that very same gun. Along with the men who were shot and those that were killed.
I read about this when you first come out with it.. there's just something about holding a piece of history in your hand that you can't put into words.. stuff like this makes us wish we would have been there
Incredible collection and awesome that you shoot them also. Thank you for sharing them with us. I only have reproductions.
Jesse James was a real southern hero
I just watched the show on Hulu
Is the pistol still for sale
Yes it is. If you are seriously interested in it My phone number is listed on this page and we'll talk.
@@davidbaumann8683 I don't see when your telephone numbers is at
It's 405 816- 1340 Call after 10am or late in the afternoon. I usually stay up until 1am most nights central time. I look forward to hearing from you. David
I know I've posted it but here it is again 405 816- 1340. Don't wait too long to call. The National Cowboy Hall of Fame is interested in exhibiting it in their museum. They are looking for funding to pay for the insurance amount I requested to put it on loan for an exhibit.
He signed the grips 5 times? Why not 6
Threw my rechearch on this pistol it is believed he signed it 5 time because it's a secret code used by the Knights of the Golden Circle which Jesse was a high ranking member.
David.....keep it safe.
I hope you prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's all correct..... I can't tell you just how happy I am, that a cowboy action shooter ended up with this treasure.....
I love the gun David I collect cowboy action guns myself
I won’t watch the ‘History Channel’ , they always cram 25 minutes into an hour show after omitting important facts. Lucky ‘find’ by the way. I’d like to hear that one day you ‘shared’ this with the most appropriate museum vs a private collection.
Watched the episode when it first aired. Watched it a few times since. Good Stuff. Best to ya! 🇺🇸
Take it to pawn stars lol
I would but they'd only offer me 1/3 of what their expert would say it was worth. They try to make too much money off of someone else's stuff. It's like if you wanted to sale them a 1 dollar bill , they'd try to get it for 33 cents because it had to be restored or re-framed or any other excuse that came to their mind.
Just wow!! I've always been fascinated with jesse james, just went out to see his farm were he was raised and the house he was shot in, just in all of your find can't even imagine!!
That gun was on pawn stars. And the show found Iv seen it on both
I've owned this gun for over 20 years and pawn stars hasn't been around that long and I've never taken it to pawn stars. So you have not seen this gun on pawn stars. Now that that's cleared up this gun has been on the History channel;s show Found Outlaws and Aliens that aired on tv about 5 years ago. Maybe that's were you saw it.
Was it common for gun owners to sign their guns in the handle grip? I never knew this. Like Wow!
Yes it was. Usually just initials were scratched or a #2 lead pencil were used. Prior to 1950 no one paid much attention to serial numbers even thou most guns had them but if you gun was stolon and you wanted to prove it was yours you'd mark it some how on the inside of the grips.
History has left out that Jesse James faked his death and moved to Texas. Upon his death, his post mortem examination showed he died from complications of pnumonia. He had two bullet wounds that matched up to the two wounds Jesse James received at the end of the Civil War. Jesse James became good friends with Brushy Bill Roberts Aka Billy the kid, and passed away shortly after Billy the kid in 1950.
I also hear that Jesse, Billy the Kid and Butch Cassidy and Sundance used to meet at Belle Stars hideout at Younger's Bend in Oklahoma and pay poker and laugh about the fast one's they pulled about their deaths. They all lived to be almost 100 years old.