Probably this dude talking about his region of his native american tribes was "peaceful" but definitely the plains native american were warriors and had fighting beliefs.
@TchHry The natives had rules of war. Some Native American groups practiced ritualistic cannibalism before Columbus, often tied to religious or cultural beliefs. The Aztecs consumed flesh from human sacrifices as part of honoring their gods, while evidence from the Ancestral Puebloans suggests cannibalism linked to rituals or famine. The Caribs in the Caribbean were accused of eating enemies, though these claims might have been exaggerated by Europeans to justify colonization. Cannibalism was rare and not widespread, with survival or symbolic reasons behind it. European accounts often distorted these practices to depict Native Americans as "savages" and legitimize their conquest.
How much u wanna bet you aren't cherokee and you're just a white dude who thinks he's native american to win white conservative points to fought "wokness energy"🫵😂
He’s wrong for sure. But I at least have to give him credit for NOT throwing a tantrum like a lot of leftists and being willing to engage in a mature manner. That means there’s probably hope for him. That’s something I still kept when I played with some more left-leaning ideas, and because I was still willing to listen and have civil conversations, that’s how I learned why those ideas were wrong and changed my mind.
@@kovy689 He's 99% of college students unfortunately on the part of being misinformed, but I was glad he took the time to engage and share his views. Sure there are untruths in the history books, just like there are untruths in what his ancestors told him. "Identity politics" never makes anything better. NA Reservations are completely screwed over by big government and selfish "leaders" - not much different than any other group the elites use to divide us against one another while lining their pockets on our collective suffering.
NOT only that...native americans didn't believe in OWNING land! They also conquered each other! Whose land does the Mt. Rushmore belong to? His ignorance is astounding! Native americans enslaved their enemies as well! Native americans also owned black slaves!
@@vuarey Native tribes were scammed of their lands. True, they didn't believe in owning land, which the europeans didn't agree with, hence why the natives bent over like a lawn chair when the europeans first made contact. While Natives did conquor each other and take slaves, so did other european powers (spanish). We scammed them with the walking purchase We forced them through the trail of tears When this country was born, part of our right to property involved their lands We forced them into reservations We committed genocide on many tribes Let their voices not be forgotten.
It’s my understanding that some tribes were willing to live in peace with their neighbors but others were more violent and confrontational. Maybe he’s from one of the peaceful tribes that was blessed to have neighbors who were also peaceful.
@@vuareythey didn’t own the land individually but if they rode their pony across it they believe it belonged to the tribe. This dudes full of garbage. They fought and treated each other like crap. He’s a liar and so are his elders.
Most college students are unfortunately. Not denying there were some atrocities - but white washing NA history just to push "identity politics" doesn't help. Reservations are poorly ran and mismanaged - at the end of the day seems the government screws everything up for the common person, regardless of skin color, religion, sex, or any other attribute they use to divide us.
How can you be native and not know your own histories? The Puritans came in, and although yes relations where good at first, eventually after the population wipe out due to European diseases, that kindness quickly went away. The Europeans where the first agressors? Does none of that matter, they wiped out an entire culture, they wiped out my culture, just as they did yours.
@MrChesemis It's crazy that none of this would've happened if Europeans weren't totally back stabber to native american tribes. Like 600 broken peace treaty. None of this today native americans wouldn't had all these feelings about America
@@erenjaeger1738 ...the whole world has been like that forever. Nothing different about it. But these days the Crackers are getting all the blame. Go figure. And they call us the racists.
Native American here. Look, North America was going to get conquered eventually. Glad it was Europe rather than SE Asia. My tribe, Purepecha, was slave based, cannibalistic, and would sacrifice thousands for festivals. No thanks! I like literature, the wheel, electricity, not having to worry about being eaten, etc. I'm thankful for that!
My tribes were The Vikings of Southern Norway and we were also enslaving each other and neighboring clans and also practicing human sacrifice. Thank God Christianity swept across our continent and saved us all from those horrible traditions! We all have a lot of things to be thankful for on Thanksgiving!
And you're acting Europeans weren't do that crazy shii in Europe? Buddy hasn't heard the dark ages and the vikings, celtics were doing and many the pagans beliefs Europeans had. Let's not forget James Town did cannibals by Europeans and end up eating a girl. So nice try with your "I'm glad my ancestors were being genocide by Europeans ☝️🤓" 🫵😂
I can't believe that the Indian tribes lived in peace and harmony and only fought each other because of the Pilgrims, it doesn't pass the common sense test.
I'm Navajo, thankful for the opportunity to thank GOD for another year of His provisions, I do thank Him daily. Thanksgiving and the pilgrims arrival was a positive impact on humanity.
Ah...the lie of the Noble Savage....this guy is deluded. They had allies and enemies, and since they were human beings, conflicts that could not be negotiated were settled by war.
Lies?? Are you native American or at least an historian that specializes in native American culture and beliefs? Or, are you just agreeing with Prager cuz he's part of the Republican team? Cuz even the most ignorant fools could understand what native Americans would like thanksgiving or Columbus Day for that matter. And if I were black, I would probably be against it also. Far right white Christian nationalist want you to believe that anyone who doesn't like your American thanksgiving must be evil, awful people. It's still no different than when they came over here. Spreading Christianity at the tip of the sword cuz thru knew as well as now that they can't just depend on the merits of Christianity to attract new converts. Back then it was convert or die. Now, Christian nationalist are using right wing politics and going against our constitution and ignore the first amendment to put their beliefs into laws. And it's already started. Tell me, what about any of that would native Americans like? You all are incapable of stepping outside of your own circumstances to see how things affect others.
That ignorance needs to be portrayed in their hero. Nothing was wrong with the functioning socialist society of America until the greed of European imperialism and capitalism infected it.
@@mythicfolfi4652 The fact that people, all people, have and still do fight and kill other people for territory. Same as any other animal on this planet.
For me, thanksgiving goes far beyond the food. And I love the food. It’s feasting on the old stories that I’ve heard my grandmother tell many times before. Reflecting on all the good things that happened over the past year and what I’ve learned from the hard things. Remembering the humorous and bonding stories between siblings. It’s making the food with my loved ones and sharing it around a table filled with love, that’s my favorite part. To the world, thanksgiving means stuffing your face and falling asleep on the couch with your pants undone. But to most of us thanksgiving is so much more.
I think there is a misinterpretation of the Thanksgiving Story. It was a rare moment of peace and friendship between the English settlers and Natives, granted a peace that wouldn't last a generation. Also, the Native Americans were fighting with each other and sought to add the English as allies for their own benefit. If you come across someone who claims that the Native Americans were peaceful until the Europeans arrive, show them the clip from Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, where Colonel Nelson Miles and Sitting Bull are meeting and discussing how the Sioux came out of the Minnesota Woodlands and took land from the Cheyenne and other tribes.
Scientists have even found tools predating their migration to the western world. Which means when they arrived here, they killed whoever was here before them lol.
I've seen that clip. This "identity politics" and whitewashing of history is part of the reason we are in the mess we are today. Not saying there wasn't atrocities - but even some blacks today in the USA can thank their brothers in Africa for the capture of their ancestors (if they are even related to anyone brought over during slavery, and not free migrants of their own will).
We have a similar problem with aboriginals in australia They get given so much more than everyone else but they still whinge What happened 2-3 hundred years ago happened, the worlds moved on, people a aware of what happened, the government gives about 5% of our gdp for them, for less than 2.4% of the population, THATS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
@@mythicfolfi4652 They still have a culture - but most these kids today can't even speak their native language so doesn't seem they really care about preserving it, just use it as an excuse for victim status.
@@mythicfolfi4652we do use them. We have nuclear subs traveling the entire globe and practice launching missiles. They were use in the 1991 Iraq war to launch Tomahawk missiles to destroy Iraq’s military. Yes, Tomahawk, where did we get that name?
Im a Gila River Community Member from AZ and i hate thanksgiving its a total white washed lie come to the reservation and see how thankful the whites are to us
WOW. He took that jug of koolaid and drank the whole thing. He really needs to go back and talk to his elders and ask them point blank if natives fought each other before the settlers arrived. Or he needs to talk to our Choctaw tribal elders to show him the truth. He needs to have his eyes opened to all the violence that archaeologists are proving every time they dig up “ancient” (pre-1492) tribal remains.
Christian Pilgrims bought the land from Indian's and asked how much for it since the Indian tribes knew the value of it. It was Democrat's like President Andrew Jackson that caused the trail of tears.😢
Even back then though, guns of that time weren't like guns of today. Reloading a gun took awhile. You could still get an arrow to the chest or your skull smashed in while you were reloading your gun.
Why post this? The fellow is not very articulate and that's with a whole lot of jump cuts forced into it. It just makes an honest fellow look bad. No different than showing someone from the south with the same issue of not being articulate and making them look bad.
As if the settlers really were more of the victims than Native Americans ever were besides this doesn’t just evolve around dangerous savage tries, go after anyone but a fair share of those who I’ve done them no wrong and so on. But the stupidest thing of all among them in the 21st-century is a great deal of Native Americans involved in politics these days are affiliated with the Democratic Party, which was the party mostly responsible for a great deal of Native American genocide specially since Andrew Jackson, one of the founders of the Democratic Party was responsible for the trail of tears when he signed into law, the Indian removal act of 1820 which forced a great deal of Native American tribes to leave their homelands in the south.
Native american tribes didn't fight for land. They fought for the rich "hunting grounds" and if those lands were rich in fauna and controlled by another tribe - well, that tribe was massacred or enslaved. The stronger tribe was the victor and 'to the victor belongs the spoils'.
Negative! He is wrong. The Aztecs where enslaving and sacrificing our other tribes but when they tried to fight with my peoples the purepecha they couldn’t defeat our people. There has been war since the beginning of time for every people and countries
My grandfather was American Indian. I’m sorry but we can’t live in the past. The guy is going to a school and It looks like it’s not an Indian school. He can’t have it both ways .
I wonder if he can even speak his NA language - or like most don't care about preserving the culture and uses his heritage just for victim card points?
Some strong legitimate statements in the comments but I’ll take it one step further. The term “Native American” is idiotic because no humans where native to the Americas. Our species originated in Africa.
I'm super glad he was able to discuss everything. Seems like a very intelligent guy and I'm glad both sides had a great discussion. I enjoy that more than anything
The pilgrims came here for religious freedom, not to steal land from the tribes. When they landed on November 11, 1620, it was close to winter, and they would have starved if the Patuxent tribe had not stored food. The village was empty because all the Patuxent had died of disease. Squanto had been kidnapped but eventually returned to his village, where he encountered the pilgrims. Because he lived in England, he knew English, and was treated well by them, that is why he showed benevolence to the pilgrims. It was in 1621 when they had the first Thanksgiving, the pilgrims being grateful to the Indians that they were still alive, after losing 46 of the 102 people who set out to sail to America. Most people don't know that Englishmen came over to New England to live so they could fish, then smoke or salt it and trade when the English ships returned in the spring. Samoset was an Abenaki who also knew English because of the settlers, and he traveled along the coast of Maine down to Massachusetts, trading as he went. American Indians and settlers got along well for quite a while. The reason that the Europeans were able to colonize America was because the native tribes did not band together to fight them off. It would be a different story if they had organized and fought the early settlers who came to these shores.
Anyone who thinks the natives were just all cool with each other should look at what the Comanche did to everyone and what the Apache had to do just to survive.
I understand his sentiment - but just as he says one version came from books, another version came from his granddad. A granddad who probably knew a grandfather or great-grandfather who was in battles with Union soldiers. I do know Native Americans before 1620 and 1492 were NOT living in some utopian peace and all kumbaya with each other. I do appreciate the gentleman sharing his views on it though.
Whatever, majority does not even care the real history nowadays, its more than a chance for family reunion and free food (if your not the host but please bring something for everyone still haha) 😂
Every Alive today is descended from a warlord.And slaver, before leaf Erickson landed in Canada.They had already killed off 95% of the other tribes.In fact, native Americans fought with the British because the British said that they could keep their slaves.
If there was always peace and they never fought, then why did they have warriors? Also why do we find graves of natives that has wounds from battle predating europeans?
I don't mind celebrating it, but we have to stop sanitizing and covering up real history here, it's tiring. There's a whole LOT more that happened both before AND after the events of Thanksgiving! Just tell people the whole truth already.
So if all Indians were peaceful before the pilgrims “white man” then why would they war against each other instead of fighting together against the white man?🤔 pilgrims didn’t come to conquer any one, they were looking for a place of refuge from tyranny and religious persecution. Did the white man do Indians wrong? In some cases yes but not all. 💯
"Thanksgiving myth", this description of events has been criticized by both Indigenous peoples of the United States and academic scholars for how it obfuscates history, particularly the relationships between the Pilgrims and the Indigenous people of the region.
Well, to be fair, i dont agree with it either an im white... Imagine how great america would be if our forefathers actually did what historically was done to the conquered instead of letting them survive and intermix with our culture. Imagine how awesome it would be if we didnt pander to subservient beta cultures.
Anglos should be giving Thanks to the Native Americans Indians who saved the Pilgrims from dying from lack of food. Later, the Native Americans saved George Washington and his soldiers from dying at Valley Forge, who had no food and lacked winter clothes. Were it not for the Native Americans, the British would have control of the present day U.S..
Not all NA - some were allied with the rebellion, some with the French, some with the British. I get your point, but it wasn't all NA as is implied in your post.
The Natives of America were famed and respected warriors...
If it was all peace before Europeans came...
Why... were they... great warriors?
Probably this dude talking about his region of his native american tribes was "peaceful" but definitely the plains native american were warriors and had fighting beliefs.
@TchHry The natives had rules of war. Some Native American groups practiced ritualistic cannibalism before Columbus, often tied to religious or cultural beliefs. The Aztecs consumed flesh from human sacrifices as part of honoring their gods, while evidence from the Ancestral Puebloans suggests cannibalism linked to rituals or famine. The Caribs in the Caribbean were accused of eating enemies, though these claims might have been exaggerated by Europeans to justify colonization. Cannibalism was rare and not widespread, with survival or symbolic reasons behind it. European accounts often distorted these practices to depict Native Americans as "savages" and legitimize their conquest.
Do you also condemn the savagery of western colonialism @everythingandmore5537
He belongs to a tribe that was conquered. Indian tribes fought and conquered each other for thousands of years.
Long before and long after the first Europeans set foot on the continent. They only stopped when conquered.
Same with the natives in South America. Their bloody human sacrifices ended when the euros stepped foot.
Not true....his elders and people on the reservation told him so
@@Custis3
😂👍🏼
If my ancestors had followed the law of conquest in the same way as Natives of the time. Assimilation would have been forced. Or death.
I'm Cherokee. It's totally fine. The "idea" is wonderful. Togetherness while being grateful. ❤
I'm over in West Tennessee - are you by chance on the East Side? I hope you and your family are ok from the hurricane that hit TN/NC.
How much u wanna bet you aren't cherokee and you're just a white dude who thinks he's native american to win white conservative points to fought "wokness energy"🫵😂
What are your thoughts on this channel denying indigenous American genocide?
I celebrate Thanksgiving because I'm grateful for all the blessings I've had for the whole year ✝️
He’s wrong for sure. But I at least have to give him credit for NOT throwing a tantrum like a lot of leftists and being willing to engage in a mature manner. That means there’s probably hope for him. That’s something I still kept when I played with some more left-leaning ideas, and because I was still willing to listen and have civil conversations, that’s how I learned why those ideas were wrong and changed my mind.
He seems like a decent guy who was just lied to his whole life.
@@kovy689 That's kind of what I was thinking.
@@kovy689 He's 99% of college students unfortunately on the part of being misinformed, but I was glad he took the time to engage and share his views. Sure there are untruths in the history books, just like there are untruths in what his ancestors told him. "Identity politics" never makes anything better. NA Reservations are completely screwed over by big government and selfish "leaders" - not much different than any other group the elites use to divide us against one another while lining their pockets on our collective suffering.
THIS, exactly!
@@kovy689u mean the interviewer was giving the whole story about what happened the "Thanksgiving" pretty biased
They had guerrilla tactics and war paint, some had slaves and some were cannibals. This guy is a fool.
NOT only that...native americans didn't believe in OWNING land! They also conquered each other! Whose land does the Mt. Rushmore belong to? His ignorance is astounding! Native americans enslaved their enemies as well! Native americans also owned black slaves!
@@vuarey Native tribes were scammed of their lands. True, they didn't believe in owning land, which the europeans didn't agree with, hence why the natives bent over like a lawn chair when the europeans first made contact. While Natives did conquor each other and take slaves, so did other european powers (spanish).
We scammed them with the walking purchase
We forced them through the trail of tears
When this country was born, part of our right to property involved their lands
We forced them into reservations
We committed genocide on many tribes
Let their voices not be forgotten.
Yup, he was grossly misled by his own family. Sad.
It’s my understanding that some tribes were willing to live in peace with their neighbors but others were more violent and confrontational. Maybe he’s from one of the peaceful tribes that was blessed to have neighbors who were also peaceful.
@@vuareythey didn’t own the land individually but if they rode their pony across it they believe it belonged to the tribe. This dudes full of garbage. They fought and treated each other like crap. He’s a liar and so are his elders.
Wow! I'm Native and I have to agree. This student truly is ignorant.
Most college students are unfortunately. Not denying there were some atrocities - but white washing NA history just to push "identity politics" doesn't help. Reservations are poorly ran and mismanaged - at the end of the day seems the government screws everything up for the common person, regardless of skin color, religion, sex, or any other attribute they use to divide us.
How can you be native and not know your own histories? The Puritans came in, and although yes relations where good at first, eventually after the population wipe out due to European diseases, that kindness quickly went away. The Europeans where the first agressors? Does none of that matter, they wiped out an entire culture, they wiped out my culture, just as they did yours.
@MrChesemis It's crazy that none of this would've happened if Europeans weren't totally back stabber to native american tribes. Like 600 broken peace treaty. None of this today native americans wouldn't had all these feelings about America
Thanksgiving is the thanks to God for providing.
Book,chapter,and verse?
@@MrBowen-ei3uu 1 Thessalonians 5:18: "Give thanks in all circumstances; for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you"
All Americans should be THANKFUL for the nation and its freedom and all the good things they have, served them by their former generations.
Yes!
Talk about misinformation. Native Americans did fight each other.
and doing horrible things to other tribes, and taking slaves.
Just Europeans back in Europe. Doesnt sound different @@bosse641
@@erenjaeger1738 ...the whole world has been like that forever. Nothing different about it. But these days the Crackers are getting all the blame. Go figure. And they call us the racists.
@@erenjaeger1738 ....I know, the whole world has done so through the ages. But these days only Whitey is getting the blame and the hate. Why is that ?
@@erenjaeger1738 .....I know, But why are the whites getting all the blame these days?
Native American here. Look, North America was going to get conquered eventually. Glad it was Europe rather than SE Asia. My tribe, Purepecha, was slave based, cannibalistic, and would sacrifice thousands for festivals. No thanks! I like literature, the wheel, electricity, not having to worry about being eaten, etc. I'm thankful for that!
Top comment of the day! You're smart.
My tribes were The Vikings of Southern Norway and we were also enslaving each other and neighboring clans and also practicing human sacrifice.
Thank God Christianity swept across our continent and saved us all from those horrible traditions!
We all have a lot of things to be thankful for on Thanksgiving!
"not having to worry about being eaten" - LMAO! Good one!
White man apologist. Learn your history.
And you're acting Europeans weren't do that crazy shii in Europe? Buddy hasn't heard the dark ages and the vikings, celtics were doing and many the pagans beliefs Europeans had. Let's not forget James Town did cannibals by Europeans and end up eating a girl. So nice try with your "I'm glad my ancestors were being genocide by Europeans ☝️🤓" 🫵😂
I can't believe that the Indian tribes lived in peace and harmony and only fought each other because of the Pilgrims, it doesn't pass the common sense test.
Human beings being human beings. Human nature doesn’t change. Humans are warring beings.
This man has been bamboozled by his own people and did not like it when someone showed up with a microphone.
I'm Navajo, thankful for the opportunity to thank GOD for another year of His provisions, I do thank Him daily. Thanksgiving and the pilgrims arrival was a positive impact on humanity.
Amen! Good insight.
No way you're navajo and don't know what actually happened when the Europeans arrived and met those tribes in the east 🫵😂
You like the impoverished reservations scattered across Arizona?
Ah...the lie of the Noble Savage....this guy is deluded. They had allies and enemies, and since they were human beings, conflicts that could not be negotiated were settled by war.
Lies?? Are you native American or at least an historian that specializes in native American culture and beliefs? Or, are you just agreeing with Prager cuz he's part of the Republican team? Cuz even the most ignorant fools could understand what native Americans would like thanksgiving or Columbus Day for that matter. And if I were black, I would probably be against it also. Far right white Christian nationalist want you to believe that anyone who doesn't like your American thanksgiving must be evil, awful people. It's still no different than when they came over here. Spreading Christianity at the tip of the sword cuz thru knew as well as now that they can't just depend on the merits of Christianity to attract new converts. Back then it was convert or die. Now, Christian nationalist are using right wing politics and going against our constitution and ignore the first amendment to put their beliefs into laws. And it's already started. Tell me, what about any of that would native Americans like? You all are incapable of stepping outside of your own circumstances to see how things affect others.
@chrispfeifer7628 your entire comment is a fallacy
@@devinchapman3855 not true
@@ShaquilleOatmeal94 what's not true?
That ignorance needs to be portrayed in their hero. Nothing was wrong with the functioning socialist society of America until the greed of European imperialism and capitalism infected it.
NA: “No man owns the lands of the earth. It belongs to Mother Nature.”
Also NA: “they took our land.”
Natives fought each other for land too…. There were definitely some tribes more peaceful than others. But they definitely killed each other.
He’s ignorant.
Ignorant of what?
@@mythicfolfi4652 The fact that people, all people, have and still do fight and kill other people for territory. Same as any other animal on this planet.
^ Watch the video first.
The first Thanksgiving was three days; one day cooking, one day eating, and one day washing dishes.
“Wanted our land”
Uh, I thought Natives believed land couldn’t be “owned”, guy?
Yeah! That’s why they didn’t want to Europeans kicking them off of it to claim it! Because for them, land didn’t belong to anyone!
For me, thanksgiving goes far beyond the food. And I love the food. It’s feasting on the old stories that I’ve heard my grandmother tell many times before. Reflecting on all the good things that happened over the past year and what I’ve learned from the hard things. Remembering the humorous and bonding stories between siblings. It’s making the food with my loved ones and sharing it around a table filled with love, that’s my favorite part. To the world, thanksgiving means stuffing your face and falling asleep on the couch with your pants undone. But to most of us thanksgiving is so much more.
I'm native America i love Thanksgiving i move on from the past i acknowledge the past and i enjoy event with my family
White guy account
I think there is a misinterpretation of the Thanksgiving Story. It was a rare moment of peace and friendship between the English settlers and Natives, granted a peace that wouldn't last a generation. Also, the Native Americans were fighting with each other and sought to add the English as allies for their own benefit.
If you come across someone who claims that the Native Americans were peaceful until the Europeans arrive, show them the clip from Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee, where Colonel Nelson Miles and Sitting Bull are meeting and discussing how the Sioux came out of the Minnesota Woodlands and took land from the Cheyenne and other tribes.
Scientists have even found tools predating their migration to the western world. Which means when they arrived here, they killed whoever was here before them lol.
I've seen that clip. This "identity politics" and whitewashing of history is part of the reason we are in the mess we are today. Not saying there wasn't atrocities - but even some blacks today in the USA can thank their brothers in Africa for the capture of their ancestors (if they are even related to anyone brought over during slavery, and not free migrants of their own will).
The myth of a wise and noble Indian is just that. A myth.
We have a similar problem with aboriginals in australia
They get given so much more than everyone else but they still whinge
What happened 2-3 hundred years ago happened, the worlds moved on, people a aware of what happened, the government gives about 5% of our gdp for them, for less than 2.4% of the population, THATS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
Wow these genocide victims always acting soooo unreasonably. All we did was intentionally destroy their culture!
@@mythicfolfi4652 you might have but I didn't
@@so3683 ok…
@@mythicfolfi4652 They still have a culture - but most these kids today can't even speak their native language so doesn't seem they really care about preserving it, just use it as an excuse for victim status.
@ yeah you kinda gotta cite a source for a claim like that. Nobody is only using their culture for victim status.
How come some were impressive warriors if they had never fought?
How come we have impressive nuclear subs if they’ve never been used?
@@mythicfolfi4652we do use them. We have nuclear subs traveling the entire globe and practice launching missiles. They were use in the 1991 Iraq war to launch Tomahawk missiles to destroy Iraq’s military. Yes, Tomahawk, where did we get that name?
@@wrexchicane8259 Ok so maybe they did use their warriors? Just not in, you know… war?
@@mythicfolfi4652 u lost
@@mythicfolfi4652 only u fought is diabetes
I’m an enrolled member of my tribe. I love Thanksgiving, and I’m okay with it lol.
What tribe are you from?
Swinomish (Coast Salish)
@@philipburke9929 Yes Iv'e heard of them
Im a Gila River Community Member from AZ and i hate thanksgiving its a total white washed lie come to the reservation and see how thankful the whites are to us
You don't have anything to be thankful for?
I wouldn’t be thankful for genocide
"but native american were doing it and it's okay for us whites to do it ☝️🤓"XD
Peace from the Native American community. AHO
Ahoy!
I have as much native American blood in me as Elizabeth Warren...so obviously I can speak for ALL native Americans 🤦🏿♂
Ha! Love it!
We wuz native and shiitzzz
WOW. He took that jug of koolaid and drank the whole thing.
He really needs to go back and talk to his elders and ask them point blank if natives fought each other before the settlers arrived. Or he needs to talk to our Choctaw tribal elders to show him the truth.
He needs to have his eyes opened to all the violence that archaeologists are proving every time they dig up “ancient” (pre-1492) tribal remains.
Christian Pilgrims bought the land from Indian's and asked how much for it since the Indian tribes knew the value of it. It was Democrat's like President Andrew Jackson that caused the trail of tears.😢
Native Americans and the invading Europeans were equal in savagery. The Europeans simply had guns.
Even back then though, guns of that time weren't like guns of today. Reloading a gun took awhile. You could still get an arrow to the chest or your skull smashed in while you were reloading your gun.
,the wheel, and horses.
They were bloodthirsty just like the colonists. Everybody was merciless.
I don’t think they were bloodthirsty… that seems like an attempt to say they deserved genocide
U didn't see native american placing white people in boarding school 🫵😂
Quit playing the blame game, get off your ass, and do something for yourself, and your people. Help them to move out of the dark ages.
What's up with the annoying music playing during their conversation ?
😂wow, what a fool🤣
Why post this? The fellow is not very articulate and that's with a whole lot of jump cuts forced into it. It just makes an honest fellow look bad. No different than showing someone from the south with the same issue of not being articulate and making them look bad.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂… just like other groups of ppl-changing history.
Who the heck cares what he thinks?
Really? You are still asking students for opinions? 🤦♀️
It's for a point.
What do u expect from this channel then?
Native Americans shouldn't have fought the settlers
As if the settlers really were more of the victims than Native Americans ever were besides this doesn’t just evolve around dangerous savage tries, go after anyone but a fair share of those who I’ve done them no wrong and so on.
But the stupidest thing of all among them in the 21st-century is a great deal of Native Americans involved in politics these days are affiliated with the Democratic Party, which was the party mostly responsible for a great deal of Native American genocide specially since Andrew Jackson, one of the founders of the Democratic Party was responsible for the trail of tears when he signed into law, the Indian removal act of 1820 which forced a great deal of Native American tribes to leave their homelands in the south.
They got the horse, the wheel, a written language, and Christianity.😊
They got genocide. They got their culture erased.
The jumpy cheerful background music is not in place, given the seriousness of the matter discussed.
Native american tribes didn't fight for land. They fought for the rich "hunting grounds" and if those lands were rich in fauna and controlled by another tribe - well, that tribe was massacred or enslaved. The stronger tribe was the victor and 'to the victor belongs the spoils'.
White man thinking
to be fair I wouldn't like a holiday centered around people who conquored my people
the holiday is giving thanks for life and food it's not about conquering
@@so3683 mb mb, started by people who conquered my people
And were also racists who jailed anyone who wasn't congragationalist
Negative! He is wrong. The Aztecs where enslaving and sacrificing our other tribes but when they tried to fight with my peoples the purepecha they couldn’t defeat our people. There has been war since the beginning of time for every people and countries
lol, i dont like history....
I think i’ll rewrite it
He probably still goes home from school during the Thanksgiving break, where his family has a big meal. But, he does not honor the holiday. Lol
My grandfather was American Indian. I’m sorry but we can’t live in the past. The guy is going to a school and It looks like it’s not an Indian school. He can’t have it both ways .
I wonder if he can even speak his NA language - or like most don't care about preserving the culture and uses his heritage just for victim card points?
I would say victim for sure ! 😂😂
Give me a break. You people will never ruin Thanksgiving. Don’t be jealous!!!
“You people” yeah you racist for sure
That native is just salty his people were conquered. Sucks to suck, and we won. Get over it.
If what he says is accurate about no tribal fighting, I would have to say that it would be the only place humans haven’t conquered their neighbors.
Well this turkey isn’t gambling at his tribe’s casino 🎰
Some strong legitimate statements in the comments but I’ll take it one step further. The term “Native American” is idiotic because no humans where native to the Americas. Our species originated in Africa.
so the native americans are the only true innocent people in the world. 😂 this guy is a clown.
He lost me at "our land".
Thanksgiving is about eating as much pie as you can. Period.
He knows the true history of his people because he is Native American and I’m White and I know the true history of my people.
I'm super glad he was able to discuss everything. Seems like a very intelligent guy and I'm glad both sides had a great discussion. I enjoy that more than anything
Dude acting like we don't own shovels 😂
I am a Native American and I love Thanksgiving .
Im pima and i hate thanksgiving
What tribe are you from?
@@RAWALITYwhy?
@@benjaminbingaman1848 Pima tribe Akimel O’otham
@@benjaminbingaman1848 thanksgiving is an insult are you thankful for the reservation the white man placed our many ancestors on and boarding schools?
The pilgrims came here for religious freedom, not to steal land from the tribes. When they landed on November 11, 1620, it was close to winter, and they would have starved if the Patuxent tribe had not stored food. The village was empty because all the Patuxent had died of disease. Squanto had been kidnapped but eventually returned to his village, where he encountered the pilgrims. Because he lived in England, he knew English, and was treated well by them, that is why he showed benevolence to the pilgrims. It was in 1621 when they had the first Thanksgiving, the pilgrims being grateful to the Indians that they were still alive, after losing 46 of the 102 people who set out to sail to America.
Most people don't know that Englishmen came over to New England to live so they could fish, then smoke or salt it and trade when the English ships returned in the spring. Samoset was an Abenaki who also knew English because of the settlers, and he traveled along the coast of Maine down to Massachusetts, trading as he went. American Indians and settlers got along well for quite a while. The reason that the Europeans were able to colonize America was because the native tribes did not band together to fight them off. It would be a different story if they had organized and fought the early settlers who came to these shores.
Ignorance is Bliss!
That’s the conservative mantra right there. Amen to that
Anyone who thinks the natives were just all cool with each other should look at what the Comanche did to everyone and what the Apache had to do just to survive.
my elders also told me i'm black panther.
the indians fought each other from the dawn of time, come on
I understand his sentiment - but just as he says one version came from books, another version came from his granddad. A granddad who probably knew a grandfather or great-grandfather who was in battles with Union soldiers. I do know Native Americans before 1620 and 1492 were NOT living in some utopian peace and all kumbaya with each other. I do appreciate the gentleman sharing his views on it though.
Native americans were first colonists from Siberia
Well this injun obviously doesnt like food xD
I wonder where he learned all that...and whatnot!
Whatever, majority does not even care the real history nowadays, its more than a chance for family reunion and free food (if your not the host but please bring something for everyone still haha) 😂
UCLA banners in the background, the English did not discover California until a century after Thanksgiving.
Famously California didn’t exist until being discovered by the English
Good one!
Sad that he's so misinformed about Native History, and he won't even enjoy a Thankful Holiday 😐
The justifications for native american genocide in this comment section is disgusting
the native americans and settlers were the best of friends. - the definition of revisionist history and propaganda.
“north american man complains”.
fixed it.
I'm native too. I'm a white guy born in Florida.
2:12
LOL
At this point I don’t care what his opinion is. That’s one ignorant guy, though, unbelievable.
Every Alive today is descended from a warlord.And slaver, before leaf Erickson landed in Canada.They had already killed off 95% of the other tribes.In fact, native Americans fought with the British because the British said that they could keep their slaves.
If there was always peace and they never fought, then why did they have warriors? Also why do we find graves of natives that has wounds from battle predating europeans?
I don't mind celebrating it, but we have to stop sanitizing and covering up real history here, it's tiring. There's a whole LOT more that happened both before AND after the events of Thanksgiving! Just tell people the whole truth already.
Oh well, too bad.
So if all Indians were peaceful before the pilgrims “white man” then why would they war against each other instead of fighting together against the white man?🤔 pilgrims didn’t come to conquer any one, they were looking for a place of refuge from tyranny and religious persecution. Did the white man do Indians wrong? In some cases yes but not all. 💯
You are being lied to
"Thanksgiving myth", this description of events has been criticized by both Indigenous peoples of the United States and academic scholars for how it obfuscates history, particularly the relationships between the Pilgrims and the Indigenous people of the region.
Well, to be fair, i dont agree with it either an im white... Imagine how great america would be if our forefathers actually did what historically was done to the conquered instead of letting them survive and intermix with our culture.
Imagine how awesome it would be if we didnt pander to subservient beta cultures.
I wonder if any Native Americans care what White Americans think about their cultural celebrations?
I love Thanksgiving!
Thats not true Indian tribes were taking over indian tribes before the europeans came.
White washing
That dude is ignorant
Ah, the "Peaceful Savage" myth. How naive.
It is too bad all he heard was negative & not true....
Who lying now ?
Your wrong..get your history correct...
Thats loser talk.
what a sick joke of a video
Fun Fact: All "native american indians" are descendants of people who migrated from Asia 😆
I guess that makes me a native american european 😂
Bearing Sea migration has been disproven - think they used DNA analysis to debunk it.
Anglos should be giving Thanks to the Native Americans Indians who saved the Pilgrims from dying from lack of food.
Later, the Native Americans saved George Washington and his soldiers from dying at Valley Forge, who had no food and lacked winter clothes.
Were it not for the Native Americans, the British would have control of the present day U.S..
Not all NA - some were allied with the rebellion, some with the French, some with the British. I get your point, but it wasn't all NA as is implied in your post.
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