I am kind of curious about the muse. Haven't had a chance to experience it yet. The local Guitar Center has the Polybrute 12, Model D, the Matriarch (black edition), and they even have the UB-Xa, but no Muse in sight. They used to have the One and the OB-X8 on display, but no more. I am very impressed with the One in terms of the system architecture. The One has a separate microprocessor for each voice containing the VCO and VCF chips. I am wondering if the Muse has a similar architecture. I must say I like the sound of the Matriarch and its semi-modular capabilities. But of course, the Model D seems unbeatable for the bass lines. Anyway, my point is, I haven't been able to find the Muse yet in any of the music stores to try it out for myself, to see what the look and feel is, what the keybed is like, etc. I am not much of a Moog person, I must admit. I had the Voyager OS some years ago, but I sold it. It wasn't my thing. But the Muse makes me curious and intrigued. Oh, I haven't had a chance to experience the Prologue, either. For some reason I haven't encountered one yet in a store, and by now, it's probably too late, since the Prologue has been discontinued. From the UA-cam videos I've seen, the Prologue sounds fantastic. I've heard some rumors about the Prologue Mk.2 being planned, but not sure if these rumors are true. Korg gave a big surprise with their Fisa Suprema accordion, which is basically a further development of the Roland FR-8x V-Accordion. Times are good, so many good instruments around.
The Muse sounds great and has a lot of nice features. I think it has the same keybed as the Matriarch. Build quality is great. That being said, it's no match for a Moog One (as reflected in it being priced about 1/3 of a One.) It has limited memory (only 256 presets) and with only 8 voices, you should get used to how it handles voice stealing if you're big on chords. The operating system is crude compared to the One, with a tiny display and significant menu diving to find things. All updates require it to be plugged into a computer where it is recognized as an external hard drive. You then have to copy files back and forth. Highly suggest you backup and rename the firmware file before you overwrite it with the new one of the same name, or there's no going back. If you have a lot of presets you'll have to get used to copying them back and forth since the limit is 16 banks of 16. It spite of its limitations, it's still a keeper for me, but I'll never let go of my One for the Muse.
@@GetsemaniMusic Thank you Sir for the clarifications. Yes, the One is one a kind. Same thing goes for the Model D. But, I have to get that Prologue thing out of my system first, before I look any further. There is one [Prologue] brand new on eBay at the moment. So, I might need to pull the trigger on that one, and maybe go for the Muse if the IRS is kind enough to give me some tax refund next year.
I agree that the One is way more polished and refined UX/Firmware, and build quality is way more premium. But for my taste, the sound of the One is not what I look for a Moog (even if before they only had the Poly and Memory Moog). The sound is very digital sounding, its oscillators which are a new topography don’t have any resemblance to its Moog lineage). Plus the One I feel is great for ambient, cinematic, not rock, funk, synth-pop that are my type of genres. I did sell my One 8 voice once I got the Muse.
@adrianmuller4189 Well, let's face it, most modern digital polyphonic synthesizers are mostly digital. The difference between a modern polyphonic analog synthesizer and a digital synthesizer is that it has VCO and VCF integrated circuits at the end end of the audio path, whereas digital synthesizers have and digital-to-analog converter chip. Without digital control, the modern polyphonic synthesizers would be unplayable and nearly impossible to calibrate. Also, the reason that instruments such as Korg Prologue sound so fantastic are their digital effects processors, with various modulation effects such as chorus, phaser, or flanger. I am personally leaning more towards digital synthesizers such as the Jupiter-X and Juno-X, although I must say that the Prologue definitely caught my eye (and ear). The Muse is a little bit different proposition, with limited polyphony, but with more advanced oscillator capabilities than the Prologue. But as I said, I really have to try out one in person to decide if I want it or not. I had a Moog product in the past, and I must say I have no regrets that I sold it.
@@dvamateur yeap, I re read my comment and the main point I wanted to say, that I agree with Getsemani, except for the sound, at least for my taste that is where the Muse kicks the ass of the One. One has more features, great OS, premium materials, but don´t like the Oscillators, they don't capture the Moog sound.
The Matriarch would probably pair better with the Muse for comparison. The Voyager is more in line with the Model D. The Voyager and Muse have very little in common.
@@GetsemaniMusic I wonder how close one get muse to voyager as moog was telling there was many parts taken or developed based on voyager. I really like the sound of voyager. But do you think it is not possible to get same kind of lead sound out of the muse? Thanks 🙏
Thx for this. Maybe a dumb question but... Unlike, say, a DSI synth, there aren't an equal amount of empty spots to throw these into in order to audition them. There are only 32 empty spots. How would you audition these w/o removing existing factory presets?
@@crumpocket when plugged into a computer with USB, the Muse becomes an external hard drive. Back up everything on your computer first, then drag what you want from the computer to the Muse. If you don’t want to overwrite the original factory presets you could drag two banks at a time to the user banks (15 and 16.)
I'm still low on the learning curve with the Muse, but I'm already impressed by some of its innovative features. If you've seen my studio, you know I'm not one to return things. Every synth has its own character, strengths, and weaknesses. Together they are amazing. The Muse is no match for the One. It only has half the oscillators and a much more primitive operating system, but it still offers enough unique character to become a key member of the collection.
Possibly because it was. A lot of the presets have some radical modulation that bends notes using aftertouch or the mod wheel but the first 3 installments of this series were recorded with the Muse right out of the box. After several comments both here and in other forums that a lot of people thought their Muse’s were out of tune I decided to run the onboard calibration and tuning routine (which takes 2 hours) and I think it now sounds better. See if you notice any difference starting with the video for Bank 4.
Love the music but the light makes me sick 😅
I tried doing it in the dark and almost strangled myself with my patch cables! 🤣
I am kind of curious about the muse. Haven't had a chance to experience it yet. The local Guitar Center has the Polybrute 12, Model D, the Matriarch (black edition), and they even have the UB-Xa, but no Muse in sight. They used to have the One and the OB-X8 on display, but no more.
I am very impressed with the One in terms of the system architecture. The One has a separate microprocessor for each voice containing the VCO and VCF chips. I am wondering if the Muse has a similar architecture. I must say I like the sound of the Matriarch and its semi-modular capabilities. But of course, the Model D seems unbeatable for the bass lines.
Anyway, my point is, I haven't been able to find the Muse yet in any of the music stores to try it out for myself, to see what the look and feel is, what the keybed is like, etc. I am not much of a Moog person, I must admit. I had the Voyager OS some years ago, but I sold it. It wasn't my thing. But the Muse makes me curious and intrigued.
Oh, I haven't had a chance to experience the Prologue, either. For some reason I haven't encountered one yet in a store, and by now, it's probably too late, since the Prologue has been discontinued. From the UA-cam videos I've seen, the Prologue sounds fantastic. I've heard some rumors about the Prologue Mk.2 being planned, but not sure if these rumors are true. Korg gave a big surprise with their Fisa Suprema accordion, which is basically a further development of the Roland FR-8x V-Accordion. Times are good, so many good instruments around.
The Muse sounds great and has a lot of nice features. I think it has the same keybed as the Matriarch. Build quality is great.
That being said, it's no match for a Moog One (as reflected in it being priced about 1/3 of a One.) It has limited memory (only 256 presets) and with only 8 voices, you should get used to how it handles voice stealing if you're big on chords. The operating system is crude compared to the One, with a tiny display and significant menu diving to find things.
All updates require it to be plugged into a computer where it is recognized as an external hard drive. You then have to copy files back and forth. Highly suggest you backup and rename the firmware file before you overwrite it with the new one of the same name, or there's no going back.
If you have a lot of presets you'll have to get used to copying them back and forth since the limit is 16 banks of 16.
It spite of its limitations, it's still a keeper for me, but I'll never let go of my One for the Muse.
@@GetsemaniMusic Thank you Sir for the clarifications. Yes, the One is one a kind. Same thing goes for the Model D. But, I have to get that Prologue thing out of my system first, before I look any further. There is one [Prologue] brand new on eBay at the moment. So, I might need to pull the trigger on that one, and maybe go for the Muse if the IRS is kind enough to give me some tax refund next year.
I agree that the One is way more polished and refined UX/Firmware, and build quality is way more premium. But for my taste, the sound of the One is not what I look for a Moog (even if before they only had the Poly and Memory Moog). The sound is very digital sounding, its oscillators which are a new topography don’t have any resemblance to its Moog lineage). Plus the One I feel is great for ambient, cinematic, not rock, funk, synth-pop that are my type of genres. I did sell my One 8 voice once I got the Muse.
@adrianmuller4189 Well, let's face it, most modern digital polyphonic synthesizers are mostly digital. The difference between a modern polyphonic analog synthesizer and a digital synthesizer is that it has VCO and VCF integrated circuits at the end end of the audio path, whereas digital synthesizers have and digital-to-analog converter chip. Without digital control, the modern polyphonic synthesizers would be unplayable and nearly impossible to calibrate. Also, the reason that instruments such as Korg Prologue sound so fantastic are their digital effects processors, with various modulation effects such as chorus, phaser, or flanger. I am personally leaning more towards digital synthesizers such as the Jupiter-X and Juno-X, although I must say that the Prologue definitely caught my eye (and ear). The Muse is a little bit different proposition, with limited polyphony, but with more advanced oscillator capabilities than the Prologue. But as I said, I really have to try out one in person to decide if I want it or not. I had a Moog product in the past, and I must say I have no regrets that I sold it.
@@dvamateur yeap, I re read my comment and the main point I wanted to say, that I agree with Getsemani, except for the sound, at least for my taste that is where the Muse kicks the ass of the One. One has more features, great OS, premium materials, but don´t like the Oscillators, they don't capture the Moog sound.
Would be nice to hear muse and voyager comparison
The Matriarch would probably pair better with the Muse for comparison. The Voyager is more in line with the Model D. The Voyager and Muse have very little in common.
@@GetsemaniMusic I wonder how close one get muse to voyager as moog was telling there was many parts taken or developed based on voyager. I really like the sound of voyager. But do you think it is not possible to get same kind of lead sound out of the muse? Thanks 🙏
I’ll see what I can do to compare leads from the Muse, One, Model D, Voyager, Grandmother and Matriarch in a future video.
@@GetsemaniMusic great to hear. That sounds interesting!
Thx for this. Maybe a dumb question but... Unlike, say, a DSI synth, there aren't an equal amount of empty spots to throw these into in order to audition them. There are only 32 empty spots. How would you audition these w/o removing existing factory presets?
@@crumpocket when plugged into a computer with USB, the Muse becomes an external hard drive. Back up everything on your computer first, then drag what you want from the computer to the Muse. If you don’t want to overwrite the original factory presets you could drag two banks at a time to the user banks (15 and 16.)
@@GetsemaniMusic Thx for the quick response. Will do 2 banks at a time.
How are you linking the Muse compared to the One? Do you think you will return the Muse?
I'm still low on the learning curve with the Muse, but I'm already impressed by some of its innovative features. If you've seen my studio, you know I'm not one to return things. Every synth has its own character, strengths, and weaknesses. Together they are amazing. The Muse is no match for the One. It only has half the oscillators and a much more primitive operating system, but it still offers enough unique character to become a key member of the collection.
Why does it all sound out of tune?
Possibly because it was. A lot of the presets have some radical modulation that bends notes using aftertouch or the mod wheel but the first 3 installments of this series were recorded with the Muse right out of the box. After several comments both here and in other forums that a lot of people thought their Muse’s were out of tune I decided to run the onboard calibration and tuning routine (which takes 2 hours) and I think it now sounds better. See if you notice any difference starting with the video for Bank 4.