The defense attorney is not winning any points by shaming the victim in this case. This poor kid survived a knife attack perpetrated (evidently) by his client. Embarrassing him about not having a job or money is unnecessary towards the defense of his client, and it makes him look mean and desperate.
@@La_Ru-yg8es Me too, I'm still watching this. I've had to pause it several times during the cross examination as I was getting irritated so I would go and stress clean for a bit then come back and watch a few minutes more, then pause.... I'm very interested in this case, I'm addicted to crime stories, court cases, crime documentaries, true crime shows, crime UA-cam channels ect....but watching this young man go through all this nasty questioning like you said is definitely bringing out the mama bear in me as well.
I am terribly sorry you have had to overcome this enormous trauma, Joel. Your testimony of your nightmare has left me completely shocked and speechless. Prayers for healing and peace. Please know you are meant to be happy in this life.
I definitely feel bad for what this man has endured, don't get me wrong. That being said..i would've never, left my girlfriend behind to die he'd had to kill me too.
Nobody can say with absolute certainty what or how they would react when you’re looking at certain death. I’m glad he was able to call 911 and that he survived. May Sabrina & her mom Rest In Peace. 🌺 🕊 🕊
@@emilyflotilla931 Yes, very true. The boyfriend, Joel Kennedy was in fight or flight mode. I hope you are doing well, Emily. I have not seen you around much! This is a sad case. 😢
For arguments sake...are all of the lies part of of his reaction too? Or is he trying to look like a hero? I can tell you this much for sure, (if you've ever been on jury duty, you'll get this), his testimony is basically trash. Not that it's going to play a huge role in guilt or innocence, but this guy may as well have been an accomplice. This jury probably hates him as a witness, for me personally, I already dismissed it when he said he was standing in the same spot when he was attacked, I don't believe that for a second. There is no way this guy watched a dude run out of the laundry room, attack his gf on the other side of the bar, and just stood there to take his turn. This was even before he got called out for lying. After all of that, I just believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Just my opinion, go easy on me please. 😃 He was running for HIS life, more likely he was being chased around, so just say that bro, cut for me, nothing could be worse than what you are said in any of your statements. At any rate, it is what it is, to bad it fell on mostly deaf ears.
Jeffery Andrews yes! I agree with you 100%! I haven’t seen cross examination yet but when he said he was standing there while she got stabbed I scratched my head so thank you for clearing that up nicely! :)
My daughter is a general manager of a bank, a man came in with a gun in his hand and a man followed him in, he turned the gun on that man and my daughter immediately went and stood in front of him and asked him to give her the gun he refused of course , but the bank was full and even children in there, so she kept talking to him, finally the man behind her said to her settle down superwoman I've got this and she looked at him and he was showing her his badge on inside of his jacket. Turns out he was getting ready to arrest the bankrobber.
I think a lot of people take his demeanor as being uncaring. That’s so unfair. I feel bad for him too. He’ll be scarred for life, literally and figuratively.
That is the main thing I find very hard to excuse In all of this! He had finally gotten the upper advantage on the killer that he hit to the floor , so then why not continue in finishing him off for your safety’s. Also his adrenaline had to already been running high on account of hitting him with the shovel, So why not just keep going at him fearing that there life’s depended on it ! How did he go from there to running away from him again ! That was so cowardly!! I only hope n pray that our military forces are not full of more young men like him !! 🤦🏻♀️
You know some people have actually been in those kind of situations and would do something completely different then leave a helpless female outside while she is being murdered. Just because you wouldn't have the courage doesn't mean nobody would.
I agree! For Heavens sake. Not only was he attacked by surprise and stabbed he also lost his girlfriend and her mother. He may have survivors guilt and PTSD for the rest of his life.
Honestly thats so awful what he went through but there is zero percent chance i would lock my girlfriend in a garage with a killer... I feel worse for her then anyone my god watching that door shut and the person u love run away after all she had done to help this kid.... Wow
I know right!? This guy is a coward and that poor girl would have been do scared watching her supposed boyfriend run for his life, leaving her for dead and locking her in the garage knowing she was going to die!
I can't believe he did that!!! And then ran out of the house. Yes he called 911 but she needed help that second its not like she was in a safe place you locked her in the garage!!!
He definitely isn't an "honorable" man, but he did what he did. Legally, if your life is in immediate danger, in most places, you are no longer required to put the safety of another as a priority. Sure, had she lived, she probably would have dumped him. That said, Cayer is actually disconnected from reality. Glad Joel survived and could serve as a witness to this mess. Sunny did nothing to deserve this.
I would have proceeded to beat him to death with that shovel not run into house and lock the door with my girl outside he would definitely die or be beaten into a inch of his life I would stop till police arrived
Hindsight's 20/20. So many are critical of this guy's reaction. He was trying to get somewhere to call for help, smartest thing to do in my opinion! Unfortunately, his girlfriend died but my guess would be they both would have been dead had he not ran to call for help.
Wrong. He hit him with the shovel and he fell down. Why not grab your girlfriend that was clearly injured?! He locked her in the garage with a lunitac!! Can u imagine her trying to open the door but was locked?!
@@strawberryhair4164 we all never know how we would react in a similar circumstance, we can pass judgement, yes i do believe once he hit him with the shovel he should have kept hitting him until he couldn't no longer move this may have saved his girlfriend, like i said this is my opinion, i had a guy tried to get in a house that me and 2 other teenagers was in babysitting, it took all 3 of us to shut the door, we had to work together against him. then he went around the back of the house to break a window which us three was smart enough to get all 3 children in the living room with us and phoned the police, but when he broke the back bedroom window all three of us ran with each of us holding 1 child each, we was lucky the neighbour was actually a cop, she phoned it in and went into police mode . they caught him inside the house. see no one knows how one will react until you go through it, yes he was convicted and served time. i never want to live that night ever again
@@valentinehartley6755 sorry to hear you went through all that. You were all so very brave & glad he was caught. I agree noone knows what you would do in that sort of situation. This guys reaction was probably shock. He saw what he had done to the mother & he tried to hit him. He was being attacked by a complete nutter , he probably didnt like having to hit the guy. Not everyone reacts the same way. I wouldnt like to have been in that situation. Prayers to everyone🙏
Great testimony ! Poor fella ! Witnessing this horrible tragedy. I’m sure he was terrified , hurting and bleeding all over the house like this. Jacob needs to be put away so he can not harm anyone else. Knives are a horrific way to die. I’ve had a loved one stabbed to death. I hate knives for this reason. Rest In Peace Sunny and Sabrina!
I’m sure he was terrified too, BUT I’m sure the girl you left in a garage WITH THE KILLER 😂 who was barely breathing from her fighting from the beginning,, I’m sorry this guys only PTSD IS leaving his girlfriend to die, please, unheard of
@@RocketRocket-ce3ke That's true ...i'd hope I would find the strength to help others apart from myself .... I'd not lock anyone out and run away .. He had hit him with a shovel I'd have attempted to collect my loved one ...
U never know how u would react in moments of shock. I know I’ve been there. Ur body is being flooded with all kind of chemicals and it makes it hard to think clearly. It sound good as y’all sit and watch and talk about what u would’ve done but again unless put in that situation U DO NOT KNOW!
@@shaysaysgo9122 well I know for a fact I would not lock my loved one outside ...And watch them perish ..By his own testimony he had knocked him to the ground with a shovel... Most human reactions would be to take them to safety .
Why is it that all I can think of is him locking the door leaving her (his girlfriend) all alone to die! What if she tried to get back in and felt the door locked that feeling of complete defeat before death, all because your man locked u out?! I just can’t wrap my head around it.
Same. I can't get the visual out of my mind either. Poor girl geeze! What a man he is. Omg...had to add this @57:10 He literally ran passed her while she was being attacked. This just keeps getting worse and worse...Poor girl RIP Sabrina
@@hunniefacexo674 yes that's right I think I read a comment that he did.....but even closing the door on her with that maniac is just as bad. I dont understand tho...he knocked him with the shovel and didn't grab his girlfriend
He tried for Gods sake and bashed the killer with a shovel!!! He was terrified! He will suffer the rest of his life with pain from his stab wounds and trauma from witnessing murder. God Bless you Son❤️🙏❤️
Suzy Boone They we’re both badly wounded . He had a severed artery and was bleeding out and she was already mortally wounded. And he was terrified. I was terrified just looking at how crazy and arrogant Cayer is. When you want to survive you do whatever you have to do. Unfortunately everyone is cut out to be a superhero. He knew if he didn’t run to get to a safe place he would also have been dead to. It was a foot long knife. She was already mortally wounded. When your dealing with a crazy person his little pocket knife would have been useless. ....No wonder his mother cries! Very sad situation and he’s very very lucky he had a cell phone or he would also be dead.
@Jonathan Edward Good points. One of the things that bothered me about the attorney is that he did not instruct his client properly on how to speak and answer questions while on the stand. He let Cayer ramble on and on and did not intervene when Cayer was obviously digging his own grave with his cuss words, gestures and pompous attitude. People in the chat said that is because he may have been trying to let Cayer look crazy so that he will be seen as mentally ill. In his case though, Cayer showed himself to be cognitive of his actions and answers and had a good memory whereas he was trying to prove he didnt at the scene of the crime but that backfired on him. So I feel that in the end the Defense attorney let him down. Don't get me wrong I'm not on Cayers side but the stupidity of his attorney is mind boggling.
Love the prosecutor. Cool, calm, collected, Nice flow. He delivered questions carefully and delicately to this poor victim. just seems like a nice guy.
Wow he didn’t try and help when the mum was discovered , didn’t do nothing when the girlfriend was getting stabbed and only acted when he come after him ....great boyfriend goals (not)
As a human you react to life threatening events in one of three ways, fight, flight or freeze. I would guarantee that most of the people saying they would have done differently probably wouldn’t. You have no idea how you’d react until I’m said situation. Logic goes out the door and you are now in survival mode.
No He didn’t do the things we say he should have done ,sitting in our homes safe from immediate danger but he did do one thing and that was he was able to call 911 and get that murdering d*ckhead arrested. I’m sure he lives with the guilt of not saving his girlfriend.
The new boyfriend...hit the knife wielding ex-boyfriend that was stabbing then ran back into the house...locking the door....leaving Sabrina to take on the stabbing ex by herself!!! What a coward...that guy could've saved her....but instead hid inside the locked house!!! WOW!!!
Seriously, get your facts straight and snap out of your made-for-TV movie version of homicides. He punched and kicked a knife-wielding maniac and was stabbed in his arm that severed a main artery and tendons making that arm completely useless. He was also losing blood rapidly. ( See the photo of the kitchen. You can see three large sprays of his blood on the floor) He was stabbed with such force the knife went completely through his arm and cut his chest. Despite that, he does his best to get a weapon to protect her and when he hit the killer with the shovel the killer went down. Then he did the best thing he could do...he called 911. The sooner they are called the sooner she would get medical treatment. You don't know which wounds she had already suffered, any one of which could have been fatal. "That guy could have saved her" ...He's human, not a magician. Come back to reality.
@El diablo da Costa She was down too with multiple stab wounds. He had one good arm. What was he supposed to do, wave a magic wand and get her up? Not being super-human makes him a coward? You too appear to have been conditioned by knight in shining armor fairy tales. Come back to reality.
I thought I heard that too and then they said he didn’t. I think. Either way. He did leave her with him while he hide in the bathroom. I bet she thought she was safe being there with him. Not so much
One night on a country road my wife, daughter, step son, and I were driving to my brothers. An oncoming car had a deer jump out in front of them which they hit into my lane. We never saw the deer until it was in front of the bumper on its side and my car jumped over it. I kept control of the car and pulled to the side. The other driver stopped a quarter mile down the road and waited for 2 minutes and then took off. They never checked on us and can only guess they were probably drunk or had some reason to not stick around for the law. I do not spook easily but how fast and catastrophic the accident was had me in a state of shock. It took me over a minute to remember my unlock code on my phone. It took me another 1 minute to put in the code because my hands were shaking so bad I could not accurately touch the screen to enter the 4 pin codes. Then I struggled going through my contacts to find my brothers number. The point being I could have walked that country road at night by myself and not been scared but due to that unexpected catastrophe nerves took over so I can understand this kid panicking and doing what he needed to do to get away.
Wait. I’m confused. He hit him with a shovel and then left Sabrina in the garage with him with locked doors while he hid in the bathroom? Is this right? I know we all react different but m....I guess every man for himself what his thought process.
This guy #1 is cold as ice, no emotions at all! #2 Not once did he say he was worried about Sabrina leaving her alone with Jacob! Why didn't he fight for her life?!?!?!?! He didn't love her, if he had he would've manned up and fought Jacob and told Sabrina to run and call 911 !!! I just don't get it! I can PROMISE YOU if this was my Father and Mother being attacked , My FATHER would've fought his a$$ off to protect my Mother!
Exactly unfortunately for this reason it is more enjoyable to get to go to court, usually get McDonald's or other food at court and something else to do and fill his days with
@@bowlingbbabe I used to work at a Juvenile Facility and adult prisons are pretty much ran the same. He would get a bag lunch from the jail. But yeah otherwise it could be one of the many reasons. But i think he just wants to attempt to make himself look human rather then a monster since his mental illness defense failed . He's already admitted to it the murders.. It's like he blamed his ex girlfriend for all the problems he had for the past 6 months and the arguments with dad was the last straw.. I would like to know more about his childhood relationship with pets if he had any. And of course hear what his friends if he had any... My guess this wouldn't come until sentencing depending on the way they do things there. It will be 2 life sentences for sure. This is going to be a very short jury deliberation. They may even decide the sentence not sure how it works in that state.
You have a survivor, that says Jacob did this. Jacob was found cowering in the bushes by the house covered in blood. I don’t understand how this defense lawyer thinks he can even try and get this guy out of this
He also had a through and through stab wound that severed a main artery. Calling 911 instead of bleeding to death increased the likelihood that EMT's would get there faster and cops would be able to arrest the killer which they did.
@@honeydip6355 Wow... You weren't there, you have no idea what you would do in a horrific situation as he was in. He was stabbed horribly. How dare you be so judgmental.
@@crayCray420 Exactly. I can't believe some of these horrid comments judging this young man who was stabbed! No one knows how you would act in this horrible situation unless you've lived through it.
Joel is clearly not a violent person that's why he didn't continue hitting the man with the shovel and why he didn't think of using the knife. Most humans will not turn into violent stabbing psychopaths even when put in this type of horrific situation. Joel your life is important and your good heart shows through. I am glad that you lived to tell everyone what happened and you helped get your friends justice today.
He just stood there behind the counter and didn't try to help her . Then he goes and gets a shovel and hits him and locks his girlfriend out there with the killer . He thinks only about himself. Glad he ain't my boyfriend !
So sorry for your loss Joel, but happy you survived such a horrific attack. May God continue to bless you and keep you safe. I wish you happiness and love in this life.
This poor boy Joel will need lots of counselling its a shame that he didn't have a gun to defend himself as this man clearly wanted to kill him. If it was me and I was stabbed through the arm and all over then seeing my girlfriend and her mother dead I don't think I would remember half he has, it's not something you forget in a hurry!!! It's horrendous. Don't know why he's even getting a trial when it's clear he's guilty. :O(
Because that's our legal system and we all get a choice to defend our criminal offenses and not your choice to decide on my fate or options I have to defend myself because I am clearly guilty! We all have the right to a trial.
@@englishrose212 He could only take a deal if he was offered one. The prosecutor has no reason to deal a horrific double murder with a surviving witness, a confession, and DNA evidence.
I’m trying to get my head round it too, the only thing I can think is that he had severed tendons and a main artery, it’s possible he couldn’t hold the shovel any longer through injury, but also because blood is slippery. He doesn’t say though.
He had severe blood loss (look at the kitchen floor), was stabbed right through his arm and into his heart. He was almost certainly losing consciousness and could have died. In these extreme circumstances your instincts take over your actions to protect your own life.
There was a time where maturity was seen as a virtue, and childishness reserved for children. In the 1980s, immaturity and irresponsibility became a virtue.
So sad he didn’t keep hitting him to save her. So why did he have so many different statements? Seems like he was a great boyfriend smh saying he was attacked first was a big difference than what he is saying now. Wtf his story is so out there, I think he is trying to make it sound better than he left her to die
This guy's clearly on the spectrum, but autism is no excuse for cowardice. How did she ever wind up dating these rotten creeps? One kills you while the other runs and hides!
So he should have stayed out there and died as well? We wouldn’t have a trial now if he did. Chances are Cayre would have gotten away with it. I, myself, would have done differently than him, because I have the training. Not everyone thinks straight in such a crisis. It’s bad enough that he had to go through what he did, without people like you shaming him.
@@TampaJohn I've noticed that similar people are quick to defend their kind. For instance, you're defending this dude's cowardly actions. Only another coward would do such a thing. And tekashi 6 9. That 🐀 has other 🐀 s defending his snitching. Birds of a feather I guess
What a poor excuse for a man! Run and hide while his girlfriend is murdered. He was just using the two women for a roof and food. If he had cared at all about the poor woman she would be alive. He needs to be in jail for being a coward.
Granted I would guess myself personally have approach the situation differently but no one ever really knows. I’d love to hear your harrowing tales of heroic acts though.
He didnt do anything he got stabbed in the kitchen and ran right into the bedroom n locked her out behind moms room n the bathroom tht going outside to the garage n leaving getting a shovel is bs he wa just trying to save face n not the coward tht he truly is n was
What a good witness, short succinct answers. Much better than the long winded defendant who held his microphone like a goober and flapped the other hand around as if conducting an orchestra.
Defense lawyer. So you had a pocket knife. Why didn't you use the pocket knife? Well... Duh, because he Cayer had a HUGE BUTCHER KNIFE! Defense attorney is a real piece of work!
Why’s he’s running across the house and garage for a shovel when he has a knife??? 🧐. Wonder if he ever used that shovel around their house doing yard work? Wonder if he left out the front door without shoes, since he took them off in the garage when he entered the house? Wonder if the “friend” that was suppose to come over to watch tv/movies was ever contacted that night? Joel lied to the police on more than one occasion, 4 or 5 different statements?
Can you imagine what this young man has gone through? He lost his love and he lost her mum whom I would imagine he felt affection for. When the attorney asked how he felt he said he was terrified. Defense lawyer isn't interested in the truth. He's obviously interested in discrediting this young man. When did criminal justice become just about winning?
@@citrusbloom7504 and why was mom letting dudes live with her daughter under her roof?! based on his testimony they knew each other a month before shacking up and moving in?
@@lafordgirl7549 : I'm right there with you. So many bad choices. I think the daughter was too nice, a bit of low self esteem. These lumps had no jobs, riding around on bicycles at 30 yrs old. Some 'serious' red flags, mom should have been putting her foot down hard. As in get your own place if you want to be a 'shack up honey'.
You don’t know how you’ll react to a situation until you’re in it the mind is in shock he did his best Joel I freeze when I’m scared and can’t speak I can’t imagine what his mind was doing
He was extremely traumatized defecto team. He admits to inconsistencies, he was in severe fear and shock he did what he felt he needed to do in that moment. Had he kept hitting the perp with the shovel and killed him even though it would appear self defence the defence would have then said so you killed my client overkill- ridiculous! This victim is very credible and brave for telling the truth and facing his attacker.
Wow that's sad he's going to feel like he abandoned Sabrina to die in the garage alone with Jacob when he ran away and locked the door for the rest of his life.
The guy don't deserve to be with nobody. 1st you stand up and watched her get attacked and stabbed then you let the attacker just walk up on you and stab you then you locked your girlfriend in the garage with the killer bro? Like really
Something is so off about this guy... His flat affect is disturbing, and I was already wondering if he weren't the perpetrator, which considering his position in the household as freeloading, nonworking boyfriend of the homeowner's daughter, would not be astounding, and then they brought up about him youtube-ing the song "Famous Last Words" an instant before the stabbings. It would make 100% more sense that he did this crime, and not the accused. How many times has his story changed? 5? 6? More? Why is he saying he carries a pocket knife for work, yet was introduced to the court as being jobless and devoid of income? And Cayer is guilty? Pfft.
I retract any statements that I thought this guy wasn't a good bf because i didn't realize all the facts. I wld have bolted too. The murderer is a piece of work. Total moron tbh. Joel is lucky to be alive.
Like WTF!?? This guy is pathetic! I don't know how he can live with himself knowing that he ran like a coward and saved himself and locked the girl he was supposed to love in the garage knowing that by doing so, so would surely die. But that's ok because at least HE didn't die???? He's not a man, he's a coward!!!!
Arrived home with Sabrina at 7.58pm umm strange the time he gave, he stands in the same place in the kitchen when the girl finds her mum dead in the bathroom, suspect comes out and stabs Sabrina, Joels still standing at the kitchen bench, Joel gets stabbed, they all run into the garage, he whacks the suspect in the face with a shovel (arm with a broken artery), leaves his girlfriend in the garage to get stabbed blah blah I Yes he was a loser, no job, moves in with her and mum after a month, has no car, gets a job at Burger king at 26 years old.
These were adult kids. My kids were the same at that age. Messy as all get out, trying to work and figure out adulthood. He was traumatized and young. Not only was he attacked, his girl and her mother. I’m sure it was just horrifying and shocking. I mean they had stopped to grab food, and relax for the evening when all heck broke loose. Just tragic.
He actually LEFT HIS girlfriend in the garage with this maniac?!!! What da heck! @21:06 He said they both fell down after he hit him with the shovel. So....why would he leave his girl?! I can't believe this he didn't even help her when he attacked her first in the kitchen while he just cried like a coward and got stabbed. WOW @57:10 WHY...why didn't anyone ask him why he didn't help her?!
Why does he need a face mask contraption if there is a huge salad guard in front of the witness bench? Ridiculous! Mark my words. That stupid face mask contraception is going to cause a mistrial.
What a coward most men would fight for there love,not shut her in the garage with him if he's guilty of anything its being a whimp ,poor girl she could of been saved R I P
Aly King people are so judgmental. Also, men have emotions and feelings. He was terrified. Why does everyone expect a man to risk his life over his partner? And, it’s not like he pushed her into the knife. She was down and he RAN. To call police. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Talk about victim blaming, jeez.
The attorney is just just going all over the place grasping at straws trying to discredit the witness. The witness is a victim, not the perpetrator! Why he did or didn’t do things during his attack has no importance to the fact that the perpetrator attacked him and killed his girl and girlfriend ´s mother. We all need a defense attorney during a trial if we are accused of a crime, but I hope we get a defense attorney better prepared that this poor clown.
People need to understand that he was probably in shock . Now combine that with fear...he didn't the best he could to stay live. Fight or flight is a thing we all would experience in that situation
Heartbreaking. What a hot mess. I couldn’t imagine living with myself after that. Who was paying for this house if the mom didn’t work and the kids worked in food service? Kid gets mad at dad and angrily rides his bike to his ex’s house to kill them? 🤢I have family within walking distance of this, lived there for awhile. I was semi shocked. I’d expect it in Green Bay
I feel bad for everyone in this situation... Joel has a lot of timeline holes in his statement. The bathroom distance and the laundry room, where he said Jacob went for Sabrina first..... and she wasn’t able to get a 911 call dialed to an operator by the time he came out from across that big house, had to barge through the kitchen passed Joel and to the bathroom area where she was already dialing 911 because of her mother in the bathroom. This guy gets stabbed after he goes after Sabrina, and some how Joel in a panicked state bashed him with shovel and left her to protect himself? Seems like a lot more time went by than what has been testified. I’m not saying Jacob isn’t guilty. I believe he murdered them, but.... I don’t believe it went down the way he said it... just a lot of holes in his timelines and he answers quite robotic and methodical. Short yes and no answers it was just a bit suspect on Joel’s end. But he got stabbed and so he was a victim not a suspect 🔪
Jacob did NOT kill his *EX-GIRLFRIEND* , he murdered his *girlfriend* . If she wasn't killed by that psycho, we'll never know if they would've been married, had kids, poor Joel. Seems simple, sweet, damaged. I hope he finds love again. He will always carry guilt, even tho he did amazing, saving his own life, hitting the killer, and surviving to identify their killer and testify against him. I'd like to hear how he feels about psycho getting life in mental hospital and no prison...it doesn't sit right with ME, let alone Joel I'm sure. What a gruesome unnecessary crime. This was all because he had a fight with his dad? Evidence showed there was no grudge against Sabrina, neither men knew about eachother, so no motive. I know murder has existed since the beginning of time, but I'll never understand it.
The states attorney isn’t coming out strong. This case shouldn’t be hard. Why is this prosecutor killing the court with these cringy irrelevant questions? This is going to be a tortuous trial.
Both these guys. Witness and defendant are homeless drifters. That house is very ni e and sunny didn’t have a job. To me there is reasonable doubt as to who how and why these two guys are alive and the women aren’t.
What car was Sabrina driving? Answer: Her vehicle. Seriously? This guy is 26, nervous, been thru a lot, but wow this was cringe testimony, I had that "embarrassed for someone else" feeling. Poor guy. Yikes
The defense attorney is not winning any points by shaming the victim in this case. This poor kid survived a knife attack perpetrated (evidently) by his client. Embarrassing him about not having a job or money is unnecessary towards the defense of his client, and it makes him look mean and desperate.
He has nothing else to use against the prosecution
Laura I agree with you. I don't understand why he attack this man who was horribly stabbed. It was very hard to watch. I felt so bad for him ☹️
@@kims364 Yeah, it kind of brought out the mama bear in me. 💕
@@La_Ru-yg8es Me too, I'm still watching this. I've had to pause it several times during the cross examination as I was getting irritated so I would go and stress clean for a bit then come back and watch a few minutes more, then pause.... I'm very interested in this case, I'm addicted to crime stories, court cases, crime documentaries, true crime shows, crime UA-cam channels ect....but watching this young man go through all this nasty questioning like you said is definitely bringing out the mama bear in me as well.
@@kims364 It definitely was hard to listen to!
I am terribly sorry you have had to overcome this enormous trauma, Joel. Your testimony of your nightmare has left me completely shocked and speechless. Prayers for healing and peace. Please know you are meant to be happy in this life.
Lisa Ann Very well said Lisa Ann.
I definitely feel bad for what this man has endured, don't get me wrong.
That being said..i would've never, left my girlfriend behind to die he'd had to kill me too.
Patpro2nd 1791 try to remember, these are kids.
Nobody can say with absolute certainty what or how they would react when you’re looking at certain death. I’m glad he was able to call 911 and that he survived. May Sabrina & her mom Rest In Peace. 🌺 🕊 🕊
Nobody knows how they will react when something like this happens, because we never expect things like this to happen
@@emilyflotilla931 Yes, very true. The boyfriend, Joel Kennedy was in fight or flight mode. I hope you are doing well, Emily. I have not seen you around much! This is a sad case. 😢
Agree! No one can know how to react especially being caught off guard.
For arguments sake...are all of the lies part of of his reaction too? Or is he trying to look like a hero? I can tell you this much for sure, (if you've ever been on jury duty, you'll get this), his testimony is basically trash. Not that it's going to play a huge role in guilt or innocence, but this guy may as well have been an accomplice. This jury probably hates him as a witness, for me personally, I already dismissed it when he said he was standing in the same spot when he was attacked, I don't believe that for a second. There is no way this guy watched a dude run out of the laundry room, attack his gf on the other side of the bar, and just stood there to take his turn. This was even before he got called out for lying. After all of that, I just believe anything that comes out of his mouth. Just my opinion, go easy on me please. 😃 He was running for HIS life, more likely he was being chased around, so just say that bro, cut for me, nothing could be worse than what you are said in any of your statements. At any rate, it is what it is, to bad it fell on mostly deaf ears.
Bev I can PROMISE YOU if this was my Father and Mother being attacked , My FATHER would've fought his a$$ off to protect my Mother!
Jeffery Andrews yes! I agree with you 100%! I haven’t seen cross examination yet but when he said he was standing there while she got stabbed I scratched my head so thank you for clearing that up nicely! :)
My daughter is a general manager of a bank, a man came in with a gun in his hand and a man followed him in, he turned the gun on that man and my daughter immediately went and stood in front of him and asked him to give her the gun he refused of course , but the bank was full and even children in there, so she kept talking to him, finally the man behind her said to her settle down superwoman I've got this and she looked at him and he was showing her his badge on inside of his jacket. Turns out he was getting ready to arrest the bankrobber.
God bless you and your daughter..Such a selfless act of kindness and love for others 💖 She is a Superhero🙏❤
So fortunate that she survived the encounter.
Yeah they definitely teach bank tellers not to do these things as they could potentially lose their lives!!
@@briarrose29 aahh I get it!! Fixed it 😂😂
What a brave daughter you have! So glad she wasn’t hurt during the confrontation too. God blessed her for sure that day.
I feel so horrible for the victim I can’t imagine what he feels and seen as well as felt. It’s so sad.. praying for you Joel !!
I think a lot of people take his demeanor as being uncaring. That’s so unfair. I feel bad for him too. He’ll be scarred for life, literally and figuratively.
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@Judson Devon yup, I've been watching on Flixzone for years myself :D
If you have a shovel and hit someone in the face why not keep hitting him until he cant get back up?
Especially when you know they'd have no problemn doing the same.
That is the main thing I find very hard to excuse In all of this! He had finally gotten the upper advantage on the killer that he hit to the floor , so then why not continue in finishing him off for your safety’s. Also his adrenaline had to already been running high on account of hitting him with the shovel, So why not just keep going at him fearing that there life’s depended on it ! How did he go from there to running away from him again ! That was so cowardly!! I only hope n pray that our military forces are not full of more young men like him !! 🤦🏻♀️
@@SallySallySourScream exactly because at that point , it’s either kill or be killed!!!
I love how everyone thinks they would be some epic great hero if they were in this scenario. This man is a victim. Stop victim blaming.
You know some people have actually been in those kind of situations and would do something completely different then leave a helpless female outside while she is being murdered. Just because you wouldn't have the courage doesn't mean nobody would.
I agree! For Heavens sake. Not only was he attacked by surprise and stabbed he also lost his girlfriend and her mother. He may have survivors guilt and PTSD for the rest of his life.
@@KeyboardWarrior101st 👍
Honestly thats so awful what he went through but there is zero percent chance i would lock my girlfriend in a garage with a killer... I feel worse for her then anyone my god watching that door shut and the person u love run away after all she had done to help this kid.... Wow
I have no respect for him at all.
I know right!? This guy is a coward and that poor girl would have been do scared watching her supposed boyfriend run for his life, leaving her for dead and locking her in the garage knowing she was going to die!
I can't believe he did that!!! And then ran out of the house. Yes he called 911 but she needed help that second its not like she was in a safe place you locked her in the garage!!!
He definitely isn't an "honorable" man, but he did what he did. Legally, if your life is in immediate danger, in most places, you are no longer required to put the safety of another as a priority. Sure, had she lived, she probably would have dumped him. That said, Cayer is actually disconnected from reality. Glad Joel survived and could serve as a witness to this mess. Sunny did nothing to deserve this.
I would have proceeded to beat him to death with that shovel not run into house and lock the door with my girl outside he would definitely die or be beaten into a inch of his life I would stop till police arrived
Hindsight's 20/20. So many are critical of this guy's reaction. He was trying to get somewhere to call for help, smartest thing to do in my opinion! Unfortunately, his girlfriend died but my guess would be they both would have been dead had he not ran to call for help.
Wrong. He hit him with the shovel and he fell down. Why not grab your girlfriend that was clearly injured?! He locked her in the garage with a lunitac!! Can u imagine her trying to open the door but was locked?!
@@strawberryhair4164 we all never know how we would react in a similar circumstance, we can pass judgement, yes i do believe once he hit him with the shovel he should have kept hitting him until he couldn't no longer move this may have saved his girlfriend, like i said this is my opinion, i had a guy tried to get in a house that me and 2 other teenagers was in babysitting, it took all 3 of us to shut the door, we had to work together against him. then he went around the back of the house to break a window which us three was smart enough to get all 3 children in the living room with us and phoned the police, but when he broke the back bedroom window all three of us ran with each of us holding 1 child each, we was lucky the neighbour was actually a cop, she phoned it in and went into police mode . they caught him inside the house. see no one knows how one will react until you go through it, yes he was convicted and served time. i never want to live that night ever again
@@strawberryhair4164 his one arm had tendons completely severed. he couldnt drag her like that.
@@valentinehartley6755 sorry to hear you went through all that. You were all so very brave & glad he was caught. I agree noone knows what you would do in that sort of situation. This guys reaction was probably shock. He saw what he had done to the mother & he tried to hit him. He was being attacked by a complete nutter , he probably didnt like having to hit the guy. Not everyone reacts the same way. I wouldnt like to have been in that situation. Prayers to everyone🙏
@Jason Rangel87 & i am single & brought up mychild on my own. Thank you very much!
Great testimony ! Poor fella ! Witnessing this horrible tragedy. I’m sure he was terrified , hurting and bleeding all over the house like this. Jacob needs to be put away so he can not harm anyone else. Knives are a horrific way to die. I’ve had a loved one stabbed to death. I hate knives for this reason. Rest In Peace Sunny and Sabrina!
We should ban them!!
I’m sure he was terrified too, BUT I’m sure the girl you left in a garage WITH THE KILLER 😂 who was barely breathing from her fighting from the beginning,, I’m sorry this guys only PTSD IS leaving his girlfriend to die, please, unheard of
I feel bad for him but hmmmm .. I wouldnt have locked her outside with him ..She never had a chance .
Youve actually got no idea what you would do. Its called fight or flight.
@@RocketRocket-ce3ke That's true ...i'd hope I would find the strength to help others apart from myself .... I'd not lock anyone out and run away .. He had hit him with a shovel I'd have attempted to collect my loved one ...
U never know how u would react in moments of shock. I know I’ve been there. Ur body is being flooded with all kind of chemicals and it makes it hard to think clearly. It sound good as y’all sit and watch and talk about what u would’ve done but again unless put in that situation U DO NOT KNOW!
@@shaysaysgo9122 well I know for a fact I would not lock my loved one outside ...And watch them perish ..By his own testimony he had knocked him to the ground with a shovel... Most human reactions would be to take them to safety .
Laura 77 ok and how do u know what most ppl reaction would be? U are leaning on ur own understanding u have no idea what MOST ppl reaction would be.
Why is it that all I can think of is him locking the door leaving her (his girlfriend) all alone to die! What if she tried to get back in and felt the door locked that feeling of complete defeat before death, all because your man locked u out?! I just can’t wrap my head around it.
Same. I can't get the visual out of my mind either. Poor girl geeze! What a man he is. Omg...had to add this @57:10 He literally ran passed her while she was being attacked. This just keeps getting worse and worse...Poor girl RIP Sabrina
StrawberryHair I never heard that part I couldn’t hear the rest made me too irritated.
He didn’t lock the door from the house to the garage. He locked the door to Sunnys bedroom and then to the bathroom in her room.
@@hunniefacexo674 yes that's right I think I read a comment that he did.....but even closing the door on her with that maniac is just as bad. I dont understand tho...he knocked him with the shovel and didn't grab his girlfriend
Same
Who leaves their girlfriend locked in the garage with a man with a knife ??
Someone who experienced an unexpected traumatic event and did what they felt was best in the moment. Who would be critical of a stabbing victim ??
Suzy Boone I said the exact same thing.
He tried for Gods sake and bashed the killer with a shovel!!! He was terrified! He will suffer the rest of his life with pain from his stab wounds and trauma from witnessing murder. God Bless you Son❤️🙏❤️
Suzy Boone They we’re both badly wounded . He had a severed artery and was bleeding out and she was already mortally wounded. And he was terrified. I was terrified just looking at how crazy and arrogant Cayer is. When you want to survive you do whatever you have to do. Unfortunately everyone is cut out to be a superhero. He knew if he didn’t run to get to a safe place he would also have been dead to. It was a foot long knife. She was already mortally wounded. When your dealing with a crazy person his little pocket knife would have been useless. ....No wonder his mother cries! Very sad situation and he’s very very lucky he had a cell phone or he would also be dead.
@@dinam7144 Is Joel Kennedy your son???
That Defense attorney is so annoying.
@Jonathan Edward Good points. One of the things that bothered me about the attorney is that he did not instruct his client properly on how to speak and answer questions while on the stand. He let Cayer ramble on and on and did not intervene when Cayer was obviously digging his own grave with his cuss words, gestures and pompous attitude.
People in the chat said that is because he may have been trying to let Cayer look crazy so that he will be seen as mentally ill. In his case though, Cayer showed himself to be cognitive of his actions and answers and had a good memory whereas he was trying to prove he didnt at the scene of the crime but that backfired on him.
So I feel that in the end the Defense attorney let him down. Don't get me wrong I'm not on Cayers side but the stupidity of his attorney is mind boggling.
Man, I thought I was the only one that felt that way watching this. I understand fully it is his job, but he was grasping at imaginary straws.
Joel is an excellent witness. He speaks so clearly and directly you feel like you were in that house with him. All the best to you, Joel.
Left the girl to die
b kundrot You have no idea how you would react.
Why didn’t he help his girlfriend? He left her outside with the killer?
Love the prosecutor. Cool, calm, collected, Nice flow. He delivered questions carefully and delicately to this poor victim. just seems like a nice guy.
Wow he didn’t try and help when the mum was discovered , didn’t do nothing when the girlfriend was getting stabbed and only acted when he come after him ....great boyfriend goals (not)
Judgy. Have some compassion. You think he could beat off an attacker wielding a large kitchen knife?
Just remember he already had a severed artery in his arm.
As a human you react to life threatening events in one of three ways, fight, flight or freeze. I would guarantee that most of the people saying they would have done differently probably wouldn’t. You have no idea how you’d react until I’m said situation. Logic goes out the door and you are now in survival mode.
@@Jeweleye62 thats right,right after he was watching his "girlfriend" getting stabbed smh
No He didn’t do the things we say he should have done ,sitting in our homes safe from immediate danger but he did do one thing and that was he was able to call 911 and get that murdering d*ckhead arrested. I’m sure he lives with the guilt of not saving his girlfriend.
The new boyfriend...hit the knife wielding ex-boyfriend that was stabbing then ran back into the house...locking the door....leaving Sabrina to take on the stabbing ex by herself!!! What a coward...that guy could've saved her....but instead hid inside the locked house!!! WOW!!!
Seriously, get your facts straight and snap out of your made-for-TV movie version of homicides. He punched and kicked a knife-wielding maniac and was stabbed in his arm that severed a main artery and tendons making that arm completely useless. He was also losing blood rapidly. ( See the photo of the kitchen. You can see three large sprays of his blood on the floor) He was stabbed with such force the knife went completely through his arm and cut his chest.
Despite that, he does his best to get a weapon to protect her and when he hit the killer with the shovel the killer went down. Then he did the best thing he could do...he called 911. The sooner they are called the sooner she would get medical treatment. You don't know which wounds she had already suffered, any one of which could have been fatal. "That guy could have saved her" ...He's human, not a magician. Come back to reality.
Exactly how i feel
@El diablo da Costa She was down too with multiple stab wounds. He had one good arm. What was he supposed to do, wave a magic wand and get her up? Not being super-human makes him a coward? You too appear to have been conditioned by knight in shining armor fairy tales. Come back to reality.
Candance the would-be heroine.
He locked his girl out of the house already injured and with the attacker ?
56:44. Listen again.
Your not listening very well ! Put your ears on
I thought I heard that too and then they said he didn’t. I think. Either way. He did leave her with him while he hide in the bathroom. I bet she thought she was safe being there with him. Not so much
Im pretty sure he already thought she was dead. . and he feard he'd be the third
Puffy Wooo Wooo she was still alive and he locked her out with the killer? Omg.
One night on a country road my wife, daughter, step son, and I were driving to my brothers. An oncoming car had a deer jump out in front of them which they hit into my lane. We never saw the deer until it was in front of the bumper on its side and my car jumped over it. I kept control of the car and pulled to the side. The other driver stopped a quarter mile down the road and waited for 2 minutes and then took off. They never checked on us and can only guess they were probably drunk or had some reason to not stick around for the law. I do not spook easily but how fast and catastrophic the accident was had me in a state of shock. It took me over a minute to remember my unlock code on my phone. It took me another 1 minute to put in the code because my hands were shaking so bad I could not accurately touch the screen to enter the 4 pin codes. Then I struggled going through my contacts to find my brothers number. The point being I could have walked that country road at night by myself and not been scared but due to that unexpected catastrophe nerves took over so I can understand this kid panicking and doing what he needed to do to get away.
Wait. I’m confused. He hit him with a shovel and then left Sabrina in the garage with him with locked doors while he hid in the bathroom? Is this right? I know we all react different but m....I guess every man for himself what his thought process.
D E right?! Oh and he stood there by the kitchen island watching her get stabbed? was he waiting his turn? Very suspicious.
This guy #1 is cold as ice, no emotions at all! #2 Not once did he say he was worried about Sabrina leaving her alone with Jacob! Why didn't he fight for her life?!?!?!?! He didn't love her, if he had he would've manned up and fought Jacob and told Sabrina to run and call 911 !!! I just don't get it!
I can PROMISE YOU if this was my Father and Mother being attacked , My FATHER would've fought his a$$ off to protect my Mother!
Dude is stupid for going to trial in this case he's guilty should have just took a plea.
Exactly unfortunately for this reason it is more enjoyable to get to go to court, usually get McDonald's or other food at court and something else to do and fill his days with
@@bowlingbbabe I used to work at a Juvenile Facility and adult prisons are pretty much ran the same. He would get a bag lunch from the jail. But yeah otherwise it could be one of the many reasons. But i think he just wants to attempt to make himself look human rather then a monster since his mental illness defense failed . He's already admitted to it the murders.. It's like he blamed his ex girlfriend for all the problems he had for the past 6 months and the arguments with dad was the last straw.. I would like to know more about his childhood relationship with pets if he had any. And of course hear what his friends if he had any... My guess this wouldn't come until sentencing depending on the way they do things there. It will be 2 life sentences for sure. This is going to be a very short jury deliberation. They may even decide the sentence not sure how it works in that state.
' taken' ffs
@@RocketRocket-ce3ke how about f off idiot
@@flatcat3254 hate grammar nazi's. And spelling nazi's. Get a life. Like u said f'ing idiot. Lmfao
You have a survivor, that says Jacob did this. Jacob was found cowering in the bushes by the house covered in blood. I don’t understand how this defense lawyer thinks he can even try and get this guy out of this
Defense Counsel protects the accused rights and a proper and complete hearing in court.
PC Bored It was a rhetorical question
Ladies you don't want this guy as a boyfriend. He took off running when he should've brained the killer with that shovel.
He's young and is not a killer.
crayCray420 he is a coward and a Bum
He also had a through and through stab wound that severed a main artery. Calling 911 instead of bleeding to death increased the likelihood that EMT's would get there faster and cops would be able to arrest the killer which they did.
@@honeydip6355 Wow... You weren't there, you have no idea what you would do in a horrific situation as he was in. He was stabbed horribly. How dare you be so judgmental.
@@crayCray420 Exactly. I can't believe some of these horrid comments judging this young man who was stabbed! No one knows how you would act in this horrible situation unless you've lived through it.
How you hit the attacker and run in the house. Leave your gf when u had the upper hand by hitting him with the shovel. Keep hitting!!!!
Joel is clearly not a violent person that's why he didn't continue hitting the man with the shovel and why he didn't think of using the knife. Most humans will not turn into violent stabbing psychopaths even when put in this type of horrific situation. Joel your life is important and your good heart shows through. I am glad that you lived to tell everyone what happened and you helped get your friends justice today.
Bs it's called fight or flight u be surprised how strong n what u can do in those situations trust me
There are people with inherent fighting morals. Just getting a situation to neutralize is the primary intent.
Excellent witness.
Yep, he stood there and witnessed the whole thing
He just stood there behind the counter and didn't try to help her . Then he goes and gets a shovel and hits him and locks his girlfriend out there with the killer . He thinks only about himself. Glad he ain't my boyfriend !
So sorry for your loss Joel, but happy you survived such a horrific attack. May God continue to bless you and keep you safe. I wish you happiness and love in this life.
This poor boy Joel will need lots of counselling its a shame that he didn't have a gun to defend himself as this man clearly wanted to kill him. If it was me and I was stabbed through the arm and all over then seeing my girlfriend and her mother dead I don't think I would remember half he has, it's not something you forget in a hurry!!! It's horrendous. Don't know why he's even getting a trial when it's clear he's guilty. :O(
Because that's our legal system and we all get a choice to defend our criminal offenses and not your choice to decide on my fate or options I have to defend myself because I am clearly guilty! We all have the right to a trial.
@@repentANDobey What are you guilty of? only joking!!! he could have taken a plea as it would have benefited him. :O)
@@englishrose212 He could only take a deal if he was offered one. The prosecutor has no reason to deal a horrific double murder with a surviving witness, a confession, and DNA evidence.
@@blurrylights6344 I was hypothetically speaking. Just want him to fry!!!😈
Everyone gets a tiral regardless!! Everyone also knows he did it
I'm sorry but what a cowardly thing to do, why leave her alone? Why didn't he bash his skull in with that shovel 😬 Poor girls didn't stand a chance!
I’m trying to get my head round it too, the only thing I can think is that he had severed tendons and a main artery, it’s possible he couldn’t hold the shovel any longer through injury, but also because blood is slippery. He doesn’t say though.
He had severe blood loss (look at the kitchen floor), was stabbed right through his arm and into his heart. He was almost certainly losing consciousness and could have died. In these extreme circumstances your instincts take over your actions to protect your own life.
Chapin Tweed Agreed. He had life threatening decisions to make in seconds. None of us can say what we would do those circumstances.
Not too bright my friends🧐
Why don't you bash your own head in with a shovel - it might improve your empathy skills?
Why do 26 year olds look and act like juveniles, when I was 26 I had children, and a career.
There was a time where maturity was seen as a virtue, and childishness reserved for children. In the 1980s, immaturity and irresponsibility became a virtue.
SENSITIVE EAR WARNING @ 39:05 - 39:15. Beware this time frame if you value your hearing for all that is holy.
So sad he didn’t keep hitting him to save her. So why did he have so many different statements? Seems like he was a great boyfriend smh saying he was attacked first was a big difference than what he is saying now. Wtf his story is so out there, I think he is trying to make it sound better than he left her to die
She have bad taste in Men😩
She sure did!
The worst..
I new i wasn't the only one, thinking that same thing lol
Losers with a capital (L) i mean come tf on.
No KIDDING! Jeeeezzzz.
This guy's clearly on the spectrum, but autism is no excuse for cowardice.
How did she ever wind up dating these rotten creeps? One kills you while the other runs and hides!
You wouldn’t run and hide if someone was coming after you with a knife and wasn’t afraid to use it?
@@sharonbentley8612 Sounds like your complaining about one of your own offspring is more like it.
Wow, poor Sabrina sure picked some winners
Never see her foto please if you have her picture and her mother
@@odilapernice7249 she's a big girl. And squishy faced. Not sure what nationality it was, but squishy faced
So he should have stayed out there and died as well? We wouldn’t have a trial now if he did. Chances are Cayre would have gotten away with it. I, myself, would have done differently than him, because I have the training. Not everyone thinks straight in such a crisis. It’s bad enough that he had to go through what he did, without people like you shaming him.
@@TampaJohn wow, Sabrina sure picked some winners.
@@TampaJohn I've noticed that similar people are quick to defend their kind. For instance, you're defending this dude's cowardly actions. Only another coward would do such a thing. And tekashi 6 9. That 🐀 has other 🐀 s defending his snitching. Birds of a feather I guess
What a poor excuse for a man! Run and hide while his girlfriend is murdered. He was just using the two women for a roof and food. If he had cared at all about the poor woman she would be alive. He needs to be in jail for being a coward.
Sad your children are cowards and poor excuses for men. But this guy is a HERO. He could have run thru that garage door never looking back.
Granted I would guess myself personally have approach the situation differently but no one ever really knows. I’d love to hear your harrowing tales of heroic acts though.
This witness is so articulate good job Mr Kennedy
Smooth af placement of that face shield.
B Dub lol
He didnt do anything he got stabbed in the kitchen and ran right into the bedroom n locked her out behind moms room n the bathroom tht going outside to the garage n leaving getting a shovel is bs he wa just trying to save face n not the coward tht he truly is n was
What a good witness, short succinct answers. Much better than the long winded defendant who held his microphone like a goober and flapped the other hand around as if conducting an orchestra.
Defense lawyer. So you had a pocket knife. Why didn't you use the pocket knife? Well... Duh, because he Cayer had a HUGE BUTCHER KNIFE! Defense attorney is a real piece of work!
Oh my gosh, I can’t stand that defense attorney!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬
This guy...wow. I don't want to say what we are all thinking, so I'll go with speechless. I'll just join Lisa Marie, and pray for ya bud.
The defense attorney is trying to make the witness look bad, but it’s just making the defense look bad.
Try taking a drink everytime the defense attorney says "right?"
Oh man, now I can't unhear it!
Why’s he’s running across the house and garage for a shovel when he has a knife??? 🧐. Wonder if he ever used that shovel around their house doing yard work? Wonder if he left out the front door without shoes, since he took them off in the garage when he entered the house? Wonder if the “friend” that was suppose to come over to watch tv/movies was ever contacted that night? Joel lied to the police on more than one occasion, 4 or 5 different statements?
AvengedAmaranth36 good point
Tammy And???
Jennifer Holden and cowardly
Can you imagine what this young man has gone through? He lost his love and he lost her mum whom I would imagine he felt affection for. When the attorney asked how he felt he said he was terrified. Defense lawyer isn't interested in the truth. He's obviously interested in discrediting this young man. When did criminal justice become just about winning?
This is a open and shut case, why is he asking him what he watched on UA-cam
Hayley bourgault Some really dumb questions, a bit unnecessary. Just adding to his trauma.
Hayley bourgault because they need to creat doubt for the jury
The JUDGE is into the whole mask thing. Lol
I noticed that also. Our judges biggest job has become mask control and the occasional objection.
Tammy Jo in the house !
I feel like I'm listening to an android or some form of artificial intelligence, Very robotic
The victim had terrible taste in men, just saying. Ugh😖
Citrus I am sitting here thinking the EXACT same thing! Besides their looks she seems like she was a rescuer or a fixer. No thank you!
@@lafordgirl7549 : Bingo on all counts!!✋
@@citrusbloom7504 and why was mom letting dudes live with her daughter under her roof?! based on his testimony they knew each other a month before shacking up and moving in?
@@lafordgirl7549 : I'm right there with you. So many bad choices. I think the daughter was too nice, a bit of low self esteem. These lumps had no jobs, riding around on bicycles at 30 yrs old. Some 'serious' red flags, mom should have been putting her foot down hard. As in get your own place if you want to be a 'shack up honey'.
@@citrusbloom7504 Dr. L fan? Same!!!
You don’t know how you’ll react to a situation until you’re in it the mind is in shock he did his best Joel I freeze when I’m scared and can’t speak I can’t imagine what his mind was doing
I’m glad he wasn’t my Man. Wow, lock your girl out with the Assailant.
door cravey exactly!!
Thank God I'm single and I love it🙏👋👋
He was extremely traumatized defecto team. He admits to inconsistencies, he was in severe fear and shock he did what he felt he needed to do in that moment. Had he kept hitting the perp with the shovel and killed him even though it would appear self defence the defence would have then said so you killed my client overkill- ridiculous! This victim is very credible and brave for telling the truth and facing his attacker.
Wow that's sad he's going to feel like he abandoned Sabrina to die in the garage alone with Jacob when he ran away and locked the door for the rest of his life.
He is telling the truth.
Katherine Butz and you know this how? Were you there?
When humans r put into a life threatening surprise attack they choose one of two options automatically fight or flight
Fight, flight, freeze or fawn. ✌🏻
So do we know the motive and why the fight with his dad set him off to kill Sabrina?
Not good choice of men.. NO CAR NO JOB JUST SPUNGING!!
The guy don't deserve to be with nobody. 1st you stand up and watched her get attacked and stabbed then you let the attacker just walk up on you and stab you then you locked your girlfriend in the garage with the killer bro? Like really
Something is so off about this guy... His flat affect is disturbing, and I was already wondering if he weren't the perpetrator, which considering his position in the household as freeloading, nonworking boyfriend of the homeowner's daughter, would not be astounding, and then they brought up about him youtube-ing the song "Famous Last Words" an instant before the stabbings. It would make 100% more sense that he did this crime, and not the accused. How many times has his story changed? 5? 6? More? Why is he saying he carries a pocket knife for work, yet was introduced to the court as being jobless and devoid of income? And Cayer is guilty? Pfft.
Why did he lock Sabrina out in gargage w Cayer? That was her death sentence
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I retract any statements that I thought this guy wasn't a good bf because i didn't realize all the facts. I wld have bolted too. The murderer is a piece of work. Total moron tbh. Joel is lucky to be alive.
Like WTF!?? This guy is pathetic! I don't know how he can live with himself knowing that he ran like a coward and saved himself and locked the girl he was supposed to love in the garage knowing that by doing so, so would surely die. But that's ok because at least HE didn't die???? He's not a man, he's a coward!!!!
Arrived home with Sabrina at 7.58pm umm strange the time he gave, he stands in the same place in the kitchen when the girl finds her mum dead in the bathroom, suspect comes out and stabs Sabrina, Joels still standing at the kitchen bench, Joel gets stabbed, they all run into the garage, he whacks the suspect in the face with a shovel (arm with a broken artery), leaves his girlfriend in the garage to get stabbed blah blah I Yes he was a loser, no job, moves in with her and mum after a month, has no car, gets a job at Burger king at 26 years old.
What kind of “man” can let his girlfriend support him and move in with her mom?? Seriously dude!!
These were adult kids. My kids were the same at that age. Messy as all get out, trying to work and figure out adulthood. He was traumatized and young. Not only was he attacked, his girl and her mother. I’m sure it was just horrifying and shocking. I mean they had stopped to grab food, and relax for the evening when all heck broke loose. Just tragic.
He actually LEFT HIS girlfriend in the garage with this maniac?!!! What da heck! @21:06 He said they both fell down after he hit him with the shovel. So....why would he leave his girl?! I can't believe this he didn't even help her when he attacked her first in the kitchen while he just cried like a coward and got stabbed. WOW @57:10 WHY...why didn't anyone ask him why he didn't help her?!
People panic and fear makes us do strange things
Why does he need a face mask contraption if there is a huge salad guard in front of the witness bench? Ridiculous!
Mark my words. That stupid face mask contraception is going to cause a mistrial.
WILLIAM CORCORAN
Oh, shut up. 🙄
Terrible witness preparation. Awful and neglectful use of Trauma informed preparation of the witness.
You should watch Jacob's teatimony then lol
What a coward most men would fight for there love,not shut her in the garage with him if he's guilty of anything its being a whimp ,poor girl she could of been saved R I P
Aly King people are so judgmental. Also, men have emotions and feelings. He was terrified. Why does everyone expect a man to risk his life over his partner? And, it’s not like he pushed her into the knife. She was down and he RAN. To call police. Why is this so hard for people to understand? Talk about victim blaming, jeez.
he left his shoes at the porch by the door? i thought they came in the gargage? Why didnt he defend the girl?
Really sad. However I can say with 100 percent certainty that my boyfriend would never lock me in a room with a knife wielding maniac.
The attorney is just just going all over the place grasping at straws trying to discredit the witness. The witness is a victim, not the perpetrator! Why he did or didn’t do things during his attack has no importance to the fact that the perpetrator attacked him and killed his girl and girlfriend ´s mother. We all need a defense attorney during a trial if we are accused of a crime, but I hope we get a defense attorney better prepared that this poor clown.
Defense attorney is not the nicest kid on the block. Ignorance is an understatement!!
Something about this guy is fishy
According to the Judge 13 people removed their masks during the making of this video 😱
According to the judge 13 people removed their masks during the time Joel identified Jacob Cayer. Idiot.
Man...that defense lawyer looks like he can't afford to feed himself. No wonder he is taking so many cheap shots, this man is hungry.
People need to understand that he was probably in shock . Now combine that with fear...he didn't the best he could to stay live. Fight or flight is a thing we all would experience in that situation
Heartbreaking. What a hot mess. I couldn’t imagine living with myself after that. Who was paying for this house if the mom didn’t work and the kids worked in food service? Kid gets mad at dad and angrily rides his bike to his ex’s house to kill them? 🤢I have family within walking distance of this, lived there for awhile. I was semi shocked. I’d expect it in Green Bay
At 57:23 on his lawyers computer you can see Sabrina's autopsy picture I think they forgot to blur his laptop
I feel bad for everyone in this situation...
Joel has a lot of timeline holes in his statement. The bathroom distance and the laundry room, where he said Jacob went for Sabrina first..... and she wasn’t able to get a 911 call dialed to an operator by the time he came out from across that big house, had to barge through the kitchen passed Joel and to the bathroom area where she was already dialing 911 because of her mother in the bathroom. This guy gets stabbed after he goes after Sabrina, and some how Joel in a panicked state bashed him with shovel and left her to protect himself? Seems like a lot more time went by than what has been testified. I’m not saying Jacob isn’t guilty. I believe he murdered them, but.... I don’t believe it went down the way he said it... just a lot of holes in his timelines and he answers quite robotic and methodical. Short yes and no answers it was just a bit suspect on Joel’s end. But he got stabbed and so he was a victim not a suspect 🔪
says the flunkie law school student.
@@1SALADLOVER huh?
@@whoops8412 huh?
@@1SALADLOVER “says the law school flunky” who are you talking to me? Or the video?
@@whoops8412 WHO? WHO?
Dude not only left his girlfriend, but locked him with her in the garage? Wtf
WTF DOES IT MATTER IF SUNNY LIKED JOEL OR NOT?
Jacob did NOT kill his *EX-GIRLFRIEND* , he murdered his *girlfriend* . If she wasn't killed by that psycho, we'll never know if they would've been married, had kids, poor Joel. Seems simple, sweet, damaged. I hope he finds love again. He will always carry guilt, even tho he did amazing, saving his own life, hitting the killer, and surviving to identify their killer and testify against him. I'd like to hear how he feels about psycho getting life in mental hospital and no prison...it doesn't sit right with ME, let alone Joel I'm sure. What a gruesome unnecessary crime. This was all because he had a fight with his dad? Evidence showed there was no grudge against Sabrina, neither men knew about eachother, so no motive. I know murder has existed since the beginning of time, but I'll never understand it.
Great witness. Yes or no. Most people want to explain things. Bad idea.
The states attorney isn’t coming out strong. This case shouldn’t be hard. Why is this prosecutor killing the court with these cringy irrelevant questions? This is going to be a tortuous trial.
So many commenters judging this dude because they believe their own hero fantasies.
Both these guys. Witness and defendant are homeless drifters. That house is very ni e and sunny didn’t have a job. To me there is reasonable doubt as to who how and why these two guys are alive and the women aren’t.
IS this the voice of the prosecuter from the George Birch case?
Yes. DA Lassee.
Wow ! They sadly made this victim appear to have Been so cowardly !
What car was Sabrina driving? Answer: Her vehicle. Seriously? This guy is 26, nervous, been thru a lot, but wow this was cringe testimony, I had that "embarrassed for someone else" feeling. Poor guy. Yikes
I can only imagine his guilt in leaving her in the garage with psycho pants. F-ing horrible. Poor sabrina
This man is a born engineer. Texas A & M should give him a full ride then NASA should hire him.