funny how the 20 dollars upfront are supposed to ensure that the artist actually does thei job and that the buyer actually buys it, but the scammers are just completely screwing up that principle
To be fair, nobody should be buying a commission from a stranger with 0 credibility or good reputation. Also, if you're sending the money on paypal, their address/information should be accessible via paypal. Request a refund and report them for scams. I've sold commissions myself, but the lack of privacy is exactly why I don't use paypal for commissions lol. Basically speaking, the best way to keep artists and consumers safe, is to inform them on HOW TO REPORT SCAMMERS and to AVOID STRANGERS WITH NO CREDIBILITY.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesThat's not entirely true. As an amateur artist myself, I always charge my customers 100% of price (no upfront) because I'm not popular enough. Given my portfolio, I can ensure my customers I know what am I doing. I think it's a double-edged sword that payments such as Paypal doesn't give much privacy as hiding your real identity. I find out it's more helpful for me because if anything goes wrong, I can just report them and it will mess their day. Amateur artists with lesser reputation should inform their customers that they are amateur, and customers should know who are they commissioning to.
That's why whenever I commission I only give half of it whenever the sketch is done, and pay the rest whenever the art is done. If the artist doesent agree, too bad for them.
As an artist myself, it hurts to see this kind of scam become more and more used, it’s just disgusting to give people who make a living off of this stuff (legitimately) a bad rep
as an artist too, it's really sad to see ppl using commission to scam others, a lot of artists actually need money and no one helps them (im so sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning)
I mean,if you really are a starving artist, create a fivver account and start promoting yourself and channel your promotion to your fivver account or something, that will look more legit, instead of asking people directly on discord, to send money through paypall no less, is extremely sketchy, and no legit artist should do that. I usually just ignore everyone that ask me to send money through PayPal in discord, unless I already did some research on the person. Just promote your fivver account or something, and if the customer want to pay using PayPal, well, just comply I guess?
As someone who commissions a lot of art. I almost feel for one. Good thing the art examples didn't even match lol. I pushed for pony examples since pony. And yeah recognized one art as by a different artist.
As an illustrator this makes me mad, someone would just think I'm a scammer if they know about this scam thing that has been going for so long even if I dont go dming people about me being an artist, which has already happened lol
Yeah I haven't dm'd anyone but it made me feel bad thinking about it. Best you can do is just be ready with portfolios or at least have an active social media to refer them to. Just be ready to prove you're human I guess lol.
Artist to artist, here are some tips for you all: 1) *Be credible and have a good reputation.* Don't mix your professional art account(s) with personal ones unless you're already famous and reputable, otherwise this can damage/hinder your ability to get a client base. 2) *Have a portfolio.* This is necessary for professional artists anyways. Show the people you know how to make art so they know it's worth buying. 3) *Do NOT DM people about commissions unless they are EXPLICITLY ASKING FOR COMMISSIONS.* As an artist AND a consumer, I can't tell you how infuriating it is to see someone in my DMs like "hey wanna buy my art?" NO MF! AND I will report you for scamming because I DO NOT KNOW YOU. It's common courtesy to go after CUSTOMERS, not RANDOM PEOPLE. 4) *NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK!!!* If you want to make a living by selling your art, NETWORK!!!!!! Grow your clientele! Artists can make hella good money with repeat customers, so make sure you're networking and getting to know people! The more people you know, the more customers you will get! Find your connections! (This is NOT the same as DMing strangers asking them to buy your commissions! Networking is about connections!) Hopefully these tips can lessen your anxiety about the situation. If someone tries to claim you are a scammer, BLOCK THE HOE! Have fun!
A good way to avoid the artist scam is to ask for their portfolio/social media. If it looks like they have 294828 styles or no portfolio at all, just pass. It hurts to see people do this because I'm an artist, and some of my clients may prefer Discord to communicate, but this makes it harder for smaller artists and those starting to grow a clientele
Uhh, how do you require someone to keep one artstyle? That's not possible, I'm an artist in art school, and I've seen many of us struggle to keep one artstyle, especially with the things you often need to fix. We're not Sam Does Arts, or an AI.
@@RimFaxxe There is clear difference between experimenting and trying things and someone drawing the anatomy/shading in a completely different way. If you go from a very sharp style with a very defined anatomy to a painterly style in which the faces don't even look like they are drawn by the same person to me that looks more like they are stealing art from others. I also struggled a lot with having an art style but people from outside can still pick details that you may not notice that very clearly look like they have been done by the same person.
2:03 as a former gfx artist, i can confirm that they most definitely do not need this "har" file. not sure if its done any differently today but when i did them, you literally just put their username into roblox studio and import the model into blender
as an artist myself, heres some advice to any other artists: if you want people to commission you, just post your art on servers and wait for people to just willingly commission you.
How to not get scammed 101: 1. Don't have money 2. Don't have discord (very good for mental health and privacy) 3. Don't be dumb 4. Don't trust artists with "har" files
If you paid someone and they put prompts into Stable Diffusion it wouldn't be a scam unless what they gave you was awful quality below the level they advertised. The problem is that you pay them and they give you NOTHING.
@@7_moood a lot of kids are actually smart and wouldn’t fall for this kind of scam, but unfortunately there are also a lot of kids who are complete morons and will get scammed by the dumbest scams ever
The Discord Artist Scam is so annoying, I always keep getting those messages from people that are on the official VRChat server, and the scheme is literally the same as it was shown in the video 💀
I got one of the artist scams a few weeks back, and since they were being nice in conversation and didn't seem too forceful about payment about it i just went along with it, after about 10 minutes of talking about art they suddenly pulled out the "I actually need emergency funds for my dog because he got into a car accident" excuse and tried to haggle for a high price because of that. I'm usually pretty paranoid of scams, but i could honestly see some of my friends falling for it since one of them even fell for the "i reported your steam account" scam. Some people just don't realize when it's happening, and by the time they do it's too late, kinda sucks on how they take advantage of people like that :/
I once was on a server looking for an artist and among many there was one that didn't give me their portfolio saying that it all got deleted but that they are working on a piece now and that they'll send it later. I wait, and they send what looks like an ai generated image, but maybe it's just 3d. I give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them if it's 3d. They start to get a little angry saying they lost all their drawings (already said that, not answering the question). Then they ask me how would I like the picture to be made. I say there's no way I'm going to pay someone for a drawing if I don't know how it'll look in the end. I try to explain it to them, they keep on insisting that they can draw the picture I want. I see this gets nowhere, ignore them. Decide on another artist that actually showed their work, pay them after the sketch, a few days of back and forth with the artist about little changes and them sending updates. Now I have a beautiful drawing. Moral of the story: Always go with someone who can show you their previous work. And I guess paying after a sketch is done is another layer to protect yourself. And for artist: Watermark the commission until it's paid.
i got the "artist" scam. i avoided it by saying i was under 18 and didn't have PayPal, and i didn't have a clue it was a scam, im usually good at telling scams apart and avoiding it
A good operational security for things like that is assume all services that you didn't personally request are a scam attempt, especially through Discord.
I get exclusively art scams of the non-emergency variety. The funny part is, the server they contact me from, is a VRChat community that I am a partnered artist with, that has a dedicated commissions forum. I don't need commissions, I am an artist, I do my own work, and there's a commissions forum. Every single time, I, through conversation, warn them that I'm already an artist, and then politely inform them that they're acting like a scammer, and direct them to the commissions forum. They remind me that they're "not a scammer", and leave the server to go scam somewhere else. Every time.
Usually the things they offer are 2D art, 3D art, vtuber model, live stream overlay, etc The part of that, to me, that's a massive red flag, is the fact that they're good at three major, separate categories: 2D art, 3D art, and vtuber models. Most vtuber models are "live 2D", which is an insane system that requires immense amount of dedicated skill, and those models usually cost upwards of thousands of dollars, because of how insanely difficult they are to make. The fact that these "artists" can make those, as well as professional 3D art and 2D art and live stream overlays, and for cheap, is an obvious giveaway that they're making shit up.
Oh hi bakers! Happy to finally see the art scam covered here. I’ve talked to 2 of these artist scams, both claiming they could make 3D models. So I ask them to show me a wireframe of one of their models. Many messages later, and these artists didn’t even know what a wireframe was. Meanwhile they were asking hundreds of dollars for a model that at most would take an hour. (I would know as someone who makes 3D models) If anyone asks you for commissions unprompted, best to ignore them or HEAVILY scrutinize their art or skills. Avoid PayPal friends and family too if they ask for payment.
how to not get scammed: 1) live in a remote location (preferably in the middle of the jungle or desert where there's no internet and absolutely no signal 2) do not have any electronic devices, and do not have any radios 3) turn into a privacy guy and install super dark shades on your curtains 4) never let anyone into your house, even if it's the delivery man
As an artist who does commissions, this is sick. :/ and goes 1000% against how artists typically do this process. An artist [at least a self respecting one] NEVER goes to contact a customer unsolicited. Usually they'll have a post or commissions card and wait for a client to message first. Its sad to see this sort of scam just growing more and more with the rise of AI art. Not to mention damages the art community as a whole as for anyone whos been scammed is likely less inclined to ever commission art again.
i’m a rookie game developer in Scratch and Roblox, and my discord account got hacked once. hacker sent stuff to my friends about a “private release” of a “game”. sometimes, i send my friends like, preview things of my game in the form of exes and such, so they thought i was just sending them a new game. thank god none of them had the time to open the files the hacker sent.
The funny thing about this, is that i received these a lot, and i mean like more that 10 different ppl. Not knowing it's a scam, luckily, I refused to. I was literally like "Commissioning? Yes? I draw for myself (not an artist,) so no. Stop DMing me!" 0:20 that was one of them. However, i would have fallen for it in the future, so... much thanks for this video.
Something I still don't quite understand, as a white hat hacker myself, why would anyone need Discord login information? So you got the information, great! Now what? The only thing I can think of is them sending virusses around on your friends list I guess.
Services selling members. They need accounts that don’t look botted, so they steal your info and make your account join these servers. Or they use them for other scams like stealing steam accounts. Plus, people are lazy. They often use the same credentials for different platforms. So stealing credentials from your discord account might also steal your email and other game accounts.
"Do NOT give away your credentials" Anyways if you find a scam report it here by logging in with your email and the password that you probably use everywhere.
4:11 for those who don't know this gibberish code ntts was talking about. This code is a obfuscated JavaScript(JS) code. Obfuscation is a technique to transform readable and understandable JavaScript code into a more complex and difficult-to-understand version, while still maintaining its functionality. Note: if you know and use scripts like this and you encountered some of the codes just like in the video, they contain malicious code like: ip and token grabber, so it's best to check for any malicious code before using it:)
Yeah one server I help gets inundated with tons of investment scams, "looking for moderators/beta testers/admins/artists/etc etc etc" scams and whatnot else.
Omg I finally found someone talking about the art commission scam!! I get these like once every 2 weeks. They always give a sob story saying"I can't pay rent/my bills 💔". It's kinda funny to mess with em but I can't help feeling bad sometimes.... My empathetic side and the fact that I'm an Artist myself makes it feel like I should just commission them 😔 though their art low-key looks like traced garbage.
A few days ago someone texted me like this, it wasnt the first time so the second they said the whole "im a designer and i do commissions" shit i just spammed them with insults and nsfw, tbh im so tired of these, especially that they ruin the reputation of people who actually do commissions to get some money
I'd strongly recommend against opening any sort of random PDF file sent by anyone you cannot trust, especially over Discord. They can contain malicious and hidden code that automatically execute, this is done through several exploits in the way a PDF file works. MOST web browsers and antiviruses (Windows Defender etc.) *should* protect you from this nowadays, but you can never be too sure. Other files to look out for that can possibly be a little "iffy" to open would be .bat .vbs .exe .scr .rtf - etc.
OMG those furry "artists" scammers... I had at least 25 of them on Twitter and now they moved to Discord. The funny thing is that they literally don't care what you say, I'm like "I don't even have money for food" at they "I usually charge 500$ but I offer you a special price of just 150$" for low quality art
On the discord artist scams, i've got actually ONE. So, uh i was just playing roblox cassually when i get a DM from someone, saying if that they could make me UA-cam/Twitch Emojis/pfps just for 50$ because he's an artists and he needs to pay his debts and food, he then send me some of the stuff he did for other people, but then while looking at google i found the same exact images, and then i told him to go scam someone else and blocked him.
I've gotten so many artist scams as of late. I still don't know why anyone would fall for them as its really easy to see the inconsistencies in the artwork they show.
thank you for talking about the roblox scam. i was scammed using it and i lost a bunch of items in games and the games did nothing about it after reporting it about 5 times
I took one of these up as i was actually looking for a commission (this was before the whole AI art stuff) and they actually did deliver the art very promptly and it was pretty well done for the price i paid.
Man idk about other artists but if I was to open for commissions I would never fckn message random people asking if they want one, that's just obnoxious and rude. I'd be waiting for someone to message me directly asking for one, y'know, like a normal person. Jumping into dms and asking random people if they wanna buy commissions has the same energy as someone knocking on the door of a random house and then proceeding to try and sell a toaster to a stranger
I got a lot of these "art" scams, but one was really weird he clicked all my links (grabify) and even tried running an exe i send him as an "image" (windows defender deleted it before he could run it) and he still hasn't blocked me and replies to everything i send him. But im still pretty sure it is a scammer.
I did something similar. The grabify link said “South Brisbane, Australia”. When I asked them “so how’s the weather in Australia” they said they weren’t from Australia… VPN So I did a little digging, and was able to find some damming evidence; the call center’s address. Looked it up on Google maps, left a review of the call center with a screenshot of the scammer’s messages, and then reported to the proper authorities. 😊
Wait that's so funny! I actually got a DM asking if I wanted to commission them, thought it was just weird. Had no idea it was a scam. (I politely declined since I definitely wasn't interested)
Gotta watch out their "lines" too....they always say the same thing "How are you" "I'm actually an artist" Or "do you like artwork?" AND THEIR PRICES! "Full body $200-$250" And my favorite "Your profile picture caught my eye😍" Ive been studying and saving their art to see if they match ←tip if want to troll scammers
At least with that first one you can theoretically send it as goods and services (which every reputable artist will have you use) and when they try and run off with your money you can chargeback
unironically, i may have a case of falling for the artist scam (i can already tell that they made ai art judging by their bazillion styles); but honestly i didn't really care for that "artist" much tbh and just decided to give them 25$ for shits and giggles all i'm thankful is that it led me into being confident on how to contact the bank, and quite frankly i already wasted more money on useless stuff than 25$ anyway since i get paid every month
I used to get either those artist or Steam Account scams maybe once or twice a week. Lately, I've been getting them 2-4 times a day. They are so frickin' annoying.
I laugh at the commission scammers. Because my usual 'uno reverse is '... "Dude, I draw my own characters and things I want all the time. why would I pay someone to do what I ALREADY do?' I get instantly blocked.
The Artist scam probably happened to me. Someone DM’d me and said that can make twitch overlays and sent me just over dramatic twitch overlays. Little did she know, I don’t need twitch overlays. I don’t stream. But of course, I’m too nice and recommended a server that people often want commissions from. They said thank you, I didn’t actually see them advertise in the server, I think they were trying to scam me? But.. I dunno.
Even tho this video is 6 months old, these scams do continue. Recently, the art commission scams have turned to people randomly messaging you and asking if your profile picture is your original character. They will then ask YOU if YOU want to commission THEM (fyi, not how that works). They then will send traced or fully stolen pieces. I shut down every conversation the moment someone asks if that's my character in my profile picture.
This has to be one of the worst scams I've seen so far Mainly because I'm someone who ACTUALLY sells art and character designs! It sucks knowing that someone is using a method that many people rely on for their income to scam people :(
Fun fact I fell for an artist scam out of 60$ and they needed up tracing my ref and then lied about their “ram broken” and the picture they showed me was Linus tech tip thumbnail, huge bummer to me
I was once actually a target for that artist scam. Didn't think it was a scam but I didn't take it because their art style was weird and not consistent. Good to know it was a scam
This Roblox scam happend to me a month back what they did is say im a gfx artist and I fell for it not know what i was doing at all Thanks for explaining this scam/hack I also had a feeling that the person was gonna scam me
As an artist who takes commissions, if you have an artist come into DMs to ask for YOU to pay them for a commission, even if legitimate, ignore it, its already kinda seen as rude from the artist to begin with
The artist scam my brother fell for, he lost his Discord account because of it, granted we don't have PayPal or anything, so I don't think he lost money or anything.
When you come from team fortress 2, you are hardened to the scape of phishing and scammers. The thing is, it's funny how here people just want to steal shitty nitro subs instead.
funny how the 20 dollars upfront are supposed to ensure that the artist actually does thei job and that the buyer actually buys it, but the scammers are just completely screwing up that principle
To be fair, nobody should be buying a commission from a stranger with 0 credibility or good reputation.
Also, if you're sending the money on paypal, their address/information should be accessible via paypal. Request a refund and report them for scams.
I've sold commissions myself, but the lack of privacy is exactly why I don't use paypal for commissions lol.
Basically speaking, the best way to keep artists and consumers safe, is to inform them on HOW TO REPORT SCAMMERS and to AVOID STRANGERS WITH NO CREDIBILITY.
@@nomoretwitterhandlesThat's not entirely true. As an amateur artist myself, I always charge my customers 100% of price (no upfront) because I'm not popular enough. Given my portfolio, I can ensure my customers I know what am I doing.
I think it's a double-edged sword that payments such as Paypal doesn't give much privacy as hiding your real identity. I find out it's more helpful for me because if anything goes wrong, I can just report them and it will mess their day.
Amateur artists with lesser reputation should inform their customers that they are amateur, and customers should know who are they commissioning to.
That's why whenever I commission I only give half of it whenever the sketch is done, and pay the rest whenever the art is done. If the artist doesent agree, too bad for them.
If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9
@@avangardismm he dont exist bro
As an artist myself, it hurts to see this kind of scam become more and more used, it’s just disgusting to give people who make a living off of this stuff (legitimately) a bad rep
ok?
as an artist too, it's really sad to see ppl using commission to scam others, a lot of artists actually need money and no one helps them (im so sorry for my bad english, I'm still learning)
I mean,if you really are a starving artist, create a fivver account and start promoting yourself and channel your promotion to your fivver account or something, that will look more legit, instead of asking people directly on discord, to send money through paypall no less, is extremely sketchy, and no legit artist should do that. I usually just ignore everyone that ask me to send money through PayPal in discord, unless I already did some research on the person. Just promote your fivver account or something, and if the customer want to pay using PayPal, well, just comply I guess?
As someone who commissions a lot of art. I almost feel for one. Good thing the art examples didn't even match lol. I pushed for pony examples since pony. And yeah recognized one art as by a different artist.
Mr Besst
Easiest way to not get scammed is to just not have any money to begin with 😎
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pog
So true
so real for this
You know it would be kinda funny if he just gave us a scam link "phish report" after telling us not to get scammed.
I just wanted to comment that lol
As an illustrator this makes me mad, someone would just think I'm a scammer if they know about this scam thing that has been going for so long even if I dont go dming people about me being an artist, which has already happened lol
I totally agree bro
I think this is why portfolios exist, to sorta prove u can art.
Yeah I haven't dm'd anyone but it made me feel bad thinking about it.
Best you can do is just be ready with portfolios or at least have an active social media to refer them to. Just be ready to prove you're human I guess lol.
@@wordydird😢
Artist to artist, here are some tips for you all:
1) *Be credible and have a good reputation.* Don't mix your professional art account(s) with personal ones unless you're already famous and reputable, otherwise this can damage/hinder your ability to get a client base.
2) *Have a portfolio.* This is necessary for professional artists anyways. Show the people you know how to make art so they know it's worth buying.
3) *Do NOT DM people about commissions unless they are EXPLICITLY ASKING FOR COMMISSIONS.* As an artist AND a consumer, I can't tell you how infuriating it is to see someone in my DMs like "hey wanna buy my art?" NO MF! AND I will report you for scamming because I DO NOT KNOW YOU. It's common courtesy to go after CUSTOMERS, not RANDOM PEOPLE.
4) *NETWORK, NETWORK, NETWORK!!!* If you want to make a living by selling your art, NETWORK!!!!!! Grow your clientele! Artists can make hella good money with repeat customers, so make sure you're networking and getting to know people! The more people you know, the more customers you will get! Find your connections! (This is NOT the same as DMing strangers asking them to buy your commissions! Networking is about connections!)
Hopefully these tips can lessen your anxiety about the situation. If someone tries to claim you are a scammer, BLOCK THE HOE! Have fun!
A good way to avoid the artist scam is to ask for their portfolio/social media. If it looks like they have 294828 styles or no portfolio at all, just pass.
It hurts to see people do this because I'm an artist, and some of my clients may prefer Discord to communicate, but this makes it harder for smaller artists and those starting to grow a clientele
Uhh, how do you require someone to keep one artstyle? That's not possible, I'm an artist in art school, and I've seen many of us struggle to keep one artstyle, especially with the things you often need to fix. We're not Sam Does Arts, or an AI.
@@RimFaxxe There is clear difference between experimenting and trying things and someone drawing the anatomy/shading in a completely different way. If you go from a very sharp style with a very defined anatomy to a painterly style in which the faces don't even look like they are drawn by the same person to me that looks more like they are stealing art from others.
I also struggled a lot with having an art style but people from outside can still pick details that you may not notice that very clearly look like they have been done by the same person.
@@neyuse ooh okay, thanks for clarifying, that actually makes a lot of sense
What is the 294828 style? Just wondering in case if someone attempts to scam me.
@@epictoast sorry I meant to say their gallery looks like they have a lot of art styles, is not an specific thing
2:03 as a former gfx artist, i can confirm that they most definitely do not need this "har" file. not sure if its done any differently today but when i did them, you literally just put their username into roblox studio and import the model into blender
i dont care
@@hamletonline I don't care that you don't care.
@@hamletonline we didnt ask
@@fanafelgminecraft5789 I didn’t ask if we didn’t ask
@@Fox_grove grammar 💯
as an artist myself, heres some advice to any other artists: if you want people to commission you, just post your art on servers and wait for people to just willingly commission you.
How to not get scammed 101:
1. Don't have money
2. Don't have discord (very good for mental health and privacy)
3. Don't be dumb
4. Don't trust artists with "har" files
5. Don't have working internet
har har?
@@link_team3855 Harhar!
I just trust no one
@@hoshiya. Fiddle dee dee
I could smell this was an AI art scam from a mile away lol, "pay me to type in prompts into Stable Diffusion" lol
Ain't there some law or something in place that requires you to state it is ai-generated now? Or am I misremembering?
@@Projectarchan no idea but I wouldnt be shocked if its a law now.
If you paid someone and they put prompts into Stable Diffusion it wouldn't be a scam unless what they gave you was awful quality below the level they advertised. The problem is that you pay them and they give you NOTHING.
To be honest this is probably 75% of the reason Discord is 13+...
13 year olds could fall for these too
@@AwesomeYena dawg this just could be me but i wouldent fall for this when i was 9
@@7_moood a lot of kids are actually smart and wouldn’t fall for this kind of scam, but unfortunately there are also a lot of kids who are complete morons and will get scammed by the dumbest scams ever
@@7_moood Me neither. when I little I was also sending messages to spambots trying to steal my account on ROBLOX with "Keep your scams to yourself"
@@AwesomeYena Much less than a 7 year old...
The Discord Artist Scam is so annoying, I always keep getting those messages from people that are on the official VRChat server, and the scheme is literally the same as it was shown in the video 💀
They usually use ai, which is why it's always the same.
happened to me just now☠️
I got one of the artist scams a few weeks back, and since they were being nice in conversation and didn't seem too forceful about payment about it i just went along with it, after about 10 minutes of talking about art they suddenly pulled out the "I actually need emergency funds for my dog because he got into a car accident" excuse and tried to haggle for a high price because of that. I'm usually pretty paranoid of scams, but i could honestly see some of my friends falling for it since one of them even fell for the "i reported your steam account" scam. Some people just don't realize when it's happening, and by the time they do it's too late, kinda sucks on how they take advantage of people like that :/
I once was on a server looking for an artist and among many there was one that didn't give me their portfolio saying that it all got deleted but that they are working on a piece now and that they'll send it later. I wait, and they send what looks like an ai generated image, but maybe it's just 3d. I give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them if it's 3d. They start to get a little angry saying they lost all their drawings (already said that, not answering the question). Then they ask me how would I like the picture to be made. I say there's no way I'm going to pay someone for a drawing if I don't know how it'll look in the end. I try to explain it to them, they keep on insisting that they can draw the picture I want. I see this gets nowhere, ignore them. Decide on another artist that actually showed their work, pay them after the sketch, a few days of back and forth with the artist about little changes and them sending updates. Now I have a beautiful drawing.
Moral of the story: Always go with someone who can show you their previous work. And I guess paying after a sketch is done is another layer to protect yourself. And for artist: Watermark the commission until it's paid.
i got the "artist" scam. i avoided it by saying i was under 18 and didn't have PayPal, and i didn't have a clue it was a scam, im usually good at telling scams apart and avoiding it
A good operational security for things like that is assume all services that you didn't personally request are a scam attempt, especially through Discord.
Whenever I get the artist scam, I just let them send me "their art," and tell them I'm not interested. They've never bothered me after that...
That sure does happen to me both on Twitter, and Discord! Thanks to you for uploading this video, now I'll remember how to prevent these art scams! :)
As an artist who actually draws stuff on commissions, shit like this first scam makes it harder for me to find clients.
I get exclusively art scams of the non-emergency variety. The funny part is, the server they contact me from, is a VRChat community that I am a partnered artist with, that has a dedicated commissions forum. I don't need commissions, I am an artist, I do my own work, and there's a commissions forum. Every single time, I, through conversation, warn them that I'm already an artist, and then politely inform them that they're acting like a scammer, and direct them to the commissions forum. They remind me that they're "not a scammer", and leave the server to go scam somewhere else.
Every time.
Usually the things they offer are 2D art, 3D art, vtuber model, live stream overlay, etc
The part of that, to me, that's a massive red flag, is the fact that they're good at three major, separate categories: 2D art, 3D art, and vtuber models. Most vtuber models are "live 2D", which is an insane system that requires immense amount of dedicated skill, and those models usually cost upwards of thousands of dollars, because of how insanely difficult they are to make. The fact that these "artists" can make those, as well as professional 3D art and 2D art and live stream overlays, and for cheap, is an obvious giveaway that they're making shit up.
Oh hi bakers!
Happy to finally see the art scam covered here.
I’ve talked to 2 of these artist scams, both claiming they could make 3D models. So I ask them to show me a wireframe of one of their models. Many messages later, and these artists didn’t even know what a wireframe was. Meanwhile they were asking hundreds of dollars for a model that at most would take an hour. (I would know as someone who makes 3D models)
If anyone asks you for commissions unprompted, best to ignore them or HEAVILY scrutinize their art or skills. Avoid PayPal friends and family too if they ask for payment.
"A family might die, but you know that sometimes is an L you gotta take."
how to not get scammed:
1) live in a remote location (preferably in the middle of the jungle or desert where there's no internet and absolutely no signal
2) do not have any electronic devices, and do not have any radios
3) turn into a privacy guy and install super dark shades on your curtains
4) never let anyone into your house, even if it's the delivery man
wait until the oxygen atoms start scamming you
5:25 ain't that the girl from the dangers in my heart
it is💀💀💀
As an artist who does commissions, this is sick. :/ and goes 1000% against how artists typically do this process. An artist [at least a self respecting one] NEVER goes to contact a customer unsolicited. Usually they'll have a post or commissions card and wait for a client to message first. Its sad to see this sort of scam just growing more and more with the rise of AI art. Not to mention damages the art community as a whole as for anyone whos been scammed is likely less inclined to ever commission art again.
i’m a rookie game developer in Scratch and Roblox, and my discord account got hacked once. hacker sent stuff to my friends about a “private release” of a “game”. sometimes, i send my friends like, preview things of my game in the form of exes and such, so they thought i was just sending them a new game. thank god none of them had the time to open the files the hacker sent.
The funny thing about this, is that i received these a lot, and i mean like more that 10 different ppl. Not knowing it's a scam, luckily, I refused to. I was literally like "Commissioning? Yes? I draw for myself (not an artist,) so no. Stop DMing me!" 0:20 that was one of them.
However, i would have fallen for it in the future, so... much thanks for this video.
I've remarkably never been scammed on Discord
All discords scam are so lame
there is a reason your pfp is a W
I wonder when will be the day that i find something believable enough, without any red flag of known scams
@Kyminion:(
I haven't either
I love that UA-cam promoted a Robux scam livestream next to this video so people can report it and UA-cam does nothing.
6:36 so no one is gonna talk about how he’s getting 100 notifications in less than 2 minutes 💀💀
Well I guess no one noticed besides you😂
@@PikalinkFN 😭
@@yayaguest666fire lol good eye I didn't notice until you said it
this is absolutely bull crap on the fact that actual artist scamming exists; that's only going to make actual competent artists a bad name 💀💀💀
Imagine youre actually an Artist who just lost his job and you cant ask for a emergency commission because there's a scam like this going on
Something I still don't quite understand, as a white hat hacker myself, why would anyone need Discord login information?
So you got the information, great! Now what?
The only thing I can think of is them sending virusses around on your friends list I guess.
Services selling members. They need accounts that don’t look botted, so they steal your info and make your account join these servers. Or they use them for other scams like stealing steam accounts. Plus, people are lazy. They often use the same credentials for different platforms. So stealing credentials from your discord account might also steal your email and other game accounts.
"Do NOT give away your credentials"
Anyways if you find a scam report it here by logging in with your email and the password that you probably use everywhere.
mate is your point just that nobody should log in anywhere ???
That was the bestest speech I’ve ever heard tearing up (nice animation btw)
as a legit artist the artist scam draws up fury for me.
To be honest the roblox scam you showed, I once fell for. I am grateful I didn’t have that many roblox items because it could’ve gone much worse!
How is NTTS not a Discord admin??? This dude saved alot of Discord accounts!
Because he's also criticising Discord, and it's hurting Discord's feelings
4:11 for those who don't know this gibberish code ntts was talking about.
This code is a obfuscated
JavaScript(JS) code.
Obfuscation is a technique to transform readable and understandable JavaScript code into a more complex and difficult-to-understand version, while still maintaining its functionality.
Note: if you know and use scripts like this and you encountered some of the codes just like in the video, they contain malicious code like: ip and token grabber, so it's best to check for any malicious code before using it:)
These transitions are smooth
Yeah one server I help gets inundated with tons of investment scams, "looking for moderators/beta testers/admins/artists/etc etc etc" scams and whatnot else.
I'm more mad that they used Mitsurugi Lia's avatar for their shenanigans than the fact that they're scamming people
I believe scams are just going to devolve to "give me money" or "give account" with 10 grammatical errors somehow
Omg I finally found someone talking about the art commission scam!! I get these like once every 2 weeks. They always give a sob story saying"I can't pay rent/my bills 💔".
It's kinda funny to mess with em but I can't help feeling bad sometimes.... My empathetic side and the fact that I'm an Artist myself makes it feel like I should just commission them 😔 though their art low-key looks like traced garbage.
NTTS you have told the scammers how to scam better 💀💀💀 (3:06)
A few days ago someone texted me like this, it wasnt the first time so the second they said the whole "im a designer and i do commissions" shit i just spammed them with insults and nsfw, tbh im so tired of these, especially that they ruin the reputation of people who actually do commissions to get some money
I'd strongly recommend against opening any sort of random PDF file sent by anyone you cannot trust, especially over Discord.
They can contain malicious and hidden code that automatically execute, this is done through several exploits in the way a PDF file works.
MOST web browsers and antiviruses (Windows Defender etc.) *should* protect you from this nowadays, but you can never be too sure.
Other files to look out for that can possibly be a little "iffy" to open would be .bat .vbs .exe .scr .rtf - etc.
Thank you for making this video it will aware awareness for those who fell for this
OMG those furry "artists" scammers... I had at least 25 of them on Twitter and now they moved to Discord. The funny thing is that they literally don't care what you say, I'm like "I don't even have money for food" at they "I usually charge 500$ but I offer you a special price of just 150$" for low quality art
Great video! Btw, can you increase the audio like 5 - 10%? I notice it only on your videos that the audio is quite low.
On the discord artist scams, i've got actually ONE.
So, uh i was just playing roblox cassually when i get a DM from someone, saying if that they could make me UA-cam/Twitch Emojis/pfps just for 50$ because he's an artists and he needs to pay his debts and food, he then send me some of the stuff he did for other people, but then while looking at google i found the same exact images, and then i told him to go scam someone else and blocked him.
6:39 are we going to talk about his notifications going up that fast...
I've gotten so many artist scams as of late. I still don't know why anyone would fall for them as its really easy to see the inconsistencies in the artwork they show.
These artist scams are all over twitter too, and sometimes they’re brazen enough to claim vtuber models from HOLOLIVE as their own 😂
thank you for talking about the roblox scam. i was scammed using it and i lost a bunch of items in games and the games did nothing about it after reporting it about 5 times
I took one of these up as i was actually looking for a commission (this was before the whole AI art stuff) and they actually did deliver the art very promptly and it was pretty well done for the price i paid.
Honestly, when ntts posts my day is made.
Man idk about other artists but if I was to open for commissions I would never fckn message random people asking if they want one, that's just obnoxious and rude. I'd be waiting for someone to message me directly asking for one, y'know, like a normal person. Jumping into dms and asking random people if they wanna buy commissions has the same energy as someone knocking on the door of a random house and then proceeding to try and sell a toaster to a stranger
I got a lot of these "art" scams, but one was really weird he clicked all my links (grabify) and even tried running an exe i send him as an "image" (windows defender deleted it before he could run it) and he still hasn't blocked me and replies to everything i send him. But im still pretty sure it is a scammer.
I did something similar. The grabify link said “South Brisbane, Australia”. When I asked them “so how’s the weather in Australia” they said they weren’t from Australia… VPN
So I did a little digging, and was able to find some damming evidence; the call center’s address.
Looked it up on Google maps, left a review of the call center with a screenshot of the scammer’s messages, and then reported to the proper authorities. 😊
Wait that's so funny! I actually got a DM asking if I wanted to commission them, thought it was just weird. Had no idea it was a scam. (I politely declined since I definitely wasn't interested)
i just started watching you 30 or so minutes ago and i love you
Gotta watch out their "lines" too....they always say the same thing
"How are you"
"I'm actually an artist"
Or "do you like artwork?"
AND THEIR PRICES!
"Full body $200-$250"
And my favorite
"Your profile picture caught my eye😍"
Ive been studying and saving their art to see if they match ←tip if want to troll scammers
At least with that first one you can theoretically send it as goods and services (which every reputable artist will have you use) and when they try and run off with your money you can chargeback
The only thing I liked about Ntts is the way he explains the topic it's just so hilarious😂
unironically, i may have a case of falling for the artist scam (i can already tell that they made ai art judging by their bazillion styles); but honestly i didn't really care for that "artist" much tbh and just decided to give them 25$ for shits and giggles
all i'm thankful is that it led me into being confident on how to contact the bank, and quite frankly i already wasted more money on useless stuff than 25$ anyway since i get paid every month
I get the "proffessional artist" one quite a lot and also the steam account report scam from time to time
Oh these scam videos are always so yummy 😋... doin gigachad work out here, great videos!
I used to get either those artist or Steam Account scams maybe once or twice a week. Lately, I've been getting them 2-4 times a day. They are so frickin' annoying.
I laugh at the commission scammers. Because my usual 'uno reverse is '...
"Dude, I draw my own characters and things I want all the time. why would I pay someone to do what I ALREADY do?' I get instantly blocked.
That people fall for these scams is really disappointing.
The Artist scam probably happened to me.
Someone DM’d me and said that can make twitch overlays and sent me just over dramatic twitch overlays.
Little did she know, I don’t need twitch overlays. I don’t stream.
But of course, I’m too nice and recommended a server that people often want commissions from.
They said thank you, I didn’t actually see them advertise in the server, I think they were trying to scam me? But.. I dunno.
When people say they’re too nice they aren’t. And your a perfect representation of that.
@@Pinapo. I don’t really understand. Do you really think people aren’t nice anymore? 😅
Even tho this video is 6 months old, these scams do continue.
Recently, the art commission scams have turned to people randomly messaging you and asking if your profile picture is your original character. They will then ask YOU if YOU want to commission THEM (fyi, not how that works). They then will send traced or fully stolen pieces. I shut down every conversation the moment someone asks if that's my character in my profile picture.
When you said something about eating a battery as a child, it reminded me of when I was a child, I shoved a watch battery in my ear.
bro i just love this videos😭😭
I might be a total idiot but what client of Discord were you using in this video? I love seeing the admin owner things next to the usernames!
Whenever I see a message request by a user with an anime pfp in a furry server, I tend to assume it’s one of these.
This has to be one of the worst scams I've seen so far
Mainly because I'm someone who ACTUALLY sells art and character designs! It sucks knowing that someone is using a method that many people rely on for their income to scam people :(
How can you get scammed when you have nothing to be scammed out of.
Fun fact I fell for an artist scam out of 60$ and they needed up tracing my ref and then lied about their “ram broken” and the picture they showed me was Linus tech tip thumbnail, huge bummer to me
I was once actually a target for that artist scam. Didn't think it was a scam but I didn't take it because their art style was weird and not consistent. Good to know it was a scam
"Atleast i ate batteries as a kid" Did not see that one comming xD
I got that scam but on twitter. Their paypal even goes to a marketing company. And their social media is barely new.
This Roblox scam happend to me a month back what they did is say im a gfx artist and I fell for it not know what i was doing at all Thanks for explaining this scam/hack I also had a feeling that the person was gonna scam me
As an artist who takes commissions, if you have an artist come into DMs to ask for YOU to pay them for a commission, even if legitimate, ignore it, its already kinda seen as rude from the artist to begin with
thank you for telling me these methods i'll make sure to use them in the future
Me : *sees thumbnail*
Also Me : Would you say that you're losing your mind?
No Text To Speech: Just a little.
2:46 respect my dude for saying the truth (dont harrase me in replies plz
)
I got one of these on Twitter. I just said I didn’t need something made but nice to know it’s a scam.
7:00 i think the space in the link wasn't meant to be there nor the bracket
New Lesson Learned
**Never Friend Random ass Strangers**
thanks for covering this up i got scammed by one of those roblox ones
I remember a guy asked me if i wanted to have gfx art of my roblox avatar, im glad ive blocked him after seeing this
The artist scam my brother fell for, he lost his Discord account because of it, granted we don't have PayPal or anything, so I don't think he lost money or anything.
you know its bad when even google tries to save you
Shorten version of the title: ntts relies he’s losing his will to live😱😱😱
When you come from team fortress 2, you are hardened to the scape of phishing and scammers. The thing is, it's funny how here people just want to steal shitty nitro subs instead.
imagine a world without these scammers... oh wait, that'll never happen
The artist one is an actual nightmare for us Vtubers. We definitely get hit more.
I love this guy fr the way he talks and the jokes
Nice video Barney!!!!
jumpscare at the end