New Zealand Rugby’s Downfall…
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- Опубліковано 6 гру 2022
- In this video, I explore a range of factors that are impacting New Zealand Rugby Union's success on and off the field.
2022 was a challenging season for the All Blacks, recording losses to Ireland, South Africa and Argentina, while having close contests with Australia, Japan, England and Scotland.
They fell to a record low world ranking, while slowly damaging the 'aura' that the All Blacks have built over many, many years.
With Rugby World Cup 2023 around the corner, analysing the range of factors impacting the All Blacks and participation in New Zealand Rugby will hopefully provide viewers with more clarity on the situation unfolding.
Fortunately, issues impacting on New Zealand Rugby are similar to other top-tier countries: participation rates, grassroots rugby, coaching confidence and players being signed to overseas competitions.
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2011-2015 Era ABs was a very solid and had most aspects of our game covered. As a fan it’s hard to see how it is these days but will always support them. Awesome content and breakdown bro
Cheers legend !
Bro you are prophetic.You knew all blacks Dowfall before the World Cup final. Much respect to your analysis.Well up the boks 🎉🎉🎉
Miss the South Africans in Super rugby ❤ they gave us the intensity we needed
As an Aucklander I have to say the elephant in the room is Rugby has largely become a regional sport in the last few years. League is as popular as ever as it never quite lost it's rebellious working class vibe/charm. Even in the Late 90s-Early 2000s when the Blues were at their pomp and Auckland were still the best team in land, Eden Park would struggle to get crowds outside of All Black Games. While Auckland is by no means the biggest city it's still 2/5ths of the country give or take and there is just more you here with your free time. And as for grassroots, other than League/soccer which will always compete, Basketball is fastest growing sport in Highschools all over the country, for both genders. It wouldn't surprise me if Hoops is New Zealand's most popular sport in this century
Mate try playing both codes and having an appreciation for both League & Union and broaden that mind of yours, The league boys came off 2nd best this year, at Fight for Life. What happened there? I've played both. For Te Papapa, Manukau Rovers RFU & Manukau RL & St George RL in Wellington. Stop knocking Rugby Union bud, up2??? Why even work up the effort.
@@richardmatatahi4563 For the record I played both codes as well. Where in my comment am I "knocking Rugby Union"?, I am discussing the popularity of the sport in Auckland. Union games in the Super City outside of the All Blacks don't attract the crowds the way Warriors games and even grass roots League games do. And unfortunately for both codes (and probably contact sports in general) a large portion people who would have grown up playing rugby (either code) in schools nowadays play basketball (and this is even reflected in the school sports participation statistics from the ministry of Education). This is not just me saying this, the NZRU has specifically said this is one of their biggest concerns for the growth of the sport in the future.
@@ayou055
Never knew Rugby Union was not number one sport in new Zealand.
Outside the NZ Warriors, Rugby league ain't advertising itself. Didn't even realize the Fox Memorial was on the other day the crowd was poor there too.
Wait when the All Blacks & South Africa play at Mt Smart later this year, and Rugby, cricket, soccer, netball & basketball are listed as the most popular sport played at school in New Zealand. I just checked it out.
@@richardmatatahi4563 As i said, I am talking about Auckland (not the regions). And I specifically said Other than the All Blacks in Auckland, Rugby does not attract the crowds that Rugby League does. And as a participation sport for both genders Basketball is growing rapidly. Though of course basketball is growing everywhere not just Auckland.
As a New Zealander myself, I'm not the major rugby fan, but I always loved that New Zealand was well known for being good at it. I started wondering, what ever happened to NZ rugby and why we don't hear about it as much anymore. Thanks for making such an insightful video about it. Hopefully soon the All Blacks buck up and get back out there to dominate the world stage again!
Man that intro... Agree with everything you're saying and its true... many of these issues are worldwide.
12 years ago I have a conversation with a kiwi in the UK and I predicted what would happen. (1) I said the centre of mass of rugby would be Europe in the medium term and the USA in the long term. Places like NZ would have to stop the flow of talent out of the country even of the players who had no hope of being in the AB's. There would be a decline of all sports in countries of extreme isolation due to the environmental effect of non-essential air travel ( this hasn't quite got there yet). All in all, what I think is going to happen is places like NZ are going to see waves of success in the future but not the constant stream like there has been in the past. I didn't see SA jumping ship and joining Europe which just makes things worse for NZ.
There's a possibility of NZ having to base some club teams and possibly a national side either in Europe or the US to survive long term!
Im actually pretty happy theyre falling off a bit, gives other teams like the Aussies a better chance and makes games more interesting. But i couldnt belive that Steve hansen has won 93 out of 107 games... that is wild. keep the vides up mate
Laumape has a terrible attitude. He never should have been an AB.
Weapon of a ball runner tho 😅
@@uggy Laumape cost us the Lions series
It was always going to happen. Rugby union just hasn't been big enough globally to have too many teams able to compete with NZ. The second lottery they won was the sport being stubbornly amateur for nearly a century after it should've been.
Ireland is one nation currently doing well, but that appears to be a golden generation or two, and they may quickly decline (like Australia did) in the next decade.
NZ is just having a bit of an existential crisis because their religiously worshipped all blacks have had a couple of years where they're not as dominant as what kiwis are used to. Plus, NZ is a country that has never had a culture of professional sport, so they were always going to have a hard time dealing with professionalism. The Super Rugby comp is dire and losing money, and thus they need to find alternative revenue streams, and now they're accepting foreign investors (Silver Lake) to prop up the whole show.
Well said! Thanks for the comment brother love your input
I think the difference between ireland and Australia is that rugby union in Australia is really dying because of lack of interest. I'm Irish and live in Australia and no one talks about it here as they have rugby league and AFL. In ireland it's growing and getting more popular so I don't see a massive decline coming
@@Mark76556 Wow, that's interesting Mark. I would've assumed that behind Gaelic Football, Hurling & Soccer that rugby union would have little wiggle room to grow in Ireland.
The Super Rugby conference system for me is one of the key reasons New Zealand rugby has declined.
The Aussie teams became weak and without the South African teams New Zealand became isolated from formidable opposition.
Long story short we shouldn't have kicked the Saffa's out and that 40 match win streak over Australian super rugby teams although entertaining was absolutely terrible for the game :D
🤣 couldn’t agree more. To be honest, super rugby just isn’t doing it for most fans anymore. I’ve lost interest even though I’m trying not too. Definitely need more teams and the empty seats are really discouraging.
Aussies and Kiwis these days prefer NRL over Super Rugby that’s why both the Wallabies and the All Blacks aren’t in their prime anymore.
NZ didnt kick SA out. They used COVID to exclude as Aussie were finding the travel bills to SA too onerous. The Saffers have been threatening to go north fr years and it gave them the excuse. Poor management form NZ all round
French here. We do not have schoolboy rugby here, everyone plays for a club, from the lowest league to the highest (top 14). The leagues are all connected so starting from the bottom, any team could theorically reach the TOP 14 if successful. And also we used to have a problem with too much foreign players in french teams, which lead to not enough young french players playing in the TOP 14 or PRO D2. To solve the issue, they actually created the "JIFF" concept, which means that any professional team would need to have a certain percentage (~50%) of players (the JIFFs) trained in french clubs in any professional game. this might actually be one of the reason for our national team level at the moment.
Wow! Thanks for the inside info
Wonderful written & edited video pal!
As an ex pat kiwi, I'm loving seeing the likes of Ireland & France doing so well...having Foster as coach REALLY adds to tht viewpoint too lol.
The bit about only certain private schools being the main avenue to advancing was very sobering & an obvious bottleneck to actual progress...I imagine having the best local club side from each province in a once a year knockout cup wld be great for NZ and similar countries like Oz, to really add interest to local club rugby
You are making my day haha! Thanks heaps. & completely agree with you with Ireland and France 😂 Foster doesn’t do it for me!
& yeah.. it really is muddled between school / club rugby here in Australia too
@@uggy 👍 also appreciate how u add good current stats graphics too
@@Villafarrell You're a legend! I reckon my next video you will thoroughly enjoy haha.
Great vid mate. As a New Zealander I agree with your points. At a school boy level rugby is becoming solely focused on the elite players. Such a shame to see. After this World Cup the all blacks MUST get Scott Robinson on the job!
Thanks!! Really wish I could tap into my kiwi colleagues more! & agree, will be interesting to see if Razor gets tempted to go elsewhere. It’ll really spice things up if NZ win the cup too 😂 thanks again, appreciate the comment!
Enjoyed your video and subscribed.
Agree with your main talking points.
Improved competition - The rise in strength of 6N rugby is the best thing that can happen to the game, remember in 2016 when the All Blacks won every RC game with a bonus point and we thought were on the way to setting a new world record for most consecutive test wins? At the time Kiwi press, pundits and fans were falsely bemoaning the state of international rugby and complaining the processsion of wins was getting boring because there was no competition. Now tests involving the All Blacks aren't always foregone conclusions, there's an edge and uncertainty leading into the game and that's healthy.
Weak Super rugby - NZRU took advantage of Covid to follow the recommendations from the Aratipu report, however folding the old competition was the best thing for SA rugby and looking back the worst thing for NZ rugby. NZ desperately needs a strong Australia because the validity of Super Rugby Pacific weighs heavily on Oz shoulders. If the game in Oz continues to decline in quality, participation numbers, media profile and fan engagement, they will drag us down with them. The funny thing is that SA teams weren't that much better in terms of wins when compared to Australian teams in Super rugby, so is SA's better performances in the URC due to a weaker competition or the improved strength of their teams?
Coaching - put aside the debate Fozzie vs Razor and ask the deeper question instead "Are the best coaches coaching in NZ?" and I'm not just talking about Kiwi coaches. Since 2004 NZ rugby were the games innovators and Kiwi coaching talent was much sought after. With Europe moving ahead of the game played in the southern hemisphere, where are the European coaching influences in NZ? Joe Schmidt is involved with the All Blacks but who else?
U20 - Historically NZRU has always differed to other countries on their philosophy for this team. The main priority is to prepare their U20 players for professional rugby and NOT to win the U20 world cup, their program was good enough in the past to consistently achieve both goals until their rivals started to invest more money, resources and build local competitions for their age grade teams.
Silver Lake deal - There are many red flags with private equity investment. NZRU wanted to find a partner following CVC's deal with Six Nations, but they sold us on the idea they "needed to find a partner". Players association raised concerns and questions where a new deal was forged with less money and equity than the original proposal. Yes grassroots rugby will benefit in the short term but its still a leap of faith that this injection of cash is going to fix the most pervading problems in the community game. The provincial unions need to do more and better rather than relying on a handout. $200M is a significant amount of money for NZ rugby but they also have more mouths to feed than before and womens rugby may be the most to gain from this investment.
Womens rugby - depending on whether you believe Black Ferns achieved their famous world cup title because of NZRU or in spite of them, they debunked the lie that you can't replace a coach inside of 12 months preparing for a world cup, if you select the right coach to replace the incumbent. Watching the women play is more entertaining and fulfilling than their male counterparts at the moment. Hopefully male rugby players will be inspired by the wahine toa to let their guards down, show the public their real personalities and view the press as their partners not their enemies.
Wow thank you, I feel like I’ve just learned a lot from your comment 👍 thoroughly enjoyed reading! Happy new year
The home-grown issue or debate in NZ is a double edged sword. Of the 57 “home grown” players mentioned here, most of those players are Islanders - it could be argued “poached” by NZ in the first place. Much of the lack of progress of Pacific Island teams lies squarely on NZ and to a lesser extent Australia.
The new eligibility rules by World Rugby might actually expose more of NZ rugby’s weak underbelly than meets the eye.
I would like to see a list of the Top 100 players of Polynesian descent in NZ over the past 10 years, and see how many of those players’ parents were born and raised in NZ…. I suspect we might a very interesting picture.
If their ‘loyalty’ over the years has been centred on economic security - then NZ rugby is a house of cards. The Japanese and European money bags will destroy NZ rugby.
I think NZ has a lot of thinking to do. The Charles Pitau saga was very interesting for me. The rugby landscape could look very different by the end of this decade.
Such a great vid and so well researched - thanks for explaining the grassroots situation. I think it’s definitely a combo of all of those things, including losing coaching talent to overseas and therefore rugby coaching IP going with it. Seeing the decline makes you realise how freakish they are at full strength. It’s difficult (as a kiwi) to see the slump happening but the upside is how close all the teams are now, and the added element of having no forking idea of who will win the RWC (have to say though, that even when ABs are at full strength I was always hopeful but never expecting they’d win). I’m hoping that after Foster, NZ Rugby will get someone fresh in (RAZOR) because we clearly need some new ideas to resurrect things and keep progressing. I’m glad they at least have Jason Ryan in there cause he has clearly made a difference. I’m so impatient for the rugby season to start. As a side note: I wonder if South Africa will ever come back to Super Rugby. They probably don’t want to.
Wow thanks! Really enjoyed reading your comment too, it’s interesting hey when you think about how many countries are actually relying on New Zealand rugby in some form or another (players, coaches, marquee matches).
SA look really comfy in the URC, and I think it actually saves Aus / NZ a tonne of money.
It’s sucks but I think down the track super rugby needs to have more teams, or even a relegation system which for AUS would mean collapsing all the current teams..
NZ is a lot smaller but over here the QLD Reds are based in Brisbane so hardly anyone in the huge state of Queensland can actually go and watch a Reds game or even meet the players. Where league have four teams now spread out 👍
Club rugby is booming here, some games probably get crowds similar to the Reds? Which makes me think more teams would work fine.
Plus take club rugby or the NPC the quality is great, id happily watch it on TV.
@@uggy Read an article in The Roar Rugby yesterday about RA having plans to work with Japan on creating an Asia-Pacific version of the "Heineken Cup" since JRU is very keen on working together with both them and NZRU on such a comp that combines the League One and SR into one fully fledged competition after both finish their respective seasons.
Something like the top 2 teams from each conference battling it out in the Champions division while the rest of the other teams play in the Challenge equivalent, including the Drua (AU) and Moana Pasifika (NZ).
Unfortunately COVID shelved the plans but it does goes to show how serious Japan is on joining the RC itself through this little Asia-Pacific competition indirectly with favorable logistics and massive financial benefits.
Can't beat Europe's money.
Very interesting video. For your information, on the French national team jerseys, all the small clubs are printed in small characters. It was one of the many initiatives by current coach Fabien Galtié to bridge the gap between grass roots rugby and the national team.
Wow!! That is bloody awesome. France really have something special going on. Glad you could share that with me, I find it really hard to get French rugby information due to the language barrier for most of the media coverage. Thanks !!
@Uggy with professional rugby, the level is getting closer all around the world.
On the bright side for New Zealand, you have one of the best women team in the world.
This is great, I agree the rest of the world are getting stronger
Not really
The NRL poaches more NZ rugby players than an other foreign Union
best video yet, nice job
Wow thanks !
great vid from SA
Thanks!! Appreciate it
Orsum vid mate. Probably a couple of things I'd add are a failure to develop key combinations and a little more on coaches.
Firstly combos. The nz style of play, wide ranging interplay between fwds and backs, is highly dependent on precision, and that definitely requires combos. Think the 2015 rwc backline: A.Smith to Carter to Nonu to C.Smith. Possibly the greatest combo in rugby history(?). Going back a few decades, you'll find our most successful teams have had fantastic centre pairings, eg Taylor and Stanley in '87 and Little and Bunce in '95. Today, nz rugby seems to think we can slot players in like for like, as tho they're Lego pieces. Definitely not working.
Re coaches, while you mentioned Fozzie n Razor, at the lower levels, I know a number of keen and talented coaches who got nowhere in the nz system so either quit or took opportunities overseas. It's an old boys club. Mates getting mates jobs. That's fine if Wayne Smith is your mate, but it's catching up to us now.
Personally I believe nz has the talent, for now, to compete with the top teams, but as your vid mentions, they're just not prepared for week in week out test match standard rugby
Cheers! And some great insight couldn’t agree more.. I think it’s Graham Henry’s book that talks about his methodologies around choosing chemistry over talent! You really put that back into my mind. Not many blokes playing week in week out standing next to each other too. Smith (Highlanders), Barrett (Blues), Barrett (Hurricanes)/Havili (Crusaders) etc.
@@uggy yup, Ted's theory on chemistry rings a bell. One thing that does my head in is how little nz super teams stick to a xv. They just continuously chop n change, hence why they're so disjointed. And partly why the standard of super rugby is going down.
I did have another thought to add. McCaws legacy. As much as everyone pushes the team culture thing, mccaw seems to have made it particularly important. The discipline standards set the tone. These days, I don't think those discipline standards are there, and might be linked to the team leadership or possibly a fracture since 2015. I have no idea, but wouldn't be surprised if the team disagree over who should be captain. All guessing tho
The demise of Super Rugby is something that New Zealand rugby never saw coming. This has expedited the decline of the All Blacks.
When they essentially froze out the South African teams during COVID they didn’t realise the damage it would cause to the competitiveness of NZ rugby. The varieties and styles and passion that SA, Aus & NZ rugby displayed combined to make all three nations more competitive and dominant on the world stage.
With the present dismal ratings and predictable outcomes of Super Rugby, NZ rugby have realised that they needed the partnership with SA rugby.
A huge fan base of expat South Africans would also religiously attend Super rugby games in Aus and NZ that involved SA sides. That doesn’t happen anymore.
South African rugby joining the URC has been an over riding success both commercially and competitively with South African teams not as hampered by the jet lagged four week tours they used to undertake to Aus and NZ during Super Rugby. Those away mini tours were a huge disadvantage to the SA teams physically.
The URC away games are still tough but they are at most two weeks with no time zone jet lag.
This combined with the very big possibility of SA potentially joining the Six Nations (because of the commercial and competitive success of the URC) SA rugby will continue to develop and evolve and might even improve.
SA’s passion for school boy rugby (which also isn’t just reserved for just the private schools) attracts larger crowds than most Super Rugby Pacific matches.
Essentially NZ rugby shot themselves in the foot with their arrogant “we don’t need them” attitude.
It sad because Super Rugby was really enjoyable and was a commercial success for everyone.
It’s no coincidence that one of the worst periods in modern AB history has occurred after the demise if the original Super Rugby.
Nzers will never admit this fact, they will harp on how many SR titles they won and discount and trivialize the traveling factor as a disadvantage the safa sides suffered adding to that how safa sides were basically on part with Ozzie SR sides who did not incur this disadvantage.
NZ rugby doesn't have as much participants as compared to other bigger tier one countries. The rise of technology has really hurt grassroots rugby because kids would rather play on their devices. Graham Henry actually warned NZ years ago that the other countries would rise. NZ punches well above their weight but when you go and halve the power of the punch by taking away participants, it makes it a lot harder to keep winning. I agree with your whole video btw
Really appreciate the comment & input brother!! So motivating to keep going 💪
& graham henry! What a throwback to an absolute legend
An issue I see in provincial NZ, concerns school leavers. The leaving age is 16 years and the smaller NZ cities/towns clubs can't cater for those kids. You either stay at school and play or go to a club that often don't have age group teams. If you do, then you're choosing to play against men. Most opt out.
Damn that’s crazy, I heard there’s not really any club rugby at high school age over there?
It would be interesting to hear your opinion about how rugby leagues pacific revolution could potentially impact the All Blacks and NZ rugby in the future
I will bring this to you 100%
@@uggy Thank you so much I cannot wait. Im also very curious to know how NRL viewership in NZ might look like in the future especially when you have a weak Super Rugby competition that has 75% of its tv viewership being boomers and gen xers but I'm sure you'll cover some of those points
@@tinasherusike7458 haha thanks for the idea !! & yes it may wait until my microphone arrives because SANZAR are super strict with their copyright so will be better to have alternative footage! In the next few weeks I am covering how good each Polynesian country could be at the World Cup & Melanesian (Fiji) 😂👍
been happening for years New Zealand players are spread accross many clubs in the NRL who are kiwi born it hasn't been a major worry at all.
@@richardmatatahi4563 But thats all the past what im interested about is the future. The rugby league Pacific Revolution is centered in NZ within the Tongan and Samoan communities and at the same time you have a weak Super Rugby that cannot match the NRL for star power, depth of quality teams and most importantly entertainment. My question to you is how could this impact the future of the All Blacks? Will we see more and more talent like Carlos Spencers son being lured to league the same way that we have been seeing the likes of Nelson Asofa Solomona and Isaiah Papalii turning their backs on an All Black career?
Grass roots rugby is well in SOUTH AFRICA. The competition is tough and at a high level.
Certainly looks that way in all the rugby clips I see online! Especially the school system… I might look into how many participants there are, because it definitely seems like it’s booming.
@@uggy it's been this way for decades..
It's our Saturday mornings we watch the young ones play... Have a braai in the afternoon...
100% agree. I don't mind the All Blacks losing games. But what I don't like is the simple fact that we are simply doing the same blue print game plan that Hansen run it work for 10yrs great. But like you said the rest of the world has court up yet we have not evolved our game, and to be honest I don't believe Foster knows how.
I’m with you there!! I really hope we have good showings at the World Cup. We need it.
SA leaving super rugby has been the main reason. S A super rugby teams has lifted the the competitiveness of both NZ and AS. We will see a further decline unless the super rugby teams can get stronger opposition. The competitive edge is not all about running rugby, to long the tight five has been ignored in NZ and AS for a faster more eye catching game. Without a comparative tight five you cannot play a exiting brand of rugby. They have lost the balance. They should also look at how they market the game
Since South African super rugby teams move to Europe northern hemisphere teams will start improving you see it with Ireland and France they are on their way to be powerhouses in rugby along with Springboks the Wallabies you started to see their major decline after 2015 then 2022 the All Blacks decline has started as they aren’t number one anymore super rugby isn’t entertaining anymore NRL is the preferred code of Rugby in Oceania now.
It’s because the third official became more prominent which prevented the AB from robbing teams with their offside passes and illegal tackles
Ironically COVID was a blessing in disguise in terms of what competitive international rugby has become even at the expense of the All Blacks sadly. The rise of professional comps in the Americas (MLR, SRA) and mainland Europe beyond France (ESC) is very significant.
It just makes the world cup very interesting such as how the Drua and MP will impact Fiji, Samoa, and Tonga respectively, especially with the Flying Fijians having warmups against France and England before their first pool game against Wales.
Still quite funny that Fiji has been doing well with kiwi coaches and are now after Razor themselves but we won't find out until Monday next week despite surfer boy's All Blacks coaching aspirations (since Scotty likes to surf anyway. 😁)
😂😂 I’m going to be honest I love your comments. Feels like I’m learning something every time
Got to agree with most selections but shout out to Am and Mapimpi
Two incredible players!
This is going to age tough if the ABs win the WC lol
Haha in a more recent video I predicted them to win it 🤣 hindsight’s a b**** tho for sure!
The fact that the All Blacks had just come through the most successful era in its history also created unrealistic expectations from the fans. The greatest threat to continued All Blacks success is the significant drop in the quality of the rugby a level below. We have seen the Super competition gradually become weaker and weaker with many of SH best players leaving for the north. Unless there is a world class feeder tournament the rest of the world will just get better and better while NZ stagnates.
The NZRU needs to prevent young foreign born players like Fainga'anuku use NZ rugby as a stepping stone for their own career aspirations. There are only limited resources to put into young elite players and these need to be directed towards players who are willing to play the majority of their career in NZ. Foreigners will always have divided loyalty. The worlds changed and NZ rugby cannot afford that anymore.
Lastly as a fan Sky TV needs to take a long hard look at itself. The gap in quality between the NRL presentation and Super Rugby/All Black has widened significantly . Sky really needs to improve its game. Any broadcaster that would take Kirsty Stanaway to the RWC and leave Justin Marshall behind so he ends up working for the Saffers need their heads read.
South Africa still has thousands of youth players coming through every year. There is lots of wastage, off course, but it's looking good at schoolboy level at least.
And they are all (almost all) indigenous South Africans those schoolboys. This is a major difference over NZ, and to a lesser extent Australia.
The All Black era of dominance might be at end permanently, rugby in New Zealand is falling in popularity and more kids are taking up basketball. The junior game is dominated by 110kg 15 year old Pacifica kids, and many parents are reluctant to let their kids just get bulldozed every Saturday and risk getting injured or concussed.
Is cricket declining in NZ? I would greatly appreciate if you answered
Just a bump in the road…
Very true, if both NZ and Aus allowed all foreign players to play, we would definitely be sitting much prettier. Definitely would put the All Blacks way ahead of everyone (again)!
It's the foster circus, backed by the nzru 👍
Rugby union is a global game now, there's no secrets or mystique to the All Blacks anymore, however, they are, and always will be among the top 5 teams in the world, it's not the end of the world and they will find a way back to the top again
Soo SA maybe wining the next world cup, and the New Zealand will think they are still the best? They are greatly respected don't get me wrong, but don't think people are going to thing the same way about the ABs 20 years down the line if this continues.
Rugby is not that popular in NZ anymore - player base getting smaller.
Rugby League is more popular code that’s why I also notice a lot of Kiwis are watching NRL over Super Rugby.
*It was an alltime low ranking of 5th
Good pick up!
@@uggy i‘m a stats fella, that‘s my 2nd job (hobby)
@@karlosdeevs man I could use your brain when I’m making videos 😂
was 5th we got back to 3rd,
@@richardmatatahi4563 yep, but 5th is the record -regardless how long or short the experience
I got bored and re watched every Uggy video
Who knew Japan Rugby and money would a contributor to the downfall of New Zealand rugby 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rugby League is now the more dominant code than Rugby Union in New Zealand since South Africa withdrew from Super Rugby its not that entertaining anymore NRL is now more preferred to watch these days.
Hahaha crack up Northern Hemisphere wishful thinking The demise of the All Blacks, we once had our provincial teams were top tier in New Zealand, then club rugby feeding our top provincial sides without Super Rugby and for all of last century we were still the one's to beat. Do we need South Africa since New Zealand teams owned the Super Rugby Competition having won the Competition more times than anyone. I'd like to see our provincial teams regain the glory with an expanded 3 division NZ Championship with the Ranfurly Shield thrown in for good measure and give everyone a crack at glory. They had record crowds back in the days. Where our game started in our own backyard. Last year was our worst start to a season 5th our worst ranking but if you guys are hoping our game going belly up, think again, dismiss us, if you dare, and we'll remind you guy's why we are the All Blacks.
@Richard Matataha: You're missing one vital point and that NZ's geographic isolation.
In 20 years time non-essential long haul air travel will be extremely expensive. Isolated nations that depend totally on air travel will become more isolated.
@@hugostiglitz6914 it's expensive now and never been a vital point, but not because of our isolation a certain war in Ukraine started a global recession. Our long haul travel and fuel efficient modern fleet of Aircraft can handle long haul travel.
We are no longer in Covid lockdown after 2yrs which affected our Rugby in New Zealand. Then we get back into International Rugby and lose a test series to Ireland, a game against Argentina, & South Africa, and suddenly we're yesterday news according to some.
A reminder we won the Rugby Championship with comeback wins against both South Africa & Argentina 53-3, and Australia 2-0 and japan, Wales, Scotland, and what many in New Zealand called a disappointing Draw with England.
Many in the North only see the result of a 2-1 series lost that Ireland are now Superior, along with 1-1 draw with the Maori All Blacks. Forgetting our proud rugby history didn't start in 2022. But 1904. We own all playing records against All playing nations, and along with Ireland you all have a long way to catch up.
We are back into DHL Super Rugby Pacific and has returned unhindered and not missing a beat. Could be a few surprises in the All Blacks this year, coming up. Enjoying Australia, New Zealand, Fiji, and Moana Pacifika Rugby and I'm picking Fiji will surprise many at the 2023 RWC.
We're be ready, just worry about your own team.
Maybe people can’t afford to watch rugby on pay per view television
Lol they have been consistently number 2 and number 3 since the 2019 World Cup lol it’s funny to me that they think we have fallen yeah last year was the worse year in our history but we did manage to win the championship and managed to not lose a game at the autumn tour.. Ireland and France have been inconsistent since the 2019 World Cup.. I wouldn’t count out the All Blacks they will always be dangerous
SINCE ENVIOUS CHEATS WORLD WIDE HAVE HIJACKED THE GAME I WONT BOTHER EVER WATCHING IT AGAIN SOUTH AFRICA CANT PLAY HONEST RUGBY. MOST DISGRACEFUL SIDE IN THE WORLD.
get rid of the damn coach that would be a gud start
It’s because the third official became more prominent which prevented the AB from robbing teams with their offside passes and illegal tackles