I have been using Eneloop (Panasonic) batteries for years now. I have some in rotation that are 5+ years old. They are great for things like remotes as one of the best things about the whole line of Eneloop is they hold a charge better than other rechargeable batteries. So that Amazon basic battery will drain in the remote when you're not using it. The basic Eneloop (the white ones) are only double the price of the Amazon basic batteries, and the Pros are three times the cost. But I have white Eneloop batteries that are about 9 years old that we use in house hold deceives now and they still charge. I even use them in my large flashlights with the D cell adapter sleeve. As for packaging, I would like to see less. The plastic window is there for store shelves, I would be okay with a thin cardboard box with no real printing on it. We get far to wrapped up in unboxing things now. I buy a thing to use not to unbox. These are batteries not a Rolex or some over priced thing from LTT. Charging. I have gotten so many of the Panasonic chargers in kits over the years, I haven't tries a third party one. But what I do have is two that stay in my photo/video travel bag, and three more mounted on my charging table. I have power strips down one side of a table and then I have double stick taped to the table chargers for all my various camera batteries (I have like 8 different types), a USB bank with cables for things like head phones or built in batteries, and three chargers for my batteries. That has worked for me. When I travel I take what can go in my devices and a back up set as well. Normally I can do two days shooting with my audio gear and maybe more if i really need to push the batteries to full dead. But not often am I away from power for more than 3 or 4 days. I can normally plan on that and bring a few more batteries. Been a photographer/broadcaster in the military for years now and have had to build kits to work in the worst places. These batteries are 100% what I would suggest. When the Pro version came out I swapped to them. The Army bought some no name brand and those batteries suck. Over all a good little review, keep it up.
Dude! That's what I'm talking about, man! Thank you so much for sharing your experience with these and how you use em too. I love that. Everyone here appreciates it. Stay groovy out there!!!
I use eneloop batteries with that exact Powerowl charger. No problems whatsoever. I bought one big pack of eneloop batteries about 4 years ago and four 8 packs of Amazon basics batteries. Maybe 3 of those basics batteries haven’t died yet. They are teach. None of my eneloop batteries have died and have replaced everything in the household.
I have been using Eneloop batteries since they appeared on the market. A little more and 20 years. In the beginning, it was ordinary white Eneloop Sanyo AA and AAA 2000 and 800mAh. I still have the Sanyo NC-MQN04 charger that charged them in 16 hours, but I don't use it anymore. I use the Liitokala-Lii-600, because I have all the charging parameters on it, especially the capacity. After 19 years of use, and there were at least 300 charges, and their capacity is still satisfactory, 1750/670mAh. 10 years ago. I mostly use Eneloop pro 2450/900mAh which are great for photo flash, flashlights and radio control, mostly where a stronger current is needed in a short time. I had almost all such batteries from other manufacturers, but Eneloop pro proved to be the best. Why? Mostly because the characteristics of each individual battery are almost the same. Differences in internal resistance and capacity less than 0.5%, negligible. After 200 charges, it still has almost the same capacity. Charging 1000/500mAh and I didn't notice a drop in capacity because of it. It is important that they are charged in 2-3 hours. They are a little warm, but that doesn't bother them. Excellent rechargeable AA and AAA batteries, either Eneloop or Eneloop pro.
I don't think comparing the eneloop pros with the normal capacity amazon batteries is a fair comparison, since they're built a different way. the high capacity/pro versions have a higher self-discharge in exchange for a longer short term battery life, and the Normal ones are a balance between self-discharge and battery life. AmazonBasics does sell a High capacity battery. also I'm not sure if this is *still* the case but I hear that the high capacity amazon batteries are rebadged eneloop pros, and same for ikea high cap rechargables. also high capacity batteries have rated for less recharge cycles than the normal ones. I personally keep both on-hand depending on what suits the occasion better.
@@DolisterFilmsDo make sure it's a decent quality charger. Not all chargers are made equal and if tool batteries are anything to go off of, leaving batteries on a cheap charger for too long will make them go bad faster.
@@theredstormer8078I saw a video with about 1k videos by "Busy Man Dan" about cheap and old battery chargers a while ago. I definitely recommend giving it a watch.
@@theredstormer8078 Let me know, I bought the eneloop pro, AAA rechargeable, black pack of 4, with a capacity of min. 930 mAh, Ni-MH battery, which battery charger do you recommend? I have the EBL 6802 at home, are you saying it's not good?
I use Eneloops on film sets nearly every day for wireless transmitters. I’ve heard Laddas are similar, but can’t speak from experience besides using the Laddas and getting similar performance. Like you, I can’t take batteries breaking. There is no “all day” on a set, even on lithiums. The eneloops are more environmentally friendly and I always change batteries at lunch regardless. The biggest downside is how fragile they are. I have one device that damages the eneloop battery cover almost any time I put eneloops in there. This doesn’t happen with lithiums, but I suspect that’s because I’m only using the lithiums and disposing of them after one use. It was easier to stop using the gear that wrecked batteries than to keep replacing eneloops. The eneloops have charged in every charger I have, none of which are officially eneloop branded chargers.
having used a bunch of rechargable AA and AAA batteries in the (distant) past, i can say that other chargers should be 0 problems as long as they arent malfunctioning. some cheaper chargers can take a little longer to recharge, but if you get a charger that can charge all the batteries you might need during a shoot, you may as well just set and forget. plug them in at the end of the shooting day and they will be charged by the next morning. a nicer charger certainly can be useful to keep tho as a backup, even more so if it shows how much charge the battery took during the charge cycle, cos that way you can see if a cell is dying if its not charging up as much. tho given the eneloop's 500 recharge cycle rating and your 20 weddings a year, you may be entirely out of the industry before you need to replace them haha
The slower chargers are better for the battery in the long run, if at all possible, but I get that people don't wanna wait 10+ hours for their batteries to charge :p
Not used the Pro's, but I have Standard Eneloops, some of which go back about 15 years and still work. Am a big fan of Eneloops. There is a dumb rumour online that Amazon Basics are rebadged Eneloops, and it isn't correct, I tried some and had one die very quickly and they don't last long.
Look into EBL 2800mah AA, I bought a set of 20 about 8 years ago and I’m just now noticing SOME need replacing. Much better price to performance than eneloop and arguably just as reliable
According to UA-cam tests they don't last nearly as long as the stated numbers say which is the whole point in this video he wants batteries that can actually last the whole day I would not cheap out on those
I have a few dozen of those in my house. As for package, their primary "selling point" are "eco-friendly" so I don't think they will try to do those fancy premium package by default. But IIRC there are some sets that come with carrying case and such, they feel way more solid but you will be paying a premium tho. I think they are pretty good in terms of AA/AAA batteries, one pro are they never leaks, everyone with a seldom use remote knows the pain when batteries leaks. As for price I don't really think they will earn themselves back in their lifetime if you use them on low power devices like remotes, but my last point would justify the price. For higher power devices they def. worth it tho. BTW some voltage sensitive devices (such as some smart locks, or anything thing that screams when they think the batteries going to die) don't get along with these batteries, these batteries have a lower voltage (around 1.25 to 1.1V most of their charge, while alkaline stays 1.2+ for half of their charge and 1.1+ until almost ded). Don't get me wrong, these NiMH have more power than many alkaline batteries, they just stay at lower voltage longer.
@@DolisterFilms I understand that but, if you were sharing this with people for a review of the product then you shouldve provided more information and testing. For example something like project farms.
They do have a couple of problems, though. First is that most of them are designed with a completely flat voltage/state-of-charge curve so whatever device you're using has no warning if the battery is running low. Their second problem is that the design is trying to cram active switching components into an extremely small space. It still needs to step down that 3.7v to 1.5v, which means their power output can be absolutely noisy. They may be fine for powering a mouse or a flash, but not so much for audio equipment like wireless microphones.
Sorry dude, but your comment about the packaging is so superficial, really. Who gives a rats ass about the packaging, you will throw it away in less than five minutes - most of the best battery cells actually come in shit packaging since the companies are aware their customers know what and why they are buying these batteries. This review needs more work. It is totally based on your perception and minimal to no data. You should check some of the other review channels that base it on actual test data for good ideas. Good luck, I’d love to see your videos get better. I hope my comment is not discouraging, but rather pushing in a better direction. All the best! Oh I almost forgot: these are one of the better batteries on the market - so pretty decent choice 👌🏻
I appreciate the honesty, man. Being my first review, I've already learned a lot from what people have commented already. The comment on packaging is actually a great point. I'd imagine packaging only matters if you plan to resell the product at some point? You got me considering a lot more for a future review of anything, not just batteries. I've seen a lot of reviews but, I don't like the technical ones. I guess that came across in this video! This wasn't discouraging at all! I had to have a first review out there and I'd rather learn from it than have people sugar coat it.
only 20 wedding shoots a year? That's a surprisingly low number of shoots. I'd assume you'd have to be charging like 400-500 an hour to live off of that, if not more. Maybe I should buy a 3k camera and just shoot wedding photos too.
I have been using Eneloop (Panasonic) batteries for years now. I have some in rotation that are 5+ years old. They are great for things like remotes as one of the best things about the whole line of Eneloop is they hold a charge better than other rechargeable batteries. So that Amazon basic battery will drain in the remote when you're not using it. The basic Eneloop (the white ones) are only double the price of the Amazon basic batteries, and the Pros are three times the cost. But I have white Eneloop batteries that are about 9 years old that we use in house hold deceives now and they still charge. I even use them in my large flashlights with the D cell adapter sleeve.
As for packaging, I would like to see less. The plastic window is there for store shelves, I would be okay with a thin cardboard box with no real printing on it. We get far to wrapped up in unboxing things now. I buy a thing to use not to unbox. These are batteries not a Rolex or some over priced thing from LTT.
Charging. I have gotten so many of the Panasonic chargers in kits over the years, I haven't tries a third party one. But what I do have is two that stay in my photo/video travel bag, and three more mounted on my charging table. I have power strips down one side of a table and then I have double stick taped to the table chargers for all my various camera batteries (I have like 8 different types), a USB bank with cables for things like head phones or built in batteries, and three chargers for my batteries. That has worked for me. When I travel I take what can go in my devices and a back up set as well. Normally I can do two days shooting with my audio gear and maybe more if i really need to push the batteries to full dead. But not often am I away from power for more than 3 or 4 days. I can normally plan on that and bring a few more batteries.
Been a photographer/broadcaster in the military for years now and have had to build kits to work in the worst places. These batteries are 100% what I would suggest. When the Pro version came out I swapped to them. The Army bought some no name brand and those batteries suck.
Over all a good little review, keep it up.
Dude! That's what I'm talking about, man! Thank you so much for sharing your experience with these and how you use em too. I love that. Everyone here appreciates it. Stay groovy out there!!!
@@DolisterFilms I subscribed to see where you go.
I use eneloop batteries with that exact Powerowl charger. No problems whatsoever. I bought one big pack of eneloop batteries about 4 years ago and four 8 packs of Amazon basics batteries. Maybe 3 of those basics batteries haven’t died yet. They are teach. None of my eneloop batteries have died and have replaced everything in the household.
I don’t know anything about photography or batteries but i enjoyed watching !
Appreciate you! Thank you for watching!
I have been using Eneloop batteries since they appeared on the market. A little more and 20 years. In the beginning, it was ordinary white Eneloop Sanyo AA and AAA 2000 and 800mAh. I still have the Sanyo NC-MQN04 charger that charged them in 16 hours, but I don't use it anymore. I use the Liitokala-Lii-600, because I have all the charging parameters on it, especially the capacity. After 19 years of use, and there were at least 300 charges, and their capacity is still satisfactory, 1750/670mAh. 10 years ago. I mostly use Eneloop pro 2450/900mAh which are great for photo flash, flashlights and radio control, mostly where a stronger current is needed in a short time.
I had almost all such batteries from other manufacturers, but Eneloop pro proved to be the best. Why? Mostly because the characteristics of each individual battery are almost the same. Differences in internal resistance and capacity less than 0.5%, negligible. After 200 charges, it still has almost the same capacity. Charging 1000/500mAh and I didn't notice a drop in capacity because of it. It is important that they are charged in 2-3 hours. They are a little warm, but that doesn't bother them. Excellent rechargeable AA and AAA batteries, either Eneloop or Eneloop pro.
I don't think comparing the eneloop pros with the normal capacity amazon batteries is a fair comparison, since they're built a different way. the high capacity/pro versions have a higher self-discharge in exchange for a longer short term battery life, and the Normal ones are a balance between self-discharge and battery life. AmazonBasics does sell a High capacity battery.
also I'm not sure if this is *still* the case but I hear that the high capacity amazon batteries are rebadged eneloop pros, and same for ikea high cap rechargables.
also high capacity batteries have rated for less recharge cycles than the normal ones. I personally keep both on-hand depending on what suits the occasion better.
That's a lot of great info, thank you! I definitely need to do more research
Hey, you can easily charge them in an other Charger. Those are all the same!
Thank you so much! That saves me and everyone else a bunch of time. 🍻
@@DolisterFilmsDo make sure it's a decent quality charger. Not all chargers are made equal and if tool batteries are anything to go off of, leaving batteries on a cheap charger for too long will make them go bad faster.
@@theredstormer8078I saw a video with about 1k videos by "Busy Man Dan" about cheap and old battery chargers a while ago. I definitely recommend giving it a watch.
@@theredstormer8078 Let me know, I bought the eneloop pro, AAA rechargeable, black pack of 4, with a capacity of min. 930 mAh, Ni-MH battery, which battery charger do you recommend? I have the EBL 6802 at home, are you saying it's not good?
I use Eneloops on film sets nearly every day for wireless transmitters. I’ve heard Laddas are similar, but can’t speak from experience besides using the Laddas and getting similar performance. Like you, I can’t take batteries breaking. There is no “all day” on a set, even on lithiums. The eneloops are more environmentally friendly and I always change batteries at lunch regardless. The biggest downside is how fragile they are. I have one device that damages the eneloop battery cover almost any time I put eneloops in there. This doesn’t happen with lithiums, but I suspect that’s because I’m only using the lithiums and disposing of them after one use. It was easier to stop using the gear that wrecked batteries than to keep replacing eneloops. The eneloops have charged in every charger I have, none of which are officially eneloop branded chargers.
Yo, thank you so much for sharing your experience!!! I'm so paranoid, I'll probably be switching them mid day anyways like you! 🤣
having used a bunch of rechargable AA and AAA batteries in the (distant) past, i can say that other chargers should be 0 problems as long as they arent malfunctioning. some cheaper chargers can take a little longer to recharge, but if you get a charger that can charge all the batteries you might need during a shoot, you may as well just set and forget. plug them in at the end of the shooting day and they will be charged by the next morning. a nicer charger certainly can be useful to keep tho as a backup, even more so if it shows how much charge the battery took during the charge cycle, cos that way you can see if a cell is dying if its not charging up as much. tho given the eneloop's 500 recharge cycle rating and your 20 weddings a year, you may be entirely out of the industry before you need to replace them haha
AYE! We love to hear that!!! I should have looked up what the recharge cycle rating was on this, thank you so much for sharing!!!
The slower chargers are better for the battery in the long run, if at all possible, but I get that people don't wanna wait 10+ hours for their batteries to charge :p
Not used the Pro's, but I have Standard Eneloops, some of which go back about 15 years and still work. Am a big fan of Eneloops.
There is a dumb rumour online that Amazon Basics are rebadged Eneloops, and it isn't correct, I tried some and had one die very quickly and they don't last long.
Look into EBL 2800mah AA, I bought a set of 20 about 8 years ago and I’m just now noticing SOME need replacing. Much better price to performance than eneloop and arguably just as reliable
According to UA-cam tests they don't last nearly as long as the stated numbers say which is the whole point in this video he wants batteries that can actually last the whole day I would not cheap out on those
I have a few dozen of those in my house.
As for package, their primary "selling point" are "eco-friendly" so I don't think they will try to do those fancy premium package by default.
But IIRC there are some sets that come with carrying case and such, they feel way more solid but you will be paying a premium tho.
I think they are pretty good in terms of AA/AAA batteries, one pro are they never leaks, everyone with a seldom use remote knows the pain when batteries leaks.
As for price I don't really think they will earn themselves back in their lifetime if you use them on low power devices like remotes, but my last point would justify the price.
For higher power devices they def. worth it tho.
BTW some voltage sensitive devices (such as some smart locks, or anything thing that screams when they think the batteries going to die) don't get along with these batteries, these batteries have a lower voltage (around 1.25 to 1.1V most of their charge, while alkaline stays 1.2+ for half of their charge and 1.1+ until almost ded).
Don't get me wrong, these NiMH have more power than many alkaline batteries, they just stay at lower voltage longer.
Uses it for xbox controller, its good replacement for non rechargable battery. Im already saving a lot of money
You really didn't do any tests... This should've just been a test to do for your business.
That's exactly what it was!
@@DolisterFilms I understand that but, if you were sharing this with people for a review of the product then you shouldve provided more information and testing. For example something like project farms.
Rechargable lithium AA batteries or nothing. NiMH is garbage comparatively
They do have a couple of problems, though.
First is that most of them are designed with a completely flat voltage/state-of-charge curve so whatever device you're using has no warning if the battery is running low.
Their second problem is that the design is trying to cram active switching components into an extremely small space. It still needs to step down that 3.7v to 1.5v, which means their power output can be absolutely noisy. They may be fine for powering a mouse or a flash, but not so much for audio equipment like wireless microphones.
Sorry dude, but your comment about the packaging is so superficial, really. Who gives a rats ass about the packaging, you will throw it away in less than five minutes - most of the best battery cells actually come in shit packaging since the companies are aware their customers know what and why they are buying these batteries.
This review needs more work. It is totally based on your perception and minimal to no data. You should check some of the other review channels that base it on actual test data for good ideas.
Good luck, I’d love to see your videos get better. I hope my comment is not discouraging, but rather pushing in a better direction.
All the best!
Oh I almost forgot: these are one of the better batteries on the market - so pretty decent choice 👌🏻
I appreciate the honesty, man. Being my first review, I've already learned a lot from what people have commented already.
The comment on packaging is actually a great point. I'd imagine packaging only matters if you plan to resell the product at some point?
You got me considering a lot more for a future review of anything, not just batteries. I've seen a lot of reviews but, I don't like the technical ones. I guess that came across in this video!
This wasn't discouraging at all! I had to have a first review out there and I'd rather learn from it than have people sugar coat it.
And you got a sub from this answer sir, love to see that way of thinking! Waiting for your future videos! Wish you success ;)
only 20 wedding shoots a year? That's a surprisingly low number of shoots. I'd assume you'd have to be charging like 400-500 an hour to live off of that, if not more. Maybe I should buy a 3k camera and just shoot wedding photos too.
If these cameras weren't so expensive I'd suggest modifying them to have external batteries
IKEA whitelabel these batteries as Ladda, they are exactly the same batteries from exactly the same factory at ⅓ the cost